The Best Commercial Stand On Mower For 2023? We Tested 9 Standers & Picked A Winner 🏆

[@Technotranceism]

The 2 primary stand on mowers I've used lately, are the exmark staris, and the wright zk. I liked both brand's, however they both have some minor things I didn't like. The exmark was a pita to change the main belt on, and I didn't enjoy the controls that spread out. I did enjoy the speed range, and the cut quality, as well as the fuel efficiency and deck setting. The cover shield for the engine, was a big plus, as it was strong enough to carry things on it, without damaging them. As for the wright zk, it's control's we're different, but I like the responsiveness and the fact that they are stationary. It had really good speed, and on the fly deck height adjustment. It's downsides for me, we're not very fuel efficient, and the spring plate would tend to want to eject you off the mower on uneven ground. It had no protection against touching the exhaust or motor which is really bad. Deck pin not the greatest. Otherwise I like them both.

[@exterminator1]

Wright did NOT invent the stander. Dane Scag did. Wright had the patent for where to stand on the mower. Cant judge any of them till you cutting grass.

[@louisberndt5489]

Good info...but I think the most important thing to most of us is cut quality and grass dispersement...I can adapt to anything you spoke about but cannot deal with a lousy cut ....And your vr2 is one of the best here in the northeast...I know you couldn't include that but it's a major piece of info when you're spending 12 to 15 thousand or more...Thanks again.

[@eddiereyna2998]

Have you ever used a JD Mowers? Regardless of the conditions, those mowers were beast at tackling tall , wet grass & not leaving clumps of clippings. For me , the one issue is the price for JD as far as product , parts and repairs . All of em very high. But like I said , the company that I was working for had a fleet of JD but then they went with ExMark . Crappy mowers , all the way around and they couldn’t give a great cut nor handle the abuse , as parts would break or come loose .

[@hellocheckco]

Thanks man! I agree. If it's not throwing the grass out, and I'm having to double cut, then I'm not happy either! Not surprised that the vr2 is one of the best up there... definitely didn't want to come across as biased, but based on what I saw I'd chose Wright, Scag, or Hustler (no particular order) anytime.

[@hellocheckco]

@@eddiereyna2998 Some people I follow on Tiktok run JD and they put them through the ringer! Honestly pretty impressive.

[@johnstromain4349]

My 2011 Exmark Vantage has been a great mower .. but the newer models seem to have gone down in quality ..

[@checktutorials]

@@johnstromain4349 Thanks for dropping this here! Classic "they don't make them like they used to" issue, huh? I still hear it's a great machine, though.

[@seemoore]

Pity you didn't cut wet grass to properly test any mower.

[@Gimmiedat80]

Who cuts wet grass?

[@seabass22]

@@Gimmiedat80everyone in the south

[@AudiophileTommy]

@@seabass22I’m in the south and I will not cut my grass when it’s wet 🎉

[@seabass22]

@@AudiophileTommy yards are still wet from dew at 1 pm here

[@godw1ll99]

@@Gimmiedat80 me... in the pouring rain sometimes because its not sustainable to shut down a business for days at a time just because its raining. anyway, its never been a problem ever since i started stacking mulching blades on top of high lift blades on my wright stander. doesnt work well with less than 23hp though but otherwise i can open shoot and 0 clumps anywhere. its amazing. there are only a few customers that request i dont cut in the rain but that mostly has to do with their lawn situation. some lawns arent so sturdy and saturate easily making it very hard to cut without doing damage.

