The BEST Rates for Cinematic Flying - DJI AVATA2

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These are the BEST rates on the AVATA 2 for the FPV 3 radio in manual mode to get the most responsive, most precise, and most cinematic flying drone.
I'm also giving you all the knowledge you need to fine-tune the rates and find what works best for you!
These are the Best rates that work for me, and they might not be to your liking, but try them out and see how you feel.
Be aware that increasing the Yaw rate will make the drone more likely to tumble so you need to fly appropriately. For inexperienced pilots, please leave the max yaw rate as stock until you are confident in FPV manual mode.
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[@NSWfpv]

Bro, you're the best! THANKS!

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Thanks bro!

[@Blueskyver]

Stunning explanation of the rate settings, Justin. Thank you!

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Thank you! You're more than welcome! 😃

[@juanruiz-eg7si]

Muchas gracias Justin lo probaremos , alguna configuración para aprender si que sea muy agresivo e ir subiendo paulatinamente, gracias y un saludo desde España👍💪

[@markus4979]

exceptionally well explained and demonstrated (making more technical/difficult topics understand easily), way to go!

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Thank you very much! That's the aim of what I'm trying to do. Trying to break things down so that they are easy to understand even if they are rather complex principles. If I can help people have a better experience and have a better understanding of how things actually work, then I find they're better equipped to move forward. Thanks again for the kind words! 😃

[@protmanprotman]

Thx for being precise with the speedy good energy so much different from all those boring tuto on the web.

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

You're more than welcome! I would get bored myself if I was just talking like a robot 😅 I prefer to just bring refreshing energy and engaging, easy to understand information. Glad to see it's coming across that way 😃

[@erickbueza]

I'm gonna be receiving this control today, nice to stumble upon your video. Very well explained. Thank you.

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

That's exciting! Hopefully, these rates will give you something else to try when flying manual mode in the future. Have you flown manual before? 😃

[@erickbueza]

@@JustinBainbridgeYT I will definitely show it to you Justin. I was flying fpv only in simulator years back so I don't know my reflexes now that's why this will be exciting. Just got the Avata 2 last week.

[@marklavery4838]

Hi Justin. I am really enjoying all the content that you are sharing about the avata 2. The way you explain all content is of a very high professional quality. I have had my avata 2 1 month now and want to try manual. Please advise as to what simulator I could use with either an iPad Pro or iPhone. At present I don’t have access to a computer. Thanks again for all the great. Ideas. Kind regards mark

[@AngSundoHorrorStories]

Hi Justin, nice and very informative tutorial, question: When using Manual mode, did you tighten your remote sticks to have the feel of full manual? I keep on looking at your remote but the tension spring is (I think) not adjusted. Am I right?

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Hey! Yes, you have to release the tension spring for flying in manual mode. Otherwise, controlling the throttle will be extremely difficult as the drone only needs around 30% throttle to hover. My spring has been adjusted. I wouldn't reccomend trying to fly manual with the spring active. You'd be fighting the stick spring the whole time and it'll make things much more difficult 😃

[@kevinkrieg]

Thank you! I really like your videos! I've finally bought the Avata 2 and I'm really looking forward to it. I started with the DJI FPV back then. Greetings from Germany!

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

You're welcome! I'm glad you like the videos! Ah nice, the FPV was a pretty cool drone, you'll enjoy the Avata 2!

[@azad-11]

I get my fpv 3 controller in the next few days. I have the avata 2 but haven't used it yet. Will activate everything once I get the controller delivered. I'll do some sim practice with these settings. Thanks Justin. 👍

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Hey! That's awesome, can't wait for you to try out the Avata 2. It's so much fun. I was really throwing it around today and was very impressed how it held up! Yep sim practice for manual is a must, but you'll be fine 👌

[@azad-11]

@@JustinBainbridgeYT Cheers mate.

