The Best Paint Games Workshop Has Ever Made?! NEW SHADES

[@KabinMiniatures]

6:09 easiest five John bucks I ever made! Bolter with Aquilia Wings by Smashing Heretics, of course.

[@Abfallkannibale]

5 out of 3 noise marines agree.

[@ArynCrinn]

What can I buy with my five Jon bucks?

[@tompayne4945]

Shoulda been painting an imprisoned Skaven for full nerd in joke 🎃

[@NeverTheSame]

@@ArynCrinn 20 Jonbucks gets you a Squidbuck. 15 Squidbucks can be traded for a GW dinero. And I don't even want to tell you what 100 GW dineros gets you.

[@Chefnekromant]

Paused the video to look for a good comment about that and you did the job very well!

[@allenbenningfield3865]

I appreciate the evenhanded review of these shades and the new contrast paints. However, the thing that made this video worth it for me was this. “Make regular painting a part of your routine and paint things that excite you. Improvements and fun will always follow.” Simple but valid truths.

[@mikemccoy7931]

Unfortunately I think any of the improvements are overshadowed by the 25% smaller bottle, GW prices are getting silly enough as is the past few years

[@Chzbrgrlulz]

You mean overshaded

[@sindrimyr2423]

Yeah and it’s crazy how he just tried to gloss over that and quickly move on to other things. That’s literally terrible dude is such a sheep 💀

[@NightfallTH]

Don't wait on a comment from Ninjon regarding this. He signed off his soul with the GW NDA, nothing ever coming out of his mouth can be considered un-biased and the truth anymore.

[@BeauregardQuitman]

@@NightfallTH Do you know for sure he signed the NDA?

[@sindrimyr2423]

@@NightfallTH yeah he signed his soul away to cover sh***y products that are overpriced and outshined by Scale Colour and Vallejo.

[@ZK-sz8vs]

when i used to get nuln oil and agarax earthshade, i would also get a bottle of lahmian medium for each and cut them 50/50. it resulted in exactly the effect you are getting from these new shades. so it looks like they are just selling you 50% of the pigment at 25% less volume for the same cost.

[@jeremiahembs5343]

That's exactly what it looks like. Crooks.

[@ironheadedDoF]

As for the effect of the new Nuln, I have a pot of 50/50 normal and gloss mix which apply the same as the New, including slight satin finish. If i thin it down with Contrast Medium, i get less shine.. if i thin with Lahmian Medium, i get the same thinned look as new Nuln. Conclusion: Ripoff.

[@haunted_bagel]

The biggest travesty here is that they've made the bottles smaller and kept the price the same....ridiculous.

[@KMKimo]

Yet people will keep buying

[@captainredmaw]

Good ole' shrink-flation

[@georgiospapadopoulos5140]

Playing the devils advocate here, but if youd mix in another 6ml medium or water into the new nuln oil, youd end up with basically the same product. Considering how much darker the new formula is.

[@ryanbrooks3432]

Yeah, and aside from the fact that it was more product I liked the size difference cause I could always pick out my shades because of the big bottle, now they will mix in with the contrasts more

[@sands201]

People will still buy them though, despite Vallejo and Scale Colour being far superior people will still get on their knees for the Citadel range because they don’t know how to paint models without GW paints.

[@DragonaxFilms]

5:00 yoooo that Plaguebearer looks fantastic, I never would've guessed it was just washes if you hadn't said so!

[@Darkreaper1982]

Smaller pots for the same price is something GW have been since the 90's. I know, i was painting minis for 2nd edition WH40k and Necromunda back then and saw GW shrink paint pot sizes and keep the same price. They also reduced the number of minis you got in blister packs and kept the same price. Some things never change...

[@KneeCapHill]

Corporate bloat.

[@vinguyen3254]

Despite all my rage im still just a rat in a cage!! John is secretly giving us signs GW has him locked away and needs help!

[@lovemysi07]

Nice, fair review of these paints. I hope you know how much it helps to see you using them. There's tons of videos from folks who also attended the event that are applying them one by one on a model or test piece. As much as that helps to see the individual color, it doesn't put the paints into a real world scenario. You mixed, layered, and have great examples of how to push these paints to another level. You didn't demonstrate just the colors, but how to use them as a new tool. I'm impressed with your use of shade over contrast. Especially Ballz Deep on the shield. Well done.

