The BEST F-104 demo EVER!!! Whistle sounds NO music or talking!

/ xrm150 I share great stuff on there!
Please let me know what you liked or hated about this video! I read everything!
This F-104 was flown at the 2013 Tico Warbird Airshow in Titusville, Florida. You gotta love the sound of that howl! If you look close you can see the air brakes being deployed after his passes. I think this is the best F-104 demo on KZbin! What do you think?

[@smiff4748]

The F-104 is still one of the most beautiful planes of all time. Its majestic

[@brianwillson9567]

I totally agree with your comments. But, in my opinion, not a good display aircraft for viewing with the naked eyeball. Impressive display line flypast followed by just a dot in the distance as it does a ‘country wide’ turn before next flypast. The kriegsmarine four ship display team was good VERY LOUD.

[@mannydeutschmann5045]

Not "one" -- "theeee" most beautiful ac in the World- thanks Kelly!!

[@CurtisLittlechild92]

Can we all just take a moment to appreciate this guy's camera tracking skills?

[@Xrm150]

Not bad for a hand-held camcorder =)

[@craigpennington1251]

A BIG THANKS FOR NO MUSIC. That engine is the music. That Starfighter always a classic.Nice paint job too.

[@Xrm150]

+Craig Pennington a BIG thanks for the comment. =)

[@ShakeITyEA]

its an impressive vehicle for sure. like a rocket with a steering wheel.

[@F5Storm1]

The roar and whistle of the engines of any aircraft is music

[@samstroup2685]

I second the no music! and thanks for a great vid! The 104 is another Kelly Johnson triumph!

[@Xrm150]

Your welcome!

[@bearcat729]

As a 20 years old I was privileged to assist Darryl Greenamyer manufacture needed SS brackets supports for the thrust rockets in the nose as well as the 200 brass spray water nozzles in the intakes to cool the air at 850 knots indicated. Was at World Record at Mud Lake to see that record that holds to this day. An honor to call him a friend.

[@briancroftart]

I flew nearly 1000 hours in this amazing machine.... Flying the CF 104 cannot be imagined. The thrust, responsiveness and guts built into this brilliant fighter will never be forgotten by those few who flew as Starfighter Pilots. Tiger 61, 439 Squadron.

[@denmalski]

+Brian Croft you might have flown that very starfighter during your training at 417, that plane in the video is an old CF-104D

[@denmalski]

+Brian Croft That company flies 3 old CF-104's 632, 850, and 759. odds are you flew one of them

[@rbagel55]

+Brian Croft My father was a Navy F4 pilot. He used to educate me a lot on military jets. He told me this airplane was difficult to fly, mostly because of the small wing. What was the landing approach speed on this jet?

[@mistertagnan]

I discovered this jet through a game.......needless to say now I'm in love with it

[@sanfranciscobay]

Many details about flying the F104 can be found here: www.airplanedriver.net/study/f104.htm

[@kasteman1]

It's crazy to think the F-104 was first designed 63 years ago. It still has a futuristic sci-fi look to it.

[@dennism103]

Didn't the Germans design it?

[@Xrm150]

No

[@BILLYLAMB76]

@@dennism103 kelly johnson from lockheed--also designed the SR71 among others.

[@soaringvulture]

Kelly Johnson's designs are eternal.

[@cwb7143]

I know this is like 3 years too late but what's really cool is the fact it's speed can mach even today's modern fighter jets

[@mikefigures5541]

One more thing: Hats off to the man in the cockpit. Nothing more beautiful than an F104 being put thru its paces at the hands of a skilled pilot.

[@mikefm4]

There’s something truly special about this aircraft. Considering the era it came out it’s an amazing leap in technology. So many records were broken by the 104 that are still impressive today.

[@jagdpanther6327]

Goosebumps,... one of the most beautiful aircraft ever flown. Kelly Johnson certainly had a eye for aesthetics,the P38, F104 and Blackbird. In my opinion the best aircraft designer period.

[@dougcastleman9518]

Don’t forget the U-2, the design of which started with the 104… with slightly longer wings.

[@MrKentaroMotoPI]

There was a slogan at the old Skunk Works: "looks right, is right".

