The BEST Class 3 cargo e-bike (according to science)

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Car Free in Tennessee

Car Free in Tennessee

Күн бұрын

I review 7 different class 3 cargo e-bikes. Come see how these bikes compare in range, capacity, and power.
Ranger KBO
Lectric XPedition
Specialized Globe Haul St
Tern Quick Haul
Tern HSD
Momentum PackYak
Aventon Abound
#ebike #cargobike #lectric #aventon #tern #specialized #benno

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@andrewstephens2687
@andrewstephens2687 9 ай бұрын
Came for bikes. Stayed for goats. what's up from alabama
@CarFreeinTennessee
@CarFreeinTennessee 9 ай бұрын
You are my exact target audience, welcome aboard 🤝
@williambarney2874
@williambarney2874 9 ай бұрын
Those goats are funny and look very happy! Nice video 😎
@LightsOnMultiMediaMindArts
@LightsOnMultiMediaMindArts 5 ай бұрын
I bought the Globe Haul ST just before Fathers' Day this past year and I couldn't be more pleased. I've put nearly 900 miles on it carrying groceries and doing other everyday around town chores. The carrying capacity of the rear rack was misreported and has recently been updated to 132 pounds. The overall carrying capacity is 419 pounds (the weight of the rider and the cargo but not the weight of the bike). I now have a set of four "cool cave" panniers, a wire rack on the back and a rack on the front. It's a short tail so carrying a bail on hay on the rear isn't practical as you pointed out, but the few times I've need to carry something bigger I've pulled a Burley 2-wheeled cart. The short tail is better for me because I often have to lock it up or store it in tight quarters. Specialized now makes a Long Tail version, too. The warranty on ebikes especially is an important quality. I bought an ebike before the Globe Haul and the motor failed one month after the one year warranty expired. I lost an entire summer riding it trying to get the manufacturer to either fix it or replace it. Which they eventually did after I kept nagging them. The Globe Haul has a 2 year electrical warranty and a lifetime warranty on the frame. Tern makes great bikes. I'll be interested to see how yours works out for you.
@travisrose
@travisrose 10 ай бұрын
Loved this video, you earned at least one sub 😅 I tend to use a similar weighting score in my decision for an eBike. Congrats on your decision to purchase the Tern! Really looking forward to seeing your long-term review. 🙌
@versus023
@versus023 2 ай бұрын
the part where the coat is rear ending the other one in repetition is very funny! I Will resume my viewing of the reveiws
@aaronsunderland8838
@aaronsunderland8838 10 ай бұрын
Yay 40th subscriber Send this man all the cargo e bikes now! :)
@marksadventures3889
@marksadventures3889 9 ай бұрын
Here's one more subscriber. I'm going class 1 but in the UK no accelerator allowed and 15.5mph - max motor 250 watts ( apparently there's a 350 watt version that looks very much like the 250 people get). Self build due to price, mostly for camping, wildcamping.
@matooleyobrien2918
@matooleyobrien2918 4 ай бұрын
The Xpedition is actually the Best ..It's not as Refined as a Tern bike ..BUT It's More powerful, Higher Load Capacity,Frame was DIN Tested and Actually withstood about 600 Pounds with frames being stressed Literally Over thousands & thousands of times by machinery.. the double Articulating folding handlebars are excellent and make transporting inside a SUV easy.. quick release pedals .. I personally have had OVER 450 pounds on this bike numerous times and it Handled it with Zero issues and was easy to manage maneuvering and braking was surprisingly good even with all the extra weight I'm a good 300 pounds and with both Pannier side bags loaded resting on floorboards and some stuff on rear rack the Xpedition has surprised me with it's Quality and ruggedness. The dual batteries will average me throttle only about 50 miles .. however most of that is on paved/crushed limestone bike path with few hills traveling to parents..I only have 1 20% 1/4 mile hill to go up on this route..
@CatMeowMeow
@CatMeowMeow 9 күн бұрын
Thank you for this overview! I've been stuck between the quick haul and globe as well. I think I'm going with the quick haul over longevity and repairability concerns. I like that ebikes with a Bosch system have such a seemingly large and stable market for electric part replacements whereas if the electrical system were to fail on the globe I don't know how I'd start to fix it.
@nospamallowed4890
@nospamallowed4890 8 ай бұрын
Appreciated the truly independent review and subscribed only to help you out, even though these models didn't work for me, mainly because the traditional bycicle seats tend to be painful for me (the recumbent style of seat fits me better). My use case is also not as extreme as yours and would be mostly for "retiree" exercise and nearby grocery shopping, all over mostly flat terrain. So far I have not seen a single bycicle, trike or quadricycle (powered or unpowered) that fits the need and justifies the price they sell for. I might just have to separate excercise to a bike and continue doing grocery shopping by car. Or... build my own. Good job on the video and keep going.