[@eddiereyna2998]

Say that ya know how to use stand on mowers , when you’ve bought a Great Dane Stand on mower from over 20 years ago . My personal opinion about this course , it sucks . I wouldn’t attempt to have professional lawnmower guys ride these on a track like this at all . I was on a National Lawnmower Company that’s the only one that was publicly traded , but though they are wealthier then most other lawnmower companies, their choice for managers sub par . They had a fleet of JD stand on & sit down mowers but they typically only would allow crews who were also typically under equipped go out with only 1 mower . The downside to these actions meant that they’d send crews to take on large properties where the crew leader would still be mowing while everyone else was done and waiting . Now with that said , we serviced a property with 244 acres and it have every imaginable terrain that you’d throw at a mower . The JD cuts great and we’re robust and had a great safety feature that allowed the operator to go down a slick slope wo touching the brakes and the mower would smoothly go down and then you could engage the brakes . Then again one knucklehead flipped a 60” sit down mower on a steep slope cause he was riding parallel with the slope . We also had lots of retention ponds to deal with and they have bumpy steep slopes . Not a problem with a true professional. Looks to as Grasshoppers design team did some true operator input .

[@stuarttyler3209]

Aren’t the John Deere very similar to the wright machines?

[@alllakelandscapelawn4273]

Great video and demo of stander mowers. I currently have a 8 year old Wright Stander ZK 52” and absolutely still I would say the best stander I’ve owned. I also have 2021 Ferris stander, 2020 Bad Boy Stander, 2019 Gravely Stander, 2 Scag Stander 2018, and 1 Toro Grandstand 2017. with that being said The ZK has 2800-HRS on I bought it used with 300-HRS and have been in the business since 1994 and have probably owned more than 60+ mowers and will say the ZK is just that great of a mower that I refuse to let it go. I do not have a dealer near me or I would have 10 in my fleet. GREAT VIDEO AND AWESOME REVIEWS.

[@dariend6368]

How many hours have you accrued in all these machines, there all awesome when there new!! So with that being said, you driving around a dirt patch in between hay bails doesn't mean jack shit!! You go out there with your rock and roll 90's haircut and get some real hours on them machines!!!

[@jacobhenderson2359]

I run a Ferris stander and it has been absolutely wonderful. No maintenance problems ever, cut quality is great, comfortable to stand, and easy to adjust speed.

[@quintarioushopson2985]

I had a Ferris stander had to send it back to the dealer brand new fuel pump had went out on it

[@LK-851]

I feel he didn’t get any info on the Ferris before he got on it. There’s so much that he didn’t even look at or consider. He didn’t even realize that the standing platform was adjustable…kind of like with the controls.

[@BigTurfGuy]

I owned the 72" Z3X and it was the absolute WORST mower I've ever had. It literally sat in the shop for issues after issue (pumps, frame weld issues, replaced the whole deck, spindles etc.) Never again.

[@MapleLeafAssociates]

How is it on the hills?

[@rontopping7811]

The grandstand platform is mounted on rubber stops. Most comfortable platform.

[@marianneamyotte8629]

You didn’t even test the John Deere stand on mowers

[@Sparr78-f6m]

I run a Wright zk and honestly the double arm controls once you hit used to them are better

[@godw1ll99]

i feel the same.

[@miraman68]

I'm partial to Ferris but am looking in to the grasshopper and maybe wright. One thing is For sure though, one of these companies need to come up with an easier accessible way to maintenance the hydro's.! They are so compact and hard to get to that the mechanics around here are afraid to even do it for me..

[@Shane_h99]

This channel is gonna blow up quick when it gets traction.

[@hellocheckco]

I appreciate the vote of confidence! 🤜🤛

[@E.L.C.]

Must have been something wrong with the bobcat zs4000 because mine stops instantly when I let go of the levers. Plus, it has transport speed, which is faster than just cut mode 😉

[@Ohhwell]

I love my kubota sz52 it’s a beast and stripes as good if not better than the scags around me. Very similar to your bobcat. What a tank of a machine!

[@tommix2181]

Love my ferris 3zx 61". 3 years rock soild.

