The Best Just Got Better - Ryzen 9800X3D Review and Benchmarks

[@paulshardware]

9800X3D CPUs are now listed at Amazon and Newegg... they sold out pretty fast though 😭 AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - (Amazon) geni.us/1Vd87 | (Newegg) bit.ly/3UDhWTe

[@vadagget]

Newegg had the 9800X3D for sale 15 minutes before the official retail release time, got mine, they were then sold out in under 12 mins, so before the official release time.

[@vadagget]

Did see they had new stock in about an hour ago. Guess they are so paranoid something won't sell they only take on a portion of what they have available from the distributor and wait to see if/when it sells before ordering more to be brought across town.

[@budthecyborg4575]

11:24 95FPS in Flight Sim! 19% improvement in 1% low! Now I have to buy two of them!!!

[@TheOli4D]

Only in 1080p though... would be intersting how it is in 4k

[@budthecyborg4575]

@@TheOli4D 7900XTX at 4K normally bottlenecks around 90fps, a lot of the time I set the game to render at 5K just to use up the extra power headroom.

[@claudest-gelais8456]

@@TheOli4D MS2020 is CPU limited at all resolutions with a powerful GPU. Probably less than 10% from 1080 to 4K.

[@delatroy]

@@TheOli4Dalmost no difference at 4K. Hoping to buy 7800x3d

[@wololo10]

​@@TheOli4D fs is cpu limited

[@wilga80]

Thanks for reporting on the MSFS2020 results.

[@skoggiehoggins]

Thank you for including msfs2020!! 😁😁😁👍👍👍

[@Tech-Tempest]

I got my 7950x 3D for $490 a few months ago so I kinda feel like I won the lottery. Happy to see the progress of AMD though. Would be nice if they keep it up.

[@carlosmetal]

Thanks for the MSFS test. If possible include the MSFS2024 when it's released (11/19).

[@PBehr]

Cheers for the review sir. Feel better. *HUG*

[@cjc2010]

AMD is for gamers. Intel is for… synthetic benchmark enthusiasts?

[@nipa5961]

Who doesn't play cinebench all night?

[@Aquaquake]

Pretty much any multi-core productivity tasks really. Surprising as it may be, there are people out there who care little about gaming performance in 720p, and in productivity tasks 285K mostly trades blows with 9950X

[@G0ldmoon]

intel is for userbenchmark, lol

[@roanbrand7358]

So much hype about production workdloads, but it only makes a difference if it would make you considerably more money, which is a tiny percentage of all sales. And a new 8 core today is faster than more cores of a few years ago. Who is handycapped here?

[@frankwong9486]

For TSMC profit 😂

[@peppie185]

This why Paul is the GOAT - forr mentioning the x670e motherboards which is cheaper than the x870e / x870

[@FoxMamba]

He’s the best! He’s always looking out.

[@ChessJourneyman]

Literally every channel has said it. Regurgitating same things.

[@nipa5961]

Great CPU! 9800X3D is 25% faster than 285K. What crazy times we are living in!

[@Yor-s6g]

only in 1080p res, don't forget that, news everywhere are misleading

[@nipa5961]

@@Yor-s6g But people paid twice the price when Intel had only a 10% lead. XD

[@prdx8543]

@@Yor-s6g Actually, that is because the GPU just can't handle 9800X3D speed, yet. You need at least 7090 or 8090 to be able to run at higher res with 9800X3D. Even 5800X3D is still beating Ultra 285 and 14900K to a pulp if you put higher res.

[@andersjjensen]

@@Yor-s6g No, it is not misleading. You're just a simpleton who can't extrapolate from two sets of tests to get the one result you need. What you're looking for is a system benchmark, with similar components to your own, not a component benchmark.

[@Megaman8880]

@@Yor-s6g Lower resolutions are how you benchmark CPUs. There is absolutely nothing misleading about this. It's just showing people that they will have more longevity with this hardware as opposed to the competition. It's showing you that your money is better spent on this vs that.

[@yurithebrave]

Bought the 7800X3D for about $350 a few months back and I feel like a total winner lol

[@darrenjk5438]

Still after all of this currently the 2nd best gaming cpu. Bought it for also a few months ago for around €360.

