The Biggest Crook In TV History! Norman Lear Even Stole From His Friend

[@TisHotMessHistory]

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[@garytaylor8344]

What is very dishearting is that none of black Hollywood bothered to help Eric Monte 's career from slipping into the abyss. Tragic & patheic!

[@kerry-j4m]

Eric Monte was TOO trusting of his bosses,should've brought in his own lawyer to draw up a contract to establish his creations and what he owned & what earnings were his. Hand-shakes promises don't hold up in court.

[@jay-qx6hn]

@garytaylor..right..and they knew the deal with Lear yet kissed his butt years after those sitcoms was off the air

[@MCfact1827]

Truth

[@kerry-j4m]

At the end of the day,people are out for themselves,when you're down and out in hollywood you're outta their-LOOP-and good graces. Black hollywood knew what Cosby was doing back then,yet,no one dimed him out,so that shows you something about them.

[@BougieOnABudgetFigiRated]

I think they would’ve been just as easily blackballed right along with him. Even in today’s world, Black Hollywood is a small group.

[@reefreef1866]

May Esther Rolle rest in power! She and John Amos along with so many of our beloved entertainers of yesteryear actually stood on principle and understood that image is EVERYTHING! They did not compromise their values or sell their souls for silver and gold.

[@MangoMelly]

🗣️

[@deborahohaire5936]

They surely didnt compromise their values for money. I appreciate Ester Rolle, John Amos , and all those who did what was right for our people to have the right representation. Thank you Sista for this informarmation.

[@glorymosbyfloyd3878]

Wonderful

[@Gwenethism]

Well said

[@brendagray9601]

Right

[@paulasmall5113]

It wasnt a secret when lear was alive. He was confronted, sued, and questioned about his stolen shows while he was alive.

[@ToneyLo]

Yep by Eric Monte himself.

[@ladythedawnpoet]

my grandfather is coming back ❤ thank y'all for standing with us on TikTok we do updates

[@DeltheaSimmons]

Yes, TVs were affordable to black families in the 1970s. What was not available to black families was proportional representation in the Neilson Ratings.

[@Tornado1994]

@@joshuaturnage5243 Amos had EVERY right to speak out against how Black Folks were being portrayed on TV, especially in Ebony Magazine.

[@aarontachyon]

In one episode a shot was taken at Norman Lear when a white woman apologized to Florida about Koonta Kinta and Florida replied don't worry about that, he's making more money than all of us now. I always wondered if Norman Lear felt the shade thrown at him in that episode because as we all know, John Amos became an icon on the series, Roots.

[@AndriaaLeoLove]

You could have took 6 seconds to find out how to spell Kunta Kinte. And I didn’t take that statement to be about John White Wife Amos But About Alex Haley.

[@aarontachyon]

@@AndriaaLeoLove What the hell are you talking about? You don't even punctuate correctly, so you have no room to talk about anyone. I suppose you are one of those internet trolls looking for an argument. You won't get one from me.

[@ddivincenzo1194]

"Kunta Kinte"

[@aarontachyon]

@@ddivincenzo1194 I know how it's spelled. The white woman in that episode pronounced it Koonta Kinta or Kintuh. That is why I spelled it that way.

[@MsDezB1]

Lear was a POS for what he did to Eric Monte and John Amos.

[@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc]

They did it to themselves.

[@TeeTee-2016]

As well as the other actors. If I’m not mistaken, they all died broke or near broke even the white people.

[@nordicaryanAntiZog]

@@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc a-jew-jew`d-a-non-jew----...nothing..new..here........duh

[@susanbodiford9105]

NOPE!​@@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc

[@imsoooslepton4641]

​@@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hchow?

[@MikeDaniels-rs3ks]

I give a salute to my guy Eric Monte... 💪🏾💪🏾🙏🏾

[@JukuduB]

When you begin to learn about Narcissists, psychopaths and sociopaths, you will then understand Norman Lear. 💯💯💯

[@JoeBilello1969]

More like if you learn about "the chosen" you'll understand. People aren't taught the truth about what really lead up to WWII, but then again they took over our schools and media outlets, so you can see how easily that information can be buried, sorta like the reasons they've been kicked out of 110 nations down through time. Read Mien Kampf, it's talked about there too 😮

[@junglekutz5625]

If no one ever spoke of narcassist and their narcassicm, there are a select few choices words that anyone that purposely aims to use, abuse and defile you at will, will understand. These individuals only continue to do what they sneakingly do because said person/s *allows them (as in doesn't negatively feel a way or leaves things to stay as is hoping for change).