@ex0stasis72
@ex0stasis72 9 ай бұрын
Enjoyed your video! I'd recommend looking into whether the ebike has a hub motor or a mod drive motor. Mid drives are better for mountain bikes for going up constant steep hills, but hub motors are more efficient, simpler, more durable, and cheaper. One of the classic benefits that is no longer exclusive to mid drive motors is having a torque sensor instead of a cadence sensor. But now, I've been finding hub motor ebikes with a torque sensor combining, in my opinion, the best of both worlds.
@jeffreyastjohn
@jeffreyastjohn Ай бұрын
The Globe Haul’s rear rack is good for 132 lbs (60kg). They admit on their site that it’s mis-labeled as 40kg. With a lot of these bikes they’ll list pretty high cargo capacity but when you take into account rider + bike + accessories you’ll never be able to hit the max weight of the rack before you’re over the GVWR.
@stephenstetler3324
@stephenstetler3324 9 ай бұрын
... and on the high high high side, there's R&M Multitinker! Great stuff, I enjoy riding 28 mph on the roads during the day, but at night no way. The more I ride in the evening the less Class 3 matters for safety. Thanks for the information!
@jcolt84
@jcolt84 5 ай бұрын
It's wired freedom or nothing right now for me. Yes, I want something that I can take my daughter with me as a passenger, and pick up little odds and ends that I need around the house, but I think I'm going to get tired of an e-bike that doesn't go over 25 mph pretty soon after buying it. If I did get one I mean. I just don't want buyers remorse!
@markb6295
@markb6295 10 ай бұрын
18th sub You have to remember me when you hit 1 million
@WildfireWhiz-bangs
@WildfireWhiz-bangs 2 ай бұрын
I’m not certain if it was out when you posted this, so possibly thats why you used the Haul ST instead of the LT, but I’m curious if the Haul LT wouldnt have won this comparison?
@alejandrodelavega1063
@alejandrodelavega1063 9 ай бұрын
Awesome video, and I think you made a good choice. I recently bought the Abound, but I think for your requirements (Class 3), the Tern makes a ton of sense. Plus, give your commitment to being car free, it makes sense to buy something high quality since its a true car replacement.
@JohnstonRobare
@JohnstonRobare 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great video! A couple notes: as someone else pointed out, after your video was released, Specialized re-rated the rear rack on the Globe to 60kg/132lbs, so that's a nice touch. Also, Tern does rate the Quick Haul with a GVWR (bike+rider+cargo) of 150kg/330lbs, but the 190kg/419lbs rating for the Specialized is just its carrying capacity (rider+cargo). Its true GVWR must be ~227kg/500lbs. In other words, if you could somehow strap it down, the Specialized could carry an entire max capacity Tern and still have 90lbs left over for a small rider 😅 No wonder its so heavy!
@rich3317
@rich3317 9 ай бұрын
I’m just about finished with building my own cargo bike. I’m a power junkie. It’s built to carry easy 3 adults. Hub motor is a qs 205 5T / 300nm. 18” rim. Battery is huge. 96v 5.3 kWh 20s 12p Rear brakes are Motorcycel brakes. 32fox front. I will be selling these as custom built per order in the near future. Good luck with your KZbin channel. I in joyed it.
@stevenwalker232
@stevenwalker232 8 ай бұрын
Great job!
@user-us3xp2tg1d
@user-us3xp2tg1d 5 ай бұрын
Check out the FERLA LAGOM. It is a great long tail cargo bike. Not a well-known company.
@colleenwright-kakkar6384
@colleenwright-kakkar6384 10 ай бұрын
I live in East Tennessee and am trying to change my life style by riding more and driving less. I have an lectric midrive and love it. I am adding different Accessories so that I can do my weekly shopping.
@CarFreeinTennessee
@CarFreeinTennessee 9 ай бұрын
That awesome. I'd love to hear about your experience -- let me know if you'd be interested in chatting sometime (on or off camera)
@colleenwright-kakkar6384
@colleenwright-kakkar6384 9 ай бұрын
Thank you. Let me get some time under my belt. And I will let you know how it is going.
@thrallingFRglory
@thrallingFRglory 9 ай бұрын
Would the quick haul d8 be able to comfortably carry an adult of around 55kilos? I’m considering it as a primary means of transport for carting me and my wife around the city. HSD and GSD aren’t options unfortunately
@butchie2752
@butchie2752 Ай бұрын
The abound is currently $1800 and includes extras including an extra battery. I want to do cargo in an emergency. Otherwise just tooling around. Speed over 20 is not important to me. I have a bigger faster bike that I’m probably keeping. I think it’s a pretty good deal right now. What do you think? P.S. I ignore paid reviews and can smell one a mile away.