[@shannonroseboro3995]

He could've adjusted it and tried agin very basis frm the start

[@procut5127]

I guess I am the only person that has had issues with Ferris. Both my z3x had cracked decks with less than 500 hours on them. The 61” frame also cracked by the deck lift. I have had numerous hydro issues with these two machines also. I think the motors are not big enough. Also had a z2 which had issues. Had tons of down time with all 3 machines. In 2021 I bought my first Wright ZK. Two seasons and not one problem. Picked up another one in 2022 and no problems. Guess what? I am going yellow because you can’t make money when the machine is sitting in the shop all the time.

[@hellocheckco]

@@shannonroseboro3995 True true! But I actually came to dislike that feature. The Ferris was the first one I saw it on, but I'd much rather have the full throttle and learn it with one setting (like the Scag).

[@hellocheckco]

That's awesome. It seemed like a great unit!

[@hellocheckco]

@@procut5127 Wow, cracked decks on both units? That's unacceptable. I love that everyone is affirming the Wright ZK decision. I haven't ran them in the field myself, so that's really awesome that true users are saying they are the best.

[@garysosebee]

My question is…. How do they cut grass? Very important thing also, how do they cut wet grass?🤔

[@jc51373]

exactly...Ridiculously shilling review here for the manufacturers. Cut quality is THE most important and AirFX deck is one of the, if the THE, best decks of all of those machines.

[@maxeffortlawnservice9249]

This video is directly responsible for me running out and buying a Hustler Super SF 72. Didn't even know they existed!

[@biddiebon]

Why didn't you test the Bad Boy Revolt?

[@musimowingmoreinc9031]

Completely agree. Own 4 wrights, 3 zk's

[@hellocheckco]

💪💪💪

[@ayougo]

On some of those mowers, the "bump" bar prevents people from leaning forward or falling ontop the controls.

[@badboymowersofnorman6011]

Bad Boy Revolt has a lot of everything you like and others missed.

[@josephlade7486]

Thanks for the information man. Great video! I have 6 Wright standers and a couple of scags but I absolutely love my ZKs. They are very comfortable, super sturdy, and an all around a great mower!

[@hellocheckco]

You're welcome! That is awesome. Would love to know your thoughts on the control difference btw Wright and Scag given that you've ran both!

[@JohnWaldron44]

Which do you prefer for cut quality scag or zk ?

[@josephlade7486]

@JohnWaldron44 Well that is a tough question to answer. There isn't a wrong answer really. They both stripe very well. It partly depends on the operator I think, but I think Scag does a better job with wet grass. The mulch kit that comes on the Wright does a great job laying down stripes.

[@JohnWaldron44]

Ya ,I think my concern was wet grass and the least amount of clumping. I'm sure they both stripe pretty nice.

[@zozocreek8327]

Most of my customers here in West Virginia don’t like the stand on mowers. I still use gravely walk behinds with a 2 wheel sulky. I can get off and walk steep hills and I have large turf master wheels so I don’t tear yards up. Been doing this for 30 years and have watched the quality of a lot mowing equipment go down hill. Corporate greed 😢

[@Ohhwell]

It’s all about the operator. You may just not be as comfortable with the stand on mower yet. I can assure you cut quality has gone no where like you think it has. I’ve never tore up a yard on a stand on and it’s way faster than the walk behind. I can mow at 11 mph on my stand on lol

[@chasmofsar2691]

Thanks, Billy Ray, that was fun! It made me nervous watching that Wright bounce, and maybe that's on the operator, but I don't want a mower that gets herky-jerky and ruins my cut.

[@dmlandscapedesignllcatlant8093]

Bro clearly you dont know much about the ferris the adjustable handle is speed control and the standing plate is also adjustable so the spring can be taylored to your wieght

[@hellocheckco]

You're right, I don't! I don't have a Ferris dealer near me. But honestly after testing a number of units with the speed control I decided I don't like it. Do you run Ferris?

[@toddbenfield6546]

Prolly didn’t know about the articulating wheels either to prevent scalping, and smoothing the ride👍

[@g4outdoors]

200 subs?! Amazing production!

