The Best & Worst Gaming Laptops of 2023 at CES!

[@JarrodsTech]

Check out all the new 2023 gaming laptops next: kzbin.info/aero/PLFBbwFM8jIbMIiSz2hPYgHQYHKEJQd3BV

[@irrel3vant4545]

do you know when will be actually able to buy them for example MSI ones?

[@j.silver]

Will you be making a review on Acer's new Swift X14 because according to Linus Tech Tips that it comes with a RTX 4060 or 70 so technically it would be considered a gaming laptop, and a really budget one at that good for casual gaming.

[@fundemort]

So which are the best and the worst again?

[@JarrodsTech]

@@irrel3vant4545 February, according to Nvidia.

[@JarrodsTech]

@@fundemort All of them. I talk about the ones that I think will and will not be good as we go.

[@RhodesyYT]

Cant wait to not afford these😭

[@johntuazon8114]

😹😹😹😹

[@Luka_Nogalo]

There's still the option to sell organs, your firstborn child or just start a drug empire..

[@RhodesyYT]

@@Luka_Nogalo Walter White

[@kontor170]

**starts to wait faster**

[@VaydaladaVodalada]

These comments are on every single video. We do not give a shit that you are poor.

[@nashiplier3066]

These laptops are amazing, unfortunately my wallet doesn’t agree

[@user-lr6hw4dq4t]

Nice one 👍

[@dissectingdiy]

Do they have pricing yet? I went to Asus and it just says learn more. When do they release.

[@Mobiltelekomnet]

@@dissectingdiy it will not be cheap, i would buy last gen

[@deilusi]

A lot of them are just rainbow puke. What if I want 16 cores for work? I need to pay for those things, and literally no one would give me 16 blessed 7945HX cores without useless bling.

[@harriswone4215]

Asus just makes crap,with a cringe design

[@deathstarr109]

I’m so glad that so many laptop makers are adopting the 16:10 aspect ratio. There’s not much in terms of disadvantages and that extra vertical screen space allows someone like me to take better advantage of its productivity uses while still allowing a great gaming experience

[@tekeagle2136]

True. As an IT student, 16:10 is great for web design and coding. It also allows a larger screen on a smaller chassis.

[@aspeartrevis6306]

4060 laptop < 4050 desktop, 4070 laptop < 4060 desktop, 4080 laptop < 4070 desktop, 4090 laptop < 4070 ti desktop. Another one: 4060 laptop specs < 4050 desktop specs, 4070 laptop specs < 4060 desktop specs, 4080 laptop specs < 4070 desktop specs, 4090 laptop specs =< 4080 desktop specs. Anybody don't buy this shit.

[@immortallix]

I don't mind having some bezels of it means a better Webcam

[@danal8246]

@@tekeagle2136 Aye fellow it wassup

[@TheMuffinMan86]

i disagree, 16:9 is essentially the standard aspect ratio by today's standards. letterbox annoys me on videos.

[@Profato]

You mentioned what Razers value proposition is now. To me, their build quality has always been what sets them apart. And now finally we've moved past 2015 screens (in terms of brightness) on the Blades.

[@korober]

Could you explain? why is it past?

[@rubalskiy]

​@@korober because 16:10 became more popular nowadays, otherwise their screens are fine

[@Profato]

@@rubalskiy "Otherwise their screens are fine" - nope. 300 nits of brightness makes them unusable in just a somewhat bright work area. Now we finally have 16:10 and brighter screens.

[@gakwayadavid1558]

@@Profato And now there screens are the only ones that can switch between native 4k to native 1080p.... This is very important... Plus with larger battery now with in the range of 90 and 95 wh ..... when you want to save on battery... switch to 1080p ... with light load... then you are sure you have beyond 9hr battery life...

[@shashankkhatri5523]

@@Profato STFU no one in their right mind is going to buy a high end laptop from a mouse pad company

[@JustJoshTech]

Excellent video mate!

[@lucutes2936]

Fake

[@baseendje5763]

On 16" Oled not existing: Asus seems to have found them as they have multiple laptops coming out with 16" 120Hz Oled displays, though they might be marketed more towards content creation.

[@r1pperduck]

I dont see a point in high hz laptop gaming on old tn panels. Who is buying a laptop to play competitive shooters? The 4k oled options look sooo much better and play regular games fine, since most AAA games are made for 60hz, and plays fast paced shooters good enough to not feel at a disadvantage. The lack of full keyboard is more of a disadvantage.

[@TheAgentAssassin]

My 2016 Alienware 13inch laptop has OLED 1440p touch 1060gpu . I can't find any laptop modern version that would be similar. The closest is the 13inch RAZER 2020 1080p Oled WITH 1650 TI I just want a 13inch touch screen laptop OLED with i7 or amd and a 4060 gpu The RAZER 15 Oled 240hz is a dream machine , but alas no touch screen , i can live without it

[@S1RLANC3]

I don’t know, after seeing their mini led, I can say I’m happy.

