The Best Legends Class Prowl? Magic Square Thunder Pioneer and NewAge Toys Harry Comparisons.

[@tron9137]

Deluxe you always do a great job! You take me back to my youth, many, many moons ago! Where things were simple and all you needed was a few transformers and a whole lotta imagination! Love your enthusiasm!

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Well thank you very much for the kind words and watching this! 😀

[@brandonknight3527]

Very interesting. I like both, but seem to like the NewAge a little more. I would like to see the NewAge next to the JinBao Devastator for size comparison.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Thank you very much for watching this 😆 😀 😊 🙏

[@victorysla]

Back to the chill photo music, niice!!! Great video Deluxe!

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@Tremain]

It's crazy how they are the same size in car mode but ms is much bigger in robot mode. That's some mass shifting going on there.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Yeah its some kind of voodoo magic. Lol thank you for watching this 😀

[@Ditronus.]

It makes me believe that the magic square transformation is more intricate and fun like a puzzle , but I haven't transformed to either yet because I don't have them.

[@Memo224]

Why Yes I'll have both! Thanks for sharing!

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Lol thank ya!

[@jasonswitzer1748]

I’m all in on Newage strictly because of the paint and materials. Magic Square transformations are sometimes a bit too complex for the size of the figures, while NA, despite not being as complex, are complex enough to keep things interesting and most importantly, fun. Also, I prefer the more slender bot proportions of NA, which seem to be more accurate to the cartoon (looking at you Constructicons and Megatron). That being said, the bot mode of MS Prowl has nicer proportions than the NA version. Bottom line, you can’t go wrong with either NA or MS figures. Neither is perfect, but both are pretty damn awesome.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Awesome! Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@yunoyuluvit]

Newage scale far better with others in the line, than Magic Square, too, as they use the officially lists heights.

[@_AlexB_]

Man i want MS to graduate from that craplastic sooo much! The combine parts for devastator are good plastic while the constructicons are craplastic. It drives me nuts cuz magic square stuff looks so good but feels so cheap & crappy

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

They have. Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@ManCaveCollectibleReviews]

You said it best, MS with a better presence but both are solid! Great comparison video!

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Man you're just a awesome guy!

[@neondarknessor]

Newage for the win for me. Smaller with a nice white and better plastic. 🧐

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Awesome! Thank you very much for watching this

[@davidct1157]

Nice both great figures

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Thanks!

[@rudyvalle9022]

The NA Datsuns are the reason I got into 3rd party legends figures. Then NA seekers and Soundwave made me a fan boy. But the more MS figures I got, the more I started liking their stuff better. This video just sold me on the MS Datsuns. The upcoming MS Hound, Mirage and Jazz sealed the deal for me. I’m all in for MS. I just ordered MS Devastator. The addiction is real!

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Yeah im looking forward to the new MS stuff. Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@liyahandadriana421]

Both look great. If they were both the same height in robot mode it would be NewAge all the way for me, because Magic Square is missing some important Prowl robot mode details. I need those tires behind the shoulders and peaks at the end of his wings(doors).

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@MCDJACDC]

Awesome bots!!

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

You're awesome!

[@Anduril1974]

I've got this on pre-order, should be here in a week or so. Can't wait! I own the NA versions of Prowl and Bluestreak and as cool as they were, they're FAR too short (vs. the other MS and NA figures). I got the MS Bluestreak recently and it very quickly replaced the NA version. MS Prowl will likely do the same. I'll probably sell the NA versions then. Totally concede that NA tend to have better paintjobs and the plastic feels nicer, but MS engineering and sculpts are really improving in leaps and bounds.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

I can definitely agree with that. Glad the plastic is getting better with MS. Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@Sparkplugch2]

これは面白い比較ですね。同じトミカほどの大きさなのにロボット時の身長や変形パターンなどが違うというのも面白いですね。

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

yeah they do that with a couple of their bots. Thank you very much for watching this

[@Maxshade7]

Thanks for doing this! Newage is just too small. The one flaw with MS is the hollowness under the chest. Newage is actually built a bit better.. hopefully NA or some company can upsize it or make a V2 that’s a bit bigger. Like what NA is doing with Ironhide. Thanks again!

