The Big Fat Surprise - Why Dietary Guidelines are Making us Fat | The Empowering Neurologist EP 161

What underlies the war on fat? It’s big business, wanting us all to eat more refined carbs and sugar to replace the fat calories that we’ve been instructed to reduce. And I can think of no one who has done more to open our eyes to this ongoing travesty than Nina Teicholz. Here’s more about her from her website:
Nina Teicholz is an investigative science journalist and leader in nutrition reporting who is challenging the conventional wisdom on dietary fat-particularly, whether saturated fat causes heart disease and whether fat really makes you fat. The New York Times bestselling author of The Big Fat Surprise. Teicholz also serves as Executive Director of The Nutrition Coalition, an independent non-profit group that promotes evidence-based nutrition policy. She is one of a new generation of researchers arguing that diets lower in carbohydrates are a scientifically sound approach for reversing nutrition-related diseases.
For more than half a century, we’ve been told to eat a diet high in grains, low in fat, saturated fat (and cholesterol), but the last two decades of research have led a growing number of scientists to conclude that this diet, despite being rigorously tested, could never be shown to prevent any kind of disease.
Teicholz’s work also explains why this diet has remained official policy for so long: the roles played by crusading scientists, the food industry, and more.
The story is as much about politics as it is about science, and Nina Teicholz’s research ultimately confirms that the traditional foods we were told to abandon (meat, cheese, eggs, butter) are safe, and even good for health.
Nina Teicholz has been called “The Rachel Carson of the nutrition movement.” Her book has been called a “must read” by some of the most prestigious medical journals in the world, including The Lancet, The BMJ, and the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.
In speaking about Nina, the immediate past-president of the World Heart Federation, said at the Davos Cardiology Update Davos (2017) “She shook up the nutrition world, but she was right.”
Please enjoy this compelling interview with one of my personal heroes.
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Intro
3:30 Contradictions in the Plant-based movement
10:02 Who funds the Food Pyramid
15:59 The Carbs & Fats Debate
22:36 Debunking Keto Myths
27:07 Debating Dr. David Katz
33:37 Answering Keto Questions
40:03 White House Conference on Nutrition
48:08 Conclusion
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Nina Teicholz is a science journalist and author of the New York Times bestseller, The Big Fat Surprise, which upended the conventional wisdom on dietary fat-especially saturated fat and seed oils. Teicholz is also the founder of the Nutrition Coalition, a nonprofit working to ensure that nutrition policy reflects the best and most current science. Teicholz has appeared on most major TV networks, and her work has been published in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, the Economist, as well as in academic journals including The BMJ and the journal of the National Academy of Sciences. She is a graduate of Stanford and Oxford Universities and is now author of the “Unsettled Science” column hosted on Substack.
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[@jonathanmagic5633]

My mother had a shocking diet so unhealthy full of bacon eggs and beef/mutton daily it finally killed her at age 97.

[@jackd1582]

Less bacon ... More sheep meat n fish she probably would have gone over 100

[@aprilblandin6726]

Love it!!

[@TNTTruth1]

My mom is 92 and eats anything she wants. She cleans her house, cooks for us twice a week and takes care of her own hygene!

[@guidedmeditation2396]

Once you realize that your goal should be a low insulin diet you see fat in a new light. It is high insulin levels that turn carbs and sugars into fat and you may be surprised and I would hope to see more videos on a huge secret. Things that jolt your system and cause high insulin levels including sugar free sweetners. Yes diet colas make you fat not because they contain 9 spoons of sugar like regular cola but because they spike your insulin levels 300% anyway. This is also the purpose and reason for so many food additives. Hidden MSGs under a wide variety of names including healthy sounding names make you fat and cause cancer. To fatten lab rats they breed what are called MSG rats and that is the real name on the invoice when they are paid for. Hidden MSG glutamates spike your insulin levels 300% or more and make losing weight super tough. One really horrific one angers me and that is Vegetable broth in tuna, even super premium brands. This is really fermented soy which is how they make soy sauce and this causes horrific migraines, blindness, nausea and increase your risk of cancer and tumors. As a person who is sensitive to MSGs it angers me to get a blinding painful migraine headache and have to lose work due to "VEGETABLE BROTH" in something I paid double or triple the price for to avoid getting sick. Other hidden MSGs are cultured celery juice... sounds delicious right? Extract of paprika... sounds delicious. Natural flavor. Who could be against natural flavor because it is natural right? But then Rattlesnake venom is natural as well. There is hydrolyzed proteins, textured vegetable proteins, and even gelatins. Have you ever tried to lose weight and ate lots of sugar free gelatin? First of all the sugar substitute spikes your insulin as does the altered proteins of the gelatin. Gelatin is made from rendered dead animals including dead pigs, horses and even roadkill. Ever hear of Kosher Gelatin? That just means they left the pigs out and this is not a joke. There is dextros and maltodextrin as well. I could go on and on but now when you shop you should read the labels and see these are in all foods it seems in the store and most if not all of them are not to keep it fresh but to pack on weight. It is true that Americans should exercise more but their diet is being spiked with high insulin causing additives and this is the real reason for our epidemic in obesity and diabetes. Perhaps they think this is how they can feed 7 billion people but it is causing the majority of our cancers, obesity and heart disease and the early death of millions.

[@lauristandley4359]

Good to know! I’m on the same diet! 😂 I’m now 70, so maybe 30 more years?? 😂

[@AliceinHollywood]

It’s ironic. I grew up outside of United states and my parents and grandparent owned a farmland, all they fed me was eggs from our chickens, goose meat and beef stews, lots of pork belly fat, lard, homemade butter, cheese, heavy cream from our cows, rabbit meat. No rice, or starches, we never needed bread, or macaroni, only organic veggies and berries from our garden. And I was always strong, never sick or fat, happy, healthy kid, super fit. And when I came to USA I was so surprised how many people were afraid of overeating eggs and avoided butter, everything low fat, so much salad. People were scared of high cholesterol like it’s some kind of disease or scary cancer. But in reality that is what made humans strong. I am so happy to see doctors finally talking about how meat, eggs and animal fats are essential for healthy body and brain function.

