The body of Jesus and Frank becoming a Deist?

[@gibsosmart]

As always Frank rocks in the way he answers. I didn't expect that he would say we can't prove Christianity is false, just like any other pastor. But he clearly admitted it that it can be proven wrong and a scriptural reference is - 1 Corinthians 15:14-19 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

[@thumbnailguy756]

Deepak Bandela How can you prove Jesus didn’t rise from the dead then?

[@elnino9106]

@R.J.J- El ganador which apostle?

[@thumbnailguy756]

R.J.J- El ganador Try to find a testimony of one of the apostles eyewitness accounts of the risen Jesus. Believe it or not, there is not one.

[@thumbnailguy756]

R.J.J- El ganador You initially said a good argument is an argument that can be falsified. That’s correct so why are you backtracking?

[@IM-tl7qv]

IS THAT TRUE? You know what I think Deepak? I think Frank is our best debater. He's like an all rounder who combines simplified versions of the best thinkers from specific fields. I've heard even Plantinga appear. Frank is AWESOME!

[@maxaxelwood4051]

Shout out to the guy who made the thumbnail

[@PeteJab]

😂 it’s so funny.

[@dochvtech22]

Look up Gene Kim

[@samuelhunter4631]

1Cor.15.14 - "And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain."

[@BelieveOnJesus]

Amen

[@AstariahJW]

Who raised up jesus? He didn't raise himself which trinitarians believe he did

[@samuelhunter4631]

@@AstariahJW Who said Jesus didn't raise himself up?

[@chevychelios4672]

Hallelujah

[@chevychelios4672]

@@AstariahJW God, His Father. John 10:17-18 For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life that I may take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my Father. "

[@eliasg4070]

I will never stop being shocked & amazed by Dr Frank turek. Would be an honor to meet you 1 day. So many questions. God bless you & Jesus Loves You 👍 😃

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Frank is using faith in his arguments. Since I am not a man of faith but a man of knowledge I cannot agree with Franks extraordinary claims without good evidence.

[@eliasg4070]

@@JamesRichardWiley theres enough evidence. You just choose to deny it. Its not just head knowledge but SPIRIT. Dr. frank has both. Why he is wise & chosen by GOD to claim WHO GOD is Jesus christ that came as a man & rose again to buy what HE thought was to precious to burn that the devil tried taking away by playing by HIS rules. By the way GRACE that was given as a GIFT cause HE is GOD & Can use whoever HE chooses or do what HE wants. Period.

[@spongebobsquarehead8121]

I though this was an announcement and I was scared witless lmao

[@blackshadow3132]

Lol same

[@thumbnailguy756]

SpongeBob SquareHead So if Frank stopped believing in Jesus, that would scare you?

[@spongebobsquarehead8121]

@@thumbnailguy756 It’s a joke, innit? Of course it wouldn’t scare me, same way atheists weren’t scared when Anthony Flew came to believe in God.

[@thumbnailguy756]

SpongeBob SquareHead Hmm. I’m not sure. If Frank became an ex Christian that would rock many people’s faith.

[@siddarthm3423]

@@thumbnailguy756 Aye Frank. You still here trying to spread hate? Didn't we already give you all the answers you asked in another video? Anyways, God Bless You!

[@cliveaw1206]

Thumbnail guy. Just wanna say we all appreciate you.

[@87JSpirit]

Christ Over Life 💯✝️

[@michielhoek1996]

These thumbnails are getting more awesome by the day! How could i not click on a video with a thumbnail like that?

[@festushaggen2563]

Christians can't be talked out of having met the risen Lord and having had our hearts and lives changed by Him. If someone has an intellectual belief then they can be talked out if it. Having been born again by grace through faith cannot be undone. Once you've been given eyes to see, you can't be blind again not knowing what it is to see. There's no going back and praise God, I'll never want to.

[@wishyouthebest9222]

HalleluYah'!

