That's a funny way to say that two bear tanks two resto druids 3 cats and 3 boomies is the ultimate 10man comp
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
Haha i would agree with that comp as a druid lover
@roujin518 Жыл бұрын
The amount of BRs alone makes this comp perfect
@Nilzalot Жыл бұрын
Now that is something I would love to see
@Mirage0153 Жыл бұрын
Orange is the new BiS @@Scottejaye
@varsande Жыл бұрын
Someone needs to do this and post it on youtube for all to see
@laavaz8150 Жыл бұрын
imo I'd swap the hunter for an unholy and the assassination rogue for a combat rogue since 4% physical is pretty big and combat doesn't lose as much dps as assassination when exposing
@andromidius Жыл бұрын
Also Combat does great cleave, which is important on certain fights.
@TheZannyuu Жыл бұрын
@@andromidius Such is Assassination with just a bit of talents into the combat tree that unlocks Blade Flurry.
@motiv3949 Жыл бұрын
@@TheZannyuu even BF Assa is much weaker aoe than Combat
@Mysticalmetal Жыл бұрын
Not to mention, for this comp specifically the Assa rogue would be lacking in dmg since no bleed debuff applied by any members of the raid. 8% dmg from HfB is huge
@conorf8091 Жыл бұрын
SV hunter is better than both these specs on any fight over 60 seconds
@Ali-sc6dh Жыл бұрын
One thing about sindragosa : The more melee you have the less caster you have that can get unchained magic. Therefore you risk your healers constantly getting unchained magic which will make it very hard to heal the raid.
@Dudeidunno Жыл бұрын
Prot pally & Blood DK can both solo tank Sindragosa using bubble/AMS to reset stacks. You also mentioned Warlocks making Valkyr redundant but it's worth noting that Hunters and Combat Rogues can also make Valkyr redundant. Hunters can disengage back on after being dropped and rogues can hold Killing Spree and follow the Valkyr back onto the platform on Heroic.
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
Knew about hunters but gotta be honest never even thought about combat rogues doing that with KS, good info mate cheers
@kristijan8518 Жыл бұрын
Skipping valks as hunter and mage is going to depend on the coding. From private servers experience, you weren't able to use any spells (stunned) until you were bellow the platform.
@KingZerver Жыл бұрын
You can blink it now with this code
@icebox1954 Жыл бұрын
That's pretty big brained about Killing Spree. Thanks for that.
@pb34r46 Жыл бұрын
Bruv you’re legit gifted at communication and transferring knowledge. I’m sure you prep, but it also seems like it just comes naturally. Everything from tone and cadence to the actual content, all top tier. Keep up the great work!
@williamferguson1817 Жыл бұрын
Combat rogue over the assa/unholy. The expose armor and 4% physical damage is still benefiting the rogue, Ret, hunter and both tanks. Between that and the tricks damage/utility I believe the combat comes out ahead.
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
yep defo see that mate
@willywunder0648 Жыл бұрын
Just simming sv hunter with/without armor reduction is a 500 dps difference, Assa is 400 dps(Combat 1000 dps), Ret around 300. Thats a lot of damage
@d0718 Жыл бұрын
Any other mage mains? 👁️👄👁️
@roboturner Жыл бұрын
Not even a passing mention lol
@SoleroStrike Жыл бұрын
My guild doesn’t have a reliable Boomie Druid so we’d probably bring in a fire mage instead for 10’s lol.
@BaseSRKI Жыл бұрын
@@roboturnerI noticed that too >< FM and INT are nice 🎉
@Muddyowns Жыл бұрын
Meeee
@carstenkoppelmann6409 Жыл бұрын
@@roboturnerso disrespectful 😂
@johnd3901 Жыл бұрын
I would have a prot warrior OT for LK HM, can dispel own enrages without help, can Shockwave valks, and most importantly safeguard 30% dmg reduction EVERYTIME a 50k + hit from the LK is coming phase 3. Oh also commanding shout helps that as well
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
Yep good shout mate
@Rickeg Жыл бұрын
I see what you did there ;)@@Scottejaye
@Moonvenger Жыл бұрын
I dont think warriors have an enrage dispel, only a magic dispel.
