The BEST MLB Players To Get ZERO Hall of Fame Votes

[@AndThatsBaseball]

“In the 70s I threw in the 90s, in the 90s I threw in the 70s” - Frank Tanana

[@kidcrumpet3333]

Top Ootp quote

[@Baseballify]

"And that’s baseball “

[@AndThatsBaseball]

@@Baseballify “Baseballify ⚾️”

[@davidjohnson6611]

Tanana was a beast great quote

[@luiszuluaga6575]

Almost a Yogi-ism! 😂

[@samplott8388]

I absolutely loved Carl Crawford during his heyday. He was extremely underrated and so valuable to those Rays teams. It was tough watching him essentially fall off a cliff when he signed with the Red Sox. If he would’ve had 3-5 more seasons comparable to his Rays years, I seriously think he would be in the HOF.

[@ShahidKhan-rx2ry]

At of rights to the mighty

[@docvader82]

That was cool. First video I've seen of yours.

[@bdeezy1794]

One of if not the best base stealers of his era. Along with Juan Pierre of the top of my head

[@fuktrumpanzeeskum]

​@Ganja Guy what affected Crawford's play was the multiple injuries he suffered in the 2 seasons he was on Boston, not how much the fans give a crap.

[@luisgutierrez7714]

Carl Crawford was a BEAST

[@thenextsteveblackman]

Jimmy Wynn shouldn't have just gotten a few votes, he should legit be in the HOF. He played in the most offense-depleted era in the worst hitter's park and still put up great numbers. Dude could hit for power, run, play defense, and drew a ton of walks.

[@jayt4465]

Probably the worst hitters park for home runs at least in history.

[@raishauntanner4206]

Put the Toy Cannon in the HoF

[@WantonBaby]

My cousin an I were making our favourite lineups in the early 70’s Our selections were almost the same except He chose LUZ Greg Luzinski I chose WYNN Jimmy

[@justinalley3399]

Jimmy Wynn nowhere close too being a hall of famer

[@ellisblom339]

absolutely

[@ice-iu3vv]

cecil cooper also warrants mention among players who got 0 votes. some of the best players STILL not in the hall include dick allen, dave parker, elston howard, and graig nettles. billy wagner isnt in either, and he is, beyond doubt, the greatest lefty closer of all time. shouldnt you be able to construct an all-time team from the hall of fame? why shouldnt the best lefty closer of all time warrant induction on that basis alone? nolan ryan said wagner was the hardest thrower he ever saw. the quality of numbers isnt in doubt at all, just a lack of quantity (total saves), and a suspect reputation for durability.

[@sirstewartwallace3917]

You forgot the most famous detail of McDowell: he was the inspiration for Sam Malone on Cheers.

[@Panda10million]

Love the Devon White mention. He is one of my favourite former jays and was a part of the deadly core of WAMCO.

[@TheGodYouWishYouKnew]

Devon White was a really good player and exciting to watch but he doesn’t deserve hall of fame votes and that’s not an insult. Very few players should get votes.

[@eduardopena5893]

The poor man's Kenny Lofton, who was better in every way.

[@KC-bg1th]

Would be interesting to see who the HoF competition was for some of these players. Like maybe it was a case of being completely overlooked and being unlucky to have retired at the same time as other legends. If there’s a Griffey Junior eligible, can you blame the guys for getting tunnel vision? That type of thing.

[@ricadelman7648]

Cecil Cooper. 5x all-star, 2x gold glove, 2x AL RBI leader, .298 career BA, .300 or better 7 straight seasons including.352 in 1980. Led AL in doubles 2x.

[@mph7282]

Copper and Wynn are the two most “egregious 0 vote getters”. And Coop can’t even get on a to 10 list of “egregious 0 vote getters”. Sad.

[@eduardopena5893]

And what players were his competition in his era? That's what a lot of people forget to talk about in these types of videos. That's why guys like Fred McGriff and Raphael Palmeiro (pre steroid kerfuffle) didn't get much run. While they were both very good, they weren't the best in their era.

