The Blackwater Massacre In RDR2...

[@totallynotsc.]

i really want rdr3 to be another prequel with the last mission as the blackwater massacre

[@trippyshrimp8598]

That would be awesome we could see all the stuff the gang does in new austin and further west too

[@rhysw08]

Supposed to show Arthur Morgan Dutch all them younger a lot younger

[@bonk5664]

Dave or whatever his name was at the start should be the protagonist on rdr3

[@Beginningmedel6]

Honestly that would be a sick stand alone, however I’ve been waiting for a follow up on jack for too long lol

[@Bigman-fh1fz]

@@bonk5664 nah his death was boring. Play as a younger Arthur

[@someonebutodd]

$150,000 in 1899 is about $5,450,000 today. No wonder they wanted it so bad

[@danger-s-r]

As if $150,000 wouldn’t still be a good score 100 years later

[@Adam.smith47]

Its gotta be more than that bro

[@fall_comic6985]

​@@danger-s-ryeah but 150k today wouldn't be the biggest heist ever. Most jewelry stores have more than 150k

[@zxck5]

@@fall_comic6985… noted …

[@fellerman5020]

@@fall_comic6985I would know from payday, I’m basically a professional you know

[@tristenmccolley-tb1zu]

This case still haunts me to this day

[@mrdefault582productions7]

What’s so scary about it you could’ve said all the Murders that Lowry did

[@ballsbruh1565]

acting like you were there lmfao

[@gsaucegaming6635]

How did this black water NPC get out of the game

[@bliss5268]

Bro gotta get back to valentine

[@soapy222]

@@gsaucegaming6635☠️

[@Vukantiq]

Ah yes, the Van Der Linda gang Edit: It looks like i have provoken a WAR

[@FredKruger809]

Took my comment

[@nicoleozmun4071]

@@FredKruger809 jealous

[@huh._]

Honestly fits because it makes Dutch sound less known and not many facts are out there about him than he thought there was when he was running things

[@tcog9300]

That's how many pronounce that name irl

[@WendiGonerLH]

Well, in dutch and other germanic languages you actually do pronounce the E at the end, and it sounds like a soft a

[@Enfix2509]

Ppl are forgetting that Arthur isn’t in the ferry job. If you looked at the beginning of RDR2 journal, there some lines like “For once, I am not involved in the job (the ferry job). Hosea and I are too taken up with our business.” Also: “Plan is for them to carry the job (the ferry job), then flee into the wilderness out the west. The next day, Hosea and I carry out the scam job and join them.” In chapter 1 RDR2, there is also some lines by Arthur and Javier like: “So, you were there, Javier. What happened on that boat?” “By the time you boys showed up from the other side of the town (blackwater).” [Javier’s line]

[@whitezombie10]

I think that while there was the robbery at the ferry Hosea and Arthur were doing the scam and then once the pinkertons attacked the ferry Arthur and Hosea’s cover was blown so they met with the others in the middle of the city and escaped together. All while leaving hundreds of dead law enforcers in all of the town

[@Philipp3022]

There is another line where Hosea said that they should have skipped Micah's ferry job and just should have done the "safe insurance scam" - apparently Hosea and Arthur wanted to scam the Blackwater bank with fake insurance documents and then escape fast without any noise - while Dutch got convinced by Micah that the ferry holds more money and they ended up trying to do both heists which didnt worked out that way.

[@S.T.A.L.K.E.R914]

God, you mislead 501 people. He was involved... javier said "By the time you showed up from the other side of town..." how do you think arthur's mount, Boadcia was killed?

[@bharatvarshaball4000]

Back when Dutch was truly a Chad

[@sydssolanumsamsys]

back when dutch was a Linda

[@Kexetey]

Yes, Shooting a defenseless woman makes you a chad.

[@Kling195]

What the hell is a Chad???

[@Kexetey]

@@Kling195 Bro been sleepin under a rock

[@Kling195]

@@Kexetey No I’m twenty seven years old. I don’t know why you idiots insist on using words that make no sense.

[@CDNBreadDogs]

When you tell the tale like this it sounds like a real historical event and Dutch and his gang sound like villains

[@CheeseAndCrackers_]

They are villains, from the pov of the civilians and Pinkertons, they’re all mass murderers and thieves

[@alexandermartinez7930]

They technically are

[@robertreed2824]

Its like the game MGS5, you're not the good guy, you never were but you play the game from their perspective which warps the reality of it all, but when you really look at it... for alot of what happened too the gang... they had it coming.