[@Xrm150]

Sounds right! 👍

[@davidmathews9633]

This thing was called the widow maker because of all the accidents. It couldn't fly well

[@jagdpanther6327]

@@davidmathews9633 there is an album by Robert Calvert of Hawkwing called "Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters", released in 1974, which highlights Germanys experience with the Starfighters. One of the tracks is called "The widowmaker".

[@rsl6767]

No music, no chatter... excellent video. Many youtubers should take notes👍👍

[@lawsonone6015]

No music and no talking. Thumbs UP 👍🏾

[@gregknight293]

......If my old memory still serves me correctly, the television news story of this airplane....flew from California to a central Texas Air Force base in 80 minutes. I am still amazed. One of the sleekest jets ever built.....Really enjoyed the sounds of this plane with no interference of music or announcers......Many thanks.....

[@Xrm150]

You're welcome =)

[@ComputerLearning0]

*NO music or talking* was both an added draw and a bonus for me. I know people may mean well but many-a-video has been completely RUINED because of some stupid-ass music or someone talking during relevant parts of a video. There's a LOT to be said for video's that don't have either . . .

[@Xrm150]

Mike Hawk Yea I have a video that I made where you could hear the person talking on the PA thoughout the demo and everyone just kept commenting about how they wanted the speaker to be quiet. So now I stay far away from the PA speakers because I do care about what my viewers want.

[@josephgeis6641]

Can you find any info on a super corsair that my dad said they were building, I don't think it was ever built but I have been wrong before ?

[@stacase]

B I N G O ! Air shows and other venues where someone gets a microphone and thinks everyone wants to hear what's on their mind.

[@DavidJones-wr3sb]

totally agree with you

[@gcarlson]

I thought the title was hilarious. "This guy is bragging about his lack of production." But then there's that zen saying "speak only when it is an improvement on silence." I'd like to add "but don't brag about it." ;-) The audio is great. good vid.

[@cb2000a]

I remember watching one of these do a demo at an airshow standing next to an F4 pilot who kept saying "he's got to be getting low on fuel" over and over. One of my favorite aircraft of all time.

[@001davem]

The 104 looks exactly like what a jet should look like. Beautiful plane.

[@default123default2]

They tried to out Mig 21 the Mig 21 and it just didn't work

[@Xrm150]

I'm pretty sure they succeeded in making what the wanted.

[@H-cranky]

@@default123default2 the Russians made up for it with the su-27

[@elgar6743]

By a very large margin, the most aesthetically beautiful jet ever made...those lithe lines!!

[@justforever96]

I don't know about that. Besides the fact that beauty is totally subjective, the Mirage F.1 is at least as nice looking, in a less impressive way. The F-104 is more striking, the F.1 is more graceful and pretty. The F-16 may be a contender as well.

[@elgar6743]

@@justforever96 Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder, indeed!! When I was a little boy, my grandpa bought me the airplane toy of my choice that was in a small store ... and my eyes immediately focused on the F-104 that was among Spitfires, P51 Mustangs, B-52, F4 Phantom, ...I was in love with the lines even at that age! Rose coloured glasses etc. Ha! And I, too, like the lines of the Falcon and Mirage F1 as well.

[@getsideways7257]

@@justforever96 Surely you meant Mirage III instead? Other than that I do agree with your statement.

[@miltonkgeedvm]

this is the most perfect recording of stunt flight maneuvers I have ever seen. You kept the camera tracking beautifully. the absence of PA verbiage adds to the majesty. You did the pilot(s) and audience a great service for which I am grateful.

[@Xrm150]

Thank you for the kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed the video.

[@Xrm150]

I aim to please

[@AgentJayZ]

Cool video. This is one of the planes operated by the Starfighters Group. I have worked on a couple of their engines, and have some videos of us operating them in our test cell. One interesting tidbit is that their engines are the only ones we test that have what are called standard combustor liners, and this is the cause of the black smoke. You can see the difference between these and the "low-smoke" liners in other J79 tests I have posted. To see the engine in this plane, and others, you could take a look at a playlist called The J79 Turbojet Engine. Cheers !

[@newdeathscope]

AgentJayZ funny seeing you here, long time sub. What are the preformence differences between the standard and low smoke, and why do you think they went with the standard in this case?