[@nicholaso4302]

I know they don’t constitute mention in this specific post, but Johan Santana, Carlos Delgado, and Alfonso Soriano definitely deserved longer HOF looks

[@jackstevens585]

Santana should definitely get a longer look! During his prime stretch batters knew what was coming and couldn’t hit him. I think if he didn’t commit career suicide, signing with the Mets😂, he would be in the Hall or gotten a better look. However this is coming from someone who has Twinkie cream for brains and also bleeds Purple 😊

[@timfool]

Delgado and Soriano should be in the HOF

[@StefanWB]

Delgado and Soriano are definitely players worthy of the Hall of Very Good, but not the HOF. Soriano had a high profile due to coming up with the Yankees, and had a 6.1 bWAR season with the Nats in 2006, but he was a poor defender at second base who then moved to left field where he was slightly better but still not good, and his OPS+ for the part of his career where he played left was 113 - above average, but not a HOFer by any means. Soriano struck out on 21.5% of his plate appearances, while only walking on 5.9%. And yes, he led the AL in stolen bases (41) in 2002, but he was also caught stealing 13 times. The problem with Delgado is his numbers tanked after his age-32 season. Delgado became an everyday player in 1996, and between '96 and '04, his entire tenure with the Blue Jays, he accumulated 38.1 bWAR in 1,341 games, which is a very good pace. Up to his age-32 season, Delgado's career was comparable to the likes of Fred McGriff and Mark Teixeira. But after turning 33 and joining the Marlins his numbers began to tank. His 11.4 oWAR through his final five seasons isn't terrible but he was either a terrible defensive first baseman or a DH. He could still clobber the ball but his walk rate dropped while his strikeout numbers stayed the same. And sadly, he only ever played in one postseason, during the Mets' run to the NLCS in 2006 - he was awesome in that postseason, slugging .826 in the NLCS against the Cardinals, but that was his one appearance. Maybe if he had some playoff moments or made it to 500 HRs he might've got in. I'm not going to talk much about Santana because the case for his induction has been covered, and he's basically a litmus test for peak vs. longevity when it comes to Hall worthiness, but IMO he should be in the Hall.

[@nicholaso4302]

@@StefanWB I’m truly not gonna take the time to read that but I’m sure it’s all very informative

[@StefanWB]

@@nicholaso4302 Fair.

[@TheTEN24]

So this video has taught me that great CF play is under appreciated. Some of these dudes deserve to possibly be even in let alone getting votes. For example, beltran and jones are HOF players

[@fuktrumpanzeeskum]

Carlos Beltran, Torii Hunter, Jim Edmonds, Andruw Jones, Dale Murphy, there's quite a few centerfielders who should be in the HoF but fit snubbed.

[@ILoveMisty1985]

Great to see Willie Davis get his credit. He's easily the best player that had never made it on the ballot in modern voting. Anyways, shoutout to Mark Langston who put up 50.1 bWAR but who is now remembered for the infamous Randy Johnson trade, the man he later lost against in the 1995 AL West tiebreak. He had zero votes in his one appearance on the ballot in 2005.

[@Jlundeen]

I was at that game. As a hometown Mariner fan when I was a kid, I was a Langston fan, being one of the few bright spots on an awful team. It was bittersweet that it was him Randy beat to get the M's to the playoffs for the first time.

[@WantonBaby]

I was thinking of Willie just a couple hours ago

[@philb.1502]

Al Oliver needs to be in the Hall of Fame. He was a lifetime .303 hitter ! He also won the batting title in 1982 and had over 2700 hits in his career.

[@rodolforudygarcia3513]

Agree 100 %, and Ellis Burks, Dwight Evans, Bill Madlock

[@davidjohnson6611]

Excellent video I agree most of these ridiculous statistics don't measure anything there are too many variables to consider. You can tell a good ball player by watching them it's that simple and it's not their fault that they're stuck on teams that can't hit or run or if they are on the mound can't play defense or score runs themselves. Excellent list good job

[@gardenboydon]

It would be dope to see you do a similar video. Players who didn't receive a single mvp vote despite great seasons

[@mjisthegoat88]

That would be an amazing video. I would be happy to help research it too

[@martinzaehringer1697]

When I was a kid, I read in Sports Illustrated that Ken Singleton while playing for the Expos in the early 70s, went out to dinner with his girlfriend who was French-Canadian and a couple visiting from France (friends or relatives of hers). The French guy began complaining about the United States war in Vietnam. Singleton said, "If it wasn't for us, the Germans would still be goose-stepping thru Paris. Come on honey, dinner's over."

