The Biggest SCAM in Pest Control - Termite Bait Stations

[@DanTheBugMan]

Thanks for watching everyone! Let me know your experience with Liquids Vs Baits in the comments down below... I am looking forward to the debates :) Please let me know if you have any questions about what I discussed -Dan

[@jkdm7653]

Dan, how long is ground spray effective for termite control? Is it's effectiveness degraded by weather(rain, snow, etc.)?

[@timhanjian]

​@@jkdm7653the best Liquid treatments are done with NON REPELLENT TERMITICIDES!Most of them should last about 8-12 year depending on the weather and moisture around the areas of treatment!

[@regbrown6389]

Interesting watching from Australia as a licenced technician. Inground bait stations cost way more than liquid treatment here. I would be interested in comparing prices

[@JustinHalliday-p5l]

Have you ever used the termidor wsg? I believe it's granules... Thinking about using for crawl spaces ....

[@JustinHalliday-p5l]

​@@jkdm7653yes sunlight and heavy rain slowly degrade product in topsoil. Should be refreshed ( injected/ trenched every 5 to ten years for proper protection

[@DBFOutdoors]

Company I work for we do both when the client has issues with termites and by itself as a preventative service. I have seen 0 issues with the homes that have these alone as a preventative service.

[@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit]

Termites as a whole species are dying because of how effective Termidor is and it’s only been out for 2 decades Bait stations are a revenue maker your customers only need the liquid tbh

[@jonathanhutchinson6669]

@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suitdude. That is actual rubbish.

[@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit]

@@jonathanhutchinson6669look up insect populations and their decline if you don’t believe me Termites on the other hand are not public knowledge we use to do 100+ treatments per year now we do a dozen or so per year They’re population is clearly declining atleast in suburban areas

[@DanTheBugMan]

@DBFOutdoors Yea they work over time! I never said they didnt work over time, pest companies just charge sooo much for them and they don't work quickly

[@DBFOutdoors]

@@DanTheBugMan I do agree $200-400 for a one time service a year is a lot

[@derekmacieski3992]

My mother who is a widow on a very fixed income had termites. I with the help of your video used the Taurus SC. With no skill level or abilities of any kind trenched around the house and eliminated the termites in I swear 3 days they were gone.

[@louchacon9074]

I hope the water well is not inside the house perimeter..!

[@farnoushreshadi6547]

How did you know if they were gone? just curious coz I can't see them but I see their frass

[@Kuuterr]

Termites leaves pheromones. You may have killed the colony this year but, they will be back. A swarm will sense the pheromones and come back in the future.

[@GrimmJaw671]

​@@KuuterrTaurus SC lasts for about 10 years. Longevity degrades in wetter climates but even so, in heavy rain area's you're looking at re-treating every 5 years to be safe. Which is what we recommend in the company I work for given the place I stay...

[@GrimmJaw671]

​@@farnoushreshadi6547If you see frass that means it's drywood termites. Fumigation is the only option if you want to save infested wood items, and if its not done right it'll hurt the wallet to re-treat with an already pricey option. Cheapest option is remove and replace... The exception is if it's valuable/sentimental

[@susancadis]

I did my homework before contacting a pest guy. Every one of them tried to sell me the subscription service, AND anything they planned on doing was a poor excuse for proper coverage. I ended up doing it myself, and now I know I am covered. Thanks for confirming the big pest companies are just to take your money.

[@johnyee8800]

I live in Ohio. I nearly got scam by my pest control company that I was with for about 4 years. They wanted to charge me $1500 to install the Sentricon bait stations around my 1250sqft home. This was a "discounted" price also since I was already a customer. Plus $60 per month for 2 years for the warranty ( He did not mentioned this. I just happened to have read it.). They used several scare tactics to get me to sign. Such as "the house down the street needed $30K in termite damage repair". I ended up signing but after thinking about it overnight and doing a little research I canceled the contract the next day ( had a 3 day cancel window). In fact I completely canceled all my pest services from them. I ended up DIYing it with trenching and using a 78oz bottle of Taurus SC for $100. It was back breaking and time consuming but well worth it.

[@TitanRaider23]

Doing the trench now. 3 more sides to more sides to get through

[@DanTheBugMan]

@johnyee8800 $60 per month is so much!! That's great to hear! Thanks for watching

[@michaelmerck7576]

I had a house need 30000 dollar repair due to no termites finding the stations fir 2 years but managed to be under a rock about 3 inches from the garage

[@beth2890]

Exact same spiel from my guy in Virginia. "a "discounted" price also since I was already a customer." $200 off $1,000. Elderly and on a fixed income. SHAME in those guys

[@Nightmare_13]

I was quoted 1700 to start and $62 a month by a major pest control company last Friday

[@gr8fulnbama439]

I cant believe you guys would take his word for it. He has a video on a liquid treatment on a house with active termitres and he doenst drill the patios that are connected to the house. He claimed he followed state laws, I cant think of one state that would allow a company to put a house on contract without a full treatment Most of all Dan is being paid by Control Solutions, thats why he always mentions Taurus and not Termindor SE and you can forget about him talking about Termindor HE, which is a better product because Control Solutions doesn't make it yet

[@seanjants2881]

​@Give_us_the_emo_shit_Jarren it's called auto correct lol . He's kinda right though . Termidor HE is a FAR superior product to taurus sc .

[@seanjants2881]

@Give_us_the_emo_shit_Jarren I didn't know he was sponsored by them . I've stopped using taurus , it makes no sense on termites with better liquid products available. And with ants there is better ,cheaper and less restrictive products on the market

[@gr8fulnbama439]

​@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit 23 years with pest and termite control. Hey Dan is this you?😂

[@DanTheBugMan]

@gr8fulnbama439 Taurus and Termidor are very similar products. Termidor just marks their prices up because they can. Drilling patios is such an old school thing haha! In my opinion, drilling is not necessary. especially if you just treat around the porch. Taurus and Termidor both eliminate the colony so there's no point in drilling everything! I am 100% compliant with state laws. I talk to my Ag inspector every week! :) you know Termidor and Taurus have the exact same active ingredient??

