...and breath. Great content at lightning speed :)
@ChaosMaker64 жыл бұрын
Wow, loved the information. I just started table top, and I'm focusing on DG. I'll be coming back to this video without a doubt. Thanks!
@Papanurgz7775 жыл бұрын
I am going to my first tournament and was thinking that my Death Gaurd would be obsolete in the meta so thank you for reinstilling confidence in my Death Gaurd.
@williamharvey70765 жыл бұрын
On the Chaos Lord with the Plaguebringer and Blades of Putrefaction, wouldn't it be 1 MW on 5's and 2 MWs on 6's? With Veterans of the Long Wary it would be 1 MW on 4's and 2 MWs on 5's and 6's? Or am I missing something. Plaguebringer is 6+ and Blades of Putrefaction is 7+. Also with the Index stuff going away it seems the Jump Pack version is a "no go" anymore.
@Drakio955 жыл бұрын
If DG could take Chaos Lord with Jump Pack in the Index: Chaos then you still can take him, and that's thing with all the units in such situation.
@derekfarrell89074 жыл бұрын
That was an insanely quick very informative video. Future reference though, slow down lol. Have fun with the explanations. And breath brother, breathe.
@marko2435 жыл бұрын
A few notes: 1) Deathshroud are popoularly combined with Morty, but after that 1st round they will never be in range with him again, since Mortarion needs to go up the board and annihilate in melee, while the Bodyguards are moving only 4'' with half the roll for advances. Deathshroud can be used to protect multiple valuable characters who will likely be close together, such as Blightspawn, Blightbringers, Tallymen or Putrifiers. All these don't have invul saves, so if your opponent manages to get a nasty shot with -3 AP on one of them, you can have the Bodyguard have his 50-50 chance with the invul and the Resilient roll if things go sour. 2) A 7-8 melee squad of Plague Marines with a Putrifier is massive. Disembarking on 2nd turn from a Rhino, you can use the Blight Bomabrdment stratagem to have all of them shoot their grenades. While being close to the Putrifier they have Str 4 AP 0 Dmg 2 blight grenades (reroll 1's to wound) that on 6's to wound they fo an additional mortal wound. Combining that with VotLW and the Arch Contaminator you get 7-8 D6 shots, hitting on 3's (rerolling 1's), having +1 to wound for 2 Dmg each (rerolling all failed wound rolls) and on top of that 5+ deal mortal wounds. 3) Blightlords get the benefit of +1 attacks each when they charge, so the flails now do 3D3 attacks on a charge, with each 6 to hit an Imperium unit genetaring another D3 attacks. 4) No Jump Pack on the DG Chaos Lord any more (Hulk saaaad....) 5) Blightspawn has 9'' range, S 2D6 and D6 attacks (Hulk smash!!!!) 6) Poxwalkers may be looked down by players, but their ability called Mindless makes them perfect objective holders. Along with the Cloud fo Flies Stratagem and the 5+ feel no pain, they can effectively defend an objective against all odds. Not bad for a 10 man 60pts unit with T3 and a 7+ save. 7 - Nurgle likes it!! ) Plague Burst Crawlers are amazing. Yes, they only hit on 4+ like all demon engines and need a Chaos Lord nearby at least to be efficient, but for 140 points they can pack quite a punch. The S8 mortar can hit without line of sight, the stubber can help to clear some screen units (I said "help to clear", not "clear on it's own") and their autohitting plaguespitters will make anyone who tries to charge this S7 T8 5++ and 5+ feel no pain hulk think again or be very sorry (at top bracket the spitters are S7 rerolling 1's to wound). This thing can hit harder than a truck and will most likely hold on to whatever objective it puts it's fat belly onto. If you are up against Knights, the entropy cannons are a quite decent way to cause pain along with the mortar and as long as the enemy focuses their firepower on those 16 wounds of the aforementioned hulk, the rest of your army can move closer to deal mortal wounds in more than enough ways.
@VarunBajaj-asaurus5 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot about Hateful Assault, which gives those blightlord terminators 6D3 attacks on the charge. Which should be virtually enough to kill most things, so you're unlikely to remain stuck in combat.