[@chrishoff402]

The only thing I can criticize for that might be rabbit meat. Rabbit starvation is a thing, the meat contains almost no oil and fat.

[@jackd1582]

@@chrishoff402 FFS .. read the WHOLE list again and think on the likely percentage🤷🤦

[@emmoji927]

@@chrishoff402 Rabbit starvation can only happen if you *only* eat extremely lean meats like rabbit or kangaroo with no fat source. It won't happen if you eat those meats sometimes, along with fattier meats like goose or pork, butter, lard, heavy cream, higher fat vegetation like coconut or avocado, etc.

[@mysticjedi6730]

Hopefully this is natural selection at work given the long term health outcomes of Eskimos eating like that.

[@GaryHighFruit]

"meat, eggs and animal fats are essential" Scientifically false. We ARE animals and make our own animal fats (just like the vegan animals you eat do)

[@enonknives5449]

Food companies: Everything in moderation. Also food companies: Bet you can't eat just one.

[@kateaye3506]

100% spot on.

[@michaelbarry8373]

Food, the new drug.(high processed)

[@lisamoag6548]

addicting sugar and chemicals

[@michaelkrull3331]

True gaslighting

[@charlestoast4051]

I've been low carb, almost carnivore for about 6 months now. I feel great, I've resolved arthritic pain and I'm the same weight as when I was in college 40 years ago. But I just can't convince many friends, relatives or co-workers of the benefit of giving up ultra-processed junk foods. The addiction is just so strong.

[@chuckleezodiac24]

yep. Amuricans want to eat yummy shit, loaf around and be given Magic Pills.

[@romanhoax9014]

*When they get sick, fat and inflamed enough they MAY ask you for some advice. You just have to let them reach the point where they don't want to be sick or in pain any more*

[@Mrs.TJTaylor]

Just keep showing them. That’s what I’m doing.

[@kenadams5504]

Even if ppl don't listen to your dietary advice , they still take note of real results from your diet.When processed food eventually makes them unhealthy with , say , hypertension......they will then think of your results and ask for advice.I know because thats what happened to me .

[@jasonmajere2165]

People have been lied to their whole life, their parent were also lied to their whole life. Unless they really want to change they won't.

[@algorillarithm5572]

It makes me sick ( with anger) that we keep paying the FDA to make us sick. HOW and WHEN do we change this for the health of the nation? Thank you Doctor P. and Nina Teicholz for this wonderful and desperately needed conversation!

[@johngalt3566]

What do you expect? It's the Oligarchic States of America.

[@mysticjedi6730]

Your stupid comment suggests people are following the recommendations... you are a fool to think that

[@gphilipc2031]

Remember who grows corn and wheat and follow the money.

[@mysticjedi6730]

@@gphilipc2031 I know... most crops are grown to feed factory farmed animals... which in turn is consumed causing huge amounts of heart disease, high blood pressure, impotence, weight gain... When I learned the thinnest healthiest longest living population ate low fat high carb plant based I felt I had no choice but to switch... not to mention all that environmental destruction to grow all those crops to feed the factory farmed animals (very inefficient wastful process) and the ethical issues as well.. I also learned the Eskimo high fat diet was extremely bad for health in the long run.. huge amounts of heart disease, etc... I have heard children with epilepsy benefit from high fat.. there is some evidence to support that.. I would at least suggest going high fat plant based and avoiding raising ldl over 70 and total over 150...

[@gphilipc2031]

@@mysticjedi6730

[@melbasfarm7500]

I went Keto with Intermittent Fasting 3 months ago and I have lost 37 pounds and I feel amazing. Cleared up my acne and my dr says I am no longer type 2 diabetic. She asked how I did it and then told me "Oh my goodness. Breakfast is the most important meal of the day. You should at least have a bowl of oatmeal or some toast for breakfast." I couldn't help but laugh. Meanwhile my A1C is down quite a lot and my skin is clear and I feel good. I started at 213lbs and now I am at 176. Thanks, doc. But, I think I'll stick with what I am doing. Dr. Purlmutter, I'm reading Drop Acid now and I thank you for the insights.

[@markwhite6782]

Nina Teicholz, Dr. Robert Lustig and Dr. Berg entered my life 2 years ago at age 59. I was on 7 medications, 4 prescription, had fatty liver disease and was sick. I was so uneducated on diet and nutrition and heavily addicted tro sugar. I'm now 52 pounds lighter, off all 7 medications, no longer insulin resistant and feel 20 years old again. I'm never going back to how I used to eat.

[@just-me6023]

@markwhite6782 congratulations!

[@ktcarl]

So how do you eat now?

[@markwhite6782]

@@ktcarl I eat a high fat, high protein diet. NO SUGAR and very few carbs. My diet would be referred to as Ketovore.

[@Theqpom]

Nina is a modern day hero. She changed my families life and eating strategy completely. Thank you from Canada.

[@kateaye3506]

Nina speaks, I listen.

[@kenadams5504]

Her lovely voice is like asmr.

[@xmarine11]

went from 270lbs to 180lbs on keto with intermitting fasting/ eating window of 6 hrs and moderate exercise (walking)... took a year and have never felt better.

[@mrsbootsworkouts]

wow, good for you!! how long did it take you to stop craving sugar and starch on keto?

[@xmarine11]

@@mrsbootsworkouts that was the worst ... I dropped smoking and never looked back but sugar OMG!!! I tried to use natural sweeteners but that only made things worse so I just stopped all and it took about 3 weeks before I no longer craved it. Here in TX we still get Cokes made with cane sugar and I have had that but not often... generally on the weekends when I tend to relax my diet. Since hitting my goal weight I have started pushing my boundaries but I still mostly eat whole food.

