If i did not already have the XF 16-80 F/4 i'd be considering this, the 16-80 turned into my walk around lens (at 80mm and F/4 the DOF is pretty shallow) and is just about bright enough for most things, well bright enough that for 1 more stop of light i am not exchanging
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I don't think it would make sense for you to switch to this Tamron.
@barracuda9762 жыл бұрын
I'm in the same situation. I owe already the xf 16-80f4 and I'd consider this one only als substitution, if my one goes broken.
@metalmick99 Жыл бұрын
I too, have the 16-80 Fujinon, and therefore wouldn't consider switching. I'm a little bemused that Tamron chose to make such a lens, given that (in Australia at least), there's a tendency to often bundle this lens with a body. Locally, the Tamron is also around 30% dearer than the Fujinon.
@RyanKemperinOhio6 ай бұрын
I’ve come so close to buying this lens. It has everything I want - wide aperture, focal range, stabilization…BUT, the deal breakers are no aperture ring on it and the size. I just can’t stick that monster on my xe4. lol.
@jesuslpgc Жыл бұрын
Superb reviews. I already trimmed down my lenses options to the Tamron 11-20 and a Fujinon’s veteran 35mm 1.4. I used to travel with the Fujicrons (23 and 16) paired with either the older not AF Samyang 12mm and/or Laowa’s 9mm. I’m thinking seriously to acquire this 17-70.
@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. Good to hear this was useful.
@neilmacon84112 жыл бұрын
Ok I was saving for the Fuji 16-55 .. but I have the cash to get this now ..gonna pre order 💯
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you are going to like it😀
@BlaxkNobility2 жыл бұрын
Dub fire tune!
@davidsmith37162 жыл бұрын
Bravo! Thank you for the succinct, very nicely done, real world overview. (I also enjoyed getting a little taste of your lovely city)
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@teamhazardous2012 жыл бұрын
I put my preorder in and I can't wait to get it.
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
I hope you'll like it😀
@Tom-Tenerife2 жыл бұрын
Hi dear Matti, I have 16-80 F4 Fujinon. I do not like to operate with it, it because you do not have phisical aperture on the optic particularly using the small XE4. I have an XT4 and an XE4 I have 10-24 F4 too. Both stabilized. I have many prime lenses and I like more to use prime...Greathings from Italy
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@Tom-Tenerife2 жыл бұрын
@@mattisulanto Tamron has not aperture ring like Fujinon 16-80, but good anyway.
@raymondbaddeley6467 Жыл бұрын
Excellent and very useful review thanks.
@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@marklaurendet18612 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice review I purchased the Tamron 18-300 for my X-T4, which is a nice all in one lens for travel. I used to like AF+MF over ride but with the Tamron lenses having the manual focus behind the zoom instead of in front it got moved too easily so i had to disable it. Why they do not put the MF ring in front of the zoom ring I do not know, but that is the main downside for me.
@butti9002 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matti! I'm going to purchase same combo+ X-T30+ Tamron 17-70mm
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I hope you'll like it.
@xmanreturn2 жыл бұрын
Didn't realize this is out
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
Yep, it's out and and you can pre order😀 Should be available around July 8 2022.
@michaelajoseph68562 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@djxcel232 жыл бұрын
Im about to get rid of my fuji 16-55m next week. For this. Only other zoom i get is the sigma when it hopefully comes out at the end of the year
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Sounds like a plan.
@Sticks552 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of selling my 18-55mm for the 16-55mm but now this has made me pause my thought process because the 16-55mm is pricey and pretty heavy for a walk around lens.
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. More choices more pain😀 Anyway, the Tamron is really nice.
@professionalpotato47642 жыл бұрын
The 16-55 is sharper at 16mm and has less aberrations vs the 17-70. But the extra range and OIS is a huge benefit and a worthy trade-off I think. Probably gonna get one.
@lamaludwig14702 жыл бұрын
I have the same Nike cap, it's perfect! Nice lens review btw.
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I don't like that Nike brand logo on the cap, but it's a nice cap😀
@lamaludwig14702 жыл бұрын
@@mattisulanto yes, but it's small at least
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
@@lamaludwig1470 Yes, one reason I bought it😀
@jeabfuksuwan86092 жыл бұрын
Tamron 17-70mm vs 18-300mm or waiting for fuji 18-120 mm... Which lens you should recommend?
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
All three lenses are very different. I think you have to decide which range is best for you and start from there.
