The BMW C1 Story

Cities continue to jam up with more and more traffic, with many city centres taxing cars or banning them all together. Car manufacturers have produced different types of small city cars that have lower emissions and can fit into tight parking spots, and small EVs can get around some of those restrictions cities have imposed on cars. BMW, who’s been making motorcycles since 1920, decided to take a different tack. They proposed a motorcycle that offered protection against the elements while the rider, or should that be a driver?, didn’t need to wear a crash helmet. Just how did they persuade governments that this was safe, and what became of BMW’s experiment into urban commuting vehicles?
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[@autoeclectic8808]

'Sales were *slow*, and only 7 were made in the initial run.' Now that's what I call slow.

[@stevezodiac491]

I bought a brand new one, a black executive and used it to commute, it was absolutely magical. I got to work without any delays ever and never got wet. The bike did exactly what it was meant to do but the world was not ready for it. People saw it and laughed and when at work it was dubbed " the pope mobile " by my colleagues. I put up with the ridicule for a few years but in the end it took it's toll and I sold it. I carried on cycling to work through the traffic to similar effect and success but regretted getting rid of my C1 every time it was soaking wet weather.

[@KurisuDE]

Greetings from Germany, many of those Police C1s are still in service today.

[@G58]

Rotax engine!

[@hoonaticbloggs5402]

Poor mechanics

[@ericgeorge5483]

I couldn't even imagine they would catch a criminal who ran off lol.

[@louisbeerreviews8964]

@@hoonaticbloggs5402 no

[@stuartgreenshields5591]

@@G58 those rotax engines were truly terrible. I don't know anyone who didn't burn the valves out.

[@walthefl]

The Renault twizzy can also be seen as a successor of those scooters with a roof...

[@Nooziterp1]

That's what I thought. And the Twizzy is a lot more appealing.

[@TheAllAroundMan]

Wasn't there a racing version with KERS as well?

[@bobwebb1348]

You mean the Twizy? It's not a bike though.

[@Nooziterp1]

@@bobwebb1348 I thought I had got the spelling wrong. True, it isn't a bike, but a lot more car-like so more appealing.

[@pnblondon1087]

Not so. It's still too wide to get through traffic and it doesn't LEAN like a two-wheeler.

[@theseasonedracer2435]

BMW's Design was Given 4 Wheels by Renault and we got the Twizy

[@03timdol]

My first thought too

[@theseasonedracer2435]

@@03timdol Maybe we will get a Renault Twizy Short Story

[@03timdol]

@@theseasonedracer2435 Would be interesting to hear the back story of how it came about. Unusual for something so wacky to make it into production

[@AlexToma]

Exactly what I thought

[@jochenstacker7448]

I'm always intrigued by the Twizy, but every time I crunch the numbers, it's just not worth it.

[@sqd8r]

I wanted this then and would love one now. As a lifetime bike rider I really wanted this scooter. Love motorcycles and love scooters also.

[@warrenny]

same here. Love motorcycles and scooters both

[@hoonaticbloggs5402]

Save yourself the pain. They are horrible

[@SugoDiGatto]

If you try one, it's gonna be terrifying! My father rode bikes for 30 years, and yet, when he tried my C1, he looked like a toddler on a bike without training wheels! Imagine riding your bike but remove the ability of your torso to move around and lean. You have to countersteer lots and lots. Also place a basket of bricks on top of your head. I had never ridden a bike before, and I bought the C1 a couple years ago without even trying it. There aren't any other options available so it's either this thing I loved since I was a child, or nothing. I was scared pale of how uncontrollable and heavy it felt, and I fell over 5 minutes after purchasing it, and again the next time I rode... both times while parking it, lol, it's so heavy and I'm a weakling. It's so unintuitive to steer right to go left, I kept going straight at turns and invading the oncoming lane, man it was an adventure to bring it home. I quickly got used to it, though; my thigh muscles doubled in mass to keep it upright when still. I can't compare it to any kind of two wheeled vehicle as this is the first thing I rode after a bicycle, but I can tell you I love it and I can't wait to ride it around! Offroading and bouncing all over is especially fun!