[@wingman-1977]

You have every right to be. 🙌 5800X3D owner here and feel the same.

[@Enju23]

5800X3D owner here, I might end up buying the 9800X3D and getting ready to sell this cpu to make up for it lol

[@wingman-1977]

@ The 5800X3D will still be good for years. It only has 2yrs on the market.

[@Ladioz]

@@wingman-1977 I have the 5800X3D too... i think it's still ok even if its very old

[@Superiorer]

Watched for the MSFS results. Thank you for including those

[@jamesm568]

That's all my PC is dedicated to.

[@noMoneystrike]

when 5800x3d still relevant for gaming :)... poor INTEL :(

[@jan7751-o4w]

I game in 4k. It'll take a few GPU generations still before my 5900X needs an upgrade.

[@nipa5961]

5800X3D even ties the 285K. That's insane!

[@blakecasimir]

AM4 Will never die. Seriously it's still a great budget option. And I fully expect it to be able to power a couple more GPU generations.

[@VinceOhio]

5800X3D user here who upgraded from a 2700X on a motherboard I bought 5 years ago. AMD has earned my respect and saved me a lot of money.

[@moriwenne]

@@jan7751-o4w Oh I so hear you there man. I bought my 5900x in early 2021 to play at 4k. The 5800x3d showed up, no difference. The 7800x3d came along, no diff. Now a new gen 9800x3d and still no diff. Four years later and there's no point in upgrading more or less. All these videos showing tons of benchmarks in 1080 to show the % diff seem so niche to me. Ppl with a low budget are still playing at 1080 and will not be upgrading to these expensive parts so only pros are left that need all the fps they can get on one or two fps games and certainly not in cyberpunk or horizon zero dawn or hogwarts or the last of us...

[@GSP-76]

It's crazy how competitive the 5800x3d still is today. AM4 was as a killer platform

[@nathlimpruttidham3458]

Thank you for testing MSFS 2020. It is very helpful for me. Awesome video as always!

[@sesquey]

Been waiting for this review - thank you so much, Paul!

[@TheOli4D]

Thanks for including Microsoft Flight Simulator! So annying that no one else does it.

[@Geinrendour]

Same. Great game to test CPUIs too.

[@RobBCactive]

Huh? I've seen several reviewers who do include that game.

[@TheOli4D]

@@RobBCactive Who? I saw it only here

[@Alauz]

That's it, you convinced me to upgrade from my 7800X3D, been wanting something to get more from Flight Sim. Thanks Paul!

[@PaladinAldwin]

This CPU is a beast🔥🔥🔥 I appreciate you're review, Thank you 🙏

[@adamclarke6804]

I traded 6 Sega Genesis games for my 7800x3d, probably best deal of my life

[@Dracossaint]

A bloody steal, good on ya.

[@Sureflame]

I sold a Fire Emblem Fates SE (300) and a 6.72 PS4 to pay for the this chip instead lmao

[@bubsy3861]

@@Dracossaint Its depend on games. Some games can cost like 10 of that CPUs

[@lucasrem]

adamclarke6804 nostalgic people need it, what did the 7800x3d replaced ?

[@adamclarke6804]

I replaced a Ryzen 5600 which now lives in my son's PC, I wanted to get 5800x3d originally but ended up cheaper to trade games for new CPU and pay for mobo/ddr5

[@patches8291]

Thank you Paul for using the bios update and testing on an X670 board 😀😀😀

[@asifdomo500]

15:05 are you sure they are getting both CCD cache? according to many leaks even from months back is nearly confirmed to be only one CCD cache and changing for zen 6 for both CCD for cache.

[@chewbacca7305]

Oh Paul, even when I could care less about the details your videos calm me. A lot.

[@chewbacca7305]

For like the last ten years.

[@martinarscott3524]

Haha love it, straight to the point in 20 seconds! :)

[@GD_MoonBlister]

Great video Paul and thank you for sharing!!!!!

[@Cb7sohc]

Great vid, this is my preferred channel for reviews -straight to the point

[@panzer2181]

Thank you so much for testing MSFS!! For a sim where our FPS are so critical, this jump in performance can make a huge difference.

