The Best Leverless for 2024? | Haute42 R16 Review

The R16 by Haute42 (COSMOX) is one of the best leverless controllers I've ever played on. It's comfortable, customizable and at the affordable price of just $74 you really can't go wrong.
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Timestamps
00:00 Introduction
01:11 Packaging / Unboxing
01:36 Design / Features
02:39 Button Layout
03:18 Rims
04:00 Sound Test
04:54 Gameplay Experience
06:52 Pros & Cons
09:41 Who's This For?
11:05 Conclusion
11:41 Bonus Gameplay
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[@cosmicxion]

Thanks for the review, I bought this leverless about a week ago and was surprised no one was talking about it.

[@yourboyneeto]

It did just release so I think people were on the fence, it’s a great leverless. Hope you’re enjoying it!

[@jovialvibes5962]

So glad I found your channel. Presentation, voiceover, review format, the vibe of the room…. Nailed it . Instant sub

[@yourboyneeto]

I appreciate you bro thanks for the positivity. I’m relatively new in the controller review community but I’ve been making content for a long time. Thanks for being here!

[@Ksmooth2022]

Great review. Really looking forward to the artwork customization vid.

[@yourboyneeto]

Coming soon!

[@demothy6276]

The R16 is honestly a super pretty controller and I love that they're implementing the little rim on this style of controller. Hoping more leverless manufacturers start doing something similar. If you haven't already I HIGHLY recommend checking out the Punk Workshop controllers, namely the type-b layout. Probably my favorite leverless to date. Had to pick up a second one JUST because I wanted to have both the minibox and the ultrabox.

[@Dudeman567]

Just bought mine around a week ago. This review made me even happier for purchasing it. Appreciate it 😘😘

[@yourboyneeto]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@M0HAK0]

Just found you today and i must say your editing and video quality are very very good! Gonna have to sub.

[@yourboyneeto]

Welcome! Thanks for being here bro

[@CapturelightMusic]

Thanks for the review man I’m definitely gonna cop me a Haute controller 😊

[@yourboyneeto]

DONT LIE YOU GOT ONE ALREADY

[@ninjaroku3247]

Really good review, very thorough.

[@yourboyneeto]

Glad you liked it!

[@thaiduong9349]

awesome video, keep up the excellent work!

[@yourboyneeto]

BRO I GOTCHU ILL MAKE U PROUD

[@Muteny84]

I bought the Haute G16 when Tekken dropped and loved that learning experience. And then I got the Haute B16 when Multiversus dropped an loved leverless even more. If that left pinky button could magically appear on my devices, I'd be madly in love.

[@yourboyneeto]

I couldn’t agree more, it makes so much sense both in design and ergonomics. My left pinky still does the sipping tea lift but I’m finding myself use it more now

[@Tw1xdot_]

Man. I had just started my own box right before Haute began releasing these controllers. I started following TheTrain and how the GP2040-CE project was coming along. These controllers are freaking awesome, and make Leverless so much cheaper than other options on the market.

[@yourboyneeto]

TheTrain is the real goat fr

[@JetstreamFil]

hell yeeee, the algo showed me neeto!!!

[@yourboyneeto]

welcome ✌️

[@MrRiddimmonkey]

I currently use the T16 with the magic boots adapter on PS5 and it never times out ..works perfect!

[@yourboyneeto]

May I ask what firmware you’re on and if there were any settings in particular you did? I’m pretty sure I had it setup correctly. Sometimes I would play for hours and it’d be great, others it would time out mid sesh. Please lmk!

[@Haute42Gaming]

Thank you for your kind words about us❤

[@yourboyneeto]

Any time!

[@FrameData1990]

Looking to purchase one as soon as I can in the UK,the T16 was great to learn on,and the R16 looks even better

[@C7oudstrife]

great vid bro

[@yourboyneeto]

Thank you!

[@davidgabay9398]

Nice to see they changed the position of the cable connector, the one on the side of the previous Haute42 Cosmox I had broke

[@yourboyneeto]

Also helps that it’s an angled USB C cable, I can see why it’s a good thing but you’re absolutely right

[@sebiisonline]

Really good review. This controller is sold by multiple different companies so I don't know which one is best. I'm just speculating but I think they're bought from the same warehouse and rebranded by each company, even the little screen is the same.

[@yourboyneeto]

Yeah if you buy it on Amazon I think they factor in fees and whatnot for having a shop there but the official one is one Aliexpress, they don’t take too long to ship either

[@arsonne]

Awesome review. Love your Overwatch mousepad. lol

[@DatDaddyZaddy]

11/10 Review Brother! Cons and Pros easy to understand. Doesn't feel robotic or generic, straight Vibes all the way through. After you next video, can you make one thats like a tutorial to learning how to play on that style? I've always wanted to try to understand it. ALSO, how does it handle in menus?

