THE BEST NEUMANN NDH 30 review

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Sanjay C

Sanjay C

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@kingyasofficial
@kingyasofficial 2 жыл бұрын
Had my NDH 30s for two months now, definitely the best headphones I've listened to so far, Beyerdynamics is too harsh for me🤷🏾‍♂️
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear a happy user! Thanks, King Yas!
@RocoV08
@RocoV08 Жыл бұрын
How good/bad is the clamping force of these? I've been using the HD 660S and the clamping force is just killing me, can't wear them anymore even tho they sound great
@kingyasofficial
@kingyasofficial Жыл бұрын
@@RocoV08 super comfortable, I forget i have them on sometimes
@RocoV08
@RocoV08 Жыл бұрын
@@kingyasofficial insane, might give these a try then, I'm looking for something I can wear for extended periods of time(6hrs+)
@kingyasofficial
@kingyasofficial Жыл бұрын
@@RocoV08 ok yea these the ones man fr
@itszivofficial
@itszivofficial 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video once again Sanjay! I was actually about to get the HD 650 to use as a mixing headphone. But would you say the Neumann NDH 30 is the closest you would get to a "speaker" referenced balanced sound? I always have used closed backs, but I tend to get ear fatigue sooner as I don't use speakers as I am always on the go. Now I am hesitating on which one to go for after seeing this perfectly timed video 🤣🤣
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
I think the NDH 30 and NDH 20 are very close to a speaker reference. More than most other headphones.
@itszivofficial
@itszivofficial 2 жыл бұрын
@@SanjayC thanks Sanjay!
@massivebeatzz
@massivebeatzz 2 жыл бұрын
NDH 20 for that Bass analysis...HD600 for surgical, more linear than HD650. Get both!
@sebapare
@sebapare 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sanjay! Thank you for considering my request so quickly, it is really much appreciated! I haven't clicked on the "Buy" button yet, but your objective and complete review definitely helps me to see more clearly! Now my answers to your questions: - What headphones am I using today? AKG K702 - How much are you willing to spend on high quality headphones? To be honest, I thought that the price of my AKG headphones was already the limit. However, as I unfortunately don't have access to an acoustically treated room for my productions, I can only work on headphones... sometimes for whole days of "fine-tuning". So I'm looking for headphones that can at best reproduce the conditions of working with a pair of speakers, offer a mix that translates very well, that help solve problems with ease and certainty, that are robust and have a maximum of comfort. If they check all boxes, then spending 600€ could be an option. This is a large amount of money for sure, but compared to a good pair of speakers and the price of a room acoustic treatment, it remains reasonable. - Why do you use headphones? Mostly mixing
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sébastien! Thank you so much for the Super Thanks! Truly appreciate you supporting my work here. The AKG K702s are great headphones. Nice choice. I don't think the Neumann's will give you a huge difference in sound when mixing compared with the K702. Especially if you have already "learned" the sound of the K702, you will be better off keeping them. That's my opinion. Thanks for sharing your experience and answering the questions!
@sebapare
@sebapare 2 жыл бұрын
​@@SanjayC You're welcome! These are helpful insights! I might then keep my AKGs. What made me actually feel like "upgrading" is that I read here and there that these headphones lack some definition in bass/sub bass frequencies. I have no idea how much this is true so it gives me a kind of unsure feeling while mixing bass instruments.
@clickbaitpro
@clickbaitpro 2 жыл бұрын
@@sebapare You can buy another headphone that are good in bass like DT 700 Pro X
@AceeSoul
@AceeSoul 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! When I buy another pair of headphones 🎧 I think I may go with the 1990's. The NDH-30's seems great though.
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
I think I'm going to have to buy us lunch at this point! Thank you, Acee Soul! I love my 1990s...I think you will too
@margaretchristo6859
@margaretchristo6859 2 жыл бұрын
Thrilled to see you today! Great comparison video, Sanjay C. We’re getting close to the 500k mark!
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Yes...getting to 500k....let's do 400k first! :-D
@danielgharmann
@danielgharmann 2 жыл бұрын
I HAVE been waiting for this one! (Worth the wait.)
@Northpaal
@Northpaal 10 ай бұрын
I currently own the hd650 and I really want some more comfortable ones with 1 cable and wider soundstage, but I really like the flatness of them. Are these kind of the same as the 650s? I’m also using SoundID to calibrate my headphones. Would I enjoy these?
@darkcharmrecords
@darkcharmrecords 7 ай бұрын
They are heavier than my HD600s but they are very comfortable indeed. Absolutely nothing to complain about
@MasumAustralia
@MasumAustralia 2 жыл бұрын
I spent all day listening to studio headphones like Neumann NDH 20, Beyerdynamics DT 770 Pro, 880,990, Sony MDR750B, Audio Technica M 50x, and M30x using a headphone amp in Sydney's one of the biggest audio gear shops. NDH 20 sounds flat and muddy with no precise sound separation, and bearly can hear the highs or treble. Mids sound ok but not superb and didn't impress me with the sound stage. However, the built quality is outstanding though I felt it's heavier over my head. The ultimate champion is Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro sounds bang for the buck with exceptional sound separation with superbly well-balanced low, mid and high. Eventually, I bought a DT770 32ohm and returned it due to a lack of comfort using the leather ear pads, making my ears hot after a couple of minutes. Otherwise, this is stunning gear even for listening regular music. If I have to choose something for mids, Sony MDR750B can come to the top of the list, but it doesn't appeal to me for an overall listening experience.
@Only1Dharti
@Only1Dharti 2 жыл бұрын
❤️‍🔥Great video! Love the transitions and flow 👏🏽👏🏽! Also you look 👀🫠😍
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Awww...thank you!