@Draco69lord Жыл бұрын
How does prot warrior dispell enrage?
@Centan1234 Жыл бұрын
@@Draco69lord Maaaybe enraged regeneration? Consumes a rage effect on yourself to activate
@Versachiful Жыл бұрын
I like the way you made this comp step by step, well done!
@bobthydead Жыл бұрын
As the #1 resto druid in my house, I am offended by the end of this video. I expect a full apology, written in blood, by the end of the week. k thx
@AmideusTV Жыл бұрын
Another benefit of the shadow priest that is sometimes overlooked is that they are a rather tanky ranged dps option, particularly for Heroic Saurfang. They can mitigate a lot of the mark damage passively from Inner Fire and Shadowform, providing a better soak in addition to the bonus heals.
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
Find me now streaming here -❯ www.kick.com/scottejaye Thought it was worth a mention after spending a decent amount of time looking at the comp and talking to a good friend Mr Stark, if you leave the ret paladin in then the hunter doesn't need to run replenishment so can bring a higher dps spec. Also, when i said Dark Pact i meant demonic pact - Think i was getting excited reading about dark intent rom cata today and sindra's ability is unchained not unstable :P Maybe i should of had some notes in front of me instead of sat in the bar having a beer lol Consider joining the channel as a member to support my work and keep me pumping out that content - kzbin.info/door/yMNUoiD0vlmFtiriDtVI5Qjoin Remember to pick up your leveling and gold guides from Rested XP here (HARDCORE Guides up now aswell!) www.restedxp.com/ref/scottejaye/
@KH-id2hr Жыл бұрын
We one-tanked Marrowgar without any trouble on 10m H, he was hitting me for about 15k, as long as healers are ABC it was fine.
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
aye so could have the prot go ret for that and lose nothing but gained alot of DPS, haven't tried 1 tanking myself though
@jamesbyrd3740 Жыл бұрын
wtf is abc
@KH-id2hr Жыл бұрын
@@jamesbyrd3740 "always be casting"
@Mirage0153 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesbyrd3740 Always be casting
@Patruskarn Жыл бұрын
@@jamesbyrd3740 "Always-Be-Casting" I belive
@fizin1 Жыл бұрын
I love that engine oil in the bar. If you run out of everything else there is always that lol.
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
best gin everrrrr!!
@zihenghe7462 Жыл бұрын
eleshaman is kinda here only for lust. I don't mind swap ele to enhance and have a prot/fury for the commanding and sander
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
yep defo could work mate
@implodingfruitz8093 Жыл бұрын
You do have to chose between 20% melee haste or 5% spell haste with that comp though unless you drop the prot pally
@jamiehart7292 Жыл бұрын
Ele is great to have as they tend to have better resto off specs than enhance players and you want to 3 heal some hc bosses week 1, like Bloodqueen.
@jamiehart7292 Жыл бұрын
Also better to not make the boomie go resto, for the spell hit on boss. The only time we're making boomie heal over the sham is Sindi for hots in the tombs.
@roujin518 Жыл бұрын
agreed, you would probably gain more from an enhance shammy for the imp strength of earth totem and could then replace the rogue since you don't need interrupts with another class that provides better buffs or get a cat for another BR.
@Connor-Chi Жыл бұрын
I would bring an arcane mage in 10m just for intellect buff and another ranged, ranged are good on pretty much every fight that has any movement (for the 3% dmg)
@Redouan13 Жыл бұрын
Funny that you name one of the if not worst ranged with movement. What can arcane do while moving exactly? 1 stack AB cast and a fire blast that hits like a wet noodle. Boomie/Lock/Spriest/Fire/Hunter yes Arcane/Ele are very bad with movement?
@ChanJustWon Жыл бұрын
@@Redouan13im psure he's meaning in the context that a melee would lose uptime to moving and a ranged wouldnt have to move
@Redouan13 Жыл бұрын
@@ChanJustWon doesnt really count for ICC tho. Ranged have to move a lot as well and have a lot of responsibilities in there. Picking arcane just doesnt make sense even if thats what he means. Can better get another ranged than or even a ret for the 3% buff.
