The Best We've Ever Had? BLOWN AWAY By Rum That Bourbon Drinkers Could Love! | Foursquare Nobiliary

[@arbeckWA]

It's very interesting that you like this more than the "year" releases. Foursquare does a year release every year (2010 is the current, 2005 being the best I've ever tasted). These are always 12 years old and 100% ex-bourbon (Jack Daniel's) casks. They also usually do two named releases a year. One will be a lower proof (usually around 100 proof) that has a double maturation (ex-bourbon and ex-port, ex-Madeira, ex-Sherry, ex-zinfandel, ex-Cognac, etc). The recent examples of these were Sagacity, Detente, Indelible, Dominus, Premise, and Touchstone. Depending on your market these are $60-90. The named release is also 100% ex-bourbon, but just slightly older, 14-18 years usually. These are in the $150 range and include Nobilary, Touchstone, Shibboleth. They also seem to be recently releasing an older barrel proof double maturation product but I haven't bought one as the price is often quite high (160+ in my market). Sovereignty and Redoubtable are the most recent ones on the shelf. I've found many people that either prefer the double maturation or the yearly release, and people who like all three. But the more expensive older releases are often divisive. 14+ years aging in Barbados is a long time to sit in a barrel and they can often be too oaky for some.

[@stuffandwhiskey]

Great comment Andrew! Makes us want to look out for those other releases that fall more in this range of Nobiliary. Maybe they're just the ones that are right up our alley? Or maybe we need to revisit one of the yearly releases? Probably both.

[@danm203]

Is the 2010 worth it at $105?

[@arbeckWA]

@@danm203 for me, yes. But other than proof it's not that dissimilar to the RL Seale 14 at about half the price.

[@arbeckWA]

@@stuffandwhiskey I can "hand deliver" you some 2010 and some Shibboleth if you want.

[@paullee2177]

Just did a Spirts in Oregon search and none of the Foursquare rums are available in NW Oregon. Closest is Portland, 125 miles away. They have 2009, 2010, Sovereignty, Touchstone but no Nobiliary. Road Trip!

[@runstreetwise]

I'm a gigantic fan of Foursquare, and visited the distillery last year which was an incredible experience. What I love about Foursquare is that they're all so different from vintage to vintage, or which casks they're finished in. While Nobiliary is hard to find now, I'd keep an eye out for either the yearly vintages or the older ex-bourbon aged casks (ie: Shibboleth or Isonomy). With that said, I'd be happy to send several Foursquare samples to add to your blind pool as I have a ton!

[@stuffandwhiskey]

Well said about their quality and diversity across their releases, Andre. We've got several samples in the pool (Shibboleth and Isonomy) and it'll be fun to see how those compare when they pop up!

[@christopherm.2413]

Best rum I've ever had was a bottle from Rolling Fork. It was sourced from Foursquare and it was 9 years old and finished for over a year in XO brandy barrels. I highly recommend Ron Izalco as well. Cheers, Erin and Josh 🥃

[@josephvelez5685]

Mount gay black barrel is a rum aged in ex-bourbon barrels and is a fine rum for bourbon drinkers. Love the vid!

[@VangelisFilms]

Mount Gay XO is my absolute fav after Foursquare

[@graveshotx]

If you think Nobillary is good, you should search out the Foursquare Touchstone which just came out and adds ex-cognac casks to the mix. Like tropical fruit salad in a glass.

[@aarontran2801]

Visited Chopper back in January when I visited and it blew me away! Also a HUGE Foursquare fan! I can’t believe at that proof I can drink it neat. Love their transparency and quality!

[@rpredl]

This is the most excited I’ve seen you guys.

[@markwood6625]

Found a bottle of 2011 today and I didn't blink at 137 OTD. And I've never bought high end rum

[@canudigit5565]

Another great rum to try on ice is Diplomatico Reserva Exclusiva - worth a try if it’s available in your market.

[@aboutjourneysailing]

Lol Josh, our earlier conversation makes a lot more sense now! You all are too funny 🤣

[@williamhancock9587]

Absolutely my favorite channel keep up the great work.

[@neilrobertson6849]

I have 3 bottles of Foursquare Exceptional Cask, but the only one I’ve opened so far is the Detente. 10 year x-bourbon and x-port and I absolutely love it! $86 in Washington and worth every penny.

[@SFguy415]

Rum -- the single most diverse distilled spirit on the planet -- is its own rabbit hole.