[@emileterueda]

@@SugoDiGatto I share almost everything that you wrote. It's different like a moto because with c1 you have to use your back to move the up of the moto, but when you have some km you can do almost everything, and overall dry and safe

[@neiracorominas]

I’m selling mine. Make an offer ;)

[@mitduschzentrale]

I still have mine. Basically an excellent solution for getting around in the city. The topcase was huge, you could carry a water crate in it. Without the topcase mounted a codriver was allowed to sit there wearing a helmet. No need to point out how stupid that was looking. Because of the high center of gravity it could become tricky to maneuver it slowly. The big problem selling it was that BMW motorcycle dealers didn't want it because their arrogant customers immediately hated it and BMW car dealers didn't want it because they had no clue, only knew their 4-wheeled vehicles. Also having it serviced at BMW was as expensive as a VW Golf. And that rotex engine had timing chain problems just like todays VWs (lengthening).

[@SirNarax]

I must ask how this compares to just having decent water-proofs on a normal scooter/motorcycle?

[@Ellinillard]

@@SirNarax 10xbetter. Better vision (windshield wipers), better protection, but most importantly, 1000 better safety. No fatalities over 15 year period.

[@SirNarax]

@@Ellinillard I have become aware since seeing this video that there is a considerably safety advantage to enclosed bikes like this. But I was more referring to it as a cost effective measure. These are pretty expensive. Effective yes but expensive. Pros and cons. I have become tempted by them from time to time but cost and availability is poor here.

[@Ellinillard]

@@SirNarax right : at launch it sold for nearly 5000€ : despite BMW brand name, far too expensive, and the engine wasn’t a BMW. Rotax has nothing to be ashamed of, it is a very popular manufacturer of light airplanes engines along with Lycomjng, but not a prestigious name in car and bikes engines. Used ones still sell in France fit 6-7000€ ! Demonstrates how loyal users are, they-y’ re having spare parts tooled specially since bmw does not supply spare parts since 2015.

[@michaelbmw1931]

I want mc with roof 2 pers

[@harryboi6441]

I own one. The steering is wierd but it’s like an S class on two wheels! I love it.

[@hoedenbesteller]

Oh yes, I drove one of these (C200 business edition) for about 2 years. Weird, cluncky, geeky, top weight. Fell over 1 time, if it went there was no stopping it. The engine was really underpowered. Paris was one of those cities where you could/can see them very often.

[@jetfowl]

I saw a good number of them in Seoul, South Korea back in 2002-2004. Specially around Itaewon.

[@SugoDiGatto]

True, it's so heavy if it tilts a bit too much when still, one leg isn't enough to keep it up. I keep reading that it's underpowered, I own the 125cc version and it feels on par with many scooters I see ride around and have no issues to pull in front of cars. Maybe it comes from a motorcycle point of view? It's definitely much quicker and nimbler than my car!

[@emileterueda]

I had 200cc and now 125cc and the difference is only from 20 to 50km/h that you feel that 200 version is faster, but both have the same top speed 110km/h. 200 version have really a 175cc engine

[@travismaddox2866]

Saw them all over Frankfurt 2000-01

[@UpTheAnte1987]

I remember reports at the time saying people were coming to a stop and forgetting they had to put their feet down

[@stevezodiac491]

Can't believe that, I never did, in that respect it was exactly the same as a motorbike.

[@emileterueda]

Reports from people that never use c1

[@hoodagooboy5981]

@@stevezodiac491 I know someone that 'forgot' to put their feet down coming to a stop... on a scooter.

[@Baerchenization]

Natural selection at work...

[@wcg66]

I think a revised electric C1 would be attractive these days. However, price would need to be equally attractive which I don't think BMW would be able to achieve.

[@Gzeroy]

Would love to see a documentary about the Dutch made Carver One "bike-car".

[@lucian6395]

I love the carver, its just so bonkers

[@JohnHughes2002]

HubNut did a video about this.

[@nielstholenaar3146]

My uncle has design the carver. A video about I would be nice

[@karlosh9286]

The Carver is awesome.

[@pnblondon1087]

The Carver lives on in 2 forms. A somewhat watered-down moped version in Europe, and a much more exciting but as yet not in production electric version in California.