[@tdavis7702]

Great defense is only now being appreciated thanks to sabermetrics and statcast. Shortstops and center fielders were undervalued for so long. Hopefully Andruw Jones and Scott Rolen can earn more votes on the ballot this year. Not to mention Kenny Lofton and Bobby Grich.

[@Covert_Smalls]

Both from a numbers standpoint and the eye test, Mark Langston deserves a mention. Stacks up very closely with Wells and Tanana

[@cb-tz8og]

Great picks, and great piece. it’s good to see these guys get some recognition. It’s hard to believe that there wasn’t a single vote for the entire group.

[@apple-xx2or]

Peavy and Crawford should have some votes but I do agree with them not being in the hall yet but I would put them as legends to certain franchises

[@jamescook6564]

Andy Van Slyke, Barry Bonds & Bobby Bonilla was a great outfield combination for the Pirates.

[@steviesevieria1868]

Bonds is a dirty cheater. Forget him. Van Slyke was a great fielder, but nowhere near HOF hitter. Bonilla was so big he was a barely an OF.

[@David-vw2gr]

@@steviesevieria1868 he didn’t cheat on the pirates. Do you consider McGwire a dirty cheater also? Just curious.

[@steviesevieria1868]

@@David-vw2gr You’re right, Bonds wasn’t cheating while he was on the Pirates. At least not enough to turn into the Incredible Hulk. Other cheaters who’s stats should be expunged and never put in the hall, of course McGwire, also Canseco, Sosa, Clemens, Arod, Larry Walker…. many more but these are some of the big names.

[@DRendon12]

@@steviesevieria1868 I hear ya, but it's part of history, can't erase that. Bonds turning into the Incredible Hulk was a treat to watch, fair or not.

[@steviesevieria1868]

@@DRendon12 One person’s treat is another person’s toilet flush. I stopped watching MLB when the steroid abuse became apparent, and I’ve never gone back. Don’t miss the boredom, don’t miss the beards, don’t miss any of it.

[@DrAnarchy69]

As a Yankees fan, can confirm that Ken Singleton is a legend. You’re right, it’s quite rare that a player announcer who wasn’t a former Yankee is lauded by our fanbase (a lot of us are also just assholes who harass the fathers of players) but Singleton is just so charming.

[@pokeysdad17]

singleton was a fine player.

[@SamGlaze]

The main takeaway I got from this video is that I now finally know where the “Greg Gibson, The home plate umpire” audio is from

[@O-D-X]

Several of those guys you mentioned from the 70s and 80s had off field issues that tarnished their reputations and in the case of Singleton, the vast majority of his at bats were at the DH, and at that time nobody that was primarily a DH got any votes.

[@firebird6522]

Good point on Singleton.

[@eduardopena5893]

Ken Singleton never led the league in anything, save for OBP once. He hit 30 homers only once in his career. It has everything to do with who you play against in your era. The thing he was best at, others were better at for almost his entire career. That does not make you a HOF player.

[@pancreaticlemons7069]

al oliver is the best one that comes to mind. he is one of the most underrated players ever because of how good his teammates were. stuck behind the shadows of clemente, mazeroski, stargell, and dave parker. you should do a dive into him, cool guy

[@fuktrumpanzeeskum]

And Bill Madlock was another underrated Pirates guy

[@waltparrett6907]

Agree!!

[@luscorpio3679]

Jimmy Wynn's case is the most perplexing to me when you look at what you presented. I guess he lacked name recognition?

[@RockiesCanada]

Not quite this video but Dave Stieb, the best pitcher of the 80s, only received 7 hall of fame votes on his ballot

[@Realamerixan]

Snoop dog standing at the plate backwards is amazing lmao

[@productreviewandadvice-pau5083]

Thanks for putting this together, or other names from the past, bring back memories. And you’re right most of these deserve some votes.

[@cesarthegreeneyedbandit7162]

Thank you for giving 3-Dog his 💐💐💐 It's sad that he doesn't get more recognition. Willie Davis you were great

[@skiprockjr.6881]

HoJo got 0 votes. He belongs in the Hall. He's still the only switch-hitter with multiple 30/30 Clubs, which he had 3 of. He's got 2 rings from 2 teams. Side note, Darrell Evans needs to get in. Look at the all time BB leaders. He's 12th. Of the top 30 everyone but Barry Bonds (1st), Eddie Yost (11th), Pete Rose (14th), Bobby Abreu (20th), Gary Sheffield (21st), and Dwight Evans (29th) are in the Hall. He batted .248, but has 400+ HR, 2000+ hits, a 58.8 WAR, 2 All-Star Games, and a ring.

