The Big Lie about Trigger Points (Knots) & How to Get Rid of Them.

"Famous" Physcial Therapists Bob Schrupp and Brad Heineck discusols the big lie that is often stated about trigger points. They also present ways in which to treat trigger points effectively.
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[@nywvblue]

After 20+ years of chiropractic and massage therapy to help with a permanent knot in my right trap, I found a chiro who did trigger point therapy aggressive enough to make professional wrestlers cry (so he said on his web site). Within 30 mins of his applying constant, deep tissue pressure with his knuckle, I was bawling and that trap released -- finally -- FINALLY -- and has never bothered me since! That's one of a few moments of real healing in my life... Whew! To those who suffer, don't give up!

[@ross3749]

I have a permanent knot close to my spine under my shoulder blade. Could you tell me who and where this chiro is ?

[@nywvblue]

@@ross3749 He's since retired, I regret to say. I found him by doing a local search for a chiropractor and "trigger point therapy" - that was the key thing.

[@ross3749]

I’ve been borderline suffering from a work related injury for 6 years. It’s moved to my neck and mid back and I can’t find an anwser for it anywhere

[@alexandermenelik1393]

Or try dry needling .

[@thomastucker4975]

Shoot. I had gotten into a car accident in 2008 and was in a car collision from behind as we spun off road and hit a giant boulder and when the hit took place from tge trunk to the backseat was crushed, and i was shot underneath my seatbelt and back into the backseat where i got done like an accordion basically. Anyhoo one day it was storming outside and when lightning struck down real close by outside it caused me to jerk, and the next thing you know it was like my hips were unraveling. I had been to the Airosti treatment place before and he had told me it looked like i had about 85% hip rotation restriction so of course since then its given me so many sensations and at first i was straight up hallucinating… or maybe i wasnt?! Human body is crazy. Still goin through some stuff. Was also an atheist before it happened lol, no mas.

[@donnachatterton6298]

I pray that Bob is doing better. Give him the love of everyone he’s helped. Love and appreciate you to Brad.

[@miketaylor00]

What happened to him?

[@Loufi303]

When I lived in the US I adored CAR TALK on pbs radio, each Saturday morning, presented by two gregarious auto mechanics, Tom and Ray Magliozzi. I think of you guys as 'body mechanics' and your channel as BODY TALK :)

[@yassineo727]

that s what I thought when I saw the video , click and clack god bless them

[@nothing3376]

I know this comment is old but you’re so right!

[@singram]

I've often thought of them as being quite similar to Click and Klack!

[@amandathompson3889]

Loufi303 reminds me of Car Talk also! I love these guys

[@ALCRAN2010]

Unfortunately, one of the brothers died

[@catcho4868]

I love the chemistry between these two. I love that I'm not only learning, but have it explained by passionate people ♥

[@edreed5571]

11:01 lmao

[@eriksaari4430]

very gayrotic

[@jtaylor8606]

They remind me of Bert and Ernie

[@littlebrownbird8020]

@@jtaylor8606 yes!

[@miketaylor00]

I'm so glad these guys found each other. Few lovers can work together and maintain this kind of relationship.

[@bejoyful]

So happy I found you two, you bring help almost through a friendly comedy team. your patients are fortunate to have your care.

[@Copperfeel808]

These guys are having the time of their lives.

[@philmiller6923]

Yes they are! God bless em

[@malenkas3]

Of course, they're fucking superstars

[@srock7967]

And because of that, it’s a joy to watch them!

[@MsValeriaHeart]

Each only has one life so “time of their life”

[@briansmith9258]

Right as everyone should.

[@faithfultita1585]

Thank you guys! I have fibromyalgia, overuse syndrome, back, and hip pain. Sometimes, I can't breath from the pain between my shoulder blades that's when I use one tennis ball in the sock, against the wall. It works every time. There's so much we can do to help ourselves when we get to know our body. I'm 68 years old with all body pain (since 1980), with the exception of my hair and nails. I take supplements, an occasional Tylenol, eat very healthy, walk daily, gardening, and PRAY always. No medication.💐🕊

[@Truerealism747]

Have you got pain everyday

[@user-hq5ps7dx7d]

Adopt me pleas

[@megaMEXN]

I feel like the 90's never went away.

[@acch1339]

Simpler and better times.

[@DivineArtemis]

Except that youtube didn't exist in the 90s

[@ShazWag]

These two remind me of Bert and Ernie from Sesame Street 😆

[@amigadecachorros]

I dont have any reason to watch these videos but I do.

[@TorontoIam]

+citzenslaps LOOOOOLLL

[@misaelcruz1435]

Lucky

[@friendlyfire7509]

Knowledge is power.

[@lisadee0276]

lol

[@Mettelor]

Are you my spirit animal?

[@nickruby570]

With an intro like that there’s no way you can question their legitimacy !