[@joelconolly5574]

My favourites are the Acer Helios 18, Scar and Strix G18, Alienware M18, Raider GE78 and Aorus 17X. Honourable mention is the Stealth 16 and TUF A16. I have to give HP the L. They just did a refresh. Here i was hoping for a better redesign.

[@AboodyM4n]

So your favorites are basically the biggest laptops and i agree👍

[@_dwSen5]

And im still here using ge72 😂

[@derpynoob1392]

I love the g14 from Msi it’s light it’s powerful it has a good screen and good keyboard trackpad and it’s just so well rounded

[@sumanstephen109]

@@_dwSen5 My 2013 heavily tortured GE60 2PC Apache still breathing.

[@reformierende_person]

wait what did all laptops implement 16:10 aspect ratio?

[@LightsEnd304]

I liked how you briefly broke down the MSI product tiers. They have so many sometimes it’s tough to tell what’s marketed toward budget vs premium

[@ZeroXcuses]

Agreed. I go to their website and I'm utterly confused, lol. Looking to replace my Apache Pro GE72.

[@tizurl]

I’m really looking forward for benchmarks. I need them to better choose what my new laptop is gonna be

[@KindaKin7]

Asus seems to pack the most power rn. MSI coming second and I'm excited to see what Alienware will have this year as they've had a rough few years. Lenovo really did disappoint, especially on the pro 7. The only new thing that the 2023 pro 7 has is the A.I thing if I'm not wrong ? The 5 pro just had a lid change which is alr I guess, just wish they'd have come out with a surprise. I'm very excited for the M16s release and also it's STRIX series, wish it had gone AMD though. Just for a change.

[@Petrrii]

It's a laptop not a phone:/What do you expect so revolutionary?

[@KindaKin7]

@@Petrrii the looks, the specs , the changes, the build, the internals from last gen? How the hell you even went from laptop to phone comparisons has me bamboozled.

[@HelloThere-lo3qi]

But the display quality too 😞 need wqhd

[@saekka8537]

Interesting lineup this year, I'm looking forward to Asus, MSI and Alienware laptops the most. But it's disappointing that there isn't that much AMD laptops and Legion-laptops won't have a mini LED or OLED display options. Hopefully there will be AMD laptops later this year.

[@bhargavshatrughna489]

Exactly my thoughts. Very less AMD.

[@souvikmondal6161]

Very less amd this year. Every company is going with intel hx processors.

[@nhatanhvu8847]

is that a problem ? I more fan of AMD but as a beginner I do no understand it. Is that true that intel always gets hotter than AMD?

[@idan678]

@@nhatanhvu8847 yea intel probably pay them to use their trash cpus just like in the 2000's

[@johndoe9575]

G14 and m16 does

[@ShebanFPV]

Looking forward to benchmarks. I reckon Asus will be the killer option.

[@Peizxcv]

ASUS always skims on cooling so always performed worse comparing with other laptops using the same hardware

[@ShebanFPV]

@@Peizxcv I have different experience. Most probably performance/cooling varies from model to model. So which one in your opinion No.1 in terms of cooling and performance?

[@souvikmondal6161]

@@ShebanFPV what do you use?

[@ShebanFPV]

@@souvikmondal6161 GE76 11UH

[@Peizxcv]

@@ShebanFPV MSI and Lenovo will have best cooling. XMG probably next followed by the rest of the brands with Gigabyte last.

[@KatRollo]

2020s HP Omen was a step in the right direction for the company. Too bad they can't seem to keep the momentum. :(

[@Ph3NiX80]

I have the Hp 2020 with RTX 2070 and it’s a good all-rounder. But we need a new chassis

[@ACE112ACE112]

@@Ph3NiX80 does it have a mux Switch

[@fahreziaulia5780]

honestly hp doesnt care about their gaming line up, but my hp omen 2018 until now works fine and never had any issues. waiting for the new model tho

[@insertnamehere8121]

The Dell G line isnt bad at all for those looking for a respectable budget gaming laptop

[@aaronwlkr]

I'd be curious to hear more about the HP OMEN laptops, it's hard to find reviews on them other than from people that bought one for personal use.

[@ditz3nfitness]

Exited about those Asus ones! Went and bought a minimum spec laptop for my bachelors and will try and resell that once those badboys comes out!

[@sachinmajotra9665]

I did the same thing

[@aspeartrevis6306]

4060 laptop < 4050 desktop, 4070 laptop < 4060 desktop, 4080 laptop < 4070 desktop, 4090 laptop < 4070 ti desktop. Another one: 4060 laptop specs < 4050 desktop specs, 4070 laptop specs < 4060 desktop specs, 4080 laptop specs < 4070 desktop specs, 4090 laptop specs =< 4080 desktop specs. Anybody don't buy this shit.