[@Marcochonaille]

You desserved a🥇 than you for all infos. I subscribed 👊🏻

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Thank you! Welcome to the community! 😃

[@marklavery4838]

Hi Justin. I am really enjoying the content that you are sharing about the avata 2. The way you explain all content is very professional. I have had my avata 2 1 month now and want to try manual. Please advise as to what simulator I could use with either an iPad Pro or iPhone. At present I don’t have access to a computer. Thanks again for all the great. Ideas. Kind regards mark

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Hi Mark, unfortunately there isn't really a simulator you can use on the iPad or iPhone with an actual radio connected. Trying to use the touch screen is 10x harder than flying with the radio and in my opinion. But if it's all you've got then you could try it and see how you find it. I wouldn't be able to reccomend a specific app as I havent tried any in a long time unfortunately. Sorry I couldn't have been more helpful.

[@JaredHoyman]

Excellent info. My controller ships next week. Meanwhile I’m still impressed what I can do with the motion controller.

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Thank you! Very exciting! Me too, you can do much with the MC it's definietly staying in my bag that's for sure. Have you flown manual in FPV before?

[@JaredHoyman]

@@JustinBainbridgeYTnever have done manual…..yet. Thought I would get used to the fpv controller 3 in standard and sport and then start working on a simulator before I try manual. Is there a simulator you suggest and or techniques I should work on?

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

@@JaredHoyman Okay cool, Manul is a pretty different kettle of fish but you've got this. Ssome good things to practice in the sim would be start of just taking off and then trying to move forwards slowly and then slowing down again. This will give you a feel for how to balance the throttle when moving forwards and braking, try moving forwards at a different range of speeds to get more comfortable. Then work in some turns, you will need to co-ordinate your roll and yaw inputs, so move both in the same direction to maintain a smooth turn, practice doing a square pattern so fly forwards, turn fly forwards turn, and practice this in both directions. Then try some figure 8's to learn the transition from left to right. This will get you moving in the right direction. Also just fly around and have a play with the quad and see what happens, this'll teach you a lot. I do have a video on how to fly cinematic FPV with some of these things in it and a free course with some more structured sessions to try. It's aimed at people with already a basic understanding of FPV using a freestyle drone but you could watch it ahead of time and you might find some things useful. Especially the flying drills section etc. Hope this helps! 😃

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

@@JaredHoyman I just realised i forgot to include the link to that video. Here it is -kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpa2YmephaqFq9Usi=HQnlvbWAAFdx8qcK

[@LowryDroneography-Steve]

Your locations are killer, I’m constantly on weather standby for content in the UK right now.. and sometimes just doing it anyway 😅

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Haha got some really nice spots coming up. We haven't seen anything yet. Yeah that's one of the reasons I chose to be here at this time of the year. Good weather so I can create basically every day. Got a lot to get done in the next couple months. Hopefully the weather improved over there soon! 🤞

[@LowryDroneography-Steve]

@@JustinBainbridgeYT Awesome, will keep an eye out for the next ones! Good shout. Never been over there. Furthest I’ve been so far is Japan (pre drone fascination 😩) but everywhere else was mostly Europe. Think I’ll be going for some nice drives to shoot stuff when it perks up!

[@jordanvisions]

Really well explained. Good Job... Wish you Lots of followers.... Im in 👍🏼

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Thank you dude! Glad you we're able to take it all in. I just want to help people out, growing allows me to help more people. I do hope to hit 10K soon though, that would be a nice achievement. Thanks for commenting and being part of the community! 😃

[@deckyrizkiadi]

Nice information and easily understand. I will try on my controller. Thanks mate

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Thanks mate! You're more than welcome. Hopefully you like my suggested rates, and if not, then at least you know how to get them dialled in!

[@bulots]

thank you, i will test that tomorrow and credit you in next video héhé

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

You're welcome! Good luck! 😃

[@bulots]

@@JustinBainbridgeYT kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGTbdqaCaZxsm5o ( i will translate tonight with english subtitles )

[@yussiez5977]

Thank you as always ✌🏽🫶🏽

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

You're welcome !🤙

[@kikoacompanado2886]

Hey man I love your videos and they are indeed helpful, I just started flying in full acro after hours and hours on sim flight😂. One request please, can you share the best rate and expo if I have approximately 60g of accesories? Thanks man!