[@Tremain]

newage is perfectly scaled to other newage autobots

[@daarkmachine]

Future carbots ( NA Mirage, Hound ) are 7.6 cm size as current ( NA Jazz 7.8cm, Datsuns 7.6cm ). NA Ironhide V2 which is 9.8cm, and the first version NA Ironhide is 9cm or 9.2 cm. In cartoon G1 Ironhide and Ratchet they are bigger for one head from other carbots, now with new version of Ironhide and Ratchet carbots are goona be so ridiculous small. MST bots are bigger and NA there should have been a smaller line.

[@Maxshade7]

@@Tremain if you like that scale than enjoy. Just a bit too small for me.

[@Maxshade7]

@@daarkmachine I saw the sizes at show Z store. NA Mirage and Hound will be smaller than NA Prowl. Ironside V2 or newest one will be 10.5 cm. So they are making him just a head shorter than their Prime. NA Beachcomber will be bigger than Prowl and most NA car bots. I think NA is rethinking their scale. All info I got from showzstore.

[@daarkmachine]

@@Maxshade7 Showz heights are never correct before release :)

[@grandiosa86]

Thanks for this!! I got the Kingdom Pipes the other day and it was fantastic! What is the prices of those prowl bud?

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Awesome! Um MS is lil over $40 and idk about NA he's been out for awhile. Thanks for watching

[@grandiosa86]

@@DeluxeBaldwin Really cool! Keep going strong!

[@transformaniamx409]

@Deluxe now with Ironhide re-issue and Starscream V1.5 do you think NewAge would revisit the datsuns? I think they’ve nailed proportions on all of their figures except for those guys

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

I wouldnt put it past them. Easy money. Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@RazyelKayneReviews]

Love the comparison video, it's always good. You're always good! Keep this up man! I think I prefer the new age, looks better. Great review sir!

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

You're the wind beneath my wings

[@JasonSawyer]

I get the feeling Newage is going to do some 2.0 versions, like they already did with Bee, and apparently doing with Ironhide/Ratchet. Hopefully they make them right in the middle of these two height-wise.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Yeah it looks that way. kinda wish they would move on with new stuff. Really want their stunticons to come out. Thank you so much for watchin this

[@NICULAEVEGA]

Yes! hope that, they just have to work on the legs, in the whole I prefer New Age, I saw the mold of Jazz, and in robot mode is very cool, but car mode doesn't look like the old toy and the real car, so I won't change my new age. Any ways MS and NA are very cool toys..

[@daltonwilliams1723]

If they do, I hope they do that barricade repaint like they did for the first Datsun mold.

[@scrambledcitycustomz8134]

Great comparison, i think ms wins on the sculp, i love how the back of the legs are cover up ,something i wish the mp did.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Yeah the MS is good. Wish they'd release Smokescreen to finish off the three. Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@nachofernandezcomics5238]

I like so much Newage design, as I´ve got Prowl and Silverstreak from this mold. Detail and proportions are really cool for a toy with a transformation so simple and intuitive. It has a bit of feel from g1 toy. By the way, I admit the size of bot mode is a bit dissapointing when displayed among rest of Newage and Magic Square toys in my collection. NA Bumblebee is almost as tall as him XD. MS prowl is a nice animation-based version, surprisingly, almost same size and scale than NA´s toy on car mode. In bot mode displays so nice with rest of autobot cars, just the size the character must be. For the other way, as other recent MS bots, the alternate mode suffer of "Rubik-Cube-effect" in order to keep the complex transformation feature that gets that stilished figure, and specifically I don´t like so much that metal pin just in the middle of each rear window. I find NA car mode solved much better. I´m considering to add this MS Prowl to my collection, and display it on robot mode, near the NA one in car mode. Beautiful review and comparison, as always, on Deluxe ^--^

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Awesome! Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@DragoonMS]

I dunno. NewAge is kinda missing something to be tryna pull the G1 toy look...namely the "Patrol" or "Police" stickers on the doors. 😏 As for Magic Square...that gray is odd, but not unheard of...like in the Movie...right before gettin' shot in the headlight nipple and dying...yesss. 😏😏😏 Personally, I gotta go NewAge; Magic Square's colors have been off lately (their oddly pale yellow Bumblebee 2.0, their Cliffjumper 2.0, and now Prowl).