[@mj8495]

@@xmarine11Quitting cigarettes was easy compared to quitting sugar!!! I found the same thing with the cravings subsiding after 2-3 weeks. However I am rubbish at moderation, so I can't do cheat days or drink soda at all. Having been a binge eater for over 50 yearsI probably have consumed enough "treats" for 4-5 people, so I am content just eating real, whole food for life 😊

[@mamabear1187]

Did the same thing. Took a year down almost 100 pounds and feel like a teen again

[@SmokinPaul]

@@mrsbootsworkouts I used to drink ungodly amounts of soft drinks, energy drinks and junk food. I also ate good whole foods and exercised a lot which is probably why the bad diet didn't kill me. I was so insensitive to sweet taste that soda tasted like seltzer water. After about a month on very low no sugar diet I tried to drink a mountain dew and it tasted so sweet I literally couldn't stand it. I not only do not have cravings I literally hate the sweet taste. It blows my mind. When I eat a piece of cake or chocolate I feel a bit icky instead of craving more. It's all about changing your gut bacteria. When the sugar loving bacteria get replaced the new bacteria send signals of the vagus nerve to your brain that they're not happy with sugar and the associated bacteria messing up the place. 😁

[@chazwyman8951]

You can only ever effectively kick your body into burning its own fat if you avoid those damn carbs which switch on insulin and suppress leptin. Insulin is lipogenic, so it matters a great deal what you eat and not how many calories you eat. When you are burning your own fat you simply do not get biological hunger, only psychological "cravings". When I learned this, I was able to put behind me 40 years of eventually failing diets, yo-yoing back to being a fatty. 15 months ago I started low carb fasting. I lost 45lbs, dropped by A1c, increased HDL, lowered TGL, shrank by belly and fatty liver, stopped 3 medications and now am in the new normal of 1 or 2 meals a day. with all that weight still off. Thanks Nina Teicholz, Robert Lustig, Jason Fung, and Prandit Jamnadas.

[@jarichards99utube]

VERY WELL Said....! 😊 👍 -StayWell -70SomethingGuy

[@christinenaamani3128]

Perlmutter, Lustig, Gundry & Hyman ❤❤

[@jilltatehiggins]

I went off all simple carbs and sugar in September. I’m small and don’t weigh much but I kept losing weight. I’ve work with a nutritionist so I could continue the no carbs and vanquish prediabetes. My weight is back to where I was plus I no longer have prediabetes. My doctor ordered a fasting insulin and I’m sure it’s the lowest it’s ever been! I’ve had diabetes before and I’ve had gestational diabetes. I have beaten it back for 17 years! I now where a CGM and won’t change my eating to the bad old days😂😂😂

[@chazwyman8951]

@@jilltatehiggins Great to hear!!

[@chuckleezodiac24]

right on, bro. spread the word. Lust, Fung & Jam. my faves.

[@garyradley5694]

I am 70. In January my doctor informed me that my sugar levels A1c were diabetic, at 6.7. I was shocked, as I considered that I had a low sugar diet, no soft drink or ice cream etc. So I researched and decided to dry a Keto diet. Taken a while to initiate change, but I have now initiated changes to my diet that are not only sustainable but also enjoyable. After a blood test last week my A1c is now 5.3, normal, not even prediabetic. My blood pressure is now 130/85, when it was always 140/85. I have lost 7 kg ( 80kg down from 87kg ). I feel so much better. I sleep so much better. I used to wake up around 2pm and was restless for an hour or so. My skin seems to be much clearer. Reduced little red spots. Even if I miss a lunch I do not feel hungry. I cannot believe I have achieved so much in 3 months. Looking forward to refining my diet by trying new foods. Bought some Kimchi for the first time last week. It is delicious. Looking forward to trying some recipes that use it.

[@Notme-tq4xs]

You are on your way !

[@susanfunes5659]

Nina is so intelligent and strong. We need more people like her informing the world. She is literally saving lives. Bless her and all who support her. 🙏

[@guidedmeditation2396]

The food pyramid is a lie and upside down. Also In a perfect world we would eat seeds but zero grains and use only olive oil in foods. Never eat oats (Though I love them) never eat tomatoes or eggplant (though I love them) Like so many oils, tomato skins and seeds are what scar and damage your arteries which causes the plaque buildup. Its not clogged like a toilet. Our arteries clog from self healing. It is really more like a scab upon a scab upon a scab until it restricts the flow of blood. We all know you don't breath volcanic dust because it is like tiny super sharp glass dust that makes your lungs bleed. Have you noticed how itchy and caustic tomato plant stems and leaves can be on your skin? Eggplant and Tomato seeds and skin do to your artery walls what volcanic dust does to your lungs and when your body tries to heal the damage it causes the build up we have always blamed on fat.

[@p.jonaitis7952]

She's nothing short of a saint.

[@suprememasteroftheuniverse]

Not so intelligent if she repeats climate change bs propaganda.

[@songmlf]

She's bought and paid for by the beef industry. People love to hear good new about their bad habits.

[@jx__xj6308]

@@songmlf 100%. She's a shill.

[@keriwilliams8980]

When I was 20 yrs old and started hearing eggs and butter was bad and man-made margarine and egg substitutes were good, I knew something was really wrong. Fast forward about 45 yrs and thanks to real Dr's like you I've figured out whats real. I'm down 80 lbs and feel great by elimination carbs and especially SUGAR. It does concern me that almost ALL our foods are sooo dependant on chemicals to grow, animals included. However with my inflammation completely gone and the ability to buy produce directly from producers im able to reduce that also. Thanks for your invaluable info. I'm a deciple. I eat so much less and NO hunger pangs. I find it fascinating that critics use smarmy, personal attacks to belittle divergent views. Thanks!!!!!

[@ragepig1059]

You've illustrated perfectly the danger of listening to experts and authotiris on subjects that should be of the purview of common sense. Our senses. Common senses.

[@versatec1]

We've been lied to intentionally because it's depopulation they've been trying to depopulate us for a long long time I can remember when they said don't eat more than three eggs a week and eat absolutely no fat whatsoever..... lying evil scum

[@guidedmeditation2396]

The funny thing about Margarine is it is one molecule away from being PLASTIC. And then they add butter flavor to it. And when you want to make plastic you can turn peanut oil and other oils into plastic by changing the molecules to make perhaps biodegradeable plastic bags and plastic cups. Imagine if walmart bags tasted like butter or icecream and you could eat them after you get your groceries home? Eating margarine is much the same experience and not a good idea.