@interrogatorchaplain95524 жыл бұрын
@That Frosty Ape The hell do you mean getting them to S7, T8? The max you can buff them is S5, T6.
@acetraker19885 жыл бұрын
Mortarion costs too many points needs to go down in CA2019. Compared to Robo-G-man even after the nerf, more wounds is worse than 9 wounds and non targetable. Same with magnus thu he is better due to actually have decent psychic ability. 380-400 is where these models should be pointed at.
@fluffywarfield5 жыл бұрын
That's the power of Nurgle engineering.
@atlas65384 жыл бұрын
This was very informative and help me understand the army so much
@hawkeyefigure5 жыл бұрын
Your thumbnail misspelled deathguard!
@olivers60445 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks so much for making this! Great video much appreciated
@Michael-ib6ky5 жыл бұрын
Cant remember last time i saw morty tbh. Dude's scary- he's hobestly the main reason I've taken more screening
@michaelironrider94435 жыл бұрын
Hmm, pure DG only seems playable with FW dreads. They are missing good 24+firepower and need to come close, but are too slow. You can just outrange them. And they are lacking good strats. For me a weak codex on its own, with only a handful good units (PBC, BLT, PW...). Needs to get an update!
@Fimbul_Crafts5 жыл бұрын
Big Agreement here. One of my most beloved factions though. Hopefully it will get updated soon.
@smintili5 жыл бұрын
Tournament circuit would disagree with you there.
@anungunrama93444 жыл бұрын
Yeah they should add more units to the roster. Im new so i dont even know if thats a thing they can do.
@marcarthur1005 жыл бұрын
how do u get two us chaos space marens cikic powers in deathgard???
@zachsmith89674 жыл бұрын
What would you suggest to help against Grey Knights?
@urbanslem5 жыл бұрын
Great vid man!
@Zydlik75 жыл бұрын
Against DG's 9" flamers could you deep strike 9.1" away and then don't have to deal with overwatch and still need a 9 on the charge?
@tippman98us5 жыл бұрын
Yep yep
@Beedji5 жыл бұрын
Yes... Clearly GW didn't think this through
@tippman98us5 жыл бұрын
But this also means DG flamers have to deep strike in 9.1" away and can't just DS in and autohit you in 1 turn
@songohan10755 жыл бұрын
Like this series hope we see Astra Militarum too
@zachlimb20945 жыл бұрын
Is getting the start collecting nurgle demons worth it?
@Derret1345 жыл бұрын
Foul Blightspawn weapon is D6 shots not 2D6.
@jaimeminaya46795 жыл бұрын
Would the scorpius be considered a good deathguard unit? I have an old rhino and was thinking about trying to convert it.
@kayray715 жыл бұрын
Thank you You guys keep making awesome Content
@LucTaltos5 жыл бұрын
Everything Nick says here is correct. I absolutely swear by the Deathshrouds (4 or 5 is about right to make it 1-2 turns, and only 55 points each), but let me mention a couple units that weren't covered here: The Index Daemon Prince and the Sorceror on Palanquin of Nurgle (their legal status as Legends tbd in the future). They're your only sources of Dark Hereticus powers if you play mono-faction, and highly desirable for that alone (again, pending their status as Legends). Their major drawback is in not having Disgustingly Resilient. I highly recommend using Warptime on the Deathshrouds the first turn so that they can continue to protect Mortarion while you eliminate the screen. Then continuing to use the power on Blightlords to get them moving and into combat where they belong.
@nordicwarking37075 жыл бұрын
Maybe I forgot, but you haven't mentioned the Biologous Putrifier, right? Put him in a Chaos Rhino with some Plague Marines, use the stratagem and kill the enemy with lots of blight grenades.
@Kingofsea75915 жыл бұрын
Wait for that that strat it says they have to be the closest visible unit but if they are not visible does that mean I dont have to shoot them
@marko2435 жыл бұрын
It means that if you have a unit utilize the stratagem and another one closer to the enemy but not visible to them, they won't be able to target either of them, one due to lack of visibility and the other because of the stratagem.