[@CharlieAndHerWorld]

They kinda are

[@rumangumja7526]

Outlaws for life

[@Astartes-6969]

I like to think that John got wounded by Landon, which would be ironic since they meet in 1911.

[@Jonathan_8052]

I was thinking the same thing, Landon was credited as a hero for his involvement so I’m assuming he must have shot Davey/John and maybe helped bring in Mac

[@Astartes-6969]

@@Jonathan_8052 That'd be awesomely ironic.

[@brosyain4114]

@@Jonathan_8052 0

[@DngrDan]

@@Jonathan_8052 I didn't even catch he was there, let alone the hero. Landon shooting Davey should be canon.

[@carlinytc7431]

I have always believed this even before rdr2 came out

[@acayouialnasp]

It was recovered by micah and dutch but john took it and split the money with sadie and charles

[@Kexetey]

Yes, but this is being told from a story viewpoint

[@xdCrispy-Crisss]

Recovered by Authorities and Police not Thieves.

[@here9087]

You get the money after you go through the credits and stuff, I'm sure the money is about 3k because it's split.

[@PR6_Pigeon]

@@here9087 20k*

[@SanchezThaMexican]

It wasn't recovered they already had it stashed 😂

[@Fluctlight]

$150,000??!! No wonder most of the gang wanted to go back for the money 😂

[@omegawimptronic6403]

they couldve sent sadie cause she wasnt there during the massacre.

[@kaidenhall2718]

@@omegawimptronic6403 with trelawny Abigail and Kieran

[@sabocharge]

​@@kaidenhall2718yeah but they didn't fully trust them

[@kaidenhall2718]

@@sabocharge and rightfully so clearly

[@fall_comic6985]

​​@@sabochargehat about trelawny tho? Dutch trusted him so much that he was allowed to leave and come back without consequences

[@keithanchase]

Imagine telling this story in history class, pretend its real for a easy A+ 😂

[@ClaytonTheCracker]

Dude the history teacher would be like" nah nigga i played that shit too, didnt happen"

[@countryballs394]

You gave me an idea

[@jellykumar9195]

Van der lindehhh gang

[@milkman4640]

Technically that's how you say it in dutch with some slight differences, but tbh Van de Linde with a silent E at the end sounds way better.

[@Thatonewhite_guy]

Translate it and u get Van der lindehhh time 💀

[@milkman4640]

@jamol So, do you got copyright or something, who you calling kid for bruh💀

[@Matt-ee9zc]

​@@milkman4640 if that's your reasoning it would be closer to "fun der linduh"

[@raidonshin]

Imagine a red dead 3 following another character in the gang, the final mission being the blackwater massacre. The character you play as dies, and you see the gang escape- leading right into red dead 2. We know a few gang members died, so it would work

[@provoked-_-]

one of the calendar boys, a viewpoint from mac calendar would be great, we already know what’s happened to him.

[@BisexualPlagueDoctor]

@@provoked-_-and he died in such a protagonistic way

[@Zzz-dv8om]

@@BisexualPlagueDoctor how did he die?

[@CheeseAndCrackers_]

@@Zzz-dv8om he was captured by Pinkertons during the Blackwater massacre and they killed him

[@BisexualPlagueDoctor]

@@CheeseAndCrackers_ he wasn’t captured, he was badly shot up, collapsed, got found, and got shot in the face (or heart who fucking knows)

[@yusefabdelmottaleb2176]

a red dead documentary would be so cool

[@M4zamitla]

I recommend Fizhy if your looking for something similar

[@dawsonhydex6550]

$150,000 has purchasing power now a days at $5,000,000

[@RangerR4078]

Thanks for the info Joshua Graham!

[@Kexetey]

Damn it sounds like him to.

[@dcritelli11]

lol

[@andygomez4206]

That sounds nothing like Joshua Graham

[@rand0mmand0]

It doesn't even sound like him

[@hellforall]

he has been baptized twice

[@chasejones6164]

Sounds like an actual documentary

[@LandonMartien]

They should’ve made it so John would have a nightmare in the epilogue of the black water heist where we got to play as him during the massacre

[@-carpet-]

This, rockstar should do this for dlc, its a much better idea than making a whole game for it like people suggest

[@Kira-xk2rf]

@@-carpet-People suggest a game that cover the beginnings and the rise of the van der linde gang till the blackwater massacre and that’s hours of content , impossible for a dlc. But if it’s only the massacre then yeah i agree

[@-carpet-]

@@Kira-xk2rf the problem with a game like that is that it would be nothing like rdr2 or rdr1. The game cant have a single setting because that story would show events over the course of 20 years and the gang would be traveling around the country. So instead of a large open world game like rdr2 where you can go to any part at any moment you’d have closed off maps for every different year the story decides to show. And once you finish the story the game would just end, there would be no epilogue or post game cause rdr2 starts immediately after black water. The game would also have 0 stakes because u already know the entire gang and know that they won’t die in this game. And they can’t make make a story about redemption if they’re gonna end it with the main characters shooting up an entire town for money.