[@LAFadhel]

I agree with your point on Razer on how it's heavier, Razer was meant to be Sleek but portable. But I think the Blade 14 will become the new Blade 15. 16:10 Screen, bigger body overall which means better cooling and *fingers crossed* more upgradability. I just hope they don't screw it up. 16/18in will be for those who want a true desktop replacement, the 14in will be the all rounder.

[@Everyday-man]

I have the 2021 blade 14 and it's amazing. But saying that, having the option to have it a little bit thicker to have a full powered GPU. As there older ones like mine and even last year is only 100watt GPU... this makes a difference.. I'd jump at it, not sure why a few people are saying other wise. He didn't go into much detail. They will have full powered GPU, better cooling, especially the 18 which has a third fan. I think the 16 would be a great middle, becuase I've had the 14 for over a year and love it.. but when trying to do productively stuff, the 14 screen can be pretty cramped and hard to read fine print. I'd say the 16 would be really nice for both gaming and work. For me, I would be happy with a little bit thicker. It's the build quality that I love, the steel chassis! Saying that, I got mine $1200 off, if it wasn't for that. I probably would have done MSI again

[@LAFadhel]

@@Everyday-man I can completely agree with all your points. The 14in is portability but does get cramped, I do hope by giving it a 16:10 screen this year *fingers crossed* it’ll make the overall body bigger giving it better cooling and maybe better upgradability.

[@grumpyoldwizard]

I have watched your channel and listened to you for quite awhile now. You calmly present your observations, which I appreciate. I think your channel is excellent.

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks!

[@andriizakrevskyi5335]

@@JarrodsTech Hi jarrod. Do you think it is necessary to calibrate gaming laptop batteries to decrease a wear level and preserve battery overall?

[@GerryReid]

Agreed Razer was a fiasco this year when you see the costs of their now heavier and thicker 16 and 18, and the other product set ,14, 15, 17 is now obsolete, not even a 40 series refresh just left to die, what were they thinking?

[@lukejordan8929]

I love the insomnium shirt, I listen to winters gate all the time and was shocked to see you wearing it!

[@Shahi-bangalah_1352]

Bro can you make a list on the best gaming laptops under 1200 dollar. In my country,the price of gaming laptops are sky rocketed. Tax behind laptops are high as 35%!.

[@Nafeels]

I’m disappointed there’s even less AMD Advantage laptops this year. By far my favourite of the bunch was the Delta 15, which was HUGELY underrated. My brother did got the low-end Victus 15 with the RX6500, which I of course persuaded hard and ended up saving him a couple hundred dollars than buying a similarly spec’d Nvidia+Intel combo. Making things worse was Southeast Asia’s stock and pricing strategy which was even more outrageous considering their love for those Nvidia+Intel things.

[@Supcharged]

MSI didn't even make a single Ryzen 6000 series laptop last year.

[@joelconolly5574]

SEA for the win. And yes, unless you live in Singapore, some stocks sre difficult to get.

[@Nafeels]

@@Supcharged I wish they did a refresh on the Delta, along with a RX6750 (if that’s even possible?). As I recall, only Dell and ASUS did some refresh on their AMD Advantage laptops.

[@Nafeels]

@@joelconolly5574 AMEN. Singapore always got the good stuff though.

[@anibalhuneeus]

Absolutely agree. I have the G15 Advantage edition with a 6800M which is still a monster and I would've loved to see a continuation of something like that

[@victorw.330]

So glad I got the 2022 Lenovo legion 5i with rtx 3070 ti on sale a few months back! 40 series is amazing but I will be just fine 😁

[@josephj6521]

40 series will eat your wallet too.

[@MadBlazer89]

Such a shame so few AMD advantage laptops announced. Like the case of the G14: I've seen a lot of people cheering for Nvidia GPUs. When they will see the prices the grin will be wiped of their faces. It would be nice if these manufacturers would offer the option to configure the hardware ourselves. Like I get it, some people who want mobility do work that require CUDA, but these are gaming laptops after all, and for gaming Radeon GPUs are fine too and also less expensive.

[@ACE112ACE112]

4:45 anyone else like the flat back design more compared to the exhaust vents sticking out?

[@cameronbosch1213]

I think the 2022 model was the ultimate laptop. The 2023 ruined everything good about Legions...

[@nearchance]

Nice video! As someone with high mobility while casual gaming in between, I can't wait to see which one will be the best 14" gaming laptop...

[@benjisjs1535]

There are definitely 16" OLED screens at 120Hz out in the market. Eg. ASUS Vivobook Pro, ZenBook Pro, and Proart Studiobook

[@JarrodsTech]

True. I mention at 5:57 that it's not happening in gaming laptops.