[@canucklehead0]

I love you both however, once again it's my favourite Superior Alien that hits the nail with a sledgehammer (Praise Jesus!!)! Like Erin, I am not a person who likes rum, let alone would ever go out of their way to find a bottle to put in my liquor cabinet. That said, I have had a couple different FourSquare products at different events and as rums go, it wasn't the worst thing I have ever tasted booze wise. Of course in saying that a bottle of FourSquare (if you can even find one) Rum of any kind typically Starts at $180.00 CDN and goes up quickly from there. A bottle of FourSquare Barbados Rum 2005 16 year old runs at an eye watering $254.00CDN and as much as I am intrigued I can buy 2 bottles of Port Charlotte Islay Scotch PLUS 2 perfect Ribeyes and two Lobsters with Morel and Chantrelle mushrooms and the fixings for a wonderful night for two with the change. I don't mind paying premium money for a premium product but, I like value and I would also prefer what I buy to my taste. As an example with Watches, I like Tudor and Omega but I can afford Zodiac and Oris so those are the watches I have and I'm very happy with them. I like Islay Scotch but can't justify anything over $200.00 for a bottle (at least not at my current income) so I choose bottles like Port Charlotte, Laphroig Lore, and Lagavulin 16. I do not doubt for an instant that you guys are wrong and that this is likely to be the best Rum I've ever tasted, but given the cost, availability and that I'm not drawn to rums for the most part, I guess my cabinet will stay rum free until I ever meet someone who simply adores that spirit, and that I adore enough to buy that bottle of rum. Great review, as always!! Cheers - Dave

[@Michael-yz5ix]

Not sure if you have or not, but maybe do a video for beginners on “how” your getting all the different notes, and kind of just how to sip bourbon. Just wish there was a video like that for me when I started. Thanks for the content.

[@AdamShelton007]

If someone were to make a soundboard of WhiskeyTubers, I would want Erin's "DUH!" on it.

[@OttoBoy]

FourSquare is the only rum that I typically drink neat without hesitation. This distillery does not play games like so many other rum distilleries that sweeteners to make their products appeal to the masses. It’s very obvious that FourSquare is a sipping rum of high quality. Sure - those eccentric non-bourbon aromas like acetone and rubber can be a turn off. But as one’s nose adjusts, the many other notes and flavors start to open up. I had a half-full 2007 hiding in the back of the cabinet for a while. Opening it, no acetone or other “weird” aromas. Just about all of the “good” notes remained. I kept going back to it - and like you folks, I typically reach for American whiskey almost all of the time. The annual releases (2007, 2008, 2010, etc.) seem to have very similar profiles. The named releases (Nobiliary, Sagacity, Shibboleth, etc.) vary in proof and flavor/nose. I think you can always count on grabbing the annual releases. Do your homework on the named releases before buying. Most devoted bourbon drinkers will likely lean toward the expressions with higher proof as well as those containing mostly if not all the juice aged in the ex-bourbon barrels. I believe that they age their rums individually in single types of barrels, then blend the segregated juices together - kinda like how Canadian whisky is blended. I think this helps with their ability to create one superior expression after another. Seems FourSquare starts off with quality juice with the intent to patiently age it - not try to fix or soup up a subpar batch. I’ve only had one expression so far that didn’t quite measure up - Shibboleth. FourSquare also owns the “Doorly’s” label. You’ll hear some pushing this brand as a daily FourSquare. Almost all of those expressions are only 80 proof, so while the rum is good for being low proof, it will feel thin after having some FourSquare. It’s usually very affordable so they’re good to use in cocktails or sipping juice for lower proof guests.

[@DrumDisciple1]

Nobiliary is my favorite release and I have a closet full of releases. You wouldn't guess it's 100% ex bourbon. It has all the age it needs, while the distillate shines bright. Lots of flocc. Super viscous, but not quite Detente viscous (another favorite).

[@nickp5511]

Sounds great! I’ve had their Indelible and it’s pretty good! I think SLB has a rum named Grander Rum in bourbon cask that’s inexpensive that they really liked?

[@terrencemcdermott5840]

Rum?!?! Man I have haven’t had rum in a long time. Might have to revisit it.

[@BeauPritchett-oq3ud]

Foursquare 2008 is a top 5 bottle in my collection regardless of spirit. And it kicks the $*** out of some pretty sought after whiskeys that i have

[@stuffandwhiskey]

Tell em! Foursquare is top tier.

