I am based in good Old Europe and am never going to have the chance to waltz into your shop and carry out a fab drum kit ... but I so enjoy your videos. Informative, full of passion, good sprinkling of light humour... Just sourced myself some Meinl Pure alloy cymbals based on your extensive cymbal set reviews. Not disappointed, I am glad I spent all those hours going through your various shootout videos!
@wyrlismike3 ай бұрын
You can buy from them online you know
@mattbennett9467Ай бұрын
@@wyrlismike Yes you can, but we're all terrified of sales tax and import tax, as we have no idea how much that will be. In the UK all prices are inclusive of VAT (you call it sales tax) and the distributer has already sorted any import duties etc. So, the price advertised is what we actually pay. There are too many stories out there of people buying something from one of your excellent retailers (if I lived in New England, DCP would probably have taken out a restraining order against me by now!!) at what appeared to be an excellent price, only to end up paying hundreds more in hidden costs. As a result, we stick to our own. I will be visiting the East coast a few times in the coming years as my son is moving to NY for work, so I WILL be visiting DCP, even if I only end up buying a pair of sticks and a T-shirt!
@thelowertownsound3 ай бұрын
"Down in my plumbs" will live on forever as the only way to judge a bass drum. I love the inserts you guys put together. Great sense of humour!!
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Maybe a limited run of shirts is in order...
@thelowertownsound3 ай бұрын
@@drumcenternh At least. I was thinking a special run wrap. "Down in my plumbs" burgandy sparkle...only available with a 26" kick
@goldenageofdinosaurs71923 ай бұрын
I know setting up & breaking down kits all day can’t be a lot of fun, so I just wanted to leave a comment of appreciation to everyone at the Drum Store of Portsmouth who’s involved in making these great videos for us🫡
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
It's a labor of love, thanks for noticing!
@DrummerGrrrl3 ай бұрын
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 Especially upstairs...I bet it gets hot as a smelting furnace up there, in the summertime. True fact: You'll never see an overweight person working in a steel mill. The heat in those places just melts any extra flab right off...well, you'll sweat so much that it's basically the same thing. As part of my training in Mechanical Drafting, my trade school class visited a steel mill in Seattle and it was an eye opener. And a lung burner. And a nasal passage burner. And an eye burner. 😅.
@TempoDrift14802 ай бұрын
Don't suppose you'd rather set up drum kits in a heated/cooled facility than climb the telephone poles and work 14'000 volt lines that feed it huh?
@thomasredden42632 ай бұрын
@@TempoDrift1480lol the ridiculousness in going, “but my job is harder.” Is a fuckin joke. Grow up. No one makes you do that gig.
@itsjim28752 ай бұрын
@@drumcenternh Yeah - you guys do good stuff!
@SuperXpress23 ай бұрын
Broadkasters are an absolute joy to listen to!!
@DG-sf9ei3 ай бұрын
It's all in the heavy die cast hoops Gretsch uses. You can buy generic die cast hoops of same weight and quality for a fraction of Gretsch price, install them on any drum kit and it'll sound just as good or even better than an inflated Gretsch. I'm a drum builder and restorer with connections to other drum builders and vintage cats, and the consensus across the board about Gretsch isn't rocket science to those who research beyond trying to be a stick chopper and brand tag fan.
@artcorvolet3 ай бұрын
@@DG-sf9eium, those 302 hoops, not die cast🤦♂️🙄
@SuperXpress23 ай бұрын
@@DG-sf9ei Interesting, I have a set of gretsch marquees that have 2.3mm triple flanged hoops. They have a nice bright bite to them with clear 1 ply heads or a really warm punch sound with 2 ply heads. What sort of effect would die cast hoops have on them?
@gratao252 ай бұрын
@@DG-sf9ei do you feel like the 30 degrees bearing edge would also contribute to recreating the gretsch sound?