[@tekeagle2136]

These screens are only found on laptops designed for content creation, not gaming. That is why my Lenovo Legion 7i Gen 7 2022 does not have one, even though the specs sheet shows the option. Weird. However, some IPS screens have gotten really good over the years.

[@IITheGoodLifeII]

Yeah, but I think all of them lack g-sync.

[@teddym2808]

MSI's insistence of not offering advanced optimus cause they are too tight to pay the license fee is going to eventually bite them in the butt. What a shame as they have so much else going for them. I can't believe I am saying this but the Razers look interesting this year. Asus 18" or Acer 18" have piqued my interest the most though. Let's hope they truly deliver.

[@mohamed_saaiff7732]

what do you reccomend for gaming? rog strix g16 or zephyrus g16

[@kadam_official]

Hey, the 7i Pro had a miniLED option on the pdf datasheet, last week! Display 16" WQXGA (2560 x 1600) MiniLED; 16:10 (165 Hz / 3 ms Response Time / 100% sRGB / 1100 nits / Up to VESA DisplayHDR™ 1000 Certified / Dolby Vision® Support / NVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Support / TUV Rheinland Certified / X-Rite™ Pantone Certified*) but now the link 404 What happened?

[@JtwasLuck]

I am most excited about Razer, IDK what you are talking about. They increased the thickness in order to accommodate for the full 175W TGP. On top of that the Blade 16 has a Dual Mode display that gives you the best of both worlds. 4K@120Hz or 1080@240Hz, nothing beats having those options in a laptop. These new 4090 laptops are going to match desktop 4080s so most have had to go up in size which is why we see 16” being so significant this year. The Blade is finally no longer skimped, having a much lower TGP vs the competition really didn’t make sense.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Exactly. I am more disappointed in Razer s**tshow of customer support.

[@kaij5453]

the new Asus Strix 16/18 design looks clean! I hope they worth the wait, but prolly still very pricy lol

[@suyini734]

Yeah I want to get the strix 16, I checked on their website and there sister the 4090 option

[@killerra]

I'm waiting for the price on the 18 with the 4080, hopefully it isn't above $3k USD!

[@suyini734]

@@killerra why is everyone going for the 18" I don't get it. It's too big

[@tadams587]

The Latest Asus Duo is stuck at 2K once again. What happened to the promise of 4K 120/FHD 240 hybrid monitors. Why was the concept ditched shortly after the first few releases of Duos sold from last year Duos? The whole last year, from launch, the 4K Duo model everybody wanted was sold out & never restocked. Only 2K variants were shown available.

[@Synkhan]

Pricing was the issue. Basically, the screen made the price go up too much, but folks werent interested in buying them. Seems in the laptop scene, higher refresh rates at a range of about $1500 - $2000 is the sweet spot. You go above that and its not a big seller, but more of a hyper niche product. Theres also the fact that having 4K 120 screens does put pressure on the battery.

[@tadams587]

@@Synkhan Pressure on the battery seems redundant, I wouldn't be gaming on the Laptop's battery a lot anyhow. people usually do that while its plugged in, lol

[@Synkhan]

@@tadams587 Trust me, I completely agree with you there, but it is still something that is usually considered. Companies dont want to be that one company with the laptop that cant last less than 3 hours off battery. Take a look at most of them, 3 hours is like the bottom of the barely they are willing to take. Understand that I mean general use, not gaming. A gaming laptops components still utilise a ton of power even when not gaming. But thats just an assumption from my end. There may be other reasons this isnt the norm.

[@jlb4685]

Actually butthurt Lenovo don’t have a mini LED option in the L7. I don’t want a razer blade and ASUS putting every single port around the sides is a massive turn off. Ugh 2023 is a bit poop for what I want tbh.

[@antondovydaitis2261]

I am looking forward to seeing what HP does, as it will likely be more budget friendly.

[@TheAgentAssassin]

I gotta admit the HP 13inch spectre 11th gen intel had a cool setting that it didn't boil your balls while being on your lap

[@insertnamehere8121]

If you're looking for a respectable budget line, you really should check out the Dell G line (ex: G15)

[@assaultedzlayer8393]

Such a disappointment from lenovo 😥, they have been dominating the throne for the last 2 years. I guess it's time for another brand to take the crown...

[@AMBITION6176]

I think Lenovo is just a bad brand and i see that most of laptops this years deserve to take the crown 👑

[@SirRFI]

@@AMBITION6176 Why is it bad brand? In general

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@SirRFI They were really good in the past, I mean, just last year, I thought they were the best overall option (even Jarrod thought so as well), but this year, they seem to be reversing the good parts of their laptops...

[@DolphinsAreBetterThanHumans]

Its good to see laptop manufacturers giving mux switch,high quality 100% DCI-P3 screens,Wifi 6E,type c charging even in the lowest budget models. Right now even laptops upto ~1200 are shipped with garbage screens.

