The "BetterHelp" YouTube Virus is BACK | Asmongold Reacts

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[@JohnSmithIlIlIlIl]

AsmonTherapy: "You suck. And that's okay. It's okay to suck. Now try to suck less, day by day."

[@ergonsahar]

fr fr lmao

[@cheeks_of_the_boreal_valley]

It might be worded poorly but it's solid advice

[@lewisgarland1259]

You think that's funny? that's good advice. It means accept you have and and its ok but everyday be a little better until its not an issue anymore. The problem with people is that no one can do anything for themselves. If you cant fix it for you then no one can.

[@animevideobusta]

Indeed ​@@cheeks_of_the_boreal_valley

[@camilla_films_stuff]

that's what dr k says too imo

[@PatootiePotatoe]

I remember years ago Pewdiepie pointed out how BetterHelp is pretty sketchy and a bunch of KZbinrs came out and apologized for advertising BetterHelp.

[@GizmoTheGreen]

this. they then went away and now they're back and I'm like... everyone forgot already??

[@user-to4zl8wf2n]

@@GizmoTheGreenlook at the Ukraine war, still going on but forgotten on the internet for Palestine vs Israel

[@TheMasterblah]

​@@GizmoTheGreenthey just went to advertise on podcasts. I constantly heard better help ads whenever my wife would listen to a podcast since 2020

[@JaceKeller]

@@user-to4zl8wf2nforgotten ? Where ? I see articles, tweets and whatever about it every single day despite blocking it as much as I can because I couldn’t care less about it.

[@dh2032]

as KZbinrs, they should be at least a bit internet savvy, do quick search, on the name and see what comes up? not not working any with less than 99%, happy customers, I must the one in the video, if your get reviews that low, maybe give them a miss, your rep, more important, is it not?

[@goldsharkwow1231]

I used betterhelp. The therapist on there was actually alright, but... the price model was just too much. So i hit the "quit therapy" button.

[@joemamma953]

that’s scummy if the button the unsubscribe is actually, “quit therapy.”

[@bjg8638]

BetterHelp is making fucking bank too. I see that african woman telling me in heavily accented english that my feelings are valid a dozen times a day. Over advertising just screams scam to me.

[@neveridle]

over advertising always scream scam to me. It seems like par for the course, almost every service that needs a ton of money into marketing usually has nothing else of substance

[@EvilNeonETC]

​@@neveridleit's thanks to the excessive advertising that we were trained to ignore ads from early on. Choosing to ignore all ads makes these scams far less effective.

[@williamyoung9401]

It's all over the TV too. I barely watch TV, but when I do, there's advertisements for new drugs, old sugar water, and BetterHelp...

[@ffwast]

I can't stand that kind of thing, I've been using adblockers since I was on _dialup_

[@neveridle]

@@EvilNeonETC marketing in general is a scam. While marketing has helped me discover a few products that were useful for me, id say 99% of the products Ive bought I discovered them myself or through recommendation, be either games, health products, hygiene stuff, places to travel, clothing, everything was not through an ad. Marketing is mostly just a scam to sell people things they dont need.

[@bl8388]

I contacted them once and asked how Betterhelp respects Hipaa and protects their customers' privacy. I was informed from management, "Hipaa doesn't apply to us. We make no promises about your personal medical information." Talk about a huge red flag.

[@MollyHJohns]

So basically they straight up just saying "we're scamming your wallet by pretending to lend you liars' ears and promises, none of us arelicensed healthcare professionals."

[@PapaEnoch052]

Then they are not a legit medical company. Great job in checking this. Any medical company that says HIPPA has no bearing on them. They need to be shut down. I wonder if someone can call the better business bureau.

[@RWhite_]

They've already been made to pay a fine of $7.8 million for selling customer data. It's not a red flag at this point, they literally don't care about your privacy.

[@bloodred255]

@@RWhite_ 7.8 million fine to a billion dollar business is nothing.

[@motleyminded85]

Hipaa is the responsibility of the individual counselors. It's not dependent on a business. However, if the business handled records in a way that violated hipaa they could face millions of dollars in fines.

[@Louey_]

The one with the 16 year old in a range rover telling me therapy is the best way to deal with a break up is my favourite

[@ricardohoang8452]

“WorseHelp”

[@monkeybench]

My favourite is the one where she says she's been in therapy since she was 5 years old so clearly it's not working

[@swamp-yankee]

So wild when they imply it’s better to talk to a rando psycho analyst than your friends

[@sonicartzldesignerclan5763]

@@monkeybench Dosnt make any sense just because somebody is forever in therapy Like you will be forever an addict so it make sense to stay in therapy Some illness are not going away so you stay in therapy to have it in control

[@ugn154]

😅the fact that people actually fall for that crap Yeah, a 16yr old is gonna give me life advice on dating, when she's never had a bad day in her life and us just riding daddy's money wagon.

[@ivayloyankov8120]

Web / Mobile developer here. UI is intentionally confusing, and we are talking about users with mental health problems. This company is trash!

[@Tyrael2k3]

There is a term for this, because it's so widespread: Dark patterns

[@Geekabibble]

That's exactly what I was thinking. How can we keep depressed people paying for a service they don't want anymore. Make it harder to actually cancel, put lots of hurdles in the way...because we know depressed people are unmotivated and have problems with things they perceive as being hard or time consuming.

[@oteris2924]

Never, EVER trust a company that tries this hard to get their ads in front of your eyes. They want something more than your money.

[@PNooi]

They want your first born? ? 😳!!

[@kiloneie]

Don't trust ANY company, they are all for profit and sooner or later they will get more money than they ever thought they will and get greedy.

[@Shivana246]

​@PNooi they want the money you haven't made yet.