[@BobandBrad]

How nice of you say:)

[@Runcible2010]

Not so fast. Why did they overlook the Vulcan death grip?

[@DickRileyTheConquistador]

@@BobandBrad How about a shiatsu massager for the spot insted of tennis balls?

[@Angela27227]

🤣

[@leept4921]

kind of like celino &barnes pf PT

[@021490NMCKENZIE]

These guys saved my back at a time where I could not afford to go see a chiropractor even cured the numbness that was radiating down my arm to my hand 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 … may god bless you 🙏🏽

[@toddwareham]

I've had this pain in my upper back for over a month now. Watching this and doing the neck exercises helped almost instantly. Thanks guys

[@mssande211]

Bob: “We finish each others’ s..” Brad: “Sandwiches! I know!”

[@Jenbarnes73]

Hahahha awesome

[@Divchyk]

subverting the common joke with "sandwiches" is not original: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5mqmYWHjNmMrqM starts at 0:39 .There are lots of places on television where it was used: Arrested Development, Employee of the Month, Scary Movie 4 and I'm sure in many others )

[@Ribofl4vin]

@@Divchyk Thank you, I almost enjoyed the joke. Thanks for helping me dodge that bullet.

[@MikeMeisner]

@@Ribofl4vin lolol

[@Invictus13666]

@@Ribofl4vin best line!

[@zappedguy]

I have performed trigger point therapy for years. The theory behind it is this: A muscle that has been injured appears to retain the memory of the injury and an act as simple as stepping off a curb can trigger that memory. The muscle responds "you aren't going to do that to me again" and tightens. This in turn can then trigger reactions in many different areas, distant from the original injury. The challenge in trigger point therapy is to identify the prime mover, that one spot that set off the chain reaction. I once helped a horse trainer friend that had been bucked off one time too many, was in severe pain and could not get relief. I met with him 2 weeks after the incident after he had tried several kinds of therapy with no relief during that time. He could barely stand, couldn't lay flat, couldn't sleep or function normally due to the pain. I spent 2 hours searching out and relieving his many trigger points. When I started, his back was shaped like a letter s. Not knowing if I had found all of his trigger points and especially the "prime mover" that set off the chain, I told him I would see him in 2 days. I called him and his wife told me he had left to go skiing!! His back was straight and he had no pain and was fine for a year after! Properly executed trigger point therapy does work, but it must be thorough and the prime mover must be found. The "knots" are not necessarily injured muscles as you pointed out, but they are responses from an injury that can be very distant from where they are manifest. So you need to seek out and relieve all the knots until you find that one that triggered the chain.

[@barbarawood403]

zappedguy: Your response is so true! Just wondering............what is your line of work? I need to make an appt with someone like you. Physical Therapist? Massage Therapist? Physio Therapist? Please reply back as I would love to meet with someone who understands and agrees with your post. Thank you!

[@dudedude5843]

best explanation I have ever read, I have small question, can trigger points be on the spine, like between the vertebra C5 and C6 because I have pain there when I start walking

[@SEABLUEFILMS]

I concur

[@piyush6631]

It's a very good explanation. I've been having shin splints for months but haven't really tried PT as I thought resting is the best remedy but I'm out of options now. I'M gonna try some PT now and hope it helps.

[@annebradley6086]

Seems like you are on.the same page with them. The one that triggers the chain is most likely a spinal dysfunction that needs repositioning. I had trigger point therapy and chiropractic care and physical therapy. The TP and chiropractic care were together. Being hit head on by a 20-ton truck is why the problems are ongoing. I'm recovering from a knee avulsion and my physical therapist is also getting me to strengthen muscles surrounding injured area.

[@zacharyfreeman7885]

Thank you so much! I have been dealing with this for years!!!!! I started doing a couple of these exercises and it gave IMMEDIATE relief.

[@jodskiinca]

Seriously thinking about driving the 12 hours to Wisconsin, just so these guys can be my PTs.

[@MrCaptainTea]

@@bekabeka71 stay in your own shithole country

[@conor-_C]

@@bekabeka71 how does it take 12 days

[@johnutube5651]

Just go to your local Physio, Chiro or Massage near home, just as good if not better

[@RobinHood-vy7ss]

Beka Machurishvili There is no place (that people live in) that is 12 days away from America.

[@openrecordscollective1847]

Y’all he said hours 😂

[@DMMDwrestler]

Thanks so much! You guys have relieved me of considerable pain. I'm very grateful to you both!

[@krishneegounden4329]

Thank you my knots gone without any meds. You guys are brilliant.

[@torrentmetal]

"Oh. Thanks Brad.." its like watching tool time...but way more educational.

[@michellerenwick6082]

Matt Mrock I’ve never thought of it that way but you’re so right 😂😂

[@jacksycz]

Lmao haven’t heard anything about tool time in so long

[@davidback2144]

Based Home Improvement watcher.