[@WildBillCox13]

I'm a fan of your channel.

[@AgentJayZ]

@@newdeathscope Sorry for taking a year! What we call standard now was the only thing they had when the engine was first developed. Years later the newer low smoke combustion system was developed as an update, and at the same time the AB nozzle design was altered to eliminate the howling at medium power settings. There is no real performance gain with the low smoke system, but it is a major improvement for a combat aircraft to not leave a trail in the sky that is easily visible by the enemy, eh?

[@Xrm150]

That trail makes it easy to film! =D

[@richardm4857]

@@Xrm150 Nice job. Thanks!

[@brucerideout9511]

As a child was at all RCAF stations in Europe. Dad took me Many times airside to sit in the planes at Lahr and Baden. Some of the Starfighter paint jobs were fantastic. Cherished memories.

[@Byzantios1]

A true aficionado. Thanks for not adding music.The f-104 is a magnificent bird.

[@chesterclingan5542]

F-104, my all time favorite jet. It was a beauty and set a lot of records.

[@jgibbsphd2743]

For years, the F 104 held both altitude and speed records, and it was created to be a super sonic, "high altitude interceptor" during a cold war environment and against long range nuclear bombers. In that role, it performed as promised. Altitudes of 110,000' to 118,000'+ were achieved by experienced pilots with velocities of mach 2+. Also, the F 104 piloted by Mike Korte made the first inflight refueled trans-continental flight from California to Spain. Mike held the USAF F-104 combat record with 138+ combat missions. The Star Fighter was not intended to be a "knife fighter" in a dog fight, but to go faster and higher more quickly than anything before it and shoot down approaching Soviet nuclear aircraft. Its fighting principle was based on "speed is life" combat roles, and it was ill suited for slow or low fighting missions. Like taking a long range high velocity sniper rifle into an "in your face" pistol and knife fight, often, the F 104 was inappropriately used by leadership of lesser knowledge and skill.

[@Xrm150]

+J Gibbs, PhD nice comment!

[@ovemunk]

Spot on i'd say. The Danish Air Force used them as a "scramble interceptor" and it worked brilliantly in that role. BUT they also used the F100 as a fighterbomber and that worked perfectly too. Each plane used in it's intended role. (The Danes didn't have NEARLY the amount of crashes that the Germans had).

[@curiousgeorge1940]

I could tell from that black exhaust that the engine hated to be any lower than 30k. Probably happiest at 50+ and Mach 2 !

[@EroomYrrah]

Agreed....Blow by the migs and attack the bombers.

[@OgrabliatorKorovanov]

but Lockheed themself positioned it as multirole all-weather fighter when they proposed it to international market... it was not just some stupid whim of germans... And don't talk about "lesser skill" - I bet merican pilots would crash just like germans if they were ordered to fly it low and slow.

[@bobmassey7227]

My favorite jet when I was a kid. Had a little starfoam glider. Never thought anything looked as beautiful as an F-104. Thanks for posting this.

[@bobmassey7227]

@Duke of Mecklenburg-Schwerin I had read something along those lines. Beautiful plane, but a bit hard on pilots.

[@scottewing2031]

"My favourite jet when I was a kid." Ditto.

[@justforever96]

"Starfoam"? Is that a thing, or do you mean "styrofoam"?

[@bobmassey7227]

@@justforever96 good eye, got me on that one.

[@Xrm150]

Starfoam sounds cooler!

[@randall1959]

The sound of that engine and that whistle is all the music this video needs.

[@Platyfurmany]

Thank you! I needed that!!! I don't care what anyone else says, the F104 is still one of the most beautiful aircraft ever to take flight.

[@WelDoneAV]

The F-104 is one of my 3 favorite jets. The other two are the A-10 and the F-16.

[@dough9512]

@@Cognizant-ut9oj Are you German? Germany ordered F-104s that could perform multiple tasks. It was therefore complicated to fly. The German pilots called it the "flying coffin". It is a beautiful plane, though!

[@BillFromTheHill100]

@@WelDoneAV A-10 for sure Phantom too.

[@backpackerthrulife8497]

Amen. It and the B-1.