@Devianreal5 жыл бұрын
Now I wanna play DG. Just cuz of Big Boi
@Black_Blow_Fly5 жыл бұрын
Flails with DtFE so sick doves cry
@felixarbable5 жыл бұрын
Steve Turner 3d3 attacks now
@GreenEagle345 жыл бұрын
Death guard lords can't take a jet pack so does that mean that he would just be a regular chaos space marine lord if so your own army would kill him because he lacks the mark of nurgle?
@smintili5 жыл бұрын
What's your stance on Necrosius the Undying? I found him to be very powerful as an HQ, he's basically Typhus without Terminator armour. Plus since he has no pre-defined Warlord trait you could theoretically give him T6, which is also nice.
@raydonmoodie99825 жыл бұрын
So we’re do I get this chais lord with a jet pack and a power sword? And this demon prince with plates? Or how to I make them?
@marykfcjane5 жыл бұрын
For the Chaos Lord you will need to do your own conversion, the Raptor/Warp Talon box will be your best bet alongside whatever other bits you want to add. The Supperating Plate is an artifact that doesn't need to be represented on the model, but if I remember correctly the Resin Nurgle Deamon Prince kit from GW does have a bit of a chest plate. Hope this helps.
@raydonmoodie99825 жыл бұрын
Is a chaos lord even aloud a jet pack under death guard?
@Sicariusification5 жыл бұрын
@@raydonmoodie9982 No, sadly not.
@Black_Blow_Fly5 жыл бұрын
Blightlords rawk but combi plasma bruh come on feel the sickness
@neroscurse5 жыл бұрын
How do I take a chaos lord with jump pack for deathguard? Didn’t see anything in the codex.
@orkboy88805 жыл бұрын
You need to "transfer him" from the standard chaos space marine codex to the death guard and the points form there as well
@19mills875 жыл бұрын
How do i get warptime when i can only use powers from the contagion discipline? Ive been running the smash brothers so magnus can warptime morty, but damn 915pts for 2 models that die turn 1 against most lists is a bitch just to jump morty into combat turn 1(if the person im playing doesnt role that damn 6 lol)
@MexicanNinja0075 жыл бұрын
Drink some water and breath Breh....was done 30 seconds into this
@VAB0L05 жыл бұрын
Ahh, Deathshroud Terminators... the _other_ Shield Drone!
@LoftOfTheUniverse5 жыл бұрын
What's the best way to kill DG?
@CrushDepth195 жыл бұрын
pray
@grafic55085 жыл бұрын
Love the Videos & Nick for the incredible insight into my favorite army of all time! I do have a question or two, can my Malignant Plaguecaster take Warp Time & if not how do I bring it & not break the rules? Or am I simply shortsighted & have gone for the Death Guard powers while I could have chosen any out of the chaos powers? For my second question & this one might be difficult to answer, but how do I know if something "stacks" with one another? Side note: I did enjoy how you portrayed Mortarion as the "big bad baddie guy", I do believe that you were looking for the word Primarch! Keep up the incredible work!
@marko2435 жыл бұрын
The Plaguecaster can only choose spells from the Contagion discipline, so neither Warptime nor Precience can be picked up by him. You will need a Sorcerer of some sort in your army eligible to pick them.
@grafic55085 жыл бұрын
@@marko243 Thank you for the reply :) Will I need a sorcerer of Tzeentch in a different detachment to get the benefit of Warp time?
@marko2435 жыл бұрын
@@grafic5508 Yes, for example a Supreme Command Detachment could let you use Ahriman and 2 Exalted Sorcerers, giving you a tone of options is spells. Just pick those that would allow your DG units to be chosen as targets (e.g. not Weaver of Fate). I'd go with the more offensive spells like Death Hex and Doombolt, along with Precience and Warptime.
@eddietorres85605 жыл бұрын
is typhus competitive? with the right list?
@CrushDepth195 жыл бұрын
not unless you want to be that guy and take 120 poxwalkers
@urdrakule17555 жыл бұрын
very interesting although don't try to rush everything
@Grim678945 жыл бұрын
What should DG use as troops then? Plaguebearers?