@gwier0012 жыл бұрын
Nice review, thank you. I traded in my Fuji 16-80mm lens for the Tamron 17-170mm. I do like the image quality and the f2.8 feature better, although I did like the manual, marked aperture ring on the Fuji. Clearly the camera knows that the Tamron is attached, but are in-camera corrections for the Tamron present and enabled, or do I have to do something in order to get the in-camera corrections for vignetting and geometric distortion? Thanks!
@gwier0012 жыл бұрын
Just to correct and add to above. lens is 17-70mm of course, and the camera is X-T4.
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
I don't remember how it went with that and unfortunately I can't double check it, because the lens was on loan and I have returned it.
@svetlanagrobman34762 жыл бұрын
Thank u for the review. I wonder how it compares with fuji 18-135mmm sharpness wise.
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I have not used that Fujinon and can't comment.
@llIlllllIll2 жыл бұрын
ahhhhhh it looks so huge on the X-T30
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
There are many lenses that look huge😀
@1957PLATO2 жыл бұрын
The reach is very interesting. The size, not so much. Quality seems very ok.
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
It's F2.8 all the way. If you want small, you have to go for something with a slower max aperture.
@ManlyHK1 Жыл бұрын
I am torn between this n the similar Fuji zoom with f4. I love the aperture ring on the Fuji n Tamron’s 2.8. I use it mainly to create cinematic video footage so the bigger aperture is better right? But how much better? Hope u can shed some lights. Thx
@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын
I don't know what you want and how you define better. F4 lets in half as much light as F2.8 and the latter gives you slightly more background blur. I think you need to test both for your video and see which one you like more. Rent both and test.
@stuarttracey2009 Жыл бұрын
Did you forget about the Sigma 18-50 2.8?
@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын
The Fuji version was not yet released when I made the video.
@stuarttracey2009 Жыл бұрын
What would you choose now if you didn't need vibration control/stabilisation?@@mattisulanto
@ossme2 жыл бұрын
Canon as always is left out for such nice lenses from third parties
@barracuda9762 жыл бұрын
Don't complain much. Canon, Nikon and Sony are privileged when we speak about third partners. Fuji starts now with Tamrom and from Sigma there's almost nothing. Viltrox, a little Tokina... For the three bigs, all produce lenses. Ok. It's true that apsc for Canon is almost disappeared,but with the R7 n 10 maybe there's light at the end of tunnel. Serie M? Dead. (I owe one)
@davidlara98082 жыл бұрын
I just got this lens. Does your copy have a focus pulse/breathing when zooming? I'm trying to see if it's my lens copy or something that is in every lens. If i was only doing photo, this wouldn't be an issue, but for video I often use the fuji for livestreaming at weddings, I currently use the 18-55 kit lens which works great except it's a variable aperture lens.
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
I’m not quite sure what you mean and I have returned my loaner lens already, so I can’t double check.
@luig135 Жыл бұрын
I've recently got this Tamron lens, have only used it a couple of times so far doing gig photography, and did notice heavy focus breathing. Meaning image would miss focus while zooming in or out. Which was strange as the camera had already found what to focus on.
@jorgjanssen99732 жыл бұрын
Good image quality, but would be too big for my XT 30
@Xer0.Visual5 Жыл бұрын
I still say Fuji 15-55 f2.8 R WR is best there is. It’s so much sharper then the rest.
@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@user-gn8ej2rf3b2 жыл бұрын
What do you prefer xf1655 f2.8, tamron 1770 x mount? I heard xf1655 f2.8 is the best quality of fuji zoom lens. So I wanna know what about tamron 1770 x mount camparing to xf1655 f2.8.
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
I have no experience on the Fuji 16-55mm. I'm sure someone here on KZbin makes a comparison.
@DanielReichel19792 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5y5ipWYbc5ljtE
@JulioMartinsL Жыл бұрын
Did you noticed any problem when zooming the tamron one? Some weird Focus stuff? Even on manual, when i change the focal distance it simply blur everything and then when I stop focusing it comes back to normal. Just want to know if this is common among these, or it's a problem with my one
@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын
I have already returned the demo lens and I can't double check it any more. However, I can't say that I remember that kind of behavior.
@JulioMartinsL Жыл бұрын
@@mattisulanto oh, thanks! I've checked some other channels that said that this happened to them as well, however it's not a reason big enough for to return It, since here in Brazil the fuji lenses are waaaay more expensive that the tamron i've got!
@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын
@@JulioMartinsL Good to hear you found some more info on that.