[@thumbnailguy756]

Trucker_Pete I can direct you to ex Christian testimonies where they explain that what they thought was the presence of Jesus was their own conscience. But like you, they couldn’t be talked out of it at the time, they had to take the difficult journey of discovering the bible was false first. The fact you say you couldn’t be talked out of it, shows how stubborn and closed minded you are.

[@lewis8332]

@@thumbnailguy756 then those ex Christian were not truly born again and I guarantee they went back to their sinful ways and went against god. Because in order to be born again you must turn away from sin that's what true repentance is.

[@spacemegalodon5049]

Frank Cox I bet $20 that someone will say that they weren't real Christians or something like that.

[@thumbnailguy756]

Lewisヅ Then why do they know the bible better than you or any other christian on this channel? Why do they know how the bible was made up and where many of the bible stories come from? Can you answer any of those? If not, don’t try and tell me they weren’t true Christians.

[@dapulou]

These thumbnails are irresistible!

[@dsanti4069]

" you can believe someone is a great spouse, but never marry them"... that is very true.

[@davidsarkar6668]

Thanks be to Jesus a lot, Amen !

[@rebekahy.3425]

Can we talk about this thumbnail😂

[@mtpta4947]

"Hypothetically IDK... Because I'm not" 😂 😂 😂 😂

[@JG-mz2lq]

Other religions claim they have done miracles but Jesus is the best miracle we can ever have ✝❤

[@somerandom3247]

It truely is a miracle that anyone would bring themselves to believe such a clearly fictional story as the one of Jesus of Nazareth.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

The best miracle was the formation of the Milky Way by the eternal Cosmos.

[@danyaelpecson557]

@@somerandom3247 except that story is not so fictional. Atheist historian Bart Ehrman even verified that Jesus of Nazareth did exist. Try talking to him if you want to.

[@yearight1205]

I went from Agnostic to Deist to Christian. So if Christianity were false I'd simply revert back to Deism, because it was the information that convinced me God existed that had me explore religion to begin with.

[@jeffphelps1355]

If atheism is the lack in the belief in God and offers no alterative worldveiw. If we are just a random act of time chance and matter, can we trust the thought process of skeptics when they claim there is no evidence for God.

[@itsJPhere]

If atheism is defined as lack of belief in a god or gods, where do you get the idea that "random act of time chance and matter" is atheism? Aren't you now adding something to atheism that isn't in the "official" definition? Isn't that like adding new stories to the Bible texts and then saying the addition is a ridiculous story and it invalidates the rest of the Bible even though it doesn't?

[@jeffphelps1355]

If you lack the belief that God created the universe and the human race that implies you believe there must be another explanation for excistance. We can go back and forth on definition but my point is still valid. Why should i trust an atheistic explanation for anything

[@jeffphelps1355]

And if you claim you do not know how the universe or life began that leaves God open for a explanation and that classifies you as an agnostic

[@itsJPhere]

@@jeffphelps1355 No, my lack of belief in the specific God that you worship doesn't imply any alternative beliefs whatsoever. I just don't believe the explanation that you offer and beyond that I can't explain our existence. But why should I believe that the obviously religiously motivated story about magic and miracles you believe in is not just another fairy tale? PS. "Atheistic explanation" doesn't exist because atheism is not an explanation or a belief, it's a label (for people who don't believe in the stories about a god or gods).

[@jeffphelps1355]

@@itsJPhere so there are no such thing as an atheist who has an explanation for our genesis apart from a God?

[@oterosocram25]

Hi somebody from Cross Examined, please make sure your videos have good audio quality, they are very low. Thanks.

[@somerandom3247]

It's fine on my end. I have it turned down a bit. Maybe something wrong on your end

[@NewCreationInChrist896]

01:25 This is were faith comes separate the wheat and the tares. You can read all the books in the world but until you read the Bible that has the spirit of God who can help you trust, you will be forever searching and debating. Romans 10:17 Proverbs 8:17

[@theoskeptomai2535]

How did you come to the conclusion that "the Bible has the spirit of God?" Can you explain your methodolgy or cite the source for the data you analyzed?

[@ETBrothers]

Well put!!