[@Ianzandvoort]

I use one to drive to work in Amsterdam center where there are almost no parking places. No motor clothing and no helmet on the highway. Bought it as new about 8 years ago in Germany with 5000 km, now 45000km. You need a specialist for maintaining it. When the weather is very bad I take the car. I always check the weather forecast for high winds.

[@DrLoverLover]

so a car AND one of these? How frugal of you

[@toineleuverink9905]

Great subject for yet another very professional documentary! You're making beautiful content...

[@carlgeorgtsigakis498]

I owned a C1 200 Executive. Loved the thing, especially after I was sideswiped by an old lady that pushed me through the intersection, After the C1 slid off the bonnet... I didn't get a scratch, no helmet either. Now if I had been riding my K1200RS.... :| The rear draft was rectified with a rear plexiglass sheild. Couple of reasons for failing; Car dealers didn't want to sell it, should have been sold via the Motorcycle dealer network to begin with, not after it had failed in the car dealerships... Too expensive, WAY to many options, colours and permutations made it expensive. I miss the thing, I should look for a good used one :)

[@svelobikes9049]

I love the C1, thanks for the video. I also think "Velomobiles" look like a promising concept: a 3 wheel enclosed recumbent bicycle with a high top speed due to the great aerodynamics.

[@maxflight777]

Your output is incredible! Such a range of vehicles, and no slip in accuracy.

[@Bentsi2002]

What a memory, I had one from work 15 years ago, it was so slow but extremely cool.

[@Ellinillard]

Been driving one for 20 years : saved my life on 2 occasions where I was rammed from the back by distracted car drivers, driving between 50-60kmh, I was standing still at a stoplight they hadn’t seen. With any regular bike/scooter, I’d be dead. Had to sell because of CO2regulations, still miss it, have yet to see anything comparable. You’re right about fiercely loyal fans : in the garage where I had mine maintained until 2021, most customers had owned their C1s over 15 years and many had clocked over 120 00 Kim’s on it, before having to change the engine. I the meantime I have to admit maintenance did’nt come cheap.

[@CiBi1968]

Had my C1 125 executive since 2009 & couldn't part with it ..... I found riding it fine & never had any issues with stability.

[@atomicsmith]

I remember visiting Paris in about 2001 and they were everywhere. As I remember, at least a third of the riders were female, which is quite a feat given the typical scooter/motorcycle ridership. I've never ridden one, but they always seemed like a good idea for dense urban areas with intense traffic.

[@williamfence566]

Love this channel. Informative and the outtakes add to the entertainment. Cheers

[@azuljoazulejosdeportugal9212]

Thanks so much for your works / ideas / presentation and friendliness

[@funkymunky]

With a box to store ya bits? My wife would like a word with you.

[@salihahzem]

Ah man, another great story from Big Car. As usual brings back memories when I sat down “inside” one them back 2000 Istanbul Auto Show, the bike was like it was from another planet! The C1 also had been featured one of the scenes of the 2001 movie Accidental Spy, starring Jackie Chan which coincidentally; was also set in Istanbul.

[@lefizz55]

An American producer, new to European shores, bought one in my old studio in London around the time they came out. I think it took him about 2 weeks to drop it and break his arm. Poor chap was proper embarrassed.

[@pnblondon1087]

I'm not surprised. They really needed special training for non-experienced motorcyclists. A friend of mine who was a professional motorcycle trainer, developed his own very effective system.

[@GenaF]

I was never aware of this...but I want one!

[@AdamMacleod83]

this leads perfectly onto the SMART car story! yayyyy

[@Locutus]

No it doesn't...

[@jansix4287]

Yes it does. The only difference is, Smart is also hated by people who never owned one, because of all the parking lots that seem to be free until you discover a fucking Smart hidden deep inside.

[@cpt_nordbart]

I once had a BMW C1 club driving past me. That was like a dozen of them.

[@enricio]

👏👏👏👏👏. Thanks for the blooper extra. Nice and original. 🎼🌪️☘️

[@angusielts7.00]

I bought one of these in the UK and shipped it to NZ when I migrated there. Luckily there was a BMW bike shop run by a C1 enthusiast. I used it for 3 years before selling it on when I left. I loved it, despite all the unkind words from 'bikers.

