The Best Hand Cannon Is Finally Back... (Not Forgotten Is S Tier)

[@MelancholicSeraph]

"You're as beautiful as the day I lost you."

[@flgrnd]

Inquisitor is like the free sample spot in a grocery store. "Hey would you like a free headshot?"

[@JohnSmith-uf3yn]

You playing iron banner & reviewing the new crimil dagger? Wonder what your thoughts are on the new enhancable perk pool

[@seanflexinn]

Man my dawg really came up from Nba 2k20

[@EreptileDysfunction]

Been missing your content bro good to se you back 👍

[@Sm00vPenguin]

The new MH perk is horrible in comparison to the old set-up. I'm glad I have the gun back, but I definitely miss the old 180 RPM Magnificent Howl combo. It was even a problem for the PVE bosses lol

[@IOSALive]

Gravlyy, you're on fire with your videos

[@Blitzkrieg311]

I love the NF gameplay man! So glad it’s back on the menu!

[@FujiwaraDF]

I didn't knew anything about this hand cannon but let's be honest XD is good cause that Precision Frame is making the recoil so easy to control + visually also is way lower than normal adaptive frames and Rose's lightweight frame

[@BIayde]

It’s because of zen moment other wise reprised Luna is better.

[@i-manic1292]

I feel like it just provides more easy of use for less skilled players. The handling and lightweight frame on rose will be more valuable in the higher skilled lobbies. This version of nf is worse than it was before they reworked the perk.

[@IlyEvade]

wake up babe gravlyy posted another video

[@kensmart1766]

Yeah man....this is why I subscribed to you...

[@Axe01994]

Sup bro. Its been a lot Ok , as a PVP main like you. How is the crucible now ? I dont have final shape , so as a free to play , im main striker titan. Can i compete against all prismatic people using my all viable normal builds , and loadouts actually ?

[@Gravlyy]

I don’t use prismatic at all so you def can. I don’t think it’s as broken as some of the other stuff that’s been added imo.

[@Axe01994]

Ok , thats a good thing. Thanks For the data

[@professorvalk]

Zen moment is good but idk about best. I love QuickDraw

[@Gravlyy]

QD isn’t as useful imo especially not on HCs

[@jcallion7099]

I was waiting for your return

[@sweatyspookz]

No special Diddy feature this time? Dang 😆

[@Gravlyy]

Diddy not in the lobby unfortunately… or fortunately idk if I want him in there 💀

[@Skipps933]

How about they just change the recoil of the gun? I'd love this weapon so much if it had just normal 140 recoil, I never understood changing how a gun works but not Suttle changes with it like recoil

[@colemaggard6379]

are you still able to get it? if so how?

[@AxisChurchDevotee]

0:18 Igneous Hammwe would like a word.

[@Gravlyy]

Old igneous is the best HC in the game imo

[@AxisChurchDevotee]

@@Gravlyy Knowing I kept my old QuickDraw/celerity and killing wind/ e capacitor will never stop bringing me joy.

[@grub9230]

@@AxisChurchDevotee is it that much better? I’ve got a Killing Wind / Rampage roll and it feels nice but I thought the new one dogs it?

[@AxisChurchDevotee]

@@grub9230 Rampage is meh. You're mainly looking for performance perks.

[@technoburst6719]

180s precision frame are my favorite top 4% in trials when I am regularly playing and I do take them into trials and comp and I love Luna and NF I am so happy there back!!!

[@i-manic1292]

I was too 1% trials and top 500 rumble before I quit. Tbh I’m sad to see the state they rereleased these in. I would have rather seen original mag howl on rose or something. That would have been op tho.

[@technoburst6719]

@@i-manic1292 that’s awesome! I get they had to balance it out some there some good parings to 1-2 tap after 1 kill with mag howl. There’s still a lot good with PvP and a lot wrong it’s in a fair state overall though. Right now there so many people (start of a new season) so PvP feels what it should be. Trials was easy this week.

[@thenexus7343]

Yeah I think everyone hates on 180's too much cus of ttk. But as 120's prove. Ttk isn't everything. Some 180's can punch out at 35 to 36 meters which is pulse range. And will out range 140's. And peak shots on 180's are probs underated. I hust hate the recoil.