[@susanbodiford9105]

Word

[@RADFORDFULTON-q5k]

​@@junglekutz5625😊

[@kennethwinn]

Carl's character was an atheist. I cannot imagine Florida falling in love with an atheist.

[@TisHotMessHistory]

Me either. That whole relationship made no sense.

[@starry446]

It seemed abusive.

[@brucetaylor565]

​@@starry446they were trying to recreate the stern father image of James Evans

[@ToneyLo]

​@@brucetaylor565 they wouldn'tve had to do that if they had just kept John Amos smh

[@brucetaylor565]

@@ToneyLo can you imagine what it was like back in the 70s For a black man trying to convince A shady white man that's in charge That he is going about things all the wrong way

[@JRTexx]

"Sixty-Five Today" was the name of a Steptoe and Son season 2 episode. Also, the irony in Eric Monte's story is that The Lone Ranger was actually based on an real black lawman named Bass Reeves.

[@TisHotMessHistory]

Thank you!

[@burtonleffingwelljr7227]

​@@TisHotMessHistorytrue bass Reeves is on paramount plus now

[@burtonleffingwelljr7227]

​@@TisHotMessHistoryNorman lear still had to get in front of the brass at the networks so he does leave behind a great legacy granted not always honest with dealing with calaborators . Shows are copied now also they just call them reboots

[@burtonleffingwelljr7227]

Lear could have avoid it if he was fair with people instead of taking advantage but it won't be the last time it will happen in Hollywood but maybe not a grand of a scale as this was

[@reneedennis2011]

I've heard that, too.

[@jamesway]

Thank You, a lot of people don't know the real story of this guy.

[@mrsx7944]

And neither does the girl that made this wack video. It's click bait

[@jamesway]

@@mrsx7944 Malcolm shilling for this crap. The world is a stage, get your hands out my pocket.

[@TisHotMessHistory]

​@mrsx7944 thanks for clicking, dummy.

[@TisHotMessHistory]

​@@jameswaythanks for watching!

[@sda9995]

@@mrsx7944 I never heard of him just do a Google search 🔍 is all. Why be so mean for🙄

[@p.j._staten]

Thank you for sharing this Ti. Not too long ago I learned about Norman Lear and his deception and thievery. Not surprised he did his business partner Bud Yorkin dirty. No honor amongst thieves.

[@racyo8755]

Where’s the lie? It seems as if he eavesdropped potential ideas from other people at a Hollywood dinner party. I felt especially bad for Eric Monty, SMH…

[@BougieOnABudgetFigiRated]

When Norman Lear passed away, a few people I know expressed sorrow and were confused by my reaction. I told them while I appreciate the body of work and Black stars that were created from his shows, his work was controversial. This gave me an opportunity to go over the series of stories you’ve covered here. The epitome of bittersweet. Not sure why I’m no longer receiving notifications of your posts. I’ll go back and investigate.

[@cosmicneuromelanatedgoddess]

Yes

[@cjsansoo7]

He screwed Eric Monte out of millions!!! He talked about inclusivity, but he was no better than a slave master when it came to his treatment of Eric Monte!!!

[@Copp-yq9ds]

​@@mrsx7944such a steal

[@rerunplaya532]

​@@mrsx7944All black Americans who were slaves are the true Jewish Israelites. Therefore ERIC MONTE IS JEWISH AND Norman was a foreign immigrant aka Imposter. Read our History and not their history. Daaaaaaagh😂😂😂😂

[@mrsx7944]

@@rerunplaya532 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 wrong!

[@mrsx7944]

@@rerunplaya532 A/A's are not from Israel lol. Who told you that ??? 🤣🤣🤣

[@rerunplaya532]

@@mrsx7944 THE KING JAMES BIBLE!!!! DEUTERONOMY!🔥🙏👍

[@adrianrice2030]

Thank you for this!!! I’ve not understood why we as a people are celebrating him considering how he dismissed black artists.

[@brahmabkitty03]

This is why I commented “Thanks for bringing Eric Monty’s vision to life” under ET’s video.

[@exitscreaming4637]

I think there's a big difference between something that is " stolen " and something that someone bought the rights to

[@jamieashby8810]

Thank you. I'm not saying Lear was an upstanding person in business dealings, but it was never a secret that he adapted "Till Death, Us Do Part" and "Steptoe & Son". If you watch the source materials, you can tell plainly that, while the characters and situations were basically identical, the writing is what separated the originals from Lear's adaptations.

[@davidhinkson8856]

I think what really made these shows stand out was the quality of the cast members. I remember a couple of years ago one of the networks tried to recreate scenes from the original shows using current actors dressed in period costumes and it was horrible!