[@1timbarrett]

Egg substitutes - that powdered stuff- was the red flag for me!😮

[@robertwilliams-wd6cp]

These facts alone should be evidence the powers that be are , not in our best interest, as in the COVID stupidity.

[@carolzhou8478]

Like NT, I was a "healthy" vegetarian/vegan. My cupboard was stocked with all kinds of whole grains: wheat, teff, buckwheat, wild rice, and several others. I baked my own bread. I ate organic. I was so sick, and getting fat. I will never forget the day I cleared out all that carbohydrate garbage and started LCHF. Within a few weeks my health improved greatly and continued to improve in the long run. That was 10 years ago. I will never go back.

[@adamesd3699]

Yeah, don’t do a diet. Instead, do a lifestyle change. I did and lost 40 pounds. I didn’t diet. Actually, I ate as much as I wanted. Here’s what I did: 1. Avoided processed carbs 2. Avoided bread and pasta 3. Ate more vegetables 4. Ate more avocados 5. Moved more (walked lots) 6. Didn’t eat at night (this was the hardest part) 7. Really avoided sugar 8. Avoided diet drinks And that’s it. It was shockingly simple actually. Didn’t feel better or worse, didn’t have more or less energy. Had no positive or negative effects at all except that I was 40 pounds lighter. Hope this is useful for you.

[@wendyscott8425]

I started my 40-pound weight loss by deciding I would not snack at all after dinner. I had a late breakfast the next day and felt fine. I'm still abiding by this practice unless I have friends over for a movie when I will have popcorn that I pop myself with coconut oil and ghee, but that's only maybe twice a month. So far, so good. I got used to not snacking, and I never think about it now.

[@teeaymusik9811]

Thats actually what i would call a diet lmao!

[@bonnieo8]

I’d call that a “low-carb” diet, myself. 😊

[@Joy80JJ]

Sick of these elites trying to make everyone of us eat the same. We are all different & some foods make people sick. We should be allowed to choose what we want to consume. Follow the 'MONEY' is key. Great interview.

[@wesoz1950]

​@Majestic Artimus Have you tried activating nuts by soaking them in salt water to reduce phytic acid? Once activated you need to put then into a food hydrator until they are crunchy again.

[@kenadams5504]

Processed food affects more ppl than we realise .Its not just a section of Society with Food Sensitivities .Our liver can only metabolise a small amount of sugar per day...so PF's with added sugar /high carb amounts overload our liver resulting in elevated insulin that drives chronic illnesses that we can't cure . We are being bio-hacked by Smart Food Industry making astronomical Profits at the expense of our health .

[@leejim9188]

@joy80, first of all, stop calling these idiots "elites" nothing elite about anyone... be an independent thinker...

[@ragepig1059]

Or you know just eat meat 🤣 jeez go through all that work just to eat nut sludge omg

[@jhenyalovering41]

​@Majestic Artimus your body is rejecting them because they are VERY toxic, loaded with oxylates.

[@radioaxe6964]

Nina is a champion ❤ Thank you so much Nina for your relentless public speaking the truth 👍

[@RoelieOelofse]

I was overweight, on my way to become diabetic and just miserable because of my diet. I started following Prof Tim Noakes on LCHF and he recommended Nina’s book and I read it like it was a Tom Clancy novel. It changed my life, I lost 30kgs and I have tons of energy and it’s so easy to keep the weight off by simply staying away from carbs and sugar.

[@mysticjedi6730]

Hopefully this is natural selection at work given the long term health outcomes of Eskimos eating like that.

[@dawnlorraineskincare]

One of my favorite humans on the planet. The entire course of my life and health has been forever changed by this brave womans work.

[@CapWalks1]

I've been on keto for a few years. Comparing my pre-keto bloodwork with my post-keto bloodwork, my lipids improved under keto. LDL - went from 145 to 108; HDL - went from 63 to 74; triglycerides from 67 to 57; A1C went from 5.7 to 5.2. Overall, my bloodwork IMPROVED while doing keto but not massively so. However, I am 30 lbs lighter which I think is HUGE. The big change has been my energy. I retired at 63, overweight and exhausted. On keto, I've failed at retirement and started a ship surveying business and very busy. I have also started playing squash at the YMCA. I have a massive amount of energy compared to pre-keto. The other day, I was inspecting a ship and going into cargo and ballast tanks. The much younger crew couldn't keep up with me.

[@livelearnandteach7402]

The plant based message is a crime against humanity. The question we all need to ask is are each of us part of the resistance or a collaborator.

[@darylaarons6625]

Thank you guys soooo much for spreading the word. I went on a ketogenic diet a few years ago because I wanted to lose some weight. What I didn’t count on was how amazing I felt. My arthritic pain started to subside, I had a mental clarity that I never experienced before in my life and my energy level was much higher. I was excited to share this way of eating with my overweight family, but it was just falling on deaf ears. As a matter of fact, some were criticizing me for being too lean when I never felt so good in my life. Unbelievable!

[@mysticjedi6730]

Hopefully this is natural selection at work given the long term health outcomes of Eskimos eating like that.

[@kathrynbarbara967]

Sick of WEF suggestions, they do not act in the interests of human population.

[@hunggoatowner3888]

they will ruin the whole globe the net 1-2 years, famine on the rice and carboon footprint tracket, cbdc etc. Theese sickos needs to be removed from power.

[@billk122]

WEF are more interested in killing us. I did like what Nina had to say however. We are messing up the earth but climate change is just a for profit business promotined by bill gates and his buddy’s.

[@waynerichardson1051]

Exactly!! They're Narcissistic Psychopaths!!

[@annettecabezas6697]

No they don’t. We are just cattle for the elite. It’s scary and some people would never imagine something like this. We have been deceived 😢

[@JohnSmith-qz1zp]

Protein keeps you full. Carbs make you hungry and addicted.

[@tonystonebraker]

350 in April of 2022, 222 April of 2023. Whole food, low refined carbs, intermittent fasting and no sugary drinks has made a huge difference.