[@Kira-xk2rf]

@@-carpet- Yeah i share the same thoughts. But anyway if a RDR3 ever comes out , it’s either gonna be this ( they’ll find a way for the epilogue and the redemption aspect surely) or a game with brand new characters set in the wild west golden era with a cameo with teen Hosea in a mission or Dutch for fan service.

[@adolfogarzachaires394]

This was the moment The Van der Linde gang sealed their fate forever

[@teggy1734]

Meanwhile the 3 protagonists of gta5 casually killing the entire lspd every months without anyone giving a fck

[@JesusJoseFernandezLeMen]

Thats why Rdr2 is more realistic

[@THEPISSPALADIN]

Dutch Van Der Linda is quite a charismatic fellow if I do say so myself.

[@cyberpunk5490]

150k in 1899 is nearly 5.5 million today. Thats a lot of damn money

[@nguyendat818]

Big score

[@johnwickspencil6180]

have some goddamn faith

[@nas1320]

It's such a shame that R* cut most of the content for Arthur's in New Austin and Blackwater. It could be an amazing Prologue chapter for the gang before they fleeing to Colter. The same thing that they did with Guarma, it supposed to be longer but because the game already on deadline when they release the trailer, they just decided to cut most the part of the game.

[@BlackSago_]

“The saddest thing about betrayal is that it never comes from your enemies, it comes from those you trust the most.” - Literally the plot of RDR1

[@infinitetoxic]

we need a dlc of the past

[@leronelcock5765]

Exactly

[@nobody-yk2hu]

I want a Landon rickets dlc and have the final mission in black water during the massacre

[@aussie_Dazai]

This actually sounds like a history class

[@alejandromoore7158]

We need the Blackwater Massacre DLC

[@TooillfromLumbagLUMBAGO]

Bro said from a history’s perspective 💯

[@ProvenMaster851]

In the events of rdr3 ever happening with the blackwater massacre Mac calendar would need to to be the protagonist. Davey's death would not be fitting as a protagonist death leading into rdr2. The death of Arthur and john worked very well as they're deaths weren't already scripted from a different game. With Mac as a protagonist we can have a new character, with a new personality, and a new character arc before his death in blackwater. This gives ®rockstar more wiggle room for original ideas. As much as I love Arthur and john we've already seen them and their character arcs before. Playing Arthur or john in the blackwater massacre they would have no growth considering they were still grunts of dutch at that point.

[@AbdulAziz-im2em]

I think Mac doesn't even need to die. His ending can also be honor and (a new concept in RDR) a few choices dependent. Low honor Mac gets captured and executed, while high honor Mac too gets captured but not executed and gets nursed back to health by some new character.

[@whiteman6425]

They definitely weren’t grunts this was in 1899 they both joined two decades ago

[@no7995]

Doesn't the pinkerton agents ADMIT to killing Mac first time you run into them... that it was a "mercy killing"... While i would mind seeing another prequal that leads up to the heist we're all familiar with the story of.... I almost wanna see one with Sadie or Jack as the main character... but part of me doesn't... cause I don't wanna see those characters die.... I can't watch little jack grow up and get done dirty

[@That-Will-Do-It]

This would be such a waste of a Red Dead title that we'd have to wait until like 2033 to even play. Believe me, RDR1 and 2 are my favorite games of all time, but its time for Red Dead 3. If not, at least go all the way back to when Arthur first meets Dutch and forms the gang complete with new characters, locations, and storyline.

[@Aquacav]

I completely agree with this bro

[@bigdaddysbaked]

Finally a channel with some morals 💪 not some Dutch rider

[@petru8845]

Van Derline the gang💀

[@boldbearings]

"Dutch killed a girl..." "That ain't like him...."

[@mox5211]

Landon rickets was there?

[@legobobafett5045]

Yup

[@Jew-lee-in]

@@legobobafett5045 no he wasn’t, was he? How?