@united100
@united100 Жыл бұрын
I bought these headphones and within two days returned them, they enhance the mid range frequencies to the point of disturbing the overall balance, mixing tracks with a wide spectrum of sounds is virtually impossible, at least for me, while editing vocals or individual tracks can be successful, The NDH 30 tends to hide the high frequencies in dynamic tracks, which causes imbalance, focusing and emphasizing the mids, unless you push the headphones a little back on your head, which causes the lows to fade out ,I am very disappointed
@g.o.9513
@g.o.9513 Жыл бұрын
Then, what headphones do you prefer?
@united100
@united100 Жыл бұрын
@@g.o.9513 I have been collecting headphones for years I own 12 pairs, starting with LCD-X, HD 800S, HD 650, DT 1990 etc. I tried to mix many times on each of them and I never succeeded, there was always a lot missing for the Mix to be perfect , Recently I bought 2 new pairs for my collection, NDH 30 and Focal clear MG professional, and a miracle happened, mixing with headphones is possible, and Focal gives you that opportunity, After years of trying, the only headphones I can mix properly on are FOCAL, .........NDH 30 is very underdeveloped and I personally don't believe that anyone can handle mixing on them
@keithdunwoody1302
@keithdunwoody1302 2 ай бұрын
I agree that the 30s are just really smooth but not hyped. A bit brighter than the HD600s but that fact is good for mixing so i don't overcompensate in that spectrum. They are a bit to work with and just listen with. Such a nice build and very comfy. Got mine second hand gently used, for a great price.
@brianu9253
@brianu9253 Жыл бұрын
Sanjay, I own the NDH30 and love them for their even tonal balance. Midrange is just right. I'd be fone with a bit more treble but I don't crave it. My problem is the assymetrical positioning of a relatively small driver. To get the sound i like I have to push the headphones all the way back so the front of my ear touches the front of the earpad. Do the 1990s have a tonality that is relatively balanced. In other words, I do not like recessed mids, boomy bass, exagerated lower midrange etc. Do the 1990s compare tonaly to the ndh30s?
@JRMartell1992
@JRMartell1992 Жыл бұрын
i dont know what to choose 1990s or neuman ndh 30 for vocal mix please help
@michaelmurphy7241
@michaelmurphy7241 2 жыл бұрын
I have made many purchases because of you brother thank you for all your videos
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
You're so welcome. Have you been happy with everything you've got for your studio?
@michaelmurphy7241
@michaelmurphy7241 2 жыл бұрын
@@SanjayC yes i have prosonus studio one 5 program the focusrite 4i4 and the AkgP420 studio microphone i am stll in between in the mini keyboards they have so many to choose from and your video on those keyboards make me want either the Akai mini mpk 3 of the Arturia Minilab which one is the best. this is a sample of mu music kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqTGlZ6ZgK6Uqdk
@thejacevekexperience
@thejacevekexperience 2 жыл бұрын
Wider sound stage, and mid range clarity are my biggest needs. I ordered NDH 30's a few days ago, Im looking forward to hear how they can help me level up on mix/masters
@rola8597
@rola8597 2 жыл бұрын
How are these cans? I'm planning on getting these instead of studio monitors cause my room needs serious acoustic work done. I'm just a little worried cause I've read that it's lacking on high end and it's hard to to even hear reverb tails. But I've read that they translate really well to other systems
@g.o.9513
@g.o.9513 Жыл бұрын
How are they?
@millies1264
@millies1264 9 ай бұрын
Yo how have they been working out?
@thejacevekexperience
@thejacevekexperience 9 ай бұрын
@@millies1264 how did they work out? Better question is how have I ever managed to work without them? No exaggeration. Once you get used to them, they are the gift that keeps on giving from mix to master .
@thejacevekexperience
@thejacevekexperience 9 ай бұрын
@@millies1264 the bang for buck here is sensational
@KillaHafiz89
@KillaHafiz89 2 жыл бұрын
I'm probably keeping my Beyerdynamic Dt1990. They've been perfect since I've managed to tame the harsh highs using the foam inserts from the amiron!
@shrednut
@shrednut 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the review Sanjay! I bought the NDH-20 on your recommendation from your old headphone videos. I like them a lot! but when the NDH-30s came out I wondered if I should get them as well … or instead. Tbh I think I’ll keep the 20s as a do-all headphone and add a different brand open back headphone (such as a Beyer) for mix comparison in the future. The 20s don’t boom but that frequency response goes low!! So low you could check your low end without a sub 😵‍💫
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
I think you would like the NDH 30s as a replacement for the 20s. But if you can afford to keep both...that's good too
@lostreverb9806
@lostreverb9806 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna buy new cans soon and this video helps 💯
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Let me know what you end up buying
@apoesk21
@apoesk21 2 ай бұрын
@SanjayC (or other) - Which of the two models 20/30 provide the most passive noise isolation? I am sitting in a open game development office, currently using the Beyerdynamics DT 700 ProX and want isolate even more! Thanks! Rune Denmark
@HarpiaProductions
@HarpiaProductions Жыл бұрын
Today I just bought the Neumann NDHh30's. So far they sound really flat which is great. I will be using them to mix mostly. I have been using the Audio Technica's and they were very bright. Now I will have to remix all my music based on the accurate sound of the Neumanns.
@iustingalea1547
@iustingalea1547 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm planning to buy the NDH30, coming from DT 770 Pro. My question is how loud is the sound that is getting out, I have a quiet environment, but I'm curious if there are really loud, with may be inconvenient. Thx( I'm thinking of keeping the Beyerdynamic for tracking and the Neumann for mixing and mastering, thas it sound like a good idea ?)