[@dockyard1797]

Doug H They were trying to use it as a tree top fighter bomber when it was designed for high altitude intercepting, unfortunate case of the right plane in the wrong place.

[@afterburner2869]

The F-104 is yet another feather in the cap of the great Kelly Johnson.

[@Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu]

F-104 was the first jet I ever touched at Flint Bishop Airport air show 1979. I was 4 and remember how sharp the leading edge on those little wings were.

[@thomasackerman3995]

Yes carelessly hit my skull on the wing while checking one out at an air show.ow! That wing in sharp as f#:%=! Very precisely machined.

[@colehara]

They used to either build or do maintenance on the CF-104's at a facility near my old high school. When those things took off or flew over none of us were paying attention to the teachers. We were glued to the windows.

[@kevinmurray5733]

When I was stationed in Germany in the late 70's, the Germany Air Force still flew f104's. They flew so low you could clearly see the pilots faces. Sometimes they would light their afterburners. Very very cool, and loud! U.S f4's would make mock runs on our tank positions, peel off and go afterburner. Never got tired of all that. It was way cool.

[@heinzwunsch8805]

Oh yeah, mid 70`s I was Part of ACT in Front of Fulda Gap. Sometimes our Car was the "Target"...Unbelievable Moments.

[@jamesking-ir9uf]

I pass an F104 parked on the tarmac on my way from Salisbury to Baltimore as a small airport in Cambridge, I think. I imagine myself in it flying every time I go by. It is second only to the SR71 as my favorite creation from the Skunkworks.

[@JT-gq8wv]

Yup. Easton Airport. I hear they tie a rope to it and have a Starfighter pull.

[@lhkraut]

Gorgeous! One of my former colleagues at Lufthansa, when he served in the Luftwaffe, was in an F-104 unit in the late 60's or in the 70's. He loved that aircraft!

[@Ifoughtpiranhas]

It looks like this plane is having a hard time NOT going supersonic.

[@jimmoran6454]

This plane can go mach 2 and I've gone mach 2 in an F-104.

[@peterstubbs5934]

AND?

[@oldigger7060]

As a non airman I often wonder why such planes can't still be in service with updated avionics and control systems.

[@peterstubbs5934]

oldigger In this case, because it was a one trick pony. Fast in a straight line END OF. Couldnt turn, poor ordnance capacity and it killed many a pilot.

[@Xrm150]

+Peter Stubbs it was a one trick pony BUT it was built for it and it did it VERY WELL!!

[@saberjim]

Thank you, thank you, thank you for the pure sound. No $@#$@%& rock music. -Former fighter pilot.

[@andrerovigatti9997]

Thank you so much for keeping the amazing sound of that machine ! It sounds as music !

[@Xrm150]

Your welcome

[@waynechambers2412]

Andre Rovigatti

[@markmcculloch3694]

I synchronized this very footage of this F 104 to the music of Neil Diamond's "Be"....it was awesome, and fit together like a glove! ;)

[@jeffreylindsey1757]

Sweet. And they let the flying stove pipe sing her own music!

[@slashusr]

What a beautiful jet! Memories of air shows past when the Starfighter was the star of the show. Your choice of sound accompaniment was perfect! Just perfect!

[@elmoomle4565]

The most aesthetically 'beautiful' lines of any airplane. Thanks for posting this great vid!!

[@billbates5475]

The infamous "Flying Coffin", beautiful aircraft, the whistle is amazing.

[@jimpankey9161]

The P-51 Mustang and the Lockheed F-104 were two of my favorite aircraft to draw when I was a kid in grammar school....loved it....

[@jimsanders4412]

Growing up in the ‘50s & ‘60s, I was very much aware of the F1104 Starfighter! It’s still one of the most beautiful designs ever! Even though it was reportedly a “handful” during landing.

[@Steve52344]

"A missile with a man in it." Beautiful jet, superb video. I commend you for not adding music. The J-79 soundtrack is all I want to hear. You could teach a lot of others how to make a jet demo video. Good job.

[@GnonplussedGnome]

Only thing that sounds as good is the thunder of an F4 and it's twin J79's

[@dougalan5614]

90% of an airshow is the sound of the engines. Great to have no music or talking ruining that!