[@freespirit1975]

​@@DanTheBugMan I don't think they have the EXACT same ingredient, but it is close enough that Bayer sued Control Solutions but didn't win the lawsuit. The reason I say this is that 16 years ago, that large company that starts with a "T" trenched my house for termites and I helped the tech. The contract I signed said "Termidor SC". That solution had a sweet, kind of pleasant odor (this is also how it is described on the MSDS for Taurus SC). That solution killed two active termite infestations on my house. It was so non-repellent that the termites brought the mud we treated inside the wall for tube construction and two days later I started smelling the chemical in the bedroom. Two days later the smell went away and they were dead. This past month my son and I finished trenching my house again as a preventative treatment since it had been 16 years and I was sure the chemical was now defunct. So instead of paying the T company over $400 a year again to maintain the contract for a tech to walk around my house once a year and stare at the clouds and ANYTHING else besides look at the ground at the base of my brick fascia where they should (I watched them and complained and they still did a worthless job), I purchased Termidor SC for about the same cost and we did it all ourselves. Here's the thing, the Termidor SC HAS NO ODOR, and it is actually described as "odorless" on the MSDS for Termidor SC. Therefore, I think the "T" company charged me for Termidor SC and gave me cheaper Taurus SC based on the fact that it had that odor. Again, I will say that the Taurus worked so it is an effective chemical. I believe that Taurus and Termidor are SO close to being the same chemical that they may both work equally well, which is probably why the lawsuit happened. I took Organic Chemistry in college and my theory is that Taurus is what chemists call a "stereoisomer" of Termidor. A stereoisomer is the exact same chemical structure but it is a mirror image and can work the same way. Stereoisomers CAN have some unique qualities that its mirror image doesn't have, for example an odor that the other doesn't have. As matter of fact many of the chemicals being sold as generic Viagra are probably mirror image stereoisomers. Finally, I still have bait stations (empty, without bait or wood) around my house from 16 years ago. At that time, I killed an infestation outside another bedroom, but on the other side of my house they were inside the wall of my kitchen BEFORE they finally hit one of my bait stations, and I had even put them FIVE feet apart, twice the 10 foot frequency recommended. So, I don't trust bait stations. I panicked then and called the T company. Trenching and flooding is the way to go, but professional companies don't want to do it anymore because it is BACKBREAKING work hand digging with a mattock and you can't get a powered trencher beside a house's exterior wall. Also, we DIY'rs can NOT get our hands on the injection tool (proprietary?) used for Termidor's new HE version. But, I'm not sure it would be effectively injected in heavy prairie clay like I have anyway.

[@surinkim11]

I have a rental house which was built in last year. I got a call from a termite company saying they placed termite base stations and now need to have maintenance service for $360 per year. if I choose not to have the service, they said they will remove the base stations. I just wanted to check and research and I come across with your KZbin. And I am glad I checked it Your information was exactly what I wanted to know! Thank you so much!

[@PrimeSolutionsTX]

You are going to ruffle some feathers with this one. I'll get the popcorn...

[@DanTheBugMan]

🍿 ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED ? 🍿

[@jonathanhutchinson6669]

Look at us a bunch of f’kn nerds getting mad over the best way to kill bugs😂 I

[@Thatshorrorible]

hahaha, that's pretty funny.

[@heitorq7795]

I've been in pest control for 24 years and this video is very accurate. Hire this guy if he is in your town. We need honesty in the industry.

[@flatbrokegarage]

Great video! We had these when we bought our house. They contacted us and wanted to renew our subscription with them. They were going to cut us a "deal" and only charge us $790 to "update" our stations. Som simple searching on Google tells you the price to fill our traps is $70 from Amazon 😅 I told him he could leave

[@empsol123]

I live on Long Island NY and have been commercial applicator since 2008. Now I have no beef whatsoever with your video. For me personally, I do more servicing of Advance termite bait stations from previous exterminators who no longer do the service for whatever their reason may be. I do more of the Advance termite bait station than chemical barrier treatments. Again, personally I tell my customer the entire shpeel on different ways of managing their termite issue, but more times than not it comes down to dollars and cents with them. I am not a pushy used car salesman, so explaining their options, and allowing them to decide what fits their budget generally works for me, and of course there have been times where I have chosen to walk away from certain situations that were counter-productive to running a legitimate business. I like your videos, keep up the great work.

[@grimeybeast1465]

Full disclosure, according to the department of Ag, a liquid treatment lasts up to 10 years before needing another restorative treatment. Its' still 60-70% cheaper over the course of that ten year period than maintaining a bait system.

[@termitesarenotgoodforhomes]

Yes. As long as you don't have any shrubs growing near the side of your home in the meantime.

[@jimfields9491]

10 years for Termidor or its imitators. Premise 75 and its generics 3-5 years with a good overhang because it will re emulsify in a heavy rain.

[@gjnelsonandco]

We have these around our house and have had no issues for 10 years. BUT thanks to this video, I want to buy the stations and replace theirs with mine to save money. We'll still have a termite inspection every year by a professional but I want to maintain the stations myself. Can you advise what to look for each year when I inspect my stations? And can you tell me how often I will have to change the "goo" in the stations? Great video!

[@Campbish10]

Man said “reoccurring revenue is the best way to have a successful business” then turned around and said “sentricon is the worst and should be illegal” because they want reoccurring revenue from him…

[@DanTheBugMan]

@Campbish10 Hahaha Shhhhhh they are different!! Sentricon is recurring revenue from minimal service

[@michaelmerck7576]

He is correct on both accounts

[@Rollscabsbreakgamblers]

​@DanTheBugMan but with liquid you still have recurring revenue from the yearly warranty where you only do an inspection vs bait where they do an inspection and check the stations for activity to see if the bait needs to be replaced.

