The Best and Worst of Zelda Art Styles with PeanutButterGamer

[@Samiho]

scott posting his 10th unexpected peak collab this year

[@UnlikeRelic]

Did two with beatem ups I think you mean 8 peak collabs

[@JulianR2JG]

Scott NEEDS to do a collab with Peter Knetter. I would click the notification the femtosecond the video would drop and watch the whole thing.

[@Poever]

Think he could celebrate updating his MAIN channel more often?

[@Samiho]

@@UnlikeRelic lowkey i just picked a random number that felt right

[@dominicyeomans8107]

*5th, I counted. Since you were so specific.

[@sirrocketcafe1138]

Dude, this collab is like watching my favorite childhood KZbinr work with my favorite current KZbinr

[@imhaddanitattaxx4172]

Holy shit it's perfect

[@Blazio]

No way I just made this exact comment and scroll down and someone else had the exact same thought

[@CoolPlayersVic]

My thoughts exactly, I had made this comment too!

[@themanwiththerubyshadow]

I was gonna say the same thing man! PBG and Scott the Woz are two legends in the video game review space and it's a good day when they release a video together!

[@evdestroy5304]

Same

[@Nerdtendo6366]

If the James Rolfe videos are Scott talking to his dad, than this is Scott talking to his older brother

[@WaterMeLoan64]

real

[@beanricorules]

WAIT HUH? I DIDNT EVEN KNOW HE SPOKE TO JAMES 😭😭

[@sallytims6894]

Remember when Scott went on to Cinemassacre podcast and James didn't even bother showing up? Good times.

[@williammoore1030]

@@sallytims6894eh he does have a wife and kids, sometimes stuff happens that is more important than talking about video games. Or he maybe never planned on being there, no idea.

[@sallytims6894]

@@williammoore1030 The whole wife and kids argument is weak considering the vast majority of parents work full-time jobs.

[@MatthewSmart]

Honestly, this collab is kind of surreal because it does feel like we're crossing generations in a way. I mean, Scott's been doing Scott The Woz for as long now as Austin was making PeanutButterGamer then. It's crazy to think about how long Peebs has been doing this, and I can respect it.

[@kahaeIta]

As someone who has been watching PBG since before Scott started, I always saw Scott in a 'new kid on the block' way. It’s weird to think he’s just as established and experienced now.

[@ElOcty]

Oh man listening to Zelda talk from PBG in November makes me all warm and fuzzy

[@dominicyeomans8107]

*December

[@thescoobmaster]

​@@dominicyeomans8107bro is living in the future

[@richtersundeen6105]

As someone old enough to remember people saying Windwaker ruined Zelda the turnaround on it is one of the most amazing and positive things.

[@leighdappa]

Yep! I was 22 in 2003 when it came out and admit even I was a but let down by the cel-shaded change but as I read more about it via paper magazines I'd read in WH Smiths, I still decided to get it at Launch and loved it. Its End Credits Theme Song is one of the best 'End Credits' pieces of music I've ever heard.

[@Jlaps941]

This is how I feel about Pokemon Black and White

[@mg6945]

Wind Waker is essentially the GameCube as a game I feel like. A lot of people went “what is this stupid thing” at first, it sold underwhelmingly as a result, and then not too long after the fact was when people went “oh actually this was amazing, sorry I said anything bad”

[@kingzombie951]

Still not sure if I like it but I'm not like I was when I was younger and not even give it a shot because of art style. I have a controversial opion but the ds Zelda games suck. The touch controls just suck in my opinion. I have nothing against touch controls just some games don't work for that type of gameplay. If you like those games im glad you could find enjoyment out of them cause I coundt.

[@richtersundeen6105]

@@kingzombie951 I agree that Phantom Hourglass is the single worst main Zelda. Spirit Tracks was a lot better.

[@LunaticTheGame]

An honestly insane visual seeing my favorite Nintendo KZbin of today casually chatting with my favorite Nintendo KZbinr from when I was a kid.

[@seanfinley2069]

yeah I loved Scott's Stash growing up

[@dominicyeomans8107]

You are 29

[@BugsyFoga]

Scott and peanut butter gamer talking about Zelda, now that’s truly legendary.

[@TonyCakaScarface]

PBG's window timelapse is like those random online chats you'll have just shooting the shit with your pals, and then you realize 5 hours have passed.

[@JoeOG]

9:10 The only logical explanation for Link's pink hair color is that it was a visual accessibility decision, not a stylistic choice or due to a color pallette limitation. The pink gives increased contrast with all the green and brown colors on link and in the environment. It makes Link a lot more visible on the display technology of the time, which for many were low-fi tube TVs with fuzzy, bleeding colors. On modern displays, it is not necessary, but when you play A Link to the Past on a crappy old CRT, it makes a lot of sense.