@g.o.9513
@g.o.9513 Жыл бұрын
In the same situation. Did you buy the NDH-30? If so, how do they compare?
@iustingalea1547
@iustingalea1547 Жыл бұрын
@@g.o.9513 I did, never looking back, and I'm planning to buy also the 20 for tracking.
@Aditya_Paliwal_9
@Aditya_Paliwal_9 5 ай бұрын
​@@iustingalea1547Hi! May I know how comfortable ndh 20 and ndh 30 are ?? I recently sold my Audio Technica ATH-M50x just because of the ear fatigue caused due to it after using it for an hour. I am seriously considering 20 and 30 for my Neumann MT48 audio interface.
@SKY11211213
@SKY11211213 2 жыл бұрын
An expensive winner sold only in Japan and exported with some hurdles with a proxy shipping service is the Sony MDR M1ST with Yaxi pads also made by a Japanese company. This headphone can do balanced but the drivers can not reproduce the same frequencies for some reason but staying single ended and burning in the headphone for 30 hours under daily use makes these king of fun and audiophile listening. Wide soundstage, best timbre I have ever heard (1990 returned, HD598, HD25, Beyerd. Custom Studio sold, M50x sold, NDH20, Koss KPH30i and a few more since 2016). The detail is so nice and bass literally can be so neutral in colour so that the M1ST shine when unique songs play. Separation and dynamics are high (volume range in games and music, yet still low enough to do anything with these).
@asafmenjivar7936
@asafmenjivar7936 2 жыл бұрын
cool video Sanjay, love the info- I am just starting my home studio journey - love the product reviews saves me money and headaches! thanks again!!!
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear that, Asaf! Good luck with your journey! Hope to see you here often!
@OneProdPlus
@OneProdPlus 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Still using NDH 20 for now ;)
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
I think you can stick with that and still be happy. Were you waiting for the open backs?
@Shinn-K
@Shinn-K 9 ай бұрын
Is the ndh 30 good with a Presonus studio 24c audio interface?
@SamTRajkumar
@SamTRajkumar 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see another video Sanjay 😊
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sam...thanks for always coming by to say hello. What headphones are you using now?
@SamTRajkumar
@SamTRajkumar 2 жыл бұрын
@@SanjayC I have been using Audio technica M40x and it's a really good pair of headphones.... Goes well with my audient interface
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard lots of good things about the M40x
@SamTRajkumar
@SamTRajkumar 2 жыл бұрын
@@SanjayC oh ya it's bang for the buck... Considering the price and it's even a little bit more balanced sounding than the m50x which comes with a little extra bass 😊
@KangolTilt77
@KangolTilt77 5 ай бұрын
Sanjay.. awesome review. Are you using a headphone amp? Or from your audio interface?
@jurekolenc6157
@jurekolenc6157 7 ай бұрын
Would you say NDH would deliver better mix results than Beyerdynamics on the overall mix? I had DT 1990 and some say they might be too analytical for overall mix. But for spotting things they excell.
@CalebCarterFilm
@CalebCarterFilm 2 жыл бұрын
so cool how far youve come! MENTIONing the 4,500 dollar headphones you reviewed recently
@october65-h6e
@october65-h6e 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE my DT 880 Edition for listening to film music and classical music. They are analytical and have a great imaging, that´s important to me. And their comfort is on point.
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience!
@nodirbeksaidov
@nodirbeksaidov 3 ай бұрын
Hello, Sanjay C I need your advice Did you work on the Dsoniq Realphone program? if your answer yes i have question If I take Neumann NDH 20 in ATX m50x and make a flat frequency response will they both sound the same or will there still be a big difference in sound? because I don’t know which one to buy, I’m thinking of buying 2 headphones at once NDH 30 and ATX m50x or 1 NDH 20 headphone Because I have a program that corrects the frequency response of Dsonic Realphone but I don’t have headphones yet, I’m just going to buy some for me (since ATX m50x is cheaper, I’m wondering if the m50x and NDX 20 will sound the same if I make a flat frequency response through Dsoniq Realphone ) Thanks!
@Gabbanadj
@Gabbanadj 2 жыл бұрын
Im using HD560s for mixing & mastering , i chose this after a long search for flat headphones & they beat headphones 5× higher in price , right now im looking for the perfect closed back headphones, i was really looking into the ndh20's , but their bassy character threw me off , the new open backs are a welcome addition but i think ill keep searching
@juanvillicana856
@juanvillicana856 2 жыл бұрын
You recomend for listen music on cell phone, or the 120 ohms is a problem on cell phone? Or maybe for this, is better option the beyerdynamic dt 770 pro x.. ?
@ST-fl5fy
@ST-fl5fy Жыл бұрын
How do you compare the NDH 30's to the MM 500's using some EQ correction? A a HD600 user using Sound ID would I gain anything?
@GTSongwriter
@GTSongwriter Жыл бұрын
I just need an upgrade from my Sony MDR 7506. I'm thinking the Neumann 20s will probably do?
@ivanj46
@ivanj46 2 жыл бұрын
Clarity and evenness is the most important factor for me in choosing headphones. I have Samson SR850's right now and Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro's are in my wishlist not as an upgrade, but rather a side-grade. DT770's seems like the best of all worlds for me when it comes to headphones.
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Side-grade...that's nice...to have headphones that bring something different!
@Enonymouse_
@Enonymouse_ 2 жыл бұрын
DT990 and Dt770, I think they both share the same emitter components. So technically your getting the same sound for different prices.