[@heroofharo]

Lenovo moving back to 4 type A ports is a win to me. I literally need to use a hub because my mouse and headset use both A ports, so if I need to use a thumb drive, or anything else, I'm screwed. Meanwhile I only need 1-2 C ports personally.

[@d1kgaws12]

You can buy usb a to c adapters, and they’re not extremely expensive, but they’re still not free.

[@heroofharo]

@@d1kgaws12 I'd rather just have sufficient ports to start with rather than having to carry something with me. My 4 port usb A hub was like $15. I'm still screwed if I forget it,.

[@ACE112ACE112]

what headphones??

[@cameronbosch1213]

The problem is that I think 3 USB-C & 3 USB-A would have perfect. The Legion 7 chassis and its ports but with the right side USB-C being USB-A instead would have been perfect. Unfortunately, Legion just took a really bad turn.

[@heroofharo]

@@ACE112ACE112 My home set is a G pro X wireless, my travel set is a corsair HS80.

[@deordered.]

If Asus G14 isn't full AMD, it's not worth it. The experience that I've with G14 2022 is something else, I never expected a windows laptop to run with this level of performance and battery life. Whilst on Linux it's a different beast!

[@SirRFI]

Apparently, recently there are issues with AMD GPU drivers and "Adrenaline Software" on Windows. How is your experience in general and within last few days? If I recall correctly, ASUS has their own version of drivers or something.

[@MadBlazer89]

Yeah I've seen a lot of people cheering for Nvidia GPUs. When they will see the prices the grin will be wiped of their faces. It would be nice if these manufacturers would offer the option to configure the hardware ourselves. Like I get it, some people who want mobility do work that require CUDA, but these are gaming laptops after all, and for gaming Radeon GPUs are fine too and less expensive.

[@boblablaw4857]

I love the concept of the x16 flow. I'm hoping at some point they release one with a mid tier gpu for a reasonable price. I'm tempted to buy into the ecosystem, since the external gpus are backwards compatible. A bit of nice upgradeability for a laptop. And the form factor is killer.

[@MrKolozal]

What I(and most other people I'm guessing) really wants to know is the pricing of the laptops. It's annoying as hell not knowing if I should buy something now or wait

[@Capitalistic_Commie]

Not a single miniLED 16" AMD 7000 based laptop except for the 2023 ROG Zephyrus Duo 16 ?! Very unfortunate to see, anyone noticed another laptop with such specs?

[@OnlyCitrus]

Looks like a great year head for the laptop market. I hope they deliver.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Disagree. It would be if OEMs other than Alienware actually cared to put AMD in 16/18 inch laptops.

[@bow3i]

Fantastic roundup, thanks Jarrod!

[@JarrodsTech]

Glad you liked it!

[@HMZ991]

Guess not waiting for legion 7i 2023 was a good choice. Got mine legion 7i 2022 on September on big discount.

[@vasubawa]

Props to Asus for making the flow EGPU backwards compatible

[@airanikurniaputri1334]

The 720p camera on the msi top tier is wouldn't escaped from jarrod mention xd

[@RIPxBlackHawk]

It would be interesting to know how laptops are competing for creative applications such as blender and co

[@corperus]

Can’t wait for the review. After being ripped off’ 700€ for a secondhand old gaminglaptop, I can’t wait to finally get a proper one 6 years later. Hope to make the best choice possible.

[@lukaszk8025]

As a happy owner of Asus ROG M16 (2022 with it 12th gen), I'm really interested and can't wait to see reviews of the upcoming new one (3 fans design) :)

[@aspeartrevis6306]

4060 laptop < 4050 desktop, 4070 laptop < 4060 desktop, 4080 laptop < 4070 desktop, 4090 laptop < 4070 ti desktop. Another one: 4060 laptop specs < 4050 desktop specs, 4070 laptop specs < 4060 desktop specs, 4080 laptop specs < 4070 desktop specs, 4090 laptop specs =< 4080 desktop specs. Anybody don't buy this shit. 4060 laptop < 3070 laptop

[@UncleMisu]

The advertisement budget for asus this year must have been crazy they bought so many youtubers to advertise basic upgrade designs and features as massive changes...

[@TheEverything100]

thank you jarrod for working hard, summarizing what happened at CES for lazy ppl like me xD

[@rsjet]

Thanks Jarrod... I'm one of the people that are disappointed in no OLED options. But why hasn't Alienware included at least the Mini-LED options in its laptops? Surprised you didn't mention that as you did for Lenovo. Also, the 16inch 120hz OLED screens exist as some comments mentioned they can be found on content creation laptops. Eitherway, please give us reviews of these Mini-LED screens, especially the Razer dual mode 4k one. We want to know how they compare to the deep blacks and gorgeous colors of OLEDs. Thanks!