[@GorehowlBeardhead]

The fact the cancellation button is red and labelled 'Quit Therapy' is fucking insidious. Remember people - they dont give a fuck about your mental health. Just your money

[@bl8388]

So true. As I mentioned elsewhere, I contacted them and asked how they protect people's privacy and protect Hipaa laws. A supervisor explained to me , "Hipaa doesn't apply to us and we make no promises about your personal information." I wanted to make sure I didn't read it out of context and followed up asking the same information several ways. That's their stance. She said you are paying for them to look for a therapist. There are complaints from people with long waits and no therapist, but still charged. A counselor's office would charge you only when you arrive for the first counseling session. And also I was told by that "Betterhelp," supervisor that some of them may only text you. All your friend or family member's "therapy," is text if that's how the "therapist," chooses. I picture someone making money at home texting a case load of 50+ people.

[@bored588]

tbh, these days its hard to find someone who actually cares, its 2024, mental health care is a gold mine for the providers.

[@tedk.6420]

Literally all therapists.

[@yous2244]

Isn't red usually cancel? What's wrong with it?

[@steve6977]

@@yous2244 green is usually the positive action and red is the negative action. In this case, cancelling the service would be the positive action and stopping service negative. Switching that interface goes against our subconscious, and the average npc brain person will hit the wrong button and not cancel.

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

I don't want better help. I want worse help. It's just 3 hours of a guy in a tank top screaming at you in a drunken rage.

[@Giggles4692]

That is why I watch Asmongold. I feel better about myself knowing that at least I’m not as bad as him.

[@Mecanotech]

That's Wes Watson for you. Pay a lot of money to get yelled and cussed out on the phone.

[@williambarnes5023]

So... boot camp drill sergeant?

[@bl8388]

Some of them only text you. Imagine a therapist who only provides text therapy. And you are paying for them to try to look for someone for you. There are complaints from people saying they couldn't get a therapist, but were still charged for the service "looking for someone for them."

[@N0stalgicLeaf]

Midhelp: A guy in a track suit irl streaming and giving advice he got from his boomer gym teacher who was always longing to relive his glory days.

[@MrTmm97]

3:09 “Quit” also gives a negative connotation. Possibly a dark pattern for multiple reasons …both the coloring of the cancel buttons and phrasing they are labeled with. “Quit” is likely meant to make the user feel bad for cancelling their subscription when they could be canceling for any number of reasons… dissatisfaction and looking for help in another service, potentially not feeling like they are in need of therapy anymore, or simply can’t afford it. Meanwhile the company is attempting to make potentially depressed people feel bad for cancelling for whatever reason by forcing then to click on something that could make someone who is potentially unwell feel as though they are a “quitter.” I feel like this of intentional. It’s disgusting how people truly looking for help are met with a company who is looking to take advantage of them from the start

[@Pause4pot]

How to Psychologically & Financially Manipulate People Who Are Already in a Bad Place Mentally & Financially

[@chrishayes5755]

Don't be paranoid. Tell your lifes dirt to BetterHelp today!

[@userabcdef6436]

@@chrishayes5755 we won't tell Zuck, we promise!

[@fajarn7052]

What is mindboggling for me, as a doctor, I have to pretty much spent nearly 10 years in education, and passed the licensing exam, and had to renew them every 5 years, and then we are limited to 3 places of practices (at least in my country), we have strict standard procedure, one mistake and either it cost life or cost YOUR life (i.e your career) but then these kind of 'treatment' provider, alternative medicine, has no regulation whatsoever.

[@dustinvanwinkle5078]

In all fairness someone just simply listening to you complain isn't quite the same as being an actual Dr. Then again I've always found therapy to be a scam to begin with.

[@zubrhero5270]

KZbinrs be like "lay down on this table, Grandma, and let me readjust your spine. I'm a medically recognised chiropractor."

[@Dumb-Comment]

But they made more money than you tho, I think they're more successful in life than someone who spent years studying

[@sussygoose2227]

@@Dumb-Comment relevant username

[@Goldy01]

Therapists aren't doctors. Doctors aren't therapists.

[@glemmstengal]

Here's another tip: Raycons are shit and you're better off paying $20-30 for a random earbud off of Amazon.

[@Azmania3000]

I would play raid:shadow legends before I bought raycons 😁

[@mekal177]

High sound quality earbuds are a meme period Pay $300 for "high end" earbuds that sound worse than basic $40 over the ear headset

[@markwalsh262]

I'll keep my Skullcandy buds, never let me down and sound good

[@phoebeaurum7113]

Maybe not random. I'd recommend Tozo.

[@Vancev99x]

​@@markwalsh262 SkullCandy is so Under rated I miss the fuck out of my SkullCrushers. 😢

[@jonreznick5531]

FYI a lot of people on YT who take sponsorship from BetterHelp *delete* comments that call out BetterHelp. I regularly comment on BH-sponsored content and find it deleted later.

[@NightmareRex6]

ofcourse, its all about $$$$

[@sadravin1]

The red flag that prevented me from using better Help, as the service was when you sign up, it outright tells you that it is not associated with licensed professionals in addition to that it will not take any form of insurance. Other companies that have been out on KZbin as fraudulent are things like established titles/rocket money and many more

[@juicybleu5438]

general rule of thumb, don’t buy the things influencers sell you

[@topicalstormofficial]

This era of KZbinr sponsorship sucks. So tired of it.

[@Daholy1727]

Unless it’s LTT’s screwdriver, that thing is actually very good

[@Yousei85]

Better yet, dont let yourself be influenced by morons

[@Kratos-eg7ez]

Depends entirely what it is. Usually if you buy into a sponsorship, it's because you were wanting a product like that anyways. Just look around at other reviews and use your brain

[@eikixia]

You're telling me Raidy Shady isn't all that it's made out to be?