[@pike54545454]

​@@DanTheBugMan if you're claiming Taurus, as yes the label says br will last 10 years, why do most companies do boosters at 5? Or 7 at most? Why do so many professionals not trust the label?

[@christopher-xi2ey]

​@@Rollscabsbreakgamblers and retreat every 10 years

[@Jane-qp4mo]

Dan, per Florida Statute, if a chemical liquid treatment is used, after refill of the soil, a 6ml plastic covering must be placed over the soil to preserve against rainfall. Is this common?

[@wandayonder9772]

You make some interesting points. Two that I would add, from a homeowner's perspective: 1. A lot of us don't have a lazy $3000 or more for liquid treatment. So what do we do? 2. I see termite activity in my yard and want to put bait stations myself near those spots to kill off some colonies. No company is ripping me off. Why is that not okay?

[@skyblue1122]

Hello Dan, is it true new construction house already went through termite liquid pretreatment? My house was built in last quarter of 2018 by Taylor Morrison, it came with one year of free bait station which was later removed. Anyway, I sign up with another company 2 years ago, the initial installation is $350 and $75 quarterly for monitoring the bait station. There are 12 bait stations, the house is 3345 sq ft. Technician came yesterday, 5 minutes later he’s done. I have a camera footage of him taking out one of the bait look at it for 1 second then put it right back, I don’t know if he had inspected all the stations. Glad that I come across your video because previous research I have done all suggest bait station is worth it and Atlanta is at higher risk of termite infestation. There is no termite currently in my house, I signed up for the service as preventative measure. I’m thinking about cancel and go with liquid treatment few years down the road.

[@Armando1228]

Amen brother 18 years here in the industry and bait stations are a complete sham!! Good for you !!

[@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit]

10 years here i used to live in a townhome and I found active termites on my neighbors unit 1.5 months after Sentricon was installed by my competitor btw And my dads been doing this 40 years he’s found active termites dozens of times on houses w/ bait stations

[@sherrynowlin7653]

I was quoted yesterday over $1500 for bait station installment with initial spraying and then $300 annually after the first year. Orkin. I will do my own treatment.

[@Thatshorrorible]

I have some termites eating an old stump in the middle of my lawn. Last, week, two of the larger companies quoted me $2170 and $1295 each for a year service with the Sentricon baiting system, and then the following year was $1200 and $450 and each year afterwards. They check on the stations once a year. I was like, I am paying you that much for you to come out once a year and check on them. I just called a smaller company today that was $800 the first year with the Advanced Baiting System and $200 each year after with a bi-yearly check on the stations. I did inquire if they spray around the foundation as an additional barrier. They said, they do not spray outside anymore and that it was the old way of doing it unless they were in my house then they would drill and spray into the wood. After watching your video, you have me second guessing going this route.

[@Kuntios]

Hey Dan. I have ants in my basement. I see them coming out from tiny hole and I put a caulking. Can ants destroy house foundations?

[@DanTheBugMan]

Nope!

[@FATBOY5539]

Been using sentricon for 10+ years never had an issue. Also the most sustainable systems on the market, but definitely dump 100s of gallons in the soil and it still not be 100% effective.

[@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit]

That’s crazy cuz the average Liquid termiticide treatment only takes 25-33 gallons of chemical Not hundreds lol keep guessing tho

[@michaelmerck7576]

​@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit2 gallons per 10 ft says that don't add up

[@jonathanhutchinson6669]

If we do the math let’s say the avg ln ft. Per home is 170 ln feet . Just to be safe we would divide 170 by 10 that gives us 17 then multiply that by 2 that’s 34 gallons. Depending on how many houses you treat that’s. “Hundreds of gallons”

[@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit]

@@jonathanhutchinson6669 yea and you can’t control how much chemical The soil will take so you might mix up 33-36 gallons but the soil only accepts 25

[@jonathanhutchinson6669]

@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit Correct.

[@daniellascaris4533]

Dan, I saw a video of yours you recorded 2 years ago and you said these termite statios works well. Now you said the opposite. I'm really confused for what you said on this video. Thanks

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[@rileymccartney1549]

A good pest control technician is always learning, and adjusting their methods 🪳

[@enriqueperezarce5485]

Just cause your a expert doesn’t mean your aren’t always adapting and learning

[@MechInvent]

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[@jonallison69]

Use sentricon, they work. Don’t use other bait stations, they don’t work. Stick with sentricon.

[@jonathanhutchinson6669]

I understand where you’re coming from…but I do termite inspections for a living and I find a lot more termites in homes with liquid treatment than I do baiting systems. (Personally) Also a lot of professional companies will use an above ground stations for active infestations. I do disagree with this video…but I see where you’re coming from.

[@jonathanhutchinson6669]

@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit A lot of companies don’t use Termidor. Even if they do, there is no guarantee they are going to mix it properly to the right ratio, or apply it properly throughout the entire home. It’s VERY easy to cut corners, and almost impossible for an ignorant customer to detect.

[@jonathanhutchinson6669]

@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit I agree! But, Not everyone hires a mom and Pop,most people don’t know any better. and I’m not talking about them anyway. I’m talking about big companies with huge advertisements that cut corners and lowball. Sadly, where I am, that is the prevailing business practice..with not all, but a lot of termite treatments.

[@DanTheBugMan]

Thanks for your honesty! Yes you have to use an above ground station for fast results. Do you use above ground stations?

