The Black Bloc: Inside America’s Hard Left

[@VICE]

Since the 2016 presidential election, Antifa (short for "anti-fascist") has become a staple at right-wing rallies. The faceless, leaderless group stretches across North America and Europe -- and they aren't afraid to incite violence. WATCH NEXT: Inside America’s Largest Right Wing Militia - bit.ly/2glqlan

[@Eilixander]

the funny thing is that these people are fascists...

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodla2091]

VICE Hell this far-right militia sounds like a blast, I may join myself.

[@lucasg1984]

I think you are getting antifa mixed up with hypocrites

[@jeremymeline8129]

Fascists shutdown speak....DUMMY!that's what antifa does

[@AroundTheBest]

Dressing up in black and beating up white people... Sounds like something a racist would do.

[@Jerzy-George]

Gotta give respect to Vice for not disabling the comments.

[@thinkfiend]

C21, The Vinc Group Fr

[@thinkfiend]

st prch yoooo 😂

[@lulutee7397]

Enough is enough. Ahmaud Arbery was a black man shot dead while he was jogging. Antifa is the answer because countless peaceful protests lead to nowhere. Radical change for the good is better than radical groups supporting divisive, gun-wielding, largely low educated extremists. Forget Iraq and Iran, America hasn't even dealt with their homegrown extremists at their doorstep.

[@Osiris2134]

How low have the standards come?

[@kayleeh8140]

Sad you had to say that

[@TheModernInvestor]

I saw the title of this video and just KNEW the comment section would be on fire

[@ra1der63]

Their mascot should be the Possum, it acts fierce, tips over trash cans, gets hit by cars, plays dead, and is an all-around nuisance.

[@nayrtnartsipacify]

@@ra1der63 jajajajajaja

[@nayrtnartsipacify]

@@ra1der63 reminds me of Bill hicks bit about the hooligans in shaftsbreed

[@tiernanwearen8096]

@@nayrtnartsipacify the fighting in the comment section puts the fighting of the two World Wars to shame

[@niceguy2091]

@@ra1der63 instead its the "jackass" which google defines as " a stupid person"

[@Big_Footless]

Mad respect to the confused Asians watching the protest. 💯💛

[@toykoserpent804]

😂 Yeah LOL

[@philswift2.038]

That was one of the bast parts of the video

[@Big_Footless]

@@philswift2.038 Haha, it totally was!

[@Big_Footless]

@@toykoserpent804 IKR!!!

[@toykoserpent804]

@@Big_Footless IKR what you mean

[@deathbycognitivedissonance5036]

As soon as I saw the like/dislike ratio, I knew shit was going down in the comments.

[@native307]

That's because right wingers have no life/jobs and youtube is their only weapon. It's pathetic

[@malinko35]

Leon Oh the irony.

[@NoahKaneisme]

It's probably regular people disliking videos promoting our homegrown terrorists

[@mikeoxlong6468]

Duchess ha, made me laugh

[@arthurmuz73]

Leon lmao, ur funny

[@badamime01]

The far left and far right are the minority on each side but they scream the loudest. This creates a false sense that the majority of peoples political opinions are on one side or the other. Most are in the middle leaning left or right on a number of different issues.

[@mattschuver4440]

💯

[@CALgal387]

Exactly!

[@flurb8415]

Facts

[@tackywhale5664]

The sad reality is that it isn’t so much that way in colleges, where (currently) young people are supposed to have the time of their lives.

[@MellowMelli2014]

I’m right in the middle, the people in the far on both sides need their own country I swear, they both make it hard to live in the USA. Both sides are so brainwashed and don’t have an opinion of their own. They are actually followers. You know it’s kinda funny they said they aren’t about violence but you always see them laying a hand on someone…. Violence usually isn’t the solution, but at least be honest that you are for violence and stop trying to make yourself feel better, own up to what you believe in and stand for. 🤷‍♀️

[@julianscales1807]

"Fear is a part of our tactics" *tips over bin*

[@patched8789]

Julian Scales "why is the left trying to suppress our free speech?" *Runs over protestors in a car*

[@patched8789]

Farmer Dave Who is censoring?

[@WithoutRemorse12]

Patched 87 Corporations that are working with the government.

[@Carl_Johnson_from_grove_street]

lmfao im dead

[@patched8789]

WithoutRemorse12 Welcome the capitalism

[@RandomEmperor]

Queer, trans and Jewish? Oh alright understandable, bro is playing in max difficulty

[@dcrzygreen806]

It’s like that family guy episode “I’m a woman, I’m a horse, I’m a broom.”

[@selmaa6x]

💀

[@JohnDoe-bq5oo]

you mean easiest difficulty?

[@viktorthevictor6240]

​@@JohnDoe-bq5oo Yeah, because it's so easy to be trans in this political climate. Get a grip

[@riverpierson288]

Bro what political environment these trans people have it the easiest if you make fun of them you go to jail or can't ever get a job

[@ablues15]

Fighting Nazis and fascists should be considered a good thing. If right-wing people don’t consider themselves to be fascists why do they consider anti-fascist groups as opponents?

[@wtfishappening8476]

They are young, dumb and don't work so don't care.

[@hugoreeves2166]

because they have blurred the lines between fascists and normal people, and have an excuse to attack anybody

[@DRob-gq3ki]

@ablues15 They are about as “Anti fascist” as North Korea is “Democratic Peoples Republic”

[@ericyarmey4454]

Because the group's name isn't what they actually stand for.

[@czbolio]

Because they think right wingers are fascists when they’re not

[@lynam0]

those Asian people looking confused at this protest was the funniest thing ive seen today

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

As an Asian myself, I find it hilarious when everyone in the world do the same thing.

[@akunlama89]

Hongkong protest

[@boyprince7607]

Lol. I legit thought I was the only one that saw that

[@imapanda2434]

Time stamp?

[@wildhunt2235]

Wii peaceful asiean

[@ChairmanMeow1]

I respect that vice basically just gave us the info without any commentary. thats what the news should do.

[@honkee4600]

Yeah cause they were probably terrified that someone from antifa would set fire to their HQ if they said something slightly biased

[@RGRundeRGRound]

YUP, as a Right Wing gun owner, they did a fair job even with the 3% movement. Except, I think that group in Georgia is pretty small, in fact.

[@profesorplacerpulposo]

They select the words and the order of the narrative Attention.

[@andypacmanperez]

The news outlets do this as well they just let their editors do the talking for them

[@TheRoyal30]

@@RGRundeRGRound I just watched that one before this. Vice did a really good job of letting the people explain why they believe what they believe.

[@gabrielj1644]

So glad that everyone is having a nice, civil discussion in the comments.

[@tiernanwearen8096]

Where's the freikorps when you need them!?

[@aceboog4546]

Black Lives Matter.

[@DatHombre]

@@aceboog4546 damn, see a second ago I hated them but your comment really changed my mind. Thanks for making a massive difference in the world!!

[@donkeykongisbetterthanmari7495]

@@aceboog4546 and when only one life matters, that life will remain and die alone.

[@filthyan1mal588]

@@donkeykongisbetterthanmari7495 it's called an endling. Too much responsibility for m.

[@oncaphillis]

I'm pretty sure the picture labeled "Germany 1943" is not Germany in 1943

[@darthtyranous4514]

Yeah it’s 1924 (quick google search lol)

[@Blisi66]

Looking for people arguing in the comments, all i found was people talking about everyone arguing in the comments😂

[@polin1710]

thats cause most of the internet is right wing, might i say nazis. hence the difference in comment sections between this one and the videos on nazis

[@Tammygranstaff]

Me to tbh 💀

[@jacob8265]

@@polin1710 just becouse you are right wing doesnt means you are a nazi LOL

[@Ismael-kc3ry]

I disagree with you. Boom.

[@Tammygranstaff]

@@Ismael-kc3ry you thought you ate that huh

[@jaredkiser6578]

This is actually decent journalism because you let their own words paint the picture. Good job vice.

[@pebblepod30]

It may depend on if you agree with their idoelogy. If I use an equal standard, it was actually quite poor: didn't ask them obvious questions; got some facts wrong; didn't ask them challenging questions either. The Right in politics renounces their crazies (the Manipulative Media doesn't seem to report that). We on the Left are endorsing them. Is it any wonder Trump is winning? I'm not American, I'm Australian (by immigration), but that's what I see. Trump has exposed the hatred and racist double standards of my own group. And he deliberately whips it up, because that's how he wins (it worked each time, didn't it?).