@AdamStachelek3 ай бұрын
Glad you're showcasing George Ways here. I have a George Way kit and a few snares. The kit is the Tuxedo Acacia so different wood for the plies but the hardware is the same. I've never had any issues with tuning stability on the long tension rods. Ever. They are so very fun to play and the tuning range, even on the Tuxedo lugs, is outstanding. The bearing edges are top notch and you can go as low as you want to for head tension and still get good tones. Highly recommend these very high quality and affordable drums. They record like a dream like Tony said!
@charliecontrino16263 ай бұрын
WOW! They all sound great but I love the way the broadcaster kit sounds overall especially the snare!
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Yeah, they are great for sure!
@tobiaswinter13583 ай бұрын
Finally, a classic DCP video in my timeline again! Can't wait to visit your store in October!
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Good to be back and glad you liked! See you then!
@manowire21123 ай бұрын
Listening on the studio speakers.... very subtle differences. George Way > Ludwig/Rogers (tie) > Gretsch. Makes me interested to learn more about George Way Aristocrat. Great video & thanks!
@mattdamico15263 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation guys, as always. It’s interesting to see how the trends come full circle. I still own my Slingerland kit I ordered in ‘73. 3ply (Maple, Poplar, mahogany) with maple re-rings. 13, 16, 24. I ordered them 13, 14, 16, 18, 24 with a 5x14 Krupa COB and now they’re back in vogue. Lol
@CactusJack-j1k3 ай бұрын
Interesting that you have a 24" kick drum as Slingerland generally featured 20" kits in their catalogues (my first kit was a 1968 Slinger/Leedy 20, 12, 14 with a COB Shelly Manne snare (same shell as the Krupa "Sound King"). I also assume that your shell lay-up is from interior to exterior plies as my Slinger/Leedys were mahogany (outer), poplar (middle) and maple (inner), which Slingerland adopted in the early-mid 1960s (according to Vintage Drum Guide). The same source indicates that Slingerland continued to use mahogany in their outer ply for wrapped kits as the glue bonded better to the more porous mahogany. I might note that I'm currently using a modern/vintage Ludwig kit and have returned to a 20" Ludwig Legacy Mahogany kick drum teamed with 12' and 16" Classic Maple toms and on many occasions a 5.5 x 14 Krupa Sound King. I love my Ludwig snares, but I just can't get away from the sound of those old Shelly Manne and Sound King snares!
@mattdamico15263 ай бұрын
@@CactusJack-j1k very cool. For me, the catalog original config offering was 12, 13, 16, 22 & 5x14. My order went larger. Truthfully, I should’ve stayed with a 22. I’m 5’8” and with the 9x13 & 10x14 sitting on top of the 24” kick it was a bit of a stretch to get up to them. I’ve compensated by only using the 13 or the 14 on a single mount instead of the double mount. The single mount allows the tom to hang lower. So, in the end it worked out for me. Btw, my ‘73s are wrapped in their copper finish and they still look great after 35+ years of gigging. They are now relegated to the studio and only come out for special occasions.
@C0zyDunt3 ай бұрын
Rogers sounded great.
@ivanbajovic34763 ай бұрын
Great job guys. Two things we can't hear/feel via video are the volume of each kit and feel under the hands and foot. So the best decision can be made when the drum is played and heard live.
@tinterlande3 ай бұрын
Thanks! I did my best to describe how they felt while playing, but that is hard to explain just using words.
@adee25693 ай бұрын
All sounded great. My choices would be Ludwig/GWAY/Rogers/Gretsch.
@johnhora83713 ай бұрын
Thanks guys for really playing the drums and not just some continuous standard groove...you played each drum so we could really compare them. Nice sounds from each set....loved the big sound from the Ludwig and Rogers....was really amazed with the George Way set....very nice for the price....please let us know what Paiste cymbals you were playing...nice sound....Thanks for a great comparison video!
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Thanks for all the kind words! At the very end of the video we tell you what all the cymbals are.
@johnhora83713 ай бұрын
@@drumcenternh well darn I just checked it again and yep you came back to tell us about the cymbals....I signed off too quick... went back to the beginning to listen again.... Classic lol... thanks for letting me know....