[@heide-raquelfuss5580]

I got horrible health, because i grew up mostly non carnivore, eggs. Mostly grains, sugary things, cereals, bread, milk, baby formula. After that, as an adult, i ate mostly pasta, bread, little veggies ( no much veggies, fruit, because i did not liked them as a child and adult ). I developed asthma drinking processed milk during my pregmancy ( my baby was born with excema and bronchial weezing ). At the same time i ate mostly again pasta, bread and y also had horrible asthma attacks every day eating grains and drinking milk. Soon after i allways felt in a coma like state after eating this and drinking milk. Later i could not eat anything without turning in a coma state after eating. For decades. I can only eat before bed time to avoid getting completaly exhausted and horrible attacks of sleep- coma. I now eat meat every week and i allready feel things changing in my health. Its a very long road. If we can not buy meat, organs, fatty, eggs anymore, i think i better die. Because i do not want to live with my health issues anymore and mental breakdowns. I blame all doctors who did not help me out, instead made no real difference and ruined my health more.

[@kimcochran5262]

I agree Dr.'s just don't know the proper Lifestyle chages to make . They have been drinking the coolaide for so long !!! I to was just given more med's...I am a Type 2 Diabetic. I have been Ketovor for 7 months now. Down to my high school weight...building muscle too ! My HbA1c is below 6 now. Triglycerides are low, HDL up ! Take way less med's now !!!

[@fact-o-pedio4603]

My mother is 62 has never eaten any eggs or meat in her life she hardy gets to have any fruit and vegetables to eat in weak , most of her diet is lentils and legumes ,she is fine without any problems. My father who ate a lot of meat during his youth is now suffering from diabetes and takes a diabetes pill every day.

[@heide-raquelfuss5580]

@@fact-o-pedio4603 With the right diet, you can reverse diabetes. See> Dr. Ken Berry Dr. Erik Berg Dr. Jason Fung > also interresting. Dr. Sten Ekberg > also interresting. Dr. Peter Osborne > also interresting. Probably it is not the meat, who caused diabetes, but other things he drinks/eats. I hope your father finds something useful to get better. Be blessed.

[@kimcochran5262]

@@fact-o-pedio4603 I would not be surprised to here your father eats starches, sugar, Carbo's with seed oils And is overweight. Is this the case?

[@fact-o-pedio4603]

@@kimcochran5262 That is exactly what our entire family eats. Meat is expensive in India. And it's literally impossible to find red meat because of religious taboo. My father is now losing weight because of diabetes. Diabetes is killing him from inside. He occassionally does eat eggs .One thing I must say about my mother, although she does not suffer from any major illness ,but because she is aging now and still does most of the household chores she does feels weak and exhausted now more than ever before.

[@tallesttreeintheforest]

our dietary recommendation is about creating markets for crony multinational corporations, the war on beef and saturated fats is so ridiculous.

[@jenniecullen5316]

I have been keto and mostly lectin and dairy free for 7 years. The KZbin community of doctors have been my only support. People would rather stick to the junk and pop the pills.

[@golflouis52]

Multiple Kudos for Nina... all the work she did and the lives she saved... mine included 🎉🎈🥁

[@tammy-lynnstewart5677]

I dropped the junk carbs (Yes, they were an addiction) and most fruits in January this year, started walking several kms/day. I throw in a 1 day fast once or twice a week depending on how I ate that week. I've dropped over 30 pounds and feel great! Started weight training too. Not always possible with life stuff going on to eat only whole foods but most of the time I do. I only have about 10 pounds to go as far as fat loss but I'm being more active on the weight training so probably won't see the loss on the scale but more my shape in general and how clothes fit. There are abs under that barrel! Stuff no longer jiggle when I walk. I can even run some now. Getting stronger!

[@jessicajohnson4087]

I love this! I'm 60 and lost 160 lbs by eating LCHF keto and fasting. It reversed ALL my health issues and I'm in the best health and shape as I have ever been! All thanks to watching videos just like this one, following Dr. Perlmutter, Dr. Jason Fung, Dr. Berg and the other doctors on "my team". I'm so thankful for all you do 🙏🥰

[@irenecleary4516]

God Bless her. She is a voice of reason. I have watcher her speak and she astounds me.

[@KirstiCheetahh]

When I eat grains, legumes and sugar I get terrible tendon pains. When I eat beef and saturated fats I feel very healthy, strong and emotionally stable!

[@versatec1]

Yep

[@betsyc6055]

Personally, I did horribly on keto - the worst calf cramps ever and then I was really cranky. The only relief was to increase the carbs. I felt better on vegan but it was hard to maintain. The thing that has been absolutely transformative to me has been the glucose revolution - reducing glucose spikes, while maintaining a whole foods diet and taking berberine. Within 2 weeks of that I felt like a new person and started losing weight and was able to narrow my food window without trying. I sleep better, feel more peaceful, and don't have any cravings. I can eat some fats like butter, ghee, avocado and coconut oil and stay away from eating lots of fruits, but I can eat them if I eat food in the order of veggies, fats and proteins, starchy foods, and then fruit. It totally works too. I think I will be settling on the Mediterranean Diet because that's the best studied in terms of longevity. For me, I want lots of phytonutrients and enough protein while avoiding glucose spikes. That has been totally key.

[@bonnieo8]

There were other ways to deal with the leg cramps. I know because I had them too, but I applaud you for eating your version of healthy.

[@enidcronin9704]

I have been low carb now for 20months and 110lbs loss I started because of mobility issues now resolved and diabetes which has improved vastly and with a family history of dementia and being aged 64 is a concern. Mentally I have never been so on the ball as I am now. I don't consider it a diet its now a way of life. I stick to below 30grams carbs very often below 20. Thank you for this talk.

[@PT-tw6kg]

Same here.

[@versatec1]

Well done...shame the globalists are coming for the meat.....I wonder why?

[@lucyheart8033]

Enid, can you give me an example of what you eat in a day. I am around your age and curious. I like plant based diet and keto. I don’t eat any processed foods or sodas.

[@enidcronin9704]

I eat once a 4 days a week then twice a day 2 days a week and then a 30 hour fast. I eat meat such as lamb chops or belly pork and veg such as cabbage,sprouts, leeks etc. In summer I eat more salad with Tuna,sardines or steak on my 2 days I'll throw in an omelette in the morning. I enjoy almonds as well. Since posting I am now. 124lbs loss and completely off all diabetic medicine as Hba1c has dropped right down. Am looking and feeling great.