[@NaldoNidoking]

So interesting to hear different opinions about BotW/TotK's art style. I absolutely love the way those games look and would be more than happy for that to remain the art style if they had to stick to only one. That said, I like that each generation sort of does its own thing.

[@KairuHakubi]

I love most of it but I have two problems with it: tiny stubby legs, and ugly general NPC faces. very much like Twilight Princess. Link is also noticeably out of scale with other characters

[@Alfonso88279]

"Ocarina of time, classic game but nothing really stands out visually". You should have been there. Like I was, almost 30 years ago. It looked absolutely incredible, such a revolution. It was so dark, so edgey, so magical. I was part of a group of kids that was fascinated by that game. Maybe I was 9, can't remember. We had never seen anything like that. And it took us many months, in some cases years, to actually beat the game. Because it was terrifying for us. We never admitted it until we got older of course XD Ocarina was visually extremely striking at the time. Not just for the power of the graphics, but for the choices in the design.

[@dekugh64]

For me it was cool and badass yet whimsical, the perfect tone for Zelda

[@SuperZergMan]

It's like Seinfeld; it seems generic because every little bit of it got copied a dozen times over.

[@syaieya]

What I think time has really obscured for OoTs in game art direction is until this point no game had near this sense of depth and scale. We literally had never seen a game that could handle something so expansive.

[@girlwithoutafairy]

A lot of the "it doesn't look as good as when i was a kid" comes from the fact that CRTs genuinely handled the video signals from these consoles better than modern TVs

[@williamlaroux8566]

In particular, games would sometimes use visual tricks that utilized the slight blurriness of CRTs to achieve aesthetics. You can google image "Sonic waterfall crt" as an example of one of these sort of tricks

[@vianabdullah2837]

I think the best thing about Zelda is also the reason why every game is divisive to certain fans. Each game takes big creative swings either in gameplay or artistic direction, the controversy behind Toon Link being the most famous one. But that's also what makes it such a unique franchise, in true Nintendo fashion it keeps you on your toes for the next potential surprise. The artsyles of The Minish Cap, Majora's Mask 3D and Skyward Sword are personal favourites.

[@jameskozy7254]

I just played minish cap this year. It's such a beautiful game.

[@Sam_T2000]

and the big creative swing of _TOTK_ was not taking any creative swings 😑

[@hass556]

@@Sam_T2000yes because ultrahand and fuse are not creative at all. Being able to create anything is not creative 🙄

[@Sam_T2000]

@@hass556 - correct… they’re just extensions of the gameplay mechanics in _BOTW._

[@Verchiel_]

@@Sam_T2000 you could literally argue the same for majoras mask

[@Evilgrapez]

PBG and Scott The Woz talking about Zelda. This is good to see.

[@sup3414]

Duh

[@DoctorBC]

Nothing like celebrating Zaglo Month with Nutter Butter Gaming and Scatt the What.

[@panixing]

this collab is putting tears in my eyes.

[@NOISEEROOM]

I’m so glad people are finally appreciating and acknowledging windwaker that game was haaatedddd and I loved it so I’m glad people are showing it more love ❤️

[@dragonslayer060]

HOLY CRAP. This is an insane collab. Love this. Glad you two were able to make this together.

[@keganmemestar4465]

I love how Scott's Stash videos like these can almost come off as a podcast.

[@KARINA-joy]

I’m so excited to watch this!

[@Henry7Madsen]

In my opinion the ocarina of time 3d/majoras mask 3d art style is king, especially run through an emulator and upscaled

[@aoBubs]

I was really blown away how good OoT 3D looked on an emulator

[@worthless_opinion]

Yeah I totally disagreed with their take on this video.

[@kingzombie951]

@@aoBubs also looks really good 3d one of only games i will play with 3d on

[@myriadmediamusings]

I can’t even imagine how online reactions to wind waker woulda been if it came out in the current internet.

[@azimulhoque1497]

Probably still a bit annoyed haha

[@Jackie_burnp]

We saw it happen kinda with Link's Awakening remake People are not receptive to big changes

[@worthless_opinion]

A direct sequel to Wind Waker on Switch 2 would be just incredible.

[@dominicyeomans8107]

​@@Jackie_burnpBut that wasnt an original game. So i feel like your point is moot.