[@hellocheckco]

😊👏👏👏

[@thastinger345]

My Wright 36 is a 2000 model, thing is built like a tank and still runs well... On its original pumps and motors

[@notyou1760]

Verstappen fans!

[@GREGHOLUB]

Need to see the cub cadet and the spartan kg xd and the bad boy revolt

[@WrightMowers]

Keep up the good work

[@hellocheckco]

Will do, and y'all as well! 💪

[@dkimling]

I’ve had my Ferris Z3X 61 for 3 years and it’s been wonderful. The controls all make sense in their placement, easy to throttle down (mine has a lever) with hands on the control to engage the PTO with the other hand also on the controls. As for as the adjustable speed control bar, I wouldn’t want to go without one. In the instances where you want to go full out you’re usually not doing many turns or back and forth motion with the throttle levers so the need to have your fingertips on the bar is not an issue for me, when I want to go full throttle I push and hold on. The real value of the speed control bar is for limiting down. If I’m near cars or wall unit acs and need to be really close I often adjust the bar to the “slowest setting” as a safe guard. Or if I stick a newbie running it, I put it there to give them a little time to get used to it. Most often though I know I need to be at the second position for optimal cut or 3rd position for a quicker cut, in those instances the comfort of being able to fully close your hand around that bar is a great asset, especially in larger fields with long runs, it’s much less fatiguing on the hands than having to try to manually hold your speed without a stop. And it’s super easy and quick to adjust it, I can even do it easily while mowing without stopping. The Z3 platform is also comfortable and it’s wide stance makes it very smooth and easy to control. I also have a 36” Z1 but I always put beginners on the the Z3 because it is smooth and forgiving, and the wide tires make it really responsive. Not to mention the way it hugs slopes.

[@garryweinert6543]

Didn’t you try the Spartan KG stand on mower

[@hellocheckco]

I should have! Didn't have time for absolutely all the mowers unfortunately. We went for all the major brands.

[@mikehawkinssr]

They cut quality is very important

[@lenovillegas3868]

Hustler or Grasshopper were a tie for me then Bobcat

[@jeffpeterson5791]

Grasshopper has headlights , could be useful.

[@gregsatterly9412]

I run a Husqvarna stand on 48". It's got a 24.5 horse Kawasaki engine and cuts great. Why didn't he demo the Husqvarna stand on? Husqvarna is the dark horse in the industry. I love their stand on, zero turns, and their 2 cycle equipment. If you buy any zero turn, walk behind, or stand on stay away from the Vanguard engines. They're junk!!! I have been in the Green Industry for 35 plus years and have just about every brand of mower, weedeater, backpack blower and so on. Like I said I will stay with Husqvarna. Literally everything I own is Husqvarna commercial and its never let me down.

[@johnstromain4349]

.. oh and I’m not a big fan of the Tweels which I have on my JD .. my regular pneumatic tires on my Exmark seem to give a better grip .. I believe if they made the tweels rounded with some give like a pneumatic tire they’d be as good maybe ..?? The engineeres at Michelin need to do more R& D ..

[@barryfleenor8687]

I disagree... I've ran tweels on an older exmark advantage series mower , and the hill climbing ability is ridiculous, rider comfort is off the charts amazing...

[@scoop-pm7lk]

I like the standing platform to be between the wheels not sticking out behind them ... Im scoop n I back into stuff ..I wonder wut this lever does ``__________________CRASH!!%#$#$%,,.. ok that was broken when I got here ... I'll pull it forward ``____________CRASH!!!%$#@,,.... ok that one I did

[@ErikEmlinger]

I have run the Ferris Z3X and the new Grasshopper. The Ferris blows the Grasshopper away. Comfort platform sucks. The engine goes up and down with the deck. On the Ferris it will hold hills going side ways has independent front suspension and is connected to the deck so no skelpping. The platform has a Atv adjustable shock. Which makes it so comfortable. Only thing I don't like about the Ferris is the workmanship.