@djolexofficial
@djolexofficial 4 ай бұрын
@@Enonymouse_ i wouldn't buy DT 990 even if they are 20$. They are so harsh ,it's unlistenable. Worst headphones in history
@freddianz
@freddianz 2 жыл бұрын
yess thank you. I've been using them and yes for me too, they sound soo good and soo comfortable. well sound is somewhat subjective, but for those who also have Neumann studio monitors, these are prefect pair of headphones to have that consistent sound/tuning. well done review as always!
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I think I watched someone compare these to the Neumann monitors and they said the same. Thanks for sharing!
@J.M.81
@J.M.81 Жыл бұрын
That’s the reason I pulled the trigger on the NDH30‘s yesterday since I use the 310s since 1.5 years now and the first listen today sounds familiar 😄
@EarthDroneMedia
@EarthDroneMedia Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sanjay, for the thorough review. I've been using Sennheiser HD600's which I love, but they seem to lack a little high end, especially when compared to my Yamaha HS8 monitors. I did try the Beyer DT 1990's and was taken aback by the harsh high end. Do the Neumann NDH 30's sound any crisper on the high end to you? I'm looking for something that has a bit more clarity without being too harsh.
@markis2375
@markis2375 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Sanjay C two weeks ago I searched the best headphones for me and I choose the beyerdynamic dt770. In your last video i asked you about what mic should i buy and i thi nk about three of them shure mv7 or rode nt1a or akg p120. Oh, and when you will do a Q&A live? Thanks!
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Mark. If your budget allows, go for the Rode mic. I think you’ll be happy with it in the long run.
@markis2375
@markis2375 2 жыл бұрын
@@SanjayC Thanks, I like your videos very creative and interesting to watch! What for the saturday news!
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@elijahmant2855
@elijahmant2855 3 ай бұрын
Hey Sanjay. Thanks for your video, Man. Very good comparisons. I have the DT 990 Pro 250 holms. I ain't impressed by them. They kinda sound : Muddy and less focussed and not clear enough. So I am considering upgrading to the DT1990 Pro. Or may be the Neumann NDH30. I would be using mostly for mixing, critical listening, checking mixes for mastering.
@danielhipwell3607
@danielhipwell3607 Жыл бұрын
8:32 waiting for a pair of Neumann NDH 20’s to ship to my house. Decided on closed backs because the Neumann’s apparently are transparent for mixing which is unconventional for closed back headphones and with amazing isolation!
@eternal7559
@eternal7559 Жыл бұрын
Should the neumanns be used just for mixing and what not or are they good for just listening to music? Cause i want some haha
@bornaetemadi
@bornaetemadi 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for great review as always. but I have a question can I consider NDH 30 as an upgrade to my Sennheiser HD 560 s for mixing and mastering? does NDH 30 sound more accurate and detailed than HD 560 S ?
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
You may like them more for mixing as they sound more realistic to speakers than other headphones. They also have that premium build...so definitely an upgrade
@RocoV08
@RocoV08 Жыл бұрын
How good/bad is the clamping force on these?
@Packogualandrisofficial
@Packogualandrisofficial 2 жыл бұрын
I use mostly the DT-990 Pro for mixing/listening and the DT-770 Pro for recording :-) Nice video as always, thanks for that 🙂
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🏼 thank you. Nice to have both closed and open Beyerdynamic, right?
@Packogualandrisofficial
@Packogualandrisofficial 2 жыл бұрын
@@SanjayC Yeah absolutely 🙂 Wish you a great day, see you at the next video ❤️🎵
@iamthe1234567890
@iamthe1234567890 2 жыл бұрын
Some users have commented there is a valley in the 700-3000hz midrange but others say it is very depending on headphone position, if it slips or you move it on your head, the sound changes drastically. Have you found that? Thanks
@TheMixClub
@TheMixClub 2 жыл бұрын
I had the Neumann NDH 20. I sold them for Sennheiser HD 650's. I like working on the Sennheiser's better over all I guess i like open backs more than i thought i did. I loved the Neumann NDH 20's. The build quality is the best. The Build quality of the Sennheiser HD 650 is a joke but i still love the sound. I would love to Pick up the NDH 30 I bet they are what i was missing with the HD 20s. I just felt that the mids tired me out. I was like man if they only had a open back version this would be the best head phone ever. I can only bet the NDH 30 are what i was missing and more.
@madalinabarligea8923
@madalinabarligea8923 Жыл бұрын
Hi, did you try the ndh30 ?
@TheMixClub
@TheMixClub Жыл бұрын
No not yet about 700 bucks holding me back they are on the list. after i pay off my Mackie DLZ creator I might pick them up. @@madalinabarligea8923
@waiisoserious
@waiisoserious Жыл бұрын
I have an Audio Technica M40X looking forward to buying DT 1990 soon.. and my first pair of actual monitors! Finally!!
@anemoia980
@anemoia980 2 жыл бұрын
I waited for this sooo much!
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Marco! What do you think of them?
@rivenlikemakar
@rivenlikemakar 9 ай бұрын
Been mixing and engineering my vocals on 770s for awhile now. I have a low register voice and im finding it really hard to mix my vocals properly with the 770s because the lack of bass plus the really harsh higher frequencies. Does anyone know if the NDH 30s would be a huge difference versus the 770s for my situation? I feel like my first mistake was not realizing that its better to MIX with open back, up until now ive been recording and mixing on the 770s, but if I get the NDH 30s it'd be mixing on those and only recording on the 770s. Thoughts? Thanks in advance!
@Andy-Kach
@Andy-Kach 2 жыл бұрын
*Updated after long use. Regardless of the first impression about the DT 1990 sound and build quality (because it is written that it is made in Germany), these are BAD headphones. After spending more time with them, you realize that they are not so reliable, and you have to repair them after 2 years. The plastic clip on the headband bracket (where the model name is written) has just broken, and the other one started to break. Yes, they have bass, but all the details in the sound turned out to be just a big, unnatural peak in high frequencies.