[@LostGeburah]

pro tip: NEVER fall for influencer/youtube ads. 13:09 never cared to begin with.

[@CHIEF__]

Shady Rays is the only podcast ad I've ever bought and I actually enjoyed them (I swear I'm not an ad, they're good, cheap glasses)

[@secretsecret3528]

😂 I remember a KZbin add advertising the latest in military tech design to give you 200% more oxygen, like who is dumb enough to buy that crap, the damn things an inhaler 🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣

[@LEWIS1992]

Sponsorships are the cancer of KZbin. Used exclusively by greedy creators.

[@camilla_films_stuff]

not even the desktop protection program that gives you a vpn and has kernel access and admin rights that's free in exhange for my browser history and all files on my computer and phone?

[@jayleno2192]

Some people swear by the Ridge wallet, but I've never bought one.

[@BuffAmogus]

I worked at a call center where BetterHelp was one of the clients. We acted as customer support for them and I always knew this would blow up one day because almost every customer who called had something to complain about

[@thomaswilkerson2711]

To be fair, there is selection bias there since it's where people go to complain about something wrong, but your point is still sound.

[@ggpl8117]

Discord does exactly the same thing In the ToS they claim your data is not sold by discord. but a little further down there is an information that all your data is shared with their "Partners"

[@Friskni]

the advertising strategy of betterhelp is also something that needs to be made illegal. Using actors and influencers to pretend to be your best mate pretending about how they used a mental health service should be hella illegal.

[@LordSleven]

Theft by deception is indeed illegal... If you can prove it that is

[@NightmareRex6]

im seeing kids buy prime drinks and alwasy try to warn parrents when see them having kids buying the cans becuase those are the energy drinks and the bottles are the sports drinks. and if you see something like that and dont warn them then you karmicaly get attached to it if somethign bad happens.

[@yoji-_]

"You also have to press "Quit Therapy" four times to actually stop your subscription." This seems literally illegal in some way. Like, weird hidden instructions?? Not to mention extremely manipulative to make someone with mental health issues doubt their decision.

[@LonelyAncient]

since we're here let's go ahead and do a round up of sponsor issues. mobile games(like Raid, Genshin, Dragon city): primary progression is a gambling, gameplay often intentionally grindy through time based resources like energy. VPNs (like Nord, express): benefits of VPNs is over stated and promises they can't keep like -'no logs': impossible due to CSAM/hitman/drug purposes and implementations like RADIUS protocols, there are public court cases where 'no log' vpn log were used. -'increased security': true only against Man in the middle attacks which are extremely rare with modern protocols. -Raycon: overpriced compared to quality for 80 fucking dollars for the cheapest set. -food kits (factor, hello fresh): it's delivery food but once it arrives you still have to cook it, many reports of food arriving stale and over ripe and not lasting long in the fridge, it's way cheaper to buy the ingredients yourself. -Displate: flimsy thin metal that's easily bent, a lot of their catalogue is AI generated so you have to wade through slop.

[@socksfersold]

Honestly, for the food ones, just find a recipe and buy some groceries lol you don’t need a subscription for that

[@carldenslow9629]

Attempting to deceive is lying. Too many people think there are semantic loopholes that make deception ok because they narrowly define lying.

[@Oneshtforfun]

I tried BetterHelp. The subscription hid that you were paying for 3 months instead of 1 so it charged me way more than I thought, I got matched with a guy who, while telling him the things that were bothering me replied "I don't know what you want me to do.".... Bruv, you're the "therapist" I'm swindled into listening to for 3 months, you fuckin tell me. It takes forever to have a conversation because you go 1 email every couple days, so while it might be cheaper than going and paying hourly, it's gonna take you months to actually accomplish anything if the fuck on the other end knows what they're even doing.

[@christophermiller4447]

Darkest time in my life, and I had a 1 year wait at any therapist office where I live, so I chose this out of last choice. 4 therapists. 4 no shows. 8 hours of my life is gone due to waiting until they basically said "Oh something happened to your therapist, but we can try again next time with a new therapist." Bologna. Never again. Got my shit together the hardest way possible. Made me better than I ever was

[@bhec7715]

That’s how therapy works. You gotta find one that is worth talking to. I used it. I didn’t vibe with the last. I cancelled. But it was like 30% cheaper than face to face so I’m not going to hate on it.

[@DeagleGamesTV]

@@bhec7715 I mean 30% cheaper for essentially useless or worst case harmful service isn't exactly a good thing. If i offer so sell you a car for 30% under retail and you pay upfront and its just a frame and wheels when you get there you aren't gonna say "well its 30% cheaper so i aint gonna hate on it" nah man you got swindled, there was never a full car for you to have despite them advertising it and taking your money for it.

[@Bigbadpoppaj]

yeah thats not exclusive to betterhelp, thats therapy period. As ive literally had that happen with someone that has practice in an office.

[@Johngc61]

I think i got lucky, the woman i got was extremely helpful and she check-ins during the week. She listens, very understanding, gives pretty good advice. I looked her up as well, so that helped.

[@LethalShadow]

The Incogni ad is ironic considering how difficult it is to cancel THAT subscription. It took me 2 weeks of being told "oh we don't handle that service, go here instead" and THAT place telling me "we don't handle that, the people who sent you here handle it".

[@ThaCousin]

And "privacy" giving ur data and access to some other sus people behind that incogni service... Idk, kinda ridiculous make a video to critique betterhelp and sponsor that other groups.. and I'm not defending betterhelp by ANY meaning saying that. I think people have bills to pay but like, couldn't be another sponsor just for that video in particular? Haha

[@The_Endless_Now]

*_"If you would like to stop your recurring payments, reach out via email"_* Huge red flag right there. It should be as simple as a click of a button. Anything less is an obvious scam.