[@stewpidasso288]

They let their own words paint the lunacy, Jared.

[@destroya3303]

But their own words are total bullshit. They project everything they do onto their enemies

[@BG-rx6ts]

@@pebblepod30 so trump praising David Duke is renouncing crazies?

[@pixeldoor4792]

Dude they tell journalism as it should be; the truth there not left leaning but the truth tends to be.

[@atomiccheeser8535]

*climbs over a wall with a opening 2 feet away

[@gazmazkOG]

Can't make this up

[@Jreb1865]

Lol...I seen that also...So much for situational awareness....If you can't find a hole in the wall IRL....how can you claim you can find a hole in someone's thought...They are becoming the very thing they claim to hate...

[@easypete9392]

Pretty sure there’s a gate there

[@sodaholic228]

That's pretty much a metaphor for what antifa is

[@CJDcow]

I didn't realize the first 2 were both women. May God help us all. Thanks.

[@JR-ol3hx]

I think it's great and needed. These people have a lot of guts and are true Americans saving other Americans. Being nice isn't getting us anywhere.

[@crunchagrail2881]

Look everyone! They were wearing masks before it was cool

[@bradleysmith9431]

Masks were never cool!

[@crunchagrail2881]

SARCASM

[@Аку-ю7ф]

@Coco Chanel cry about it

[@emilchen9866]

From Taiwan, did mask before Covid

[@adrianarakis8036]

Yeah beat up that mail box, teach those fascists a lesson!

[@loooooopy]

Damn racist mailboxes are everywhere!!

[@theboatman360]

Hahaha now that's funny!

[@theburgernoder2441]

That mailbox is clearly doing a Nazi salute!

[@jits2q127]

@@loooooopy lol

[@xrizbira]

Mailbox Lives Matter

[@rexx9496]

A lot of people get confused about the term fascism. The term was originally to explain the Mussolini way of authoritarian government. Centralized state power and ultra nationalism.

[@qordar]

they're fighting something that doesn't exist, it's quite funny seeing them say they are fighting an authoritarian government that oppresses them but they antifa grows in numbers and has 0 censorship.

[@JNRaudersant]

Fascism comes from the fasces, socialist organization very near to this crackheads ideologies, then mussolini refounded the organizaion into the Partito Nazional Fascista

[@crystalizedExposed]

@@Devin7Eleven It may originate from that, but when most people think about it they think militarist, nationalist, violent, and anti-democratic.

[@DAWGDARKER]

@@Devin7Eleven man listen..... there is another point here that you are forgetting.... most important one in fascism..... that you people think your community is above all...... stop calling em cowards when you are too afraid to acknowledge what you stand for........

[@cnsk646]

@@Devin7Eleven go back to school

[@sonic1k]

Takes more guts to be a antifa and be marked by the government for life than to be a fascist

[@matthews7805]

Don't kid yourself. Antifa are the fascists.

[@Pirateking2350]

It takes being unemployed and not being a real man

[@webster1116]

@@Pirateking2350 So real men wouldn't stand for their beliefs despite being threatened by both the government and other violent groups?

[@Pirateking2350]

@@webster1116 they’re beliefs fit in the “entitled mentality”. Whining and bitching because they’re personally losing in life which is why they have time to huddle in their little soyboy circles and cry together

[@jo9932]

You guys seriously still think you're the anti establishment 😂. Several members of antifa organizations have been confirmed to work in the FBI. You guys *are* the establishmen

[@Yassy1337]

If i had a dollar for every time he said "Nazi" i would have enough money to move to the usa

[@thomaschristou1075]

Why on earth would you want to move to that godforsaken place

[@jae3208]

@@thomaschristou1075 coming from an American, I ask the same thing. this place is a hellhole. i wish i could leave.

[@thomaschristou1075]

@Johan Liebert I doubt it. Probably used to be the case 50 years ago but not anymore

[@thomaschristou1075]

@Johan Liebert the American middle class might be richer than the Nowegian middle class, but at least you won't find Norwegians having to choose between medical care and paying their rent

[@thomaschristou1075]

@Johan Liebert It amazes me that the country with the most billionaires in the world can also pass as a 3rd world country at times. And the fact that people living there are okay with it is bewildering.

[@bigbowlowrong4694]

That geek getting punched while talking about Pepe never fails to make me laugh

[@thesk9704]

timestamp?

[@bigbowlowrong4694]

@@thesk9704 8:45

[@Furysonofrage]

@Mer Der no because they're not literal Nazis

[@eliotttttt]

@Mer Der I've yet to see someone who calls themselves antifa call for a white ethno state

[@LeBoomStudios]

A leaf, who woulda guessed.

[@chief8559]

For each action there’s an opposite reaction. Freedom of speech is not freedom of consequence.

[@Viv1dCS]

*Grabs police bike* “Why are they hitting me?”

[@Viv1dCS]

Alexander McDaneld haha, didn’t even realize

[@klauslehrmann3906]

'Xactly. Notice how they speak of things only on the surface, saying Trump is a fascist, with no deep explaination. The say the police are violent, without proving Antifa was not the first to resort to violence. They say violent means are a last resort, thus admitting they are willing to be violent, while they are left-wing, who claims to be against violence. Antifa says early on, a lot of people are in danger, without clarifying what group(s) of people are endangered. I'll tell you who are indanger, Antifa, the people who are not muslim invaders. Not the invaders, as you think. The left do not even know what fascism, nazism, tollerence, or help is,thinking help is not pushing others on, but taking over the troubles of others, solving things for them entirely, thus not helping others in the longer run. But hey, the fact that the left thinks only short-term is no new thing. Why does this make me thing of the 2007-movie, Hot Fuzz? Hmmm...

[@sherlockkush8154]

Law exist Antifa extremist breaks the law and gets arrested Every leftist 😲

[@Fred82ndAbn]

:D :D D :D D :D D :D D :D D :D D :D D :D

[@gronkhfan541]

I hope every cop you ever met dies

[@superdave577]

I'm really glad you attacked that Newspaper box, it was really pissing me off and looked like a troublemaker.

[@terranaxiomuk]

Yeah that bin is a symbol of oppression ir some sht 😆

[@cnjor2331]

Yeah

[@Boxbeat666]

It was in the Confederate army once

[@dialectixemcee2428]

it was cuz the pig was chasing

[@RGRundeRGRound]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@pumpkinlord1117]

There is a lot of talking in the comments, but to be honest, i think its good that Vice lets both extremes talk, unfiltered. Something TV-news cant

[@jennifersuzannebk5149]

Except for the fact that when they represent the alt right they bring up stuff that doesn't even exist and call us Nazis but when they talk about the fascist left they allow them to go around lying about the definition of fascism which is literally people who try and stop others from talking and spreading their points of view

[@NotesNNotes]

I think what shocks me the most is that being against racism and ethnic cleansing makes you an extremist

[@carlruppert7324]

@@NotesNNotes no, being against racism and ethnic cleansing doesn't make you an extremist. But indiscriminately assaulting and terrorizing people definitely does.

[@johnsomerville4137]

@@NotesNNotes I think maybe they say extremist because the bloc are probably one of the left most groups/loose organizations in the US, hence they are the extreme

[@GolfingInParadise783]

@@NotesNNotes maybe not extreme…just a bunch of crybabies. Can you not see the irony of them being ‘anti fascist’ yet they try and silence the opposing point of view…which is exactly what fascism. These are the most intolerant people in earth, trained Marxist losers with no futures, so they go and wreck innocent peoples businesses and property…you are NOT on the proper side of ‘good v evil’ here. This movement is evil, so is BLM

[@MikeStellino-t9v]

It still amazes me that these people turn up to events wearing jackboots, covering their faces, carrying weapons, and attacking unarmed people and still consider themselves antifascists

[@musically-assureddestructi8843]

they’re unwitting stooges for corporate interests and they don’t even realize it

[@Walker733]

They only do that because they know their opponents won't retaliate.

[@T1kr3b3u]

"Communist" doesn't sound as palatable as "ANTI FASCIST" lol...

[@archermadsen7744]

Absolutely delusional. Violence and fascism are not the same thing. You can fight fascism with violence. Antifa are the only people brave enough to resist fascism.