[@FlyingTigersKMT]

I grew up in an air force family and my grandfather gave me a model F-104 which fueled my boyhood dreams for years. Love this plane.

[@ritchieblackmore2711]

My old dad worked with the c104 at prestwick in Scotland this aircraft is etched into my soul...beautiful

[@mentatassassan]

Really outstanding video recording work. Plane is almost always centered in the field of view. I also agree that no annoying music is a nice change.

[@RCScaleAirplanes]

I love Starfighters !

[@wumbologytm4466]

+RCScaleAirplanes And I love your channel :D (Huge fan)...I love 104s as well :)

[@RCScaleAirplanes]

+WumbologyTM Thank you. I'm glad to know that you like my videos. _Cheers, RCSA_

[@mistapeper1283]

speedy pencil capable of reaching mach 2

[@Walter_E_Kurtz]

That's a great movie.

[@markokampfelt3298]

Me too👍👍👍

[@Tonetwisters]

As a kid in the '50s, I just loved these things. I remember its claim to fame was that it could climb as fast as it could fly horizontally, not to mention it looked so cool!

[@dave-ish8098]

I remember seeing a privately owned f104 at an airshow a few years ago and I was genuinely impressed. It looks like it's a dream to fly.

[@CharlesHuse]

One of my favorite classics. I would love to see what Lockheed could do to the design with modern airframe materials, avionics, and engine technology. Absolutely nothing wrong with the design, just wondering how it would fair with the new stuff. If any of the current generation pilots are like me, they'd be eyeballing it like it was their daddy's classic Corvette.

[@skulengu6854]

I built a model of this a kid, it is awe inspiring to see it fly here. Especially because the pilot deploys the air brakes several times (the doors on either side that open up behind the wing). Also, thank you for not putting a soundtrack over the top of the footage, the engine is music to my ears! I had the chance to stand next to a static display at the Castle Air Museum in California. There were no missiles or wing pods on it and it showed just how small the wings are (as well as thin and sharp) compared to the massive engine. I walked around it several times because it looks almost impossible to fly with so much body and so little wing.

[@donsurlylyte]

first model kit i ever built, in the mid 60s

[@freddoughty1416]

I was assigned to the 479 TFW TFW, which spent time in Danang, Vietnam in 1965-66. Then as the 435th TFW in Thailand. I would always stop and listen as those planes flew overhead. No matter how long I worked on them I never tired of hearing the whistle of that J79. It had a fantastic WHOOOOOOO sound while taxiing. The previous poster who mentioned the leading edge wing guards is correct. The leading edge was definitely sharp enough to slice your arm, I know. I scored a test flight in a D model. Best experience of my life!

[@knifeandtomahawkthrowersac7484]

My favorite! Thanks for posting this video. They had an F104 on static display when I was at Lackland. I drooled every time I walked by!

[@tracym1208]

This plane is TO COOL = AND THE SOUNDS ARE ASTONISHING... WHATS NOT TO LOVE = SHES GOT IT ALL...

[@chocolatte6157]

Love that plane. Tough to fly though. Many met their maker after losing control. I’m not a pilot, but have always been an airplane guy. I first saw this plane in a picture in an encyclopedia when I was in fifth grade in 1968. In the photograph, it was on the ground being loaded with belt ammunition. Looked wicked.

[@steveham2622]

Yep , there is not a lot of control surfaces on these planes...

[@udo230FL]

Wow, the Sound, that entire various background noise is outstanding!

[@williamboyd3831]

The F 104 program paid my rent for 5 years! I was on the MAP program from the proposal! I got to see a lot of Europe and meet a lot of neat people! the Germans down at Luke were the best pilots and men I've known in my life!

[@MegaRalf1966]

A Wonderful Plane. The Sound is great. This Plane where very long time in the German Luftwaffe. I see very many F104 in the 1980 and 1990 time.

[@WildPhotoShooter]

Beautiful aircraft, fabulous shape and the paint job is fantastic.

[@HansMueller661]

This reminds me of my childhood, we had a f104 base close to our house. The sound I will never forget. I wanted to become a fighte pilot too but was not accepted.