[@Maelthorn1337]

I don't think I've ever used a service that's been advertised in a youtube video. This seems like the best practice. Wait wait wait, that's not true. I paid for Dollar Shave Club for 6 months many uears ago. Their stuff was decent for the price.

[@KScrono]

My tinfoil hat theory is that they sell your recovered stuff x2 or x3 once you cancel it

[@some_random_wallaby]

Good to know

[@AmerigoGadsden]

Sounds like it ends up with your wallet needing betterhelp.

[@SkumleBones]

wait.... so they just let anyone do counselor work even if they were not certified? WTF

[@JustfknBill]

Betterhelp passed me around faster than the workers in a red light district. I had 30 different people in 30 days. And they wouldn't give me my money back. They're a corrupt, horrible company who doesn't care about your mental health at all.

[@RyeNorth]

Kyle Hill was informed about this, in the video "Exposing Science's Biggest Fraud", ironically, and ran defense for them in his comments.

[@FFNOJG]

He literally pushes disinfo all the time. dude literally pushes any "mainstream" thing as the truth...when its literally just CIA/BIG BUSINESS (literally one and the same. the CIA is the enforcement arm of American BIG business) disinfo. Like talking about how Vaccines DO NOT INJURE PEOPLE! literally what he says in that same video. when... that is fucking 100% false, and dangerous bullshit to push... obviously

[@mechadonia]

Used to be subbed to him when I was a kid and forgot about him till recently. He makes ok videos but his swag is so cooked. I saw one time he posted a poll on his channel feed unironically asking if anyone calls him “science daddy” when they talk about him so that was my cue to unsubscribe.

[@entryofemotion12]

They just settled a lawsuit. People are getting payouts for it soon. I've got money coming back from it too. According to the email I recieved, they're sending out payments starting June 17th 2024, and check payments by July 2024. Seems like BetterHelp was revealing a lot of info to different companies for advertising, despite saying they wouldn't do that. And some of that info was answers to their health questions.

[@foxdavion6865]

Oh you think this is bad, Disney+ is incredibly difficult to unsubscribe to as Disney indulges in similar tactics on their website to make unsubscribing incredibly difficult. You know a decade ago, this would be something I'd attribute to a shady MMO publisher like the now bankrupt and defunct Trion Worlds, but seeing this sort of behaviour everywhere now, makes me really angry.

[@coldgoldcan2781]

a while ago sky bought out my isp. first I heard of it was when I got a bill for sky internet, I immediately called to cancel, and they said I had to join them for a year, because my contract with old isp was yearly, and they would take me to court if I tried to to cancel. I said "OK lets got to court" and they immediately let me cancel. I wonder how many people stayed with sky for a year because they didnt want to go to court.

[@keegansimons7348]

That prompt at the bottom of the cancelation page said "press quit therapy 4 times for it to work" that is insane and have never seen a choice or instruction used on the web before. Thought stupid crap like that was the "true secret way" of for sure 100% make sure your subscription is canceled

[@db5094]

thats so fucking toxic for your brain also, agreeing to statements like that, its no longer about keeping people in your business model but also not caring about that you are making them feel like since Betterhelp didn't work for them, NO therapy can work

[@bl8388]

I worked in the field of Psychology for 10 years as a Qualified Mental Health Professional. Most counselors/therapists care about their clients. But the administrators and marketers, and sometimes billing departments are often exploitative. They aren't all bad, but many are, and will exploit people with severe mental health problems.

[@toshironikko]

I used to sign up for "free" stuff alot in the late 2000's and when I cancel the subscription the same day the person on the phone was "why?" and I just reply "I only signed up for the free stuff"

[@idadru]

​@@bl8388administration/bureaucracy turns everything to trash. Look at education, medicine, government, you name it paper pushers degrade everything around us.

[@keegansimons7348]

The client with OCD is now in an even worse existential crisis because maybe 4 times wasnt quite 4 times enough and the reason they were canceling was because of a profound break through after 4 years of their service just erased because they do something like this lol straight back into counseling

[@EasyGameEh]

the sole fact that the ad is everywhere tells you everything you need to know about them

[@jetdathreat]

Been seeing a lot of incogni ads everywhere too, now that you mention it!

[@EasyGameEh]

@@jetdathreat the worst offender is raid. but this anonymization spiel as well as vpns are bad too - they sell you fear and paranoia to only betray your trust selling your shiet to third parties.

[@larryvillarreal5400]

Cinema therapy also uses betterhelp as a sponsor. They dropped them previously and now they’re back.

[@isaacjacobs1167]

Talking about hurdles with quiting better help, the people who sign up are people who are already struggling or exhausted mentally and every little hurdle becomes a much bigger issue when youre already struggling mentally

[@callum4796]

Praying on the vulnerable and disguising it as help is disgusting

[@f687sNFM]

Sadly many many companies do this one way or another

[@o0Donuts0o]

Praying doesn’t normally help. However, preying does.

[@bhec7715]

I used it. It was just like other therapy, but cheaper. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@MrHeavy466]

People prey on the intelligent too, look up how many doctors get involved in investment scams, so it may be disgusting to you but it's not going to go away. Best you can do is wise up to it.

[@linux4me28]

Amen!

[@monsterman272]

As a rule of thumb it’s probably a good idea to assume most KZbin sponsors are a scam. I think this is the third time hearing about a sponsorship being a scam. That one where people become a lord in Scotland, and another one I can’t think of.

[@LordSleven]

NordVPN is another... The company claimed they could shield your info but was leaking it for years without telling anyone

[@Blaze_Shadowflame]

Kamikoto knives?