[@Seoul_of_bourbon]

haha, "hey, ISO Foursquare Nobillary" You might have a better shot at finding a Redoutable, which is also amazing.

[@chrisdunning5481]

That video was fun. You two were all over the place…like herding cats! I immediately started looking for that rum online and best I saw was about $425. My local TW has some of the other variations but all under 100 proof. I am sure they would be good though. Will have to keep an eye out for it. Oh and the best line in the episode? “Peace out brussel sprout”. That was gold.

[@msutton01]

Erin said she was laying down in most of her dreams and you let that go Josh? I'm intrigued by your Foursquare comments. I've heard about this from others then forgot about it. Will try to find.

[@RobertMichaelStewart]

Don't think I've drank any rum neat since high school and it was 151....no wonder I haven't since.... Lol

[@ddurts]

Fight the fomo…. Fight the fomo… I don’t need four square right now, after buying two bottles of bourbon yesterday 😂

[@stuffandwhiskey]

We’re repeating the same mantra ourselves after this one!

[@tjellis1479]

Like the movie BIG....for the rum

[@RumCzar]

Other rum is trash, Erin? Lol, Foursquare is good, but you can get similar flavor from Mount Gay in Barbados, or Appleton in Jamaica, Chairman's Reserve in St. Lucia, or if you want to get a little funky, try Hampden, Worthy Park, Neisson, Barbancourt, the list goes on. Rum is the new whiskey! (tho personally i rather enjoy unaged funkbombs like Rumfire and Rivers Antoine)

[@JohnSmith-vt5ry]

Hi Erin and Josh. I need your help. I am new to whiskey and love your channel. I do like bourbon and have figured that out. However I just don’t like Scotch and I think it’s the malted barley flavor but not certain. I just tried Kilbrin Irish from Total wines and love the mild grain notes and fresh crisp fruit but the fruit is weak. Can you try this whiskey and then tell me one that is similar on the grain and ABV but has more fruit or sweet flavor?

[@stuffandwhiskey]

That’s not one we’re familiar with or have ever seen before but we’ll keep our eye out for it. Cheers John!

[@andydoherty9908]

When are we getting the tour of your watches.

[@stuffandwhiskey]

There’s a lot of past and present watch photos I’ve taken at my @stuffandwatches Instagram account but always happy to chat watches on a livestream!

[@andydoherty9908]

@@stuffandwhiskey cool, I’ll check it out!

[@wigmaster7894]

Seeing this for $100. Never bought anything over $90 but might have to try it. Been holding off on four square for too long

[@Rickflairshair]

Woooooooooooo. Cant find it cheaper online than $289 a bottle. Now im very interested

[@stuffandwhiskey]

Definitely not worth that! There are other variants out now that are far more reasonable from Foursquare. We haven’t tried them all but some may be even better than this one for all we know. Shibboleth, Touchstone, and 2010 are all floating around in various markets at the moment.

[@Rickflairshair]

@@stuffandwhiskey Thanks for the reply! Its always great to learn about other spirits but my heart belongs to boubons and ryes. But i respect the craftmanship and dedication of destillers of all spirits. Its horse racin season. Lets not judge, but rejoice in a drink. Wooooooooooooooooooooo

[@wanderingmagoo9028]

Great video that'll lead me to spend a lot more money :) did you ever find a bottle of this?

[@stuffandwhiskey]

Luckily we did!

[@877-MASH-NOW]

RUM CHEERS 😮

[@raymonddonahue7282]

Where can I find it.

[@stuffandwhiskey]

We’re doing a fair bit of legwork to find it ourselves but Foursquare does have a new release called Touchstone that we’ve tried that’s markedly better than this. It should be findable in any market where Foursquare is available.

[@jamesbroadfoot5269]

@@stuffandwhiskey So you guys like Touchstone better than Nobiliary?? Touchstone is $150 in my market so I might have to pull the trigger!

[@robschoenung9543]

Looks like the only Foursquare in OH-IO is 2010 Barbados for $90. Have you guys had it?

[@stuffandwhiskey]

We haven’t had the 2010 vintage but all of the yearly vintage series that we’ve tried have been very good. Not quite *this* good, but very good.

[@robschoenung9543]

​@@stuffandwhiskey You guys are the best. The quitting drinking video hit home.