[@Jackie_burnp]

@@dominicyeomans8107 ...? I genuinely do not get your point, we're talking about artstyles Last I checked Link's Awakening remake had a very unique artstyle and some people did not like it initially, just like Wind Waker

[@scottshanbom]

6:08 I agree with Scott, I never realized that was supposed to be his sword, I thought it was his arm

[@BigTWilsonD1]

Man, I remember watching PBG back during the early days of Normal Boots. What an awesome collab!

[@theayre2674]

Great collab!!!!

[@CoolPlayersVic]

Pardon my language but HOLY SHIT- My favorite KZbinr of my childhood and my favorite KZbin of today in the same video???

[@dominicyeomans8107]

You are 24

[@pinguino5879]

the influence of toei doga films on wind waker is unmistakable. not only does toon link resemble yasuji mori’s style (e.g., susanoo’s short-legged proportions, cat-like eyes, and bold eyebrows), but the pirate-themed elements feel like they draw from animal treasure island. additionally, the twisted architecture of the forsaken fortress, with its narrow ledges and gaps to sidle across, almost certainly takes cues from lucifer’s castle in toei’s puss n’ boots. it’s also interesting to look at the three-dimensional maquettes toei used for their movies and haniwa clay figures.

[@cocoasprinklez]

i personally think it would be so cool if zelda 1 got a visual overhaul similar to a boy and his blob's wii remake, just that distinct hand drawn feel would work so well if they used the concept art for reference

[@Dan_Roland]

As delightful as it is to hear Scott and Peebs discuss this topic, I did not appreciate the OoT concept art slander 😤

[@zane-jx2iy]

Tbh I was like these guys are tripping hard

[@Dan_Roland]

@ right like it’s a detailed ‘90s anime aesthetic what’s not to love

[@Joskilani]

Absolutely insane collab. PBG was my favorite KZbinr as a kid and he still ranks insanely high on my list, this video is an absolute treat

[@nojons_]

This absolutely made my night. Peebs was one of my first youtube subscriptions back in 2012 or so

[@dominicyeomans8107]

You are 27

[@100twistthethird7]

YES, PBG & SCOTT THE WOZ COLLAB!!!!

[@carjohnson9729]

Please do something like this again. I would love to see more Scott, the Woz peanut butter gamer crossover.

[@SaintMecha]

They skipped talking about The Minish Cap in-game art style. Sad

[@multikody6481]

Happy Zelda Month! So awesome to see two of my favorite youtubers collabing!

[@Silent_Lucidity]

Why is nobody talking about the biggest news here? PEEBS GOT A HAIRCUT! 😲

[@VictorADino]

Ocarina of Time 3D, Majora’s Mask 3D, Wind Waker and Twilight Princess look like the promotional material, it’s actually insane. Link’s Awakening and Echoes of Wisdom are so adorable. The Minish Cap peaked pixel art. I want a brand new 2D Zelda game that looks like either the GBA or Cadence of Hyrule. I love the in-game look of Skyward Sword and BotW/TotK. It’s exciting to see what the next 3D Zelda game decides to embrace. Hyrule Warriors fulfills an exaggerated fantasy setting that I’ve wanted Zelda to look like in the Early HD Era. It’s a charm to look at (except when looking at the enemies). What a wonderful series in general.

[@Santendo]

Can’t believe my favorite video game KZbinr of today and my favorite video game KZbinr of my youth just posted a video about my favorite video game series

[@Dairunt1]

ADVENTURE! YEEEAAAAAH!

[@dominicyeomans8107]

You are 27

[@stefjonkers]

​@@dominicyeomans8107why do you just say people's age 😭

[@Tobi-hq3xe]

I think doing this kind of video with the Kirby series would be even more fun, since Kirby really tried A LOT of different styles.

[@pokemonduck]

Minish Cap uses the toon artstyle so well too, the characters, enemies and bosses all have so much personality and the pixel art is just beautiful and colorful, by far my favorite 2D Zelda artstyle :D

[@LupinticDream]

Kinda disappointed they didn't really talk about the 3DS remakes of Ocarina & Majora's Mask

[@gideonnaziri2453]

Yeah I feel like they look like how the concept art for the originals looked. Definitely a big enough change to warrant talking about when they did all the other remakes

[@Aaronatorr]

My first ever youtuber I've watched and loved since my childhood now collabing with my.....modernhood favorite youtuber makes me so happy you have no idea

[@dominicyeomans8107]

You are 27

[@ljhawesstudios]

Finally, pbg and his secret twin finally do Zelda month together. Love seeing family come together for the holidays

[@batmanbud2]

Waker/Hourglass/Spirit Tracks, Skyward, and LA2019/Echoes are my top 3.