[@tekeagle2136]

The lack of OLED or miniLED is a disadvantage on my Lenovo Legion 7i Gen 7 2022. However, it is still an excellent IPS screen.

[@vali69]

I wonder if lenovo will jump on the 18 inch band wagon in the future by bringing back the old 17in legion 7 chassis and improving that design.

[@wojciechglac9334]

Lenovo fucked up on the Legion Pro 7, they should leave the 2022 design, and update to intel 13th gen and RTX 4000 series with Mini Led screen. Success guaranteed. My personal pick now is Blade 16 or Scar 16. Shoutout to Jarrod for doing a great job for the gaming community 💥

[@cameronbosch1213]

I agree. The 2022 chassis was nearly perfect. And now they threw it away for... whatever this gaming centric design is. I hope that 2022 chassis becomes the Legion 9, because otherwise Lenovo won't be getting any more of my money...

[@jioza]

@@cameronbosch1213 which notebook.are you saying, in 2022? Legion 7 with rtx 3070-3080?

[@Shahi-bangalah_1352]

So,which is the best budget among this?

[@Ali13445]

After looking at XMG’s pricing, It seems like we should abandon Nvidia this year. This is just disrespectful and disgusting from Nvidia

[@unnikrisnans6948]

This is awesome. I just returned my X17 R2 and awaiting refund from Dell. Hopefully I will be able to get the updated version once it launches.

[@SirRFI]

Lenovo Poland promoted CES 2023 stuff, while they still don't sell Legion 7 from 2022. At this ratio NVIDIA will earlier announce RTX 4080 Ti.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Good luck. I would say the AMD models are going to never to come outside of Asia...

[@SirRFI]

@@cameronbosch1213 If you meant Legion 7 Gen 7 AMD - it's available in some EU countries. They also intend to release it in Poland as per Lenovo PSREF and customer support. No idea what takes them so long though.

[@cameronbosch1213]

@SirRFI No, I was referring to the Pro 7 (the 8th gen). I actually have a Legion 7 7th grn with AMD, and I love it. Shame it was often backordered and never got custom built options...

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@jioza Feels rock solid.

[@Bahnzii]

@jarrod you mentioned no Mini LED for Lenovo. Unless I'm reading everything wrong, their top tier Legion 7i Pro will have a Mini LED option. Reading from their spec sheet, it will be: Legion Pro 7i_16IRX8H - 16" WQXGA (2560 x 1600) MiniLED; 16:10 (165 Hz / 3 ms Response Time / 100% sRGB / 1100 nits

[@ChrisSmith-rd6dm]

Local shop where I live are already advertising on their websites the higest spec legion I can see is £3999 only screen option is wqxga quad HD (2560 x 1600) 240hz 3ms response time with overdrive 100% rbg 500 nits.. Might look to see if any other shops are advertising other options

[@tekeagle2136]

I know, it is weird. The specs sheet shows it, but it is not available, at least yet.

[@Howlfeather]

They also said MiniLED would come to Gen7 7i, but it never came

[@cameronbosch1213]

@Kyradeen Howlfeather Exactly. The only screen that was sold was the 165 hz screen from 2021. I wish that there was that 240 hz screen from this year but with a MiniLED screen for those who want a bit more color gamut or HDR support. But they seem to be doing nearly everything wrong this year. I'm not hopeful for Legion this year, but I guess we'll have to see what the rumored Legion 9 brings...

[@DDarwin_]

I'm looking to buy a new top gaming laptop for august. Do you suggest to wait or trying to buy right now?

[@JoshCravesTech]

Thank goodness Alienware is changing their software. All these updates from so many manufacturers is exciting!

[@anilnair2911]

So do you think they will launch exactly on the specified dates? Or will they get postponed?

[@EnzoFoove]

Thank you for this! So overwhelmed with the amount of new products

[@theguard1]

Lenovo even already offers a 1000 nit 240Hz VRR mini-LED option on their 2022 Legion 7 series in other markets. The fact that don't offer it here is pathetic.

[@aninfinitemindofmusicandreams]

1. ASUS G14 2. Acer Predator Helios 16 3. ASUS M16 4. Legion Pro 7 5. Acer Nitro 16 These are my top 5 so far. Will definitely be buying a 2023 G14 with either a 4050 or 4060. It'll sit right next to my 2022 Legion 5i as a secondary laptop and be my main travel laptop.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Legion Pro 7 will likely only be offered in Asia. So it's likely DOA.