[@kevinhayes517]

Great video and an excellent review of these new paints - your detailed info helps understanding what they can and can’t do…and seeing your painted figure is also a great help. Thank you!

[@ohjay93]

This is by far the best review of the new shades I have seen! They way you reflect and describe how the new shades work and responds really enables me to consider how it would affect my particular way of working and painting. Thank you so much!

[@SuerWojtek531]

Damn they keep improving their paints, maybe in 10 years we will deserve dropper bottles :P

[@asaffin1]

At this point, after seeing all of the other competing ranges come out in bottles, the decision to continue to produce flip top pots is entirely conscious and intended to produce more waste and thus generate more sales through premature replacement. It will never change.

[@Vorpal_Wit]

Yeah, but they will be 7ml dropper bottles and cost $21.

[@Scherdnr]

If this paint release was “the future of painting or the new era” or whatever they advertised, imagine the party they’ll throw for themselves if they ever switch to droppers.

[@pesadillaaa3]

​@@asaffin1 Si puede cambiar, pueden hacer botes peores.

[@jewishbaker]

I can't believe how detailed your painting tips are dude honestly there by far the most helpful I have found!

[@MaskedRiderChris]

Agreed, smaller pot/larger price= ridiculous. I'll only buy these when my current collection of washes finally run out, and I'm not using them near as often as I used to, further.

[@Denison512]

Honestly to me the new shades look like what I've been doing past few years which is the add contrast medium to help draw the wash into the recesses

[@MarkusMaximus2000]

Lovely thorough review again. Really appreciated that you go through the plusses and the minuses. I'm looking forward to picking some up when my existing ones run out. Beautiful finish on that Kruleboy.

[@JustLookinkAround]

The moment I realized you made it, was when a random dude in a Warhammer store in Munich told me to check out your Night Lords video. You're international, babyyyy!

[@Kulliwa]

So, you're telling me that this plaguebearer is entirely painted with shades ?! That's damn impressive

[@vindik8or]

That's the video I was hoping to see when he showed that mini.

[@StackingLimit]

Thanks for the overview. Between this and your contrast review I have all the information I need to buy the new paints.

[@Nicolas-yd2mw]

This is the most beautiful miniature painted this shades and contrast i've ever seen. Wow !

[@sempernovatusgames6798]

"And improvement and fun will always follow". That!! Thank you for another great video and a greater lesson!

[@chuck-n-debtaylor7553]

Sounded like a direct nod to Bullet w/ Butterfly Wings - with a little hybred lyric from Schoolhouse Rock - “I’m just a Bill…” 1976 - Saturday morning kids’ tv…yeah, I’m old! Good content - looking forward to trying a few of these shades/paints and adding to the arsenal 👍🏻

[@gaijin_lfc]

Great video Jon. Really appreciate the level of explanation and candidness!

[@ClaudeBM]

These Intros are some of the best around! keep doing what you do best Jon

[@alwoodsmodellingmayhem]

So good I've watched this twice already!!! And there you go again Jon, encouragement and more encouragement. You really build us up to 'slay the grey'! 👏👏👏👏👍😉

[@brianhall4182]

Oof. That bit about spilling Nuln Oil hit home. Literally on the very first set of figures I ever painted I knocked over my pot of it and lost about two thirds all over my desk. From then on it became the main reason why I dislike GW's containers. Knock over a dropper bottle? No worries. Knock over a GW pot? Welp, there goes 4 bucks worth of paint.

[@amandaweeks2103]

Agrax is usually the one that gets spilled at my desk. It hurts every time.

[@Nugget7211]

Song reference is Bullet with Butterfly Wings, right?

[@simon2028]

Thank you and keep it up, always a pleasure to watch your videos

[@umairav255]

Gorgeous paint job! Would love to see more painting in the future!

[@sirn3cr045]

No shit man you have given me the inspiration to paint my plastic crack so many times now lol. Everytime I cbf painting I watch one of your vids and BOOM its painting time! Your a true legend my dude.

[@sleestack2723]

You know the vids gonna be good when Jon is using the “Bush’s Baked Bean phone”

[@beng6149]

Love your wise words at the end about new paints don't make you better!

[@brendanarmstrong7802]

I'm telling you, Jon, for transparent paint, just pick up the Golden High Flow transparent set. It's 8 excellent transparents that make a great compliment to your contrast and speedpaint lineups.