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Hey man. That's awesome, How are you enjoying flying in full acro? For that I'd just reccomend watching my rates video, Accesory weight should have too much of an impact to be honest, especially at just 60 grams. You might find you have more areodynamic effects because of the accesories than any rate adjustments. For example on my 5 inch drone, I fly the same rates whether thats in bare trim with no go pro, or if I've got a large battery and an action cam on making it 300g heavier. Rates are measured by rotation speed so lightweight accesories shouldn't have much of a impact on rates. It's the PID tune that might struggle with extra weight. Short answer, find rates that you like and you'll be good wheter you have accesories or not. Hope this helps.

[@kikoacompanado2886]

@@JustinBainbridgeYT awesome! Will definitely try this. Thanks again man! 🫰🫰

[@nicktsonis7102]

Great videos and I tried your rates and they feel good! at some point you mention that by having to move your yaw stick more gets you unwanted throttle and this is correct. But this goes both ways so when you move your throttle you get some unwanted yaw in there and by changing the sensitivity of the yaw as you said you get more yaw input that in the default position. Don't you think that because the throttle is the most common input that fluctuates, and also is the input that moves to the extremes most often, it would be a better idea to keep a lower sensitivity in yaw? I am steal trying to figure out my rates so I am a bit confused about the yaw. Thank you

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Thank you! I'm glad you think they feel good. Yes, you're also right with the throttle fluctuation giving unwanted yaw input. This is something I focused on during learning to fly manual so that I could move the throttle through the full range without any yaw input. It takes a little time, but the muscle memory will come. It's easier to do on radios where you can adjust the spring tension on the yaw as you can make it stiffer to move, but it's still something I believe everyone should practice. Personally, I think it's better to learn to have good stick control rather than have looser rates to account for bad inputs. During cinematic flying, you're not really yanking the throttle hard from top to bottom anyway, and I think it's much easier to get unwanted throttle when yawing in this situation rather than the other way around. Just fly with these rates for a while and then lower the yaw rates and see what you think, but if something feels better straight away, then it's a good sign

[@maker01]

Hi Justin, I’m fighting with myself between using Normal and Sport mode on remote controller 3 and Manual mode. I’m used to flying with this first setting but I could not get smooth result during turning etc. Simple question for you: am I right you can’t have this level of stability and smoothness of video you have without flying in MANUAL mode?

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Hey, It's very possible to have nice smooth footage when using normal and sport mode. However, in my opinion, manual mode gives you the most flexibility and will result in very smooth footage once you are compitent flying in this mode. A lot of manoeuvers are just not possible when using normal/sport mode, but it does come in handy for certain shots. 😃

[@firlaketube]

Love your vids. You have been putting out some great content for the community. I disagree with your recommendation on rates in this video. Rates are very unique to each individuals needs, style and experience level. I think most experienced fpv acro pilots will already know how to tweak rates to suit their needs. So presumably this video is primarily for pilots that are newer and still learning their manual mode skills. I think for someone still learning a max rate of 360-400 ( or even less) and a center sensitivity of 100 or less would be less twitchy and provide a smoother more cinematic end result for the newby.

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Hey! Thank you! That's okay, it's fine to not agree with the rates I suggest. This is also why I explain what each setting does and how to change them for yourself. I am aware that rates are individual, and I have some disclaimers in the video and also in the PDF because of this. My rates actually reduce the centre sensitivity from stock on the roll and the pitch axis because of this very reason. I felt they were to twitchy for cinematic flying it's just that yaw that I increased. At the least, I wanted to offer another option to people who didn't like the stock settings and a different starting point to try. Thanks for your comment and hopefully, it will help out some people 😃

[@MrDan1943]

I have a question about my DJI mini pro 4. My video and pics seem to be captured on the SD card on the drone. How do you control the internal storage on the drone and on the controller. Actually I had a problem yesterday when I lost communication with my drone. I moved around and was able to restore communication and I hit RTH immediately. You might want to do a video about communication problems and which are the best settings to handle such a problem. Love your videos!!!!

