The Best Way How to Sidechain in FL Studio 2022 (Better than LFO Tool)

[@houx7044]

this is actually such a good tips for people who can’t afford 3rd party plugins! patcher is so overlooked, yet such a powerful tool

[@ressanprod]

LFO tool is free actually

[@WelcometoJandJ]

@@ressanprod dude its 50$ lol

[@toniverz_lofi]

​@@ressanproddude surely using a crack LFO tool and thought it was free. Hahahahahaha

[@Nuggifresh]

This is good even if you can afford the higher dollar bullshut trust me I have both

[@Nuggifresh]

@@toniverz_lofithe best producers all use cracked versions. Catch up little guys

[@esli4694]

Guys (and gals): I bought the Full Bundle {everything) a couple weeks ago and this gentleman is massively knowledgeable in music production. Max definitely knows what he's doing. I've searched through KZbin for tips and such but damn I didn't realize how little I knew about music production until Max explains the techniques and even explains why they are the way they are. Max, I finished the Beginners course and I'm off to the Full Mixing course. Let's get it!!!!

[@calebanku5535]

bro I use m1 Mac ,can u kindly share your license with me.

[@LETTMusic]

Main drawback of this method is it's not velocity/volume sensitive. It more or less becomes a time based envelope shape that ducks the gain/volume of something else. But say you do a really fast 1/32 or 1/16 kick chop that sweeps up in velocity into a drop. This approach would trigger the same level of ducking whether the kick is as 10% or 100% velocity, leading to just a part of your song where something is ducked constantly. Fruity Limiter's sidechaining is audio input based, so it considers the volume levels of your kicks/snares or whatever you're sidechaining against, and compresses the other thing proportionately, making for a more natural and realistic sidechain relationship. Using Fruity Envelope as a free alternative to LFO Tool is dope, but in case anyone else here does want velocity/volume dependent sidechaining, may want to stick with Fruity Limiter or Fruity Peak Controller until somehow a Patcher like this considers the velocity of MIDI Out notes.

[@Keroser1983]

Very well said my friend

[@theMixElite]

Update: It works with the Velocity as well now :) I talked with LETT on our Discord Server already - and I think it was brilliant idea. I updated the Free pack, so make sure to download it!

[@LETTMusic]

@@theMixElite You've helped me learn a lot and got my back, so I got yours. Just trying to always make things better. Keep developing these ideas more and more. Thanks for the continued work!

[@LLAWREN]

@@theMixElite hey Max, can you link the discord server please? cheers :)

[@footsnviews]

@@theMixElite Not seeing this in the Free Patcher Lords lite pack. Should I be looking somewhere else?

[@Jacob24FPS]

Been producing since 2007, always learning new tricks. Thanks for the upload, my guy!

[@kinganatee2757]

This really makes you understand why FL studio is the best Daw. I mean this is amazing.

[@Micalex]

Not sure if it was mentioned in the video but a huge advantage to this method is that the envelope controller always completes its cycle. This beats the automation method because sometimes when you stop playback, you can stop half way through your automation so your sound is now half its volume or its fully muted. I'll use this method from now on.

[@sharpynomila]

So it's better than the second one which is faster?

[@ArtisolGG]

dude you're a legend you understand? say it with me, you are a legend!

[@prolifik302]

Peak controller is the OG lowkey goat of all goats nothing comes close

[@fluncovered]

Hey decent video, was it the fl forum that inspired it? I wrote about these methods there a couple of years back but a couple of points to add to your video... 1) Swap fruity balance for a fruity send... Why? a) it clicks and pops much less than fruity balance when making abrupt changes. b) It has less built in smoothing time and will therefore reflect more accurately to what you draw in FEC. C) its volume control is 0-100% so you do not need to adjust like you always need to with a fruity balance. 2) if it is critical for you that your ducking has to take place truly where you have set it on the grid then for that you should use a fruity limiter as the volume control to link to its gain because... a) Fruity limiter has built in look a head and thus can duck quicker on grid and can duck transients that happen at the place you first set your envelope to occur, without the benefit of look a head from the likes of fruity limiter you may have to apply some negative delay to the start point of your ducking envelope (i.e. move the envelope left slightly back in the timeline) to effectively duck early transients, but if using the layer channel trick you won't be able to have the envelope react early unless of course you use a look ahead option, but this level of accuracy will rarely be needed and it will require added latency but it is worth noting non the less. b) A bonus is you can use its attack knob to dial in your desired smoothing amount too. 3) You don't need a MIDI out, you can just load an Envelope controller in the channel rack and link your chosen gain control to its articulator and like in your video you can then link this via a layer instead of a MIDI out. 4) A nice variation to add about replacing your Envelope controller with an automation clip is that changing the pitch of an automation clip in its keys display window at bottom if its setting window will change the speed of your envelope! So for example off-setting by an octave lower will double your envelope time, plus an octave will half the time taken. Points to note are that envelope controller does not have this advantage, this same action has no effect on them but they do have 8 separate articulatos in one so they do save a very small amount of CPU compared with 8 automation clips and a little channel rack space too of course.