[@haydonlee]

my favorite channel by far @5:48 "see if that makes things better at all, generally that wont" 10/10

[@canojr3632]

That intro song should be on spotify.

[@tracymeintjes7219]

You two have given me so much good advise. thank you. solved my husbands plantar fasciitis and my itb issue. Love your videos

[@luciacee5151]

bob and brad are my trap queens

[@annederidder9768]

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[@amazingme1408]

are they gay?>

[@trisix99]

They’re great aren’t they?

[@alanbeecroft1865]

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[@lisadee0276]

😂😂

[@RedLikeWine]

You guys are the best! I can't thank you enough for this video. My back has been hurting me for more than 2 weeks and I'd tried so many things. I thought it was muscles in my back until you guys mentioned that if it moves around a lot (I thought I was losing my mind!) that it's probably coming from the neck. YES! I have a pain in the left side of my neck. Last summer it sent me to the doctor and I was prescribed a muscle relaxer and pain pills. I still have the pain pills because they made me feel horrible. And I didn't want to have to take a muscle relaxer again. Anyway, these techniques have helped me tremendously! I watched another video of various exercises for the back. These videos are invaluable! THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU!!!!!!!

[@magyver7890]

2 weeks must be nice try 14 months

[@emilydoesit8383]

I’m going on two years

[@cheesecake230]

I'm a registered massage therapist. This is such a common complaint when clients come in. I often treat trigger points with ischemic compressions and I find that to be such an effective way to treat trigger points. Also, when people have a lot of issues with their traps, I will quite often treat their pectoral muscles. Pec major and minor. As most people have have bad posture (especially with desk jobs), so traps are often weak and pecs are very hypertonic and pull on the traps. So strengthening the traps and stretching the pecs. Great video:)

[@kirklete]

Yep, that's one of the first areas I work. Pec minors often times sore with hyper traps.

[@aprilh9210]

amberk12 I agree I find that tence peck minors have a lot to do with fence traps, Leavator, Sternoclidomastioid area. Is there a video on peck stretching that you recommend?

[@dmsdana4501]

April Hook I hate "tence pecks". 😂😂😂

[@carolejackson8357]

@@aprilh9210 for pec minor stretch, search KZbin Aaron Mattes active isolated stretching pectoralis minor.

[@sillat7669]

Agreed, I do exactly the same. However, I have been searching ways to save my thumbs as some client has such stubborn knots and is just so much a finger can handle. 😅 I do use the elbow in some cases, but I have this particular client who doesn't want me to use the elbow. 🤷‍♀

[@camgood2437]

I've had a trigger point in my upper right trapezius for years, and it does hurt when I stress it, and it definitely feels like it's in the muscle. I learned several years ago that, when I hold my arms flat at my sides, then extend them both backward and upward as far as I can and fully extend it, I hear a ripping/crunching sound inside the knot, and it feels really good. It sounds almost like Velcro ripping apart, but with a slight crunching. It makes it feel a thousand times better every time I do it, and the knot becomes tiny instantly. It's the only thing that ever relieved the pain at all..

[@CalmVibesVee]

May God bless the giving of your knowledge to teach us what to do. May your followers have improvement as they study here what to try. Such good teachers! Docs, We appreciate you so much!!! What a gift you are giving to so many people that are hurting. Respect! PT for life! 🙌🏼

[@Gringo7475]

And may the two doctors tkae the trouble to educate themselves about trigger points and other myofascial pain causes. But lots of luck with that--they are doctors and believe they know everything

[@bartleyfuzz]

You guys are awesome. All these tips worked for me. My knots were killing me, till I found this video. I can't thank you enough.

[@emilywaterman5061]

I legit have no reason for watching this but these guys have such a great rapport going I can't stop watching. Quality stuff!!

[@jumpman735]

That is so hilarious. I was wondering why I haven't switch videos so I am reading the Comments and find your speaking my mind. Lol

[@patriciacarlyle9456]

Reminds me of my brother and his hockey mates. Guys being guys

[@brookemauck6033]

Great job explaining why your PT is telling you to do these motions.

[@stivstivsti]

Dear doctors, thanx for your videos, they helped me to reduce my pain alot.

[@joemerson8564]

my neck has been so painful for weeks. Tried everything, heat, massage, Aleve, stretching, pillow change. NOTHING helped. Yesterday I came across this video. I tried out the two tennis balls in a sock treatment. Very painful procedure.... BUT... now my neck pain has almost completely disappeared. Much better range of motion. Love Bob and Brad. Thanks so much to you both.

[@michellemazza363]

I'm a licensed massage therapist,and my understanding of trigger points is different than you are describing. I learned that trigger points CAUSE referred pain, not caused BY a referred prpblem. For instance, there is a trigger point in the upper traps that causes referred pain in the temple area. Another in traps that cause pain mimicking sinus headache pain. If a sore spot or knot DOESN'T cause referred pain, it isn't a trigger point, and can be treated a little differently. Janet Travell and David Simons define and chart trigger points in their book: Myofascial Pain and Disfunction:The Trigger Point Manual vols 1&2. ~Thank you for your videos, your stretches are helping me a lot!