[@summerblade3790]

What’s wrong with covering faces? & if you have proof of antifa attacking LEO’s in situations asides from self defence id like to see it

[@KrazyKatPosse]

“So much for the ‘tolerant’ left” - Mussolini’s last words, translated

[@RenzoM2811]

Lmao, they don't claim to be tolerant. Liberals are the tolerant left

[@kylekarcher9745]

They’re just flat out cowards hiding behind masks. If you stand for what you believe in why hide your face?????

[@SirTipsi]

@@RenzoM2811 classical liberals maybe. Not today's average liberal.

[@prometheus5405]

Mussolini was as worst as Stalin. Both were mass murderers.

[@tylerbozinovski4624]

@@prometheus5405 Stalin was way worse.

[@stareintoyoursoul9883]

Those two confused Asian guys had me rolling 😭 2:54

[@matthewklabunde2543]

I am going to be honest this is at 69 likes so I can't like it I am sorry

[@rahsaanofori]

Im dead bruh 😂

[@user-gu1hl2kx2k]

@Soldat ᚦᚬᚩᛅᛄᚢᚠᚻᛈᛉᛋᛏᛒᛖᛗᛠᛢᛣᛥᚸ they cant. they just dont speak up or move overseas

[@coldcoffee1506]

@@user-gu1hl2kx2k that’s a childish description of what China is. It’s definitely tucked up in a lot of ways but the political repression is not as bad as the states make it seem.

[@Ejexion]

@@coldcoffee1506 Would you like to tell that to a Uyghur, or to any of the journalists that have been critical of the CCP???

[@ryansteele5102]

“We don’t like violence”, 30 seconds later, “If we punch fascists in the face, they won’t appear in public”

[@percycabelloolive5151]

ryan steele also "we're not regular protesters we achieve things through violence" and later "the police are the violent ones" thought they usually go to protests and stab people, beat them up and even light them on fire but yeah... Cops are way more violent with their pepersprays

[@MasterMarcon]

ryan steele I think what they were trying to say that they do not prefer violence, but sometimes it is necessary. Not saying I support or oppose them, just an interpretation

[@Angel-wf6jh]

Theres a difference between liking something and doing something you feel you need to do. If you think the guy got a boner after punching the guy you're porbably right but that is an assumption unless you see the bulge 100%

[@tagle2mec243]

Ryan steele It's useless to quote that and put it outside of their context, they have well explained how they are looking at the situation. There are many people, greeks philosopher, painter, writter, and they all were against war but if the painting and the music and the philosophal thing have been able to be that evolved, that peaceful and now they are against all form of violence it was only because at one certain point their countries were dominant and heavyli armed. Their peaceful will have seen the day "because of wars" / "thanks to wars". That is not a nonsense, if someone try to lead and grow by being aggressive, violent, making people around being scary, and if the government do nothing against them then the only possible option might be the violence, may you hate it or love it, it might be the only possible option to stop that. So yes, you can be violent and sometimes you could even NEED to be violent in order to live in peace and that, even if you hate violence.

[@Milkboy14]

lol, but they don't need to be violent. What they are doing is the opposite of what anyone needs. These people are ignorant and dangerous. To give any type of justification for their actions is absolute ludicrous

[@rell0223]

why do they all sound like they are about to cry?

[@jabibgalt5551]

First, because they are fully involved in what they do, emotionally and psychologically, and they feel true passion regarding their purpose. Second, they must feel deep sorrow, given that their role as Antifa has a very tragic side to it; they go through constant fear, violence, hatred, rejection and solitude, which may seem unjust given that they are fighting for a legit good cause: against fascism. I am sure all that is very hard to deal with.

[@jabibgalt5551]

@Andrew Christopher Fascism is the arbitrary use of violence against peaceful individuals based on motives of nationality and race. Antifa is a movement against that. So, what's wrong with it? You are based on a fallacy of generalization. You are assuming that all people involved in Antifa are the same. But chances and probability are against you. People's characteristics and attributes can be combined endlessly. There are all sorts of people. But the only thing they all share for sure, is their rejection towards fascism. Fascism is hell, man; that is a fact. It is violence and blood. So it is understandable when people get violent against those who promote fascism. Wouldn't you get mad at a bunch of people on the street promoting pedophilia? Sorry you don't get to promote fascism in a peaceful way? Of course not, you don't get to promote violence in a peaceful way. Antifa is the reaction from people against fascist propaganda. People fighting that fight, even though they make mistakes, deserve respect and support.

[@reptiledisfunction9232]

Fragility

[@reptiledisfunction9232]

​@@vagabaassassina3461 you and Andrew are both wrong, but Andrew at least has a sense of humor, you're just making a threat. Which is ironically unprotected speech. Still feel like you're on the right side of history? You shouldn't, degenerate.

[@reptiledisfunction9232]

@@jabibgalt5551 Antifa and anyone else using violence in any way towards any goal should rot in prison. This is a democracy, you don't get to bitch and whine and throw a fit when the government is in a rightward swing. That's antidemocratic, and wrong. Most of all it's childish. That doesn't even mention the fact that they're diametrically opposed to free speech, which is terrible and reprehensible on its own. Once you get your head out of your ass and stop calling everyone you disagree with a nazi so you feel ok about punching them; Take a look at this objectively and you'll see there's a whole lot wrong with it. Just to clarify, anyone on the other side using violence is just as bad. But antics is worse because they have such a cunty and smug attitude about it, it pisses me off, they show no remorse for being terrible people. Truly slimy and disgusting.

[@donaldduck2970]

Almost 5 years later and looking back retrospectively these people accomplished absolutely nothing

[@DefensiveDriver]

If anything they made the right stronger lol

[@julianG1212]

They’re goal is to abolish all hierarchy.

[@AnonymousReader-er4eg]

They've increased polarization. That's an accomplishment as it sets the scene for the physical divisions and unrest to come. (Most of) Urban America is becoming increasingly leftist and liberal, meanwhile (most of) Rural America is becoming increasingly rightist and conservative. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. 2020 should have been a red-flag, not the protests, but the riots that followed them had a far larger spread domestically (and internationally) than in '68 and '92, as the white population continues to decline and minorities make up a larger proportion of Americans. Whites themselves are posed to become a minority by 2045, and given their declining birth rates, this projection is quite likely. Both, the far-left and far-right have become more popular thanks to their rapid spread online, and both appear to be calling their supporters to arms, but for now, only a minority have done so. Thankfully, at the moment, it's mostly just a bunch of foolish adolescents who have nothing better to do, and are just looking for a life purpose even if its petty violence. But once the new generation of political extremists in America matures and grows up, only to be more radical than the last, it's bound to get worse from there on-wards.

[@nidhogg6344]

@@julianG1212 yes, they want to abolish hierarchy, because they are at the bottom.

[@M60A3]

They were tired of holding Signs and amounting toi nothing so they Still do the same thing with the addition of being violents

[@DKTechYT]

*Tries to steal Police bike and gets beaten up* "The cops hate us... lol

[@GAMRMNTS2]

DK Tech 😂

[@theingeniousone5141]

I have never seen a black antifa member In all my time in Kami's Legion

[@pbrexn1]

LOL...police are the meanies

[@canadiantrucker9574]

Rex Noaker How do you get the little black kids to stop jumping on the bed? Put Velcro on the ceiling. How do you get them down? Tell the Mexican kids it's a piñata.

[@Th3Snipe]

Or you know... Ever heard of something called satire and relativation? Look it up. Also look up freedom of speech, political correctness has no place in this worlds society. It keeps politics away from discussing some important problems for example immigration and refugees, because they are afraid of being labelled a nazi by these extreme leftists. I'm not right nor left, I'm a realist.

[@nitolak]

shoutout to all the people that actually have the balls to do this

[@littlereptilian7580]

Well this job pays good money

[@brokenglassshimmerlikestar3407]

I dunno. I live in France. We got Black Bloc here too but they just break and burn sh*t whenever there's like a march or something. It's just hard for normal non political people to understand or support violent groups. Burnt cars and broken store fronts don't help anyone.

[@gaita3827]

You're not "non political", you just side with the status quo

[@jackboehm8408]

@@gaita3827 I can't tell if this is a joke or not.

[@corail53]

This is how all black bloc groups are - they are the folks who come in to wreck stuff and start riots. They will make peaceful protest violent - no political ties at all they just want to cause chaos. This documentary did very poorly in showing what they actually are because this one small group co-opted it. Often times they are agent provocateurs hired by police - they were caught out in a G8 summit protest once - one of them was an on duty officer to start riots because a riot will turn the attention away from what the protest was about and the news will then focus on the riot.