[@jimbojackson4045]

The audio is way too low. Please reupload

[@somerandom3247]

Was fine on my end. Had it turned down a bit even. Maybe something on your end?

[@toddhefer6084]

God Bless in Jesus Christ Name Amen.

[@sugarjones8047]

Frank sound so sad still. Gotta keep praying for him.

[@mickqQ]

“ if you found the body of Jesus” How would you know who’s body it was ? It’s most likely the body of Jesus was thrown into a pit, or left to rot on the cross ... that is how the Romans treated crucified people. Even if there was a scroll saying this is the body of jesus , leader of the 12, rightful king of the Jews People would just begin to say it was a spiritual resurrection,

[@VengefulPolititron]

allegedly we have a blood sample from the shroud of Turin. which also allegedly is still alive. the blood.

[@mickqQ]

The question is not “ did Jesus rise from the dead”the question is “ is there enough evidence to warrant believing that Jesus rose from the dead “ What evidence is there ?

[@VengefulPolititron]

you believe many historical events that were cataloged in history based on eyewitnesses who lived in the time period. theres literally more paperwork found that details Jesus life than Socrates and Plato. just because something is supernatural and you have not heard of it before doesn't mean it can't be true. there's a lot of crazy animals in the rainforest that I wouldn't have believe existed had I not seen the video. I'm being a hyperbolic of course I believe it but they're very strange. if you do the work of investigating all the science and archeology and history pertaining to Christianity you'll be able to see it too.

[@AjkMusicOficial]

Hey! Brothers, I know here there's a lot of people that study a lot, could you give me some of the evidence of Jesus resurrection or facts or arguments?

[@nicholasstephens7566]

Frank will tell you it has to be true because the authors wrote embarrassing stuff about themselves in the books and nobody would ever do that unless they were writing fact not fiction. Hahahaaaa

[@lood4591]

These new thumbnails are hilarious Frank lol

[@CalvinLimuel]

the mics sound really low from this session especially Frank's

[@drumrnva]

Interesting. Frank claims his religion is falsifiable, for example if the body of Jesus were found. But how in the world would we confirm that? Further, how is it possible to confirm or falsify that Jesus rose from the dead?

[@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867]

Finding Jesus's still dead body would show that he didn't however we can look at the history of the issue to see what evidence there is for and against. The Nazareth Inscription for example is an unusual inscription by the romans, typically the penalty for theft is 2-4 fold what you stole. The inscription dates back to 40AD and states that the punishment for stealing a body is death, the inscription is slightly after when Jesus would have died and is an admission that the Romans lost Jesus's body. Any explanation of what happened would need to account for that fact, along with other facts that I could bring up that historians base their theories around.

[@Josiahministries]

What does the evidence point to

[@drumrnva]

@@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867 But how could we know it was Jesus' body?

[@henryfrancis9533]

@@drumrnva That's the question, you as an atheist need to answer, you claim its false and such an event didn't occur, your the one's making the claims, not Christians.

[@henryfrancis9533]

@@drumrnva Use your scientific whatever and figure it out.

[@ADMusic1999]

You need to see a specific dead body before you can believe that the dead do not come back to life. You know that there are a lot of dead people out there that nobody has found the remains of - that doesn't mean that those people have risen from the dead.

[@electricspark5271]

@@thevulture5750 Truth

[@thumbnailguy756]

The Vulture And why would you have faith Jesus rose from the dead?

[@ADMusic1999]

@@thevulture5750 tis a question of logic. It is possible that you will walk outside one day and see a fire-breathing dragon at your door, but based on logic and evidence, that's not something to reasonably believe.

[@MrEVAQ]

@@thevulture5750 If it really did happen then it's a question of truth, not faith.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

The resurrection and ascension of a dead body does not happen in the real world. You must replace reality with your own imagination. That is how the Gospels were written.

[@JohnnyMaboy]

... it’s called a miracle, that’s what makes it so special

[@jeffphelps1355]

If the resurrection is just a hoax its really elaborate. The writes of the New Testament put people and places and events so we can verify through archeology that these accounts are accurate. The Romans who were not idiots could of cleared this up soon after the event happened

[@thumbnailguy756]

Jeff Phelps Not really these stories have just built on one another.