[@jonathanhutchinson6669]

@@DanTheBugMan Yeah AG packs are pretty dope, I’ve seen pretty awsome results with them. I agree with your point that pest control companies charge too much for them about 50/50. It really just depends on what kind of warranty the baiting system comes with. If we’re talking unlimited damage repair and free retreats upon new damage…yeah I think it’s worth 1200-1400 depending on the size of the home. If your warranty is crap, really any termite service is a risk. There is never such a thing as 100% risk free from termites in my opinion. Baiting or liquid. You were however wrong about wood being in stations. It’s not wood, but pure cellulose infused with noviflumuron. I’d love to elaborate more on the science on why the are effective, but I’m sure you have done your research and have developed your own opinion based off of that.

[@MacoyCafe]

​@@jonathanhutchinson6669cellulose is wood 👍

[@MikePeaslee]

Your 6 years in the pest management industry means you still have a great deal to learn. I've only got 46+ years and I know enough to know that I don't know everything, but one thing I do know is that termite baits eliminate the colonies, not just put down a barrier that hopefully the termites don't penetrate. Baiting for termites is a much better option that liquids and is much more environmentally responsible.

[@buckittz]

Do you know how fipronil works lol? You're wrong

[@chriss5470]

WHAT!?? Please tell me your joking! baiting is better then treating with Termindor!??? You sir are are stuck 46 years back in time .

[@withers1111]

As a pest technician in australia. You always want to put a chemical barrier in place and use the in ground stations as a defence . Fipronil based products, such as termidor and inground stations such as trelona ATBS

[@MacoyCafe]

Awesome video brother! Thanks for doing your part in making people's lives better.

[@markrivas8258]

Wow. I never knew! Dan, I rent a large home built in the last 4 years. My landlord doesn't provide pest maintenance, I haven't seen any issues. Would you recommend a pest inspection before paying for regular maintenance, or how do I not get ripped off?

[@gregoryalves5436]

No. Dont waste a dime unless you see a problem. Just incase you didnt know too, any ant peoblem is easily fixable w $6 ant baits at publix

[@DanTheBugMan]

Thanks for watching! Your landlord should be responsible for normal pests like ants, mice, spiders, etc.

[@g1zmoHD]

Im not sure about every company, but the annual renewal isnt just to monitor the stations, it is the cost to keep a warranty in place in the event termites do bypass the stations and damage the home. The company I am with actually covers the cost of damage if something does happen with the system in place. I know other companies offer retreat warranties as well. Now if a company is charging that much just to monitor the stations, then that is definitely a scam.

[@g1zmoHD]

@@dm285 I agree that liquid is the way to go. We actually offer both options for customers. I just wanted to point out that the annual charge isn't just to check the stations.

[@JerzeyDude2000]

3 years ago I had termite swarmers around my back patio door and inside my home. The exterminator drill some holes on my concrete patio floor and spray Termidor HE liquid into them. They also treated around my front door patio too. But then they install the Sentricon bait stations. Initial cost was just $830 for the liquid treatment and bait stations. Once a year they will come to check the termite bait stations and charge $330 each time. Each time they didn't replace the bait with new one and didn't find any termite activity. I became skeptical this year on how effective are they checking for termites. They don't go into my basement to check or poke around. They only check the bait stations. So I decided to cancel the protection plan. What's your opinion on Termidor HE liquid? Is it good as Taurus SC you mentioned? I heard both only last 10 years.

[@jonallison69]

You should have kept the bait stations. A recent study showed that a 12 year old sentricon bait successfully eradicated a termite colony. Only $330 for an entire years worth of protection is a good deal. I can’t tell you if that particular pest control company was running any scams or not but sentricon works.

[@ExpVladimir]

the longer I'm in pest control the more I learn pest control is a scam. 90% of homeowners have pest because they are to lazy to clean up after themselves.

[@Solidreds]

Depends where you live. I live in florida and If my home isn’t treated I notice 10x the amount of pests.

[@plzifan3773]

what? part of IPM is helping your customers with education and prevention

[@jamesburkhart6809]

That's not the case with drywood termites.....impossible to stop in Hawaii.....only periodic tenting can eradicate

[@michelledowns6718]

Miss information!

[@ReadTheBible33]

What's hilarious is I'm looking at the trolona and sentracom stations at a customer's house right this moment. They have both.

[@JT-on6zo]

Hey Dan great video. I agree with the baiting system not being very effective. However; treating live activity with an above ground bait is 100% the best way to eliminate a termite colony. The reason we use baits is because under a liquid only contract, we are not allowed to treat via above ground baiting- per our department of agriculture. In our state, proper protocol should be Liquid + Bait preventative treatment.

[@nixedd]

There are issues with both liquid and bait but in coastal areas, bait is better just due to sandy soil and heavy storms and rain that degrade the liquid treatment at a much faster pace. No pest company and 100% guarantee that their liquid treatment will create a full barrier around the home due to obstructions in the soil from rocks and things of that nature. I've been in the industry for 11 years now and I think the Sentricon stations have been amazing including with Formosan termites the reason companies normally spray first is because it normally has a faster kill time because the termites are already on the home but I've also seen Sentricon AGs work amazing as well (with a little power-aid)

[@CorporalDecay]

Termite Bait Stations are there to monitor activity before they start eating away at the house. I've installed bait stations around my home, and it hasn't taken long for them to find the bait.

[@abeykuriakose1403]

Thanks a lot for the information. Yesterday a pest control company came and gave me an estimate of $800 and a monthly payment of $49 for two years

[@SavageTec]

Ive used them on active infestations and they usually start working within 3 months. I haven't done thousands of termite jobs but I've done a few.

[@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit]

Termidor works within the first few weeks

[@DanTheBugMan]

3 months aint bad!

[@lovealwaysjasmine]

you used the bait stations or the liquid?

[@johndaugherty4127]

You are the man. About everything is a scam these days. I appreciate your willingness to work for a loving and helpimg folks to combat pests.