[@Sassy8utube]

Michelle Velez that is my understanding, speaking from personal experience. I will have pain deep that spreads and when I can get someone to "massage" them it hurts a lot but almost always, within a few hours or next day it feels way better.

[@BlazinLow305]

There is so much conflicting information on myofascial release it's hard to know the specifics. But one thing is for sure - myofascial release seems to help a lot of people enough that it's probably not pure placebo.

[@anthonydamico4599]

Michelle Velez a

[@debrahange5711]

Michelle Velez Hi. Do you work with Fibromyalgia patients. I tried to get massages years ago but the toxins released from the muscles was aweful. Any suggestions?

[@lauraritonya]

I know from experience of having headaches for weeks. Come to find out they were caused from trigger points. The only way to get rid of the headaches was a message to relieve the trigger points. I now have a book that charts where your pain is to where the trigger point probably is. Your not even aware of the trigger point until its pressed on. Then it feels like someone punched you.

[@sighermike]

I love watching these guys. They're always fun. And as Bob said, it's very hard to do this stuff yourself, but I do have my rollers and my very trusted lacrosse balls. And I am very thankful to have a wife that will watch these with me and try some of these things to help me. After 4 total hip replacements on the left side, I'm in constant pain and my body, for years, has compensated for it. Now, I have adhesions everywhere, knots everywhere, constant groin pain as well as SI issues, and lower L joint issues. I'm a mess and these guys make figuring it out a lot of fun.

[@Truerealism747]

Are you any better

[@sighermike]

@@Truerealism747 working the fascia helps tremendously. We've started cupping as well.

[@Truerealism747]

@@sighermike do you feal alot better have you tryed TMS Dr Sarno to.its lack of blood flow what's the difference in knots and trigger points

[@MrGnewsome]

So glad I've found you guys. Thank you for the work you put into these videos.

[@seventhsky4086]

Yay I’m gonna help my friend today with her knots bc of this video. Thank you guys.

[@jkitty.]

You are a goddess of light

[@clray123]

From my own experience with trigger points in the back... they were present because my back muscles were generally laughably weak. They were also sort of stuck, I had almost very little sideways scapular mobility. Dedicated exercises to strengthen the whole back fixed the trigger points. So I'd say forget the rolling, stretches and funny little moves, that's just scratching on the surface. Just work on your strength. Planks, planche leans, bridges, back leg raises, quadrupeds, supermen, squats etc. etc.

[@dudedude5843]

please can i know whar are the symtoms ?

[@anab0lic]

likewise, people would rather lie on some tennis balls than actually put some work in and address the root causes though unfortunately.

[@khappy1286]

Except when you cant because you have a painful trigger point because you were working to strengthen your back. Lol

[@goodintentions1302]

30+ years after i was attacked & dealing with neck & back pain, I'd had pt, injections, acupunture & chiropractic (of all that had been most helpful) & paying big $$ for all of it, i was fortunate to get accepted by a new doctor, a DO. Within 4 gentle OMTs the knot disappeared, never to return. That was more than 5 years ago. I am grateful for everyone who helped me along the way so i could get to her. ☮️💞🙏🏼

[@bryantucker97]

Can you do a video addressing when the triggers are in the upper trap at the base of the cranium?

[@kaywarren6788]

If it is in the sub-occipitals, you can reciprocal inhibit them by rolling your eyeballs down into the roof of the mouth, then tuck your nose into your chin.

[@premkrishna8598]

These both are treating muscle pains and depression 😂😂❤️❤️

[@TheMysticSaint]

The tennis ball thing is wonderful. My doctor told me I had Myofascial pain syndrome about 2 years ago and told me to do stretches and use Naproxen. That was all the help I got except some maybes such as: massage, chiropractic help, or acupuncture, but insurance won't help with any of that. I've been in various amounts of pain everyday since it started. When it gets excruciating I medicate, but I try not to overdo the meds because I know there can be long term stresses to kidney function. The pain is really restricting my life now and I'm trying to find solutions instead of just accepting that this is how I live the rest of my life (I'm only 37). So every little thing helps, and the tennis ball thing just released my upper back, and I found extremely sensitive spots in my mid back I didn't even realize were there. So thanks for a little relief. I'll go through the rest of your videos and see if anything else can help too.