[@fancypantz66]

My first and only flight in a jet fighter was in the F104-F trainer flying over the Pacific from Itazuke AFB (Now Fukuoka Internatioal Airport) to Tokyo with my squadron commander . He Scared the crap out of me demonstrating the capabilities of this beautiful bird.

[@nonamenameless5495]

Thank you so very much for sharing this, the beauty and sound of this aircraft is just moving

[@Xrm150]

Your welcome and thank you for watching!

[@bobcrawford5083]

Anything from the mind of Kelly Johnson always breaks records..ie" SR-71

[@se7enmax]

I saw two of these aircraft flying low in formation at an airshow at Prestwick airport in Scotland back in the early 70's When they were out of sight of the airfield they made a sound that made the hair on the back of your neck stand up. It was spooky and weird. I have never heard an aircraft like it. Unfortunately I never heard it here on the video. Hats off to all the people keeping this fantastic aircraft alive for future generations to enjoy. Thanks Xrm150

[@Xrm150]

I have a another video titled f104 turning radius how big is it? Or something like that. It did make a different sound. Maybe it was similar

[@se7enmax]

@@Xrm150 Another highlight back in the day when I had a full set of piano keys in white was two squadrons of English Electric Lightnings being scrambled from RAF Leuchars in Fife. The exact number I can't recall but it was more than 12. They were no more than 50 feet away as they approached the runway. Modern Health and Safety would never allow this now. My hearing is still good after all the years of abuse going to airshows and standing listening to bands like Thin Lizzie and others at the Marquee Club in London.

[@Astrofrank]

One of the most appealing planes ever made - thank you for this video.

[@Herzankerkreuz67]

Most iconic silhouette of a fighter ever 👍

[@WestCoastWheelman]

What a classic design - it's literally just a jet engine (one of the best ever made to boot) with a dude on the front and just barely enough wings to keep it pointing the right way.

[@maxplanck2542]

I had never seen an F-104 do a flight demo before. With those stubby wings I was beginning to doubt whether they could even fly. Spectacular!

[@michaelvrooman5681]

Nothing compares to a top notch military pilot putting his machine through it's paces. Well Done Sir!

[@you99tubejimking]

Now that's how you make a great action video on KZbin!!! Perfect "no music or talking" format. I hope others learn from your excellent presentation!

[@mr.hainie2543]

Ahhhhhh, the sound of FREEDOM!! Great video, thank you!

[@Xrm150]

Your very welcome.

[@synaptik111]

Awesome!! Another Kelly Johnson special!! Thanks for putting this up

[@cameraman655]

Decades later, it still looks futuristic, great design Kelly, you and Skunkworks were ahead of your time.

[@dennisweifenbach2647]

Thanks for this video of one of my favorite aircraft. Excellent soundtrack, everything that I wanted or needed to hear.

[@jeffcharlton9660]

Another masterpiece by Kelly Johnson and the LSW. Agree with the others here. Great camera work.

[@chuckbrasch4575]

Thanks for a great video. It brought back fond memories of Edwards AFB, where I used to work in 1962 on the X-15 project. The 104's were used as chase planes for the X-15 flights. I'll never forget the sound of those J-79's... gave me 'chills' when I watched......

[@Xrm150]

You're welcome.

[@backpackerthrulife8497]

Xrm 150 Best flying video of F-104 I've seen- gets the heart pounding. Thx

[@Xrm150]

Thank you =)

[@garry1214]

Thank you for posting. I enjoyed with no music or talking. One nice demo.

[@Xrm150]

+Garry Temple your welcome

[@EricPalmerBlog]

The performance numbers for this aircraft were crazy. USAF and Norway when used as high altitude interceptors, used them with a pressure suit for the pilot. Example: going well above Mach 1 at 77,000ft, with good fuel economy. Calculate the effective ground speed (time--distance) !!!!!!!!!!

[@FourMaxK1]

Beautiful!! I recall two things about this great plane - the networks would sign off at night with video of the 104 and scrolling across the screen was: "...though I slipped the surly bonds of Earth...". Secondly I remember that other countries had a hard time with the Starfighter because of it's aerodynamics and the skill level required to fly it. What a wonderful aircraft!

[@darthstanley166]

One of the best silhouettes in the air! Classic design.