@djolexofficial
@djolexofficial 4 ай бұрын
you probably have tinnitus and that is alright. for us who don't have ,we appreciate much more audiophile and pleasant sound. I wouldn't use DT 1990 Pro even if you give me for free
@Andy-Kach
@Andy-Kach 4 ай бұрын
@@djolexofficial Strangely enough, I agree with you. Sold my DT 1990 a long time ago. They really have nasty peaks in the upper frequencies and the build quality is not as great as they say on KZbin. I replaced them with much better headphones a long time ago.
@temperamento7716
@temperamento7716 2 жыл бұрын
Hey brother , so I’m a well known artist and I have my Spotify and Apple Music account through distrokid but noticed someone else made a separate account a while back of me and some of the music I’m featured on is going to that page instead of mine. How can I fix this? I didn’t give anyone permission to make another account of me.
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
The only way I found to fix this is contacting support through the DistroKid "fix" an issue page.
@starkid9736
@starkid9736 2 жыл бұрын
got my ndh 20s and boy sound they good. i trust them like my geithains, its so easy to make decissions everything sounds so balanced and "unbiased" its now a canvas u can paint on like on good monitors (but the room arrrr) distance is easy to measure due to the natural and precise highs most headphones are to present and blure the distance perception but this helps not at bad timing the ndh sound very precise and show u whats up like looking at ur painting canvas man i can c clearly now like mr Cliff
@sagarkochar
@sagarkochar Жыл бұрын
What audio interface do you use them with?
@Daniel4Style
@Daniel4Style 2 жыл бұрын
What about guitar and bass?
@LBJedi
@LBJedi 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying to decide between these and the DT1990s for quite a while ( in the process of saving up👍). I can’t treat my current room, so I figure a really great pair of open back headphones would be a more useful investment than monitors right now. Did you happen to try the Neumann with something like Sonarworks? I’d be interested to hear how the NDH30s and DT1990s compare when their respective frequencies are flattened. Thanks for all the fantastic videos!
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
I felt that Sonarworks flattens the Beyers but that gets rid of their competitive edge. I like the super clarity in high frequencies when I’m picking out problems. I prefer to use and learn headphones the way they were intended to sound. But that’s just me. Have you had a good experience with Sonarworks for other headphones?
@LBJedi
@LBJedi 2 жыл бұрын
@@SanjayC I definitely have, but I think it’s because headphones are my only option right now. I found when I used Sonarworks with my DT770 Pros, my mixes were far more balanced. Without it, they were coming out much too dark. However, I frequently turn off Sonarworks throughout my process to check various things.
@hitmarkler
@hitmarkler Жыл бұрын
@@SanjayC Maybe better wording would be "how the manufacturer managed to make them sound" 🤔 Ideal frequency balance is basicly impossible to achieve mechanically. I prefer great dynamics, accurate imaging and "realistic" soundstage over frequency balance out of the box. Corrective equalization can be done so easily and for free if you use AutoEQ precalculated results for example 😊
@kyveriver4316
@kyveriver4316 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any frequency response measurement on the Neumann NDH 30?
@irishkappa5382
@irishkappa5382 2 жыл бұрын
To me the flat frequency response and clarity is very inportant,I mainly use headphones for producing music since in my rooom there's no space for big speakers. I use Audio Technica ATH-R70X & Audio Technica ATH-M50X,R70X for producing and mixing,M50X for recording and detail checking(especially sub bass checking) I'm considering getting a Bayerdynamic headphone,what's the defference between DT 900 X and DT 1990 Pro?
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
The 1990s are a hyper version of the 900s. They are just better all around - especially in build quality. They are also a little nicer for casual listening.
@madalinabarligea8923
@madalinabarligea8923 Жыл бұрын
​@@SanjayC 1990 are not bright ????
@veritas7010
@veritas7010 11 ай бұрын
Bass or soundstage? How about flatness
@Reigng
@Reigng 2 жыл бұрын
Ive been using Beats Mixrs for years definitely need these! Can you do a MacBook review for producers PLEASE!
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Go with a MacBook M1 - no regrets!
@lisan_al-ghaib
@lisan_al-ghaib 2 жыл бұрын
IDK Sanjay, those DT1990s have a +10db peak at 9KHz. That's no joke. No one would want to lose high end details as they age. I'd say protect your hearing especially if music is your passion.
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
If you use them sparingly...like I do...I think you'll be fine....but thanks for looking out for our community!
@lisan_al-ghaib
@lisan_al-ghaib 2 жыл бұрын
@@SanjayC you can eq that if you use windows there'd this program called equalizer APO. runs in the background as is system-wide. idk the counterpart for macs though. also, great video! Folia Soundstudio also made a showdown video featuring these. A good watch too.
@ainnelrosirrosias3338
@ainnelrosirrosias3338 2 жыл бұрын
Which has the tighter easier to mix bass? This or the 1990? For edm stuff ( like guetta shot le down type of kicks) thanks sanjay
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Tighter bass on the Neumanns in my opinion (with my ears)
@ronaldguerra82
@ronaldguerra82 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that review, I just ordered it. Where can I find that headphone stand? Thank you.
@g.o.9513
@g.o.9513 Жыл бұрын
Hey, just curious about the NDH-30. What are your thoughts?