[@DanTheBugMan]

Thanks for watching!! :)

[@BrandeeWilder]

Hi! Thank you so much for this awesome video! I recently (2 months ago) decided not to renew my bait station subscription ($389 year) and they did actually come back and get the bait stations now I have holes all around my yard. They were the black bait station you showed. I came here to find out what I should do about the holes and if then being there will actually encourage termite activity and to see what I needed to do instead of the bait stations (I have that answer now because of you). Now I need to know do I buy the stations myself to fill the holes, buy filler dirt or what?

[@lovealwaysjasmine]

what did you end up doing?

[@Hitstrekker]

Great Video, definitely worth watching and sharing. Thanks and hi from Australia.

[@Loni-044]

Hi Dan. I live in Australia. What product do we have that is as good as Taurus SC and Borecare? We have products like Termidor. I’m not really sure what to use? What do you recommend? Thanks, Leonie.

[@fayk.2278]

I got a quote for 1200. I bought a huge Taurus sc and dug around my house myself!!!! 10 years of protection! $100.00 bucks and done

[@haroldrodriguez5952]

Not really.

[@DanTheBugMan]

YES!!! Very Nice. It's not rocket science

[@landysok90]

I work at northwest exterminating and yes, termite stations do work but we just charge an arm and leg because we know you need it and you need it to sell a home here in the south. Then we charge you every 3 months to have someone come "check" on it when we all know it'll last 7 years.

[@nancydrew5]

16:03 is where you hear what is effective and budget friendly for killing termite colonies. Most of the first half of the video is repeated bashing of the tubular termite baits, that termites may or even go for.

[@SonicBoomC98]

A lot of what you pay up front is setup fees and labor. Most people aren't going to do the work of doing their own termite and pest control.

[@nathanskelley6229]

I install, and I have seen them work and eliminate colonies, along with indoor stations or core stations. Every threshold is different and it all depends on a tech doing a check properly in crawls and anywhere you can safely access. The baits I check get checked twice a year and we video our inspections so that we know the tech is actually checking a property correctly.

[@KarlsKronicles]

I appreciate your video. Just found evidence of termites and will have to DYI it. My son and I will have to do the liquid treatment around the house. I am retired and don't have thousands of dollars to throw at this. Thanks for your information

[@MMCS87]

There is so much science and studies that back up stations. The problem is the when they aren’t checked correctly. Those stations destroy the entire colony.

[@xkben90]

Just watched the whole video, and from my memory, he never said that the bait stations didn’t work. He was saying that there is no guarantee WHEN THEY will work, In which the official statement said it takes “up to a year” for bait stations versus “up to 30 days” for the liquid method. It seemed he was more against the fact that companies offering the bait stations make you feel as if you must renew the subscription (re bait) in order for you to be free. But even then, he said it’s not a guarantee because of how long it can take to work.

[@gr8fulnbama439]

Exactly, they can also transfer the bait to colony in distances closer to 400 feet. Entomologist believes that nymphs may survive a Termindor treatment even though all the adult termites are dead

[@DanTheBugMan]

@MMCS87 I never said they didn't work... it just takes so long

[@DanTheBugMan]

@MMCS87 Yes I agree! They will destroy the colony when the termites get to them. That's why it's important to come in contact with the colony as quickly as possible. Do you use the above ground bait stations?

[@michaelmerck7576]

Too bad they don't really work .I've seen them fail many times

[@lilyseestheworld7865]

Thanks so much for your advice. I don't want to troll but I have a legitimate question. Want to keep bees and have a vegetable garden right next to my house. How do I avoid the Fipronil or trenching with soil treatment. As far as I understand bait stations with poison cartridges are the only way for me, right? Cos I did some research the liquid treatment except they are in the wall WILL affect the bees and other beneficial bugs (I cant afford that). I am not even mentioning poison in the soil and hence the food. Please help if you have an idea. I bought the stations already to install them DIY. Thanks in advance.

[@notme8121]

Sounds good. I live in FL. Just found drywood termites in my attic. What would u recommend?

[@swaky5138]

Gasoline and matches....

[@MrNomoresony]

Found this video after getting a $2500 quote to install bait stations, plus $500/year for maintenance! Thank you for the great info!

[@HandsONreviews4u]

Bro you’re incredible!! My family and I LOVE THIS CHANNEL My friends runs a termite company and they never really prevented any termite infestation with those bate stations and your right. They now use Tourus SC and they have successfully saved a lot of homes. But I ordered that product and trenched it in MYSELF THANKS TO YOUR CHANNEL 👍👍👍👍👍

[@DanTheBugMan]

That's awesome thanks so much for watching!!!

[@TH-eb5ro]

Your information is very helpful. I use stations at a property in the Philippines but because of their paths, the concrete we get a good idea of their paths but it is not the only method. Using them for six months actually just caused them to use another area and fortunately it was out of my area of responsibility. We also have times of the year where it floods for weeks. I use recycled plastic bottles, cardboard, scrap wood wrapped in poison soaked with the bait/poison. Agreed they should be held accountable by the Dept. of Agriculture. If small business's, contractors were more honest/ethical like you they'd be more successful. We also spray the house, inside out and surrounding area. We get 1-2' mounds every so many months. The tropics for you. Appreciate your videos.

[@jonjohnson422]

If you see active termites, you absolutely should not be setting up a subterranean baiting system. The most effective way at that point is to use a liquid treatment. With the rod method

[@kylesullwold5918]

You need to look more into it man, I’ve been doing pest control for almost 11 years now and I have seen those stations work great. I’ve serviced them myself and have seen them work. Terminix, the company I work for are actually the ones who were 1st in patenting a termite control plan and patenting those bait stations. They’ve been scientifically developed over YEARS of R&D. Doing a soil treatment for termites will not work, you have to trench around the home and place gallons and gallons of product around the home for a complete eradication of termites. Just a tiny bit of that bait has the strength to kill thousands and thousands of termites.

[@farnoushreshadi6547]

How would you know if termites are gone? Just curious to know. We don't see any termites in our house but we saw the tubes and frass. If we hire someone to put the baits, How do we know if the termites are out of the house?