[@dooshimastone]

It’s a shame how big companies own many so called health and food research.

[@janetmcg3086]

I think I’ve read that there’s companies that basically play both sides. One part will sell products that may damage your health, while another part will develop and sell drugs to ‘cure’ you.

[@driftingdynamic]

I thought I would never be able to give up bread. After a week of eating the correct foods, never even temps me anymore. I was the type to turn anything into a sandwich and a loaf of bread wouldn't last more than two days around me. Eating right kills all cravings for garbage.

[@driftingdynamic]

@Sean G I can see that happening. Luckily I still have no cravings. Grats on making it two years before you had some.

[@rebekahlow5957]

Thank you so much for this very interesting conversation. You both are my mentors. I hope as many people as possible get to see this video. The information is so clearly explained. It’s so sad that our government in our medical system have let us down for decades when it comes to nutrition. But each of us makes a difference when we make wise choices. Thanks again! Love from Vermont

[@Mrs.TJTaylor]

Nina Teicholz and the late Dr. Sarah Hallberg are brave and so very smart. So much respect!

[@juliarice4031]

Those two intelligent brave women saved my life! No more T2D and drugs for me!

[@Mrs.TJTaylor]

@@juliarice4031 Me too. I was bedridden for two years before I found them. I thank God for them.

[@aprilek6003]

Nina is amazing. I had the pleasure of meeting her at low carb boca. Thanks to her and so many others, many have improved their health and health span. So very very grateful. Love your work as well Dr. P

[@cws.4915]

Nina, I absolutely love your book, The Big Fat Surprise and purchased when it came out and I'm rereading it again! It made a difference in my life and with those I've shared this information with. Thank you!!!!

[@creepycrespi8180]

Dude, Nina is not just cool she is a rock star.

[@iancormie9916]

The food industry is the same as the smoking industry in the 1960s. The tobacco industry did their best to convince the populace that smoking was good. You are correct to follow the money - at the very least it points out who has the most to lose.

[@mpoharper]

I really don`t understand the backlash against Nina and Keto. Her message has been life saving for me.

[@lifestationexpresslinda9425]

$$$ can't make it if people are healthy

[@YasminA-jm9zs]

Such a well-spoken guest! And Dr. Perlmutter sharp as always 💕

[@Krunch2020]

Thank you Dr. Perlmutter for changing my diet 10 years ago with your book Grain Brain. Unfortunately most scientists and doctors are corporate pawns with no autonomy. Our tribe of Keto/ carnivores would certainly be in the dark without you.

[@alinao625]

Astounding information! Thank you for enlightening us!🎉❤

[@Ketoswammy]

Nina is my favorite keto hero.

[@RonMac08]

No wonder I gained weight in the army. We exercised every day and ran three miles a day along with 20 km road marches once a week, and I still had trouble maintaining my weight. The only time I lost weight in the army was when I was deployed. My work day was often 20 to 30 hours at a time, sometimes only one meal a day, and very little sleep. One week I had a total of 11 hours of sleep. No wonder I spent most of the year with brain fog.

[@billmitchell1955]

Welcome to the dystopian future where government tells you what you can say, read, and eat.

[@ph0605]

There used to be 60 million bison roam North America, now there's only 300,000 bison AND 28 million cows (for food). There are nowhere near as many "cattle head" as there were in the 19th century. Blaming cattle for carbon issues is not fair.

[@drchrisgrayson2042]

Hello 👋🏻 Beautiful Lady 🌹,How are you and the weather condition like today?

[@lisafaser6031]

Great interview. Thank you so much!❤🙏🏻❤️

[@gingebrien2408]

Nina albeit I agree somewhat with you regarding diets, I have found the Carnivore diet not the case. Actually I’m never really hungry & feel immensely better. I have remained on the diet for over 2 years now. I have during hollidays I have cheated with old family favorites. My tastes have changed. The foods I once craved and truly died for don’t enjoy them as once’s did. And after eating felt bloated and lousy reinforcing my path on the Carnivore diet. As a physician those who chose to experiment with a strict Carnivore diet have improved greatly with their chronic illnesses and no longer need medication. Yes diet is putting me out of business. Please climate change is a total hoax. What percentage of our atmosphere is CO2? 0.04% and that is necessary for the planet to exist. Climate change is a way to charge people to breathe. More CO2 plants grow better. Climate change is a political conspiracy to redistribute wealth and control the world’s population. Dr. Ginge. Yes like De. Pearlmutter says you are a hero on presenting the lack of science in the American Nutritional Guidelines.

[@jackd1582]

You're not a cat Ginge

[@gingebrien2408]

@@jackd1582 never claimed to be one. As Nina will tell you nutritional science is for most part garbage. Go carnivore for a month. After the first week of bowel adjustment you will feel immensely better. You will sleep better, your mood will be better, more energy, no bloating, no flatus. No hunger, your grocery bill will be cut in half as all you will be purchasing is meat, salt, butter, eggs. Meow 😁.

[@theskyehiker]

That lancet study called the diet “keto like” and they defined it as 40% carbs. Not what any of us would call low carb.

[@drewfuerstenberger4675]

What’s interesting is folks like Nina or Dr. Lustig have seen through the matrix of the food industrial complex but, in my opinion, still can’t see through other establishment tropes. You know they are close and maybe privately they feel a certain way, but publicly they have to maintain a certain posture given where they work or went to school. I’ll take what I can get and appreciate what Nina is doing to help tackle the FIC and the slop they sell!

[@mhaas281]

The food and pharmaceutical industry are collaborating together to keep people sick and on some form of medication. Just look at all the constant advertising for garbage food and medication on the TV.

[@wendyscott8425]

Dr. Lustig, the author of _Metabolical,_ has retired from UCSF. Nina T., the author of _The Big Fat Surprise,_ is a science writer by trade and doesn't work for anyone, so I don't know what you're talking about. Please explain.