[@OfficialLc4]

I was actually at that game in 2014 with Peavy vs deGrom, sitting in the back right side corner of the stadium, it was the 4th inning I kinda jinxed deGrom throwing a no-hitter (which I regret cause both of them was throwing a no-hitter into the 7th inning if I’m not mistaken) and overall, one of the better pitching dominant games I’ve actually been too

[@CharmCityGamer]

Thanks Mike! It's just a damn shame Jose Fernandez died before he even hit his prime. I'm confident he could've had a HOF worthy career!

[@izaman56]

If only he was alive long enough to be traded

[@TheMrzero35]

Great video dude ! Giving real good players alittle pop was very interesting and brought back memories.

[@fredaaron762]

Great list. I think Tanana's case suffered since he started his career as a lefthanded Nolan Ryan with an incredible power pitching game, but hurt his arm and became a soft tosser. Jimmy Wynn has a career batting average of .250. At the time of his lone ballot appearance, that mattered more to voters than it does now. They also didn't take into account that he spent most of his career in two of the toughest parks for hitters, the Astrodome and Dodger Stadium. Three guys you didn't mention were Roy White, Mark Langston and Steve Rogers. Like Wynn, White had a solid OPS but a fairly pedestrian batting average, at a time when BA was important to voters. Langston and Rogers both had career WARs over 40, but not great won-loss records. Both were perennial All Stars but somehow didn't get a single vote. Finally, I'll point out that Amos Otis and Ken Singleton started their careers with the Mets but were traded away when they were young. Maybe that mattered to HOF voters?

[@fuktrumpanzeeskum]

I think what mattered to voters was that Otis and Singleton (none of the guys you mentioned are HoF worthy) weren't HoF caliber players. They were above average to good level players but if we go putting any of them in then there's easily several dozen others who should be in too, gotta draw a line somewhere. Right now that line generally is around the 60-70 WAR mark. Most of the guys you mentioned are in the 40-50 WAR range. Again, good players, just not even really considered borderline HoFers by most people.

[@ElFlako26]

Peavy was my first favorite pitcher once I started understanding baseball. Great pitcher intensity and heart and stats

[@elc1960]

Wynn had some phenomenal seasons along with some abysmal ones, but was hampered by the Astrodome. Singleton was a truly feared clutch hitter, and an underrated fielder. He was the Orioles' right fielder from 1975-1978, and didn't;t move to full-time DH until Eddie Murray became a full-time first baseman.

[@guessundheit6494]

I remember Darrin Erstad getting ~~~one~~~ vote a few years ago. One. He then asked the writer, "What were you thinking?" Tim Wakefield also got one lousy vote. Would he have made your list without it, the last true knuckleball pitcher? It also says a lot about the list that players like Mike Cameron, Mark Langston, Mike Henneman, Doyle Alexander, or Gary Matthews (rookie of the year!) don't even get honourable mentions.

[@calekarr10]

Shane Victorino, AJ Burnett, Josh Beckett, Youkilis, Troy Glaus. I'm not saying they're hall of fame worthy per se, but they deserved AT LEAST 1 vote, as a nod towards their careers. All solid guys, with high ceilings in their prime.

[@StarkRavingSports]

Troy Glaus is a great pick and honestly should’ve been in our list

[@calekarr10]

@StarkRavingSports Part two maybe.... 🤞

[@johnpenley]

While he did receive a handful of votes, another player that comes to mind is Lou Whitaker for the Tigers.

[@JohnMiller-jj9kx]

Great list, and you could probably make a couple more of these. Being very good just doesn’t count for much. Glad you brought them up. I watched everyone of these guys play throughout the 70’s as I was on a mission to get to all of the parks way back then. Did Vada Pinson ever get a vote?

[@danm6695]

The first test for HOF, ask the question…Will I ever say “(insert Team) is in town tonight. Let’s go see (insert player name or named with other players)”. You had some great names on here. Would it be possible that their first year of eligibility was against some top tier names? I know the writers can only vote for a number of candidates on their ballots but that has changed a number of times throughout the years.