@goodtimejohnny89722 ай бұрын
Good to see the tune bot settings again. I miss the days when they were posted on every review. Love this channel!
@ricoandkona7943 ай бұрын
Brother Tony did the triple double take on himself when he clicked his sticks on the floor tom at 10:53 - You were like "what the" - Love you guys!!
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Sure did... doing it live!
@elvin383 ай бұрын
I’m a Gretschman, but I have to admit that the George Way is maybe the best sounding with the all the mics on and without any other instrument. The attack and « whack » of Gretsch shells often make the difference when the entire band is playing. A giant thank you to the DCP team for your videos, the very best. Advice, humor, filming, producing, and the sound of course… everything is on the top level!!!
@gretchman3 ай бұрын
I'm a Gretchman! Wait...
@harwoodcarnal85233 ай бұрын
DCP product comparison videos are absolutely best-in-class. Well done, gentlemen. Very closely-matched comparison. Completely agree with the takeaway about George Way/Ludwig. If the Way had different lugs, it would be my favorite bar none.
@tinterlande3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
🤘❤️🤘
@bellbrass3 ай бұрын
You guys did an excellent job, once again. My take: Gretsch Broadcaster sounds the most unique; the other drums are maple/poplar, and your crew did such a good job tuning the drums to the same note that what we are basically hearing is the differences in bearing edges on those drums. I've owned Ludwig Legacy Classics, and I've also owned Gretsch USA Custom. The Ludwig comes closest to a vintage sound of all the kits because of the undersized shells. The Rogers sound surprisingly good. George Way, though, is the way to go (pun intended) if you don't have Ludwig or Gretsch kind of money. The Mod Orange is gorgeous, but Gretsch USA Custom Nitrocellulose lacquer finishes are in a world of their own.
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@brentmcneff41703 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing tune bot settings!
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
You got it, Brent!
@timbofromkeno3 ай бұрын
I am a Ludwig lover. I'm totally with Tony in the end. I think there's something about split lug designs that allows for easier tuning. But man, that Rogers kit was surprising. I didn't realize they sounded that good!
@tinterlande3 ай бұрын
🤘🤘
@DG-sf9ei3 ай бұрын
That's because Roger's disappeared a long time ago and you may have never heard one back in their heyday. It's great to see them come back. And I'll tell you from experience of buying, selling, rebuilding, and performing live on drum kits for decades..... ROGER'S DOESN'T TAKE A BACKSEAT FROM ANY DRUM COMPANY. They were never over gloryfied with famous drummers in rock promoting their brand, tho Roger's proof was in the quality and sound.
@timbofromkeno3 ай бұрын
@@DG-sf9ei It's interesting. Fortunately, I've owned a lot of Rogers. I've had prototype kits from the Cleveland era (one of 11 for dealers to showcase the "new" beavertail lugs) and "newer" Fullerton-era kits too. My favorite design is definitely the Cleveland era three-ply shell. It was so far ahead of its time. Later, I know Keller supplied most of those five-ply shells. The rumor is that they cost Rogers as little as 10 dollars a piece in the 60s, if you can believe that. Great shells, and I can definitely hear a similar character in the import drums they're making now. But that's where my hesitation lies - the import element. I know this drives the price down significantly, but because this is coming out of one of the two big hardware factories in the world, they're still slapping what are essentially generic hardware on these drums. Specifically, I'm disappointed in the bass drum spur design. If they were going to try and bring back the brand, then wouldn't they want to go the extra mile and try and improve and recreate some of those iconic Swivo mounts, spurs, and other parts? For me, so much of this comes back to the fine details. Rogers got the shells down. You can hear it. But I really wish they would've gotten the hardware down too so that we could see it and feel it and have that same functionality that drummers loved 60 years ago.