@ronaldguerra82
@ronaldguerra82 Жыл бұрын
At first I didn't like the lack of high that I'm used to, but it definitely improved my mixes 👍🏻
@massivebeatzz
@massivebeatzz 2 жыл бұрын
Hey good to see you! Been using the NDH20's as a daily driver for a year... Really good (plus dSoniq Realphones), as well as the HD600. Really want to test the 30s, but not sure about test access... Doing the Audeze MM500 first though, - you will be in my video, inevitably - since you and Manny were hugging it out in every shot :)
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Yo!!!! MassiveBeatzz!! What's up! LOL @ Manny and Sanjay C love! i can't wait to see that vid
@agondistortion
@agondistortion 2 жыл бұрын
The real question is what about the depth , cause that is the most important thing when it comes to tracking and mixing if they give you depth than you know exactly where to place sound in a 3d space
@guitar8617
@guitar8617 2 жыл бұрын
Use Ultimate Ears Reference Remastered custom IEM's since I mix a lot of live broadcast in the same room as well so I need the isolation. Love them and haven't turned back when it comes to headphones. In the studio, do all the heavy eq and critical mixing work on my IEM's and use my studio monitors to do final check of the stereo field. Owned the NDH 20's for a while before I got those and I really enjoyed my experience with those too.
@g.o.9513
@g.o.9513 Жыл бұрын
Are the IEMs better than the NDH20s?
@guitar8617
@guitar8617 Жыл бұрын
@@g.o.9513 For most things, yes. Especially in situations where I need isolation from my environment, go for the IEM's. Use the NDH20'S mainly for tracking with other people now.
@kadiummusic
@kadiummusic 2 жыл бұрын
I use the DT 1990's with Realphones on the the optimisation setting which sweetens them out a touch and they sound great. Along with my Kali In-5's I feel I have all bases covered when it comes to mixing. 😎
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! You found a good pair of monitoring devices! Do you really like your Kali's?
@Fredrickdubalu
@Fredrickdubalu 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Sanjay, here is a completely unrelated question that i am hoping you could share an opinion on, what do you think about the use of Acoustic foams in studios, useful or nah?
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Good question. I think acoustic foam helps....but its hard to get it perfect unless you cover every wall with high quality thick foam. But placed right...it does make a difference. I'll cover this in a future video
@martinlarrivee5081
@martinlarrivee5081 2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually interested in knowing, if you have a bit more budget, if it's worth stepping up in price from the Neumann NDH 30 for mixing and mastering? Are they good enough? Or do you get do you get a noticeable difference going up to let's say, Audeez LCD?
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
I will share my thoughts on the LCD's later this month...look out for that video
@DarkPa1adin
@DarkPa1adin 2 жыл бұрын
@@SanjayC MM 500 too please
@kyveriver4316
@kyveriver4316 2 жыл бұрын
Are the Neumann ndh 20 that flat? Seems like there are a few dips and boosts. A dip in the upper mids/lower highs and a boost in the mid bass/low mids. They looked amazing but I am not sure of the ndh 20 when I watch videos saying they’re not that perfect for mixing and at the some time a lot of videos say they’re awesome. Do you know why that is? I find the hd 650 to sound amazing but with lacking low end. Any recommendation? Preferably closed back but open could be good too.
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
They are not completely flat, but flat enough to "learn" how to mix right with them. I think they are also pleasant to listen to for long sessions, which sometimes isn't the case with flatter headphones.
@kyveriver4316
@kyveriver4316 2 жыл бұрын
@@SanjayC what do you think of focal elegia? I have a pair but I’m not sure of them. Thinking of the ndh 20 or hd 650. I rly like Yamaha hs8 sound signature. I had the 650 and I loved them except no bass. But when I tested them in a store on a proper power source they sounded better, more punch. Do you feel this too? So now I’m thinking. Focal elegia for 550$, Neumann ndh 20 for 450$ or hd 650 + like an Apollo volt for around 450$. I primarily make trap/hip hop and edm.
@IsHekiel
@IsHekiel 2 жыл бұрын
here we go again ma boy Sanjay clean wit
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
haha! Hope you enjoyed the vid
@IsHekiel
@IsHekiel 2 жыл бұрын
@@SanjayC was interesting to watch
@nickclube295
@nickclube295 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a really helpful, balanced review. I love Neumann mics but am a solid Beyerdynamic headphone user in the studio, and I have been struggling to know whether to upgrade from Beyer's DT880s to their DT1990 pro or the Neuman NDH30, the latter being significantly more expensive. Your section on why a viewer uses headphones in a studio is very useful indeed. It sounds to me from what you say that the Beyers are more analytical for mixing and that sounds like me. I also worry about the Sennheiser link to Neumann, irrespective of how well built people say the NDH 30s are. Sennheiser in my experience just are not built to take the rigours of a studio as are teh Beyers (again in my own personal experience) and require spares sooner rather than later. If only there were places one could audition headphones these days before buying!
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
The Neumann's will give you that build quality that will stand the test of "studio" time! But sound wise...the Sennheisers are excellent - on par.
@carterpochynok4874
@carterpochynok4874 Жыл бұрын
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@djfenixforever
@djfenixforever Жыл бұрын
Got My answer at 5:27 Thanks Sanjay !🙂
@KristianHilf
@KristianHilf Жыл бұрын
Guys , can I plug in these headphones to my iphone for example and listen to Spotify ?
@mostakimkhanmafi
@mostakimkhanmafi 2 жыл бұрын
Can you review Yamaha MT7 headphones. People are saying it's the ns10's of headphones.
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Woah that's a big claim. I have to try them. What's your budget?
@mostakimkhanmafi
@mostakimkhanmafi 2 жыл бұрын
@@SanjayC My budget is around 200-250.
@Andy-G
@Andy-G 2 жыл бұрын
I use DT 1990 for mixing and I love them. Best headphones I ever had. I use the DT 770 for Recording. For me this is the best combination.