[@trinagibson5640]

I didn't like those shows either. I watched the recreation of The Jeffersons and All In The Family. That was enough. 🤣

[@sparker7768]

I found the attempts disappointing as well.

[@blondie7389]

You ain’t lying I just came across it recently was awful acting 😢

[@traceyhowze8118]

GREAT job young lady I ❤❤❤ this video Eric Monte is my uncle my moms brother he is now living in ATL with one of his daughters I passed on the video to them thk you for the great coverage

[@TisHotMessHistory]

Thank you so much, Tracey! I hope that Mr. Monte is doing well now. I'm so glad to know from you that he is being cared for by one of his daughters.

[@errolthomas9426]

I believe Redd Foxx was also having issues with Norman Lear behind the scenes of Sanford & Son

[@lisaroyster8045]

Redd Fox didn't take no crap from him

[@roselynholloway7863]

What did reds say

[@annielane5621]

It was just plain awful how Redd FOXX was treated, as usual nothing is said or written about that.

[@errolthomas9426]

@lisaroyster8045 Esther Rolle and John Amos also had issues with Norman Lear regarding Jimmie Walker's character James Evans Jr aka JJ

[@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc]

​@@errolthomas9426Redd Foxx was no angel, either. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[@tallglasscocoa6105]

Archie, Edith, George, Louise, Fred, Esther, Tom and Helen and Florida and the poor guy he stole all his ideas from will be waiting at the gate for Norman.

[@malikkimanimaasai3703]

😅 One can hope 👍🏾

[@malikkimanimaasai3703]

Gates of hell not Heaven

[@tallglasscocoa6105]

@@malikkimanimaasai3703 I never said Heaven. Fred, Esther and Archie will be stationed at the Waiting room area.

[@TisHotMessHistory]

Eric Monte is still alive,

[@malikkimanimaasai3703]

@tallglasscocoa6105 Gotcha...Fred, Easter and the rest maybe Archie will bee in Heaven so when you said gate I thought Heaven...thanks for the clarification

[@daniellej7914]

I feel like even though he’s dead Norman Lear doesn’t deserve credit for theses shows he just another Hollywood crook

[@shirleyminassian1547]

I agree.

[@ddivincenzo1194]

He bought the rights, he was not a crook.

[@charlesdavis1879]

Norman Lear stole ideas from anyone. He didn't care about anyone. To me that sums up Mr. Lear the thief. Just ask Eric Monte who created Good Times. So sad but that's the way Lear did business.

[@GeneDexter]

Wrong. There is something called Adaptation. Shows that work in UK do not in U.S. Norman Lear obviously bought Rights. It makes him a visionary.

[@reefreef1866]

@@GeneDexter HE IS A LIAR AND A THIEF! PERIOD!!!!

[@sparker7768]

​@@GeneDexterIt's possible to be a visionary thief.

[@tawnyh8878]

I feel so bad for his partner who died of dementia. He was the one that developed that show and wanted to get others in on the ideas but Norman Lear was too selfish and narcissistic to realize that it takes everybody to make a show and why should he be the authority to tell black folks how to be funny I know I heard an interview with red Fox where he said many times, he was trying to tell them how to be funny when he knew nothing now you’re gonna tell black man or woman or children how to be funny when you’ve never lived that culture SMDH

[@tawnyh8878]

@@GeneDexter yes he did buy the rights you are correct, but when it was brought here to the US, his friend, business partner, and others were trying to make these programs successful when Norman Lear together the cast for all in the family. It didn’t work, but his friend and business partner when he scouted for new talent. He he was able to get the cast we know and love today you need to listen to all of what she’s trying to say and I’ve been known this since the early 90s you need to listen to everything that this lady is trying to tell us and it

[@AllegedlyAlyce]

This was such a thought provoking piece! It really hurts to see so many suffered from his greed and need to keep HIS name out there. I think there are some things to celebrate but there are so many MORE people that are due a moment in the sun! His memory and legacy will always lead me right back to the silent hero’s who put in the work!

[@TisHotMessHistory]

That's exactly the point. Lear did A LOT to change television for the better. But he had a lot of help and he was determined to keep other people's contributions hidden away just so that he could get all of the praise. Thank you for your compliment on the video.

[@rerunplaya532]

​​@@TisHotMessHistory And to our point (Black Americans) by what happened as ........this is only the tip of the ice berg of SO MANY MORE ATROCITIES SUFFERED BY BLACK TALENTED AMERICANS NOT GETTING CREDIT FOR HELPING.....WHITE AMERICANS....EVEN STILL TILL THIS DAY. TRUE FACTS. NOT TO MENTION THE SAYING ...."ANYTHING DONE BY BLACKS TODAY YEARS LATTER WILL GO DOWN AS ......A WHITE PERSON DID IT..... INCLUDING BARAK OBAMA. YEAR 2135...YEAH THAT WAS A WHITE AMERICAN..😂😂😂😂.