[@FriarJoe66]

You can be ideologically opposed to it, but to deny that violence and property damage can bring about change is to ignore history

[@survivalistsguide4104]

I don’t think you are talking about blac bloc it sounds like you are talking about the looters that slither into protests to loot local businesses

[@what7287]

so much irony and hypocrisy in one video.

[@NeostormXLMAX]

lmao VICE is basically the hardleft themselves

[@JoseGranny]

NeostormXLMAX You might want to look up who Gavin McInnes is.

[@j20reis]

A_Transposition_Error gavin left vice BECAUSE it was going hard left.

[@doublestarranch6070]

They don't advocate the use of violence guys... oh ... or wait they do advocate the use of violence. Or is it that they just don't advocate someone else using violence on them because it hurts their feelings? Nonetheless it's not like they hide behind a mask like a terrorist does...no wait.. I was just informed they do in fact wear masks by the man child..I mean She-man child ..no I mean something that is about something else. But seriously what the hell do they actually want to accomplish?

[@Cralcker]

Vice did such a terrible job making antifa look good

[@petelattimer2088]

Because Antifa is a good thing.

[@OKRam]

@@5thdisciple940 That is so incredibly stupid its almost funny if it was not so sad. The 'bourgeoisie' isnt the one thats going to pay for the damages done by these bored and confused children that call themselves antifa...its their poor parents and all other taxpayers. As if these lefty-loons havent leeched off of society enough...they go on to destroy and expect some kind of change to come that nobody is looking for in the first place. And everybody else is left with the bill. Thanks Antifa.

[@ARCHITACADEMY]

@@5thdisciple940 bro... trying to wreck small businesses just wrecks the economy. That hurts everyone.

[@Osiris_fc]

Yeah they look so bad.

[@ARCHITACADEMY]

@@5thdisciple940 mate, u a troll? Most people would prefer some inequality than everyone suffering

[@sirthomasevangelion1258]

The Alan Walker gang seems alive and well

[@Kabcr]

It's a fascinating social and cultural dynamic, the epitome of modern political dysfunction. It's very interesting hearing the perspective of both the hard right and the hard left. I would never really support either group, but hearing both sides speak their own without a filter really expands on my worldview. Thank you for bringing that to us, Vice.

[@senkobread2208]

Same I find it fascinating how people view the world now I would never be willing to fully defend far right or far left politics but it’s fascinating just watching what they say and do

[@opforjr4784]

@@senkobread2208 I feel like the far right and left have more in common than they actually think. They have the same flavor of ideas and energy and they use the same kinds of tactics to enforce their ideas on the larger majority of people that are really just in the middle.

[@TheWitchKing456]

Exactly, it's very interesting. For me it ends when the violence starts, at the end all these types of extremism comes down to oppressing the other side.

[@TrollUnderSomeBridge]

@@TheWitchKing456 To be frank, as is human nature and history, one can not assume the goal is to oppress. Oppression, in that sense, is merely an excuse, a tool and a medium. The goal of authoritarianism, both for the right and for the left, is to make their leaders powerful, wealthy people.

[@Mrbg123]

@@opforjr4784 “the far left” and “the far right” are very diverse concepts. There are some on the far left like stalinists who would share a lot of authoritarian ideas with neo-nazis, but others on the far left such as anarcho-communists would be completely against any nazi ideology. Some on the far left and right share ideas but many on the far left and right couldn’t be more opposed to each other. In actuality viewing politics as left or right leaves out a lot of nuance that is very important to understand the views a person has.

[@badger297]

This comment section is toxic af. This is good journalism

[@frizzy3249]

You don’t know what journalism is

[@Fenelope_Vendivic]

I've been looking for you. 15 years, I've had to watch my mother suffer because you never showed. I'm coming to find you and leave you with a "life long handicap". That's what your ex called me, but I'll still call her my mom. You on the other hand deserve will get nothing but my contempt.

[@badger297]

@@Fenelope_Vendivic yer amazing son

[@Fenelope_Vendivic]

@@badger297 15 years and 13 minutes too late, father.

[@Soulpuddinghtx]

Agreed 🥂

[@cotyb5028]

This is exactly why I liked vice years ago, they can show both sides. We need our conservative and liberal medias to show these things and not just cherry pick the ones they think will help their agenda.. It's scary how both sides have these extreme activists but their side of the media won't talk about it to help calm the tensions we have right now.

[@Pyasa.shaitan]

Government is doing extreme things which you just ignore $30 trillion given to wallst, $1 trillion given to military, job outsourcing to poor countries with stagnant wages and Destruction of communities & family isn’t? Make someone else drink that cool-aid

[@anotherguy9402]

No they don't 🤣 they cherry pick the most angelic of what they support and the worst of what they claim is thier opposition giving your the illusion your making your own opinion on the matter. Humans have documented and been perfecting the art of controlling humans for over 4000 years.

[@jamesomalley5247]

Yeah agreed we need more reliable media now days. I'm politically moderate and i think both parties are becoming waaay to extreme. I agree and disagree with both parties . You have to look at around at different sources of media you can't just find a reliable one.

[@padawansound6423]

​@@jamesomalley5247In what way are the Democrats at all extreme? They're centre left at a push, probably centre right by most European standards. Neo-liberalism is not leftism.

[@IsItKebabOrTurd]

I find it so funny how these extremists act like they are so different from the far right while using the same violent tactics

[@dpet7756]

why are dislikes overtaking likes, this is actually good journalism for once

[@harevalkyrie5373]

Because it's much more dire than you think. Laws are preset now to undermine the legistlative branch.

[@m0rty161]

Because people see 'left' and get angry

[@gregmadore6365]

Because Vice is trash lol

[@hamasakibibou7433]

Because it makes leftist who actually watch vice realize that they are the fachist

[@yourma2000]

@@m0rty161 Or that the title of the video is already slanted in favour of one side.

[@captaincake4331]

It's a mass gathering of Starbucks Baristas!

[@jacobgriesmer9470]

"Those who make non-violent revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK and MLK 1999 Memphis court case proved the USG killed MLK. Nazis get the gallows. Nazis are anti-American, against the Constitution, and break all the National, International laws and norms, all common conceptions of right and wrong in every society. The FBI work with neo-Nazis, the KKK, Costra Nostra, etc. that's been proven, research the 1975 Church Committee Senate Hearings in the Library of Congress. Fred Hampton was getting street gangs to stop fighting and the FBI brutally, conspired, poisoned and murdered him next to his pregnant fiance. Thankfully a movie is finally coming out about him next year. The FBI probably bombed Judi Bari in the 1990s as well. Her family did win a court case as well. Geronimo Pratt won his court case too years later after being in prison and solitary for many years. CISPES and many others proved beyond all reason of a doubt on the official record, straight from the horse's mouth the USG are not legitimate. Recall Jefferson. Any REAL militia would have protected the Panthers, AIM, SDS, etc. in the '60s and '70s, but they "lie, cheat and steal" so they were no where to be found but in the offices of the tyrants aiding the Domestic terrorists, breaking their oath, destroying freedom, democracy and America. The way to stop these losers is to debate them and prove them wrong before an audience, thus exposing them and neutering any BS hateful "logic" they spew. "They" probably killed Thomas Merton too, whom KIng, Jr. nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. The Merton Center were labeled pacifists by the FBI and monitored and harassed illegally. The FBI labeled the SCLC a hate group. Where's the truth tellers? The truth is out there it's in the archives, see to it no one leaves campus without knowing the truth. Who will bell the cat? Golden BB, eye of the storm www.scribd.com/document/343564737/COINTELPRO-MLK-Flyer

[@TRXLLGE]

Frenky's prod. I know...

[@cranberryjuice3469]

Bro you could've just said biden 2020 or trump 2020 to get your fucking point across. I cant even tell your stance

[@MeatCatCheesyBlaster]

Hark Triton, hark! Bellow, bid our father the Sea King rise from the depths full foul in his fury! Black waves teeming with salt foam to smother this young mouth with pungent slime, to choke ye, engorging your organs til’ ye turn blue and bloated with bilge and brine and can scream no more -- only when he, crowned in cockle shells with slitherin’ tentacle tail and steaming beard take up his fell be-finned arm, his coral-tine trident screeches banshee-like in the tempest and plunges right through yer gullet, bursting ye -- a bulging bladder no more, but a blasted bloody film now and nothing for the harpies and the souls of dead sailors to peck and claw and feed upon only to be lapped up and swallowed by the infinite waters of the Dread Emperor himself -- forgotten to any man, to any time, forgotten to any god or devil, forgotten even to the sea, for any stuff for part of Winslow, even any scantling of your soul is Winslow no more, but is now itself the sea!