[@thegooddoctor8479]

I had my house sprayed by a licensed exterminator for lots of dineros. Had other infestations every year until I was informed by a different exterminator to try bait stations. I've been using them for many years now - and haven't had a problem since. At $50 a box, they are not cheap. Can buy a box a month, and it would still be cheaper then hiring an exterminator. Thankfully each box lasts me a few years. I'm all in with this scam. I store it right next to my "pet rocks".

[@1benhouston1]

I work at Orkin and we typically only use sentricon for preventative (with a guarantee that we will use termidor if termites become present) and light termite activity on a home (with termidor in the active areas). Beyond that we use termidor treatments for anything moderate to heavy activity. We also don’t manipulate or lie to anyone, Orkin would fire someone for being dishonest. “Hey Mr & Mrs, we offer a termite preventative product call sentricon, it does work based off of how termites forage but we offer a guarantee on it incase they do make it passed the stations (it happens but our branch has only had 2 houses in 10 years) we come out yearly and inspect the house inside and out and change the bait at yearly intervals.

[@1benhouston1]

Although I will agree with you we fight everyday customers thinking you only need to use bait stations for active treatments because of the companies I think you’re talking about.

[@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit]

My neighbor had Sentricon bait stations installed and I found active termites a month and a half later

[@prissypacheco2860]

@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit Did they have termites before the bait stations?

[@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit]

@@prissypacheco2860 idk all I know is I saw an active tube a whole month and a half later I broke it open while no one was looking and it was definitely active

[@farnoushreshadi6547]

How would you know if termites are gone? Just curious to know. We don't see any termites in our house but we saw the tubes and frass. If we hire someone to put the baits, How do we know if the termites are out of the house?

[@7kardia750]

I think the bait stations could be highly effective if placed in spots where there is a high probability termites will be active. I plan to put them in my flower beds where I have bark, and near large trees.

[@stewartnavarre7545]

Dan, Question - in one of the videos you recommend Termidor. in another you recommend Taurus. Please advise. I am ready to buy and treat. Thanks.

[@chriss5470]

It's the same active chemical. Both are great

[@Sxhm]

I just bought my own bait stations, the same ones the leading pest control company tried to sell me. I spent 400 for 15 stations and 8 trelona pods. They wanted me to pay 700 a year to “maintain” it’s a scam but I do feel more comfortable knowing I have my own.

[@josephl8765]

Wouldn't the yearly renewal of the bait stations be worth it for the warranty alone? That was basically the reason I renewed mine, through Terminix, after 1 year on our new-build home. Trying to decide if I should renew again when it comes up in a couple months but the warranty is what gives me piece of mind.

[@Lsutiger225]

Same here warranty out weighs the cost of a termite infestation in my opinion

[@michaelkayan3856]

Great video, Dan. Very persuasive argument. Keep up the good work!

[@DanTheBugMan]

Thank you!!!

[@jasonclay6218]

I'm doing a termite treatment tomorrow that has active termites. Those bait stations failed to do the job. Needless to say, the company that put those in will not be returning.

[@DanTheBugMan]

Very Nice!!! :)

[@xstrmzy9846]

bait stations have always been the answer for preventative, we use the termidor he in soil and through wall foam and some form of dust applicant with the growth inhibitor and above ground bait stations to do the job for active infestations. Any company that sells bait stations as a end all be all is a scam.

[@karmatologist]

My pest control company was going to charge $300 annually after the $900 initial install. No termites yet but I wanted to do it as a preventative. I canceled and they told me they would be by the house sometime to get the bait stations. What do you recommend as the best line of DIY preventative treatment?

[@Hoomantavakoly]

Terminix gave me a quote of $1500 to install 12 stations. They said there is a warranty of up to $275 k. They said if there is damage they pay up to 275K to fix the damage . They don't really tell me how that works but when I look at the contract that they want me to sign , there is a lot of fine prints . Im thinking not to sign up and do the preventive treatment myself. Your thoughts ?

[@DanTheBugMan]

Yes the contracts are full of fine print details that 99% of the time gets the pest control company out of having to pay for the damages.

[@Hoomantavakoly]

Do you think it is affective if I do it myself following the instruction? . I have Taurus SC and digging a trench is not a big deal .. what’s really the point of hiring pest control company to do it ? Convenience ?

[@michaelmerck7576]

Avoid that contract ,the fine print exonerated them from all liability

[@jonathanhutchinson6669]

Terminix international?or an independent franchise of Terminix? What state do you live in? Because that IS a rip off 100%

[@Hoomantavakoly]

@@jonathanhutchinson6669 franchise Texas

[@JohnDarling-sp4mq]

Absolutely loved the video, and have a suggestion about `how to do something no one else is doing I won't post here. one question--iwhen termites find your home--do they just go to your house to eat, and are they not even looking for food anywhere else?

[@hughesoutdoors5017]

I agree with this 100%. I’ve been back to houses after years of having station service installed to “renew the warranty”. And found many empty pods with active termites crawling all over them. I install bait stations because my company pays me to, but I really don’t think they work very well at all.

[@2sdys]

That’s the point.

[@hughesoutdoors5017]

@@2sdys obviously, that’s why I posted the response.

[@connielahman5725]

Thanks so much for an awesome video.I don’t think I have termite issues but thought I might get an inspection for peace of mind.I am thinking now I should probably find a company in northern Ca that treats with the Taurus SC and I’m safe and protected for 20 years .would you agree on being proactive in having house sprayed even if no termites for protection?

[@jewelbell5]

Thank you, I've been reluctant to renew my yearly termite protection, they use the sentricon stations.

[@RyanOlsen]

Man, your passion on this subject really shows. A home inspector told me years ago they were a scam, but didn't go into details. Thanks for this video.

[@jerrywhidby.]