[@lesaboo4740]

@themysticsaint I have it too and almost gave up .. The best BEST relief for the pain I recently found is the hydro therapy chair at planet fitness. It's given me hope . There is also a massage chair that has the same affect as the tennis balls in this video. After I'm done with the massage chairs , I go stretch on the Precor machine on the gym floor. Then I work out .I stretch at home and throughout the day. Do you use heating pads ? I purchased my ice pads through my physical therapists office. Go check out the hydro chair, I guarantee you will love it

[@chrisone8283]

Keep up updated please. Has it been better and if so what have you done? Thanks

[@perachori]

This might be one of the greatest things I've seen online in a long long time.

[@chicbxbecerril6985]

You guys have no idea how much you have helped me I’ve been going to physical therapy for years and all along it was my neck

[@BlessedBaubles]

I JUST watched a video of a guy saying we need to dig into our muscles and the pain will go away. Ya, right!! Doesn’t he think we intuitively dig into our muscles because we’re in so much PAIN?? But within 5 minutes of your excellent teaching, especially having us move our neck back BEFORE we move it to the left or right is already amazing for me!! I’ll be working on these areas in these gentle and common sense ways and praying I can get my life back. Thank you guys,

[@GaryG-e2f]

Excellent information and contribution congratulations to us for you two guys thanks

[@a_woman_who_loves_to_lift]

😂 they said "pretty ugly" at the end 😂 far from it! I just love them. Another great video. Sure wish I had been watching them since the beginning; would have saved me from a lot of pain.

[@2toocutegrammy]

Volume could be louder. Straining to hear this valuable information!

[@livingintongues]

Oh you may wanna check your phone or ears?

[@elisabethseaton6521]

I used headphones

[@cynthiaeagan2792]

I am studying for my massage therapy exam. You guys are wonderful, just wonderful!

[@HelloJosieLiz]

I just got my back to crack by watching another of your videos. You guys are awesome and fun to watch, and now even more famous because you have a new subscriber. Boom!

[@nancygill1786]

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[@kimberlytrembley2995]

You guys rock!!

[@ailic89]

The trigger points in muscles are blocked emotions. When you got angry and you didn't do anything about it for a few days, you've just blocked that anger emotion inside yourself and stored it in the traps. This is the real cause of the muscle trigger points. To fix it, you will have to release the blocked emotion and experience the anger for traps muscle trigger points. Everything else is mostly fixing the consequences and the trigger point will return eventually.

[@veiledintent]

After tying the balls in the sock, tie a long sock between the balls so that you can toss them over your shoulder and position them where needed. I made self-therapy tools like that for my Dad before he passed away.

[@alg12700l]

You guys are great. I started doing the chin tuck/head to side/turn and look up a couple of days ago and I already feel the difference. My neck was giving me some pain and just doing this exercise has given me relief. Thanks so much.

[@MuseAmore]

I’ve been to my doctor office so many times. ER 3xs and they’ve said nothing wrong with me. It’s so irritating and discouraging that doctors even don’t have the knowledge or just don’t care. This was helpful thank you guys .

[@sushmita9040]

same with me. spent a sum on this when these docs didnt utter the word trigger point or myofascial once

[@kattalady8114]

@@sushmita9040 me either!!! I discovered trigger points by accident. Why didn't chiros ever tell me about it???? I've suffered for years needlessly. I have at least 40 points. I pressed them 2 days ago and most pain went away and i felt more peaceful. I'm sure mine are from emotional trauma.

[@sushmita9040]

@@kattalady8114 i suffer with 5 points, 40 ohgosh. Don't know how horrible that must be. I am still looking for a cure and can't seem to find any. Hope you recover soon :)

[@kattalady8114]

@@sushmita9040 thank you....yes all the ones I found are tender, with some very painful. I guess I just didn't know because they happened so gradually. I've had depression, anxiety and PTSD all my life so I think that's where it's from. And I haven't been physically fit in a long time so I didn't notice. I'm glad you only have 5! Have you felt for other ones?

[@kattalady8114]

@@sushmita9040 exactly exactly exactly. I've had chiros for 13 years now. Why didn't they say anything?? This seems like such a basic simple thing. It's anatomy. I'm always wondering what are Dr's learning all those years in school?? Sure isn't anything me or anyone i know is suffering from.

[@antheat434]

I've had tight neck muscles for weeks. Tried these and they worked so well. Thank you!

[@rhenriquezmassage]

Massage therapist with 10years experience. I usually notice trigger points from repetitive holding patterns (work,driving, daily life). I always recommend structural integration to assist correcting posture. Also I’ve notice that scm release, pectoralis release, and the subscapularis release help with pain/discomfort of daily life and also alleviate tons of nerve impingement that affect the fingers.