[@michaelsinclair3321]

Very good presentation and informative about the shows I've loved and immensely enjoyed over the years, I felt sentimental looking back at and hearing about all those great shows because of not only the laughs and memorable moments but also the great memories in my personal life with my family who also enjoyed those presentations at that time, it also saddened me because now instead of being looked upon as something that ended well and a blessing and success to all that contributed to that great body of work we find now that behind the scenes lies deception greed and pride were in play and it became everything but a wonderful fun and prosperous experience and opportunity for all but rather one mans desire for sole recognition fame and wealth and the motions he took to cheat and undermine many people and the valued contributions they made that made these shows popular and forever memorable, I remember Demond Wilson spoke about Norman Lear in a interview where he said pretty much the same thing and how he knew his wife and he said his wife told him about how he should be ashamed at how he had done people, so while this isn't anything new about Norman Lear it's still informative to the many who didn't know how he was and about the people who were responsible for the creative ideas writing and other contributions that he stole and took credit for but in all honesty things like this has went on for generations, overall very good and informative presentation thank you.

[@thesilentdiva]

Eric Monte should live in a mansion and not have to worry about a thing. This is infuriating hearing about how he was robbed. Very well done doc. Ty

[@ladythedawnpoet]

my grandfather is coming back ❤ thank y'all for standing with us on TikTok we do updates #Eric Monte Updates

[@thesilentdiva]

@@ladythedawnpoet ♥️

[@yvonner.1851]

When Good Times came on in the early 70s, I was the same age as the actor that played Michael. And yes in the 70s people had TVs in my house we had 2, cause my father didn't look at the stuff we did.

[@susanbodiford9105]

Yep

[@susanbodiford9105]

I was lucky to have my own TV in my room

[@blc-x5m]

The thief sure did live a long life😒

[@lorimcbrayer8431]

Most of them do.

[@glorymosbyfloyd3878]

​@@lorimcbrayer8431I was going to say the same thing

[@Jojodancer20100]

My mother always said ‘the wicked live long😂 lives’ and I believe it

[@glorymosbyfloyd3878]

@@Jojodancer20100 In some cases, yes

[@Livelife257]

They are given time to make “right their wrongs” some do and some don’t. How ever, their wrongs do not go unnoticed; even in the after life.

[@auntieeva4098]

Glad you're feeling better Ti ❤. Great video compilation! And yes Esther Rolle and John Amos did what they could to have decent storylines for this show. Norman didn't understand, nor did he really care. Money and ratings are his only interest.

[@TisHotMessHistory]

Thank you Auntie Eva! I'm feeling a little better. I still have a way to go. Esther Rolle and John Amos really understood the impact they had.

[@sarahembry3075]

😊

[@craigslistbuslistingsofnor6494]

Speak the truth my sistah! So glad someone is speaking out. I've ignored every report on his death. Good riddance!

[@lorimcbrayer8431]

Thank you for giving us the truth. I am happy there was shows with many African American people, which led to the creation of more shows with African Americans in the 80's and 90's.

[@benjamintaylor4402]

Those shows bring back such cherished memories.

[@elle9543]

Maude was my favorite. Then, Good Times. Oh!-- Sanford & Son-- the best! I just remember being entertained. It finally struck me like a gong that Norman Lear "borrowed" inspiration. The real creativity goes to the writers who had to rephrase jokes in American vernacular.

[@kjoyner20]

The Lone Ranger was Black.. Damn..Bass Reeves was the Lone Ranger..SMH

[@kevinlawrence1212]

the O' jays classic song "back stabbers" discribes Norm Lear perfectly. "They smile in your face. Always trying to take your place,

[@brendagray9601]

Lear also sold the Jeffersons show right from under the characters without telling the actors Nothing!!! They had to find out from friends and others that they didn't have a Job🤷🏽

[@Stephen-to7jx]

Mike Evans, who played Lionel on All in the Family and The Jeffersons was co-creator of Good Times.

[@mauricegilliam7102]

I always knew Norman Lear stole a lot of ideals & pass them off as his own in the 1970's😢

[@ronhill8941]

In England, Sixty-Five Today was the original Radio Drama that later turned into the TV show Steptoe and Son.

