The Best Radio I've Ever Reviewed Got Even Better. The Choyong LC90 Gets Better Every Day

The first video I put out on this radio a few months back got some backlash. Mostly centered around the radios lack of general 1-30mhz coverage and a lack of SSB mode.
While I felt that these are nice features, I was still please with my radio. Well, a few months have past and wow, the engineers over at Choyong stayed busy. First they added general coverage from .1 to 30mhz, then they added SSB modes to hear all the Ham coverstations. Then they updated the internet radio side of things, then they added voice search, now they have removed an issue with some of their radios that apparently caused harmonics on certain freqs. While I never had an issue with it, apparently they wanted it fixed, so they fixed it!
They also made a lot of minor updates to try and improve the AM reception, witch I find to be it's only real weakness. While still not a performer on that band, it sure is a changed radio.
I loved it when it first came out, and with these updates, I love it enough to have gone out and bought a second one with my own money. The truth is, there is no other radio out there like it at any price. The internet radio side is a constant gift of new and random stations that no regular radio could ever hope to receive.
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[@wxfreak]

Please don't confuse criticism with hate. It’s great news that the manufacturer listened to the viewers and made changes. Actions like making improvements based on customer feedback will make companies stand out and become more successful. Great review and well done, Choyoung.

[@FarpointFarms]

Thank you for this- I truly feel like they do care about what the consumer is looking for and listened to what people had to say

[@DirtyWesley]

You just don't know how many cool devices you've turned me on to. Please keep doing these reviews.

[@FarpointFarms]

Thanks so much for the kind words. I am blessed to get the chance to check out all these great things and It means a lot to have people enjoy the content.

[@JustinPartridg-k5j]

Thank you very much

[@timothyfoley3149]

I appreciate this fair, balanced and honest review. I’ve been following Choyong on Facebook and it’s clear they’re invested in their product by taking feedback and updating the product software. 👍 review. Choyong now sells an LC90 mini for $50 less and a smaller am/fm/internet model the A8W for $99.

[@FarpointFarms]

They did read the comments on my last video and make changes based on what was asked/commented. It is refreshing for a company to listen to what the consumers really want in a radio

[@JAMRADIONYC]

I just got the LC90 and I love it. It definitely is one of the greatest radios made. It keeps the traditional radio feel, with a modern touch. There is absolutely nothing you cant listen to on this radio and it sounds great. Thank you for introducing me to this radio.

[@FarpointFarms]

Glad I could show it off to you! I agree that it's a game changer.

[@hcwilkinson]

They did update the firmware so that says a lot about the company, thanks for making a follow up video

[@hcwilkinson]

You need to test that SIM card feature for us, that has some potential for being a game changer and I have never seen that in a radio. And the hart button is something I like if it is a one button press to add whatever I am tuned to to a favorites list. And can you add podcasts? Can it provide a menu of podcast episodes to choose from if provided a link? Podcasts are to radio what KZbin is to tv.

[@FarpointFarms]

Thank you! I wanted to make one months ago, but everytime I started, and other update came with even more features.

[@FarpointFarms]

I know you can manually add in new stations, but I am not sure about podcasts. I also know that I sent them an e-mail to ask if they would add a station to the list and they did so fairly quick.

[@Archtops]

Thank you for the update! I just placed my order based on your review. 73

[@FarpointFarms]

You are going to really love it!

[@Trashcan_Repairman]

Awesome review, 1st & 2nd!! I need this radio in my life now!! Thanks alot!! Lol 😂 Good thing my birthday is around the corner. LOL 👍💯💯

[@FarpointFarms]

Sounds like an awesome birthday present for sure. Hope it's a good one

[@SigSoftNC]

I enjoyed both your reviews of this radio Eric and I agree with you, it is a great radio. They do have a mini version and I’ve heard rumblings of an LC100 rolling out soon. I would like to see the LC90 with a kickstand, separate bass & treble, keypad entry for search, an adjustable display for brightness so at night it doesn’t disturb my wife’s sleep, better coordination on the display especially when you switch bands and tune with the knob, and yeah better AM but like you that’s why I like the Internet side to get those stations on the stream. I have a sim in mine and it works great! And I would love to have a tabletop version of this radio. Keep up the good reviews NC!