@DG-sf9ei3 ай бұрын
@@timbofromkenoThanks for all the info. Yeah I agree with the hardware needing updates since then. The 1970s Roger's kits were beasts as far as hardware mounts, alot of extra metal & weight, no doubt it was sturdy, tho almost overkill in weight when transporting. However to be fair about vintage drum kits up until around late 70s....none of the other major drum companies from back then had user friendly drum hardware mounting systems either, that all started to improve when the Japs Tama and Yamaha got into the market more with Omni ball system, Slingerland had something similar too ahead of the rest. My 1st real kit from the 1970s had that Slingerland ball mount that equally tilted both Tom's. Now I only use 1 rack tom, guess it's all preference including sound.
@jamesyistheman2 ай бұрын
@@timbofromkeno I feel the same way. This is the exact reason for my hesitancy in buying any new Rogers kits.
@tonylee16113 ай бұрын
Watching the Mod Orange Ludwig section, I would dearly love to see Tony dressed up as a young Bun E. Carlos.
@camerondean68043 ай бұрын
I second that comment.
@tinterlande3 ай бұрын
A missed opportunity on my part. Accept my apologies!
@camerondean68043 ай бұрын
It's OK. We just wanted you to get hundreds of teenage Japanese girls screaming, "Tony!! Tony!!!" 🙃
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
All the motivation I need for the future!
@tm4333Ай бұрын
@drumcenternh I love your humor!😂 and everything you post is appreciated. Top notch tuning, mixing, demonstrating etc. Buuut… just one thing.. When doing the head to head please- DON’T FORGET TO TURN THE SNARE WIRES OFF! When demoing the tom’s. Thanks
@vincenzoa29293 ай бұрын
DCP videos are top notch, so informative and yet always fun to watch with the humor. Thanks guys and keep up the great work! They all sounded great but I’m a Ludwig guy so I’d have to go with Ludwig but like I said, they all sounded great!
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!!
@wflkurt3 ай бұрын
You really can't beat the sound of those Ludwig drums. They really do make a great drum. That being said, I honestly thought all of the sets here sounded great. Nice job on the video.
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more, thank you!
@FAKusch3 ай бұрын
My C&C kit has the same lug and rod design as the G. Way and they are rugged enough for any application and the tuning is perfect. In fact, it's easier to set up and do finger-tight tunings on the floor toms and the bass with longer lugs than it is with shorter ones. All these kits sounded great, with the Ludwig COB snare taking it.
@topsyturvy54853 ай бұрын
@@FAKusch Really surprised they didn’t include a C&C in this comparison.
@FAKusch3 ай бұрын
@@topsyturvy5485 Agreed, as I bought them because I got tired of tuning issues with vintage Luds and Gretsch drums, even though I loved the sounds. C&C nails the vintage sounds but with flawless, modern shells that are so easy to tune without fuss.
@LouProsperi3 ай бұрын
I think the George Way kit sounded most consistent between the full mix and the room mics, and I liked those best during the head to head. I can imagine those long tension rods can make mounting a new head challenging since it seems it they (and the whole hoop) might shift off center. Keeping those perfectly straight can't be that easy, especially on the floor tom. Thanks for another great video!
@drums54343 ай бұрын
Ludwig was my favorite. Also really liked the Rogers.
@charlesavino88263 ай бұрын
Those George Way drums most definitely caught my interest. I’m wondering if the lack of hardware helped them ring and resonate just a bit more than the other kits. Additionally, I can only say that I too must have a bass drum that speaks back to me. It’s the first thing I do when I’m playing a room, put up the kick drum put the pedal on it and give it a thump. It tells me everything about the room and the way my drums are going to sound that gig. My Gretsch Brooklyn’s from DCP are still my all-time favorite kit out of the four that I own. But dang those George Way drums have got me thinking! Love your videos! :)
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
I know... they have a few of us thinking right now too!
@charlesavino88263 ай бұрын
@@drumcenternh those Aristocrats are stunning, I gotta stop opening your Friday fills emails!! 🤣
@KirkMcConnor3 ай бұрын
Great work, guys!