[@betsyc6055]

These same dynamics were in action during the pandemic. I didn't buy it for the reasons articulated in this discussion!

[@cassandrabond2315]

I was a 1970's kid. I ate Weetabix with sugar and milk plus 2 slices of toast with butter an marmalade, 1 peanut butter sandwich for lunch, some meat and potato, ice cream and chocolate sauce every night for dinner. Then there was the snacks of my own caramel made of sweetened condensed milk, brown sugar and butter. And my mum used to buy me huge blocks of chocolate. But thank goodness the bread was brown! 😂. At least we ate butter no margarine.

[@drchrisgrayson2042]

Hello 👋🏻 Beautiful Lady 🌹,How are you and the weather condition like?

[@CD318]

Nina ROCKS--love her!

[@elizabethjones4959]

Started keto in January, down 32 pounds, so easy, not hungry.

[@225rip]

Thanks for all of your hard work.

[@anielyantra1]

Nina is one of my heroes! Nina tells us what not to eat, and who not to listen to....but it is Amber O'Hearn that details what to eat. Introduction of the lipivore. Brain size and chemistry is related to food content as any neurologist should know!

[@JohnSmith-qz1zp]

I always used butter never margarine! Those better than meat products have two hundred chemicals who wants to eat that?

[@ligiasommers]

Amazing episode, thank you , I will save this talk 🙏🏻🌹✨🙏🏻

[@davidr1431]

Fabulous conversation. Nina is amazing!

[@sinemis1989]

Mr. Perlmutter, I bought and read your book Grain Brain. I want to thank you for your lifetime effort. You have saved many lives. Greetings from Türkiye. 🥰

[@SoloRenegade]

Carnivore diet had me losing weight and gaining muscle within 1week. I also felt better overall, and had more energy and could get out of bed easier in the morning and have a desire to exercise more.

[@erudicity1126]

Excellent, transparent and honest discussion of the pertinent factors in this space

[@Katlady-rs4eg]

Dr. Perlmuuter, thank you so much for interviewing Nina!! Excellent interview!!!

[@stevel9914]

Atkins wasn't the first , but he was telling you this back in the 60's, appreciate that these people are contnuing the good work, but some credit should go the fella who advocated against the food pyramid very early on in the US food strategy (or con)

[@gstewartTube]

Terrific interview!

[@lawrencestovall7680]

Thank both of you very much for an outstanding conversation about a topic very important to me. The dates about the early 80s are correct about the obesity rate. I was in the military during that period and started to notice soldiers starting to become disqualified for retention due to being overweight. That trend continued to get worst until I retired after 30 years. When I came in the military in 1955 no one had a weight problem, ever. That is not the case now in the military. I am not overweight now and never was, but I also never followed the US guidelines about the way I should eat. It just never made any sense to me to consume the amount of carbs that was being pushed. The name of your book Nina say it correct. But just think about how long we have been living the big lie about what we should eat and how many people have died trying to follow those rules. You are so right about the old outdated moderation rule. The US can and should look at the effects of obesity on having a Ready Force . That mean joining the force and retaining what you have. Someone need to wake up or we are going to be in it deep.

[@RV-there-Yet]

🎯"food pyramid" will surely GIVE us "a very fat bottom" as well~ YES. Interesting to note that, as a mother raising my children, I made myself eat a low-fat/grain-heavy diet for decades. Yet something innately drove me to feed my children extra protein & fat, & very little grains or other sugars. I believe it was based on my knowledge of the composition in breast milk~ which is what they start out on. Something told me that it only made sense to continue feeding them what I had learned would support their developing brains & bodies, but I didn't apply it to myself. Perhaps I also figured I was already 'corrupted' into buying off on the propaganda, but I wasn't going to have any such thing for my children? I'm not sure, but I am certainly grateful to have the knowledge available now, at 57 yrs old & reversing decades of damage done while NOT eating an optimal diet. So truly grateful to all who have invested themselves into the research & then providing it for the rest of us. THANK YOU.

[@TCAPRecipes]

Her book is one of my favorites

[@terrydaigle8356]

If your liver can make glucose when needed why eat carbohydrates

[@romanhoax9014]

@@MajesticArtimus *All the macro and micronutrients you need are found in meat, fish and eggs. Secondly fibre is absolutely not necessary, NO carbs of any kind are needed. Fibre is an insoluble poly-saccharide (many sugars) which is a type of carb, therefore NOT required*

[@jackd1582]

@@romanhoax9014 Sorry , but they aren't

[@EnvironmentalCoffeehouse]

This was an excellent podcast. Thank you so much, I shared it with my family. I have done keto before and then I stopped gained all the way back plus more, and now I have lost 15 pounds since April 24 and I will never go back. No more medication, it's a stellar way to live. I was not even prediabetic, but I was taking two very strong medication's from my rheumatologist for the inflammation I was suffering, and it is all gone.

[@healthyhabits_1]

Thank you for sharing, very informative.

[@tallesttreeintheforest]

i have been on a beef, dairy and saturated fat diet for almost a year now.. easy going.

[@alangeorgebarstow]

I've bee eating very high (animal) fat, high (animal) protein, no carb, no sugar, no alcohol diet for months. I am thriving on it and I shall not 'give up' after six months.

[@austinroberson8]

It’s sad because both my parents currently have dementia. My mom’s had it for 5 years and still recognizes me , hers is really slow. My dad has had it for less than 6 months and I’m pretty sure he won’t recognize me 3 months from now. They both eat terrible diets and I tried to get them to go keto two years ago but they can’t give up carbohydrates. I am currently eating ketovore and haven’t felt this good since high school. No one deserves to have to go thru this. I tell anyone that will listen to go keto/carnivore now because the damage start long before the symptoms show up.

[@carolineknupffer2247]

Great interview!!! Thank you from Germany

[@giuseppebonelli9512]

Beautiful soul, amazing information. Everyone should know about it.

[@dieselbourbon3728]

The WEF diet is great slave diet. Continuous hunger is great for profits. Continuous illness is great for profits. Eager compliance is great for slave control.