[@BobischEBM]

Really great episode and I just LOVE the outright hilarious outtake blunders at the end! : D

[@grahamnutt8958]

Informative and interesting. Had no idea, until viewing this video, that BMW had produced these. Keep up with the great content.

[@costipredoiu]

A very educative video! Thanks Big Car!

[@BigCar2]

Glad you liked it Costi!

[@MegaJJ1968]

Great video again! Best greets from Cologne

[@Megadriver]

Magnificent video! I've seen a few of these, but I never gave them much thought... Like many people I just assumed it was a motorcycle with extra weather protection. I had no idea of the hidden safety features. Seems like a neat idea, but for 7000 Euros, you can buy a very decent second hand car.

[@mattw8332]

I like the outtakes at the end where Andy is pis-pronouncing his worms! 😁

[@danweyant707]

Good episode, thank you.

[@kennethmanning9984]

Always informative

[@peterlennan]

Enjoyable content, engaging presentation as usual. More motorcycle content would be much appreciated

[@panagiotissoundias8173]

Hello grate video, thank you so much! I really like this BMW idea, I had also a ride once as a passenger at the back seat, very fun. You always felt very safe, it is riding steadily.

[@ap9970]

You have to do a video on the Peel P50, or would that be one for your Small Car channel 🤔

[@DavidLee-df888]

That picture at 1:19 wasn't enough?😂

[@BigCar2]

I'm sure I'll touch on micro cars in the future, but there's so many cars to do!

[@ap9970]

@@DavidLee-df888 It was longer than the car 📏

[@ap9970]

@@BigCar2 New channel starting soon? Micro Car 👍

[@nathanjoseph4284]

Yes please. A Peel P50 story has to be done at aome point.

[@lightchipster]

Great video! I would love to try one

[@LMCarneiro]

I haven't seen one of these in a while. Amazing, the topics you cover. Who could say? Thank you for the amazing video, as usual.

[@BigCar2]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@carsandstuff365]

I worked at Lehman brothers early 2000’s at bank street Canary Whalf .. loads of colleagues of mine had these .. they were everywhere in 2004

[@rajeshkadam4089]

Wow I haven't seen the video yet. But just wow. Love the subject.

[@bobwebb1348]

I love the out-takes!

[@davidvanniekerk356]

Dankie!

[@karbengo]

I had completely forgot that thing existed until I was reminded by this video.

[@stuartgreenshields5591]

I had a couple of these, first the 125, then the 200. Great concept but woefully underpowered. A police motorcyclist told me that like all new BMWs, they'll let the customers find the teething problems and boy was he right. They were hot trash and I had nothing but problems. Bought a Honda afterwards for less money and way more reliability. However I did like the level of customisation - effing massive rear box, rear seat, rear rack, heated grips and seat, sun roof (yes, really).

[@GeorgeCaramalac95]

Very interesting!

[@omranhnf-pb3md]

How amazing you explains man 👍

[@brandonb3279]

I love this channel; you rock!

[@BigCar2]

Thx!

[@bryco32]

I Really wanted one of these in the States. It never came over here and I settled for Honda Helix. Still have and love The Honda Helix.

[@warrenny]

same here. But I had bought my Helix a few years before BMW produced the C1. The Helix was amazing: super comfortable, so easy to drive and fast enough for the freeways! It was one of the first mega scooters. Sold it when I moved. Still dreaming of being on a mega scooter...

[@Daren_PNW]

But that ending with what sounded like a rotary phone ringing was just a charm.

[@KubikCv]

8:10 wow, my old Siemens S6 ♥

[@leemiller4375]

They should make one all wheel drive and call it the Escape Pod.

[@frederik3326]

Bmw seems to be working on a new one. Patents for a removable roof and stabilizing fins against side winds have emerged.

[@willswheels283]

I never expected you to do a motorcycle story, but I’m impressed! Being a biker myself. Honda C90 story next? 😎

[@BigCar2]

I'm not that into motorbikes, but this one caught my interest. Probably not any more coming any time soon!