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Thank you, Kirk!
@magroves2 ай бұрын
I really love me some Gretsch but you were definitely feeling it when you played the George Way. Super fun. I obviously have my 2 faves but all four of these are fantastic. I also like the Ludwig Snare.
@DrummerGrrrl3 ай бұрын
Huge love for those Paiste cymbals with the Gretsch Broadkaster kit.
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Right? A great combo!
@af71193 ай бұрын
All of those kits are great to my ears. Small differences in sound, but they are definitely noticeable. Best snares were the ludwig and the george way. Those cymbals were sweet!
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Thanks and I know... those Paistes were PERFECT!
@p.diddle3 ай бұрын
Thank you for all the timenand effort you put into these reviews. I really like the more agressive attack on the Gretsch - especially the rack tom and bass drum. Second for me would be the Ludwig Legacy - it sounds a bit more open and warm. The George Wayvset was a pleasant surprise, but the floor tom lacked some bottom end in the comparison I think. It’s a good value set - but I would never take it to a gig with those center lugs and long lug screws.
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and supporting us!
@mfratino15673 ай бұрын
Excellent video, thank you. The George Way kit has a lot of similarities to the vintage Ludwig Clubdates. Sometimes less hardware is just what you need in certain situations. Cheers.
@Sundaydrumday3 ай бұрын
The "come abuse our E-drums sign." Is pretty boss level stuff!
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
😎
@ozoz29313 ай бұрын
The George Way sounds kinda like a classic maple Ludwig 🤔 kinda? They all sound great for sure! I wish I could get my Remo Ambassadors to sound that good ✌️ Great job as always!
@tommumma14353 ай бұрын
Thanks gentlemen! Love them all! I’d take the Ludwig as well
@emb23023 ай бұрын
They’re all great sounding kits. It has to be said, the playing was outstanding throughout this video. Gretsch would get the nod from me with Rogers being a close second. That Ludwig snare was great too.
@tinterlande3 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@davidpatrick93693 ай бұрын
Well done! Nice to see the Classic American drums representing so well!
@Chumpers0012 ай бұрын
Such a great video! Thank you for putting this together!
@jeffsousa3992 ай бұрын
Ludwig all the way!!! Just like my first 1966 King Beat set in white marine pearl!! Pat Travers sound man, said it was the best sounding kit he ever miked up!! 3ply mahogany with reinforced rings!! Damn!! Why did I sell those in 1985!!!! lol… miss those baby’s!
@SeanZetterlund3 ай бұрын
As the owner of a Gretsch Broadkaster, I've always been crazy satisfied just tuning them up to a medium tuning with coated Remo Ambassadors on the toms, can't go wrong! That being said, this video might have convinced me to pick up a Ludwig Legacy in the future too LOL
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Haha oops! Can't go wrong with either.
@matthewpredmore65233 ай бұрын
I’m with you guys; I loved the sound of the George Way kit, but I am a heavy hitter and would be tuning it constantly, I’m afraid. Ludwig has a heavy duty quality that stands out from the crowd, and the sound is right there also. So for me, either the George Way Aristocrat series or the Ludwig. Great video as always.
@JulianFernandez3 ай бұрын
killer vid, thanks guys!
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Thank you, Julian!
@silentskystudios3 ай бұрын
I'm loving the new product offerings from Rogers, including the drums and hardware. I still own an early 70's Rogers Powertone kit, and it sounds so great. Much more fun to play than my newer drums--even when compared to my high-end Tama Starclassic and Ludwig Classic Maple kits.
@DP-wi6hm3 ай бұрын
Another great video, thx. Excellent comparisons.
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@catfromcaracas803 ай бұрын
Great stuff as always gents! I’ve got a bunch of George way snares and they’re amazing. Lil detail question: did you tune the 12” gretsch down or tuned the other 13” toms up? Thanks again for all the killer content! 🙏🏼🤟🏼
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Great drums! All drums were tuned the same frequency wise top and bottom using the Tune Bot. Here is where we landed: Top 208Hz Bottom 236Hz
@catfromcaracas803 ай бұрын
@@drumcenternh thanks fellas!
