The Best Units for 40k Armies Deathguard

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@rathstar
@rathstar 5 жыл бұрын
...and breath. Great content at lightning speed :)
@ChaosMaker6
@ChaosMaker6 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, loved the information. I just started table top, and I'm focusing on DG. I'll be coming back to this video without a doubt. Thanks!
@Papanurgz777
@Papanurgz777 5 жыл бұрын
I am going to my first tournament and was thinking that my Death Gaurd would be obsolete in the meta so thank you for reinstilling confidence in my Death Gaurd.
@williamharvey7076
@williamharvey7076 5 жыл бұрын
On the Chaos Lord with the Plaguebringer and Blades of Putrefaction, wouldn't it be 1 MW on 5's and 2 MWs on 6's? With Veterans of the Long Wary it would be 1 MW on 4's and 2 MWs on 5's and 6's? Or am I missing something. Plaguebringer is 6+ and Blades of Putrefaction is 7+. Also with the Index stuff going away it seems the Jump Pack version is a "no go" anymore.
@Drakio95
@Drakio95 5 жыл бұрын
If DG could take Chaos Lord with Jump Pack in the Index: Chaos then you still can take him, and that's thing with all the units in such situation.
@derekfarrell8907
@derekfarrell8907 4 жыл бұрын
That was an insanely quick very informative video. Future reference though, slow down lol. Have fun with the explanations. And breath brother, breathe.
@marko243
@marko243 5 жыл бұрын
A few notes: 1) Deathshroud are popoularly combined with Morty, but after that 1st round they will never be in range with him again, since Mortarion needs to go up the board and annihilate in melee, while the Bodyguards are moving only 4'' with half the roll for advances. Deathshroud can be used to protect multiple valuable characters who will likely be close together, such as Blightspawn, Blightbringers, Tallymen or Putrifiers. All these don't have invul saves, so if your opponent manages to get a nasty shot with -3 AP on one of them, you can have the Bodyguard have his 50-50 chance with the invul and the Resilient roll if things go sour. 2) A 7-8 melee squad of Plague Marines with a Putrifier is massive. Disembarking on 2nd turn from a Rhino, you can use the Blight Bomabrdment stratagem to have all of them shoot their grenades. While being close to the Putrifier they have Str 4 AP 0 Dmg 2 blight grenades (reroll 1's to wound) that on 6's to wound they fo an additional mortal wound. Combining that with VotLW and the Arch Contaminator you get 7-8 D6 shots, hitting on 3's (rerolling 1's), having +1 to wound for 2 Dmg each (rerolling all failed wound rolls) and on top of that 5+ deal mortal wounds. 3) Blightlords get the benefit of +1 attacks each when they charge, so the flails now do 3D3 attacks on a charge, with each 6 to hit an Imperium unit genetaring another D3 attacks. 4) No Jump Pack on the DG Chaos Lord any more (Hulk saaaad....) 5) Blightspawn has 9'' range, S 2D6 and D6 attacks (Hulk smash!!!!) 6) Poxwalkers may be looked down by players, but their ability called Mindless makes them perfect objective holders. Along with the Cloud fo Flies Stratagem and the 5+ feel no pain, they can effectively defend an objective against all odds. Not bad for a 10 man 60pts unit with T3 and a 7+ save. 7 - Nurgle likes it!! ) Plague Burst Crawlers are amazing. Yes, they only hit on 4+ like all demon engines and need a Chaos Lord nearby at least to be efficient, but for 140 points they can pack quite a punch. The S8 mortar can hit without line of sight, the stubber can help to clear some screen units (I said "help to clear", not "clear on it's own") and their autohitting plaguespitters will make anyone who tries to charge this S7 T8 5++ and 5+ feel no pain hulk think again or be very sorry (at top bracket the spitters are S7 rerolling 1's to wound). This thing can hit harder than a truck and will most likely hold on to whatever objective it puts it's fat belly onto. If you are up against Knights, the entropy cannons are a quite decent way to cause pain along with the mortar and as long as the enemy focuses their firepower on those 16 wounds of the aforementioned hulk, the rest of your army can move closer to deal mortal wounds in more than enough ways.
@VarunBajaj-asaurus
@VarunBajaj-asaurus 5 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot about Hateful Assault, which gives those blightlord terminators 6D3 attacks on the charge. Which should be virtually enough to kill most things, so you're unlikely to remain stuck in combat.
@interrogatorchaplain9552
@interrogatorchaplain9552 4 жыл бұрын
@That Frosty Ape The hell do you mean getting them to S7, T8? The max you can buff them is S5, T6.