[@KirkFickert]

I always thought of the Scotland lord thing as being a novelty thing like the star registry thing in decades past.

[@streetmp]

The only thing I’ve ever bought that has advertised on YT was a ridge wallet and I got it for Father’s Day. 2 years ago I think? Can absolutely recommend them.

[@aleksandarkovacevic7138]

I always thought Scotland thing was a joke. I was just upset there are no environmental campaign

[@rami8896]

I remember when Phillip Defranco was heavily shilling for BetterHelp

[@KirkFickert]

Wasn’t he an investor in the company?

[@carldenslow9629]

When something becomes illegal, companies find a legal way to keep doing it, like just pay the fines. When something becomes unprofitable, they stop immediately.

[@arkcantoscreampsnpc7274]

real ones saw it before it was privated

[@kex5835]

A moment of Deja Vu

[@TrenchNerd]

I was pretty confused halfway through and it said there was a video error

[@Supergh0stTV]

Anyone know the difference?

[@lelandmassaro4086]

Only if we could of finished it before it disappeared..I thought KZbin pulled it bc they are a massive advertisement 😂

[@PhyrexianFleshgorger]

Yeah wtf

[@MasutaMJ]

Before this virus it was known that BetterHelp was a scam years ago anyway

[@jayluss]

That’s what I thought. I was starting to think my memory about that was wrong with all the new adds popping up.

[@sora15151SomethingAppropriate]

I've used BetterHelp and it's completely fine.

[@briancollins7296]

@@jayluss i remember some kind of robo therapy site a few years ago, but it would connect you to an actual person if you were in serious mental illness/crisis

[@teanott5073]

I dont think it was widnly known, at least for sure by the youtubers, they kept advertising that

[@whendarknessfalls6969]

Bacteria maybe, but it's not as "viral" as the woke mind virus. Look into the microbiome

[@ARDIZsq]

The thing that bothers me the most about Trash Taste accepting a sponsorship from them is that I'm 99% sure they've said before that they vet their guests AND their sponsorships so that they don't end up promoting shit like this. If so, that was a fucking lie, which honestly at this point, I'm not really surprised. 2/3 of them have been getting worse and worse over the past year or two, so my trust in them as a collective has gone down significantly.

[@kastian9537]

Which two of them are you talking about if I can ask?

[@lemonfelon8051]

Pretty much every youtuber/streamer doesn't actually give a shit about their audience which should be obvious, after all we're watching a video of a certain someone who's organisation they're a part of didn't bother to do a basic background check on a charity middleman company which would have let them find out very quickly that the charity middleman was pocketing most of the money. TL;DR youtubers/streamers are cripplingly addicted to easy money and are more than happy to promote any meme scam in order to get another paycheck

[@ARDIZsq]

@@kastian9537 Connor and Joey. Their content has taken a massive shift for the worse in my opinion, except for the charity stuff of course. It feels to me personally like Garnt is the only one making genuine content he's passionate about rather than just trying to chase a trend.

[@randomvideoboy1]

They got their brain rotted because of Vtubers. Especially Connor.

[@duhotatoday3277]

Stopped watching podcast when they've had Наmаs Piker on

[@LunaNK22]

I think pewdiepie already did this video years ago right?

[@Arthur-uu3px]

I vividly remember the first Better Help controversy back in 2018. I would NOT trust this company with any information about me whatsoever.

[@BBJones93]

My sister works for these guys and she's an idiot. I'd never seek her for any type of advice....

[@darkwyve]

You got one of those in your family too? Fucking up as many people as they can, whether it's work, home, or play?

[@dom1040]

does your sister havy any form of education in the field or is she just winging it?

[@BBJones93]

@@dom1040 She does, she went through a three year placement on suicide help lines, and an online course. For what it's worth I know three others that I know through gaming that are doing the same courses, they are all the usual BS nanny state, blame the parents crap. From the sounds of it all she does is reassure people on their life choices, and tries to life coach them. She is going through a divorce to her wife as this happens. We are also very wealthy, she's struggled for nothing.

[@BBJones93]

@@darkwyve She is a delight, correct.

[@DantesHaven]

@@BBJones93 Lesbian. Makes sense.

[@bearieroblox6451]

It’s still wild to me that people blame those deaths on Travis Scott, like who do y’all think he is? He isn’t his security, he’s not a medical professional, he’s not a concert organizer, he’s not an omnipotent deity, he just makes music.

[@Sol-Butkis]

These are by far the most annoying ads I've ever come across on youtube. Nothing worse than someone preaching about how not being okay is okay

[@400KrispyKremes]

It's like a funnel that takes people who need help, and then they scam them. So no help. Just a backdoor scam.

[@sora15151SomethingAppropriate]

I've literally used BetterHelp and nothing about it is a scam. My experience with it was completely fine.

[@Jabarri74]

Pretty low to scam people at their lowest, but thats usually when they have their guard down

[@Tyhar93]

A lot of channels temporarily stopped BetterHelp sponsorships and jumped back on the bandwagon when the controversy blew over. Cody Ko, Jacksfilms, Philip Defranco...just to name a few. These people have no actual morality just want that sweet sweet sponsorship money.

[@kilawen]

8:10 yeah me too bro to clarify I did go to therapy (forced by my parents when I was young, about 10 or so) the therapist refused to see me anymore after about 5 sessions because I didnt have anything traumatizing to talk about we would just talk about the weather and shit.

[@BKWalrus]

I feel your emotions as you are explaining the probable cause. Man. Powerful stuff. Love your videos. Valuable or all us pilots, new or experienced.