[@brycencurley]

@@Jew-lee-in red dead one had newspapers that said Landon Rickets was involved. Rockstar could have silently took this out of the cannon or since Landon Rickets was somewhat close to black water maybe he helped Dutch during the heist whenever the bloodshed got serious, without John marston getting his name or remembering him

[@fearlesswaltz5643]

​@@brycencurley I thought Landon got shot during the heist

[@Vergil_motivated_]

@@brycencurley Waltuh no half measurements waltuh

[@STPD3VRT]

Whats song you used in this? I tried to shazam but it didnt work

[@sxrdo]

7 weeks and 3 days

[@STPD3VRT]

@@sxrdothx

[@masonmachell683]

Jesus it was so chaotic that even gang members who didn’t die were thought to be dead(such as Micah unless that was a newspaper from after you complete the story of rdr2)

[@BlackLung_Morgan1]

Rdr3 should be the rise of the gang

[@ox2215]

What was Landon rickrets doing their?

[@T3R4BYTE_CERTIFIEDROBLOXPRO]

Love this video

[@albundy9904]

Dutch: We need more money Arthur Arthur: All that running around and this whole time he had it all along

[@EST.NINETYSIXX]

Micah being "locked" up in Strawberry was just a setup for Arthur. We practically sh** up a whole town and for that rat just to betray us in the end of the mess smh.

[@guadrencho]

I cant wait to rdr3 to be another prequel that starts with mac with our protagonist and end in that mission

[@senshiserenity7088]

No

[@SirSquittles]

It hurts my soul that we'll probably never see rdr3. But, in some ways, the story they crafted is already awesome enough.

[@Jobe-13]

I wish we could witness it in a Rdr2 spinoff or something

[@user-hc2jd7cm5x]

If this was an actual documentary I would watch it

[@jasoncomingfoyou]

Yes the van der linda gang

[@Broxclone432]

Im not dead That fall fixed my back posture

[@Codname_the_viper]

Damn dutch, was that your plan. Also fuck your new gang

[@winward9474]

Edits deserve credit and gang deserves a bang

[@Saymyname-nm3dc]

Bro i never knew that Landon Rickets was involved in the blackwater massacre,despite me being a hard rdr fan,and me knowing absolutely everything about the massacre,i was pretty surprised by that fact

[@pronintendo1984]

And the Saint Denis bank heist is never mentioned again, which by Bill's account was much worse than Blackwater, and took place in an even more populated area, a literal city.

[@romilrh]

I love RDR2 but literally every mission you do is a massacre, you kill an entire police force every robbery 😂

[@jessesdomain444]

I wonder if the callendar brothers met their demise because of Landon ricketts

[@kaishaaproctor9098]

told the story in the goatest way there is

[@JDUBMAX]

dutch wasn’t truly a monster at heart. in rd2 he had a rat in his ear the entire time and realized it after it was too late. after that he was just lost and broken. in a matter of 3 years (that’s my guess) he lost his gf, hosea, and arthur. after he lost annabelle he was confused and mad. after he lost hosea micah knew this was the perfect chance to manipulate dutch and took control. after he lost arthur, he was lost once and for all.

[@Lancelot1995]

If Landon Ricketts really had a hand in the ongoings of the Van der Linde gang John would’ve recognized him and/or brought up the Blackwater incident when he met Landon in Mexico

[@eight10aaronn]

Yes… the transcript from the RDR2 wiki

[@ThaWrongFong2050]

Dutch committed suicide he wasn’t killed. 😂🤦🏽‍♂️

[@user-hx6gs9rq7u]

The public wouldn’t know that

[@westley2620]

This gave me chills

[@pedroroque829]

124 years ago

[@countryballs394]

This event still creeps me out , i was there and had to run off blackwater

[@cheeksdestroyer10000]

Imagine an alternate universe where the van Der lin gang actually existed

[@jospehcahill7320]

This sounds like it’s from a documentary. Really well done.

[@Tractorguy49]

Anyone else find it funny how the gang runs from a group called the PDA?

[@userkeyseans]

that sketch of Micah is so menacing

[@AmericanCoop92512]

Dutch and Micah got the money, it is the money you get once you complete the last mission of the epilogue and the game American Venom

[@leemckenna8214]

The Van der LINDA gang 😂😂

[@bRuHIsHere.]

Don't call Dutch a monster until you play rdr1...

[@jeremyvazquez1099]

I really like how this is done in like a a irl documentary style

[@evildestroyer6129]

A really cool idea for rdr3 game to me would be a new game, this time through the point of view of Micah and we see the events that make him how he is, then we see him meeting the game and it would end at Colter, maybe the prologue would be the years after Arthur's death to his

[@iconoclast_rain]

i love how is shows arthur there when he didn’t even take part 😂

[@gabedoyle7662]

It would be cool if there was a Dlc of the robbery in black water in rdr2

[@Sebastian_Astudillo]

Why is the missile guidance system talking about the blackwater masacre?