@toddpacker7058
@toddpacker7058 9 ай бұрын
I have the Globe Haul, it’s awesome, and fast.
@fgh2756
@fgh2756 8 ай бұрын
Cali class 3 bike owner. I usually stay on the street. If I ever am on the sidewalk, it's usually at 12mph or slower. I don't use trails or bike lanes divided from the main traffic.
@tuppytheducky
@tuppytheducky 10 ай бұрын
subscriber 60 checking in
@frankiealbritton9381
@frankiealbritton9381 10 ай бұрын
I like it already when is the milking
@user-jg8fq6pg4u
@user-jg8fq6pg4u 3 ай бұрын
What about the Benno Boost Speed? That would be a good one for you :)
@octagonPerfectionist
@octagonPerfectionist 8 ай бұрын
have you taken a look at the long tail version of the specialized or was that never in the running?
@octagonPerfectionist
@octagonPerfectionist 8 ай бұрын
i saw someone say that lowering the tire pressure to 10-15psi would help with the lack of suspension forks
@jancoetzer9941
@jancoetzer9941 9 күн бұрын
Unless you have to carry the bike up some stairs or something, I wouldn't give so much weight to the weight... (see what I did there?). The (MUCH) bigger motor of the Globe Haul should more than make up for the bike's weight. I did this same matrix, and nothing beat the Globe Haul, in my opinion...
@tedbellWRV
@tedbellWRV Ай бұрын
Good attempt - but the "according to science" needs improvement. First of all, some of the data is mixed up - for example some bikes have motor watts mixed up with battery watt-hours. For example, the Tern (spelled with an "e", not "u") Quick Haul, has a 250 W continuous rated motor (which is rated in accordance with European standards), not a "400 watt motor". Its battery is 400 watt-hours, which is smaller than most and range will be limited. Some data is just wrong. For example, the Tern HSD S11 has 75Nm of torque, not 80Nm. As an aside, and for science, the motor watt ratings are virtually meaningless. They are typically peak ratings made up by the marketing department and are usually representing the motor watt consumption, not motor output to the wheel. Think LED 10 watt bulb light output vs an incandescent 100 watt bulb. Torque, (Nm) is the only motor measurement that has some kind of meaning. But, you should realize that the mid-drive motors can use the bicycle's gearing to multiply the torque, vs a hub drive which drives the wheel directly. So a less powerful mid-drive might out climb a hub motor of the same torque rating. You did not get into it much, but the weight ratings usually include the bike's weight, so a bike rated at 330 lbs sounds like a lot, but really isn't once you deduct the 70 to 80 pounds for the bike weight. Personally, I'd not buy a cargo bike with a weight rating of less than 400 lbs. I do think your final result is decent. The Specialized Globe Haul ST is a pretty darn good cargo bike for the money. But it is pretty heavy. The Globe Haul has been on sale recently (as many of these e-bikes have been) so an even better price.
@urastus9202
@urastus9202 8 ай бұрын
re load capacity on the rear; the actual weak point is generally the axle. Check out the axles; they need to be big and beefy.
@vlady8me
@vlady8me 9 ай бұрын
now Car Free in Ternessee?
@CarFreeinTennessee
@CarFreeinTennessee 9 ай бұрын
So true
@user-do7rw5oi2h
@user-do7rw5oi2h 10 ай бұрын
Dude, where's Anioki on your list? He has 11/10😂
@robenglish416
@robenglish416 10 ай бұрын
Yuba Fastrack $3999?
@beerandbrat
@beerandbrat 7 ай бұрын
according to lectric's website the expedition is a class 2 not a class 3
@emittingtenseyelps7732
@emittingtenseyelps7732 6 ай бұрын
i have TERN S 10 IT ISA KEEPER
@SolarizeYourLife
@SolarizeYourLife 8 ай бұрын
I only recognize specialist bike, all others never heard of before....there is too many bike manufacturers...
@mohamadmansor2279
@mohamadmansor2279 9 ай бұрын
Y u show a 🐐 not good vedio
@robertbrooks7936
@robertbrooks7936 9 ай бұрын
This is a very disappointing video. You seems to look more favorable to the more expensive bike.
@CarFreeinTennessee
@CarFreeinTennessee 9 ай бұрын
Are you surprised that the more expensive bikes have better features? I tried to provide an honest evaluation of the bikes I found based on my experiences and the available information. Please share any bikes or thoughts you have!
@ST-oq9wx
@ST-oq9wx 9 ай бұрын
Don’t forget, the Globe Haul LT is now out which is a much better fit for your use case. The Tern is great though I just prefer the look of the Globe Haul, it’s accessories and the dealer support (this cannot be overstated enough) - so much so I ordered an LT to compliment my Haul ST. I also think the Haul ST deserved a higher quality rating. Also, Specialized just confirmed the rear rack can handle 132 pounds for all STs.
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