[@J.T.19134]

@Iso Gh0sted its things that happened 60, 40, and 25 years ago. What About Justine Damond, Cannon Hinnant, you know who they are??

[@J.T.19134]

Does ANYONE know Cannon Hinnant or Justine Damond?? I don't remember any riots or protest for these tragedies

[@newname2664]

Fighting back against genocide is never wrong

[@richardrose9943]

By genocide you mean the killing before birth of nearly 1/3 of the black population?

[@MrCmon113]

Another genocide prevented by lighting a neighborhood on fire and destroying trash cans.

[@Benny19097]

There is no genocide! Just the left is violent, societally destructive and for some reason do not want to live in reality. Everyone is responsible for their own actions.

[@vladimirkolesnikov2903]

Planned parenthood was a genocide

[@iac92]

Antifa needs to be declared as a socially harmful organization, just like drug syndicates, scam groups, tax evaders, etc.

[@Happy_Teddy24]

2:54 Has HongKong flashback.

[@chrissomeone2642]

Haha 😂

[@ryanmuro]

chris someone 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@chrissomeone2642]

@@ryanmuro 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@watchman0062]

Oof

[@yeenxx5814]

Hahahahaha

[@i-wanna-be-adored]

Probably too afraid to ask the waiter for ketchup

[@Basdoesdropout]

As a member of A Black Bloc Style organization...can confirm.

[@backtrail9991]

still braver than cops

[@abominati0n]

7:28 synchronized baton unsheating

[@Magyyyyy]

Well they're trained professionals after all

[@mastyer0fReality]

Great observation enjoyed that. I saw it the first time but it didnt register. They won the fear fight at 7:28

[@chasekartak1789]

imagine being a cop and you pull out your baton and the protesters just pull out their own baton

[@dismasdillon1514]

The cops are badass

[@TheJPinder]

@@dismasdillon1514 yeah, b/c beating up unarmed people is badass.

[@Venicipian]

"Don't want them finding out who we are, tracking us back to our home" Literally does the same to them lmao

[@max-eq3qo]

There’s a difference between fascism and anti-fascism

[@Orange-po6qv]

@@max-eq3qo There is a difference between calling yourself 'antifascist' and being an anti fascist

[@dice_8650]

I mean, they did straight up say they use fear tactics. I'm sure they're aware of the hypocrisy, but when it comes to two extremist and opposed ideologies clashing, I doubt either side cares how they succeed

[@anita-rw3mx]

Fascists: I want minorities to die and expand this ideology Antifa: no... (contacts their boss) You: well THATS hypocritical!!!

[@derekvaldez1793]

@@dice_8650 fear tactics against who?

[@loading5578]

This guy says I’ve gone home with bruises some went home with broken arms well what did you expect u were blocking the road did u want goodie bag

[@thezohan6274]

21M Views lmaoo exactly

[@thebanana8550]

No, but he's trying to demonstrate that the police aren't fucking angels when it comes do dealing with conflict, so we shouldn't be either. Blocking the street is a pretty effective way to be heard.

[@bronsongt]

Yet fascists are allowed to escape unharmed.

[@purkle200]

the banana It's disruptive and can cause problems. Like say if an ambulance is rushing someone to the ER that needs surgery stat and if they're late they die. That's all on Antifa

[@thebanana8550]

+prkle200 I mean the streets they're blocking are usually cleared anyway since they're along the marching routes of the Alt-Right groups Antifa is protesting. Blocking a trafficked thoroughfare is amoral and disruptive unless you've already worked with law enforcement to ensure a route through, but blocking a side road that's already closed is not an issue. Also I'm sure most members of Antifa would get out of the way stat if an ambulance needed to get through.

[@gabrielboi3465]

I just want to grill for God's sake

[@yeeg7086]

Mega based. Best comment out of all 19k comments on this video.

[@ih8google]

Fresh meme

[@turbosoggy4213]

Im making pulled pork who wants some?

[@someguyfromarcticfreezer6854]

@@turbosoggy4213 Pulled pork is leftist symbol in Europe. IF people want to immigrated to Europe they have accept to live as Europeans, if not, they will send back to lifestyle that meet their needs. European rightist usually are people against all race beside themselves. Europe has many political parties BUT almost all of them want to banished Islamic laws, Israeli laws, Christian laws, etc. *FIRST WE ARE THE PEOPLE* . *GODS COMES LATER*

[@turbosoggy4213]

@@someguyfromarcticfreezer6854 i just wanted some good bbq

[@nics.x1917]

i see a lot of alan walker supporters

[@ShoaibKhan-bz5qm]

yea defo reminded me of him

[@fire-cloud27]

the USA is nearing a collapse like Rome.....

[@weirjwerijrweurhuewhr588]

Nah, if it comes to a civil war, I bet you these soyboys aint winning.

[@craigrockk147]

@Lumine Moon people back then we're more intelligent then now? 😂😂 that doesn't even make sense.

[@senoraraton]

@@weirjwerijrweurhuewhr588 Guess what. We have guns on the left too, and we know how to use them to protect ourselves. socialistra.org/

[@stavka227]

“Muh ancient heritage and rome great empire :DDDDD”

[@Dinco422]

We can only hope.

[@WhereMySmilingCrittersAt]

For yall in the comments, remember that 1. We arent changing these ppls minds on BOTH sides 2. Dont argue with people John Brown whould have shot. 3. Have a good day!

[@zoobz5930]

8:17 how they slowly bring down the sign 😂😂😂

[@Leo-gl4lb]

i just saw this lol

[@DaneAnderson-j4c]

😡

[@pickleism253]

Dont want to get sued later on

[@theamazingchannel470]

Fight against white supremacy and racism.... Don't have any black or brown members. 🤔

[@fredb2858]

@Irreliva Vonic How was he being racist?

[@harambe8079]

Irreliva Vonic you are beyond stupid

[@nikkoandkyle]

@cullrapists brown and black people kill each other in the thousands. Cops kills them in numbers that aren't even close.

[@heathkorinek2477]

@ cullrapists: Oh yeah? How many black, or brown people were shot during the Mike Brown, Trayvon Martin, countless BLM riots? That's right ABSOLUTELY ZERO. Please respond with your rhetoric about how Brown, and Martain were just innocent little boys in their early teens (like those straight up propaganda photos shown on the news)...please please show yourself to be either totally ignorant of the TRUTH, or just a bold faced liar. PLEASE!

[@alondor8157]

Bahaha. This was hilarious.

[@gabrielarista450]

Where’s the black people at tho

[@jordanelder321]

All killed by the right

[@archiewalters3633]

@@jordanelder321 nah ANTIFA is just all angry white people, very few of my friends who are part of minorities agree with them because they are violent Fascists

[@memma8651]

@@archiewalters3633 hahahahaha

[@StormyJBlake]

Not publicizing our next moves...

[@sirrivet9557]

Black lives matter is kind of similar, although they are focused on black issues of course. And i do actually see a fair few number of black people in these groups, it’s probably more to do with regional population.

[@carlhancke8730]

“The rights will track our employers and jobs and try to beat us up” Proceeds to do exactly the same 😂

[@CrisisGuildWOW]

right? hypocrites, yet they are so brainwashed, they can't see it.

[@blitzn00dle50]

@@CrisisGuildWOW how antifa sees it, persecuting someone for a belief that they can change literally today is not the same as persecuting someone for something arbitrary and unchangeable. to argue against them requires that you deconstruct this belief

[@thistleheartandsnowfallsoul11]

@@blitzn00dle50 Well said! I think one of the most important defining aspects of fascism is targeting what people have no control over./gen

[@smith2354]

4chan be like "ALRIGHT EVERYBODY, PAY ATTENTION TO THEIR EYES, VOICES, AND GAIT! WE CAN TRACK THESE GUYS DOWN AND DOX THEM!"

[@austinhealey1120]

They will too haha

[@johnyoung4441]

They have an entire database on ANTIFA members

[@pizzahut5308]

Well when you are bashing people in the head, who are just trying to keep the peace, with a bike lock you should be doxed and arrested.