[@aprilh9210]

I'm a Licenced Massage Therapist I love these videos videos for self care. I do trigger point therapy on my clients one thing I look for when I find a knot is pain that recurs out of the point. If I put pressure on a point and move the muscle it can be sore and cause pain it may just be a sore muscle if the client feels pain or sensations at the point that is coupled with a refusal pain from the point to some place else then I treat it as a trigger point in the muscle. So I check of the two boxes 1. Pain when arriving the muscle while the trigger point is presses and pain recurring from the point it self. Because I am a LMT I cannot suggest any exercises I treat the points with pressure and muscle activation. But I love the exercises here for helping myself at home. Good work guys👍

[@chicbxbecerril6985]

My body felt like it was nervous on the inside like I was trembling and it’s because of my bad posture I put ice on my neck like you said so 👀 and doing those exercises,,and I have been feeling better thank you so much

[@SheyEdlingtonDouglas]

Love the tennis ball massage. If you get an old pair of tights, cut one leg off, tie a knot in the centre place a ball in from either end ( don’t forget to cut the toe open ) place a ball in both ends, do another knot to secure them in place. You now have enough tight leg over to hold onto to get in a good position. Thanks guys. Love your videos. Keep them coming.

[@wynmorris291]

When I did the chin tuck, I experienced pain in some points of the deltoid muscle and Trapezoid muscles

[@anitasyvalahti1730]

Hi, Bob and Brat! I have a pain points on my spine. middle back is most worst. I have spondylosis. My low back is operated, now problems came to back. numb of legs is not come back, after operation, it is good. You two are great Team, Thank you!

[@wonderfulmrmcgee]

Amazing. Your tutorials solved my pain within minutes.

[@mandymonroe6295]

physicaltherapyvideo You guys make sense to me. The excercises are on point.. yet it's NOT in the muscle. I have this horrible pain, but I also have digestive problems, thyroid problems, joint pain, severe GERD, neurological long list of problems including severe insomnia (not always due to pain) and more. 20yrs of many symptoms, pain most prominent. Other videos suggest it's all about the GUT, liver, thyroid, brain and that those need to be addressed first.

[@DaleNolan1969]

May I suggest a book by Dr Brad Nelson? The Emotion Code teaches you how to muscle test. Your subconscious knows all the answers to your body. You can probably find the book at Amazon or eBay also. www.healerslibrary.com/what-is-the-emotion-code/

[@mandymonroe6295]

Dale01E I agree. Thanks. A naturapathic doctor believes that I have Lyme Disease. But I will check out that book.

[@brucelevine6517]

Dale01E may I suggest that that is a load of shit If I cut my finger while dancing at a wedding with a pretty girl the finger won’t hurt if I cut my finger when I just lost my job the pain will be unbearable think about that

[@nancypaskeny2988]

Your show is so helpful. I really appreciate all of the info & exercises you give. Thank you!!

[@dr.marmorstein2345]

Can you do one on how nutrition (and/or hydration) affects muscle pain?

[@palopezneri]

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[@spacegirl1333]

@@palopezneri helpful

[@laurenmiller5756]

Simple Get enough magnesium, calcium etc.

[@judelinolanticse9718]

Regardless of a possible cause most therapist feel that the best treatment for a purported muscle knots is to pummel them, vigorously massage the sore spot with hands. Massage promotes blood circulation which is enhances the delivery of oxygen and nutrients to the muscle cells that eventually dissipate the pains or even get rid of. I speak on my own experienced. I am a MT for over a decade now.

[@Hiltonia88]

Well, thank God! I just stumbled on these guys and boy am I glad! I’ve been suffering from this brutal trigger point pain in my upper trapezius or whatever for ages now. After having a benign tumour removed from my spinal cord in my neck a few years ago, this particular spot remains a killer problem. My doctor suggested I see a pain management clinic, but when after a hasty assessment they scheduled trigger point injections, I didn’t trust it was the best way to treat the cause so I cancelled. So glad I did! (Trust your gut, people!) Thanks to these guys, I was reminded of a handful of exercises I had early on with physical therapy that I had forgotten… Especially the one with the tennis balls! While I still struggle with holding my head at 45° for long- using the computer, doing dishes, cooking, etc.- because my lamina were removed, scar tissue is likely involved, and damage from the surgery prevents my nerves from fully innervating the surrounding muscles, I feel empowered to be reminded of ways to escape pain and feel more in control. You guys rock! Thank you for doing what you do!

[@vibrantlightwc]

Whenever I've massaged someone who has soreness in that spot in the "upper traps" I've found that it's actually the scapular attachment of levator (which I can verify by checking if the aggrevation is also felt on the anterior side of the attachment). And a common comment when I'm working on it is "I can feel that all the way in my neck" which makes sense since the other attachment is at the neck. When you do the chin tuck and the pain moves it seems to me like it's just because you're relaxing levator and switching the stress to the splenius muscles. So it's not that the "trigger point" is moving. It's just that you switched muscle activation. And given that poor posture is so ubiquitous, which can stretch both levator and the splenius muscles, it would make perfect sense that both might have aggrevated tendons.

[@yoomang7]

Joey Ostos then what is the solution to relieve pain?