@Theratron3 ай бұрын
All great kits, but I would go with the Gretsch. The softer, more rounded sound is just picked up better by the microphones as well (they are less "jumpscared" when a tom is hit, in a way). I guess that's why most sound technicians still prefer Gretsch drums for studio recordings? They just record better, a fuller sound because they are not as loud. When it comes to the snares I preferred the "pop" of the Ludwig COB though. I have a Gretsch USA Chrome over Brass myself and those are always great snares with a nice, sharp attack.
@TedDiabetes3 ай бұрын
I greatly appreciate the Nasty Nate cameo @12:44.
@dogmart3 ай бұрын
George Way green finish is gorgeous.
@craigjohnchronicles25043 ай бұрын
Love Ludwig, Rogers and Gretsch drums. The George Way surprised in sound - the GW snare just 'cracked'... Not a bad pick in any of these. Of these, I'm going Rogers Cleveland in Purple Diamond Pearl - freaking beautiful. Speaking of 'surprised', really surprised the Sonor Vintage set didn't make this comparison vid. Love it in the Rosewood Semi-gloss.
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Thanks and glad you enjoyed it! The Sonor Vintage kit is great, just not a maple/poplar shell like the rest in the comparison.
@davidjavids24313 ай бұрын
Sounds similar, But with a different feeling for each medium they would be playing. AWESOME JOB THANKS
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@davidsuprenant27823 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great work you put into this video. Great job guys.I would buy the Geo way kit.,they sound great, laquer finish is stunning,and may I add,the hardware lugs are triple A chrome plated.Great kit, especially for the money.,pretty hard to beat.!!!!
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@itsjim28752 ай бұрын
When a kid, some 65-70 years ago, I played Slingerland in middle and high school.. always looked forward to getting Ludwig. The top of the heap (best U.S.) I always wanted was Gretsch. Then along came the Japanese stuff - most excellent, but left U.S. kits in the dust because all the kids now wanted the "new" Japanese gear.
@jehouse863 ай бұрын
Oh man those Rogers are a beauty!
@dmdrum101Ай бұрын
I have a GW tuxedo kit in same color and it looks, feels, and sounds amazing!
@brent37603 ай бұрын
Ludwig all the way! Those toms and bass drum sound amazing, also the best sounding snare drum. Imo of course.
@jkdrummer95853 ай бұрын
George Way drums sounded nice and warm and had a nice ring to them.
@DrumerFunk13 ай бұрын
They all sound amazing! At the of the day best deal will win!
@scotttucker81273 ай бұрын
It was a no-brainer for me the George way kit
@CornerStoreDrums3 ай бұрын
Definition of TOP SHELF!! DCP 💯
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
🙌❤️🤘
@dancalabrese35233 ай бұрын
I love the head 2 head portion of these videos. You could really hear the sound differences in each kit. Like Tony and Adam, I'd probably buy the Ludwig kit, but that Rogers kit was pretty on looks and sound. Really liked their snare drum. Another great video from DCP.
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much Dan!
@carlupthegrove2623 ай бұрын
I love the wide open sound. Especially the bass drum. The Rogers kick drum sounds HUGEEE. They all sound great but I'd probably go with the Rogers kit.....just not that finish. 🙂
@goldenageofdinosaurs71923 ай бұрын
I’m a big fan of open bass drums. Such a great boom to them!
@AdamStachelek2 ай бұрын
Rheameaux is going to be my next Canadian art rock band name. You heard it here.
@DP-wi6hm3 ай бұрын
Lifelong Ludwig guy here ! But , they all sounded great.
@stankociov3 ай бұрын
George Way - interesting set! guys, beautifully made video, thank you! :)
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you!