@meta7442 Жыл бұрын
Fury warrior, mage, feral druid, affli lock and unh dk are must to bring(at least 1 or 2 in one 10man) because these guys will carry guilds in 25man hc with that 10man loot
@roujin518 Жыл бұрын
So this is actually pretty close to my groups 10m setup only we have a cat instead of a rogue, and our ret pally acts as double duty for the 2nd tank spot rather than a blood tank. (hunter is survival for the 10% ap buff) and an affliction lock/Spriest/mage/frost dk for the last spot. The 2 Battle rez's are amazing and on tough fights having 2 Soul Stones have been pretty clutch in 10m. Our only issue is really that we often only get the 16% windfurry and miss out on 5% spell haste. We have from time to time swapped in a frost dk>affliction lock, but sadly my group is mostly built around who decides to show up and still needs gear from 10m rather than min/maxing raid comps.
@andreaskarlsson5251 Жыл бұрын
Ive been trying to get something like this but playing on a server with only 3k players on horde side makes it quite the difficult task. xD Not only do i need to find me a regular shammy, i need to convince my lock that demonology is as fun as affliction somehow. xD
@roujin518 Жыл бұрын
@@andreaskarlsson5251 personally I like demon better. Doesn't do as much personal DMG, but the overall DMG for the raid is better. Also more personal survival.
@doncorleone1720 Жыл бұрын
Good that survival hunter doesnt have 10% ap buff lol
@therealcornholio2583 Жыл бұрын
frost dk's are trash.
@roujin518 Жыл бұрын
@@therealcornholio2583 kinda need them for the windfury buff. The other options are enhance shammy or just don't run melee in your 10m.
@naomile6789 Жыл бұрын
Our comp for 10 man is 1 prot pally, 1 blood dk, 1 ele shaman, 1 fire/arcane mage, 1 frost/unholy dk, 1 combat rogue, 1 surv hunter, 1 destro lock(rotate out for boomie druid when they can't make it, 1 holy pally and 1 holy priest, we also have another boomie who fills when we need it, but all of us have multiple toons we can rotate in and out to fit what we need when we need it
@djmlax89 Жыл бұрын
Our comp hasn't changed since P1 and is very similar to what you have, except we run an Rdruid instead of the Unholy DK and our priest is shadow (w/ flex to Disc when needed)
@DerpingtonTM87 Жыл бұрын
The comp I lead for my 10 man's I lead hit pretty much most of the things you're recommending. We run a Prot Warrior/Pali (depending on how he feels), and Blood DK for tanking, Disc Priest and Holy Paladin healers, our balance druid mains resto so he swaps when needed, and then we do Enhancemenr Shaman, Fury Warror, Demo lock, feral druid and me on Hunter (though I go MM for extra interrupt and the physical damage buff since my dps isn't that far behind me playing survival) Glad to hear we don't have to change a whole lot, and I'll say I really like having 2 druids since with soulstone and those 2, we get 3 battle rezzes in 10 man.
@Raviantz Жыл бұрын
Is that a website at 5:28? if yes, could I please have a link for it? Thank you!
@chainclaw07 Жыл бұрын
So... this is why healbot is a necessary add on. The game itself doesn't show you 1. Debuffs on raidbars. 2. Context buttons for dispelling certain things. So in the base game healers need to either monitor each member by switching between them or have coms and callouts as a coordinated team... 3. What certain debuffs do, so you need to research all possible outcomes and train how to react to them, mostly through watching walkthroughs
@bicarbxd Жыл бұрын
Switch Assassination for Combat, extra 4% physical damage and expose armor.
@DejaytheDuck Жыл бұрын
Few things you missed for Hunters Boss 2 Lady Hunter uses Viper on her to drain mana and distract shot the deform Fanatics and kite and kill also Boss 4 Saurfang Slow trap for Blood Boils
@thomaswingren1359 Жыл бұрын
You get way more value with a warrior tank + 1 prot pally then 2 pallys, you get sunders, off specc dps and buffs.