@janjamesramos247 Жыл бұрын
yes this was I guess mentioned in other channels but this may be normal because this is not 'parfocal'.
@dimitridjuric38862 жыл бұрын
is the exposure constant if you zoom in video?
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
That's a bit problematic question to answer. I tried it, all manual settings, and I can definitely see steps in the exposure when I zoom in or out. Like the camera was correcting something in the background. In the end the exposure seems to stay constant, but if you zoom while filming, you are going to see steps in the exposure. I repeat, I had all in manual: shutter, aperture and ISO. Then again, manual zooming does not look good in video. So, if you don't zoom while filming it should be ok. If you want a perfect lens for video then you should be looking at cine lenses.
@dimitridjuric38862 жыл бұрын
@@mattisulanto Thanks for you answer, very informative. I think, like for the xf16-55 the camera applies different lens correction profiles at different focal length, seems to be a problem with a few lenses of the fuji system. You might not like the look of zooming in video but some do!
@amitdey59032 жыл бұрын
Xf 16-80 f4 or this one?? Which one should i buy?? Can’t decide!! Aaagghhh!!
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
Life is tough sometimes😀
@amitdey59032 жыл бұрын
@@mattisulanto do you know if xf 16-80 is smaller than the Tamron 17-70?
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
@@amitdey5903 You have to go to both web sites and compare the specs. I have not done that.
@richardcarlson1122 жыл бұрын
I agree with your comment on size. It's too big for me also. I switched to Fuji long ago because of their compact size. Too bad, as the zoom range is decent and f 2.8 is nice.
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I said it's too big as a travel lens for me. It's F2.8 so you can't expect super compact size, but fortunately it's not heavy.
@peterkelly83572 жыл бұрын
Even though camera and lens companies strive to produce, and do produce, amazing tech, there are always people who complain about something
@moritzschiem68732 жыл бұрын
How do you configure the focus ring for aperture control? So far you are the only one mentioning that option. I can't find any information about that, except from your video. 🤔
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
There is a link in the video for that. In the upper right corner and I even mention that and point my finger at it. Please take another look at 4:15 😀 Just in case, here is also a direct link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaTCpXWuj7V3fLs
@moritzschiem68732 жыл бұрын
Maybe I didn't get it right. In the video you said the lens is NOT compatible with the utilities app.. Or am I mistaken?
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
@@moritzschiem6873 I said it's not compatible with the app, but I wish it would be and it would be nice to able to configure the aperture ring. That's what I meant to convey, but maybe it was not clear. I'm sorry about that.
@moritzschiem68732 жыл бұрын
@@mattisulanto thanks for the explanation! No, it wasn't clear. At least for me 😅 So than I can just hope they will add this feature. If they do I will definitely give this lens a go..
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
@@moritzschiem6873 I don't think they will or can add it, because the lens does not have a USB connector, which would be needed.
@b.r.srihari40992 жыл бұрын
Is this lens only for FUji......Cant I use this lens on canon apsc camera...
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
Available for Sony E and Fuji X. Tamron web site cal tell you more😀
@vadergrd Жыл бұрын
is this lens compatible with all fuji cameras?
@mattisulanto Жыл бұрын
It's compatible with the Fuji X mount.
@Audimann10 ай бұрын
I returned this lens the next day. It had severe back focus issues at 70mm. I tried to focus manually but still no sharpness and contrast. Got the Fuji 16-55 instead and that lens works just fine. Tamron makes some great lenses but I guess quality control is a weak point. I have never had any quality issues with Fuji lenses.
@mattisulanto10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. It's always a bummer when you get a bad sample. However, every manufacturer have their share of quality control issues, also Fuji, but those issues are rare and it's really bad luck to get a bad sample from any brand.
@marcp.17522 жыл бұрын
Fine review, as always. However, this lens isn't ideal for Fujifilm users - as a truly 3rd party lens it is, it does have a totally different design language, than say Fujifilm (Fujinon) XF series lenses for instance, and worst of it all, no aperture ring. Fujifilm does have the excellent XF16-55/2.8, also the smaller size, great XF 18-55/2.8-4 Fujinon lenses, for instance.
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliments and sharing your opinion.
@marcp.17522 жыл бұрын
@@mattisulanto You're welcome, Matti.
@lamaludwig14702 жыл бұрын
True, but when you count in the X-H2 it's not true anymore. That would make a very nice combo, although I don't like the decision for PASM.