[@mikiii5418]

@@yoomang7 I wonder the same

[@undergroundminer3262]

@@yoomang7 massage therapist use pressure to signal release to the brain . But like an earlier comment from a therapist stated. You have to relieve the compensation while working back to the source . Short answer ...find a good massage therapist

[@laurabarber6697]

Thank you! It's such a delight to read such intelligent comments!

[@MillicentStClaire]

Good video. I really like using the Thera-Cane tool on myself and dig in to the trigger points. That tool is a real friend. Pictures of that hook thing above are the Thera-Canes. Its my friend and as I learned to position it and work it for different areas of my back and buttocks, it made a huge difference.

[@Ohquesarah]

This video was very enlightening, thank you!

[@maesmattias]

I just discovered your channel and I love it! Like your presentation style too. One question : have you ever covered the topic of painful feet, or do you have plans for it?

[@sashaco5660]

Why am I watching you guys at 3am. I can't stop! Love you guys and the dad jokes. LOL

[@rioreason]

I just wish insurance would cover massage therapy. It’s absolutely insane that they don’t. Not all of us have an SO to rub our shoulders for us. That said, the chin tuck did help at least a little bit!

[@w0mblemania]

Here in Australia, health insurance covers remedial massage.

[@emilycrowder6859]

Some insurances will cover if you get prescription for massage therapy. Worth looking in to :)

[@brendonking5489]

@@w0mblemania yeah but remedial is the shit version.

[@w0mblemania]

@@brendonking5489 I disagree. Remedial massage has really helped me with chronic pain problems. It helped that that my insurer helped pay for it.

[@brendonking5489]

@@w0mblemania I'm glad it has helped you. I see someone for deep tissue structural integration combined with somatic education. Its the only thing thats ever made a difference for me personally. I've tried just about all forms of massage over the last 14 years.

[@bgtsy]

You guys are awesome for sharing, and fun to watch together. Thank you!!

[@jeffd5907]

I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE going to my Dr's office when it's located in the kitchen of the school class room lol.

[@cassandrafrancais5358]

bob and brad keeping me smart and safe 👍🏼

[@jimmyterry3116]

I follow and teach from Simon & Travell's Trigger Point. It is the go to books for understanding and treating TPs.

[@susannichols4372]

Yeah, I have a copy of it too. Good reference, emphasizes differential diagnosis.

[@SONshine612]

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[@mizera_mykle]

Jimmy Terry In 25 years you're the only other person I've found who uses those magnificent books, glad to hear it.

[@brucelevine6517]

Jimmy Terry why did it come down from mount Sinai no it’s some ones opinion and opinions are like ass holes Every body’s got one open your mind or you will be stuck in your box only the ignorant need the security of a closed mind read a lot and then you can expand your healing because the human body is so complex that only it’s creator knows it’s absolutes

[@julsjewels3185]

This was a great refresher to the PT I received a while back- gotta keep up with those exercises!!

[@markhanington5808]

This really helped me initially, especially the ball stretch, as it helped to relieve the many tight spots I had, but it kept coming back. I mashed my upper traps with the lacrosse balls so many times that I knew I was on the wrong path, for MY situation. They got so sore from the mashing sessions and were getting red and sore to the touch. The actual cause for me was tight scalenes on the front of my neck which manifested symptoms in the traps and rear neck. Once I loosened the scalenes, the upper trap symptoms subsided and stayed gone. My whole upper trap and shoulder region fully released. That also explained why the ball stretches worked somewhat since they stretch the scalene somewhat. If this issue keeps coming back, check the scalenes. Mine weren’t painful but were definitely tight due to computer and phone use (forward head posture). Thanks Bob and Brad for your help which surely steered me in the right direction.

[@matenorth]

How did you loosen your scalenes?

[@markhanington5808]

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[@markhanington5808]

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[@K1985]

Great Vid. Hope it helps my wife. Will test as soon as possible ! Thanks. People like You make the internet better.

[@marcgray9195]

I suffered (very badly) with Fibromyalgia in my upper back for years. The "cure" was ultrasound (every other day) with topical hydrocortisone 2.5% That requires a doctor's prescription. The over the counter 1% is too weak.

[@fjaeger]

I wanna know this too. I can’t have this reoccurring anymore it’s ruining my life.

[@jhleerph]

Are knots and adhesions the same??

[@cynthiaeagan2792]

Bob: Tall Drink of Water. Brad: Strong Like Bull. You are my favorite KZbin stars! Boom!

[@smallfootprint2961]

Thanks for keeping these posted. Very helpful.

[@janelevin9506]

What does it mean if you hear "crunching" when you do some of these side neck stretches?

[@elizabethwilfong7385]

Thank you for all your tips and advice. And your sense of humor about life. Your videos and comments are always positive and uplifting, thank you for that.