@mineralt2 ай бұрын
Thr more I watch this channel the more I realize that there is very little differences in kicks and toms. Makes me realize I have been correct focusing on my snare(black beauty), my kick pedal, and cymbals….and of course what they look like
@gary11283 ай бұрын
All the kits looked and sounded great! I wonder how well the Geo. H. Way hold their tuning. In these sound comparisons, like you, I generally pick the Ludwig’s. Is that because it is the sound we grew up with or do they really sound better? To my ears Ludwig’s just sit better in the mix compared to other brands.
@pauldrumwell49223 ай бұрын
A pity you didn't have a Sonor vintage. Thank you for the content and effort.
@paulgiacalone44713 ай бұрын
They all sound great , but the Gretsch Broadkaster is the most vintage and overall best sound especially for recording., and the Bass drum …. Thanks for doing this video . The Gretsch also has internal mufflers available
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Thanks and good feedback!
@paulgiacalone44713 ай бұрын
Your welcome, you guys make great videos . I plan to make a visit to your shop hopefully before the winter sets in. Living in upstate NY the winters are long too.
@jrfrondelli20233 ай бұрын
ALL great kits! ***CLOSED-EYE LISTENING TEST*** BEST SMALL TOM: Gretsch BEST FLOOR TOM: It's a draw BEST KICK: Gretsch BEST SNARE: Ludwig I'd take any one of them on a gig, but if I had to pick one kit, it's Gretsch. Their snare was my second pick, so it's the winner for me, in terms of looks too. 🥰 Great video again guys!
@wyrlismike3 ай бұрын
Do you guys eq and compress the drums on these videos, the sound is great
@hyamsosnow39733 ай бұрын
Another great comparison by DCP! The Gretsch was definitely outclassed by the other three: the toms sounded thin and papery and the bass drum had no 'oomph' whatsoever. (Listening on Klipsch Cornwall 15" 3-ways.) When I owned a Gretsch USA kit from '84 to '95 I found the same exact thing, which is why I switched to Ludwig in 1990. In your comparison the Ludwig bass drum was the definite winner, although the Rogers and Geo. Way were also very good. I agree about hearing the Rogers' sound 'jumping out' at you more than the other three. I'm a Dyna-Sonic owner and that SuperTen snare sounded surprisingly good to me. A good set of hard cases would make the Geo Way kit roadworthy; without cases those long tension rods will wind up bent in short order (ask me how I know).
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watch and glad you enjoyed it!
@DrummerGrrrl3 ай бұрын
I looooove that Mod Orange!
@bemolbang27763 ай бұрын
Ludwig Legacy Maple bass drum ❤❤
@stephenlandry90612 ай бұрын
All great sounding kits , but I’m a Luddy guy
@joeldrummer233 ай бұрын
The George Way really impressed me
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
It impressed all of us as well!
@johnnybionic133 ай бұрын
I would love for yall to review Natal's Zenith series if possible. All 3 of these sounded great!
@EricBeam13133 ай бұрын
That Broadkaster FTW. The 12" tom helps.
@Monsterdrumma3 ай бұрын
They all sound great but as usual for me give me the Gretsch with the Ludwig snare.
@TysonFroment22 ай бұрын
You guys should do a battle of the Acrylic kits.
@camerondean68043 ай бұрын
Four awesome kits.
@julesplace91073 ай бұрын
The Gretsch kit was good. Toms were ok, but the kick really stood out. The Ludwig sounded great across the board. Not sure how I like the Ludwig kick versus the Gretsch. May be a toss up. I was impressed with the details mentioned about the Rogers drums. Really dig the Rogers snare (not in comparison to the others, just in general). Rogers kick drum was on par with the first two. With the Geo. Way kit, I wish I could have heard it before all the talk. My expectations were really lowered and I think I may have had a prejudice. In the head to head, the floors seemed pretty consistent. The Gretsch kick drum sounded higher pitched than the rest, certainly missing some low end rumble. I really didn't consider the snares as they weren't all matching the shell sets. Over all, if budget wasn't of concern, the Ludwig would be my choice. In a pinch, the Geo. Way was ample. Great video.