[@graefx]

I remember first getting started and the law of the land was basically "base coat, wash, dry brush your base again, and maybe a dry brush highlight" to get you to 3 colors fast. How far we've come. I will miss the glaze/tinting that nuln oil skill in a bottle provided, it's such a normal part of my work flow but things change. That shield was radioactive bright and I'm impressed by how amazing it looks once all the washes are applied.

[@Dash277]

I'm loving it man. I have been a fan of Black Templar thinned with contrast medium instead of Nuln Oil. Really any contrast thinned with the medium does this. That looks like what this new shade is. So yup for me.

[@brkfstfd]

That’s what it is exactly I believe. All of the shade line now use a different medium than before - the contrast medium.

[@serkman9558]

your paint analysis videos are great

[@ShweetPete]

Ninjon I just want to say I love you. Thanks buddy. Keep it up.

[@Lulu-th5bo]

I was super hyped about all these new paints and washes, tried them yesterday in gw store and they’re all varying degrees of inks thinned and mixed with flow aids for more money

[@Nosferatuklown]

I enjoy the thought of the shades working more like contrasts to stain less but you hit the nail on the head with the fact we lose the tinting capabilities with the new shades, maybe they we launch a new Glaze line in the future for that hole in their paint line now? But I'm not getting rid of my home made oil washes any time soon for these. When the announcent of "new revolution in painting" came out my guess was GW branded oils or enamels due to how most people are now phasing into them versus acrylic washes.

[@leostarrs-cunningham8576]

Interesting and thanks for sharing your insight. Also Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness is still a great album.

[@brianrowe5624]

The pumpkins reference was awesome! You rock brother keep up the great work!

[@tobiasakerlund1660]

Did you get your 5 Jon-bucks?

[@psyberwolfe]

It is palette paper that you can buy WAAAAY cheaper from an art supply store, or Michael's.

[@TheTkhhwilliams]

Wow! Fabulous pirate-voice! Well done. My favorite mid video ad ever!!

[@needlesbeckett]

Great tutorial, thank you 🙏

[@oleww50]

“Ends call on the tin” love the detail! 🤣👌 new paints do look pretty great. Thanks for the vid! “Egg-racks, Tuuurrrp’T shade”

[@Zzrik]

So they can make amazing new colors yet some how think that it's a good idea to make some bottles smaller,yet keep the same price. I wonder what goes on in the minds of GW some times apart from new ways of making more money that is.

[@brianhall4182]

Their prices are what push me towards Vallejo. GW paints are nice but they just screw you over in terms of price per fluid ounce.

[@max16]

i make a custom shade with the grime and agrax. 3-1 makes an insainly good shade for pretty much anything that you want dirty AND give you deep recese lineing.

[@JEANPIXBN]

I need this dude’s videos on a regular basis for the overall well being of my mental health lol

[@MrNickpeck36]

Unless it's a color I can't live without, I won't bother with their paints until they move to dropper bottles. I'm trying to rescue my current GW paints as they gobbed up really bad while being unopened... Great video!

[@hiddenleaf414]

Is it because dropper bottles have a better seal?

[@MrZauberelefant]

@@hiddenleaf414 that, and you get colour out without having to clean a brush afterwards, and drops are very simple to count for mixing recipes. Oh, and knocking them over results in 0 spill

[@Pv2Bagbar]

I love the little bit at the end of just painting being the best way to improve. Is there a video out for that plaguebearer? I'm just starting out on some maggotkin units, and would love to see how you got that green skin.

[@grimmriffer]

It's amazing how a 70 year old Disney film set how pirate accents will sound in film forever. As for the paints, can't wait for Army Painter to rip them off at half the price! 👍

[@Evilminiature]

To bad ap sucks. Both their regular and speedpaints aint worth shit.

[@pattyjohnston6781]

Smashing pumpkins! Thanks for the great video and throw back to my teens👍🏻

[@chaderway]

Great video! Now I'll have to grab some of these from my FLGS and give them a try 😎.

[@NeverTheSame]

God damn dude. As a relatively new painter, that model you painted is inspirational!

[@lion8974]

Bullet With Butterfly Wings - Smashing Pumpkins Side note, I really enjoyed your mix of paints (GW, ProAcryl, etc). It brought another perspective on using the new inks and contrast paints. Have you tried the new GW shades and contrasts in an airbrush yet?