[@cathyrayTV]

the artists and animators for the CDI titles must be actual comedic geniuses because i cant imagine how they could accidentally make a game where every frame of animation is a meme

[@legendlalo]

Unofficial Zelda month video, gotta love it

[@MarioThe260]

HOLY SHIT. The Q4 Late Sleeper Collab. I didn’t know I needed this. Always good to see PBG talk about Zelda

[@TFish115]

What a fucking collab dude. 2 goats in a convo about goated games.

[@Blazio]

My favourite childhood youtuber and my favourite current youtuber wow

[@inglorii]

Skyward Sword is the clear winner for me, it just looks like a Cézanne painting. The birds have so much character. The dungeons are very distinct from each other and truly look like ancient temples.

[@terdragontra8900]

Except for like, the fire dungeon and the other fire dungeon. I mean they don’t look exactly identical, but still. But the sandship and ancient cistern make up for it in coolness.

[@larrytheblobfish.p2507]

Never thought i’d see these two together, and im loving it

[@r.a.l_junk]

PBG was the guy who got me into Nintendo and gaming as a whole. Seeing him again is weirdly nostalgic now.

[@PrixtoTNT]

I like how you can see how it's getting darker outside throughout the conversation because of PBG's window

[@Torinna_]

This collab is a dream come true for me because PBG was the first major creator I ever watched while Scott is my current favourite

[@milliondollarmistake]

I'm surprised neither Scott nor Peebs mentioned the Satellaview Zelda 1 remakes. It's not just a remake but a full reimagining called "BS Zelda". Looks pretty good too, shame that it's never been properly released since. nvm lol

[@maccamachine]

Another great video I love these

[@BigTasty5599]

Loved this collab!

[@MikalEdmunds]

13:40 lolol my brother and I rewatched this video all the time when we were in middle school, that was such a nice throwback

[@AniGamerNX]

Two awesome Gaming Channels collabing!! Awesome!!

[@cosmicgem7775]

Two of my favorite KZbinrs of all time

[@Alfonso88279]

The tech demo for the game cube zelda was incredible back in the day. We were all in awe. We talked about it for months. It was the next logical evolution after Ocarina of time. Majora's mask had a mixed reception back in the day.

[@baiylee7873]

This might be the best of Scott's collabs. The others are great, but PBG and Scott have great chemistry and bounce off each other so well here.

[@Li0nMa5K]

Peeeeebs! I miss you man! Damn, this was just a beautiful hangout with these two peeps! :D

[@Tylerm05]

Two legends doing collab on Zelda games is a personal dream come true for me

[@FunkyFella7]

Yesss!! Much needed collabbbb!

[@crabbuckets7506]

Pleasure to see you both here as I'm subbed to both. Peebs is the best. Edit. Twilight Princess is definitely my favorite. The story pulls at the heart strings. The music is the best. All round it took everything from all our favourite games and made it better. Maybe the graphics aren't what people like but it's perfect to me.

[@Theperson139]

This is the collab we all needed

[@ColeFam]

Sad you didnt talk about the Zelda Valiant comics from way back in the day. To me, those are like the cartoon artstyle, but much better. This was a fun one!

[@MegaRay220]

I think the best looking Zelda video ever is the original Breath of the Wild reveal with link in the field running away from the guardian. To this day it looks absolutely breathtaking

[@georgeislamee]

let's goooo, this topic/collab is gold

[@hajilee4539]

OH MY GOD IT'S PBG. I've literally wanted this collab for years!

[@timothyjohnson5699]

I was a big fan of PeanutButterGamer as a kid, and I'm a big fan of Scott the Woz as an adult. This is nice.

[@tomvanderlinden5564]

Great video! Interesting discussion... especially with a long running series like Zelda. I wholly agree with your takes that a Zelda game or an animated series based upon the concept art / the ingame manual art of the first three Zeldas would be sick. I love the early, slightly darker, more earthy "Ghibli"-esque style of the artwork. This style diminished with the release of Ocarina of Time, and it is a shame that they never really explored that more. A game based upon the concept art by Katsuya Terada, I mean, sign me up. I guess it's because of my age (38) and my nostalgic bias, but the only thing I really didn't gel with in the video was the somewhat overtly dismissive attitude towards the older games in the series (everything up until Wind Waker). I get it, the technology / fidelity wasn't there, etc. but I think that the combination of the manual booklet art and the ingame graphics was a potent catalyst for the imagination. We often had to fill in the blanks. But that is somewhat abstract and vague, not the best for a discussion video like this. Next tot that, I am somewhat surprised with the mature take towards Ocarina (the golden goose of the series, not to be criticised!). The in-game graphics have definitely not aged well... I kinda liked the art style of the concept art, but it's definitely not A Link to the Past booklet quality (at least to me). The anime aesthetic for Zelda never sat right with me (even in Breath and Tears). Wind Waker is a peculiar one to me. Really liked Ocarina, but it was never my fav. So, the new cartoony direction never really rubbed me the wrong way. For that world, story and gameplay it was amazing. Unfortunately, and you address it in this video as well, the style got really overused in subsequent mobile and handheld titles. Due to this fact this art style, unfortunately, got a bit of a negative connotation in my mind. But, I agree that it has aged very well. But so did A Link the Past. And that game looks amazing for a very early SNES game. Crisp, vibrant, timeless ( I recently replayed it). Keep it up!