@acetraker1988
@acetraker1988 5 жыл бұрын
Mortarion costs too many points needs to go down in CA2019. Compared to Robo-G-man even after the nerf, more wounds is worse than 9 wounds and non targetable. Same with magnus thu he is better due to actually have decent psychic ability. 380-400 is where these models should be pointed at.
@fluffywarfield
@fluffywarfield 5 жыл бұрын
That's the power of Nurgle engineering.
@atlas6538
@atlas6538 4 жыл бұрын
This was very informative and help me understand the army so much
@hawkeyefigure
@hawkeyefigure 5 жыл бұрын
Your thumbnail misspelled deathguard!
@olivers6044
@olivers6044 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks so much for making this! Great video much appreciated
@Michael-ib6ky
@Michael-ib6ky 5 жыл бұрын
Cant remember last time i saw morty tbh. Dude's scary- he's hobestly the main reason I've taken more screening
@michaelironrider9443
@michaelironrider9443 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm, pure DG only seems playable with FW dreads. They are missing good 24+firepower and need to come close, but are too slow. You can just outrange them. And they are lacking good strats. For me a weak codex on its own, with only a handful good units (PBC, BLT, PW...). Needs to get an update!
@Fimbul_Crafts
@Fimbul_Crafts 5 жыл бұрын
Big Agreement here. One of my most beloved factions though. Hopefully it will get updated soon.
@smintili
@smintili 5 жыл бұрын
Tournament circuit would disagree with you there.
@anungunrama9344
@anungunrama9344 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah they should add more units to the roster. Im new so i dont even know if thats a thing they can do.
@marcarthur100
@marcarthur100 5 жыл бұрын
how do u get two us chaos space marens cikic powers in deathgard???
@zachsmith8967
@zachsmith8967 4 жыл бұрын
What would you suggest to help against Grey Knights?
@urbanslem
@urbanslem 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid man!
@Zydlik7
@Zydlik7 5 жыл бұрын
Against DG's 9" flamers could you deep strike 9.1" away and then don't have to deal with overwatch and still need a 9 on the charge?
@tippman98us
@tippman98us 5 жыл бұрын
Yep yep
@Beedji
@Beedji 5 жыл бұрын
Yes... Clearly GW didn't think this through
@tippman98us
@tippman98us 5 жыл бұрын
But this also means DG flamers have to deep strike in 9.1" away and can't just DS in and autohit you in 1 turn
@songohan1075
@songohan1075 5 жыл бұрын
Like this series hope we see Astra Militarum too
@zachlimb2094
@zachlimb2094 5 жыл бұрын
Is getting the start collecting nurgle demons worth it?
@Derret134
@Derret134 5 жыл бұрын
Foul Blightspawn weapon is D6 shots not 2D6.
@jaimeminaya4679
@jaimeminaya4679 5 жыл бұрын
Would the scorpius be considered a good deathguard unit? I have an old rhino and was thinking about trying to convert it.
@kayray71
@kayray71 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you You guys keep making awesome Content
@LucTaltos
@LucTaltos 5 жыл бұрын
Everything Nick says here is correct. I absolutely swear by the Deathshrouds (4 or 5 is about right to make it 1-2 turns, and only 55 points each), but let me mention a couple units that weren't covered here: The Index Daemon Prince and the Sorceror on Palanquin of Nurgle (their legal status as Legends tbd in the future). They're your only sources of Dark Hereticus powers if you play mono-faction, and highly desirable for that alone (again, pending their status as Legends). Their major drawback is in not having Disgustingly Resilient. I highly recommend using Warptime on the Deathshrouds the first turn so that they can continue to protect Mortarion while you eliminate the screen. Then continuing to use the power on Blightlords to get them moving and into combat where they belong.
@nordicwarking3707
@nordicwarking3707 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe I forgot, but you haven't mentioned the Biologous Putrifier, right? Put him in a Chaos Rhino with some Plague Marines, use the stratagem and kill the enemy with lots of blight grenades.
@Kingofsea7591
@Kingofsea7591 5 жыл бұрын
Wait for that that strat it says they have to be the closest visible unit but if they are not visible does that mean I dont have to shoot them
@marko243
@marko243 5 жыл бұрын
It means that if you have a unit utilize the stratagem and another one closer to the enemy but not visible to them, they won't be able to target either of them, one due to lack of visibility and the other because of the stratagem.
@Devianreal
@Devianreal 5 жыл бұрын
Now I wanna play DG. Just cuz of Big Boi
@Black_Blow_Fly
@Black_Blow_Fly 5 жыл бұрын
Flails with DtFE so sick doves cry
@felixarbable
@felixarbable 5 жыл бұрын
Steve Turner 3d3 attacks now
@GreenEagle34
@GreenEagle34 5 жыл бұрын
Death guard lords can't take a jet pack so does that mean that he would just be a regular chaos space marine lord if so your own army would kill him because he lacks the mark of nurgle?