[@davidmitchell6873]

I used to watch Chick Hafey back in the day. I could get a beer and hot dog for a nickel.

[@roberthudson1959]

Not to mention the simple fact that having a career long enough to qualify for the ballot is extraordinarily rare.

[@geeskin5750]

Grew up a royals fan, never knew Amos Otis did not get any Hof votes. Not saying he belongs, but no votes @ all?

[@anonymike8280]

Another guy who I think never got a vote was Stu Miller. Miller was one of the top relief pitchers in baseball over two decades, first in the National League in the 1950s and then in the American League in the 1960s. JAWs rates him the 15th relief pitcher in the history of the game. Baseball was played differently in that era and relief pitchers did not get the gaudy save numbers they later put up.

[@luiszuluaga6575]

The game itself lends itself to such an unusual tapestry of relationships, not only between the pitcher/catcher/batter but also wherever the ball winds up relative to the position player and runner. There are so many stories that come out of this particular game/sport. Baseball is the only sport that engenders sentiment as well as memory in our national consciousness.

[@PaulBrower-py7tv]

OPS. This makes someone like Lou Whitaker an all-time great. 20 homers a year was a lot for a slick-fielding 2B. One might adjust for the time or disqualified those who had better play due to chemistry, Pete Rose, or the Black Sox

[@edrueter9]

Tanana is the Testeverde of the MLB. Solid for a long time, but never truly spectacular. Another interesting comparison is Frank Gore. Is Frank Gore a hall of famer? Yes, if you are a stat compiler guy, no, if you are a peak performance, or top-of-the-league guy.

[@kevinmassey1164]

I’m really surprised Tanana had zero HoF votes

[@r.a.miller9385]

Great premise for a video. Can't wait to watch it.

[@brendanables7367]

Frank Tanana was the first former player to sign a card through the mail for me about 6-ish years ago. He’s one of the nicest guys in the history of the game when it comes to signing autographs for fans and responding to fan mail

[@timfool]

Yes, he use to put a bible verse in his signature.

[@jaytrace1006]

I say Wynn and Tanana should get in. Crawford should get some consideration. And, as a Royals fan for 50 years, the greatest trade they ever made was for Amos Otis. He brought stability and respectability to a 1969 expansion team, helping them to two American League championship series less than a decade later.

[@JohnSmith-zw8vp]

Andy Van Slyke was especially surprising; he was leader of the Buccaneers in the late 80s/early 90s! Frank Tanana was surprising too...

[@themediamarauder1582]

I would hope some of these guys will finally make it at some point. There are some great players on this list!

[@grubu4131]

There's a bunch of players that got a few votes from beat writers of their specific team. 'Feel Good' votes, knowing they would only get handful and be of ballot, and not get any real consideration, but they could vote for someone that meant a lot to the home team, made ballot, but was never gonna make HOF. Those guys would not make list but if we are honest, those guys would not get a real vote and a lot of writers don't do this, think it's usually symbolic for small market teams than anything.

[@studgerbil9081]

HoF voting changed in the late '70s. Keep in mind, most years fewer than half of the eligible players (10+ seasons) are selected to the HoF ballot. Some years, only 20-25% are on there. Before 1979, there were seasons with only 2-4 players out of 20 eligibles that got on the ballot. The BBWAA opened it up in '79 and '80 to vote on a lot of players from before that had not been included. In '81, they went back to the same old routine of putting 25% of eligibles on the ballot. Davis retired in '79 and was eligible for '85 along with 27 other players, but 14 were put on the ballot. That's pretty high by the usual standards, but he was missed by the selection committee. My best guess for why ALL eligible players aren't included is sheer volume, not that I agree with it. Most years after expansion, there are 40-50 players retiring with 10+ years service. With only 10 names on each ballot, there is no way a player is gonna get even one vote, and little chance of getting 5% to remain on. The solution, to me, is to open the voting wide open to allow more than 10 players each ballot, while keeping the 75% for selection rule. That gives a lot more good players a second or third chance when their first ballot is crammed with great players.

[@stdutch5172]

Thank you for mentioning Amos Otis. As a Kansas school boy, I absolutely worshipped the man back in the day.