[@EnochGitongaKimathi]

This year seems to be focused on having laptops that are desktop replacement capable of handling full desktop CPUs and GPUs. While they are portable devices they are not meant for extreme mobility. You can easily move them from desk to desk, room to room but they are not for carrying with you when on the move and on the go outside. The good thing is this year’s sizes and weight will only shrink further and present an exciting starting point for what the future holds with each new advanced process node. My pick from CES is more a creator laptop but very capable of gaming, the ASUS ZenBook Pro 16X OLED the Supernova SOM has me curious.

[@cameronbosch1213]

There's literally no good AMD Ryzen option yet, apart from the m16, which does appear to be delayed for the Ryzen models (but at least they have them). And to think DELL is the one bringing AMD, when they were Intel's biggest customer! 😳

[@costa2150]

yes that zen book looks like it can crank out some machine learning and heavy image rendering tasks too

[@EnochGitongaKimathi]

@@costa2150 I'm hoping AMD Phoenix Laptops will offer premium designs. It will be good to see if there is an advantage to having dedicated die area on the chip for the XDNA AI architecture. Microsoft hinted at CES that they want to have deep AI integration in Windows "12".

[@yusufziyaay1257]

Oled vs mini led wich is better ?

[@levygaming3133]

OLED has better blacks and contrast overall, at the cost of burn in being a consideration. (I’m sure that it’s better than it was before, but it’s still somewhat inherent to the physics of OLED) Mini LED is just an IPS* screen with a better backlight. They get brighter than OLED (most of the mini leds I’ve seen announced are 1000 nits, whereas OLED last year was ~500 nits). You don’t have to worry about burn in. Cons of mini led would be worse blacks and less insane contrast. Mini led might have haloing in dark scenes, that’s something we’ll have to see when Jarred does his reviews.

[@yusufziyaay1257]

@@levygaming3133 thx

[@junhoyeon]

Nice video! love your contents!

[@passionpourelegance]

Why the shift from AMD to Intel?

[@mcelebi98]

Asus and acer were the best at this CES. But unless the prices get lower i am not thinking about buy any of them.

[@amruzaky4939]

I still own my 2019 Legion, and personally, I have no issues with newer design have only two type C ports. But, man.. no Mini-LED configs still? Really bummer, but I guess my old buddy will stay with me for a little longer then.

[@oubdamarthial6241]

Always some quality contents 👌🏽👌🏽

[@theorang389]

I'm with either IPS or mini-LED, but not with OLED, cause of burn-in, making it inconvenient to use.

[@miguelangeloeiramartins6241]

Really excited to see how the G16 performs, seems like the perfect laptop to replace my old Nitro 5. Unfortunately it will probably be out of my budget, even if I wait for black Friday deals.

[@billjoe4674]

It's on sale :p

[@renemadsen809]

I think I made a mistake buying a asus tuf a17 / rtx 3070ti 140w / ryzen 7 6800h / 16gb ddr5 / 1tb m2 ssd / full hd ips 144h screen for 1400€. I could return it, whats your opinion?

[@yera1239]

Im in the same boat, except with the acer helios 300 same specs except 240Hz QHD screen and i7-12700H, thinking return to get Helios 16 with 4080, 32GB ram and Mini LED display but I’m afraid it will cost me $1000 more even at Black Friday pricing lol.

[@nicecarphill]

Hey Jarrod, great video on how I won't be able to afford any of this untill CES 2050 😅😭 Untill then I was thinking of an idea for a video, buying a laptop from Ali express, most preferably the colorful x15 one

[@ravenmcclaw1725]

With the new CPU and with the combination of the new RTX4000 Series the TDP has sunk up to 40-50W and still outperforms any last Gen GPUs, so the heat reduction fell massively and the efficiency increased. What an achievement, this year I will surely buy a new Gaming Notebook.

[@SirRFI]

"USB-C is the future" and yet I don't own a single device that uses it.

[@LMPtm]

Lenovo went from super-hyped to now just meh.. they even removed the fingerprint scanner on the 7 series.

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Really like what ASUS is doing and has been doing lately.

[@HuntaKiller91]

Down the road maybe there's Phoenix point apu only I need thin and light on the cheap

[@Snakebloke]

Hey Jarrod! I'm a game developer and always assumed a gaming laptop would be ideal for me doing work on the go, but frankly, the RGB and Transformer-like designs put me off. Could you do me a huge favour and reccommend your choice for a laptop with gaming-level specs, that doesn't look ... _gamery_ ... ? Much appreciated! Love your work.

[@ninx6117]

Razer

[@donquaviousiii3943]

Bro I got you the zephyrus duo 16 it has 64 gb of ram rtx 4090 with 165 watts ryzen 9 7945 hx mini led 240hz qhd for and last but not least it has 2 screens for multitasking would prolly be useful for developing Edit: forgot to say it barely has rgb

[@ShebanFPV]

MSI GE series, they don’t look gamery, design IMO is very subtle. RGBs can be turned off completely as well as customized to your needs. ie turnoff rgb bar and leave keyboard at single color.