[@californiagirl1579]

Wow! I heard so much about this its sad the Eric Monte didn't get his flowers and creative stole from him ❤

[@el_puma_real]

Lear did such a great job of white washing his success, that I grew up thinking he was a creative genius. This is a very eye opening video, I’m glad you introduced me to Eric Monte, clearly an unsung individual for far too long.

[@kennethwinn]

Jimmie Walker recalled "Dy-no-mite" being a stupid catchphrase. Norman Lear agreed.

[@TisHotMessHistory]

They were both right about that.

[@TruthBTold-]

Yet People LAUGHED and WAITED for THAT MOMENT.

[@shirleyminassian1547]

I heard a different story...I heard John Amos told him not to include it but Mr know it all, LEAR, argued with him later leading to the dismissal of Amos. I personally got sick of that line, it got annoying and the show wasn't the same again after John went.

[@Tornado1994]

@@shirleyminassian1547 Lear Called him Straight up on the Phone in April 1976 and told him "I've got good news and bad news John, the Good News is that we've been renewed for a 4th Season, the Bad News is you won't be Back".

[@shirleyminassian1547]

@Tornado1994 Aah, that's interesting...wasn't right though, it just felt like something was missing from the show after John, their loss. Don't understand why they treat good actors that way, maybe ego.

[@jill-zee7720]

I loved Sanford and Son. My son started watching all theses shows in reruns in the early 90's. Good Times was his all time favorite. He still loves it as a nearly 40yo man. These shows were so well written and culturally important to kids of the 70's in particular.

[@TanukiOkiyo]

Madcatster brought me to your channel . I grew up watching “Good Times” in syndication and it was one of my favorite shows . Knowing the Norman Lear did this foolishness is so disappointing . Subscribed !

[@TisHotMessHistory]

It really was disappointing to learn why Lear did what he did with Good Times. Thank you for giving my channel a try and popping over from MadCatster. I really like his work. Welcome! I hope that you continue to enjoy it here.

[@TexasAlabamaBoi205]

I’ve always wondered how could a white man so accurately describe black culture! I knew all along something was a lie about who was behind Good Times and Sanford and Son

[@beautyRest1]

I’m white and I have wondered about that too!

[@angelonearth555]

Exactly

[@AndromedonThanks]

Norman Lear would love this new generation. Respectability is something a lot of these kids consider outdated. I love Ester and John for standing up for us.

[@robertbutler2360]

You’re right about one (if not)a couple of things…Norman Lear’s a “Legendary Theif”…

[@von2300]

I always smelled a rat about Norman Lear. Now I know the truth. may he rot in hell.

[@sunflowerpwr.8821]

He unceremoniously ended the Jefferson's and the cast felt disrespected that after making him rich for ten seasons he cancelled the show with no warning.

[@fenian123]

Because the network chose not to pick it up for another season, the ratings had dropped

[@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc]

The sitcom was on for 10 years and had ran its course.

[@kennethperry3641]

Now, I heard he wanted the Jeffersons to continue.

[@sunflowerpwr.8821]

@@fenian123 no Norman Lear said he stopped abruptly because he didn't want to do it anymore. Either pbs or a major network has the interview stop lying...it got cancelled because Norman Lear didn't want to continue. You can easily look it up.

[@shirleyminassian1547]

I think it was the way he ended it that upset the characters and I don't blame them....he didn't write to them or call them with any warning which is so damn rude....atleast give them a week so they look for something else in the meantime for financial reasons for one..he didn't sound like a nice person at all.

[@sparker7768]

Given the complex characters and cutting edge premise of "Lear's" sitcoms, I was disappointed at how deeply flawed this man truly was in his professional relationships. I grew up watching all of these sitcoms (still watch some today, for comfort) and learned a lot about people and politics. He seemed to miss all the lessons.

[@Copp-yq9ds]

He's a Juo...money is god

[@JCsaxophile]

Hello TI! Thanks for putting this vid together to profile Lear and the robbing he gets credit for to this day! You mention regarding credit in Sanford & Son for "Sixty-Five Today" as being another company or entity of the creators of Steptoe & Son, Galton & Simpson. If you look at the opening credits to Sanford & Son during the first two seasons, you'll notice that Lear credits working episode titles from Steptoe's! For example, the pilot episode of Sanford says in the opening. "based on 'Crossed Swords' by Galton & Simpson"! He did nothing but retooled old Steptoe episodes for those seasons, probably in chronological order!! His estate needs to pay Eric Monte BIG TIME!!!

[@OldBittyGrandma]

I’m tired of hearing what a great guy Norman was…I’m posting your video on X.