[@Tyhar93]

I remember when the controversy with BetterHelp happened, and all these youtubers who took sponsorships from them apologized. Then a few months later they went back to doing BetterHelp sponsorships. Money is all these people care about. Nobody on the internet is what they seem.

[@iiyyxxnn]

Who apologized then started advertising them again?

[@Tyhar93]

@iiyyxxnn Philip Defranco did for sure. I'm sure other channels did too but I don't remember who all made apologies.

[@xPeski]

I'll just stick to drugs... Thank you

[@sparquisdesade]

fuck eh, right

[@Secretwhey]

And I'll just being insane.... Thanks

[@Azmania3000]

I have chronic tinnitus and have developed a level of alcoholism where I can dream with my eyes open. I just need the courage to write down what I see. Will better help allow me to overcome my fears?

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

Switch alcohol for weed

[@gamingchickenstudios]

Same!

[@Photonkannon]

I used better help for about 20 months in total. I got lucky and found a really good therapist on the first go. It was life changing. Ultimately it was the therapist that did the work, but being able to attend sessions from my home greatly helped. Bottom line is Therapy is always worth it. Just be warry of therapists that aren't calling you out on your own BS. Going to a shrink to share your feelings doesn't mean shit, if you can't understand how those feelings influence your actions. Then you have to take this new knowledge and CHANGE YOUR BEHAVIOUR. The amount of nutty family members that do therapy and never change is insane. They really pay someone tons of cash to vent their feelings., and then remain the same ignorant, broken, and misguided fools.

[@19Burgandy]

thank you for posting this... i really needed to understand how companies work and now i do

[@maeror1022]

I fixed my depression by changing my diet, being more active, and surrounding myself with good people. If I had tried to use BetterHelp instead I would be dead now.

[@juanitoalcachofa3485]

True

[@mikehunt4265]

The good people part is the issue, it's too easy for people to turn sour on you and then that sends you back down the cycle of depression

[@araamahasla555]

"Just buy a house, lamayo!"

[@bl8388]

I'm glad you got help for your depression. I'm not a fan of betterhelp and have critiqued it for years. But, "If I used a service I never used, result X would have happened," sounds odd to me.

[@eduardobarbieridealencar4838]

dont know man, if you chaning your diet doing more things and talking with more people prevent you from suicide you problably didnt have depression to begin with, maybe you were just a bit too whiney

[@savagex378]

2:31 Yes, that is indeed on purpose. It's called "Call to action" and is a useful trick to get users to click on the action you want them to take. Also, the human brain responds faster to colors than to text so making the button you want them to click being green is intentional.

[@JuneauGTW]

My dad always taught me that "sorry means never again." That's what an apology is. You recognize that your behavior is wrong and you change that behavior forever. Pretty simple concept.

[@skylimitua]

I got a therapist on this site once, and all he ever said was "Oh, that must have been rough", "Damn, I can only imagine what that must be like", "Shiiet, man, you've got dealt a tough hand haven't you?" Dude, if I needed emotional support I would talk to a friend instead, I want you to offer me something to work with. How do I change my perspective, what do I do to work towards fixing a problem. You're just aggreing with me. I don't need a second person to think I'm right about what I think, I already do. Useless bullshit. At a certain point I stopped booking because I was the only one saying anything and I ran out of things to talk about. Got no insight, wasted money

[@Terrobility]

Pro tip: Ridge wallets will DESTROY your pockets. They may look fancy but the metal and sharp corners will tear through fabric. Just get a normal leather card holder or wallet.

[@admirallove6180]

lol I have no idea what you're talking about, the corners are rounded

[@NotSolutha]

Have a ridge, the only thing that it messes up are the cards themselves. Scratches the fuck outta them.

[@Jason-dg3fj]

The issue I have with these KZbins taking on Betterhelp adds is they lie and say they used it themselves. That makes them part of the scam.

[@colinnixon7739]

Exactly. Celebs literally have their own line of private therapist.

[@thomaswilkerson2711]

It's possible that they use the service themselves, but the company gives them better quality service that they vet themselves rather than the services available to the public. I've worked for companies that do this before.

[@joek600]

A huge amount of Michael Rosenbaum's (Lex Luthor in Smallville) podcasts are sponsored by BetterHelp and he is actually making a big deal in his show about ''wellness'' and ''therapy'' being important, often asking relevant questions to his guests. I would not be surprised if the guy was further involved than just taking BetterHelp's money.

[@Azuciea]

I was told I was going to "move on" if I didnt get the coof shot. Man thinking about that stuff makes me loathe my fellow man.

[@ianfarris9396]

You already loathed your fellow man. You're speaking nonsense right now mad at nobody.

[@Ian.420]

I was told everybody i know was gunna notalive because of that and how much of a monster i was for thinking it wasnt a big deal. I was told millions of people notalived from it and was the most dangerous thing ever. Turns out it was only dangerous if you were already sick with something else. Turns out hospitals were getting huge amounts of money from pharmaceutical companies to falsely label any notalive as that. Our policians knew in November 2019 and sold their stocks, pharmaceutical companies knew probably even earlier because they shat out billions of doses of their RNA gene sequencer in less than 6 months

[@spacequack5470]

@@ianfarris9396 You really should learn how to troll

[@jacobsmith8377]

Tf is a coof shot 😅

[@randomdamian]

3:05 What people don't understand here is that people click on the green button assuming it is canceled then after clicking that button you are redirected to the main page. Most websites say "Thanks for staying with us" or "Your membership has been canceled" to confirm what you did. BetterHelp doesn't do that, you click the green button and you move on with your day and you can't do shit about it. If the buttons had no colors it would be better to confuse people this much.

[@user-tn4rx8pc3p]

The last sentence you wrote is very confusing.

[@GengoSenmon]

Simple fix across the board legally preventing all influencer scams: Make the cancelling process universally the same, easy, and obvious af.