[@papaspaulding]

@@thenexus7343 people put too much stock on ttk value as they presume they are hitting that optimal ttk value every duel yet when do you ever see a top 1% player with 100% accuracy on their weapon stat? lol. I'll always go with weapons in which I can hit most of my crits as even if it has a lower ttk value ultimately my ttk is faster than the alternative

[@papaspaulding]

@@thenexus7343 the new vex 180 sightline survey can get upto 96 range (36.96 meters) with fragile focus and opening shot

[@CollaateraL]

Good to have ya back bro

[@axe2grind244]

Anyone notice that Zavala had NF pointed at his ghost when he was pleading with him to bring his son back. Zavala is a Better Devils main so you know this was serious lol.

[@i-manic1292]

Is rose not the best handcannon anymore? I’ve been gone for 6 months. Even when nf could 2 head one body rose was better. Seems like they made mag howl worse…

[@Gravlyy]

Never liked rose ngl. Stats are pretty mid and there are better options imo.

[@i-manic1292]

That’s fair, for me it has the stats I care about most and slideshot supplements the range and stability but I know you don’t like slideshot. Really the high handling and aim assist and it being the only lightweight frame is why I consider it the best. This game is all about movement imo.

[@Gravlyy]

@@i-manic1292 Yeah if you like Slide it's def the best, I just don't like anything that messes with my stability tbh

[@i-manic1292]

Just redownloaded d2 after 6 months and found out I could enhance my rose. enhanced slideshot and opening shot. And the bonus from being lvl 20 it has 70 range, 64 stability, 87 handling they just powercrept it so hard. Every .3 seconds 95 range is crazy 100 range with opening shot then slide into 95 range it’s nuts.

[@augosyx]

NF/LH will forever be the most awkward weapon to use for a 140 family. If only they changed the new Luna to an actual 140 animation wise but either I learn to git gud with it or just vault it.

[@Gravlyy]

Definitely feel that, not a fan of 180 recoil in the slightest.

[@thenexus7343]

Yeah, I'd prefer it to be an actual 140. And the mag howl can still two tap with two stacks, maybe the benifit is that it can 2 head 1 body. I'd be okay with that.

[@kensmart1766]

Next video please...

[@Oplix]

It's really weird how you can just buy it with glimmer.

[@kensmart1766]

What...your starting out the video w 2 deaths.....

[@Gravlyy]

I’m ass with the guns recoil, had to show the character development 💀

[@kostistsiutras4373]

now remove the ophidians and let me know what u think

[@Gravlyy]

Every class can get the ophidian buff, hunter also has speedloaders and DS to make it work. There are a plethora of work arounds for the handling.

[@vaeyalovesyou]

ever since centered crosshair came to console, i’m so caught off guard when i see old console crosshair😭

[@Gravlyy]

BRO I forgot that was a thing. I took a break for like 7 months 💀

[@vaeyalovesyou]

@@Gravlyy for me personally, it helped me with centering issues i’d have in gunfights. highly recommend. it’ll be weird at first tho😆

[@Taylor_Lifts]

Didn’t see a single person using it in Trials

[@Gravlyy]

Why would you use a HC in trials that isn’t a 120?

[@Taylor_Lifts]

⁠​⁠@@Gravlyycalls it S tier in the title and takes it into crucible to show how good it is. Calls it a top 3 HC, then asks why would you take it into Trials 🤡

[@Gravlyy]

@@Taylor_Lifts cause why would you? I think it’s S tier for 140s, but 120s are just better. Do you want me to sit here and lie to you? There isn’t a single 140 that’s on the level of something like Igneous Hammer in trials. 140s are arguably better for quickplay and that’s it.

[@Taylor_Lifts]

@@Gravlyy Rose? Rose has top 8 usage in Trials this week right behind Igneous. Besides who’s playing quick play? It’s either Comp or Trials.

[@Gravlyy]

@@Taylor_Lifts rose is good, but still not on igneous level for comp/trials. Old igneous having celerity just makes it clear pretty much any HC