[@FarpointFarms]

I have seen the mini version but don't own one. When I listen in bed, my wife just turns over so the light does not bother her. She has not complained yet, so that is a good thing.

[@jesseayala7869]

Thank you for the review! I’m seriously considering buying one myself.

[@FarpointFarms]

Glad I could help!

[@spresc2180]

A “birdie” is an internally generated frequency within the circuitry that will present itself as you manualy tune or use the search function, by showing up as a strong yet quiet signal at various places along the frequency range, with no data on that frequency. Some radio’s and particularly scanners can have many, a few or none. Try a KZbin search on what is a radio birdie.

[@FarpointFarms]

Interesting. Either my two units didn't have the issue, or it was so minor that it never bothered me while listening. Whatever the case, apparently they cured the issue with the 4.5 software update. Makes me wonder what other radios I own that have this issue. I am fairly deaf (80% one ear, 60% in the other) so perhaps that is why I don't notice it?

[@mark_osborne]

Fantastic ! Esp the fact you can install a sim card and connect it to a cell tower - just amazing

[@FarpointFarms]

They really thought of everything with this radio!

[@JamesSythes]

Your reviews are excellent and very educational. Thank you. James from ontario canada

[@FarpointFarms]

Glad you like them! Reading comments like this makes it worth while

[@JamesSythes]

No worries. I've been watching your videos sometime now. Don't listen to any of the negative reviews. You are excellent at what you do. I watch your videos more than any other site.

[@kurttuttle1817]

Nice little radio that does about everything.

[@FarpointFarms]

Yes it does! A little something for everyone

[@user-tk5zg6xv3j]

Those types of radios are quality. I had one handed down to me and passed it on to my son.

[@hcwilkinson]

😂

[@FarpointFarms]

Cool!

[@ThePacratz]

Ok, here's my opinion. I have this radio and also a GE super radio and now I have all my bases covered. And to all the haters out there, BITE ME!!!! Have a good day.

[@martinryan5069]

Present yourself to be bitting

[@FarpointFarms]

I like your opinion, thanks for sharing it

[@benwille6680]

Very admirable that they listened to you and made improvements.

[@FarpointFarms]

They did not listen to me, they listened to everyone that made the comments on what they wanted.

[@johnkelley6278]

Thanks for your honest reviews If you say an item is below standard (junk ) it mostly likely is, if your review is positive the item is more than likely good. Today's radio you showed looks great! Thanks!

[@FarpointFarms]

Thank you- there are so many items that I never make into a video because they are just garbage. I think this radio is perfect as it has a little something for everyone.

[@jackbarker2175]

I own the LC90 Mini, been waiting for these updates to come out for it!

[@FarpointFarms]

Does it have different software?

[@jackbarker2175]

@@FarpointFarms the choyong KZbin channel. On the video about the update of ssb, they put a disclaimer that you cannot download this update for the mini, and that it has its own personal update coming in the near future for it

[@whitetiger8652]

Makes perfect sense. Appreciate the video.

[@FarpointFarms]

I think this thing will be around for a while!

[@WorldMoneyWins]

SSB is important for me if I want to use it during a disaster to see what hams are talking about. I dont use mine just to listen to them talk about their gear. LOL

[@FarpointFarms]

Good use! I too like to listen to Hams chat, but in an emergency, I've found CB to be the better option as all issues tend to be local issues in an emergency....So far.

[@Woodworker-gi9wb]

I bought one. If I have any complaints, it’s not with the radio, it’s the instruction manual. Haven’t downloaded the updates yet. But I’m anxious to get them. Great radio. I love listening to “Old-time Radio” classics.

[@FarpointFarms]

I am a fan of 40s music (big band) there is a station out of england that is in the list that plays it 24/7 with some great DJs as well.

[@spresc2180]

Eric, Choyong just posted a 19 second short video on thier upcoming radio. A walnut wood table radio that appears to be FM, Shortwave and BT, based on knob labeling (could be better) and tuning dial display.

[@FarpointFarms]

I saw that radio, it looks beautiful- nice retro look

[@dxace1]

We're heading toward another firmware update in coming weeks, which will be aimed at addressing some of the shortcomings with the Internet section. As for SSB, it remains less than satisfactory because the radio was not built for that feature from the ground up and is firmware implemented.