@smintili
@smintili 5 жыл бұрын
What's your stance on Necrosius the Undying? I found him to be very powerful as an HQ, he's basically Typhus without Terminator armour. Plus since he has no pre-defined Warlord trait you could theoretically give him T6, which is also nice.
@raydonmoodie9982
@raydonmoodie9982 5 жыл бұрын
So we’re do I get this chais lord with a jet pack and a power sword? And this demon prince with plates? Or how to I make them?
@marykfcjane
@marykfcjane 5 жыл бұрын
For the Chaos Lord you will need to do your own conversion, the Raptor/Warp Talon box will be your best bet alongside whatever other bits you want to add. The Supperating Plate is an artifact that doesn't need to be represented on the model, but if I remember correctly the Resin Nurgle Deamon Prince kit from GW does have a bit of a chest plate. Hope this helps.
@raydonmoodie9982
@raydonmoodie9982 5 жыл бұрын
Is a chaos lord even aloud a jet pack under death guard?
@Sicariusification
@Sicariusification 5 жыл бұрын
@@raydonmoodie9982 No, sadly not.
@Black_Blow_Fly
@Black_Blow_Fly 5 жыл бұрын
Blightlords rawk but combi plasma bruh come on feel the sickness
@neroscurse
@neroscurse 5 жыл бұрын
How do I take a chaos lord with jump pack for deathguard? Didn’t see anything in the codex.
@orkboy8880
@orkboy8880 5 жыл бұрын
You need to "transfer him" from the standard chaos space marine codex to the death guard and the points form there as well
@19mills87
@19mills87 5 жыл бұрын
How do i get warptime when i can only use powers from the contagion discipline? Ive been running the smash brothers so magnus can warptime morty, but damn 915pts for 2 models that die turn 1 against most lists is a bitch just to jump morty into combat turn 1(if the person im playing doesnt role that damn 6 lol)
@MexicanNinja007
@MexicanNinja007 5 жыл бұрын
Drink some water and breath Breh....was done 30 seconds into this
@VAB0L0
@VAB0L0 5 жыл бұрын
Ahh, Deathshroud Terminators... the _other_ Shield Drone!
@LoftOfTheUniverse
@LoftOfTheUniverse 5 жыл бұрын
What's the best way to kill DG?
@CrushDepth19
@CrushDepth19 5 жыл бұрын
pray
@grafic5508
@grafic5508 5 жыл бұрын
Love the Videos & Nick for the incredible insight into my favorite army of all time! I do have a question or two, can my Malignant Plaguecaster take Warp Time & if not how do I bring it & not break the rules? Or am I simply shortsighted & have gone for the Death Guard powers while I could have chosen any out of the chaos powers? For my second question & this one might be difficult to answer, but how do I know if something "stacks" with one another? Side note: I did enjoy how you portrayed Mortarion as the "big bad baddie guy", I do believe that you were looking for the word Primarch! Keep up the incredible work!
@marko243
@marko243 5 жыл бұрын
The Plaguecaster can only choose spells from the Contagion discipline, so neither Warptime nor Precience can be picked up by him. You will need a Sorcerer of some sort in your army eligible to pick them.
@grafic5508
@grafic5508 5 жыл бұрын
@@marko243 Thank you for the reply :) Will I need a sorcerer of Tzeentch in a different detachment to get the benefit of Warp time?
@marko243
@marko243 5 жыл бұрын
@@grafic5508 Yes, for example a Supreme Command Detachment could let you use Ahriman and 2 Exalted Sorcerers, giving you a tone of options is spells. Just pick those that would allow your DG units to be chosen as targets (e.g. not Weaver of Fate). I'd go with the more offensive spells like Death Hex and Doombolt, along with Precience and Warptime.
@eddietorres8560
@eddietorres8560 5 жыл бұрын
is typhus competitive? with the right list?
@CrushDepth19
@CrushDepth19 5 жыл бұрын
not unless you want to be that guy and take 120 poxwalkers
@urdrakule1755
@urdrakule1755 5 жыл бұрын
very interesting although don't try to rush everything
@Grim67894
@Grim67894 5 жыл бұрын
What should DG use as troops then? Plaguebearers?
@deremotive11
@deremotive11 5 жыл бұрын
Plague Marines with Blightlaunchers; sit them in cover and on an objective. T5 on a +2 with a FnP of 5+ is a tricky thing for most armies to move, and Blightlaunchers are too powerful to ignore.