@deremotive115 жыл бұрын
Plague Marines with Blightlaunchers; sit them in cover and on an objective. T5 on a +2 with a FnP of 5+ is a tricky thing for most armies to move, and Blightlaunchers are too powerful to ignore.
@effindave69095 жыл бұрын
@@deremotive11 I run 3 squads of seven (because lore, i'm not a power gamer) 1 squad with 3 plasma (one sarge, two marines) and the other two with plasma on the sarge and 2 blight launchers.
@OldFreackyGuy5 жыл бұрын
Foul Blight spawn have a 2D6 str. but only 1D6 shoots, not 2. =) But its still amazing unit =)
@felixarbable5 жыл бұрын
The lord with jump pack is a index option and not legal anymore
@alessandroferrara16595 жыл бұрын
NANAVATI WARHAMMER GOD.
@davidjacobson90645 жыл бұрын
These videos are helpful, but it would be better if you took your time and maybe set up some examples. You talk a little too fast.
@agentrecon49835 жыл бұрын
Grate brake down. Ty
@TS-um4ob5 жыл бұрын
Do Genstealer Cult next, I need the help.
@MrSteelface964 жыл бұрын
was wondering if i had put the speed to 1.5 lol.
@nightdevil66664 жыл бұрын
And now i feel too dumb to play. Back to painting hahahah
@AndersRamm5 жыл бұрын
Slow down
@Waagghhboy4 жыл бұрын
I love these videos and this channel Morty is great but a liability. I watched 6 wulfen with SS TH , square up and kill Morty in 2 fight phases .
@TheSushiandme5 жыл бұрын
Best units for Death Guard, Time. :) eventually they all will decay hehehe
@sliss_VR5 жыл бұрын
Lol. I go to that store
@cristianmoss78285 жыл бұрын
So many mistakes in this video... I know he is a good player but wtf
@nordicwarking37075 жыл бұрын
any examples?
@ThroatSore5 жыл бұрын
97 points. Plus combo. Minus skill. Equals 40k ?
@victorflores14915 жыл бұрын
World eaters?
@Marekuo5 жыл бұрын
Rhinos, Land Raiders, Exalted Champions and Berzerkers, that's it. They are quite bad since Chaos Space Marines to be competitive have to spam Slaanesh cultists with the Black Legion or play with Knights too but fun to play since a single Berzerker will make 9 attacks
@victorflores14915 жыл бұрын
@@Marekuo I'm a world eaters player and I heard about that and that really tickled my hecrticle pickle :))
@martinwall79175 жыл бұрын
@@Marekuo how do u get a single berzerker up to 9 attacks?
@Marekuo5 жыл бұрын
@@martinwall7917 2 base attacks, +1 because the chainsword +1 of the World Eaters trait +1 for Hateful Assault. With Blood for the Blood god they fight again but without the World Eaters trait because the FAQ say is only the first time, so is another +4 attacks for a total of 9 and since all the units who charged fight before everyone else you still attack with all of them
@paulmarine50554 жыл бұрын
Jesus slow down Beavis it sounds like you are going to pass out
@defstrikem27435 жыл бұрын
Although Blightlords are the best version of termies, it doesn’t mean they are still good 😂 god aweful, no winning tournies list encloses them.
@NightsattheGameTable5 жыл бұрын
On the up side most terminators did get a price reduction with the new Chapter Approved.
@Black_Blow_Fly5 жыл бұрын
Deathguard is very mid tier at best.
@andreatombesi24585 жыл бұрын
More like trash tier...
@umbrainfernum5 жыл бұрын
As a pure Desth Guard player I agree. The last few games I've had my "incredibly durable" army had been tabled turn 1
@heresyclub36535 жыл бұрын
Wow. Great run down. But you are speaking far too quick cannot keep up with it. Take breath and pause between each unit/model.
@orcus500demott84 жыл бұрын
Stop talking so fast
@elias15794 жыл бұрын
Imagine caring about winning at table top games this much 😂😂😂
@johnontto38635 жыл бұрын
Plage spewer is 2d6 str D6 shots.... lol nick doesnt know everything
@johnontto38635 жыл бұрын
@@mikaistvan9830 he was talking about death guard specific not nurgle daemons