[@nicholasstephens7566]

THE resurrection? Read your Bible, man. Jesus was (not really but you think so) raised from the dead along with many, many many other prophets at the same exact time and place!! The whole empty tomb is complete bs according to your Bible. The whole graveyard was disturbed, many graves opened and prophets were raised and walked again. Did you know that? Most Christians don't because they don't read the Bible front to back or even one whole book at a time. Pathetic really.

[@jeffphelps1355]

@@nicholasstephens7566 what makes it pathetic? so your saying the resurrection is false? what makes your claim credible?

[@hansdemos6510]

@@jeffphelps1355 Assuming the gospel accounts are true (where they don't contradict each other), I think it is likely the Romans didn't care. The troublemaker had been executed, and his band was keeping quiet. Don't forget the disciples did not preach the resurrection in Jerusalem. They went back to Galilee according to some of the gospels or stayed in Jerusalem according to Acts, but in any case they kept to themselves until the Pentecost. When they did start preaching, the Romans apparently had lost interest and left the policing of their own religious matters up to the Jews themselves, which presumably is why Stephen gets stoned and not crucified, and why someone like Paul gets sent to the Jewish community in Damascus to make sure the heretics are kept in check.

[@Jesus_is-Lord77]

Frank should make alter calls during his lectures. That is how I got saved... "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." - Romans 10:13

[@kmdunruly]

Frank isn’t a pastor or preacher he’s a Christian philosophy The main purpose of this lecturers over the years is giving evidence he exist not necessarily preaching and calling those to come. But I get what you mean

[@Jesus_is-Lord77]

@@kmdunruly You don't need to hold the office of Preacher (Ephesians 4:11) to win souls to our Lord lol. I'm just a "no-shmo" guy from New Jersey and I win souls to the Lord by hearing people out, then ask if they would like to receive Christ "...if in fact He exists?" Most of them say "Yes". That's when I lead them to a prayer of repentance, get there # (most of the time), and follow up. Anybody can do it. Head knowledge is good, bit it only goes so far

[@maxmoseley7490]

I love frank but you can’t really prove that you found or didn’t find Christ’s body because there would be no way to tell by now if there was any of the body left if he didn’t raise from the dead

[@emmanueloluga9770]

Ummm anthropology says otherwise

[@nonybrighto]

@@emmanueloluga9770 what does anthropology say?

[@emmanueloluga9770]

@@nonybrighto archeology and anthropology as in the past can help trace the lineage of anybody in history as long as some form of DNA contained remains are found. We literally just revised our knowledge of Abraham's history due to this. Also finding Christ body or not is both dependent on his lineage, the lineage of the witnesses and those of the prosecutors. This is why even if he did rise from death as proclaimed, it can still be proven or disproven from witness and prosecutor anthropologies, so I don't know what Max Mosley was referring to.

[@maxmoseley7490]

orhema oluga guess I didn’t know that. I was just assuming any dead body we found from that long ago would be long decomposed with little to no distinctive marks. But thanks for telling me about that!

[@emmanueloluga9770]

@@maxmoseley7490 You are welcome. Remember this...basic archeology and anthropology in its simplest form is reduced to the science around carbon. Its why carbon based electronics are all the attraction of late

[@Derek_Baumgartner]

Nice vid with a succinct answer.

[@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon]

Hi Ike.

[@sad-pt7xd]

If Jesus never existed, it would be impossible to verify the claim since the only evidence you would accept is finding the body of Jesus.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

The body of Yeshua is hovering in the clouds above the Sinai Peninsula.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

There is not one known firsthand eyewitness accounts of this Jesus. Maybe the discussion should start at this glaring void. All else is chatter until the historicity of Jesus can be established by _credible evidence._

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Perhaps an appearance could start the ball rolling.