[@FarpointFarms]

I still find it incredible that they used software updates to give the radio full coverage and then added SSB as a perk. Makes me wonder what's in there running everything!

[@kevinpatrickmacnutt]

I have one and love it. I use it mostly for internet radio, however I have used it for terrestrial radio as well. FM is excellent, SW is decent with the internal antenna, great with an external antenna. AM is pretty terrible, but I can get most of those on the internet part of the radio. Otherwise for terrestrial radio that is what my Tecsun PL-990 is for.

[@FarpointFarms]

Thanks for sharing your opinion of it. It is good to hear what other people think about it

[@steveburnham5073]

I remember watching the Official SWL KZbin channel about this radio and as he went through the reviewing of this radio, he found birdies with it.

[@n1kkri]

Yes, and if you are a shortwave listener it would be a problem interfering with stations you want to listen too. Glad they fixed the problem with firmware. It was mentioned the internet/WiFi of the radio was causing the problem and by turning off the WiFi/internet automatically when listening to shortwave the problem was gone.

[@FarpointFarms]

I was made aware of that channel from a subscriber of mine that let me know he was speaking "poorly" of me. I was, and am pretty shocked by it. I watched the video in question and even left a comment about it, but I guess he wasn't raised the way I was.

[@n1kkri]

@@FarpointFarms I am surprised he is pretty passive and mostly talks from a technical point of review. As someone who is also technical and has been technical many more years then him, he is pretty much spot on from his reviews.

[@dwaynesturge5556]

@FarpointFarms A BIRDIE is a signal that’s generated inside the radio and mixes with actual frequencies you are trying to listen to - sounds like two stations transmitting on top of each other and makes an annoying whistle blocking the program you are trying to listen to

[@FarpointFarms]

Thanks for the info!

[@dwaynesturge5556]

@@FarpointFarms one other point I left out the radio doesn’t put out this interference on every frequency but just some that aren’t filtered out like current local oscillator mixed with particular intermediate frequencies and that special combination makes the birdie irregular and annoying another example a cheaper scanner will also have this quirk so I suppose depending on use case you may encounter depending on the design of the receiver and the proper shielding characteristics. There maybe a Wikipedia article on birdies and the math used to determine where and when a birdie will show up. I’m glad I could give you a starting point into the quirks of radios designed for our information and entertainment consumption. Have a good day

[@JustinPartridg-k5j]

That's amazing I like shortwave radios I used to have one a long time ago it was a zenith radio add to citizen band radio on it had the police band on it too and my local stations at my place and fire I used to pick up on it and it had a moving meter like a CB radio that thing was sweet I wish I still had it😊 I don't hate on nobody on my channel I had somebody shut my channel cuz they didn't like what I was didn't like my videos they're boring I'm going to make it much better too that's one thing I'm going to pick people on my channel who wants to watch my channel appreciate all what you do and there's nothing wrong with that radio I love old radios too you're the best thing about the old radios there was solid state and the best they put really good parts in them and they actually picked up unbelievable even the older ones there's a radio on Amazon I'd love to buy but it's way too expensive it's the one with that meter on the front of it it looks like a CB radio but it ain't but it can get to the citizen band radio you're a fantastic person and don't let that come bother you there's some really evil people in this world😊

[@audiophileman7047]

There is probably a school of radio enthusiasts who just love traditional radio and really don't consider internet radio to be real radio. I recently bought a radio and decided to go with the Tecsun PL-880. It's a terrific radio with very few shortcomings and does just what I want it to do. I did consider the LC90 in this decision, but I just didn't feel that the LC90 is a solid performer on the traditional radio end for my needs. Not having a radio stand and a logical location for the radio jacks is also a deal killer. I wanted a radio that would be very useful during times of emergency by being independent of the internet and cell towers. Though SSB is popular with ham operators, there is more on SSB than just hams. You can also pull in aircraft and air traffic control (ATC), ships at sea, military, spy network, clandestine, and pirate transmissions. Occasionally some shortwave broadcast stations use SSB as well. The LC90 is a nice beginning for an integrated radio. It can only get better and may someday be a radio I want to own. I would also like to see a base station radio in the future. For now it may be better to own two radios, a solid internet radio and a solid traditional radio until a better integrated radio is made.