[@lovemysi07]

I also watched another one about the Monument Paint line. What I'd love to see is a head to head on Transparent paints vs. Contrast.

[@klasclaywood2667]

Nice and honest review, as usual

[@sv1078]

super informative. guess we're doing two coats of nuln now. So it goes. Amazing end ork mini too!

[@johncrowe6470]

Another excellent and informative video.

[@Misosgameroom]

Really great video man. Keep it up!

[@theefamilyadventures]

Not only did I just discover Umbrella Games, but I also found out his brick and mortar shop is 5 min away from my house. That place is awesome!!!

[@ninja_cazzle2641]

Great vid Jon

[@aaronbono4688]

Damn, $9 for less paint? I am definitely graduating to oils.

[@Anjohl]

That new Nuln Oil looks *fantastic*!

[@Abfallkannibale]

The one good thing here is, that I finally have the drive to boost my alchemy skills and make my own washes.

[@Losark1]

It's reminding me of painting mini's with a watercolor workflow. light to dark, careful blocking etc.

[@siennaistrans]

i've kind of fallen in love with quick painting using contrast paints and shades, and tbh that grey would look right at home on the nid scheme I'm doing lmao

[@TheLBG7]

I like the song reference! one of my favorites!

[@jaxon44]

As always, I come here for the intros and bloopers and I wind up learning a ton.

[@seansommo]

"My bullet with butterfly wings." .... But otherwise awesome and informative video. Your one of the mini painters that I make sure not to miss any videos.

[@ShaneAJ2003]

A Smashing Pumpkins classic. Still a decent song.

[@stephenrenwick8781]

Great honest review.

[@MrAllgoodnamesaregon]

Thanks for this review

[@magnus0017]

Wow, 25% less for the same price? GW is holding back with the price increase. I don't use any GW paint, except for one can of primer, which I can't wait to replace with an airbrush. It does seem like the paints have improved, but also, couldn't care less. But thanks for showing them off. And yay pirate jon!

[@sands201]

Yeah a lot of these shades don’t even look that great, I’ve seen better from Vallejos line of shade paints.

[@Retrofun69]

And this is what GW created with their abusive practices. I also dont care anymore about their paints or minis, id rather buy from other companies that respect me as a customer.

[@SpoonyBard88]

Hate to say this, but nobody asked.

[@flameknightdragon]

@@SpoonyBard88 and no one care what you think,

[@SpoonyBard88]

@@flameknightdragon :)

[@jeremiahpointer1299]

Smashing Pumpkins Jon! And still jealous. I want those new paints.

[@christianschmidt1784]

Smashing pumpkins reveal how old John really is despite his baby smooth skin... The world is a vampire.

[@kena3234]

Really great looking shield

[@undeadmusky]

Broke down andbought a hoodie Jon!! Keep it up!

[@jamesk122]

Bullet with Butterfly Wings. Informative breakdown, good sir.

[@alwoodsmodellingmayhem]

I have since forever (OK....40 years) always undercoated my figures with black, so making the change to white in order to try these techniques will be something new in itself.👍😉

[@donalds1083]

1:20 when he said what the GW pallet paper was, immediately drove to hobby lobby and found a Palette Paper Pad - 9" x 12" from Master Touch for $6.99. Waiting for them to go 50% during their monthly sales, cut the pad in half, long story short (80) 4.5" x 6" pallet paper for $4.25. God bless Ninjon!!

[@yadadsellsavon1703]

6:05 Smashing Pumpkins, Bullet With Butterfly Wings ^^

[@Luno870]

Coffee staining, that is a perfect discription! But a side effect I've noticed is it gives a leather feel to me

[@candidgamera]

I will definitely buy that pale grey.

[@seanfinley2069]

GW continues to deliver good-quality, exciting products while screwing us on the value for money. At least they're consistent.

[@serkman9558]

this september prices of models will likely increase i guess

[@shannybug666]

@@serkman9558 GW's yearly price adjustments already happened for the year back in March. :-/

[@seanfinley2069]

@@shannybug666 Hey it might still happen

[@basstedson]

@@shannybug666 We've had one price increase yes, but what about second price increase?

[@shannybug666]

@@basstedsonlol, I work for GW. I'm pretty certain price increases are done for the year. :)

[@Lodorn]

2:12 is that old - new correct? For nuln oil you had the new on the left and for agrax the left definitely looks the better and less splotchy on the flat areas.