[@karlosh9286]

@@BigCar2 Awww, and I was hopeful ! What about the Yamaha Tricity like trikes that can be ridden on a car licence ? :-D

[@Colaholiker]

One thing that really impeded their sales in Germany was related to our drivers license regulations. Even though you didn't need a crash helmet, it was still considered a motorcycle, requiring a motorcycle license - unless you were old enough to get your car license before 1980. (I don't know the exact date, but licenses issued before around that time included light motorcycles up to 125cc, which would have included the C1.) After that the limit was toned down quite a bit, as when I got mine in 1998, the limit was 50cc and some maximum power that I never cared about since someone of my size on such a small scooter would have looked totally ridiculous. Those 50cc scooters are really popular with younger people here as they don't require a motorcycle license and are quite inexpensive. The C1 didn't fit in there, and usually those who get a motorcycle license want to ride a motorcycle, not a scooter with a roof. So it was really a product for a niche market, and as such I wasn't surprised about the low sales here in Gernany.

[@user-oc6wi3tg1h]

感恩，謝謝分享！

[@Englishman_in_Taipei]

You can still buy Adivas with rooves in Taiwan. There is an Adiva dealership just up the road from my home in Taipei, but they are expensive.

[@shaunsstuff1249]

Another Enjoyable video!

[@azwris]

Your videos are simply awesome & the narration/material perfect. Although for this specific video I want to mention that BMW doesn't always mean quality. The GS 1200 model had a ton of issues. There are more examples to mention of course. I wish you'll post the history of Vespa Cosa one day. It was a revolutionary Vespa for its time and there is a very interesting history about it. Thank you once again!

[@BigCar2]

Yeah, there was a bit of sarcasm there. BMW was charging a premium because they thought people would pay more for BMW quality. I wasn’t saying if they had quality or not!

[@JohnnoDordrecht]

Drove one and i loved it

[@lawrencek9748]

Wow this is the most fascinating weird covered scooter thing I think I'll ever watch.

[@nvrndingsmmr]

What a fascinating vehicle!

[@darrensmith6999]

Mmm not sure about the C1 but that Honda Elysium looks ok shame it never went into production. );

[@TheRussianLondoner]

Best review of C1 on KZbin 👌🏼

[@kapitan517]

Great video! I'm enough of a geek that I totally want one, especially the electric veraion.

[@rsunnyskyline1219]

I remember when i was i kid we had one of those in color black with a beige seat i think this was one of the rare bikes that sold in asia

[@typxxilps]

We got 1 in 2002 I guess and it worked - as cheap leasing bike with a coupon for getting BMW C1 clothes worth 500€ you could choose. But that was limited to C1 labeled clothes only, not the motor bike ones. We got one - to get the clothes and have fun in spring summer and autumn cause winter was a time to avoid.

[@gregorylenton8200]

YES....ENJOY YOUR VIDIOS......IM RETIRED NOW..AND LOK FORWARD TO YOUR NEW VLOGS......THANKS

[@outdoorquest3005]

Would love to see more of these. Especially in the Indian market.

[@RachaelSA]

thank you :D

[@mollyfilms]

Going back some years ago there was a quasar bike sat in a field just outside of Bath in Somerset. Been there a fair few years by the looks of it.

[@danielsellers8707]

Looks like a scaled down Bond Bug!

[@maxepp]

Excelente!

[@jridder89]

Like the sound change.

[@BigCar2]

Thanks Jeff

[@TijnVos]

My dad once sold one new and he told me driving one of these on a windy day was scary as hell even doing 70kmh,

[@agrior]

That's true. I own a 200 version with optional sidewind screens (material like in some convertible cars). Riding up to 6 Bft is the max. After that, stay home :-)

[@Bod8998]

Yes yes yes as always loved the chopper episode now this

[@RealButcher]

Great thing. I saw it at the World Exhibition in Hannover in 2000. And bought one in 2008. I'm 71 and still drive my Executive C1 200. It's a great thing for nice weather and winds below 3 Beaufort. No highways, only those smaller roads. Last year there was no meeting in Germany due to Corona, but normally there would be about 100 - 130 driver from over Europe (including Great Brittain). Sadly it's not in the BMW-Welt in München. Weird. Maybe , next to my little Toyota iQ, I would buy a Citroen Ami One EV.