@nickclube295
@nickclube295 2 жыл бұрын
I am currently using the DT880s for mixing but going to upgrade to DT1990s. Also use the DT770's for tracking - I'm a big fan of Beyers in the studio. sounds like you are too.
@studio_person
@studio_person 2 жыл бұрын
*Man check Beyerdynamic DT250 someday. Very underrated but my favourite by far for years*
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
I need to try those!
@jyotichristo7720
@jyotichristo7720 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video on the perks of high end headphones!
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@PurpleMusicProductions
@PurpleMusicProductions 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Sennheiser HD600 and thought about these, but it does not seem like a big upgrade or at least necessary. The price tag sort of moves me away from it, especially for a tool that only accounts for up to 20 of my workflow.
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
You'll probably be happy with the 600s for a long time. Great headphones
@DICARLOPRODUCTIONS
@DICARLOPRODUCTIONS 11 ай бұрын
I´m lucky to have a pair of Sennheiser HD-580´s, which have won major awards, which they don´t make anymore. They were the predecessor to the HD-600´s, and pretty much sound the same. They are probably the most linear headphones on the market. Great for mixing, and mastering, which I do for a living. My other headphones are my Beyerdynamic DT-880 Pro´s, which are also good, but have a bit more highs, which I noticed immediately. Since I got Sonorworks, I use them more often, but still use the HD-580´s for final checks. Of course you always have to use your monitors to check the bass, and how the mixes translate. I´m using Focal Shape Twins, Genelec 1029A´s, and Presonus Eris 8 (for more of a consumer sound). Keep your HD-600´s, after 20 plus years they are still up there with the best. I´m thinking of buying a pair to give my HD-580´s a rest. :) By the way, Sennheiser owns Neumann, so I´m sure the Neumann´s are also good. But, as far as I can tell, the Sennheiser HD-800´s are supposed to be the best. But, they´re in a whole different price range.
@jameswallace5967
@jameswallace5967 Жыл бұрын
My Neumann NDH 30 arrive this week!
@gerraldsamraj
@gerraldsamraj Жыл бұрын
The DT1990 high frequency response spike made it fatiguing for long listening sessions. Especially mixing for binaural audio
@pranjalshekhar7832
@pranjalshekhar7832 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using beyerdynamics DT 990 pro for a year now and I totally love them .
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Great headphones for sure
@AdrianRC991
@AdrianRC991 2 жыл бұрын
hey Sanjay¡ I've used my sennheiser hd650 for about 4 years and now thinking about switching. I've found hard to mix with them (I normally just use my monitors anyways). I found very hard to tell if im exeding in some frequency content as they sound very open and can allow mid or high content without being harsh... I come from using Shure 440 in the past and somehow mixing in them made more sense to me. I dont know if this makes any sense to you but would love to know your thoughts. (im thinking in switching to beyer990 do you think is a good idea? mostly mixing rock music)
@LaidbackSounds
@LaidbackSounds 2 жыл бұрын
that's why I sold my hd650 too, I find them very overrated for mixing purposes. They make every thing sounds good even unfinished track. Gonna cope the ndh30 this month it will go perfectly with my kh120 Neumann speakers
@AdrianRC991
@AdrianRC991 2 жыл бұрын
@@LaidbackSounds good to know its not just me, i've always had that feeling with the 650's... they're very nice to just listen music on spotify anyway. let me know what you think of the ndh30's, cheers¡
@LaidbackSounds
@LaidbackSounds 2 жыл бұрын
@@AdrianRC991 you are not alone at all many ppl reporting this for many many years. I even prefer the jubilee 58x which is more accurate to mix with. The hd650 are superb to listen to music you are right but thats it i ll let ya know end of the month when the ndh30 is back in stock for sure. At one stage i wanted to try the slate vsx too im just affraid they might be a gimmick and i trust more neumann but who knows ?
@AdrianRC991
@AdrianRC991 2 жыл бұрын
@@LaidbackSounds mmyeahh i also dont want to go the slate way, i dont like the build quality, i want to try the beyer i think they're more similar as the shr440 i used to mix on and i dont know man i really liked em back then (when it comes to the aproach of mixing)...
@LaidbackSounds
@LaidbackSounds 2 жыл бұрын
@@AdrianRC991 Ndh30 back in stock here in europe just ordered it, will let you know, as much i as i love shure mics i never really liked shure headphones. I used to have beyer dt880 and dt770 but i always found beyer sound signature too bright for me in the top end. I agree with you with the slate one, if it would have cost maybe 290 euros i would have give it a try but too expensive for that cheap build quality.
@ДжонСнежный
@ДжонСнежный Жыл бұрын
Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro all the way
@static-san
@static-san 2 жыл бұрын
I'm like you - I usually use my studio monitors rather than headphones. But I do don them for checking the mastering. My headphones of choice are Sony MDR-1AM2 headphones, which I usually use to just listen to music. Which actually makes them useful for mastering because it represents my own normal listening environment. But now I'm considering if I should have some studio headphones, too...
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
you can't replace the experience you have from using the same headphones for a while
@EyemSoreel
@EyemSoreel 6 ай бұрын
bass is slightly more important to me but soundstage is still closely important to me, but I like to hear and feel the bass without things getting muddy like some consumer listening devices
@JaeBTundra1
@JaeBTundra1 2 жыл бұрын
I'm happy with my Neumann 20s lol. I know the 30s got to be good.
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, no complaints from me either.
@DarkPa1adin
@DarkPa1adin 2 жыл бұрын
Focal Clear is still my endgame
@michelezanolla7154
@michelezanolla7154 Жыл бұрын
Hi everyone! Do you honestly think there are too much for simple listening your favourite music at home, not in a professional way? They are so expensive, but I am looking for a great sound headphones. Thank youu!