[@ToddField-cq3zj]

Delivered a nice even cut, has the super tight turning ability kzbin.infoUgkx1VWTrayKBdCKAjzAcZ_Eg4dhHTae3LkN also recommend I was looking for, and is just a blast to drive. It takes a little bit to get used to driving one after driving a normal tractor style, but once you've got it, you've got it. If you're cutting lines, you have to be careful spinning the mower around or the back tire will dig a bare spot. Just take it nice and slow during the turn and then it's back to full throttle across the yard!

[@joshh3395]

@check great video! I want to echo your statement about dealer support and wanted to add... You will not find another company that offers the support that Wright does, from the very top to the bottom. Ed Wright himself will answer any questions the end user has. Very accessible and great guy!

[@hellocheckco]

Man, that's impressive! I love that. He seems pretty down to earth.

[@brentbellman1941]

I disagree I have always ran Wright standers and lately getting parts has been a nightmare. Took 6 months to get a hydro pump

[@brentbellman1941]

I have a Wright with 1041 hours on it and already need a new engine. I’m switching to another brand maybe Bobcat

[@johnmpifer]

@@brentbellman1941 What does that have to do with Wright? Did Wright make the engine? 😂

[@josephcollins3447]

Not everyone lives in your district aye 😅

[@blumaxx1]

Not sure how you can honestly evaluate a mower by driving it around straw bales,,,and as one Commenter mentioned,,by mowing damp grass,,,🤔

[@godw1ll99]

wright standers have been the best ive ever used personally. i havent used every mower but at this point im not sure if i care because wright standers hit every mark for me as is.

[@Theultrazombiekiller]

I have used many stand ons, a new one that was extremely impressive was the John Deere Q850R. Best I have ever used.

[@ptiam1]

I wish you had checked decibel levels!

[@GrimmyplaysFortnite]

Who runs the scat stander? Have a dealer close by who I trust. How are the stripes and maintenance?

[@richscott2952]

Most important , turn around without tearing grass ,back and front wheels marks ,

[@hellocheckco]

Yup! Gotta keep that inside wheel moving!

[@davenhunter99]

What about spartan, bad boy, and altoz? I wish someone would test all the stand on's!

[@BigTurfGuy]

You lost me with all credibility when you said you run a 36" VRide. LOL. We run Toro GS 60" and put 800hrs per year on them with very little issues. Some of our Grandstands have 3500 hours and I'm hoping for 4000-5000 and thats mowing bumpy cemeteries. Toro has decent rubber suspension btw...

[@BigTurfGuy]

I will agree with you that the SF Hustler is great but its in another level (and price range) of mower. You just can't compare it to the typical lineup of most of these mowers, it is just more industrial than the ZK and the HDX.

[@scoop-pm7lk]

Im gonna go out on a limb n say Hustler or ferris .... great now im stuck out on a limb someone call the truck with the tall ladder on it

[@nuttermudder4630]

while i appreciate the comparison, comparing mowers without comparing how they cut is kind of pointless.

[@Travis2L]

Not true AT ALL. YOU clearly don’t know much which is why you’re here. God bless you

[@nuttermudder4630]

@@Travis2L you're right, i only do this for a living

[@Travis2L]

@@nuttermudder4630 very poorly and under researched obviously. Faking it till you make it isn’t the way.

[@theclarksvillepiper9202]

I was hoping to see you review a Kubota in this video as that's the one I'm looking at right now.

[@chrishudson6011]

The real winner isn't even in that line up! Bad Boy Revolt is a industry best!

[@shirleyewing7304]

I love your hair

[@hellocheckco]

😉

[@lukedawg357SIG]

Great video I'm not in lawn care just like mowers thanks for the review take care.