[@vee_tinymoose]

That’s what I though too

[@themobius8077]

@@vee_tinymoose And me looks the opposite to what he said.

[@timothyferguson4248]

I underestimated how intense that Satin finish on the new formula would be! Glad to know I wasn’t the only one and AK Ultra Matte was a quick solution!

[@LukeMartinVideo]

Love the orruk by the way!

[@csafadit]

Chef's kiss for the intro. Also, The Smashing Pumpkins.

[@kej6753]

Bullet w/Butterfly Wings...Straight back to high school with that one

[@sweatilaa5325]

So less paint but still same price... Yeah, no, I'm switching shade brands. And for how it covers, I actually like how the current, old (?), shades give it an overall tint of black, brown, red, and so on. For me it helped bring the tone I wanted to fit with my bases and how the colors would feel. Agrax gave a nice dirty feel to it while Nuln Oil darkened down the armor or guns to help bring down the brightness of the colors used, something I really enjoyed since I'm not a fan of too bright colors. Agrax on lighter colors really give it a feel that the item has been out and about for some time. Really not sure the new ones will do the same thing for me, seeing how master Ninjon's examples turned out. Will probably turn to Army Painter's washes, hear good things about their soft, dark, and strong tones. Or Vallejo Game color washes, though I haven't heard much about them but their paints are good. Or some other brand my friendly local gaming store recommends.

[@Tannhauser42]

You can also make your own washes with a few items from a local hobby/crafts store like Michaels or Hobby Lobby with a sale or coupon. I use Les Bursley's wash recipe, which uses matte medium, flow aid (a good thing to have anyway), distilled water, and acrylic artist inks.

[@sweatilaa5325]

@@Tannhauser42 Thanks for the tip, never thought of that! I might give that a go. Have only been mini painting for a year so I don't have that stuff at home but I might be worth looking into making my own washes now. Still got 3/4 of my Agrax and Nuln so no rush yet :) Bet it's more than a lot cheaper as well.

[@advictoriamgaming7554]

I'm relying on the tinting aspect as well... i just love how a carefully applied coat of the orig nuln oil darkens leadbelcher and pushes it into a matt dark metal. Something I've been unable to recreate with contrast paints. Not to mention that they are a nightmare to work with on smooth flat panels

[@rwjscaper]

@@sweatilaa5325 try oil washes my dude, they are very nice and really grimdark on a vibrant army like blood angels or imperial fists

[@sweatilaa5325]

@@rwjscaper or Blood Ravens! haven't been painting for too long and I thought oils washes was a more advanced method, but might be worth giving it a go now

[@ryandishong]

Love your videos...you won my subscription. Would be interested to see you try and review warcolours paint. They use a gel based medium. Vince V did a review a few years ago but there's only like 2 youtubers that have any reviews on them at all. One loves them and the other not so much. Keep up the great work!

[@Boodoosh69]

Quality video Jon :) I now know how I am painting my Kruleboyz thanks dude. Next time get Darryl to pronounce Agrax

[@hiddenleaf414]

As a Deathwing player I’m excited to try out the new Mortarian Grime and Soulblight Grey.

[@bdags1996]

Bullet with Butterfly Wings, excellent SP reference 👍🏽😎

[@TheKrakenfist]

The (sadly soon to be discontinued) line of four gloss shades behaves a lot like this new formulation of shades. It flows into the recesses almost too well, to the point that you REALLY need to watch for pooling. A great way to use them is to get a nice wash done (since they don't stain or leave tidemarks) and then matte varnish the model. I think some form of gloss medium, like you mention, is the key to this property--same for all the contrast paints. It's a little harder to see on raised surfaces, but if you look at parts where contrast paint pools, it's noticeably glossy.

[@willrusin9200]

Ahh bullet with butterfly wings, still my fav song of theirs

[@johnr9488]

Loved the video. Do you think the increase in quality of the shades is worth the smaller bottles?

[@Scheduledd]

Nice orc. Not sure about the Nuln Oil, I'm going to streatch out my Badab Black wash the more I can.

[@AnnieAturday]

I'm really looking forward to the grey for a cheat shade for white cloth.

[@jmc7034]

I’m looking at that new grey wash though I’ll more than likely get carried away and buy all the new washes😇

[@dickybird6916]

Just grab the vallejo one cheaper and the same effect

[@scottyk996]

That grey will be great for clone/storm troopers