[@ellenforgett4880]

Always fun and great tips, thanks guys! Btw, the levator scapulae will always have a bump near its insertion at the superior angle of the medial border of scapula due to its design, a twist, before attaching. Trigger points often exist, but the bump/twist will always exist to some degree.

[@Jfirebird91]

This helped out I been having pain for 2 months and it's helping with it.

[@kittendivine1]

''To admit that you were wrong iS to declare that you are wiser now thaN you were before'' Now please, admit those typos lol.

[@hoppingmadpinguin]

"To admit that you were wrong is to declare that you were even more stupid than you are now"

[@mariamaria-josh]

Starting off with saying how much you healers are really amazing! I don't have social media but these by far are the best videos and really have help lots of my family friends and patients!... I'm a trigger point pro and do a lot of Scalene trigger points to help with that "upper back pain" usually Around the C7, typically the migraine and deep brain headaches. Trigger points on the anterior of the body are usually the best effective method in relieving pain in my work from all the texting and hunching we all do. I'm excited to see some of your "pregnancy videos" and thoughts on inversion tables...my husband had a L5S1 disk rupture and didn't get sugury with the help of that traction PT and massage. We've both learned a lot keep it up and I pray you both don't spend hours on the computer!

[@ellieisright692]

You two are so adorable. I love the Midwesternness. Hahahaha thanks for the video.

[@theotothefuture]

I have so much respect for the typos being kept in the intro

[@UncleWally3]

You ought to consider doing a presentation at motorcycle rallies. It’s there you’ll find no shortage of people who need to hear what you’re prescribing, especially after they’ve ridden many miles to the rally! Baring that - please consider getting an article published in any of the many motorcyclist magazines. Thanks!

[@6bt_str86]

I lean toward your initial matter of it relating to another cervical issue, I spent latter teen yrs of a habit of cracking my own neck by flailing my head (and suddenly) and this pain now is close to debilitating, my gut instinct is to put myself in a traction device (along with the rolling out...) But it is interrupting sleep pattern. Very helpful. Thanks.

[@freyazso]

The thought that trigger points are referred pain was very interesting, because I find that sometimes they do move around. Hmmm. The exercises are very helpful, thank you!!

[@dvorahmariscal7963]

freyazso - I though so too. I have had trigger point injections, PT, and just did ablation (nerve burn). Now the pain moved to a different area

[@Gringo7475]

Trigger points do not "move around." They occur as protective measure due to overstressing a weak muscle, or overworking its opposition muscle(s)-- i.e., a trigger point pain in anterior deltoid is usually caused by underworking posterior deltoid or one of the four rotator cuff muscles-- in this case, exercise even a wee bit posterior upper back muscles, the anterior shoulder pain will almost always vanish. Chiropractic cracking of the back is seldom necessary. Now I certainly don't proclaim that chiropractic is never needed: I myself receive a DC treatment as needed every month or so. == G. Addis, licensed and certified neuromuscular therapist / massage therapist

[@freyazsombory3122]

Gary Addis thanks for commenting! I think there's definitely some of this going on with me. I have trigger point in my quadratus lumborem so after looking into what you said, I think I need to strengthen a small muscle in my glute. I forget the name. Thanks again!

[@wholeshebang1]

The piriformis? They have a video on that, too.

[@Mereship]

Gary Addis so if I have trigger points in my psoas muscle bilaterally (more on the left side), where is the pain originating from. I also have a weak left hip.

[@Khalilhuffman9]

This is a like a midwestern version of "Car Talk" except its about physical therapy, lol--these guys are the Click and Clack of the back

[@KaceyMadden]

I am a CMT and am a body nerd! I always like to find out why. Thank you guys for explaining it. I tell my clients our bodies are made to move and that’s why we get tp.💆🏼‍♀️👋🏻 thank you!

[@Miloykus]

I suffered from fibromyalgia for years and years and had so many knots that I couldn't function and therapies helped only temporarily. Just randomly I started suspecting that it might be from dairy products that I used to drown in (milk, yogurt, cheeses). I switched to eliminatory no dairy diet and after around 10-15 days all symptoms were gone (knots, acnes, migraine, headache in the morning, lack of energy....). To be more sure about that, did it several times after that, around 20 days no dairy and then 3-4 heavy on dairy and every time symptoms were back. So, might story might help someone. It doesn't hurt to try

[@karenvincent1074]

Same exact issue for me, but gluten was the culprit.

[@bmetz3843]

What about trigger points in the low back? That's where I think I have mine.

[@MAZE4]

calming as usual, and thank you Jack, have a good day🖖

[@tenore85]

That intro makes me feel like I've gone back in time

[@anak9827]

What do we do if those neck positions hurt our trigger point areas? That’s the issue I have, whenever I move my neck and do chin tucks, I feel the spot between my shoulder blades hurt a little. I also have issues constantly pulling the muscle between my shoulder blades, doing things so simple like washing my face 😫 it’s been like this for the past year and a half.