[@natetroxide]

Great review! I really appreciate the explanation of the hardware and reasoning to why you used what. I always love more context. Nicely done!

[@PrezaGuestMusic]

Would a 9800x3d be okay for music production? Looking to upgrade from 12900k and working if this ryzen chip would still be okay for music production and gaming?

[@afoiz]

so close. i was hoping to get a perf/cost for compute with a wider cpu range. All other videos stick to gaming cost/fps. Good work.

[@stevelevesque939]

Thanks a lot for the MSFS2020 bench since this is the most important info for us that sim for MANY hours a week SINCE 2020! I awaits msfs2024 to see if I jump from my extremely valuable 5800x3d to the next 9800x3d.

[@djbbenn]

Thought about an entire new build this year, but honestly can’t see much benefit going from my 5800x3d to the 9800x3d when running 1440p ultrawide. Maybe just a very nice new gpu and case.

[@isadora-6th]

such CPU upgrades are feasible only if something is provlematic like statters in your favourite game which can't be solved by reducing GPU load like modded games and simbased stuff like lategame rimworld and factorio like games (oni) where it's CPU decidung factor of would you play at halve the intended game speed

[@Funkx82]

woot first comment... Thank you Paul for all you do... Your my go to tech channel.

[@poeticsilence047]

Now I want to see a Wall-E themed 9800X3D build.

[@itsdeonlol]

Thanks for the coverage Paul!

[@thecoreelementsmoto]

So if you needed a do it all work station. Gaming and video and photo editing with some VFX would you go with the 9800x3d over the higher thread count cpus in the same price range?

[@Xendindrome]

Grabbed mine before it sold out. Can't wait to see it in action.

[@AvroBellow]

I applaud you for mentioning the R8-5800X3D! After all: One does not simply ignore the GOAT gaming CPU. 😁

[@xDAKPRODUCTIONSx]

Excited to see some advancement for x3d chips. Will make it all the more juicy for an end of life AM5 upgrade for whichever one ends up being the last

[@hamtheterrible7621]

It's all nice to see. Fortunately, I still have my Ryzen 9 5950x, RTX 3090, and 128gb DDR4 3600 and still don't feel the need for more. It may change in the next few years. But no time really soon.

[@IrocZIV]

Would be nice if CPUs came with a spec sheet that told you the best settings to run them at.

[@2528drevas]

It's nice to see a CPU that actually delivers! While I am going to ride my AM4 setup with the 5800X3D a little longer, I feel better about what will be available when I do upgrade.

[@spatialpro]

I am soooooooo pleased you included MSFS 2024 in your benchmarking!!!! 🥳 Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! 👍👍👍

[@SWEJmeister]

Insane MSFS result!

[@TheOli4D]

1080p tough... I wonder about 4k... kinda more relevant for most people

[@JasonTheOneAndOnly]

I'm very interested to see how Intel responds with its next release, they've got to go balls out now surely.

[@jamie7tcr777]

Managed to snag a "pre order" yesterday and is apparently on its way to me next week (apparently a lot of the uk retailers stock got held up at customs!). After lots of research went with Aorus B650e elite ax ice and Corsair vengeance EXPO 6000 cl30. Spent days researching really hope ive made good choices! Upgrading from 9900k z390 and ddr4 so hoping to notice some improvement 😊

[@StargazerMCHB]

Hey Paul After I saw the benchmarks of 9800x3d, I was kinda bothered by the lack of productivity from 9800x3d other than gaming. So I just decided and went with 9900x from Amazon which is priced at 380ish. What is your thought? Is 9900x still a legit alternative?

[@brianbalsama3912]

Newegg live now 5:36am pst. Just purchased one.

[@Hydra70964]

Picked one up on Newegg today!

[@docbrody]

Awesome run down. Thanks.

[@rainerlovesjapan9468]

Good for 3440x1440 resolution gaming or just for HD only?

[@waynestorton1875]

Great video 🙂.

[@solidreactor]

I liked the "Compute and Gaming" chart, interesting for those like me who needs a cpu for both productivity and gaming

[@alfredosalza6328]

Great review

[@TheRHIM]

Liking this video because liking is as close as I’ll get to getting to POKING Paul!!!