[@donkeyearrs]

What a beautiful old 104

[@bengaarder2972]

Another example of the brilliant Kelly Johnson's work.

[@spuds416]

I was Stationed in Germany 81 to 83 Starfighters used to follow the Rhine and Mosel rivers on the "Deck" love the Howl

[@bassisacalling]

Wow! I never realized what a beautiful aircraft this is until now!

[@okrajoe]

Such a classic, sleek fighter.

[@deeremeyer1749]

Yeah. Right. Like "interceptors" aren't "fighters". If I'm not mistaken the vaunted English Electric Lighting is an "interceptor" and supposedly performed a "stern conversion intercept" on or of a Concorde. The "legend" is that no modern U.S. fighter plane - F-16, F-14, F-15 etc "managed it". Of course its hard to "manage" something you don't try and playing around with passenger planes pretending they're "targets" is about the speed of children who brag about accomplishing things nobody else is stupid enough to try and the immaturity is just amplified by creating clever little statements that imply U.S. aircraft that would smoke a fucking Lightning from 50 miles out before that pilot of that piece of shit even had the gear up. Sure are lots of aircraft and aerial combat "experts" who talk shit about anything and everything American and can't make enough documentaries and KZbin videos about antique Anglo dogshit but damned if any of those "superior' British planes have EVER flown an HOUR in actual AERIAL COMBAT OR WITHIN A THOUSAND MILES OF AN "AIR WAR" while every American plane they trash has multiple air-to-air kills. Funny thing is how its gotten nothing but more and more dangerous to fuck with anything that has "US" and starts with "F" as long as there have BEEN planes with those characteristics and the Brits haven't fought anything but a Phoney War with their badass "fighters" and haven't built an airplane all by themselves since the 50s and are kings of the fucking airshow and "flypast" but other than that you mainly find all their aerial excellence in the airheads of their fanboys. Really funny when they talk shit about F-104s and trot out the Widowmaker bullshit and use the German example when the Italians managed to fly their F-104s for 30+ years and didn't lose ONE. You can run along now, little boy. Fighter or interceptor is just semantics and an F-104 will be there faster and end the fight faster than anything the Europeans ever "joint ventured" into existence. There's nothing faster on the planet to 100,000 feet and 1500 mph than an F-104 and never will be. The Germans managed to fly them into the ground so effectively and well they crashed four at the same time once trying a formation takeoff with four F-104s in a "cluster" and if that's not asking for four funerals I don't know what is. And if THAT makes F-104s "Widowmakers", I can show you plenty of much better "deathtraps" from THAT side of the pond. Let's start here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Harrier_Jump_Jet_family_losses Now we can go here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_English_Electric_Lightning And we can finish up here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Vulcan#Accidents_and_incidents Unless you'd like to keep talking out of your ass, that is.

[@johncreasy5286]

More like a coffin with wings.

[@junkers66]

??? Have you ever seen a U-2? A U-2 fuselage (if that is what you mean with airframe) looks completely different to the F-104 fuselage.

[@hshs5756]

Have you ever read the history of the F-104 and the U-2? It's a well-known fact that the U-2 was developed in record time, secretly, by building it around the engine and airframe of the F-104. The external appearance of the U-2 changed from the 104, but the guts were the same. Look again at both of them, side by side if you can. The intakes are the best giveaway.

[@chrisbaker2903]

Ian Mangham It's pretty obvious you know very little about the F-104. It was designed by Kelly Johnson to be a lightweight single purpose fighter. The only well known problem it had was when the Germans re-engined theirs with bigger, hotter engines that those air-frames were not updated properly to handle. The F-104 came out at a time when the Air Force was being controlled by Robert McNamara who had a fetish for multi-role aircraft. As a single purpose aircraft it did it's job remarkably well. Heh, give me speed over turn rates any time. The ability to run away is crucial to the ability to control an engagement. Check out the tactics of Chenault's Flying tigers if you don't believe me. They shot down a crap ton of japanese planes with a slower, less maneuverable P-40 because it had one really big advantage. It could come screaming through the Japanese formation, shoot down a plane and keep going in a high speed diving attack. The Zero's couldn't keep up and so could not fight. The F-104 was fast but it was also much more maneuverable than you seem to know. It won in dogfights against several more "modern" fighters such as the F-4. Johnson was intending to put up a modernized version as a new aircraft to compete for the F-15 contract and was told, "don't bother, McDonald Douglas is going to get the contract.". Stupid politicians. They're a plague on the world.