[@chilla939]

This is super helpful. You can also recreate the pattern in piano roll, if you use samples directly instead of patterns. Thank you

[@Nuggifresh]

This dude is legit one of the best I’ve seen at fl md I been on it since fl3

[@samusbros66]

07:06 i really liked this one, never been into Fl Studio Patcher, but i always knew that it was some next level shit, thanks for the video

[@normanlove222]

Had to watch this again, and now I got it and it works. best sidechain ever.. thanks

[@David-gp3fd]

Use a frequency splitter in patcher for more control of what frequencies youre sidechaining then you can also add effects onto each frequency send and route them back into a maximizer or something to correct any linear phase artificats, etc....

[@JPPWB]

I've always just used Fruity Peak controller. Seems to be the quickest way to sidechain to me and is very customizable and user friendly.

[@theMixElite]

Much faster and easier using the technique from the vide, try it out! ;)

[@j-star1]

next level tutorial, subscribed!

[@bcrtrx]

this is a neat method, really need to give patcher a try. i generally use Peak Controller with different ghost kicks to make the shape more flexible

[@Boizz_Tv]

🙂 my Favorite KZbin channel right now

[@HardTimesStudios]

thats nice except FL studio can't delay compensate midi out yet, so it won't trigger in time especially if you're using a lot of plugins and have a lot going on.

[@D.YellaUg]

You changed my production skills since 2020, thanks

[@Maxillo1215]

interesting! Another powerful tool added to the arsenal 🔥

[@piotrkopiec]

Max, twoje porady to potęga!

[@NRTKDNB]

co kurva ?

[@buccaneerglacier]

I love how you make everything look so easy...can u PLEEEEASE make a tutorial on how to use FLSlayer?

[@Meet13Singh]

Dude🤜🏼🤛🏼👍🏼

[@BVK.]

FL Slayer is such a badbutt guitar sound if used correctly Loved IT.

[@Micalex]

Ok this is actually epic af. Will add it to the list.

[@67cans2]

Max by far your tutorials are over-the-top I have such a collection of them and refer to them all the time thank you so much for making these for all of us.

[@saddam.212]

this trick useful but not too much when you work on drum & bass beat loop pattern, it will trigger for all instruments. my method is use bus which I filtered by EQ before hit fruity peak controller so signal will trigger on the kick area only. after that put fruity lfotool & link controller to lfotool volume. It will sidechain perfectly

[@krasen671]

youve really inspired me to make my own patcher presets, love you bro

[@theMixElite]

A video just about that coming next week!

[@krasen671]

@@theMixElite 👀👀👀

[@mildahardbasser]

very good, thanks man!

[@TracingFlares]

Take a breath man😊 no need to rush through content... faster doesn mean better😊😊

[@synthsystem]

you should try putting this on a snare drum in an empty project, as if you're sidechaining the snare drum to the midi trigger. Im getting a huge click on the transient, which I would not get with lfotool, meaning this is not a fun time

[@onaucc9899]

An added benefit is probably, that it's much, MUCH better for CPU Load than external plug-ins. I haven't tried it with this one (i sure will), but it's almost always the case. I used LFO Tool for the longest time, but there was a weirt issue with it... Sometimes, i believe when the start-position was at the start of a bar (=when the kick hits), and a side-chained channel is soloed, then it would randomly PERMANENTLY sidechain, leaving the volume at the min value in the LFO-Tool. That was annyoing enough for me to swicht back to the regular fruity limiter method, because - again - much, much better CPU load compared to 3rd party.

[@MjQuan]

hey,max.please do a video on how to transfer idea from brain to daw.thanks

[@lionelcheo599]

MY ARRANGEMENT SUCKS BAD please do a video for very simplified way of arranging and structuring beat

[@theMixElite]

Don't forget to *hit a like* & download today's Lite Patcher Preset Pack for Free: MixElite.com/Lords P.S. It works with Velocity as well :)

[@Alice-tc4ue]

Eh Bro I know you're Cool but can you help me to get out from my beat-block?!