[@morpheus_9]

Holy shit the 14900K getting up to 103°C with a 360MM AIO is ABSOLUTELY nuts! I just got a 9800X3D. It is really impressive that it is 25% faster than the 7800X3D in productivity workloads, and it basically eliminated all of the drawbacks of the 7800X3D. It’s within 5% of the 12900K (and matches the 3950X in multi core) in productivity workloads which is extremely impressive.

[@johnpaulbacon8320]

Great video.

[@lostinseale]

First, get better soon. Now, finally a review that seemed more balanced. My compute needs are higher than gaming. Easier to make an informed decision with more balanced data. Will CU-DIMM, when available to AMD, make up the difference in compute? MSI stated that it would be supported but no one talks about it. Is this a future option?

[@Jowersman]

I'm a 4k gamer with 5800X3d / 4090. Would I benefit much from this? I would have to upgrade my whole system

[@nipa5961]

5800X3D is still great! Even the Core 285K can't beat it.

[@tilapiadave3234]

Throw away that over-rated 5800X3D

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

youll get smth like 100 vs 140fps with 9800x3d, in eco mode, with max perf+pbo probably doubling

[@DrMicoco]

nope you dont, if you dont feel any limitation then dont upgrade. And on that resolution, most of the issue will be on the 4090, so save that for a new gpu

[@ramonzaions7522]

Eeeeeexxxxccceeeellleennnttt!

[@Seventh7Art]

Ryzen 9800X3D is full of win, especially for the upcoming MSFS 2024 !!!

[@ElderGamerX]

Gaming = AMD Gaming + Workloads = AMD Workloads = AMD or Intel depending on the specific tasks Competitive Cinebench = Intel

[@SolarScion]

Just the mention of the 285K is enough to elicit a chuckled in these videos, but I do wonder at a more realistic scenario of running full spectrum intensive (CPU-Physics-GPU) @4K how it will do considering it is better at some CPU heavy stuff.

[@OPTERON_PRIME]

Thank you Paul XD

[@shocka007]

Because its Paul, I watched it all, Get well .. brother

[@shocka007]

I don't actually remember $330 and $350 for it because that is $547 and $581 NZ but I get the picture 🔥

[@RaySurv1ves]

Sooooo, what's the best motherboard to pair with this and a 5090? Current or Q1 upcoming motherboard?

[@juts89]

Was PBO enabled, I dont see it on the test bed setup sheet?

[@moonfly1]

I have a question. I run a 7800x3d clocked to about 4.9 Ghz. It's been rock solid. Is my performance essentially the same as running the 9800X3D at or close to stock. The extra performance seems to be pretty much a result of just higher clocks, but is there any more to it than that? If not then clocking both CPUs to the same speed would give the same performance, but do they?

[@Pillers4Momoms]

I just purchased the 9800x3d. How would I go about updating the bios if I don’t have an older amd processor. According to pc part picker I may need one to update bios.

[@TALPOKEYASHA]

What about RAM? Is the best RAM speed still 6000 mhz? The latest X870 and X870E m\b support up to 8000. I would really like to see another video talk about RAM speeds and the optimal one (I do know not all boards support 8000, which is why I want to know if it even matters before buying a new one (upgrading from my trusty i5 8600K).

[@philontech7245]

I really wish you would highlight the new chip with a color that stands out more.

[@leviathanpriim3951]

It's crazy to think this is where we are with AMD when they relaunched themselves in 2017 with the Ryzen 1800x @ $499

[@rustygates3367]

The Intel 285K performs better by a good margin against a like-for-like competitor, being the 9950X. In gaming performance, it consumes quite a bit less power than the 9950X too.

[@kajobluemane]

I'm considering upgrading my 5800X3D to this one. Just can't decide on RAM yet.

[@fdiskformat5049]

Will my DeepCool AK400 ok ? It keeps my 7800X3D also cool

[@leif-erichansens2635]

I was lucky and got a great combo deal with 9800X3D. No need to upgrade from a 7800X3D, but I like to tinker and the old X3D doesn't let you do that ( much ).