[@davidgomes4727]

Ms. Ti, I really appreciate the work you put into this video. This video inspired me to want to work on a documentary or movie about Eric Monte and Michael Evans lives. If so, I will definitely reach out to you to collaborate.

[@mistiroberts1576]

Taking John Amos off of that show was a bad move; I was devastated by that too

[@madbrowniac7871]

The moment after the Funeral when it all sank in on "Florida" that "James" was never coming home and She dropped the heavy glass Punchbowl on the floor in a sudden wave of rage and grief? Part "Raisin In The Sun", Part "The Glass Menagerie", and Part Shakespearean Tragedy. Miss Esther Rolle made the entire moment heartstoppingly unforgettable. And to this day I couldn't agree more. "DAMN! DAMN! DAMN!"😭B.W.

[@madbrowniac7871]

The late great Ralph Carter who Played "Michael Evans" received his start in The Broadway Musical Presentation of "Raisin" which was the adaptation of Miss Lorraine Hansberry's acclaimed "Raisin in The Sun" stage Drama.🤔B.W.

[@susanbodiford9105]

I thought he left because he disagreed how silly & stupid the characters were being written for black people

[@mistiroberts1576]

@@susanbodiford9105 they took him off because he wouldn't go along to get along

[@shirleyminassian1547]

I totally agree, bad move.

[@jameslee133]

Ms. Esther Rolle and Mr. John Amos's stance on the JJ character and their show resemble how Mr. Reginald Veljohnson and Ms. JoMarie Payton's stance on Urkel on Family Matters. And it seems the respective couples on their shows and how it depicted Black families were very similar and respectable also.

[@rosajohnson5212]

It's funny that you posted this, because I heard about how he stole ideas from his partner. It was all I could think about, when I heard about his death. I don't know if that was from one of your other posts. It sounds like Eric was a very determined man. He also sounds intelligent. I don't understand why he continued to pitch ideas to Norman Lear without copyrights, perhaps, his mother's words were in his head. It's sad that he endured such theft from Norman Lear, however, he did what he set out to do.

[@kennyblackbird5674]

Good post! That background music is so haunting! Such a beautiful melody!❤❤

[@randallr.8394]

that saying "i only see people,not race".How long have we heard that one yall?

[@reneedennis2011]

Forever 😒.

[@jayharvey7043]

I disagree that Fred Sanford was a black version of Archie Bunker, Fred actually had white friends, but all in all, they were both products of their time.

[@shirleyminassian1547]

I agree, the only similarity was that they were both outspoken but nothing more...

[@aqueenceereid4249]

I just hated how he kept the family on Good Times poor. They had chances to get out and have a better life like when Thelma got married to the football player and they were gonna move and of course took the dad away. I'm also shocked he let the Jefferson's move on up and not the Bunkers. Ever notice they never let the Bunkers come to visit Jefferson's when they moved away. I bet if the Bunkers moved away they would have let the Jefferson's come to visit them to see how they were living.

[@beasaroseco5840]

Its social engineering. Its like the crows and Michael singing, "You can't win".

[@robertgardner1234]

The Evans did get out of Cabrini Greens at the end. They pooled their money together with Keith and JJ, and the mother and bought a home together. Michael went away to college. And Archie did much better financially when he quit his job and bought out the local bar/ restaurant and started “Archie’s Place.” I could see Edith visiting Louise because they were friends, but her character was written out and she died on the show later.

[@lisaroyster8045]

Archie did visit the Jefferson's

[@michaelsaunders1509]

Fred Sanford: "Black people fought In the Revolutionary War, after that , White people were nice enough to let us go back to being slaves" 😅

[@tomvolpe3238]

Key Words.... He BOUGHT The Rights" Not Theft, BOUGHT

[@rvegas81]

Thank you for making this!

[@ozzieedwards143]

You know.....we never found out what happened to Carl once Florida came back.

[@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc]

Esther Rolle wanted Carl written off the show.

[@AngelCrawford-om5yl]

Doesn't matter bc he didn't belong on the show.

[@ozzieedwards143]

@AngelCrawford-om5yl Tell me something I don't know.....but it's not like they were gonna bring James back.

[@jodieasterling1992]

I am so glad I found your channel. It is awesome. I plan on binging all of the episodes.

[@darnell49]

Hey Ti, 🥰🥰🥰 Congratulations 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 you are on the top of your game as usual. This is so detailed and tells the story of Norman Lear that is seldomly told. Again 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿.

[@TisHotMessHistory]

Hey Darnell! Thank you so much for supporting this video...again. I know that you know it's remixed content. I truly appreciate you.