[@yourboyneeto]

I appreciate you man thanks for always being a real one ✌️ I’ve also been scripting a full leverless guide if that’s what you’re looking for! Menus might be confusing for some as the up button is below the down button but I’ve been playing on hitbox for so long it’s second nature now

[@astjuly8239]

YEEESSSSS FINALLY! I was so anxious for this video About the Magic Boots dongle, does the dongle angles or tilts when used on a desk? I wonder cause they just launched the Cosmox PS5 dongle, which is very compact Edit 2: BRÖTHER, that Morrigan wallpaper

[@yourboyneeto]

I gotchu! The dongle is very compact and doesn’t angle or tilt at all! I did see the Booter 5 they just released as well, it might be worth picking up if they made it specifically for Haute42 controllers. AND LOL IM GLAD YOU NOTICED, it’s actually Soda from Nikke 😭

[@astjuly8239]

@@yourboyneeto Thanks for replying! AND SORRY, I THOUGHT IT WAS MORRIGURL BECAUSE THE SCREEN WAS SO BRIGHT!!

[@yourboyneeto]

@@astjuly8239 a man of culture indeed

[@Juanr2383]

I love their fight sticks. I have one of them.

[@yourboyneeto]

Which one?? I’m so eager to cop a B16 o

[@Juanr2383]

I have the Haute42 Fightstick Hitbox Leverless Mini

[@HelloKevinHi]

This controller looks so good for the price. WTFFFF

[@yourboyneeto]

Crazy right we’re in the best timeline to get into fighting games

[@justintan5629]

Great review! I got one aswell. I also definately am cautious with it since I’m afraid it will snap haha. Btw what’s your sf6 modern controls layout?

[@yourboyneeto]

Legit! I have a video on my channel for my modern controls for leverless, hasn’t changed but added what I mentioned in this video. Thanks for watching!

[@MrGamerKyle]

Thanks for the in depth review! I'm kind of on the fence which to choose T16 or R16, the creaking of R16 kinda put me off. Is it the same with T16?

[@yourboyneeto]

Same build with the T16; it’s p much just the acrylic build for the most part - if you got the metal version you don’t have to worry as much 🫡

[@mahkeemdehmah10boo87]

I’ve been eyeing this company since they emerged but wanted to see how they will be received over time and to no surprise it went well! Every product they have puts my 200$ Micro to shame while being more then half cheaper and also having better form factor and build this is actually insane. The junk food crew were smart to over price their stuff when there was no alternatives but now? I ordered an R16 yesterday, Hope I’ll like it! Always preferred arcade style and feel, With the Rims hopefully it will be the case :D

[@yourboyneeto]

the hitbox / leverless scene has seriously evolved in the past couple years there's so much innovation nowadays. hope you enjoy the R16 as much as I do, you'll be surprised how close the rims feel to actual arcade buttons

[@mahkeemdehmah10boo87]

​@@yourboyneeto Thank you man, Much appriciated and great video! Do you happen to have any recommendations of a place to order a foam pad for it? Preferably one I can even choose to etch and choose the color of the foam since I will be making art for it. And maybe a case or even a sleeve, i'm just wondering since I didn't see them offer any of those on their shop so im assuming I need to find a work around like I did with my Micro.

[@yourboyneeto]

@@mahkeemdehmah10boo87if you’re asking about bottom foam for it to slip less, search up “Non-Abrasive Grip Tape” I’ve seen a transparent version as well by LifeGrip that looks p good (might cop) as for a sleeve or case it’s the same dimensions as a 11-12 inch laptop so you can p much see which ones suit you the most. I would just make sure it’s well padded. Hope that helps!

[@yourboyneeto]

@@mahkeemdehmah10boo87if you’re asking about a foam pad to put in between the acrylic I don’t have any recommendations or experience quite yet, I’d assume you’d need to get longer make screws for the mating fasteners if you did so. Lmk if that’s what you meant if not totally ignore this comment haha

[@mahkeemdehmah10boo87]

@@yourboyneeto it was for the bottom plate homie thank you so much it is not taken for granted!

[@Wolfschwarz1]

I'm using the T16 with magic boots and I dont have problems with the time out. Also i'm in the lastest version (v0.7.9) The settings that i use to make it work are: Current Input Mode: PS5 Authentication Settings: Host USB And finally at the top right select "arcade stick"

[@yourboyneeto]

Thank you for sharing! Hope it gets better for me, still experiencing timeouts during sessions

[@warwickrework519]

I love switches sound

[@yourboyneeto]

me too, super creamy

[@herrozx]

Great review Neeto! It looks like a great controller but the connectivity issues revolving around the PS5 immediately make it a no go for me. Stuck between picking up a Kitsune or Overdrive.

[@yourboyneeto]

That’s what I’m sayin! I’ve heard good things about the kitsune but I kinda wish it worked on PS4 as well 😭

[@ciscorey6520]

Can you map left/right direction input to the extra buttons? Thanks in advance.

[@yourboyneeto]

@Zevaeros put out a very thorough GP2040-CE remapping tutorial check it out!