@Thesmokymountainman3 ай бұрын
Absolutely love the sound of vintage drums. Here the Ludwig had more low end in my opinion so it wins for me. I wouldn’t have painted it white though but that’s just me. Love Gretsch also but not a fan of the silver and wish they had an option for clear. Thanks for the Demo always excellent.
@jbeezybeats3 ай бұрын
I don’t know why - it really doesn’t matter - but my heart broke into a thousand pieces when he sharpied on that blank head lol
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
A worthy sacrifice.
@davepounds89243 ай бұрын
Wow! The sound of the Broadkaster set blew me away!!!!
@Musiknird3 ай бұрын
I hoped there would be a Slingerland set in there as well. Would have been cool to hear it.
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Not currently available, maybe someday...
@stephanerichard62673 ай бұрын
All are good, maybe the Ludwig edges out the others but I'd buy all 4 of them.
@5drum53 ай бұрын
I would like to see something from Pearl. As they have one for sure that would be in this class.
@banditY2K3 ай бұрын
I liked the Geo Way kit the best. Crazy that it's 1/2 the price.
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
Hard to argue with the value that kit is bringing to the table!
@simonrobert98583 ай бұрын
Rogers now owned by Yamaha. It's almost same story with Premier (and KORG; then they buyback). So, there is added modern manifacturing to Rogers drum like Premier?
@goodtimejohnny89722 ай бұрын
Spot on with the Ludwig tuning feel. I've been playing mine for 24 years. When using another kit whether it be a backline or someone else's, that's the first thing I notice about the drums is how the tuning lugs feel. The same thing on guitar tuners. Makes a huge difference. Also as a side note, I feel quality control has gone downhill. My local drum shop had a $3000 DW kit with flawed chrome hoops. For that kind of dough everything on a kit should be flawless. If I worked there those hoops would have been sent back to the manufacturer.
@jkf91673 ай бұрын
I'd love to compare these in a mix. At first, I didn't the Gretsch as much as I expected to, and I started thinking that maybe the essential Broadkaster tone is with giant drums, but on second listen, I think that the Broadkasters and Tuxedo sound the most spacious and biggest in the mix because of the way their mids cut through. The Ludwig has such a classic sound, and the kick sounded huge, but I don't think that the floor tom sounded as good as the other sets. Could have been tuning. The Rogers sounded a lot like the Ludwig, but with a slightly lower center of gravity. I liked their authority and their lows. They sound like they're made for rock. The George Way kit sounded the best to me. It had some of the pungent old-school mids of the Broadkaster, with some of the authority of the Ludwig and Rogers. Club Date-style sets look cool and sound cool. And that green is an exceptionally cool color. I'd go for the George Way or the Rogers because they have the most distinct personalities.
@SteveKnightVO3 ай бұрын
Have you guys heard of Baltimore drum co?
@michaell.89383 ай бұрын
1. George Way 2. Ludwig 3. Rogers 4. Gretsch
@roybeckerman92533 ай бұрын
Matching snares should have been used on all kits, to give prospective buyers a chance to hear them with the rest of the drums.. What was the Ludwig snare..? Great demonstration.
@adamfrost37223 ай бұрын
Not in stock. It is what it is. Snare is supraluxe, in video and description
@m.charron3 ай бұрын
These are all cool in their way, but I'd be hard pressed to give up my Sakae Trilogy set for one of them.
@rickjones5073 ай бұрын
I own a George Way walnut tuxedo kit and a broadkaster kit in the exact sizes and finish in this vid. If I was to part with one of these kits it would be the broadkaster. its good, but there is something about the GHW kit that I don't ever want to part with. its like owning a beautiful piece of art. It's pretty near perfect in my opinion
@drumcenternh3 ай бұрын
The George Way kits have a feel and vibe to them that is pretty hard to beat!
@michaeljohnson80583 ай бұрын
Cool video! Am i a hard hitter? I’ve never cracked a cymbal or broke a drum head..🧐