@marcp.17522 жыл бұрын
@@lamaludwig1470 The X-H2 doesn't have the classic Dials like the X-H1, or X-T Series anymore. The GFX-100(s) also the same. I like & enjoy my E1, E2, T1 & X100 LE. Also not being a PASM Fan. I've grown up with SLRs into the 80's, so standard aperture dial onto the lens, shutterspeed dial onto the body is fine for myself, and enough.
@marcp.17522 жыл бұрын
@@lamaludwig1470 I don't spent 2749 EUR for a shiny new X-H2s. It features also 6.2K, and the most speedy AF from Fuji, but i'd never need it. I'm fine with my old Fujifilm gear. :) And no PASM dial.
@davidson.mp42 жыл бұрын
Hi, does the exposure change when you zoom in/out with the lens ? It arrives a lot with some Fuji zoom lenses Thanks for the video !
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
I can't say I noticed that. The exposure can of course change in some situations. For example, you have a big white rectangle that has a small black square in the middle. If you take a shot of the rectangle at 17mm and then zoom in to 70mm for the black square, you are going to get two different exposures. That's because there is more white in the first picture and all black in the the second picture.
@davidson.mp42 жыл бұрын
@@mattisulanto I see what you mean, what I really wanted to know is that do we have the current problem of the stop-up or stop-down while we zoom from 17 to 24 to 35 to 50 to 70... Because I have the Fujifilm 16-55 that I use for video, and this thing is terrible!
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
@@davidson.mp4 I did not do enough video on the Tamron to notice that. However, these lenses are designed for photography and the T stop may change slightly over the zoom range. Some photo zooms are really good in that regard but some are less good.
@davidson.mp42 жыл бұрын
@@mattisulanto Thanks for your answer !
@petarmaksimovic40482 жыл бұрын
OK, but where aperture ring? Also it doesn't fit Fuji's design one bit.
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
You can always buy Fujinon😀
@petarmaksimovic40482 жыл бұрын
@@mattisulanto True, just pointing out they adapted lens they obviously made for Sony.
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
@@petarmaksimovic4048 Tamron has that same design throughout the line up and there were obvious reasons why they started with the Sony version. If they ever make CaNikon versions, the design will be the same again. However, I agree, that aperture ring would be nice.
@panuwatthongpoom13972 жыл бұрын
Should i sell my 16-80 for this?
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
Only you know that😀
@jillyjollyjelly2 жыл бұрын
I think the range is pretty similar except fuji has a bit more reach. unless you need a faster aperture, stick with what you have. It is also slightly larger and heavier, and also has no aperture ring which is dealbreaker for fuji users who tend to like using the dials and stuff.
@AnhNguyen-id8bk2 жыл бұрын
Distorts like crazy!!!
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
Like all mirrorless zoom lenses. You have to apply in camera corrections or apply lens corrections in post. This normal with every lens.
@AnhNguyen-id8bk2 жыл бұрын
@@mattisulanto Fuji 16-55 2.8 distorts very little that I rarely need to fix in post. For me this Tamron distorts so much it slowed down my workflow that I had to return it. I'm a fulltime real estate photographer.
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
@@AnhNguyen-id8bk I don't know your workflow, but in Lightroom I don't see any distortions, because they are auto corrected. Your Fuji zoom also has a hefty barrel distortion at the wide end and clearly visible pincushion distortion at the tele end, if auto correction is not applied. However, you have to what you have to do for your workflow and I'm happy that the Fuji lens works well for you.
@BryanMiraflor2 жыл бұрын
dude, the lens looks so big tho. lol
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
Dude, if you are looking for the smallest possible lens, you have to look elsewhere😀
@BryanMiraflor2 жыл бұрын
@@mattisulanto lol i know. for context, I also shoot mainly with sony like the A7iii and A7R3. My first lens for that system was the Sony GM 24-70mm f/2.8 (Gen 1) and that lens was ginormous. I just think that this tamron looks ridiculously big while on the Fuji camera body. But yes, I do understand how versatile it is with its focal range basically being a 24-105mm lens. One could only wish that they could make a lens with this focal range the same size as Fuji's OG kit lens, the 18mm to 55mm f/2.8. But we all know that's not scientifically/physically possible. lol
@SuchContent2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@1957PLATO2 жыл бұрын
The reach is very interesting. The size, not so much. Quality seems very ok.
@mattisulanto2 жыл бұрын
It's F2.8 all the way. If you want small, you have to get something with a slower max aperture.