[@Ksmooth2022]

Not that this will help at tournaments but I was having the same issue on Ps5 with it just stopped working. I tried many things like updating and what not. Finally spoke with haute discord and found out plugging my adapter directly into the ps5 then the leverless into that solved the issue completely.

[@yourboyneeto]

Wait I’m gonna try this???

[@jbeast_tek]

I have not used the r16 specifically but the t13 works just fine on ps5, it never times out, and I have not had any problem with it

[@yourboyneeto]

What adapter are you using?

[@jagtaggart936]

I got mine in April. It is comfortable to use but after three months of regular use the usb out port has been giving me issues. It feels looser than before and will only work now with my newer usb c cables that connect nice and firmly to it This is apparently not an uncommon problem after I did some digging online for help. So be aware if you're thinking about getting one.

[@yourboyneeto]

Interesting thanks for sharing, I did notice the usb C to be quite secure so I’ll try to not yank the cable out as much, very good advice

[@kappalord2680]

got both r16 and s16, liked s16 better because im playing on desktop but i guess for everyone different sizes

[@yourboyneeto]

Love how small the s16 is, Lowkey looking into getting a G16

[@synqFPS]

ive gotten used to kbd's on the T16 without rims but the rims look very intriguing would you say it would make a difference? i pretty much slide over the buttons

[@yourboyneeto]

T16 buttons are all 30mm so it’ll be a different experience as your fingers are more spaced out. R16 is 24mm and the rim hits your fingertips before the panel, it’s hard to describe but it makes a lot of difference imo

[@synqFPS]

@@yourboyneeto hmm let me ask like this then how different is the "kbd-cheesing" with SOCD compared to the T16 if you do own both? sorry if this is super specific but thats my only question. edit: I think you are doing it at 6:34 - I hope its as easy as it is on the T16 as i've gotten super accustomed to it.

[@yourboyneeto]

@@synqFPSI don’t own a T16 but I had the chance to try out my friends on Tekken. Personally, since I’m used to 24mm buttons it was lowkey awkward to use (and kbd) just because of the spacing. Wasn’t aware it was called KBD CHEESING 😂 I’ve just always done it like that tbh

[@synqFPS]

@@yourboyneeto theres no real term for it lmao, thanks for your helpful insight tho i very much appreciate it. Sounds like the rims dont make a difference then.

[@FrameData1990]

How does sliding the buttons feel? The t16 had a chance to kind of pop the buttons,they feel no where as nice as sanwa

[@yourboyneeto]

Because of the rings sliding makes it so much easier, feeling is almost 1:1 to sanwas but with a matte finish - very smooth otherwise

[@noidsuper]

How is this different from the T16 available on Amazon?

[@yourboyneeto]

T16 has bigger buttons and no rims, also different switches (just reds) my friend owns a T16 and I couldn’t get over how big the buttons were it was kinda weird - I’ll make a community post rn

[@yourboyneeto]

Just made the post, it’s the T13 mb

[@noidsuper]

@@yourboyneeto Good to know. I’ve got small hands so the size and spacing on the T version would be a dealbreaker for me

[@ogamitaicho77]

I have 2 of them used with a mayflash magic boot. Latest update on both with the good settings (arcade stick) the 1rst one wotked well on PS5 for some weeks. But now on both I have random disconnections. It can work perfectly well during hours but I still have random disconections sooner or later. No clear rule or reason why it works or not... I don't undertand why... 😭 Really a shame because the quality of the controller is realky good.

[@yourboyneeto]

Thank you so much for sharing! Looking into a workaround and lots of people are just saying it’s the adapter itself, might have to look into getting a Booter 5

[@ogamitaicho77]

@@yourboyneeto many thx for your reply. Yes. Let's hope that a new adapter will work properly in the future. 😀

[@Adalwolf17]

Someone should make a metal plate for the bottom of these to help with the flex.

[@yourboyneeto]

That’s a fantastic idea, might have to ask around for a metal guy - I’ll look into that for sure

[@Adalwolf17]

@@yourboyneeto If you find someone I would love to order one for the r16 I just ordered :)

[@ltxr9973]

Based Xiaoyu player

[@yourboyneeto]

#LINGNATION

[@romerothefighter]

You have to cop the new brook converter

[@yourboyneeto]

Do you own one? I heard there’s lag when using it normally - hoping Brook competes and makes a smaller adapter for these external ports bc the big ones really hang out of the controller

[@C7oudstrife]

FIRST🥇

[@badtzkoala8345]

I see a lot of good reviews on these controllers but the amount of extra buttons makes me feel like I’ll fuck up and press them instead of the intended one

[@yourboyneeto]

It’s actually not difficult at all, but takes adjustment if you’re use to standard hitbox layout. You kinda have to train your brain to make use of the extra buttons

[@badtzkoala8345]

@@yourboyneeto fair enough, I’m slightly interested.

[@carloz28]

This controller doesn’t work on ps4

[@yourboyneeto]

make sure you're holding the right button when you plug it in, it's Y or △ for PS4. hope that helps!