[@darnell49]

@@TisHotMessHistory 💯🙏🏿❤️🙏🏿❤️

[@mikescully6972]

An interview with Desmond Wilson, right after Lears death, confirms what you shared

[@EOrtiz-mr3tv]

Thank you for this valuable in depth presentation ❤❤❤

[@BlockTalkNews]

Eric Monte was giving out free gold smh he should have smartened up 💯

[@LawStudentCali]

This was good! Great job 👏

[@blondie7389]

About time somebody did a video on the true behind this thief, I been going from post to post on social media stating this. For the people unaware need to know this, especially My all time favorite tv show “Good Times” , the The Jefferson’s and Sanford and son was stolen from Eric Monte idea 😢which is his real life background. He actually lived grew up in Cabrini green projects. He later sued Norman and won👏🏽👏🏽 This Is why you have to be very careful who you share things with your work while someone else get credit and paid for it😡

[@sunflowerpwr.8821]

I didn't know Eric Monte was still alive so he is still winning in the end

[@shirleyminassian1547]

No because he didn't get credit for his work....they should do something, give him the right recognition publicly along with the memory of Mike Evans.

[@islandgirl8067]

I heard a long time ago that Norman Lear stole ideas for his shows from other people. He lived a long and prosperous life off the backs of other people. These were some of the best shows, I enjoyed watching the reruns as a child.

[@charleslennon1]

I never knew the depth of their disgruntlement. My parents, who lived through the Great Depression and survived Jim Crow and the 'Rez," recognized "Good Times" for what it was and could have been. They never let me watch the show or imitate J.J. as a toddler. That said, in retrospect, having watched the show decades later, I see the elephant in the room that should have been explored more. James's military service, the effects of PTSD, and the new generation of veterans from the Vietnam War. Being a third-generation veteran whose father was a 23-year career combat soldier who enlisted in 1950 and served and fought in the Korean War and the Vietnam War and an African American soldier, I find it very disheartening that the shadow of war wasn't spotlighted. With few beneficial services during this period for veterans compared to today, it would have been eye-opening for the audience to see that the many services we take for granted today had been lobbied some fifty years ago without any help from the government. If they had been in place then, they may have helped James and the family and may have helped change his and their circumstances. This has applied to the Evens family and others throughout the show and in 'real life.' The subject of veterans could have helped bring an understanding of the plight of veterans and what they experienced regardless of what conflict they served in. Remember, the US Civil Rights movement was spearheaded by black veterans. They didn't start the movement but were instrumental in its organization and success. Imagine J.J. meeting a veteran of the Tuskegee Program in an art museum and for that vet to inform J.J. the last time he saw a painting on display was when he fought in WW2. Or a member of the 761 Tank Battalion, who helped liberate concentration camps after kicking Nazi asses! Thelma meets a black female nurse who served in the Korean War and tells her (after Thelma abandons her dream of being a surgeon) that she didn't have the opportunity to become a surgeon due to the times. So don't be discouraged; it won't be easy, but she's got what it takes. Micheal meets a homeless WW1 veteran from the "Harlem Hell Fighters," no matter the absence of acknowledgment for his service by his own country, he still loves it, and a "change is going to come"? Imagine James suffering from nightmares and finally telling Florida what he experienced fighting in combat, the discrimination in the military, and the civilians who suffered the most. But in the same vein, recognizing PTSD in a brutal cop who constantly antagonizes J.J. and Micheal. But in the end, this same cop commits suicide because he hates what the 'war' has made him into? Convincing James to seek treatment. Imagine Florida comforting a young 'war bride' suffering from denial who refuses to acknowledge her husband is KIA. Entertain the audience, educate future generations, and seek equanimity.

[@Drega001]

"the lone ranger is white" The ghosts of Bass Reeves: **starts loading revolver**

[@t.taylor1611]

Thank you for sharing

[@rodb66]

Hello TI and commenters. You already come with the brutal truths among all the celebrity worship. Big ups to you and your thorough research as well as your commentary. 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

[@jayharvey7043]

Ironically enough, when the series ended, J.J. was the most successful of the Evans children

[@anoukcarswell6611]

@jayharvey7043 Right ironically enough JJ carried the family out of situations after " James died " he had matured a lot after that . The Greeting Card Business JJ's New Career Rich is better than poor VD episode can't forget JJ's condition not to mention The Evans Family Delima , Penny followered JJ home and so on

[@lxbronx6]

JJ always had the potential to be successful. He was a goofball. I understand the “representation/image” thing. JJ to me was NECESSARY. In the hood there’s a lot of “JJs” we know or come across. He was an ARTIST, he had TALENT. In those circumstances in the ghetto we’d all need something or someone to keep a smile on our face.