[@FarpointFarms]

They are really missing the boat on Internet Radio. It's the KZbin of radio. Anyone can broadcast for free and reach a worldwide audience. I've been "On the Air" since late 1999 and still enjoy it to this day. So many channels out there and those don't include all the smaller mom and pop AM stations scattered around the USA that I would never be able to hear over the air. It's what sold me on this radio and it's why I continue to feel it's the best radio I've reviewed.

[@WorldMoneyWins]

I would love if Choyong sent me a LC90 to review. Looks like the best one on the market. I use a Tecsun PL660 and I have NEVER wanted an upgrade until the LC90 came out. ( I doubt they would ever send me one since I do gold and silver content)

[@FarpointFarms]

I've been making videos on this channel since late 2014. Offers to do reviews came in nearly 700 videos in, and then nearly all of them were trash that I refused to film. These past 15 months it really has finally picked up. Good offers and great products. We still turn down 90% of it, but there are a lot of items that we now own that I never could have afforded without these offers.

[@mrmetaldetectorist]

Great video🎉 That radio cost more than my CB. It is a great little radio though.

[@FarpointFarms]

Thank you-

[@ronleblanc9832]

i never realized how many am stations there was at night i have a small tecson pl-368 really portable short wave day time 2 or 3 am stations in nova scotia there is only 1 left other end of novs scotia i Google there are only about 100 in Canada left...one night around mid night i caught over 80. 2 montreal and rest were main. new york rest were u.s. stations a d now often go through the am band at night to see how many i can receive ...radio comes with a small directional ferit rod horizontal antenna which is very directional ....i do have a satalite 800 grundig in my shed but its huge this tecsun is the size of a tv remote and comes with a nice case can put it on a belt or slide in a pocket rechargeable battery charges on a cell phone charger also have a long wire with alligator clip to attatch to the telescopic antenna fun hobby

[@FarpointFarms]

Pretty cool isn't it? Those night time far away stations really are a fun hobby to search for.

[@spresc2180]

Go to Choyong’s KZbin channel and you will see that 2 weeks ago they put a vid on there showing off thier new A8W mini internet radio and with FM coverage. No AM radio apparently.

[@FarpointFarms]

Just checked it out! Very cool!!

[@brucekempf4648]

Great video- Looks like a really cool radio. Can you record from the radio to the TF card? I see Radioddity has a mini version of this radio. Have you tried that one yet? Does FM have RDS so you can see station and song info?

[@FarpointFarms]

No on the RDS, and yes on the recording to SD card right from the radio.

[@uniquenamegoeshere2263]

There are a bunch of reviews on this radio. It has become a really popular radio. I have not bought one yet.

[@FarpointFarms]

It really has become very popular

[@rca7591a]

They can negatively comment only if they can roll their own radio... Or fix or improve them.

[@FarpointFarms]

People just complain to hear themselves talk. The world is full of troll who are happiest when they put down others. I try to let them be- the ones who get to bad, I will ban from commenting, epically when they start putting down others.

[@rca7591a]

Seems like an impressive example of a general coverage receiver. I think I must have one. However, I can't resist the fun of poking the trolls of a certain age... Apologies for it being on your KZbin contribution. I'll try to make it short. You may not be a man if... You have not braved the dangers of the plate B+ Or tasted or felt the fire of the plate B+ Or worked in a cabinet with a defeated power interlock, in the presence of the live plate B+ Or tinkered with your grandparents vacuum tube table radio. All with respect to the humble radio. 😎😎🙏🙏

[@augurkur]

There are only two things that come to mind that would be awesome. FM narrow on 25-30 MHz would be useful. A simple walkie talkie app like Zello using the mic and a push to talk button. Allow the walkie talkie to interrupt the current radio or internet stream just long enough to send or receive a message.

[@augurkur]

Zello because a lot of Ham Radio remote controllers use Zello. So, ya see, with Zello app they could be anywhere in the world listening on shortwave but then transmitting back to the world from their home radio station.

[@FarpointFarms]

Interesting Idea!

[@MadHatter1707]

Don’t have to rely on a sim card for FM radio if you own a smartphone you can use as a hotspot.

[@FarpointFarms]

I never thought of that, but you are correct!

[@christophersmith1155]

ssb is a must. thx

[@FarpointFarms]

Its got it now!

[@FosterFarmsOk]

listen to hams is like sitting next to a table of old guys at the donut shop.