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Hi there! Sure thing, To change the storage location on the Mini 4 pro just click the 3 dots in the top right to open the settings, then go to camera, and scroll down till you see the storage section. Then just click on either SD card or Internal storage to select where the files are stored. Anything captured by the drone will be saved to one of those locations. You can't have the full resolution footage from the drone stored to the radio during capture. There isn't enough bandwith to transmit this to the radio. You do however get a lower quality cache file saved to the radio but for the original file you need to download these from the drone's SD card or it's internal storage.

[@chriscapune7873]

Interesting rates settings 👍🐾🐈‍⬛👍🍻

[@betaompay38]

Bro I have a rate value that I use in the simulator, quite comfortable and happy with that value in the simulator using a 3.5 inch drone, but I haven't tried it on a real flight with Avata 2, can you give me any advice regarding this rate value 220 - 650 - 0.50, the rate value is set for all three rolls, pitch and yaw.

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

If it feels comfortable in the sim then try it in real life too. It will feel slightly different as it never feels exactly like the sim but give it a try then adjust it if needed 😃

[@betaompay38]

@@JustinBainbridgeYT what do you think about the values, I'm just worried

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

@@betaompay38 They seem okay, a little high on the centre sensitivity for cinematic flying but some people like it to be more sensitive than others. Max rates are similar to mine and expo is also down to personal feel. If you have got on well with these rates then try them on the Avata 2. You could try those and also try mine and see if you prefer one to the other or maybe you'll want something in between? Just have a try and see how you go. You'll still be able to fly it either way 😃

[@betaompay38]

@@JustinBainbridgeYT thankyou so much Bro ♥️

[@Austin-yz6rm]

Hey Justin, does it matter which controller we use when applying these rates?

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Hey, if you're meaning fpv2 or fpv3 radio, it shouldn't matter. The rates are related to the drones response to input. Both controllers are very similar, so there won't be much difference in feel between them, so the rates should work on both. 😃

[@arunr5529]

Hi Justin. I've been using these rates for a few weeks and they seem to work ok for me! That said, I have seen some people say the reduced yaw sensitivity out of the box is to help mitigate the issue of applying yaw accidentally while also applying throttle and throwing your drone off course. That isn't a bad argument, any thoughts?

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Hey! I'm glad you're enjoying the rates! I think out of the box, the yaw is way too lazy in my opinion and can cause the other issue of unwanted throttle input when you have to move the yaw stick so far. I think that personally, it's better to practice throttle blipping without introducing yaw as well as it's good practice for being a better pilot. I also don't find myself making massive throttle adjustments on the A2 and don't tend to get any unwanted yaw input. I've practised a fair bit though and have experinec with freestyle drones where youre really working the throttle, I can see the argument, but I think it's better to learn to control the sticks more precisely than to use rates to hide poor stick control 😃 hope this helps

[@arunr5529]

@@JustinBainbridgeYT Thanks Justin, I will stick with your rates for now as they seem to be fine for me as I learn. Can I make a request for some videos on acro flying? Specifically, flying through gaps smoothly (feels like there is a psychological component to this too, as I can do it on the sim well but often feel I make last minute adjustments as I'm flying through a gap in real life - trying to focus past the gap rather than on the gap itself helps), maybe doing split-s and orbits cinematically (for example I can do split-s well enough now but find doing the conventional roll/pitch doesn't work as well as pitch down, roll and then pitch up) - just a suggestion as I love your content! Orbits - doing them well enough in the sim but still finding them hard in real life. But... I'm getting better with manual flying :D

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

@@arunr5529 I'll offer some advise here as videos on this are unlikely to happen in the near future. Flying through gaps you're already on the right track. Look through the gap rather than at the gap and you'll fly through them much smoother. small adjustment are always happening as you approach the gap so this is just something that will get a bit better with practice. Split S is an interesting one because to make it look real nice you need a good amount of forward momentum before you roll inverted. You will need to use counter yaw co-ordination to make the toll look nice and axial. so roll right and yaw to the left at the same time, the amount of yaw you need will depend on the camera angle. 0 will be no yaw needed, 45 degree will need equal and opposing yaw inputs. then just pull a nice smooth pitch up through the down leg, then pull out smoothly trying not to balloon to much at the bottom, again with this you need to just practice and get a feel for the throttle needed etc. Hope this helps 😃