@afscrew123 Жыл бұрын
Not being able to kill LK cuz warrior on floor doesnt sound like good value to me
@Bigbeer Жыл бұрын
Got rank @15 eu with this COMP: Prot pala > Prot warr> Frost dk> Feral > Ret(os Holy for dreamwalker) > hunter > boomie > elesham(resto os for sindra) Hpala and disc (ideally u swap prot warr for blood dk but he was irl friend so had to make it work) had chance for world first but had 41 whipes on LK
@Dazaroy4445 Жыл бұрын
We Going, Prot Paly and Prot war, Holy paly and Resto Druid. Demo Lock, Combat Rogue, Boomy druid, Enh Shammy, Fire mage and a Shadow Priest. Ready to kill LK week 1
@alexpat2502 Жыл бұрын
Blood dk offtank with his spec into improved icy talons is a must IMO. Lol i commented too early and you added one in mid video haha.
@hedvathegamer Жыл бұрын
I would very much prefer taking Arcane mage over Retribution paladin for 3% dmg aura as 2 paladings are just enough and the rest of mage toolkit will ad up better.
@meklavier4664 Жыл бұрын
For Sindragosa Fight is Frost Protection Potion A MUST?
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
I've never used a frost protection potion nor has our raid on 10 or 25 man, i raided with a chinese guild the 2nd round of PTR though and some of them were using them, i still didnt lol
@smmwise Жыл бұрын
Id DEFINETILY swap disc priest for rshaman , mainly because who wants a eleshaman kek. We better have a spriest for more sustain and better damage on fights like sindy. Spriest can also soak spirits in lk which is huge.
@kinggrantking Жыл бұрын
I would probably just add that a DK, somewhere, is all but required whether that be dps or OT or flex, and that because of the huge amount of hit gear the shadow/boomie requirement is all but waived; all casters should at this point have a gear set that makes up for the lack of 3% hit. That should give mages, rogues, warriors, anyone left out in this guide free to take another dps spot. Warrior especially as a warrior/DK combo that flex in and out of OT/mdps is super strong.
@leg0ua Жыл бұрын
Hi mate, what wa or addon are you use, cd boss spells?
@brutalit0ps702 Жыл бұрын
10/10 Will watch again!
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
@ryananderson586 Жыл бұрын
Unholy over rogue all day. Grips/strangulate/chains all are actually massive in this raid.
@philipglasgow3307 Жыл бұрын
I would bring Frost DK instead for the melee haste as the shaman is going to be dropping spell haste.
@simfun2050 Жыл бұрын
@@philipglasgow3307blood tank got it already. Frost is kinda useless at this point
@philipglasgow3307 Жыл бұрын
Yeah good point, hadn't thought of that.@@simfun2050
@jick4875 Жыл бұрын
thoughts on bringing a spriest with OS holy.. Holy would be beneficial for Dreamwalker with GS. Then just move Ele the Resto?
@Perry2186 Жыл бұрын
this a good example of why they should change hunter pets to the cata model let pets bring diffrent buffs every hunter pretty much had to bring a wolf
@crohnsy Жыл бұрын
Sure give mage time warp while you’re at it. Classic plus after Cata!
@QPoily Жыл бұрын
Ehh, the reason why hunters were given pets that could fill in raidbuffs is because there wasn't much reason to bring them otherwise. In WotLK there very much is a reason to bring them since threat can still be quite a problem at times which Misdirection helps out with a ton. In ICC in particular there are also a lot of mechanics that you'll want to bring a hunter for in order to counter them. Marrowgar flame baiting, LDW stair add MDing, DBS frost trap placing, BPC kinetic orb duty, VDW Blistering Zombie kiting, on Sindragosa they might not have any specific role however they're the only spec in the game that doesn't have to stop DPS in order to reset their debuff since they don't get any, and on LK they're mandatory for Tranq Shotting the Enrages on the Shambling Horrors. Also on PP if necessary they're able to take a tank stack in p3 with Distracting Shot and Deterrence. On LK they're also able to do this. Distract Shot > Deterrence right after Shadow Reaper to counter the Att speed steroid if your group requires it in a pinch.