[@camberweller]

Andy Van Slyke is easy to explain: he was interesting, and sportswriters often hate that. “Axxhole” they can deal with, they’re used to it. “Boring” they can deal with, because it makes them feel clever which is pretty much where every journalist wants to live, all the time. “Weird” they can accept, because it allows them to look down on the player, and journalists love looking down on other people almost as much as they love feeling clever. “Nice” they can accept, because everybody likes being Niced at. But “interesting” touches off their substantial insecurities, especially if it comes with a touch of Python that they can’t write off as just “weird”, and that was Van Slyke.

[@MattLemonsackMusic]

As far as the guys I’m familiar with, I kind of understand them not getting a vote, but it depends on who else was on the ballot at the time. I couldn’t see them in the hall, but I’m sure they had better careers than some guys who did get votes lol. Theme seems to be guys whose primes didn’t stretch long enough. Also met Tanana at a signing. He was very personable and pleasant

[@StefanWB]

Writers who understand tactical voting will sometimes vote players that they know have no shot of making the Hall, but will vote them anyway because they don't want to see them miss the cut-off and fall off the ballot after only one or two appearances. The fact that none of these players had even one writer who was willing to go for bat for them, just to keep them on the ballot, is what's so crazy about this list of players.

[@steviesevieria1868]

@@StefanWB not so crazy, these guys were marginal. Here’s a logical fallacy that we don’t wanna fall into. Just because people are in the hall that don’t deserve to be there, doesn’t mean we should load it up with more people that don’t deserve to be there.

[@dc7993]

I only remember Peavy from his later years with the Giants, I loved the fact he literally could not see to the point where Buster Posey had to color his fingers so he could give him signs 😭, he was still nasty for how old he was too

[@UnicornOfDepression]

Vaughn was teammates with Ken Caminiti in SD. He was JUICED. Peavy's 2007 was unreal. Triple Crown and took the Padres(!) to the playoffs. AVS deserved some votes, at least.

[@explorewithme4707]

I LOL even harder when I saw it was the most replayed…. As I replayed it. 😂👀🤣☠️ Everyone enjoyed that slide.

[@MarlinWilliams-ts5ul]

The problem with Sudden Sam is he liked to celebrate too much after the game.

[@jasonglasser1621]

As a Pirates fan, I can tell you exactly why Van Slyke never got a vote: he played for the Pirates. We were half decent during his career (and had a lot of players who would go on to do well elsewhere *cough some scrub named Bonds cough*) but became ass right at the end of his career, and stayed ass during the whole time he was waiting to make the ballot, as well as the year he was on it. People looked at the list, saw a Pirate, thought about what the Pirates were at the time of the ballot (not what we were when he played) and didn't even consider it. Being the single biggest joke of a franchise in professional sports, which we were at the time (2001 was the year he was on the ballot, right in the middle of the consecutive-under-500-seasons run) kind of clouds people's judgment of the franchise even from things that were definitively before that era.

[@mrmc9278]

Andruw Jones not getting in the HOF is criminal. Best defensive CF I ever saw.

[@riltalk4055]

If Ozzie Smith gets in primarily for his defense, why can’t Andruw? Dude had well over 400+ career homers.

[@jmillshobbies6344]

Maybe one day, they did do the right thing and vote in Mcgriff, Murphey got alot of votes, so there is hope for Jones

[@josephbaker9974]

Dude twice had 10 or more errors. Good but that’s not acceptable

[@S0appy-t8w]

@@josephbaker9974 errors aren’t a good way to judge defense

[@jmillshobbies6344]

@@josephbaker9974 out of how many chances

[@qfmarsh64]

Centerfielders are probably overrepresented on this list because you ordered it by WAR and centerfielders get a boost in WAR just for playing a premium defensive position. But the weird thing is, so do catchers and shortstops, but of the three, only shortstops get HOF love purely for defensive prowess (Ozzie Smith is in the Hall, Omar Vizquel is on the border). The Hall needs some more catchers and centerfielders, IMHO. They can start with this list and Jeff Mathis.

[@rcroteau1]

Yankees left fielder Roy White had a 46.8 WAR - and did a lot of the little stuff that gets overlooked, leading the team (and sometimes league) in sacrifices and walks. He was great at avoiding hitting into double plays. Only knock on him was a weak throwing arm - but he still managed to wrack up 43 assists. His career fielding % was .988.

[@JayTemple]

I sometimes say that a player went -1 for 3 if he hits into a double play. I can appreciate the skill of a player who avoids them.