[@arunr5529]

@@JustinBainbridgeYT i’m not sure I understand at the moment regarding counter yaw as I’ve never really done this and haven’t seen this. Explained anywhere my gimbal angle in the Sim and in real life at the moment is about 10°. I’ll try and figure out what you’re saying on the Sim. Any tips on orbits have no idea why but I’m flying them well on the simulator but not in real life at the moment thanks again mate

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

@arunr5529 try on the simulator setting your camera angle to something like 25° do and roll using pure roll input and you'll see its not a true roll, now do the same and add some opposing yaw with the roll and you'll see its much more axial, you need to get a feel for how much you need depending on the angle. For orbits they're easy in windless situations but any wind or turbulence will make them more challenging and you'll have to account for the wind and power/pitch/roll more into the wind and then less on the downwind leg. A tight orbit tends to be easier to do as it's less effected as you're traveling a shorter distance where you have to compensate more on a wider orbit

[@MilkyWayjay7]

Do these settings also apply for normal and sport mode? I haven’t tried manual mode yet !

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Hey! Nope these settings are only for manual mode. 😃

[@droneflyernick]

Excellent info, I agree, the rates out of the box are awful, but to each his own.

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Thank you! Yeah someone might like them but they just felt very weird to me. I'd rather give people the info they need to tune them themselves and then also give them another option to try as well. 😃

[@youssoundour7195]

Thanks ✌🏾🙏🏾

[@arunr5529]

Should we bother making these changes if we're newcomers to manual?

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

If you're new to manual, try the stock settings for a couple of battery packs, then maybe try these after and see which you prefer. It does come down to individual preference at the end of the day so you can fine tune to suit you. But my rates offer a more consistent control feeling as a starting point if you wanted to tune from there instead. I found the stock rates far too touchy and lacking a lot of yaw control but hey, that's what my fingers were telling me. I also like to make all my FPV drones feel similar because I'm often changing between different drones and these are the settings I have come to over my time flying. 😃

[@arunr5529]

@@JustinBainbridgeYT Thanks for the reply. Appreciate it. I'm a bit nervous about learning to fly manual but will spend 10 or 15 hours on a sim and hopefully it clicks, waterfall dives are too tempting to not learn!

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

@@arunr5529 You're welcome, You'll be fine, the sim is a nice safe place to learn. It will click at some point and you'll be flying no problem! For me it cliked pretty fast but I have been flying various kinds of RC since I was 10 so it was just a case of learning how this new kind of aircraft flies. A lot of people are learning a whole new input method with the controller etc so it takes a bit longer, but those waterfall dives are on the horizon! 😃

[@arunr5529]

@@JustinBainbridgeYT thanks mate. Let me know if you have any recommendations for a Sim.

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

@@arunr5529 I use velocidrone, but to be honest any decent sim will give you an understanding of the controls enough to transition into real world FPV. But Velicidrone and Lift off are the two big ones in my opinion.

[@Rob-BC]

Thanks.

[@saltedegg9058]

Thankss❤

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

You're welcome! 😃

[@Groovvee]

does it still have tumble ? :(

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

Yep, nowhere near as much as the original, but it will still tumble as will any drone like this if flown in a particular way. You just have to fly it like it's supposed to be flown and don't do anything too aggressive. Any whoop with big guards like this is going to suffer some aerodynamic drawbacks. But it's really not that bad, and you do have to push pretty hard to make it get out of shape. As far as I'm concerned, I think it flies excellent for what it is! 😃

[@Groovvee]

@@JustinBainbridgeYT thaanks for responce

[@gimbalair]

I wish they would give us arm/disarm via a switch in normal rather than the ridiculous stick movement inwards.

[@JustinBainbridgeYT]

I don't mind it to be honest, gives me the knowledge that i'm taking off in normal and not manual by double tapping the arm button, maybe there will be an option the future?

[@abricot68]

This thing does not come back home😁

[@user-we3ky3mf722]