[@aprilbrown8081]

The best rum I’ve found nearby in Ohio is the Plantation XO 20th Anniversary. I’ve got a few Foursquares on my list to look for outside of our borders, but I always forget and get lost in the whiskey section.

[@LeatherDaddy97]

Foursquare are the kings of rum as far as im concerned. Never had anything from them i didnt like

[@stuffandwhiskey]

We’ve had a few we liked, but this one we loved. It’s a pipe dream to think we’ll find a bottle this far past release but here’s to hoping.

[@LeatherDaddy97]

@@stuffandwhiskey therell be more releases

[@francisrizzo1529]

Erin: "I'm horizontal in every dream" 95% of male viewers: "HEY NOW!" hahaha, RIP your inbox S&W...

[@stuffandwhiskey]

😂😂

[@joegibson4946]

Wait! You guys really don't know how rum is made? It's distilled pretty much like whiskey is distilled but they mostly use either sugar cane or molasses to make it. I will say some of my favorite rums are distilled in Barbados, but Foursquare is not one of them. Also, like whiskey, rum made in different distilleries and different geographic location all taste different. My current favorites are rum made in Hawaii and in Venezuela.

[@stuffandwhiskey]

Speaking more to the differences in how variations of rum are made based on country. Barbados certainly seems to be a great place for rum producers.

[@arbeckWA]

I'm curious what rums from Barbados you like outside of Foursquare. Mount Gay is solid, but is really close to the Foursquare made products and I believe a worse value. There is the West Indies Rum Distillery, but they're owned by Plantation and most of the products you can get from there have way too much sugar added. There's also St. Nicholas Abbey, but very little of their rum is exported and for a long time they were sourcing their aged product from Foursquare (Anything 8 years or under should be their own distillate now).

[@joegibson4946]

@@arbeckWA Plantation 20th Anniversary, Doorly's 12 Year Old, R.L. Seal 10 Year Old are good sipping rums. There is nothing wrong with Foursquare except I wouldn't spend the money on it when there are rums I've had that I liked just as much for half the cost. Bonus: One of my favorite mixing rums was Cockspur 5 Star.

[@joegibson4946]

@@stuffandwhiskey True. I also think the terroir where the sugar cane is grown is part of the differences in some rums. I've noticed all Barbados rums are similar in some ways and the differ from Jamaican and Puerto Rico rums.

[@arbeckWA]

@@joegibson4946 Doorly's and RL Seale are great values. They're made by Foursquare, but have slightly less pot still in the blend. I always have one of them around and use the 5 year for mixing. I have an aversion to Plantation products due to them trying to change the definition of Barbados rum. Cockspur is a great choice, but since it's made at WIRD and the distillery got purchased by Plantation, it's unclear how long they will continue to make it.

[@phoneman9613]

I have a rum for you . Did you say you're in Nashville?

[@stuffandwhiskey]

You’ve got us intrigued! And we are Nashville just a few miles from downtown.

[@phoneman9613]

@@stuffandwhiskey I am in Knoxville . My brother has a distillery in Arizona. He has some good rum . He won an award for his 10 year rum last year in London.

[@joncohorn1020]

Some of the exceptional cask releases are really, really good. I love a lot of different rums, but these will appeal to bourbon drinkers who don't really like rum too.

[@andrewmainprice2179]

You don't need to spend £150 to get a good rum

[@martyneary3501]

These Bourbon channels kill me. I can't imagine limiting myself to just bourbon and rye. There are unbelievable Rums, Tequilas, Gins, Mezcals, Raicillas, Armagnacs, Cognacs, etc. But you have to get as deep into it as you do the bourbons. For example, there is an entire underworld of very rare and expensive Chartreuse. If I just had one evening to fry your brain, I'd start with La Veneosa Sierra del Tigre Raicilla. It smells a little like blue cheese and tastes like berries with a whisp of smoke. Or any tequila from Cascahuin is not the same product as crap like Don Julio 1942 or Clase Azul. My point- a lot of people think they don't like Rums, Tequilas, etc. Because they just don't know. But, I HAVE been drinking for almost 50 years. Wild Turkey 101 was my go to in the early 1980s...

[@bobbalkovec]

Pussers 15 yr old Rum. Best Rum I've ever tasted.

[@Josh_Stringer]

Nail polish. Acetone. Stinky feet. Y'alls last couple of videos have had, hmm...interesting descriptions by Erin.

[@stuffandwhiskey]

That’s her style! Whatever comes to top of mind. Always makes for a good time. 😂