[@nicholasstephens7566]

As if you didn't know the channels comments are being taken down

[@anthonyesparsen7776]

oh great we are in business now lol

[@setlenbolstenderods1617]

There is no hope without God conquering the power of death, and He gave only ONE way, it's through Jesus Christ IF, it's true (Jesus did die and rose from the dead) then I have the hope of everlasting life, but IF it's not true, not just I, all who believe in Jesus is the poorest type of person a human being can be. And we believe in the Scriptures, it says that faith is the proof of things unseen, so my proof is the faith I have in Him.

[@thumbnailguy756]

Setlen Bolstenderods You have zero evidence for it being true.

[@setlenbolstenderods1617]

@@thumbnailguy756 That very 'zero evidence' you just said, is what I call proof, Frank. Sorry, but fleshy person understands fleshy things, but spiritual person, understands spiritual things. My question to you, do you believe in Jesus?

[@incredulouspasta3304]

_"my proof is the faith I have in Him."_ People have faith in all sorts of contradictory religions. If the scriptures say that faith is proof, then that is proof that the scriptures are wrong.

[@Arguvandal]

I'm a Christian, but IF Christianity would be proven untrue, then there is no God and we are just molecular machines who just ceases to be after death. If that is the case, I would hate missing all of the luxuries and pleasures of the flesh and do whatever you want. I would be really disappointed. Glad that I know it is true though.

[@setlenbolstenderods1617]

@@incredulouspasta3304 Well, just because you said the Scripture is not true, doesn't mean that what you claim is true. If you use the evidence that's seen, then the Bible would be less convincing, but if you use the evidence that's unseen (your emotions, mind, logics, and all, point out that God does exist, except of you suppress that truth by hardening your heart), the Bible is the most convincing proof of that unseen things you feel.

[@XxSlayerXxnuffin]

ok let's say hypothetically bingo was his name-o

[@VonHanshaw]

The resurrection of Jesus Christ cannot be proven and verified.

[@JundunYashua]

For anyone who isn't convinced, we are nearing the time of destruction. Prophecy is being fulfilled daily. That which is bad is seen as good and that which is good has been deemed bad. Dont forget the time, he who has ears, let him hear. Seek Christ while you still can, ANYONE who knocks with a humble and contrite heart, the door shall be opened. ANYONE who calls upon the Lord shall receive an answer. There is a time coming when His grace and mercy shall be cut off forever. The world and everything in it will not give you the peace you desire, the peace you seek and hope for. You can act happy in public but at night your heart is in despair. For His yoke is light and He is merciful.

[@nonybrighto]

lol

[@Severin69]

Pull the other one!

[@somerandom3247]

Have you got any good reasons to believe? Or is fear of clearly fictional stories the best you have to offer?

[@JundunYashua]

@@somerandom3247 You dont have to obey but it is true that you believe. For even your own conscience bears witness that God is real. If it were not true, your heart would not be burdened.

[@somerandom3247]

@@JundunYashua I most certainly do not believe ... Pretty audacious of you to assume otherwise.. my heart isn't burdened..... So I guess that means it isn't true?

[@YahFllr]

I find it easy to prove jesus and the NT to be fiction. Since jesus if fiction, then he could not have risen from the dead, because he could not die in the first place.

[@Josiahministries]

Even atheist scholars admit jesus was a real person. You're either ignoring the truth, or haven't done research on it.

[@YahFllr]