[@SodapoppinVODS]

*pro tip: NEVER fall for influencer/youtube ads* 13:09 *never cared to begin with*

[@Hamlet0727]

The sheer amount of ads I experienced from better help on KZbin just gave me the ick. So I just assumed it was some scammy shit.

[@arkadisevyan]

Yeah same thing with that get a title in irland by buying a plot of land.

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

I haven't seen an ad on KZbin for a couple of years now... Brave browser

[@GeekyC.]

@@arkadisevyan”become a Scottish lord today it’s the perfect gift for Christmas” 😂 people in the uk were laughing our arses off when we saw that one

[@tripcave420]

Just report all of them?

[@chaechae2424]

its ironic that the video is about betterhelp being a bad sponsor yet they have incogni as a sponsor aswell. I have heard that if you sign up you get less spam calls but as soon as you leave you get way more spam than would have before joining.

[@dustinvanwinkle5078]

I nvr get spam calls and if I do it's like once every few months. Stop signing up for everything under the sun and clicking random links on social media 😂

[@davidtriplett7313]

After doing gate duty when I was in the military I came to understand not many people pay attention to signs. There was a long road with plenty of time for people to make a u-turn with multiple signs saying that they are entering a military installation and 100% ID check in progress along with random vehicle inspections as well. There would be so many people surprised that they were entering a military base. And many people would also look surprised if we asked for ID. Many would come up with different reasons why they didn't know or didn't have to. Now, understanding that it doesn't surprise me that people get tricked into clicking things quickly because they are so used to the cancel and accept buttons are usually placed in a certain way or have a certain color. Many sites are opening that you do that, heck sites are also wording things in such a way that you don't know what button to push. I have seen it worded where if you hit confirm, where you would think you would be confirming to cancel, you're actually confirming stay on the platform.

[@DomCoreLeon]

The issue is deeper than people give it credit for. Even Asmons example of comparing it to a raccoon implies there's an individual or small group responsible, but it's an entity. If youve ever heard the phrase "being a corporate cog," this should make sense. Once a business, company, corporation, etc. has enough cogs... it becomes a cycle, and a reflection of the operators and the consumers. It is what it is

[@eddielombardo]

I keep listening to creepypasta videos at work that get interrupted by betterhelp ads. One channel has paid in video ads for them. I'm just sick of betterhelp, raycon, manscaped, hellofresh, but betterhelp being the worst of them really says something, and it's the epitome of grifting.

[@mekmekoo1269]

A good rule of thumb is if multiple youtubers promote something, it's most likely a scam.

[@juanitoalcachofa3485]

Nord VPN’s a scam ?

[@sonicartzldesignerclan5763]

Nord vpn Raid shadow legends Yfood MMoga different games Is any of those a scam? Youre rule is the worst rule i ever heard.

[@randerson4124]

@@juanitoalcachofa3485 no, totally legit, now Established Titles, THAT was a scam

[@mekmekoo1269]

@@juanitoalcachofa3485 Well... Nobody needs a VPN unless you're doing something illegal. Otherwise there are plenty of ways of protecting your privacy that are completely free. Also, they have been hacked multiple times and their users data has been compromised so... In that sense your privacy is less safe with Nord VPN that without it. So... In my opinion... Yes. Nord VPN is a scam.

[@mekmekoo1269]

@@sonicartzldesignerclan5763 Nord VPN and Raid shadow legends are scams yes. I have never heard of the other ones.

[@angelarch5352]

15:31 to be fair. I would trust a raccoon more than I would trust a human. I would expect that raccoons have a higher level of moral fortitude than the average human.

[@ClovenTerra]

Imagine talking to a random person and then paying them to talk to you. Biggest scam in history!

[@MrNoLen5]

Better Help had some WEIRD commercials a while back... they made me feel uncomfortable...

[@Mai2708]

oooh I remember the "Julian says..." guy. that one was hilarious! xD

[@xXxGUZxXx]

Wait…you guys don’t just assume any podcast sponsor is an automatic scam?

[@kevingarlick4617]

Blue Chew works great

[@LordSleven]

Some of us are just that desperate... Myself included sometimes

[@PigsxArexAwesome]

I had people around me try better help. One of the gems I was told is the therapists stating "the addiction you're describing isn't in my flyer so it's not a real additiction" another was "what happened to you isn't that bad and you should be fine, stop complaining"

[@Rune__]

He should have gotten a BetterHelp sponsorship for his BetterHelp exposé

[@FortyOneYT]

Went through this with Artesian Builds as my first sponsor. It sucks seeing people get screwed but it sucks even more having that damage on your brand and losing the money you *thought* you were going to make. Triple whammy.

[@ironwox]

Never Trust anything that is advertised and sponsored by KZbinrs

[@LordSleven]

Never trust anything... Full stop

[@darkwyve]

@@LordSleven I don't even trust you, and I agree with you... ;)

[@MazeFrame]

If there is money for advertising, it means that money did not go into the product.

[@spacequack5470]

@@MazeFrame An irrelevant point. Brain rot really did a number on you

[@McSeal]

I dont think everyone forgot, I was on KZbin 6 years ago and definitely didn't hear of betterhelp controversy

[@Thepuffingyank]

My insurance doesn’t cover betterhelp Why would I pay for this garbage out of pocket for a service that acts like they do.?🤣

[@warpfrenzy]

That quit button is a dark pattern. A dark pattern (also known as a "deceptive design pattern") is "a user interface that has been carefully crafted to trick users into doing things, such as buying overpriced insurance with their purchase or signing up for recurring bills".

[@Deckard575]

"Everybody else is crazy"...yep thats how the crazies see themselves.