[@doritochip2760]

we could talk about the same old nintendo games forever and i will still always love it and find it as a sort of therapy tbh.

[@kxjab]

My childhood self is really happy right now. Man what a collab!

[@Trianull]

Four Swords Adventures looks like nothing special on the surface, but the choice to use 2D sprites for the whole game allowed them to create some crazy VFX. The light sparkling at the end of charged arrows, the shockwave effect as you use the hammer, the heatwaves in the Tower of Flame, and more. It’s really cool stuff.

[@jinsden]

Two of my favorite youtubers in Zelda month!!!!!

[@Mikefenn225]

This collab is just perfect. Scott is honoring Zelda month with creator of Zelda month

[@pokemonduck]

The crossover I never thought I wanted so badly :D

[@blubba818]

Probably my favorite two gaming KZbinrs here.

[@BensyBens]

Happy Zelda Month everyone

[@yeahsureb]

Legendary Collab

[@Mystterous]

Peanut butter gamer AND Scott the Woz?! 10/10 collab

[@JacubWhite38]

I didn't know I wanted this collab but now that it exists I can't even think

[@vahsuh5963]

I fucking LOVE peanutbuttergamer

[@caleb5780]

Oh my god, he cut his hair. I don't know what to believe anymore.

[@KingsBard]

The Hyrule Warriors artstyle would be perfect for any crossover game with other anime-esque game series, like Fire Emblem or Kid Icarus

[@steveo1707]

I wish gamers a few years younger than me could have had the opportunity to feel the jump from A Link to the Past to Ocarina of Time at release. I'm sure this is largely just bias, and everyone has their own version of this feeling of the world opening up, but omg was it an intense feeling. I still vividly remember the first time I played Ocarina of Time. It was almost like waking up in the actual world of your favorite book. The jump in immersion, and the several times that the world opened up beyond what I had even thought possible. The first steps into Hyrule Field and feeling like I was in a giant world. The time jump from child Link to adult Link. While Breath of the Wild had a much larger jump in freedom and scope of thr exploration world, Ocarina of Time at the time of release was such a huge jump from previous experiences, it was a feeling that I've never experienced on that level since.

[@pelotosho1049]

This collabs keep getting better and better 😎

[@Fat_Panda_Gaming]

Scott the Woz and PBG collab? God tier collab

[@TylerLansford]

Been waiting for this one

[@ablur5129]

Two Goats conversing about a goated franchise. Love to see it.

[@SeveredLegs]

It's interesting hearing these guys talk about Zelda 2. It's obvious that the ability to rewind or use save states clearly affected Scott's enjoyment of the game. It's so tempting with old NES games to use modern ways of skipping over the combat and getting good. If they don't like it, no big deal, but it's a very very well designed game. It's not nearly as hard as people say, you just have to practice. But the reward comes from the practice and the execution over time.

[@leighdappa]

❗️My Timestamps: 15:08 She would later use a wand in 'Echoes Of Wisdom'. 33:16 The fall-to-sleep/ASMR Videos I watch are the chiropractic back cracking ones. 52:25 Is that painting from 'Streets Of Rage 1'?

[@josierosie21]

The link awakening/. Echoes of wisdom remake art style is supposed to look like a miniature garden. What the zeldas always meant to look like in miyamoto’s words, miniature gardens is a japanese hobby like one of those sand garden.

[@josierosie21]

Its a nod to the original inspiration for zelda!

[@hajilee4539]

Can Scott start a new Normal Boots Madness type show with all these KZbinrs he's been collabing with? I would literally ascend...

[@HPRshredder]

Best: CDI Zeldas Worst: Everything else

[@BintiBeez]

I did a double take when I saw the image for this video. I couldn't believe what I was seeing - was hoping for Austin to do one of these collab videos with Scott and it's happening!

[@Flintstoned223]

W colab. been wishing for it for a bit