[@bperry573]

What are your thoughts on going back over the history with these new stat parameters to grandfather some of the underappreciated stars into the HOF?

[@eduardopena5893]

Great list. Now all you have to do to answer your own questions about these players is compare them to the other players they were playing against in their eras that actually won all the awards and led the leagues in all the categories you are mentioning. In a lot of these cases, these players might have had a good run of a few years through a long career. That's not good enough. Other cases are of being rather good for most of their career, but being outdone by other players during their careers that were better. Why would you bring up Jose Altuve, a second baseman, to compare to an outfielder?

[@dahill3162]

Breaking Bad shirt and a Sopranos reference, I think this might be my kind of sports channel 👍

[@BillyBob-wq9fl]

Yeah Jake Peavy was my favorite player for awhile. What a stud! I loved this guy.. his two seamer was wicked. Him and Greg Vaughn playing for the Padres will get you no love nor recognition.

[@Gravy_Jones22]

Thank you for saying that WAR isn't the end all stat.

[@stevesmart170]

The first one to really surprise me with zero votes was Andy Van Slyke. Probably some bias on my part as he always seemed to kill my Cubs, be it with a big catch, clutch hit, or both. But I would have bet money the Toy Cannon would have gotten solid consideration. Like 40-50 percent.

[@ryanthompsonthompson820]

When you say all-time, do you mean the modern era 1900 to present or since 1876 when the National league formed?

[@TheEmpire822]

Wow I actually learned something, I didn’t know the gold glove award was an actual glove, it turns out it’s an actual glove the same model they used that season that’s completely gold. And that’s cool, I always thought it was metal, and it just makes it so much cooler that it’s an actual glove

[@Qardo]

The MLB Hall of Fame is like the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. There are a lot of great artists (players) who should be in. Yet, they get overlooked and somehow the Hall picks a rapper over a literal rock band that changed history. So there are players that never reach the Hall of Fame and they did things no one never did at the time. Meanwhile, they will put in some person who never picked up a bat over them....yeah...

[@maxbaker5393]

Video request: Last week, former Ottawa Senators goalie Andrew Hammond retired. In 2015, he was considered a cult hero in Ottawa, and I remember. Can you please make a video on him in your cult heroes series?

[@mikeyposs3132]

Maury Wills - MVP. Changes the game forever. 3 time world champion.

[@jacktheripper8817]

Baseball writers might be the least informed writers of any sport. This is something completely different but in 1984 cal ripken had a 10.0 WAR and finished 27th in MVP voting he had 1 vote. Not 1 1stvplace vote but 1 vote with a 10.0 WAR.

[@zevsteinhardt6221]

What about Roy White? 46.8 WAR, 41.9 JAWS. Excellent defensive player, 15 year career, 121 OPS+. On the ballot in 1985, no votes.

[@davidwartski7213]

Al Oliver became eligible in 1991, but he only received 4.3% of the vote , so he fell off the ballot. .303 lifetime BA and 2,743 hits. He can still be enshrined by the Veterans Committee, but it appears that his chances are slim.

[@DipreG]

I really enjoyed this video. Nice work.

[@stevehardman4686]

Vern Stephens, going by baseball reference has a career war of 55.5, never received a HOF vote so far as I can find any record of(Bill James wrote about his case extensively in a book about the HOF while noting he never received a HOF vote). Missing him on your list, is kind of like missing Babe Ruth from a list of the top HR hitters.

[@DaDitka]

This is an excellent call. His record deserves at least a few votes.

[@stevehardman4686]

@@DaDitka I think that his story was that he was a drinker who was considered a negative influence as a result, and that voters at the time thought that his stats were misleading since they were inflated in his prime years by playing at Fenway. Also, his WAR was 85% based on his offense, defensively he was considered nothing special, in the middle of his career he did sign a contract to play in Mexico instead of MLB, although he did return to MLB almost immediately after that, and he was finished as a big league regular at 30. Also, I am sure that some argued his RBI numbers were inflated as a result of hitting cleanup right behind Ted Williams. I am not saying he should be in the HOF, but based on his stats alone, he should have been a contender, not someone who never got a vote.