12:18 when we bought our house the previous owner had pest control setup. They started sending me a bill when we didn't have a contract with them. I didn't even know they were coming to our home. I told them not to come onto my property except to remove their bait stations. They did remove most of them.

[@kbdirtleg3862]

Do you go back out and reinstall liquid if they change landscaping and dig up the liquid barrier. How many gallons of chemical do you have to put in the ground on an average house?

[@SandraBillingsley-bu7dj]

Thank you bc I was xo clisé to do that now we all the inf you put in doing it my self , God Bless you for being truthful w your information 🙏🤩♥️

[@Anticrap-b1e]

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! I can’t afford to get my home tented. I also have carpenter ants . So I found you on YT. Bingo! Will be DIY. Given the opportunity I Would save myself the hassle and hire. That’s not an option. So grateful for your help! Very instructive and easy to understand videos! Wishing you success!

[@newjerseyray]

Dan, what are your thoughts on 'BIOADVANCED Termite Killer granules'? are they a good yearly treatment alternative to the liquid?

[@EricAu-mq7hc]

Dan, I have a termite problem in Hawaii. Any suggestions or, is it possible for myself to treat my property?

[@garyandjoanrogers9649]

My termite company did the trench years ago and told me I need to renew the chemical treatment. When I mentioned we have an encapsulated crawl space, they said I had to do the bait stations or we would not be warrantied. There was a big push to sign up which made me hit the brakes. Is this true? Is there something about having an encapsulated crawl space that changes things? My husband checks that space routinely. Also, is an annual inspection really needed every year ($155! to walk around). We are in the Charlotte NC area.

[@carolstewart2355]

Hi, what is the name of the Liquid in the white bottle that you showed. And where can I find the container with the long handle that you can push into the ground and spray. Thank you for the video

[@jusskitten9773]

Taurus SC which a cheaper knockoff of Termidor SC after BASF’s patent expired. It works pretty good for termites and ant control like Termidor. Both of which utilize the active ingredient of Fipronil. For subterranean termites I wouldn’t use anything else, not even premise, which utilizes the neonicotinoid (synthetic nicotine) and breaks down in the soil far quicker then Fipronil. As for drywoods it’s always best to tarp the property. That will zap the termites colonies the inspectors detected along with the ones not detected. Local treatment for drywoods is a roll of the dice.

[@johrs4u]

I had liquid fail 3 times in 4 years. Twice done professionally. What seemed to have worked is having all the walls inside the house filled with terminator and having having the bathroom drilled and drilling into underneath the foundation with liquid but then. They also put in bait stations for me for free. My annual contract for the bait station is a hundred and fifty dollars a year. That includes a 1 million dollar structural damage gaurantee. I have it in writing.

[@gr8fulnbama59]

$150 a year with bait stations is a steal. Never drop that service, we were charging $250-$300 a year for Sentricon and don't listen to this Dan, it's totally worth it

[@gr8fulnbama59]

Our company would put the stations in free for customers that had a liquid bond that had active infestations. We would go up on the bond about $100 after that. So a bond that was $125-$150 would go up to $225-$250. If the company does go up on it in a few years, it's still worth it since sentricon is so expensive to install and plus your house could get Termites again.

[@St7ckTheWorld]

If I dont put enough chemical due to measurement error less than 10 lineal feet should I be concerned?

[@enoughrope1638]

The purpose of termite bait stations is to give the worker something to scan that proves they did their job. Nobody wants a bug guy to kill bugs, they want the bug guy to look busy.

[@cookiecontrol]

Please, double-check your facts. In my 20-plus years in the industry, I have witnessed many liquid failures. Where are the studies that liquid will eliminate the colony? I understand that you may not like baits, but please be honest when giving your opinion.

[@AverageJoe46549]

My baits get pulled out of the ground covered in termites... i agree with this comment.

[@JohnDarling-sp4mq]

U.S. Dept. of Agriculture and the Mississippi State College are two of the sites I used. There were also a couple of studies that said the soil had not been properly treated which let the termites go through the barrier that wasn't a barrier that was complete.

[@AverageJoe46549]

@@JohnDarling-sp4mq how do they properly treat the soil?

[@JohnDarling-sp4mq]

@@AverageJoe46549 I don't want to repeat anything I have not seen myself. Just the facts. I will be sending a brief to DTBM when I have a completed report. I do know that a Terralift machine is involved.

[@thomasmoore2604]

What's your damage warranty that catchy pest provides for your liquid service?

[@tylerbrown6675]

The company I work for has a 95% success rate with it. And if you are offering damage replacement contracts you will stop using liquid also.

[@chrisprice279]

So I have termites on some of my trees and plants on my yard, but no evidence on the house. Would it be a good idea to install my own bait? And just check them every few months?

[@Andrew-h9v3g]

I sell sentricon bait stations for one of the major companies. When i do my inspections i always check the termite monitors that our customers get around the house and i see that pribably 80% of them have termites on them. Termites are just like anything else their just trying to survive. Sentricon works because it's just basic common sense, put a higher amount of food around the house thats easier and closer to get too. Its not that it has a higher "technology" it just saves people in the long run.

[@farrellteam2927]

Corteva leases the sentricon bait stations to the pest control co and in turn they past the cost to the customer. The low initial cost and ease of installation is why companies uses them. It is also cheaper for the customer for the initial installation vs a soil barrier chemical treatment. However, the active ingredient, Recruit HD, does work well when installed and spaced properly. It only last 5 years and eaten bait does need replacement. The consumer con is that they are proprietary and not sold to the consumer (ebay is a loop hole). It's a bait and termiticide all in one while other bait stations use wood to attract termites but must be replaced with a termiticide if termites are observed. The bottom line is that they do work better than other bait stations and great as a preventative. Liquid is proven, works fast but require more labor and initial cost. I actually use both Termador and Sentricon here in Florida at my house.