[@itsahostiletakeover]

Agreed, the re-release of NewAge Prowl tried to fix that with all of the highway patrol decos the original toy had. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5uzg2eFhrJkf5I I'm a fan of both companies but I also agree with things just feeling off color-wise with some of Magic Square's recent releases.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Awesome! Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@yunoyuluvit]

That's because this was the animation deco. Newage do a better job of using the animation heights and more slender proportions. Magic Square mistakenly get given the animation look, due to the cheaper, Matt plastic they use.

[@DragoonMS]

The crazy part is that MS seemed to have *NAILED IT* with their 2023 reissue of their Light of Victory (Optimus 2.0); the colors are on point (as they were the first time), but then they took a page from the cheaper solo release (MS-B46E) version and added clear blue windows to look even better. Their Jazz? All their variants are just awesome. But them Datsuns?? Nah. Just nah.

[@spot138]

So far as alt modes are concerned, New Age's Alt mode is way more accurate to the Datsun 280ZX. The rims on the Magic Square version are way off as they were 4 Lug, 4 Spoke Alloy wheels. The taillights on the MS are also way off, and the windows are the wrong shape. It's also strange that both of them sport Tee-Tops (w/ Light-bars to boot!), and a Non-Turbo Hood. Sorry to go all car dork - but I'm a MASSIVE fan/enthusiast of the 280ZX... Go ahead... Ask me anything

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@ionacustoyreviews857]

Prowl is a low Key favorite of mine. I’ve several versions of prowl more than most other transformers characters

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

That's awesome! Thanks

[@Syxxth]

Can you help me find the Hophop Bunny Bee toy? Sirtoys shows it, but it is not for sale.

[@thepartsformer]

Yes, help me find this too

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

I have no clue what you're talking about

[@filmedwithiphone4]

Where do you get the blast effects?

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Wfc Mainline bots. Thanks for watching

[@itsme-notyou]

Looks like MS takes this one. I have the NA, and I like them small. NA doesn't have the head or posture quite right, but it's close enough that I probably won't swap out for MS.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Well thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@NICULAEVEGA]

It’s cool the MS in robot mode, New Age it’s better plastic, better doors. In Car mode New Age it’s by far better because it looks like the real Car Datsun, the Magic Square doesn’t look like the real car.. it’s pretty but I still prefer New Age.. just the legs are better in MS, the 2 are cool anyways.. also the New Age resembles to the 80s toy or the drawing in the boxes in the 80s, hope New Age do a remake of the care brothers, just work on the legs.. the material it’s so cool.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@leviathanthetallone8299]

If only we could swap the legs than the new age would be better

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

lol yeah that would help. But i like that NA is their own scale even tho its shorter than MS. Thank you very much for watching this!

[@Patolagos]

Wha... How did Thunder Pioneer shrink that much?

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@Starscream628]

I like newage I like how they look I don't care about the scale I just got more into the legends after watching some of your videos I like the smaller ones because they take up less room, I use to get only the mp scale but not any more

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Awesome! Thanks for watching this 😀

[@hulksmash8159]

Alight, alright, alright.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Lol mmmhmmm exactly

[@T2rx6]

Still prefer NA

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Heck yeah you do!

[@itsahostiletakeover]

I did a similar comparison for my first channel between these two companies' Bluestreaks and I agree, you can't go wrong with either figure, it's just up to your preferences. But my final conclusion was NewAge all day personally, especially in alt mode. If I'm being honest I don't think either company really got the proportions right but I agree too that both of them have weird feet..but again I think the NA one works a little better with articulation and isn't as gappy. As always, great stuff here Deluxe, always helping the community with these types of vids. If you're interested, I did a comparison with both of the NewAge Prowls, on Pocket Bot Collective a couple of months ago👍kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5uzg2eFhrJkf5I

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Awesome! I'll definitely check it out! Thanks for watching

[@jasonking9503]

Boooo You went back to the "pretty" music during picture time. What happened to the metal? Great review as always though.

[@zilvertron]

I think youre mixing up Deluxe with Thew, Deluxe has had this generic song for long while Thew uses metal for the transformations. Dont hink Deluxe is a metal fan, but i could be wrong

[@jasonking9503]

@@zilvertron I only watch deluxe and Skullface. Will have to rewatch some vids and see where I got screwed up. Lol.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

I've been mixing it up lately with a metal song during the photos. I love metal. 😀

[@jasonking9503]

@@DeluxeBaldwin I thought so. And what you chose is good stuff, so I had a feeling you were into it, otherwise you would have picked something "heavy" like Nickleback. Bahahahahaha.