[@DaDitka]

@@stevehardman4686 I think you are spot on. I remember reading Bill James' book on the Hall of Fame (regardless of what one thinks about James, the book is outstanding), and he brought up the conventional wisdom of day which said that Vern Stephens was a product of the ballpark where he played (Fenway). So he wasn't as good of a player as his numbers said he was (of course, he played exceptionally well when he was in St. Louis, but never mind. Lol). But his drinking may have had a lot to do with it as well. I don't know if he legitimately reaches thr level of a Hall of Fame shortstop. I'd have to look at his stats again. But I agree, he should have at least received a couple of votes. It's really a shame that he didn't. I know I pretty much parroted what you just said. It's just that I agree with you and couldn't think of a wag to express it differently from you. Lol

[@stevehardman4686]

@@DaDitka Weeks later, it is disappointing to not see such a glaring omission addressed in one way or another :(

[@DaDitka]

@@stevehardman4686 Agreed.

[@edwardconstantineau6053]

its nice to see ted simmons appreciation, my grandpa went to high school with him and always talks about how good he was

[@InfinityOnHighx1]

Jim Wynn had 3 seasons where he had more walks than hits. He even had 13 walks in the postseason to only 5 hits

[@JeremyWaldrop-ls2pn]

Good video the unknown soldiers of MLB a quick shout out to Lance Parish n Gary Gaetti.⚾️

[@MrMartyO1]

I like the show, but the WAR stat has nothing to do with a team's wins with a player over his replacement. If so, what were Cal Ripken Jr. or Lou Gehrig's WAR when they literally had no replacement for almost their entire career?

[@taojones8]

Andy Van Slyke of the early 90s Pirates was my favorite player as a kid. Sad that he got zero HOF votes.

[@davefreeman1598]

Thank you for this great Video!!

[@gregb6469]

Another player who should be getting more HOF attention is Joe Carter. He had 10 100+ RBI seasons. His career BA, HR, and RBI numbers are very similar (higher in the latter two) to Gary Carter's, who did (deservedly) get elected.

[@therealest297]

The way that the MLB puts older “decent” players that played in the 1940s and prior on a pedestal baffles me. The guys in the 80s-00s don’t get their due.

[@michaelbaucom4019]

Tanana and Singleton not getting votes shocked me

[@Orisitdonald]

Love the Lofe bit in here🤣🤣🤣

[@infinitygamer1463]

No lie. I was at Peavy vs deGrom perfect game duel too 😂

[@adamexenvironmental4468]

BERNIE WILLIAMS SHOULD BE IN THE HALL OF FAME. He was clean, he was clutch , he was an intricate part of one of the greatest dynasties ever in the history of MLB…He was also a huge contributor for,quite arguably, the greatest team ever (1998). This dynasty would not have existed without him. He did it all.Just consider how many play off appearances he has and his successes as a switch hitter and center fielder …His name and contributions are in the same league as Mantle and DiMaggio and it’s ridiculous that he has been snubbed.

[@daveforeman6931]

Alvin Dark- a shame he is not in the Hall of Fame. If not for war service, he would have even more stats to add. Had enough as it was, in my opinion.

[@bobconway5958]

Where was the hom town press. Some of these guys should definitely be in the hall. I guess if you are a superstar on a below average team you do not warrant consideration. McDowell and Wynn fit this description. McDowells wins were low because he had little support. good video

[@Mr.MikeBarksdale]

Frank Tanana deserves a second look if for no other reason than a 20 year big league career is a phenomenal accomplishment. Every baseball player has an opportunity cost--an economic term used to say that with that roster spot someone else is not being selected. Poor players don't have 20 year careers. Every one of those seasons a team said, "We would rather have this player than another player." Look at players who have accomplished that feat and they are almost all Hall of Famers. Like it or not, showing up is a skill and some guys have it--usually guys who played the game the right way.

[@TheEmpire822]

Geez this video is just full of hidden gems.. who knew you could earn a World Series ring by being an addiction counselor.. I know they kinda get ring crazy and give everyone a ring and I know the office and players rings are different but still for a guy who played in the league I bet it meant alor

[@frankgoldman3313]

Tanana and Wynn should be in the HOF. Devon White, perhaps. Ted Simmons? Harold Baines? Maybe not.

[@williamhild1793]

Considering the guys already in the hall of fame who were good, but not great, then yes...these guys should have gotten a vote or two for hall of fame. But honestly, it wouldn't be that tough to get the hall of fame down to a REAL hall of fame. Including the founders/managers and so on, a hall of fame of about 75-100 guys sounds about right.