[@juanitoalcachofa3485]

Exactly; I couldn’t help to grin when asmond was talking about it. Like, sure buddy; the Diogenes syndrome streamer is gonna have a shot at pretending to be rational again.

[@jetdathreat]

I think that's also how cults get you lol

[@Maelthorn1337]

Almost certain that's the joke he's making.

[@scubasteve2189]

First of all, he’s making a self-aware joke. But second of all, he’s more sane than most of the people taking the time to try and shame someone else on the internet for how THEY are living their lives. 😉

[@Mattaiu]

@@juanitoalcachofa3485he’s making a self aware joke. He’s not being serious. Why do you watch this channel if you feel this way about asmon? Hate watching is being his biggest fan 💀👍

[@orchetect7415]

10:15 “today’s video is brought to you by…” I would have laughed so hard if he said “BetterHelp. No, just kidding…”

[@npc-drew]

this is your funniest video ever, i usually watch you for common sense/logic vids, so it hit me by surprise at how funny you can be.

[@Tryptameme]

I just want to note, that Theo Von has been promoting better help for a long time, actually I'm pretty sure he started doing ads for them right after the first time they were exposed years ago. I remember many people in the comments telling him not to advertise that service, with lots of those posts getting up voted near the top. I like Theo as a comic, but there's no way he doesn't know better help is extremely shady at the least, unless he is totally disconnected from his community entirely. Definitely lost some respect for him for that

[@tbkswagg]

He pays 100 dollars for his openers while making tens of thousands for 1 session. He's very stingy and money hungry

[@King-O-Hell]

Yeah, I thought of Theo right away because he does so many commercials. I can't believe how many KZbinrs promote them. It's a whole lot of people.

[@IanSlatas]

Betterhelp sponsored Corridor Crew's video yesterday with the spot read by Griffin. I'm seeing Betterhelp popping up a lot of places again and thought that's what this video was addressing. Many of the videos that Betterhelp sponsor have comment threads with people complaining about the sponsorship and other people defending that they may have a sponsorship contract.

[@senkasch1495]

I see Asmon has no sports fans in his audience. BetterHelp is a recurring sponsor on all LockedOn sports channels.

[@neveridle]

As someone who struggled with mental help, and have seen ludicrous improvements in my life after I managed to get a good psychiatrist and psychologist, it pains me to see people being led down the wrong route. Therapy can help you a ton, meds can help you a ton (in specific cases) and it's sad these companies are allowed to operate and ruin therapy image and potentially make people who need therapy never seek it again after such experience.

[@moonknight87]

Another thing if I want to cheer myself up I go to Walmart to people watch, my life may not be perfect but at least I still have the will to shower.

[@iRunKids]

Why you gotta be shttn on Asmon in his own comments man, not cool bud

[@briancollins7296]

i got asked to leave if i wasnt going to buy anything, i told the guy that was going to make me even less likely to make a purchase and suggested he rephrase his statement. i also went back the next day and shit in the urinal and stuffed soaked toilet paper into the air dryers.

[@darkwyve]

@@iRunKids Would they be a *real* Asmon fan if they *weren't* shitting on him? )

[@moonknight87]

@@iRunKids no shade at all, I don’t trust the service he is talking about

[@evanmarogen]

​@@briancollins7296 based you doin the lords work.

[@smokedaddy3d_]

What sucks is that a KZbinr I watch a lot of keeps promoting them, and they get called out a lot, but he just doesn't care. Even with all the problems with BH, he continues to work with them. The KZbinr is Bigjigglypanda.

[@clayermel]

I'm surprised how easily people forget. The Betterhelp scam was a huge deal in the past. I have seen the ads on other creators videos, too, but I assumed people in the comments were roasting the creators. Never checked the comments for them, I can start leaving more comments about the scam sponsors. Some of the gold scam companies get pushed a lot, too.

[@runklestiltskin_2407]

Sponsor block is such a blessing

[@Giggles4692]

What? What is that? Are you talking about add block?

[@caddph]

​@Giggles4692 it's a bit different; ad block will block pre/mid/post ads, but sponser block will skip the portion of a KZbin video that is an ad read.

[@tripcave420]

Report the ad too for fraud@@caddph

[@YouTubeOverrated]

I'll take manscaped over Betterhelp any day.

[@cgreich5240]

Sad but sooo true, haha! Good one!

[@Azmania3000]

Nah bro I shaved my gear once and it got itchy as all hell

[@CenarosNL]

Still falling for a marketing trick. Just a less worse one.

[@CenarosNL]

@@Azmania3000 Don't go against the grain, use good shaving foam and use a quality razor. At least keep it trimmed and shave between the lower parts my dude. Trust me, girls don't like to floss when they do you there.

[@andrewlacerenza667]

​@Azmania3000 good to keep it trimmed. It not only keeps the area clean and tidy but my girl won't have to deal with getting a hair in her mouth. Good for both parties.

[@anti-air-conditioning]

About ten years ago, home chef food box service would change the cancel button to resign at the are you sure to cancel option.

[@AkinokazeHaruichiban]

Been on youtube since at least 2009, this video is the first one I've seen calling out better health. I remember the issues with Beer[whatever] which was also very hard to unsub to, and with Established titles [a complete scam,] but other than those two I haven't really heard about any other scams [other than the obvious gambling/crypto crap.]

[@majorxxr6753]

Wonder if caredash would have made more money if they did the Classic "No spots available for this therapist, however, if you have the membership you can skip the normal line" then they just direct you to the therapist actual page. Enough people would forget the membership so they could def milk them. About 70% of gym memberships are paid by people who don't even go after all.

[@greenbluntern1168]

"Some people’s food gets cold…in this case bodies" 😂 This dude crack me up