[@mrlassotool]

@@x-x-xx-cfdsde5444 We still have far more right win terrorism in the US. Look it up.

[@mithrandell9239]

Acurssed I doubt that unless you count terrorist acts perpetrated by left wing countries (which is probably nothing compared to all the other neoliberal countries in the world)

[@Knockdown-mu4pk]

"They'll try to contact your employer beat you up on the street" proceeds to try and contact employer

[@ophirwesley4424]

Yes. that's the kind of thing you do to nazis. fascists do not deserve your sympathy.

[@kynx9r]

The difference is that the leftist has good intentions and the right winger wants to hurt the leftist verbally and emotionally.

[@dogeamos2358]

@@kynx9r Miss the part where they say they want them to feel uncomfortable? Honestly watching this both sides seem absolutely insane, honestly crazy how far extremism has gone

[@kynx9r]

@@dogeamos2358 yea ofc they want nazis to feel uncomfortable? Is that wrong? Are you supporting nazis?

[@scarfstrings.134]

@@kynx9r You are literally the guy in this comedy sketch. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gonGeX9ogJKFick

[@Haltzo]

Here in Belgium they say they're extreme right, if the people don't like what the politicians decide they're immediately portrayed as "hard left" or "extreme right" 😂

[@MatthewPeter-bf2hc]

So its not just America. From what I've seen it happens like that in England, France, Greece, and Germany. And i think recently Australia. Who did it first i wonder?

[@Starlightpassi]

@MatthewPeter-bf2hc Here in Germany, hard lefts are becoming more and more normalised and sadly get less criticised by politicians and society since we have right wingers.

[@Silvreina]

So if the AFD, a far right party, passes anti-trans legislation in a landtag or whatever then when people call them far right, that's just them "Not liking what the politicians decide" ???

[@Silvreina]

@@Starlightpassi What hard left? Die Linke has shot itself in the foot multiple times, and the current KPD is basically non-existent

[@max2257]

True. Radical leftism is almost completely normalized in Germany

[@zeecaptain42]

The women speaking in the interview show so much more reasonable reflection and thought than anyone gives them credit for in mainstream media

[@CmdrEsteban]

Watching Richard Spencer getting his clock cleaned never gets old 😂

[@Matt-wt4ki]

In Australia that's called a coward punch, sums up antifa

[@juanmanueltamayoperez4304]

@@Matt-wt4ki "Australia" genocided the native population because they couldn't live knowing black people could be their pairs, tell me what's more cowardly than that

[@cheesecakeisgross4645]

Well he is a biden voting Democrat. Good.

[@Prprpsksks]

@@Matt-wt4ki cope

[@SinewRending]

@Michael Todd Carpentier *Get squashed, MAGAt.*

[@radstorm7755]

“Remember, keep the hostages safe!”

[@deedumeday518]

Csgo terrorists lmao

[@Theneedlebug]

"This is still a good idea, right guys?..."

[@putinthiscockinurmouth3050]

Trade cops for Anarchists

[@averagenonce6304]

Remember, no russian

[@mikemedcheck8475]

The irony of someone calling themselves an anti fascist and then trying to stop someone from exercising their first amendment right

[@fiendz9116]

Under that logic the dictator always wins because you will have good people doing nothing, and historically, that's who gets screwed.

[@TheAdekrijger]

Wait a minute he said you can use violence against percieved fascists because you can't have public opinion on it. But antifa themselves are supposedly enlightened enough to not only have a public opinion but also use violence in the name of their opinions.

[@sucrenpoudre7593]

Big up from France to you all. Never stop fighting! 🥽🛠☂💥

[@allisondoak9425]

It’s very important to understand what fascism actually is before embarking on anti-fascist action, it’s not just racism or even an aspiration for genocide, those are historically characteristics of imperialism and fascism is a form of imperialism denoting a specific relationship between the state, the economy, external territory, the majority population and the minority populations. It’s an effective apparatus for state genocide, the concentration of power, aggressive expansion and suppression of conflicting ideas. I’m an anti-fascist, and I don’t have NAZIs to fight in the streets where I live and I plan to keep it that way by fighting the conditions that create fascist sentiment and I think the effort in the states can still concentrate on that as well as targeting more strongly actual NAZIs rather than the Alt-right as a whole.

[@thefaulkness]

Allie Doak agreed

[@josephklein3228]

honestly probably the most sane comment against Nazis and the alt right. Antifa could learn something from you.

[@josephklein3228]

Facism isnt all bad neither is liberalism . Its just annoying when people take it to the extreme. Like, the alt right and alt left when there is no reason to do so. Especially when they are someone who will ensue violence for political gain. There are other ways. However, violence has always been a way to gain instant gratification but ultimately never solves the problem.

[@TheMaster4534]

Exactly. And these people would call me a tankie for trying to educate them on what fascism really is.

[@TheMaster4534]

@@josephklein3228 Too bad Antifa would call the sane leftists "tankies" or "Stalin worshippers"

[@rock-ix4nc]

The Richard spencer punch was iconic lmaoooo

[@robmullin1128]

Yeah,it’s pretty much a staple in every bar brawl…..not so epic.

[@thesysop4998]

@@robmullin1128 still funny as hell

[@Venus-cx5sy]

@@thesysop4998 nah it's lame af

[@thesysop4998]

@@Venus-cx5sy I respect your opinion

[@ServusCrux]

@@thesysop4998its assault and illegal and terrorism

[@luisespinoza5318]

8:45 when you try to revive a dead meme

[@FirstLast-ow1pt]

Virtue Live a light love tap? Lol okay

[@usuarionormal6778]

@Virtue Live u need braincells but u dont deserve them

[@Five_31]

haha The Big Orange 2020 👌🐸

[@destroya3303]

4:22 is more like it

[@pathologicaldisfigurement]

usuario normal ok boomer

[@2HighNoon]

Domestic terrorism isn't justified.

[@cardorcash]

as a Russian i must say: this is the cutest police I've ever seen

[@Даниил-ю4р6й]

Ложь.

[@daisymagnus306]

They are violent basterds. Your police is just worst, that's it

[@борисзайцев-ш8о]

Куколды

[@Adonnus100]

And the most violent protests with the bravest protesters.

[@Revolutionary_Fish]

@@Adonnus100 The Russian protesters forcibly taking batons, shields, and vests from polices to beat the hell out of Yeltsin polices and supporters be like: *ArE WE A JOKE tO YOU!!?*

[@BangMaster96]

Antifa is just an idea ~ Joe Biden (2020)

[@McJar]

😂😂😂 facts

[@McJar]

Seems like a really well organized and militarized "idea"

[@jacksji8912]

An "Idea" is something not proposed into action. This is an organised and violent group. This documentary clearly shows that. Breaking windows, throwing objects at police officers, getting physical with a person with opposing beliefs. That's called a hate group. At least the "lll percenters" didn't go around and threaten to take away people's right to fucking talk. That's what these people are doing. They said it themselves.

[@melaninbotswana2474]

We wouldn't have antifa if we didn't have white supremacy nazis and mosolinis of this world antifa is just correcting the wrongs of bigotry racism hate and discrimination

[@melaninbotswana2474]

@@jacksji8912 stop calling them police they are white supremacists in uniform sponsored by racist government

[@tylermacdonald8924]

Why the hell would it be controversial to confront fascists? That's kind of disgusting, but of course the media has to rev up hysteria.

[@Shagyamum]

Antifa are fascist

[@Johmyy51]

@@Shagyamum didn't realize that they were right-wing extremists too! Very cool

[@sebg5145]

@@Johmyy51 fascism is fundamentally left wing, Mussolini was a socialist. Before you comment just do some research, nazism and fascism are different, nazism is right wing while fascism is left wing, the difference being unity through nationality vs class struggle, that’s it. Geovanni gentile (who created fascism) even explains throughly through his writings that fascism is the ultimate form of democracy. It is a union for the people, by the people.

[@Zurgo-fl1kx]

@@sebg5145 Imagine being that politically illiterate

[@isaiahsimmons5776]

politics are made up.

[@paulgrudowski4383]

So can we all agree that those in the extreme right and extreme left are equally abhorent for their views and tactics. If we can all come to agreement on that, then the center is bigger and stronger than we think.

[@ericsierra-franco7802]

I couldn't agree more. They're all zealots, fanatics. All equally pernicious in their rationalizations of using violence.

[@chasevaughan2799]

Being so politically involved must be so maddening

[@moon_wei]

duh

[@PoliteHacker]

They all need to get a job/life.