[@EduardQualls]

Nina is great! As for me, I was borderline veg, but went keto/low-carb about 6 months ago, with a base of 6 eggs and 1/2 lb of beef a day. My weight has stayed at 220 (c. 6' tall) while my belly fat has shrunk and, because of hitting the gym 3-days-on/one-day-off, I'm at c. 18% body fat, with shoulders that are twice as wide as my waist. For the first time in years, my triglycerides are well within range, my A1C is normal, my BP is back down. Oh, and most people at the gym think I'm 45-50 yrs old, and say I'm "Jacked," even though I'm in my 70th year of life.

[@BigSlimyBlob]

I get a lot of information online and don't generally bother buying books, but I got The Big Fat Surprise. Not only is it interesting but I think that it's a small way to "vote" with what little money I have.

[@mnyshrpknvs]

I'm no longer offering advice or telling people what I eat and how I eat. No one wants to listen even after they ask.🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@1timbarrett]

The way I figure it, I want to see others take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for their life choices. If I impose my own personal choices, by definition others’ cannot take PERSONAL credit. 🤔

[@RonBaker456]

Lost 100 lbs last year in my early 50's after going carnivore for 9 months. I am still down 90 lbs after a week at Disney :-) and confident now it will be easier than ever to shed. My wife also lost 60lbs. To say discovering keto was life changing would be undercutting it. I needed to be convinced to make that kind of a change and Nina does a great job of pulling back the curtain allowing us to shed false beliefs we've been indoctrinated with since our youth. Thanks to folks like her and Dr Perlmutter the word is spreading (albeit slowly). I know I sing keto's praises whenever I have the opportunity. Anything but the SAD.

[@xelakram]

A very interesting discussion. Thank you!

[@maryannehill8821]

Wow wow and wow Nina is amazing! And living in the UK let’s hope England can lead the way I am right behind the low carb/Keto way of living. It’s been wonderfully transforming for me 🙏🏻👍🏻👍👏xoxo

[@shaunsmith8071]

I don’t think the super super rich, are going to stop eating meat, never seen a king just eat grain and veg, think about it.

[@mlong1958]

I've been carnivore for a month now. Gout, gone. Inflammation in knee and shoulder, gone. Fasting insulin down from 47.7 to 31.9, and that was at 2 weeks. Down 25 lbs., in 30 days. Best part is that I'm never hungry.

[@barbaralopez265]

Thank you Dr. Perlmutter - you are creating an awareness by having these podcasts. Just got her book and listening to all the material I can. I cried

[@ralomicron]

Intermittent fasting, like 16 to 20 hrs, seems to be something I can do forever. I have been doing it for 5 years or more and don't have reson to stop. I'm not 100%, but most of the time, I don't think about it, and it's something I do most of the time.

[@wendyscott8425]

I hear that varying the time and frequency of fasting is good for the body. You might try it to see how that works.

[@samueln714]

A higher LDL number means absolutely nothing. Please watch Dr Mason. Low triglycerides and high HDL are keys to heart health. Saturated fat is what makes these numbers improve and is extremely healthy. Seed oils and polyunsaturated fat is what will kill you. Even my own doctor has no clue and I explained it all with video evidence of my claims. Sad that the people who take care of your health are the ones that kill you.

[@tomneo2004]

Not exactly what Dr Mason say is good or bad LDL is depending on size of LDL so there are size which is good and some size which is bad. But in general LDL is essential to human body

[@SmokinPaul]

@@tomneo2004 No, LDL is good, oxidized LDL is very bad. LDL is a lipo protein that transports fat and cholesterol to where it's needed. As it drops off it's cargo it gets smaller and then gets recycled by the liver. LDL gets oxidized by sugar and seed oils (vegetable oils). If your LDL is even slightly oxidized it doesn't get recycled and the macrophages have a hard time eliminating them. The oxidized LDL and Macrophages contribute to plaque build up in the arteries.

[@tomneo2004]

@@SmokinPaul yes you are right but I heard glycation term now you say oxidation that’s kind of confusing. Btw I was referring to ldl type B which rarely got test from hospital.

[@SmokinPaul]

@@tomneo2004 basically damaged LDL is a problem, undamaged isn't. There's a new LDL test to test for oxidized LDL that most doctors don't even know about. Unfortunately most doctors don't know shit. 😁

[@tomneo2004]

@@SmokinPaul ya agree the damaged one is bad. Some doctor like the one I asked know about it and told me that test is expensive. Even doctor know about it they just completely ignored and not telling us. Hidden truth.

[@FOX007-um1wr]

I have a cook book written in 1902 by Fanny Farmer and used as a text book for Harvard University for practical nursing. Her recipies are amazing, and she is cooking with fats. She explains different diets for different situations. This includes diets for the bed ridden, diabeticts, those who are recovering from the flu, etc. I also just watched a video that was about grocery shopping created in the 50's that said you must eat 1 egg everyday because they are nutrient dence. What has happened between now and then?

[@coding7196]

I love the brave people who are speaking up against the corporate creeps who are killing us.

[@lindyvandenbosch9539]

Diets fail at 6 months? Mine fails at 6 hours

[@romanhoax9014]

*Got to go Keto/Ketovore or Carnivore then*

[@klane8445]

I watched your debate with Dr David Katz and I thought you did an excellent job and held your own, yes it was stacked in his favour with his supporters in the crowd!

[@cindy4678]

I could never eat like that. My Blood Glucose would go crazy and I would definately be a diabetic instead of avoiding it by my mostly meat based diet.

[@robertwilliams-wd6cp]

Nina, what a great name of truth.

[@martyi398]

Great interview, growing up as a young man working as a construction labor doing hard physical work everyday, for lunch and dinner my body craved real food primarily protein from meat, High carb and sweet sugary foods wouldn’t cut it and would leave me feeling lethargic, similar to today 40 years later if I’m listening intently to my body and I’m satisfied with what I’m eating it’s going to be real food!

[@skinnydee1886]

Dr. Nina knows exactly what she's speaking about; I love listening to her, she speaks so softly. This was a very interesting podcast and I enjoyed it! Thanks to her and Dr. David; God bless you both 🙏

[@alexr6114]

Quiet competence is very impressive!