@effindave6909
@effindave6909 5 жыл бұрын
@@deremotive11 I run 3 squads of seven (because lore, i'm not a power gamer) 1 squad with 3 plasma (one sarge, two marines) and the other two with plasma on the sarge and 2 blight launchers.
@OldFreackyGuy
@OldFreackyGuy 5 жыл бұрын
Foul Blight spawn have a 2D6 str. but only 1D6 shoots, not 2. =) But its still amazing unit =)
@felixarbable
@felixarbable 5 жыл бұрын
The lord with jump pack is a index option and not legal anymore
@alessandroferrara1659
@alessandroferrara1659 5 жыл бұрын
NANAVATI WARHAMMER GOD.
@davidjacobson9064
@davidjacobson9064 5 жыл бұрын
These videos are helpful, but it would be better if you took your time and maybe set up some examples. You talk a little too fast.
@agentrecon4983
@agentrecon4983 5 жыл бұрын
Grate brake down. Ty
@TS-um4ob
@TS-um4ob 5 жыл бұрын
Do Genstealer Cult next, I need the help.
@MrSteelface96
@MrSteelface96 4 жыл бұрын
was wondering if i had put the speed to 1.5 lol.
@nightdevil6666
@nightdevil6666 4 жыл бұрын
And now i feel too dumb to play. Back to painting hahahah
@AndersRamm
@AndersRamm 5 жыл бұрын
Slow down
@Waagghhboy
@Waagghhboy 4 жыл бұрын
I love these videos and this channel Morty is great but a liability. I watched 6 wulfen with SS TH , square up and kill Morty in 2 fight phases .
@TheSushiandme
@TheSushiandme 5 жыл бұрын
Best units for Death Guard, Time. :) eventually they all will decay hehehe
@sliss_VR
@sliss_VR 5 жыл бұрын
Lol. I go to that store
@cristianmoss7828
@cristianmoss7828 5 жыл бұрын
So many mistakes in this video... I know he is a good player but wtf
@nordicwarking3707
@nordicwarking3707 5 жыл бұрын
any examples?
@ThroatSore
@ThroatSore 5 жыл бұрын
97 points. Plus combo. Minus skill. Equals 40k ?
@victorflores1491
@victorflores1491 5 жыл бұрын
World eaters?
@Marekuo
@Marekuo 5 жыл бұрын
Rhinos, Land Raiders, Exalted Champions and Berzerkers, that's it. They are quite bad since Chaos Space Marines to be competitive have to spam Slaanesh cultists with the Black Legion or play with Knights too but fun to play since a single Berzerker will make 9 attacks
@victorflores1491
@victorflores1491 5 жыл бұрын
@@Marekuo I'm a world eaters player and I heard about that and that really tickled my hecrticle pickle :))
@martinwall7917
@martinwall7917 5 жыл бұрын
@@Marekuo how do u get a single berzerker up to 9 attacks?
@Marekuo
@Marekuo 5 жыл бұрын
@@martinwall7917 2 base attacks, +1 because the chainsword +1 of the World Eaters trait +1 for Hateful Assault. With Blood for the Blood god they fight again but without the World Eaters trait because the FAQ say is only the first time, so is another +4 attacks for a total of 9 and since all the units who charged fight before everyone else you still attack with all of them
@paulmarine5055
@paulmarine5055 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus slow down Beavis it sounds like you are going to pass out
@defstrikem2743
@defstrikem2743 5 жыл бұрын
Although Blightlords are the best version of termies, it doesn’t mean they are still good 😂 god aweful, no winning tournies list encloses them.
@NightsattheGameTable
@NightsattheGameTable 5 жыл бұрын
On the up side most terminators did get a price reduction with the new Chapter Approved.
@Black_Blow_Fly
@Black_Blow_Fly 5 жыл бұрын
Deathguard is very mid tier at best.
@andreatombesi2458
@andreatombesi2458 5 жыл бұрын
More like trash tier...
@umbrainfernum
@umbrainfernum 5 жыл бұрын
As a pure Desth Guard player I agree. The last few games I've had my "incredibly durable" army had been tabled turn 1
@heresyclub3653
@heresyclub3653 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Great run down. But you are speaking far too quick cannot keep up with it. Take breath and pause between each unit/model.
@orcus500demott8
@orcus500demott8 4 жыл бұрын
Stop talking so fast
@elias1579
@elias1579 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine caring about winning at table top games this much 😂😂😂
@johnontto3863
@johnontto3863 5 жыл бұрын
Plage spewer is 2d6 str D6 shots.... lol nick doesnt know everything
@johnontto3863
@johnontto3863 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikaistvan9830 he was talking about death guard specific not nurgle daemons
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