[@muhammadawisabdshahadan1117]

Inilah kisah sang BMW gayezzzz,cerita yang ada hasil bukan sia²... nexttttttttttttttttttttt

[@immanuelhermon]

I remember seeing one of these

[@passiton3801]

I had an Advia MK 1 with a folding roof an wipers, the only time u got wet was when u got off!. The later Adivas had 3 wheeled versions, very stable an comfortable, The Chinese brought out 4 wheeled versions of the powerful scooter. With Piaggio bringing out their versions called MP3 (which is now their most popular model). They also brought out a covered version and produce the much more powerful Gilera..

[@flyingisaac2186]

I owned one. It was top heavy and appeared not too great in wind (which is an issue in Ireland), and the stand was quite fragile. Yet a 200 with the luggage holder was a useful mode of transport with fine fuel economy.

[@agrior]

I agree. I own one currently and up to 6 Bft is the max with the additional side wind screens. Fuel economy on the 200 for me is 1 litre for 28 kilometers. Mostly highway.

[@mahiru20ten]

I saw the Williams variant of the C1 being used by the drivers of the Williams F1 team (that time sponsored and powered by BMW) in a magazine when they're doing a tour of the Monaco circuit.

[@ryanslade3465]

This scooter was so unique, cute & practical. Wish it was still in production

[@BerserkerRohan]

I think it is better that we get the hear the sounds of the cars during the clips. Definitely keep that.

[@BigCar2]

The footage doesn’t usually have this, but if I have it I will.

[@BerserkerRohan]

@@BigCar2 Cool.

[@aladamson1]

Big fan of yours, well researched and interesting tubes. Could you do more motorcycles? Triumph Street triple would be a good start!

[@BigCar2]

Motor cycles aren’t really my thing. I was interested in this as it was an oddity.

[@churchofmarcus]

Looking at the weather for tomorrow, I kind of wish I had one.

[@axelstoll429]

Had one of those Bikes as a Model back in the days, cool thing. Thank you for the video, would you be able to do one about the Italdesign BMW C2? Loved that car in Need for Speed 2, but can´t find much about it.

[@BigCar2]

BMW's aren't really my thing funnily enough, so I'll likely do some other marques in the future.

[@dragonskunkstudio7582]

More like this please. The weirder or unusual the better.

[@BigCar2]

I’ve a fun one coming for you in a few weeks!

[@Rouxenator]

Dave Gahan drove a 1957 BMW Isetta in Never Let Me Down Again by Depeche Mode. Bubble car winner : BMW Isetta.

[@robenglish416]

Love the design even if it’s impractical! Ahead of its time, maybe 3-wheels would have been easier to sell in! I don’t have a driving license valid for motorcycles and they are quite expensive to get!

[@BillHimmel]

The Honda Elysium looks awesome!

[@kevgermany]

Remember these coming out soon after I moved to Germany. Remember sitting outside a cafe in the sun while someone reode around on one of these. Not sure if it was a poseur or someone trying to promote them. But as a motorcyclist, the engine noise destroyed any chance of me getting one. Never see them now.

[@henrik1743]

I remember being at the BMW dealership in sweden as a kid and seeing these. I mentioned it during my job interview there later and the boss was astounded I remembered this, appearently they were a headache for them. Nobody wanted it.

[@b.baggins8893]

About 20 years ago I was working for service in Berlin. My Problem was to find parking space near the customers place. You sit dry and it's easy and semilegal to park on the side sidewalks. But the price is rather high and it's odd to ride with a passenger.

[@oneindapink]

I still see one most days whilst commuting in central London 😎

[@jamesnewman4351]

Brembo brakes are probably some of the best brake systems in the world so top quality there! Great video sa usual !!

[@thomas316]

Most motorcycles I've had have been manufactured by Brembo or Nissin. It's a much smaller market than cars. 🙂

[@jamesnewman4351]

@@thomas316 Nissin , another great company! I even have Brembo on my 31 year old 125cc bike and even back then they were considered Top. I visited the factory , which is 50km from where i live and found it fascinating 👍