@afscrew123 Жыл бұрын
4healing sindra makes it childplay on hc, removes any rng on unchained magic and tombs in last phase. Berserk timer is very lenient
@Muffnman007 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention, bring your own water and int scrolls because not once did you even say the word, Mage. Mages also have a ranged interrupt, lots of damage, mobility, CC, blink and ice block for adds and if you want the buff you can force them to play arcane and give the 3% damage buff :)
@zaboomofoo8755 Жыл бұрын
Are 10man and 25man normal modes actually going to be THAT difficult? I keep seeing and hearing mixxed things lol
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
most of 10 heroic is not too bad tbh, its just a few bosses like putri, sindra and LK that will still probably need a fair amount of work
@zaboomofoo8755 Жыл бұрын
@Scottejaye gotcha, on Whitemane I refuse to do GDKPs and I pug a ton and form my own SRs and know I'm gonna have to be really picky on who I bring for the first couple months for this one as it's a new raid for me too 😅 I remember you joining a few of mine in TBC on your priest. It was fun having your live steam up while having you heal in my raids. Hope all is well man :D
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
aye man i still play that priest to this day! I am on mankrik now though All is good cheers, just no lifing WOTLK farrrrr too much lol
@zaboomofoo8755 Жыл бұрын
@Scottejaye so is everyone who watches your content:D let's enjoy it while it lasts! Cheers
@zaboomofoo8755 Жыл бұрын
@@Dreamonology that's good to know thank you!!
@cricketball7037 Жыл бұрын
based on my guilds current roster we have a really geared combat that we will be bringing, my fury warrior which is also really geared, probably an unholy or a ret paladin, demo lock, boomie, either mage or ele if our resto shaman isn't able to raid, a holy pally, resto shaman or disc priest, blood tank and prot pally. that comp would bring meele haste and 10% ap (blood), 5% crit and sunders (fury), 4% physical dmg and expose for the fights you have to change targets (combat), 12% magic dmg from unholy and unholy just pumps as well, spell crit from boomie, and spell power from demo lock. If our resto shaman cant raid we have an ele shaman and a disc priest that can fill so we would rearrange our comp around that. Hard to bring all the buffs to 10m so would appreciate some feedback on how we can improve the 10m comp.
@pietrobassani6956 Жыл бұрын
Combat rogue instead of assassination??
@greenstomp3096 Жыл бұрын
17:40 the first mention of Enhancement /cry
@benfordrin6978 Жыл бұрын
What is that tool that you use to select the setup? Can you tell me please where to get/use this?
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
wrathraidcomp
@benfordrin6978 Жыл бұрын
@@Scottejaye thank you
@ryan1264 Жыл бұрын
is that boss ability countdown slider a weakaura?
@BlueMoonLightsUpTheNight Жыл бұрын
Anyone have a link to the sheet he uses to see what buffs you're getting when you put X class in? Thanks!
@estebanslavidastic4382 Жыл бұрын
IMO you should replace survival hunter with warrior, sub the assas rogue for a combat rogue, and then bring in the ret. This way you get replenishment, 4% physical damage, 5% physical crit, melee haste, spell haste. you got everything. plus combat AND fury have great single target with ICC 2/4 sets, INSANE cleave for trash, and they both bring buffs. sunder armour + shattering throw + 4# physical... it all adds up So my final comp: Tanks: Prot Pal, Blood DK with double buff spec Healers: Hpally, Disc priest Ranged: Demo lock, Ele shaman, Balance Druid Melee: Ret paladin, Fury warrior, Combat Rogue EZ CLAP
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
Looks like a solid comp tbh mate for sure
@andreaskarlsson5251 Жыл бұрын
Is there any reasons to not go with 6 ranged dps for example in ICC? Other than wasting a bunch of gear meant for melees. like.. swapping out the melees for 2-3 spriests (im not biased) Edit: other than sindragosa that you just got to after I wrote this lol.