[@jordangarber9803]

U had a video about liquid treatment vs bait stations and u said if professionally done right they both work great

[@MirkwoodPestControl]

This 100% has an agenda due to Sentricon pissing you off. Bait stations are needed if liquid application is impossible. It's still better having something than nothing. Bait should ALWAYS be secondary. If it's just the money situation, I don't charge for station checks, I offer that as a free service on top of other services or part of the initial implementation. But if I need to replace Bait, I charge. I liked your channel, but this is just making pest controllers who have tried to help their clients look bad. This video will always come up whenever I recommend bait stations in the future. So thank you, now I have to try and protect someone's home, where liquid can't get to. Like their prize-winning garden beds against their home. Try convincing them to trench up their garden 😂 they'd rather have termites eat their house then have anything hurt their garden.

[@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit]

Termites eat wood, paper, cardboard, cellulose They’re not going to eat a customers Marigolds, home grown peppers or their tomatoes… Rats will do that not termites…

[@DanTheBugMan]

@MirkwoodPestControl I don't really have an agenda. I don't hardly make any money from these videos and none of my potential customers are watching this haha! What would my agenda be?? That's great that you don't charge for checking them! I just rod if they have a nice garden bed or landscaping. And hahaha don't give me too much credit! I think most people won't watch my video before calling you. Good Luck out there!

[@michaelmerck7576]

Just go with the liquid Taurus soil treatment

[@michaelmerck7576]

I would bet that scenario has never happened

[@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit]

@@michaelmerck7576 you meant Termidor HE not Taurus right? ☺️

[@TheJjturner8]

Huh I just check 1 after a week and guess what termites on it. Sooo your theory is a little flawed. And soil treatment is a temporary fix. Weather plays a big part on how long the soil treatment lasts. Maybe 30 days tops.

[@sandiegojoey1]

My house is on a raised foundation and the perimeter of my house is all concrete. Seems like my only treatment option is to crawl under the house and use liquid?

[@JosephFilm-mv6io]

You are awesome. Terminex wanted to charge me 1200 to bait station and monitor. I asked how much for an actual treatment and they literally wouldn't sell an actual treatment. So many things are 80% scam. You gotta do it yourself and good people like you help out a lot!

[@jianfengli675]

The same company quoted me for bait station: 1200 for the 1st year and 370 for the next year. I am in NC.

[@DigitalDubyaa]

Where's your PPE while touching active termite bait stations?

[@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit]

He left it with your mother Karen

[@mrcordell865]

The bait is nontoxic, his dirty hands might contaminate the bait if anything

[@DanTheBugMan]

@mrcordell865 Hey my hands are not dirty!!!! HAHAHA

[@michaelmerck7576]

You don't need any .the stations don't have any bait in them until active termites are found eating the wood stakes

[@TylerCheek-ct9qu]

What a video . Completely agree 100% . I couldn’t tell you how many times I’ve crawled customers houses who had those bait stations and found active termites . Termite bait stations are indeed a complete scam . Liquid treatment is the way to go . Can’t go wrong with fipronil .

[@calebalexander7128]

Can’t speak on the sentricon ones but part of the process with trelona ones is regularly checking the stations and the house itself. Also some people don’t seem to notice the difference between the monitoring stations and bait stations from trelona. Regardless though I think trelona is fine as a preventative step if you keep up with the yearly bond, however if you have an active site I’d go liquid

[@DanTheBugMan]

Thanks so much for the support tyler! Yes sir!!

[@1dragonx76]

I have the spectazide stakes. Two popped, after checking I did not see any termites. It looks as if they popped after getting wet and the connector that holds them down deteriorated away for a few months of being in the ground.

[@donniehickman7928]

Ive had good luck with bait stations over the years. Worse luck with liquid over the same time

[@kbdirtleg3862]

Do you go back out and reinstall liquid if they change landscaping and dig up the liquid barrier.

[@chrisporter9397]

Liquid treatments don’t eliminate the colony. It’s common for infestations to have two or more colonies, with each colony having millions of termites. Liquid treatments will also dissipate, and termites only need to find a gap half the thickness of a credit card to exploit. If you want to dig a trench and fill it with chemicals just for it to not eliminate the colonies, by all means go for it, but it’s an inferior option for eliminating and preventing termite infestations.

[@dm285]

Disagree based on my homes termite and treatment experiences. Liquid is far more effective long term.

[@chrisporter9397]

@@dm285 The University of Florida just published a study earlier this year in the Journal of Economic Entomology showing the effectiveness of both and showed that liquid treatments are an inferior method of treatment and prevention. The study showed that liquid treatments impact to be as little as 1.5% of the termite population being taken care of, meanwhile bait stations have product that is brought back and distributed throughout the colony and wipes out the entire colony.

[@PoopStick-fs5dr]

@@chrisporter9397where is a link to this study

[@terrypless6196]

Sounds like you ve been in the business about 3 years. Baiting works perfectly along side an effective pesticide if monitored correctly and it's much safer than applying 250gallons of strait pesticide that will leach and runoff and break down.. In the business 35 years and it baiting works.

[@piedpiperpestcontrol7213]

I’ve used Termidor SC, Termidor HE, Taurus for years all fipronil active ingredient. I agree on the bait stations. Dow and larger pest companies use for ease of use and higher recurring revenue. We’ve never pushed as it felt like not doing our customers right. A con on my opinion. When real estate transfers a liquid treatment is recommended if a liquid treatment has not been performed in the previous 5 years . Those large companies actually liquid treat when Sub termites damage the structure - then go back to monitoring bait stations. I don’t get it. It’s the scare tactics - 😂 Bad business to me.

[@withers1111]

Prevention. Above ground stations internally . Liquid barrier after colony is eliminated, in ground stations as an interceptor. Please come to Australia you will change your mind pretty quickly

[@Blade_625]

So what do you do in the event that concrete is around the perimeter of the home?