[@GnonplussedGnome]

Nothing on earth sounds or smokes like the J79, Liked seeing speed brakes open when he turned. and First bird to mount the 20mm Vulcan

[@jaik195701]

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[@Tubesmaney]

What a graceful and beautiful aircraft. Especially like that this vid has no music or talking. Thanks for that.

[@Xrm150]

Your very welcome! Thank you for watching.

[@davetscantech]

Still one of my favourites, had a model of one of these when I was a kid.

[@MultiCappie]

Kelly Johnson: under-rated American genius.

[@einar8019]

i mean becides that it crashed about every 3 days

[@Xrm150]

Well when you don't use it the right way... sure... it will crash.

[@StereoSpace]

I was at an airshow a few years where one of the performed. The moment I remember was when it came down the runway, very low, on full afterburner. There was an an exhaust plume of blue-orange fire filled with shock diamonds about 30 feet long. Really cool.

[@MrVictoria69]

Starfighter way ahead of its time. Just mind boggling to think this thing came out in the 50's!

[@kevenneely8631]

My father was an instructor at Luke AF. He taught a lot of the German pilots. But even today, I can tell the sound of the F-104 & F-100. As well as the Vulcan 20mm gun.

[@Fudmottin]

USAF: We need a fast fighter-interceptor. Skunk Works: Hold our beer.

[@AugmentedGravity]

The 104 was not a product of Skunk Works.

[@default123default2]

Tried to out mig 21 the mig 21

[@justforever96]

In its original use that phrase meant that person was about to do something really stupid. Don't know how people are using it today, probably most of them don't even understand the origins of the phrase. But you're basically insulting Lockheed.

[@FRGBlackBurn]

@@justforever96 these days this phrase evolved to basically say someone is going to do something impressive, it's rarely being used with someone doing something stupid

[@Xrm150]

Depends on what accent you read it with 😀

[@TheDavcrz5]

Its faster than F35 by over 200mph and almost as fast as F22 and that's from fighter over 60yrs old. Truly amazing Aircraft and to me one of the most stunning jet fighter ever built.

[@umbertocantelli2688]

trust me...much faster than f22....

[@Heli4213]

Finally a great video with no talking thank god or music

[@paulm5197]

Some years ago at a local aviation show an F-15 flew by at nearly mach 1. We were headed for our car at the time but I watched my 13-year-old daughter stop and jump with joy as the airplane flashed by. She became an instant fan of F-15s.

[@mistertagnan]

They are one of my favorite aircraft

[@stainedinblack]

and mine since i knew what jets were.

[@catholicseymour292]

Designed by Kelly Johnson. Its maiden flight was in 1954 and flys at about Mach 2. Just 9 years after WW II.

[@Kneedragon1962]

I read a really interesting interview with Kelly,where they started by asking about re-enginning F-5 into F-20s and such. He liked the idea, and went on to say that an F100 or F110 in a Starfighter would give all the (then current) F series fighters a nighmare or two. It might not be quite care-free in terms of handling, you might need to be a little bit well trained & switched on, but Kelly was quite adamant it would perform, not just climb or go fast, but turn as well.

[@4168033000]

Just think, only 9 years after WW2, At that time the P-51 was the top dog. Interesting fact. Thanks!

[@raynus1160]

PATTACAT For speed, the Me 262 had a 100mph advantage over the Mustang.

[@JimMcDade_Exploration]

The jet of my dreams. I would pretend that my bike was an F-104 when I was 10 years old.Thanks for sharing. I still dream about this great plane.

[@BillFromTheHill100]

I'm still doing that 😛

[@JamchesterBoozle]

One of the coolest planes I’ve ever seen! And what a cool paint job 👌🏻

[@billwilliams7566]

THANK YOU for "no music or talking." :) So many videos of this type are ruined by talking or music. The sound of the fabulous plane is all we need.

[@Xrm150]

You're welcome =)