@Juggs_WoW Жыл бұрын
I’m running: Ppal Fury/Prot War Ret Enh Frost DK Hpal Disc Fire Mage Demo Balance
@Avg_Andy Жыл бұрын
From our testing on 10m normal, vile spirits hit like a truck, how do you deal with them without a shadowpriest in the group?
@Colyers Жыл бұрын
Asking an Assa rogue to EA is grief
@paulullmann6359 Жыл бұрын
Finally I feel proud to have mained ele shaman trough the whole expansion. We do rock! 🖖
@Infections95 Жыл бұрын
that bait on the frost mage pic... well played...
@TheMcgreeb Жыл бұрын
Says to grab a beer, grabs a can of piss water....
@mattieguytje6971 Жыл бұрын
They are removing titansteel cd in next patch did u guys catch up on this?
@johnd3901 Жыл бұрын
The real answer though is one of each class that can play all the specs
@adois8755 Жыл бұрын
hunters do not get unchained magic on sindragosa btw so your comp is actually well balanced for that one as well.
@greenxintet1651 Жыл бұрын
Shadow Instead of Disc, Resto druid instead of Balance, unholy dk in place of ret.
@Drelu_ Жыл бұрын
U will struggle without disc, like w lot
@sirielmoiez2407 Жыл бұрын
Ok this is hectic how about this 2 tanks which are pala and dk tank , 2 heals which are hpla and rsham , 3 range which are sp hunter and druid and last 3 meles rouge ret and warrior In case ur struggling on lk u can swap specs between rsham and disco i think thats the optimal combo
@sirielmoiez2407 Жыл бұрын
But tbh i wont need disco if everyone knows what they r doing and u have enough passive’s heals to cover infest and u have enough cds for ur tank
@andromidius Жыл бұрын
Honestly, the BiS comp isn't much different to how its been all expansion - Paladin tank, DK or Warrior OT/DPS, Holy Paladin, Disc Priest, Resto/Balance Druid, Shaman (preferably with Resto offspec, but not required), Mage, Warlock and maybe Hunter. The last spot can be for another DK or Warrior DPS or Rogue. Basically, one of everything and no stacking. Or, conversely, go for Spellcleave and then cry on Sindragosa.
@andromidius Жыл бұрын
Only thing I'm missing here is a Shadow Priest. They are great, and maybe you can bring one if you don't have a Disc Priest - but I don't think they are truly as necessary as they used to be. And sorry Ret - you shine in 25 man. Maybe you can bring a Ret instead of one of the other melee - though is it necessary?
@BaseSRKI Жыл бұрын
Mage AMP magic on Saurfang?
@felix2315 Жыл бұрын
100% of arms warriors clicked because of the thumbnail edit: and are sad as allways
@mosquito6581 Жыл бұрын
Can you do ICC 10 H mode with no shaman?
@Robin92B Жыл бұрын
Our comp is 2 fury 1 feral 1 fire xD rest is same as your comp, tanks/healers/hunter/lock
@jokutyyppi120 Жыл бұрын
prot pala, blood dk, 6 furywars and rsham + disc.
@tylerlaw8358 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't throw Blood DK's (as dps) under the bus. From most of the DK discords they're going to be pulling ahead vs all other dk specs, especially when paired with a feral>rogue>fury for UHF. Cleave and single target goes nuts for melee between those combos.
@tommyparbst Жыл бұрын
Hmm what would the best comp be with a fire mage then? 😄
@driiifter Жыл бұрын
Back when I raided in original Wrath as Ele, I used to have our top Warlock talk down to me about how the only reason I topped DPS in 10 man is because of raid buffs. Like bro... Can't you just give credit where credit is due? That's part of the reason I can't stand raiding anymore. The meter and buff dissonance. People just suck.
@skyclaw36 Жыл бұрын
i see that rsham hate in the thumbnail! no heals for you!