[@theMixElite]

@@Alice-tc4ue Yes!!! Sign up for the newsletter at the bottom of the page here: fltips.com I'm going to send you something really good regarding beat-block

[@Alice-tc4ue]

@@theMixElite IS THAT FOR FREE?

[@101DJAcademy]

I wanna buy the full FL pack tutorial!!! beats, tips, tricks, mixing , master

[@theMixElite]

@@Alice-tc4ue Yes!

[@UranoSteam]

I do it with master automations lol allows you to be more creative with sidechains and cuts but it's a more tedious process

[@cinematichormone]

Made the night bro ✌️✌️🔥

[@davidortega2914]

Thanks for the information 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@НесторФокин-с7ц]

Best of the best💯

[@enterthevortex5883]

This idea is limited, because midi out device makes a sound except on port zero. Which you are already occupying with the kick side chain. So, say you also want to side chain the snare, you can't because midi out device port 1 through 255 make sounds. The only way to lower the volume is in the piano roll velocity to get rid of the sound but then you won't trigger the sidechain.

[@otn3llucexxx547]

Aquí presente.. Latinoamérica; Venezuela!

[@jojosyoutubeadventure4659]

Recording videos. Recording vocals, guitar (acoustic & electric) etc

[@fangquangressquangress4888]

perfect Tips

[@dannylinsen8080]

Yo max that was cool stuff. Maybe a video to get us more familiar with patcher altogether. How to setup a few more basic presets? I’m enjoying your help through the mixing course at the moment on my drill song 👌🏼🔥

[@madoba8717]

This is great! I use fruity love philter for an easy sidechain and fruity limiter for everything else :)

[@smokinghighnotes]

how do we sidechain with love philter ?

[@徐紹嘉]

this is a really crazy one!!

[@ibeatsbyjunius5341]

Get this man a drink 👏👏👏👏👏

[@anuragvermav6008]

Now I don't need kickstart 2 Gosh what a money saver..🤑

[@LETTMusic]

Kickstart 2 has audio dependent sidechaining, so you could run a drum loop or non MIDI data through it and it ducks the other source accordingly, so it definitely still has its use that this doesn't cover. That being said you can set up audio dependent sidechaining relationships with stock plugins still with Fruity Peak Controller or Fruity Limiter. Kickstart 2 is only $16 though, it's pretty cheap for what you get.

[@FiRaHL]

great video and patcher preset. But it isn`t in the free patcher pack?

[@normanlove222]

this was so hard to follow. I have no idea what is going on.

[@egglion7931]

This sarcasm or no

[@jayarecordsofficial]

7:07 damn dude

[@PavanMS87]

Just incredible! Can please make videos for chords and melody generation using FLs tools for users with limited music theory? Looking for intermediate to advance level topics please 😀

[@BELIKEJUATER]

Fruity delay 3 is the best one

[@ranoodixit7371]

Bro how to get that 808s and perfect bass line Everytime pls tell.

[@Christunesmusic]

Can you show how to do frequency masking sidechain in patcher? It would be nice to have a preset for removing low end from all sounds in drops, and get the sounds back to full spectrum in other parts of the song. I mean without making seperate tracks in mixer for EQ's or automation for every time it happens. Love the video. My new favourite sidechain method. It beats the kickstart easy fix!

[@fluncovered]

I have a patcher coming out with the forthcoming FL21 which will do this but on steroids, it will duck all note frequencies independently, it is a note frequency trackspacer but you will need to use it in a stems mastering session ideally as it is extremely CPU intensive, it's possibly the biggest CPU hungry patcher patch ever 🤣

[@Antweezy]

is there a way in patcher to separate so only the lower frequencies have the applied sidechain effect?

[@bm_no_beat]

very good bro congratulations

[@LifeOutsideSin]

Awesome!

[@bouniinc]

U r da best

[@bluefire9113]

(🥭FL STUDIO) *How to make House sidechain in Fruity Love Philter:* • Load up default patch • Turn on HQ envelopes (less clicking) • Turn off oversampling (saves CPU) • Set Filter type to OFF • Enable Tempo on Vol Envelope • Make a bar long LFO curve • Make sure you set the start and endpoints to loop your LFO TIP: If you want to move off-grid, you can always switch off the green magnet button on the bottom-right of the grid.

[@debojitofficial7224]

Very nice bro Bro please make video on how to sound same like stereo in mono

[@PK-cs4cb]

Genius

[@Delta9634-e2k]

Crazy!

[@Lkshyamusic]

Fl studio tips Instagram page does not work , did he delete or change its name ?