[@diggy1236]

@@PoliteHacker agreed

[@alienvomitsex]

​@@PoliteHacker must be nice to enjoy white male privilege where politics don't affect you at all

[@rbxless]

As an antifascist, no it's not maddening because my politics are not just "fascism is bad". They are also "eco-anarchism is good". Everyone needs a balance of political opinions to prevent polarization and nihilism.

[@mangoeater6919]

"Dont fight fire with fire" Dont sit in a house and let the flames consume you, do something about it

[@tituskriswanto5110]

do you know founder of proud boy is co founder of vice media

[@PaulaTicks]

Aye, One of the smarts ones!! 🗽 Wish there was about a million more people with brains to do their own research. Nice Job!

[@niandraladie2953]

@@PaulaTicks Yes, Gavin

[@Kaltwasser45]

Gavin McInnes co-founded Vice Magazine in 1994 but was pushed out in 2008 after several years of turmoil following a New York Times interview in which he talked about his pride in being white.

[@moodymona]

But since he's been disassociated with Vice since 2008, what's your point?

[@Crypt0rkid]

mona bram two points. 1. Gavin isn’t a fascist or racist. 2. If you insist Gavin is a racist fascist, therefore VICE was founded by racism and fascism.

[@makaveliliveson]

we live in a south park episode

[@michaelepstein2570]

The #1 problem facing humanity today is anyone who hasn't taken the time to become well-informed, free of misinformation and disinformation, on all the major issues of today AND who is not giving their time, energy, talents and resources to the political process to make sure that only the most Loving/most Wise among us become our public servants.

[@FactStorm]

Damn, well said!

[@xelanoxin]

Everyone looking for a pariah that they can follow and feel like they are part of a movement. Like a cult of personalities

[@avigailpekelman8239]

Yes, but as long as this dictatorship of the bourgeoisie exists there is not true equality

[@finnbarm]

Everyone needs to be politically active. Local government should be made more powerful and more participative

[@AncientCreature-i2o]

@@finnbarm Local governments are plenty powerful. It's up to the citizens whether or not they choose to participate. All of the mechanics are already in place to allow that to happen. Government, whether local or national does not need more power, the institution has plenty of that. They need more accountability.

[@FarragutStCam]

I don't see one rationality of how breaking a half million$ of glass in Portland fits into what is said here. How does that work?

[@randyclutter7569]

It doesn't. They don't even realize they are the reason so many right wing groups are organizing now. They are the ones causing the violence that right wing groups want to protect themselves from. It's a vicious cycle and won't end well.

[@herps588]

@@randyclutter7569 it's almost as if.... all the censorship, harassment and arrogance (thinking only their side matters) from the left contributes to the radicalization of people to the far-right 😳

[@kwaynr1301]

@@randyclutter7569 wauw, what another great example of right wingers trying to flip the story. It's in the name, if there weren't any fascists how could there be anti-fascists? Care to explain your reasoning?

[@Cucker_Tarlson]

@@kwaynr1301 You realise calling yourself anti-fascist doesn’t automatically make you that, right? Antifa are literally fascists.

[@kwaynr1301]

@@Cucker_Tarlson 🤨 ok, sure, whatever. Thanks for your insight 🙄

[@YTJaimeJack]

me and my boys still playing ninjas at 20 years old

[@savagex466-qt1io]

Or the Empire from Star Wars. All black makes me think of the Harkonons from Dune movie lol

[@splinteredspace3469]

I used to know many in the Black Bloc during late 90s WTO protests and after that they spread everywhere. I was outtve HS but quickly realized a good percentage of these Antifa/ Crust Anarcho Punks are just trust fund kids with nothing to do. I had to get a job so I fuckin left. And it wasn't just cuz of that. They really do think they are better than you and everyone.

[@rubencoolidge]

look how cute everyone is with their faces covered. such a strong and brave mentality

[@Saint696Anger]

@11:35 why are they jumping a wall when they can walk through the entrance?

[@johnnyapplesmith]

Because they have no brain cells

[@aidankittilstved4165]

because it looks cool, duh

[@gifyifhkhmcucyk6865]

The gate was small and crowded and they had to get over the wall fast to escape pursuing pigs.

[@gifyifhkhmcucyk6865]

@Lou Ferrier first off, what terrorism? Second, what does "dealt with accordingly" mean?

[@blakedurston]

Because it looks cool.

[@ericmaddox1896]

Socialism is embedded so deeply in the fabric of American life that most people don't even recognize it or know where it came from anymore. And that's no accident. We've been conditioned to believe that Socialism equals the brutality of Stalin and oppression under the USSR, when the most socialist labor unions in the US refused to follow the "party line" of the Soviets. And for those who point to the USSR, China (which ain't even communist), North Korea, Cuba, etc, as 'examples of why Socialism can't work'? Anarchists are also opposed to State Socialism for all the reasons exemplified by these cases. And this comes to the broader point... A lot of people here clearly have no idea what "Left" means. For starters, Liberals, Progressives, and Democrats aren't on the "left", we've just been brainwashed in the US to conceive of the political spectrum in a way that is completely a-historical. "The Left", while it does encompass its own spectrum, universally adheres to two basic principles; it is Socialist/Anti-Capitalist and it is pro-Worker/Labor/Union. Liberals, Progressives, and Democrats, by definition are on the Right. Why? Because all of these political groups are either outright Capitalist or think that you can reform Capitalism to make it more humane. To be a Leftist means accepting that the only way to escape the oppressive structures that are intrinsic to Capitalism is to completely overthrow the Capitalist order, and not just locally but globally, because all workers must be united in class solidarity, regardless of nationality, and because Capitalism will always work to interfere in other nations because it requires Imperialism to sustain itself. Separate but related, a lot of people here clearly don't seem to understand what Anarchism (or Libertarian Socialism) is, either. Nor do they seem to understand its relationship to Antifa. First of all, most of us in the US have been brainwashed to believe that Anarchism is synonymous with "chaos" and disorder. It truth, Anarchism is a Socialist political philosophy that has been around for about two centuries and has within itself many different competing ideas. And quite to the contrary of advocating for "chaos", Anarchism simply holds that coercion is wrong, that all states rule by coercion and violence, and therefore states are a barrier to freedom rather than its guarantor. Anarchism requires a high degree of organization (for example the principles of "mutual aid" and "self-organization"), but it opposes hierarchies, typically favoring either direct Democracy (instead of the corruption-prone Representative Democracy), or rule by unanimous consent. Anarchism is, again, a Socialist philosophy that is first and foremost non-coercive, anti-Statist, pro-union/labor, and anti-imperialist. It's also anti-war, except in cases of self defense, because all wars pit working class people against one another to serve the interest of an rich and corrupt elite. Antifa is not a club you can join or a political movement, or even an ideology. Antifa is simply an expression of Leftists self-organizing to defend themselves. To call it an ideology is to miss the point. The Left has numerous ideologies and Antifa is simply a shorthand way of saying 'groups of Leftists defending themselves and their communities'. "But they break things!" you say? Once you understand how Capitalism works you start to understand that we are all living under a constant state of violence; violence towards our privacy, towards our choices, towards our right to ask questions of our "leaders", towards our bodies, and for some groups even towards their existence. When the right is violent it's mostly expressed through people in uniform murdering poor people in the US and abroad. This expression of Right Wing/Capitalist/Statist violence is given the veneer of legitimacy because its agents wear flags and badges, and 'because we can control them with our votes' (you're kidding yourself if you think your votes have any impact on the Military Industrial Complex). "Far Right" groups are actually nothing compared to the violence of the state, but we are socially conditioned to see "radical" groups as the problem, instead of simply being the inevitable expressions of the inherently racist and violent State. In other words, the Capitalist State (and some would argue all states) is an inherently right wing entity. However when working people get together to peaceably assemble and demand their rights they are routinely ignored, beaten, or murdered by the state. When working people are oppressed and pushed far enough to where they finally fight back against the state, using a very limited number of the same tools that white supremacists and state forces use to oppress them, then they are called "terrorists", "traitors", and "Socialists". Never mind that you can thank American Anarchists and Socialists for bringing you child labor laws, workplace safety regulations, the 40 hour work week, holidays, Social Security, and pretty much every protection for working class people in modern US history since the late 1800's. Look up the "Haymarket Affair", Eugene Debs, and the Industrial Workers of the World. Look up the "First Red Scare", where the US Government and oligarchs effectively teamed up to villainize and crush Socialism in the US, after American Socialists peacefully protested against the US draft in World War One. Why? Because a threat to the business of war (a primary business engine of Capitalism) could not be allowed to take root in American society. And it's no coincidence that Martin Luther King Jr. was murdered decades later (almost certainly by J. Edgar Hoover's FBI after their endless harassment) when he expanded his focus from Civil Rights for the black community to include economic justice for poor people and opposition to the Vietnam War. Again, King was an open critic of Capitalism and a Democratic Socialist, something we never hear in school and for reasons that should now be all too clear.