[@hellocheckco]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@juddblaney9320]

What an outstanding comparison. You got on there, didn’t make a bunch of BS comments here and there, just drove every single stand on you could and nit picked em. Great job

[@robertsantana5245]

21:39 it literally has a push/pull pin so that the standing deck folds all the way up

[@johnstromain4349]

I’ve got a 2011 Exmark Vantage 52” completely baffled true mulching mower with 25hp EFI-Kohler and 2021 John Deere 652R MOD 52” (Mulch On Demand) with 23.5hp Kawi mower .. love them both .. never an issue other than the JD does tend to high center and get stuck on the bar below the standing platform if ground is too wet in some areas .. I’d sure like to cut that bar out ..! Anyway both Exmark and John Deere are local .. you’re right about using mowers that are serviced locally .. thanks for your enthusiastic demo mixed with good humor and real world demos ..!! I’d love to have a Wright dealer locally .. I’d certainly be interested in that mower as well ..

[@jophoto934]

The reason the Bobcat slows to a stop is so you don’t fly over the front in a stop.

[@tonywilliams424]

I think the Hustler is the Best especially the auto deck lift. I have a Bad Shoulder I love that about them & Speed

[@albertkeese1680]

What about the altoz stand up track system

[@hellocheckco]

That one looked SO sick, but I don't think it's super practical IMO. Have you ran one?

[@FindersKeepers88]

Good, Thx

[@NHWilderness]

Dont know if i just or you didnt have the cub cadet ive heard good things

[@JosephTurano-wy1zg]

Bobcat number one 😊

[@billdwyer7897]

How are the stand on mowers for hills like we have here in Connecticut? I have never tried one yet

[@whalerlife53]

With a few exceptions, I don’t get why the standers are so popular. Why do lawn guys want to stand all day.

[@LK-851]

Saves trailer space, they’re more maneuverable and who wants to sit on their azz all day? 😂

[@Leaveit2roman]

I’m about to buy a 52 in stand on and still in a debt weather to get a stand on or stand behind. The local dealers of mine have pretty much every brand I’m so lost lol. Wright is offering the best sale right now.

[@matthewthebirdnerd]

I ran a Wright when I had my company. Loved it! You can't go wrong with the guys who invented the segment.

[@traderbit2015]

was für eine coole Veranstaltung. Grüße aus Deutschland,29633 Frank

[@Htzcw]

This isn’t a very good rewview lol. You don’t even get the chance to cut grass

[@johnmpifer]

A grass cutting test is needed before making a decision, sure. But the review still has a lot of comparison value.

[@zachslawncare1]

Great Dane invented the stander but ok

[@rirrid5662]

Just for reference what height are you?

[@tommywilliamsons3291]

Curious if you have had the opportunity to run a kubota stand on and if so your thoughts on it, thanks

[@rossflorence7392]

The exmark vertex is a Wright Stander X painted red.

[@onthelake9554]

But Wright didn't build it or authorize it , straight up rip off copy . I hope Ed sues their pants off.

[@acesh5606]

scag

[@tonywilliams424]

Hustler started Zero Turns!

[@Jmaxwell1999]

Danger catz unite....

[@michaelkurchak5427]

He likes the smooth controls

[@bhunt919]

They are all good mowers. Any of them will be good mowers. Also, you really can't compare 52in to 60 or 61in mowers. Majority of all the landscaping companies are using 52in .

[@leebomccool8997]

Seems most of these reviews do this apples to oranges comparisons.

[@Chris-bz9pg]

almost everyone in my area runs 61s

[@servanttofriend8481]

No Bad Boy Revolt?

[@wallacemerritt]

I love the features of the Cub Cadet pro X 600. The foot platform is quickly adjustable and the deck can be lifted with two fingers. Controls aren’t bad as well. I have many wright mowers but the cub cadet is really appealing and the price point of the cub cadet is very attractive. Demo one and see how it compares. Also I would have like to have seen the Badboy Revolt in this group for a comparison.