[@luckymint3]

I want rdr3 to have the Blackwater massacre as the final mission, and maybe have Dutch as the MC for the game, see how he meets Hosea and Arthur and John and finally, at the end, play as him shooting the girl and all the police and agents and fleeing in a bloody massacre

[@WalkingDread]

Landon Ricketts is a W

[@BlackLvng]

I always find it funny how Arthur is wanted for a crime he didn’t even participate in😭

[@user-kt7wm7fm2n]

Saint Denis robbery was even bigger even Javier says “it’s even worse then black water”

[@byEmiBF29]

He was talking about the police and the pinkertons, not about the money, because they were in a bigger town they were surrounded

[@NstySnper]

They shouldve had the blackwater heist as the first mission in rdr2, like how they had that north yankton bank robbery as the first mission in gta 5

[@DrFreedom76]

Imagine playing RDR3 as Landon Ricketts, tracking the gang and leading up to the robbery

[@rafaelchavez1080]

Should of done a DLC for that part

[@aydinogansoy1222]

You need that planet earth voice of that one guy.

[@Jimmilton.0]

"Ver der linda gang" 🗿

[@Bert3HD]

Would love it if rockstar made a red dead redemption for Sadie, she certainly is a badass!👌🏼😂

[@samuelgeaney7556]

Nah she doesn't deserve her own solo game. Her story has been told.

[@thebathroom6327]

"She was a girl Dutch van der Linde shot in the head on that raid on the ferry a few years back. Pretty girl... until her eye was hanging out by a tendon, and her brain was plastered over a wall."

[@bahadur116minecraftgaming9]

I love Dutch van der linde. He is exactly like me

[@ballsbruh1565]

You’re a murdering criminal leading a gang often partaking in heists 120 years ago?

[@omegawimptronic6403]

you narcissist?

[@ChinasArmy]

I think seeing Landon Ricketts POV on this would be an awesome DLC or short story

[@EndurableWither]

Rdr3 being when they travel all throughout America, as it's been said in side missions that Arthur has passed through certain states a few times, and the Blackwater massacre being the final mission

[@weeterry]

If they would make this a mission in rdr3 it would be the first mission and it would say __years earlier , it can't be the last mission because their would be an open world and the gang fled to colter straight after the hiest

[@Kraken1Kid]

He was killed 12 years after the robbery. If he just stayed low. And just lifed on like normal civilian. He migjtve lifed longer.

[@jay_soldier14]

Bro don't don't violate my boy Dutch like that he's one of my second favorite

[@B33.r0b]

The young female Dutch kills at the massacre is to prove Dutch showed his true colours all along he was as in insane in rd1 as he does the same in rd1 at black water coincidence I think not rd2 he kills innocent women rd1 he does the same it’s a call back to rd1 to say he’s insane just like he was in both games he’s a master manipulator (maybe)

[@Gbriel3391]

If RDR3 moves forward I don't mind but if it has a flashback mission letting you play as John or Arthur during the massacre would be more than enough for me

[@youreverydayweirdo6154]

This made me think, we hear documentaries that sound just like this, but we never truly know the story behind any of then

[@michaelbeach7988]

Prequel where we get to play as Landon Ricketts or Mac with the last mission being the Blackwater Massacre

[@Mandalorian_John.]

Its long ago when it came out I remember how much fun i had living in the Nature or finding a Meteorite or a opd Viking grave

[@joshuaspruett]

The funny thing is that the Blackwater Massacre has got nothing on some of the crap you do as in the game. I’m the first 2 chapters alone you basically wipe out all of Strawberry and Valentine.

[@beethechamp6277]

I wish we got to see the event maybe playing as John. The fact it's titled "The Blackwater Massacre" really solidifies the severity of the event. Even Ricketts was involved somehow.

[@SnipeDGod]

The strange man never forgot huh

[@godofbears4130]

Van Der Linda Gang sounds like a couple of housewives who'd rob the 7/11

[@wikkiddeathlord7372]

I find it funny, In RDR1 John Marston was labeled as the best protagonist then once RDR2 came out good ole Arthur Morgan came in and took John's place. I honestly think that they are both number 1. Glad to have been able to play as them both in rdr2. Both their deaths hit hard. I've never gotten to play Red Dead Revolver but I love this series

[@RodneeGirthshaft]

Good ol Van Derlinda and his gang of rough and tumble hooligans

[@BrainlezDope]

They really need to put this in the next game or a stand alone dlc. I really hoped we’d get a glimpse of what the Black Water Massacre looked like.