@jasoncatanzarite6049
@jasoncatanzarite6049 2 жыл бұрын
Daily use headphones are Shure SRH-1840 open back’s. Before sending anything out of my studio I check them on my Sennheiser HD650’s as those are my “critical listening” headphones.
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Shure 1840! Excellent sound!
@Akarsh116
@Akarsh116 Жыл бұрын
Yes the Beyerdynamic open back range sound excellent the only issue i found in using them is the reliability. The closed back 770 is still good. However the 990s and the 1990s tend to have blown drivers within 5-6 months of use. The frequent trips to a service centre is tedious,expensive and problematic especially when they are your primary headphones. The Neumans maybe a little bit lacking but as you said the build quality is immaculate so the little lack can be compensated by getting used to the headphones itself.
@ДжонСнежный
@ДжонСнежный Жыл бұрын
I hear about blown drivers first time. Where you read this? 😂
@Silverfox.J
@Silverfox.J 2 жыл бұрын
Wait... Have you got an Avalon sitting on the ground?
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Yes...but only temporarily...I have to move it to a rack...coming soon...shhh
@frequency_sequencer
@frequency_sequencer 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the Audeze LCDX were nice but the sound was too laid-back
@vewilli
@vewilli 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, see and hear you on Saturday. 👍🏻 Right now I use the Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro (250 Ohms) for vocal recording and the DT 880 Pro (250 Ohms) for Mixing (I also use the DT 990 Pro, 250 Ohms, the „Mackie Big Knob+“ is really good for the 250 Ohm models, loud enough with volume up a quarter, much too loud already at half open volume knob). I‘m not going to buy headphones in the near future.
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Wow...nice headphones you got there! Thanks for sharing, GAD!
@photosinferno6870
@photosinferno6870 2 жыл бұрын
Ndh20’s - love them , do all my mixing via them and find they a very representative of a finished real world mix.
@sagarkochar
@sagarkochar Жыл бұрын
What audio interface do you use them with?
@photosinferno6870
@photosinferno6870 Жыл бұрын
@@sagarkochar I have an SSL Big Six desk - it has a built in audio interface.
@sagarkochar
@sagarkochar Жыл бұрын
@@photosinferno6870 ahh ok that's kool, I'm just look for a portable interface for myself, I guess audient ID24 should be good, I checked it seems very good for headset above 80 omh impedance
@cameronpritchard626
@cameronpritchard626 2 жыл бұрын
For me. Bass is more important with headphones. As “wide” as they can be they wont rival monitors. HOWEVER. In an untreated room, such as my own, it’s crucial to have good reference headphones and having a good bass is more important as “width” is kinda hard to loose with monitors, its really reliant on your placements etc. I mainly use my headphones for referencing and or producing at late/early hours. Or if I’m enjoying some synthesisers outside the studio!!
@rainbowkittycat627
@rainbowkittycat627 2 жыл бұрын
I see what you mean, and I think good bass is important, but I think we have to define what we mean by good bass. For me, good bass is having a low subass, and having a clean tight bass response. For example, my grado sr80es are don’t have a lot of bass, but they have very crisp bass. Compared to something like the raycons, which have sooo much bass it’s overpowering, but none of it is good. And for me, having a good soundstage and detailing for headphones is as important if not more important than base, because headphones will generally always be more detailed then studio monitors. Studio monitors will always have less color in a sound treated room, which is why they are recommended in a studio environment, but they generally have less detail than a similar class of headphones. (Not to mention, headphones are just cheaper than speakers in general)
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience, Cameron!
@_mickmccarthy
@_mickmccarthy 2 жыл бұрын
DT770 Pros here, may eventually pair them with some DT990 Pros but in no rush to add to my headphone collection at the moment!
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@rainbowkittycat627
@rainbowkittycat627 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a budget-conscious queen, so I use the Sennheiser hd 560s (150-200$) for mixing and mastering and the sennheiser Hd 569 (100$) for recording, or the iems, my etymotic er2se (100$). I highly recommend hd 560s for those on a budget, and the er2se are some of the best iems period, and they both have really good frequency response graphs for music production. I was so in love with my hd 560s that I got the hd 569s, and they are good, but there might be better options in that price bracket, although I really love them.
@meldmagic
@meldmagic 2 жыл бұрын
🤠 560s are so good that Senn based their HD400 Pro on them. I've avoided the 600 & 650 as they use those two-pronged forks which have been problematic in my experience (intermittent connection).
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Rainbox KittyCat! Thanks for sharing your experience. I gotta try the 569s!
@rainbowkittycat627
@rainbowkittycat627 2 жыл бұрын
@@meldmagic makes sense. The 560s use the standard 2.5 mm plug, which is nice because it is very universal.
@vicsardou9654
@vicsardou9654 2 жыл бұрын
I use Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pros and they are great.
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Used those for years and still love them
@positivereacts8571
@positivereacts8571 2 жыл бұрын
I love Sanjays video I wait for them just to get a freebie
@SanjayC
@SanjayC 2 жыл бұрын
Is it freebie time already? Haha! :-D
@proFscarfmaNhaT
@proFscarfmaNhaT Жыл бұрын
I’ve been a very long time user of M50’s by Audio Technica. They’re ok for recording, but for mixing they’re unpleasant. I have Neumann KH120 monitors. These are excellent. Tempted by the NDH30’s to compliment them BUT, if the shape isn’t as comfortable as the HD 600’s then perhaps not a good choice? 1990’s was my original plan, but when super high end headphones are out there costing over £1000, it’s now become a nightmare to know which ones to consider… Haven’t physically tested any of the open backed H-phones in this video or elsewhere so have no actual idea what will work for me.
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