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
haha
@Schied Жыл бұрын
The most glaring problem with this setup is the lack of overall dps. You stacked this comp to get the most buffs, however that also meant stacking a bunch of mid-tier dps (outside of the UH dk). Those extra buffs will generally not compensate the difference of losing the S-tier dps classes. If you're bringing an ele, I would swap the demo to an aff. Sure, you loose like 300-400 sp (on average), but that aff lock is going to be doing 1000s of more dps than the demo. I would also swap out the ret for a fire mage. It's well known that in 10 mans with longer than ~ 1.5 min kill times that fire does significantly more dps than arcane (including the 3% damage buff for the raid). Since ret is putting out about as much dps as arcane currently, and also isn't scaling much those first few week until they start getting tier and other stuff, it just doesn't make sense to bring them. Plus, by swapping to the aff lock and fire mage, you're also getting powerful execute damage, which is quite good for a lot of these bosses, as they simply take longer to kill and therefore "exist" longer in that execute window. I think you make those two changes, and you're much better off for week 1 heroic kills.
@decai6899 Жыл бұрын
no way, just Loosing Fire ele + the buff, so about 220 spellpower on ele alone is way over 1k dps loss. all the other casters and healers will loose on average 220 spellpower too. You are gimping your group with that. Affli will not do couple thousand more dps in 10 man.
@Crookqt Жыл бұрын
IMO: Hunter (crucial) ||| Shadowpriest / Dk / any shaman / boomie | [1] 1tank os dps // [3] 1dps healer os | ->>>> one hunter to rule them all (for entire run [lk/bpc]), rest are more comfort (much needed comfort), without any->>>> Sweaty in order [rogue not hunter, no extra healer, no lust, no shadow, no boomie, no dk] ->>>> ] ||| Great dmg dealers are firemages etc ||| healers hpala/disc (for new players) ||| not warrior tank (for new players) ||| This is made for entire run, technically didnt acknowledge any paladins(one is enough) in this but you will by default have one paladin in raid because its the icc patch :)
@whoischris28 Жыл бұрын
My guild does not want to do 25m. We have a set 10m team since TOGC launched but no talks of recruiting more players while also having a shit 10m comp with 2 fury warrios
@MassterChieff Жыл бұрын
In 10mans so far the mechanics are very forgiving when compared to 25man. Unless things change drastically, as long as main mechanics are followed you can pretty much dps through. It is a shame composition balancing is a thing, as opposed to bringing what you enjoy to play!
@slenderman1408 Жыл бұрын
Not Close to Bad indeed! Great comp.
@rplieth Жыл бұрын
RIP pumper fire mage not even being mentioned in the video at all lol
@heatrayzvideo3007 Жыл бұрын
Yay now we know you all have to reroll cos if you're not on the list you ain't going.
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
haha its as if i didn't say in the video that every thing here can be changed for something else (imo except for the disc priest on LK)
@hansmartinrysland4313 Жыл бұрын
Why would u ever take a assa rogue? Gives nothing to the comp? Take a combat, for expo glyph, and physical debuff
@rdmqwerty Жыл бұрын
i think one important axis in a 10 man raid comp is loot competition. its nice to have a comp where people dont have to compete against each other on loot. and its also bad to have items drop that nobody can even use and just get disenchanted by not having a rouge, you dont have anyone that wants attack power leather. so it would be a big shame if alot of that drops and there is nobody to use it. rouges can also use alot of the weird weapons that drop in raids. like daggers and 1 handed axes or maces or fist weapons. it really sucks. ive seen so many lionhead slashers and twin spike weapons disenchanted because nobody cares about those kind of weapons and by having both melee dps be plate, that means they will be competing over all the plate gear that drops. if one of those was a rouge then its easy to give leather to the rouge and plate to the other guy. and the same could be done for tanks. having 2 plate tanks means both of them want the same gear. if one was a feral tank, it would be completely different tier tokens are also a consideration. your comp has 5 conq, 3 vanq, and 2 prot. so eventually you will get to a point where the protector tokens are wasted but alot of people still need conq tokens. its nice to have as even a split as possible on those
@dylanstacey3514 Жыл бұрын
How does Affliction warlocks fit into ICC? 10/25 man.
@_aizy_ Жыл бұрын
Hey man, this was great - would you mind doing one for tier 11 in Cata?
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
defo will be a video i do!
@ColCoal Жыл бұрын
Imagine including frost mage in the running but not blood dps, even though blood will be higher than unholy with icc gear.