[@Luka_Nogalo]

Funny, in recent times there are rarely any Laptops I would consider to be "transformer-like" designs. I mean there is now definitely more stealthy office type looking maschines than gamery looking ones. So there is plenty to choose. If money is no consideration you should look into Razer as they really look like MacBooks that were made for gaming but there are so many other options nowadays. Asus g14/g15/g16/M16/x16 Hp omen Gigabyte aero 16/17 Acer predator Triton MSI stealth gs66/16 I just would keep my hands off of Alienware MSI Raider/Titan Gigabyte Aorus Most Lenovos Acer Nitro Asus Tuf/Dash/Scar Because they still look quite gamery

[@janoscoquyt]

Take a look at the 2022 Lenovo Legion Slim 7 maybe, it looks professional imo

[@Throwh]

Hey Jarrod, I came across your channel fairly recently & really appreciate the quality of your content & insight. As someone who lives in a third world country with no official dealers (means that we have to pay for resellers profit margins), could you please consider including a category along the lines of "Value for Money" in your videos? That would be a category that could have certain compromises but would have a relatively lower price. It'd really help us folks out, thanks!

[@ishaqgt946]

Did msi removed gp66 leopard series? 🥺

[@vmafarah9473]

Dont say lower wattage ultra books, without mux switch, high latency as a bad choice, there are professionals who use case is different.

[@JarrodsTech]

Sure, but this is a video on gaming laptops specifically.

[@rajeshbedi]

Hiii Jarrod, just one thing how come rtx 4070M has less cuda than rtx 3070 mobile.. feels strange

[@firisrozley5768]

I might as well wait for the price of 2021 & 2022's gaming laptops to drop. Don't get me wrong, RTX 4000 series mobile graphics card are great but RTX 3000 series mobile graphics card can still perform great in gaming. Not sure if the next Acer Nitro series will eventually remove that extra SSD slot for extra battery life.

[@aspeartrevis6306]

4060 laptop < 4050 desktop, 4070 laptop < 4060 desktop, 4080 laptop < 4070 desktop, 4090 laptop < 4070 ti desktop. Another one: 4060 laptop specs < 4050 desktop specs, 4070 laptop specs < 4060 desktop specs, 4080 laptop specs < 4070 desktop specs, 4090 laptop specs =< 4080 desktop specs. Anybody don't buy this shit. 4060 laptop < 3070 laptop

[@johnmax5652]

VERY BEAUTIFUL CONSTRUCTED VIDEO FOR TECH ITEMS.

[@JarrodsTech]

Glad you liked it

[@souvikmondal6161]

I think the asus strix g16 and g18 have upgradable 2 memory slots because asus in their website say the strix g 16 and g18 support dual channel memory upto 32 gb

[@ShadowsEmperor]

What’s the best brand to buy from?

[@JarrodsTech]

I tend to know think of 'best brand' but best devices/models. A brand can have both excellent and terrible models, so I prefer to check out reviews on laptops in my price/hardware range.

[@Reaversword3D]

Great short Jarrod. The only thing I missed is unlocked bios in the Xmg/Tongfangs. (Although I think MSI Titan haves an "unlocked" bios too)

[@junduan2288]

What do you mean by unlocked bios for gt 77? The power limit for the 2020 model?

[@Reaversword3D]

@@junduan2288 I mean to be able to do overcloking / undervolting, tweak ram memory speed, etc... Directly from bios

[@niebuhr6197]

All high end GP, GE machines from MSI have unlocked bios, though I dont know about crap like Katana or Crosshair.

[@tekeagle2136]

Speaking of advanced BIOS, does anyone know if Lenovo will add one to their 2022 Legions?

[@junduan2288]

@@Reaversword3D I see. Thanks!

[@ViliGiX]

Finally display 16: 10 🤩

[@V1C10US]

I know prices aren't available yet, but some speculation could be a good video topic.

[@JonahBj]

I would love a Zephyrus, exept I can't get over the fact the hot air gets pointed directly on to the screen.

[@Ali13445]

I 100% agree with Jarrod on the Legion 7i. It was the perfect laptop for most people. Now it’s just another average gaming laptop. Disappointing.

[@SensuAudica]

Pretty sure most computers will reach Razer price tags this year, slightly worrying... Did Razer actually manage to sell any laptops in 2022?

[@noname-sk3hl]

Can we have a legit affordable version.

[@thenaturecycle]

Best value laptop category woud be a blast in your channel. Too many different choices and also many very expensive ones...

[@bayuf995]

After seeing benchmarks of AMD cpu (the non X desktop ver.) And see how cool the temperature can be, im somewhat disappointed with the lack of AMD option this year, not everyone needs an intel cpu with higher power limit. Some just wants a cooler and quieter laptop.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Or a laptop with better battery life and not a desktop replacement.