[@epistemological]

Very well said

[@jaytsecan]

Thank you so much for your comment! I learnt quite a bit from reading it.

[@johnrode43]

Yap

[@RealFMP-FMG]

Aight, All we need now is a centrist militia, and things will be pretty balanced

[@aidanpower7115]

YEA BABY YEAAAAAAA

[@TheOpinionatedElectrician]

Lets goooo!

[@moomoo1984]

They exist, but they can’t really find anything to bother assembling over. Everything is pretty much okay to them.

[@TheOpinionatedElectrician]

​@@moomoo1984 Make everything great again.

[@discipleofdagon8195]

The guardians of the grill

[@Sinxytlol3]

how republicans image college campus kids

[@AlcoholicAlbert]

My unemployed friend on a Wednesday:

[@GraemeSmith-kd5eb]

Supports trump?

[@DunkYTP]

Tbh all these far left guys are most likely unemployed. They don't believe in work. Just lazing about, getting handouts, complaining and virtue signalling

[@elinewman9297]

​@@GraemeSmith-kd5eb cry more 😂

[@GraemeSmith-kd5eb]

@@elinewman9297 I'm laughing 🤣. Trumpanzee.🤣

[@der-Dritte]

​@GraemeSmith-kd5eb atleast I don't burn down block bc "facist"

[@roacht5747]

I almost died when he said “comrades”

[@mimikyu__-]

She*

[@roacht5747]

@@mimikyu__- My mistake, thanks for the correction

[@mahanramezani3895]

I'm gonna be honest if she* did not say she* was trans i wouldn't noticed

[@nayrtnartsipacify]

Cumrags

[@tariqnasneed3857]

@@mimikyu__- He

[@redhussar1436]

"An anarcho-communist"

[@sth5033]

@@bathory3434 isn't a tankie literally the opposite of an anarcho-communist? leftist, but statist.

[@bathory3434]

@@sth5033 yes, you are right i misspoke

[@jmilber]

Anarcho communists can live on a commune in the USA voluntarily. If membership into anarcho communism is not voluntary, and people demand you give up property/product of your labor, than the people have become the state who enforce that.

[@stephenellis8472]

I didn't vote for them.

[@mclovin9165]

Yeah? Communism without the 'Anarcho' is a stateless classless moneyless society. Are you the type of guy who thinks politics is binary?

[@dailytriggered]

I wanna interview the people at these protest and see if they even know what the definition of fascism is.

[@dailytriggered]

Side note you shouldn’t be allowed to vote unless you understand basic us history. Those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it. And these Antifa protest look a lot like the beer hall putsch.

[@hugohugo2832]

Or if any of these anti racism warriors are actually black!

[@patrickdunn7804]

I wanna see if you know

[@der-Dritte]

​@@patrickdunn7804I am sure you and the antifa dont

[@Chris-TMH]

That thumbnail though... Like bro just wear a bandana 😂 looking out of the hoodie like 👁️👃⬛

[@reasoningbrute903]

the words ''facsists'' and ''nazis' are being thrown around so much that they lost all their meaning

[@hexon6956]

no, its just that a violent attempt at a coup in the worlds greatest superpower is a fascist thing to do.

[@lordfarquaad380]

they really are talking about fascists and nazis though. the proud boys are a real group of them and they’re everywhere.

[@reasoningbrute903]

@@lordfarquaad380 🤦🏻‍♂

[@MK_ULTRA420]

@@lordfarquaad380 🤡

[@lordfarquaad380]

@@reasoningbrute903 I genuinely have no idea why you’re slapping your forehead. Are they not neonazis? Like there are clips of the exact type of people they are talking about in the video 😭

[@BCOwings]

This isn't one sided at all....

[@Draftspike]

Papa John's Pizza it is

[@__-vu3bv]

Yeah that's the point they're interviewing people from the hard-left but what do you think they could have done to make it less one sided

[@jackfirmin5814]

yeah I mean, when it comes to fascism there really is only one side to be on. Greetings from Germany btw

[@__-vu3bv]

@@jackfirmin5814 truuu

[@kylechetram915]

There is only one side, and they're on the right one. Nazi's should be treated with extreme prejudice and no tolerance, as our forefathers did during WW2, killed without mercy. The only good Nazi is a dead one. Let them fight the good fight.

[@Vampira_robin]

These people don't even know what Communism is

[@gunterdapenguin5896]

The sad irony of extreme movements like these is that they enable the other side to act up as well, thereby increasing the number of "opponents" on the other side, and so this here will only create more divide and far right extremists

[@egwagjsd]

Somewhat, yes. But they also do a lot to personally affect the lives of nazis, like infiltrating groups to get people to lose their jobs and such. I don’t support the group but they have done some good to battle nazis and other white supremacists/nationalists.

[@gunterdapenguin5896]

@@egwagjsd they really have not, they've tried to ruin people's lives whom they deem a nazi, but punching a conservative reporter or standing in the way of a trump rally is not fighting nazis, that's just close mindedness people trying to silence people they disagree with through intimidation and violence, which ironically the nazis did themselves. I'm not a republican, but what they're doing really isn't helping, why aren't they out there in the woods or small towns where actual nazis meet? It's not too hard to find them, so why don't they do something about that instead of dividing the country even more by claiming 80 million people are nazis? I hate nazism as much as I hate communism, but I think all opinions should be allowed, and creating violence over what other people believe is medieval and stupid.

[@sagedraws1000]

I actually sort of agree, although I think there is a time and place for riots. I just don’t think antics is evil for being rightfully disdainful towards fascism.

[@gunterdapenguin5896]

@Sage Draws do they actually fight fascism or is it just something they say? Rather, is someone a fascist because they said so? That's the problem fascism is such a microscopic problem today, almost no one nowhere are fascists, but a just as dangerous movement does have a lot of followers, far left extremism, I'm more afraid of that than far right extremism because many more people think positively or neutral about left wing extremism and so I can see it get a lot further than fascism today, there isn't the same stigma/taboo on that as there is on fascism even though it has killed more people and ruined the lives of many times more people. But the main point is, terror in a self described good course is still terror, they aren't officially fighting fascists just like antifa isn't actually fighting real neo nazis, they label someone a fascist or nazi and they commit violence towards them while hurting everyone and everything in their way (not defending fascism here, they did the same on a larger scale), so I can't see how their actions are justified

[@sagedraws1000]

@@gunterdapenguin5896 They seem to be targeting people who are on nazi forums online, or people that encourage or identify with fascist ideology. Richard spencer is definitely a white nationalist. I’m not saying they haven’t attacked any innocent people, but neo-nazis are far from a small problem.

[@Azegzaw1]

" anti fascism dates back to fascism " the difference between 20th century anti fascists and these things what ever they are is that the first used to actually fight fascism

[@markm2092]

Anyone who things Fascism is dead is delusional.

[@bourbon4033]

The ones who'd fight facists were the communists, liberals and conservatives just got along the way when facists passed into lol

[@Azegzaw1]

@@bourbon4033 tell me you know nothing about history without telling me you know nothing about history

[@bourbon4033]

@@Azegzaw1 nah I do know it, look for what happened when nazis took power in 1933 in germany, same thing with Italy and many places

[@Azegzaw1]

@@bourbon4033 yeah these were anti fascist movements in italy and germany, not necessarily commies, plus i'd argue that the first to actually fight fascists were the czechs and poles who actually faught wars against them, the soviets only joining in 1941

[@unclesam7886]

and people trust these people to report on what accounts as Alt-right?

[@hamishfatcat3385]

Can we trust you?

[@unclesam7886]

@@hamishfatcat3385 what?

[@GunnarWyattKelley]

@@hamishfatcat3385 What?

[@unclesam7886]

@@borizzle1 you gonna call him a fash? lmao

[@pfblack]

it would be interesting to follow up with the interviewees