@astralfields Жыл бұрын
Hmm, that really depends. According to simulation projections, Blood dps with Shadowmourne will be a fair bit better than dualwield Unholy, yes. But 2H Unholy with Shadowmourne is still a little bit ahead - unless the Blood dps uses UF on themselves, at which point they compete with Frost (DK, not mage lol). The problem is, this is only in terms of a) absolute BiS and b) pure singletarget damage only. Blood benefits massively from Shadowmourne, but without it, it's one of the worst dps specs in the game. And Blood is also the worst spec for cleave/AoE damage; Frost has better burst cleave, and Unholy better mass AoE and prolonged cleave. it's also only simulations. Sims are not perfect, and usually not equally accurate. For all we know, this could all be completely wrong and Blood dps is #1 dps lol. (Kidding, but you never know. It might be a lot better or worse than we expect.)
@alexandermarkov1760 Жыл бұрын
@@astralfieldsDid you just say that blood has bad cleave? You clearly have no clue how heart strike works.
@Swangorapofficial Жыл бұрын
Damn vid was a banger
@ricroflxD Жыл бұрын
Meantime LFG tool filled with only rogues and warriors
@TheFishTankChannel Жыл бұрын
All those warriors just cried out in unison, what about me? no need for warriors in 10m check!
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
Naaah there is place for warriors tbh, i wouldn't be particularly enthusiastic to take a prot warrior personally but i'd stick a fury in there for sure
@stavey1123 Жыл бұрын
Destruction is niche but brings alot of utility and quick damage that is great in 10m.
@marcmania9839 Жыл бұрын
this comb looks quite bad tbh. u go Protpal Blood, HPal Restosham, Boomkin Shadow hunter, Ret combat (any high dpsbut probably furry war for arm shred and life shout)
@motiv3949 Жыл бұрын
Last (Retri) spot can be replaced by Fury/Combat/SP/Arcane/Fire. Or Blood DK for Prot War, Retri for Enhance or Frost DK and hunter spec MM.
@fdajax5107 Жыл бұрын
Fury Time *UNLEASH ME*
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
in 6 weeks when you get shadowmourne you can be unleashed :D
@3kittenlover Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, deleted my feral now
@jamesbyrd3740 Жыл бұрын
"The group is very balanced." 30% of the raid is 1 class.
@fizin1 Жыл бұрын
I would say a mage for that last spot for food but you never click on the table anyways. Arc gives that 3% buff right? Though most mages at this point are going fire so maybe they aren't as good for utility.
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
Aye could work mate but yea i would get no benefit from the mage putting a table down unless someone trades it to me lol. Yea arcane could cover the 3% damage but i would expect a semi decent ret to out dps an arcane tbf, i'll just drag Bawz outside to put a table down for the raid then let him watch the stream on discord lol
@zulphax4016 Жыл бұрын
Crazy, i honestly think disc has no place in ICC10. Healing saurfang 10M is a challenge. With a disc, even more so. the first mark takes as much dmg as the tank
@theefranchise1299 Жыл бұрын
keepin the engine oil with the alcohol huh?.. dont get drunk and accidently chug that🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Scottejaye Жыл бұрын
haha engine oil is a brand of gin mate, its probably the best gin out there tbf
@ddengsterSC2 Жыл бұрын
"good balanced comp" - has 3 paladins of each spec. damn you have got quite the selection of players to choose from
@sylowlover Жыл бұрын
Subtlety on the thumbnail is killing me 💀
@fxrxvxrpxlx Жыл бұрын
why would u ever take an assassination rogue over a combat rogue lol
@GalloPhilips Жыл бұрын
say "the holiest of holies"
@ricroflxD Жыл бұрын
Who are these imaginary caster DPSers that have a healing spec ready to go? I'd like to meet them please
@Jmdwolfy161 Жыл бұрын
I hate this sentiment. Making a 25m comp isn’t easy when you’re not part of a streamer guild, and you’re DEFINITELY not participating in wrath of GDKPs. It’s actually quite hard to find people that want to play the game and progress normally.