[@IndigobluBeauty]

Good Times and The Jeffersons are my shows still. Yes things are cringey to younger folks now but it was and still is funny to meee! We would watch these shows as a family. I never really liked sanford & son when i was younger bc it came on at noon on Saturdays signaling the end of cartoon Saturday line up. Never watched maude and i hated all in the family bc I didn’t understand the humor and edith and archie’s voices got on my nerves. And yes i was also from a ‘nuclear black family’ 💜

[@feliciajenkins5041]

He's another one that proves only the good die young.

[@NiKiMa023]

YIKES!!

[@lisah8438]

I hope i am.not good then 😂😂😂

[@pearlwanders8599]

The truth will out!

[@senorc4416]

“The community” did more to exalt Lear than each other.

[@queenreg7]

You know a snake when you see one. Once burned, step AWAY from Norman Lear path forward. Lear had no problem using whatever and whoever he needed to in order to get to the top.

[@cosmicneuromelanatedgoddess]

Thanks! Because Ti is gonna always burst these bubbles of these "legends". 😆

[@TisHotMessHistory]

Hi Cosmic Neuro Melanated Goddess! Hey, I gotta do my job. Hahahaha! Thank you so much for your generous gift to the channel!

[@jayhendricks67]

But yet Hollywood says The Smothers Brothers were too controversial they spoke reality

[@roz.b.7512]

YOU CAN'T WIN WHEN YOU PLAY DIRTY NORMAN. I'M SO SORRY FOR ERIC MONTE.

[@ms.stephanie.m]

All in the Family. I don't like he stole the ideas from Eric Monte.

[@malikkimanimaasai3703]

Devil who lived too long...

[@kevinharris3993]

Demond Wilson just validated what Norman Lear did to Eric Monte. Demond just gave an interview to Comedy Hype talking about Norman Lear and Eric Monte

[@thetarotdetective3363]

Most his show are from Britain.British remakes

[@KLUNKET]

I will always love these shows, but I no longer respect or even like Norman Lear. I had always credited Lear with so much, then I find out that Eric Monte is in financial ruin today despite creating some of the most beloved and iconic TV shows in history, and Lear just stole it.

[@TisHotMessHistory]

I feel the same way as you.

[@theresawebb1968]

Monte will never unite with lear now & never.

[@thetarotdetective3363]

Well we know rules TV and movies in America so Norman what is expected in this country

[@theresawebb1968]

@@thetarotdetective3363 Okay.

[@keshiajunuies8966]

JJ was a talented artist. He was talented as well. People forget that.

[@lxbronx6]

Yep. And he matured like a teenager eventually does. It was unfortunate James had to be written off. But yeah JJ got a job involving his passion after he graduated and became the man he was always meant to be.

[@jayharvey7043]

65 Today was the title of an episode of Steptoe and Son Several episodes of Sanford and Son were based on episodes of Steptoe and Son.

[@kevinlawrence1212]

Sandford and Son, All in the family, and Good Times. When John Amos was on the show. I also liked The Jeffersons And Maude.

[@trinagibson5640]

There was three pilots of All in The Family.

[@anoukcarswell6611]

You can say what want about JJ he came through in the tough times !

[@tiadekattu9096]

Exceptional Documentary 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@ozzieedwards143]

Norman Lear....the Elvis Presley of TV land....just ask Eric Monte.

[@kleeamd8274]

What did Elvis Presley steal exactly? He grew up alongside poor black families & loved their music & culture & his musical interests were inspired & influenced by that. Not sure exactly how Elvis Presley "appropriated" a culture he literally was born & raised in himself??🤣🤣

[@ozzieedwards143]

@@kleeamd8274 Let's see....songs from other artists, singing styles from other artists....You saying that is an equivalent of a racist saying I have black friends.

[@kleeamd8274]

@@ozzieedwards143 There are PLENTY examples of singers covering the songs of others. Like Whitney Houston singing Dolly Parton's 'I Will Always Love You' And AGAIN, how can Elvis "steal" a singing style that he literally grew up listening to. What don't you understand about the fact that Elvis grew up alongside poor black families and was immersed in their culture more than he was ever immersed in white culture. All the music he ever heard growing up was black soul/gospel/r&b music. So how can he "steal" something that he grew up with himself?? It was just as much his culture, as he was born into it & knew nothing else. Furthermore, there are plenty of artists who have the same style. Michael Buble sings in a similar fashion to Frank Sinatra/Tony Bennett & many other old time crooners. You sound ridiculous 🤣🤣🤣 Artists literally borrow sounds & style from other artists all the time.