[@AaronsLawnCare08]

Channel is underrated

[@hellocheckco]

I appreciate that 💪

[@vallieschmidt4639]

You lighted my heart 💕😚

[@HenrySimar]

How about Cub Cattet

[@aldoavak9]

Your entire video was based primarily on ergonomics and the ability to do wheelies. You made absolutely no comments or references to build quality, engine reliability, deck thickness/strength, ease of maintenance, etc. This was an absolute waste of time watching and almost completely uninformative.

[@katiedodd2548]

you are really great✅

[@stevecrossland3681]

Great video. I appreciate your perspective.

[@shanepipkin4041]

dealer support is not all that if you know your equipment

[@johnmpifer]

The biggest need for dealer support is during the warranty period for parts replacement when things break.

[@akaColt45]

Hustle is so smooth!

[@1946luke]

Really nice machines, and great video. PS: Get haircut.

[@richscott2952]

Work boots

[@hellocheckco]

Hahaha, venmo me the money and I'll think about it 😅

[@hellocheckco]

@@richscott2952 I always have work boots on in the field!

[@harryerhart5978]

Nice video I'm the big guy on the grasshopper ztr green plaid jacket oh I'm famous now thanks for filming me I've been to every Expo class of 83 👍👍

[@hellocheckco]

Hahaha amazing! I hope to run into you this year!

[@harryerhart5978]

@@hellocheckco me too my friend 👍

[@harryerhart5978]

36 is a little small for a professional landscaping company sorry you need to look at which company makes the best build. Ed Wright wins hands down because it's built better

[@caseyturner3989]

Funny thing is you didn’t even demo a efi model on the zk

[@caseyturner3989]

Was cub cadet not there??

[@hellocheckco]

🤯🤯🤯

[@hellocheckco]

Yeah they were there. We could only get to so many 😅 Do you think they would have placed at the top?

[@caseyturner3989]

@@hellocheckco I had a loaner at one point last year and I really liked it

[@hellocheckco]

@@caseyturner3989 That's good to know! I'm not sure I have any dealers around me. Hustler is owned by the same company as Cub Cadet (Stanley Black and Decker, Dewalt) so I wanted to at least get one of them.

[@kevinholbrook7174]

I would choose the: Bad Boy “Revolt”!

[@hellocheckco]

I saw Bad Boy, but we didn't have time to test that one too!

[@robertdemaree2165]

Dane scag invented the stander remember the Great Dane mowers those were the first standers

[@morejelloplease]

I looked at standers before purchasing my 5th zero turn. I've had 4 brand new scags that failed me along with a brand new hustler fastrak that wouldn't cut grass if its life depended on it. The dealer had to buy it back. I'm still searching for a decent zero turn.

[@Spencerwilkinson10]

Could you share how they failed ? I’m looking to buy a vride 2 with the 40hp vanguard. Would appreciate your feedback

[@morejelloplease]

@GreenScapes Lawn&Landscaping the Vanguard 28 EFI was missing gasket material on the crankcase applied directly by a robotic arm and leaked, not to mention both Parker wheel motors were not torqued properly from the factory and leaked along with the fittings at the hydro gear pumps were leaking. Scag is overpriced hype now.

[@jklbubbublkj7939]

@@morejelloplease just to play advocate, hydros and motor issues are unrelated to mower brand. its very rare for the mower brand to make an engine or hydro, and are not responsible for them. if the machine itself breaks, thats on them, not engine.

[@morejelloplease]

@jklbubbublkj7939 yeah but how would you feel if you bought 4 new machines and they all had issues? If I buy a new car and the ABS sensor is made by Bosch, the deal needs to fix it . This was only the case with one dealer that ended up buying back the new scag that leaked in 5 places. He since won't sell me another machine either, oh well. I thought hustler was the answer but their customer service is worse than scag.

[@Ohhwell]

@@morejellopleaseget a kubota, bobcat or wright you’ll be happy as shit