[@FarpointFarms]

I was not going to go there, but.........

[@Pahrump]

@FosterFarmsOk = Sad Ham

[@mrmetaldetectorist]

@@FarpointFarms lol

[@brucekempf4648]

If your up to taking out a few screws, I would love to see a video on the insides and speaker.

[@FarpointFarms]

Hmm. I'm not sure I want to mess with it. It wasn't cheap!

[@WorldMoneyWins]

What camcorder are you using? Good image quality on the tabletop. I want to upgrade mine. :-)

[@FarpointFarms]

That is the Sony AX53 4K camcorder. Not cheap, but I made the call to upgrade to a 4K setup a few years back to be somewhat future proof. So far so good!

[@rickreese5794]

Let’s Roll, 😊

[@FarpointFarms]

Sounds like a great plan

[@regor2009]

How do you set up a station to be a favorite and then how do you re-call a favorite? I push the red heart on a station, but then I don't know if it's really saved or how to call it up.

[@FarpointFarms]

It's a little tricky. You have to be in the mode you want to listen too (SW,AM,IR) then press the heart button and it will give you the option of looking at those stations.

[@baneverything5580]

Can you please tell me what floating charge setting to use on a 12v LiFeP04 battery with that OAE MPPT charge controller like you have? Is it 13.50 or 13.80 or 14.60 or what? I chose the lithium ion as battery type, 12v. Now what? I`ve been trying to figure this out since 2022!

[@FarpointFarms]

I sent you an email!

[@JAMRADIONYC]

I do have one issue with playing certain internet stations. Some stations load quick and show no loading time, and begin to play, and every 10 seconds it buffers. It seems to be with certain stations. One station that does it is WAXQ 104.3 in New York. I wonder if it’s doing that with anyone else’s. I appreciate any input. I did update to the latest 4.5 firmware.

[@FarpointFarms]

As someone who broadcasts on ShoutCast. I can tell you that issue is from the source. The stations that have longer load times and buffering are usually suffering from one of two things. 1st is too high a bit rate. If they try to send out CD quality sound to many listeners it bogs down the connection. 2nd. Too low of a internet connection. The faster the connection speed they have, the faster they can get a station sent to your device. For my tiny station the solution was to lower the bit rate to a very low setting and I changed it to mono. Now? No more buffering and almost instant connection. You can reach out to the stations that are buffering and see if they are aware of the issue.

[@Koan_Om]

What are the "couple of great independent AM stations" ?

[@FarpointFarms]

Smaller 1000 to 5000 watt local stations with little to no network shows. It's cool to listen to real music, real local news, and real local shows. Daytime is best for these as a lot do tend to run music only at night.

[@nickmolonlabe5780]

Hi Eric I am interested in buying this radio. I have one question , do you think I would like this radio better than my Tecsun PL-880 which i really enjoy. Short Wave guy Nick.

[@FarpointFarms]

For the integrated Internet radio alone, yes. While I miss sensitive AM reception as I do like to listen to the clear channels at night, the ability to listen to smaller mom and pop AM stations from every state in the union more than makes up for it.

[@nickmolonlabe5780]

@@FarpointFarms Sounds good to me. Thanks

[@MattinLapland]

I don’t think hate is the right word, it’s easy to bang about haters these days and this seems to have got a little personal for you. Since the old days of Sony and others being involved with portable radios the market has been quiet for decades. China has awoken to the wants of people for radios today so we are going through a phase of almost reinventing the portable world -band receiver again with new technology. Unfortunately the fundamental point is still radio reception so of course consumers want better and cheaply made radios with birdies and other issues should be pointed out so that the manufacturer can do better. We’ve had great radios in the past so there has been a benchmark set so why do we have to accept less? Manufacturers need to try harder to make better products and we should not accept ‘it will do”. Of course there needs to be a cheaper-end product as consumers can’t always pay the price. Myself I have the Qodosen SR-286 BUT it will never be a replacement for my JRC NRD-535DG, the Qodosen is what it is a little portable radio not in the same league as a professional receiver.

[@FarpointFarms]

There are were a lot of comments that are no longer visible and one user that is no longer visible that were downright hateful. Comments like "Your not qualified to review radios" and "You don't know anything about radios". These are garbage and were deleted as they are totally uncalled for. I make videos for people interested in products. If they are not, I assume they were raised well enough to know that they should just move on, but some apparently were not.