[@navazmerchant3241]

Hi Max Want to request you to make a patcher preset that's very similar to waves one knob pumper, I'm curious what makes it very different behind the hood compared to other 3rd party sidechain plugins where you need to tweak a bit to get that pump

[@Manuel99441]

I have one simple (nooby) question. Why dont you just automate the volume knob of fruity Balance? Create an automation clip of that and create your own sidechain in the playlist?

[@maurodossantos5562]

You’re the best

[@rebocodianteiro]

sometimes i use fruity peak controller to sidechain

[@higuyssssss]

kick 2 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@teilekind1877]

Cool but Do you know a way to trigger envelope Controller or a other gate by Sound/volume and not by midi Note I mean is there a way to create midi cc Orders out of Peaks from for example a kick pattern

[@LETTMusic]

Yeah, I'm trying to think how to do it in Patcher, because like you say, velocity/volume isn't considered, or if you wanted to sidechain against the audio input of say a .wav drum loop. This method helps to set up a quick LFO shape style sidechain at any rhythm you want in the song, but doesn't really consider if some kicks are quieter or louder than others and adjusting the ducking amount accordingly.

[@just_dimi3]

7:10 one of the hardest tips for sidechain

[@paulromero97]

Is there a way you can sidechain one channel from multiple sources?, for example one reverb to more than one background vocal channel , or a lead vocal hannel and verse vocal channel to the reverb? . Normally I know when you side chain especially with third party plugins in my case you can only select one channel in the processing sidechain slot...any feed back?

[@letyourspiritsoar1597]

I can't write true guitar cords in fl studio. can you help me on this. please

[@aguguwin]

Y'all do realize gross beat has a sidechain volume pattern for easy sidechaining right lol 😅?

[@moqimi]

Many thanks

[@innovativemusicconcepts840]

VERY NICE BUT , you need to slow down a little, thanks

[@keesverschoor528]

Tried this to get rid of the popping noise I have when sidechaining with fl limiter. Sadly still have it with this method. Any tips on how to resolve it?

[@keesverschoor528]

2nd problem I encounter is the midi out does not adapt to track latency which makes for the sidechaining not to be triggered at the correct timing..

[@GetMassive]

Kickstart army Hit like 😁

[@mokshasingh8228]

This is insane

[@phixphixation7261]

Oh WOW!

[@cvstlebeats]

What makes this superior to something like using peak controller to simply volume duck???

[@walterdeminicis737]

Nothing. It's just more complicated lol

[@samuelzenzele7299]

the lords light pack patcher is not free tried to grab it

[@blacwater247]

🔥

[@hectorsmith7497]

i dont get it i made the hole thing likke him and by me it dosent goes down when i play keyboard

[@walterdeminicis737]

This sounds and looks 10x harder than using fruity limiter sidechain compression or fruity peak controller. Why is this better? XD This gives you many more options at hand maybe, but if you just want to sidechain volume, peak controller and fruity limiter are simply much faster, easier and intuitive, aren't they?

[@cogli]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO! amazing

[@manuelmejia8737]

Would love to see a sampling video if you haven't made one already. Thank you for the tips man always appreciated.

[@felipecepeda7807]

Gracias.

[@AshtonHill-qb9md]

Why cant I find the MIDI out?

[@AshtonHill-qb9md]

NVM I found it haha

[@da4mula885]

Why not use the FL limiter, that is intended for sidechaining

[@theMixElite]

It's much harder to control the shape. It will work, but if you want really top noch mix - you got to have a shape of your sidechain be perfectly in line with the kick waveform. It's the final 2% really, so no big deal if you don't use this technique.

[@walterdeminicis737]

AVICII used peak controller on Mixer Fader. Overcomplication kills creativity and effectiveness

[@serialmusic]

What's a scary movie 😨

[@iamcostelo]

FL Studio Tips > W.A. Productions.

[@NK-ut7ul]

Plz provide this patcher preset

[@mohitk_]

Lord max

[@GodSpeed1105]

Lowkey bro I don't wanna even fw patcher bro😂

[@EdgarsBukovskisMusic]

Still fruity limiter is way better

[@theMixElite]

Why? :D

[@samuelpinet8621]

Doesn't work rip i got only "events" in the output of the VFX envelope sadly

[@DoctorFlanBeats]

Sucesso!

[@Dk007-n8v]

peak controller does the same right ?🤣

[@slava_q100]

All these LFO tools, as well as your method, are not really good for proper EDM music. When every dB counts you need full control. Also, all these methods, even if you go down to 0 dB, leave a small amount of signal over your kick (or whatever) attack. So there's no lookahead option. The only proper plugin that has this is Duck Buddy, yet it's only for Ableton. So manual sidechain in FL still for now.

[@melvinshaw252]

gone over my head tmi