[@delatroy]

Hoping for lower end X3D skus like 9700x3d. At 1440 and 4K there’s not much difference

[@LandsOfDespair]

Is there any reason to wait for 9900-9950X3D, can they be better in gaming and without previous dual CCD bugs? :)

[@SymptomzYT]

What's the best board to pair with that and CL30 RAM 2x32gb?

[@naturallyawesome6723]

How have you got uour hands on one?

[@MrTeabag55]

Unfortunately none of the 9800x3d reviews out there shows 4k comparaison... Smell fishy, do you think it totally sucks in 4k, or 1440? (all reviews are on 1080) Tks for any info.

[@Megaman8880]

I have never been so tempted to upgrade my CPU after just one generation. This is impressive. Gotta save that $ for a 5090 though.

[@Denbot.Gaming]

Quality content as per usual, it might be worth revisiting the starfield test though. 100% something off with your starfield test... in the most demanding area's I get 80FPS on a 5950x paired with a 7900xtx at 3440x1440p all balls to the wall in terms of graphics quality, no FSR or frame gen BS. in the less demanding area's around 180 FPS and in the average area its 120-140 FPS... I do have the CPU boosting to 4.8 all core and 5.1-5.2 for single core boosting though. It could also be the game though, some potato code in that game for sure.

[@Mihnea729]

I am still using the 5800X 3D ! Awesome CPU !

[@tilapiadave3234]

Most over-rated cpu EVER

[@nipa5961]

5800X3D is the best CPU of all time. Always will be.

[@tilapiadave3234]

@@nipa5961 Try your best to get out of mummy's basement ,, and see REALITY

[@initdeit]

Wait they're doing vcache on both CCDs this time!? I'd already resolved to wait for the 9950x3d but that just hiked my excitement exponentially.

[@krjal3038]

It's not confirmed but based on the rumours it's looking more and more likely

[@shalveenkumar2142]

thank you so much for testing Microsoft Flight SImulator!

[@tvance03]

Hail to the King, baby!

[@golfmc78]

Would it be a waste to go to 9800x3d from a 5800x3d with a 4070 for ms flight sim?

[@darktek13]

Thank you AMD for delivering a faster gaming CPU and thank you Paul for the review.

[@spawnandbatman6975]

So I have a 9700k with a 3080ti. Should I upgrade to the 7800x3d or this new cpu?

[@junior-OG]

for gaming at 4k with 4090/5090 (soon) go intel or amd ?

[@andytroo]

7:32 - 8 cores more than half of intel's 24 cores? but 7:42 single thread is a little behind - seems intel hits a thermal or data bottleneck wall ...

[@CMD_MR_GRIDDY]

verry very nice cpu, 1 note a (my) 12700K on 4k gaming have the same numbers then a 7800x3d in gaming (testen with a friend) do this better? when i want this cpu i paying over 1000 bucks for a swap and the performance will be the same on 4K? (4080super) (i dont go back to 1080p :)) so i will be fine for 2/3 years waiting for maybe zen 6 or even nvideas cpu? prob intel is far far behind then. good to see fs2020 and hopefully fs2024?? ty for the benchy's Paul

[@LEGENDARYTACTICALTECH]

Curious, if the 7800 says default ddr5 speed is 5200 is that the recommendation? will anything higher make the PC unstable? thx

[@danchovanes2612]

6000mhz should work, but probably nothing much above that

[@mileskt9232]

weird on temps as i have seen 10-12c lower from the 7800x3d vs the 9800x3d on multiple reviewers

[@DenDaanDaan]

Where is 4k ? we don`t play on 1080p anymore for about 4 years ?

[@ODIOPOWER]

What a beast (Paul, ofc)

[@raymondgoubet]

11:24 Thank you for testing Flight Simulator 2020!

[@GroundGame.]

Current 5800x3d owner here, is it worth upgrading to the 9800x3d?

[@BOKLOZ4ME]

If my main usage is gaming, and i do it at 4k using rtx 4090, and i found a deal on 7800x3d for $350 ( about $400 tax and shipping included), shall i go for it or get the 9800x3d (If i can find it for msrp it will be around $590 tax and shipping included)?