[@richmonroe203]

I had the first one and I liked it, but felt it was a little complicated and instructions were poor. Also their website needed a lot of work and it was a pain to request different podcasts to add. Sent it back. Dont know if the upgrade addressed these issues. Thanks.

[@FarpointFarms]

The updates did address some of the complaints- They are still working on more updates as needed. The company is really listening to what people were asking about

[@richmonroe203]

@FarpointFarms But I agree with you that as a all in one radio, it's hard to beat.

[@mcvideo8686]

Are you sure that's a sim card lot and not a micro sd slot for playing mp3 files or recording?

[@FarpointFarms]

Yes, it has both a sim card slot and a micro SD card.

[@campingwithchrism3669]

hi does it cover air bands im in the uk. thanks

[@FarpointFarms]

I don't believe it does

[@JustinPartridg-k5j]

I had to make my new videos on my new page my coax comes in for my one element mako I'm sending it out Wednesday so hopefully I get it Friday of The Weeknd I'll let you know that'd be much more and I described your page p I'm going to put your page in all of them on my KZbin do you have anybody to check out your site you do a fantastic job😊

[@user-mv1zy8bv8i]

I can’t understand why anyone would want a shortwave receiver or transceiver without sideband.

[@FarpointFarms]

For non-ham users (99.7% of users) SSB is not a feature they want or need. No commercial shortwave stations broadcast on sideband, nor do AM for FM stations. That said, for the .3% of us that complained, Choyong added full band coverage and SSB modes.

[@user-mv1zy8bv8i]

@@FarpointFarms I really love my sideband so I can listen to the hurricane net , those hams on 10 meters and freebanders north of 11 meters from my home in Michigan. Radio is a hobby of discovery and I don’t like being on the outside looking in.

[@dukesamouce5463]

Can I get my radio updated with the new software?

[@FarpointFarms]

Yes! The update is available on their website. You download it and install it via the USB charging cable.

[@dukesamouce5463]

@@FarpointFarms Looks like you can also do it via WiFi. There is a video on the amazon link to the new radio.

[@MarioMania05]

I love to buy one & Review it, But money is very tight with me

[@FarpointFarms]

And these are NOT cheap. It was painful to buy the second one for sure so I get it.

[@WorldMoneyWins]

The voice search on my android phone sounds about the same as the LC90. 🤣

[@FarpointFarms]

Hmmmm. Wonder if they use the same or similar software?

[@gary-kr7dm]

How can you slag off a radio when you don’t even have one 😂

[@FarpointFarms]

I know, but the internet is full of people who love to

[@jimbajacamper2435]

Ya, no ssb, not gonna happen , sadly,, (oops, looks like I snoozed the good part 😅) very good ssb important 👍, Update !! After further research, this could be my next Short Wave Radio ! Just not real happy with the location of the External Antenna Plug, looks in the way of the tuning knob ? ,

[@FarpointFarms]

It DOES have SSB now.

[@jimbajacamper2435]

@@FarpointFarms O, I watched, but got distracted on that part, oops haha ,

[@Altoid777]

No Air Band...

[@FarpointFarms]

I don't think so. Here in the states there are no Air band stations still broadcasting.

[@TouYubeTom]

radio seems broken cause its not playing

[@FarpointFarms]

You can watch my original video if you want to see it playing

[@martinryan5069]

There is a lot more people who reviewed this radio who knows a lot more about radio's who pointed out the shortcomings and there right

[@FarpointFarms]

I've heard some of those so called experts. I'll stick with what I've said before and now about this radio.

[@Aviation.Safety.]

👎 👎

[@FarpointFarms]

Sorry that you feel like this was worth 2 thumbs down...

[@ronaldzuccala-pv8tu]

FYI THEY DO HAVE A MINI VERSION IN A NEW RADIO THAT THEY RECENTLY CAME OUT WITH. CHECK IT OUT. Ron z. Wa3090swl.

[@FarpointFarms]

Thanks for sharing that Ron

[@ronaldzuccala-pv8tu]

Well good for you. I own 140 receiver and i like the radio. I.enjoy your enthusiasm. Keep doing what your doing.RONZ. WA3090SWL.

[@FarpointFarms]

Thank you for the kind words