RetroMan I've look at every historian writings of that era. The most popular pick of historians is Josephus. Titus Flavius Josephus some folks like to use Josephus Flavius as a proof that jesus existed, for he mentions jesus in a short paragraph. The problem is, the numbers DON'T add up! Josephus was born Yosef ben Matityahu in 37 CE and died 100 CE. Most scholars assume the year jesus death was between 30 and 36 CE. this means that Josephus and jesus where not contemporaries. Antiquities of the Jews was written between 93 and 94 CE, which is great distance in time from 36 CE. plus the passage that states that Jesus the Messiah was a wise teacher who was crucified by Pilate, usually called the Testimonium Flavianum, has been proven to be a interpolated text that does not exist in the original text from Josephus, and at best was hear say since Josephus was not a eye witness of jesus just as you are not. for IF Josephus really did know him, he would have written a lot more about him instead of the tiny paragraph that we have in the later writings. Josephus never writes about any of the claimed events of the greek new testament. with an investigative research that my family and i did on the historians like Tacitus, Pliny the Younger and others, we were able to prove that none of them where eye witnesses, everything was hear say or interpolated. we did what any court would do and view the evidence and make a collective judgement call based on the knowledge each person brought up, and we declared each claim to be falsehood of jesus in the external sources. if the tiny paragraph of jesus is interpolated into Josephus's writings, who put it there? The earliest reference to the "Testimonium Flavanum" is found in the writings of the fourth-century Christian apologist and historian Eusebius, who used Josephus' works extensively as a source for his own Historia Ecclesiastica, writing no later than 324 c.e. It has therefore been suggested that part or all of the passage may have been Eusebius' own invention, in order to provide an false outside Jewish authority for the life of Christ. Some argue that the wording in the Testimonium differs from Josephus' usual writing style and that as a Jew, he would not have used a word like Christos (Χριστός), at Josephus' time being the Greek term for "Messiah". Thus, the Testimonium Flavanum is a Christian interpolated text.

[@YahFllr]

RetroMan But I don't need even the historians of that time to prove jesus was fiction. I use the new testament itself. Its very easy to prove the greek documents to be fiction!!

[@HolySpiritIsSatanOfSinDethHell]

@@YahFllr Don't sin my neighbor it's not worth it! Love God, your neighbor and stay away from coveting which is idolatry, lusting which is adultery of the heart, and hate which is murder there are a lot of other sins too in the bible. Have love joy peace kindness goodness meekness longsuffering faithfulness self-control selflessness valor etc. Its either paradise or lake of fire, God or satan. choose God and paradise

[@Homesteader1776]

“What kind of king makes Himself nothing for His people? The Mighty one. What kind of king lets His people humiliate and beat Him until He is unrecognizable and is still able to hold His head high? The Merciful one. What kind of king hangs Himself on a cross for his people? The Righteous one. And because He has done this for us I will make my life a living sacrifice unto Him.” His name is above all others His name is JESUS!

[@joelnenadovich8141]

Jesus is king 👑

[@somerandom3247]

King of the imaginary friends

[@Dylan-qj8gj]

nice

[@incredulouspasta3304]

Christianity is theoretically falsifiable. Great. Let's try to falsify it. If it's true, it should stand up to falsification attempts without a problem. *Mark **11:23**-24* - _"Truly I tell you, if anyone says to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and does not doubt in their heart but believes that what they say will happen, it will be done for them. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours."_ Is this true or false? Have you put it to the test? Honestly and rigorously?

[@nicholasstephens7566]

You won't get a comment because it is too challenging. Christians heads start to vibrate and eventually will explode rather than critically think.

[@thealterego4684]

Ah, but have you thought about it?? Look again. "Truly I tell YOU..." The question is, who is the pronoun "you" referring to? Hint: the apostles, who are being prepared for ministry. The way the word "anyone" is translated is misleading, since it is referring to those being spoken to. It's not telling everyone you get super powers and anything you wish.

[@incredulouspasta3304]

​@@thealterego4684 The text doesn't limit it to the disciples in front of him the way you say it does. Do you treat the sermon on the mount the same way? Is Jesus only addressing the crowds directly in front of him?

[@itsJPhere]

I think it's a lie to say that the resurrection can be disproved or Frank has very biased or limited imagination. Maybe he doesn't want there to be any other explanations than the supernatural one? There are scenarios where Jesus' body could be missing that don't require supernatural interventions, like: What if Jesus' body didn't exist in the first place or what if the disciples destroyed the body to make it look like the resurrection occurred?

[@itsJPhere]

​@The Comedian Just use your imagination. If Jesus was just a Jewish cult leader and not an actual supernatural being, to create "the messiah of the Jews" the earliest Christian cultists claimed that their cult leader "Yeshua" rose from the dead and then destroy the body if he actually was executed on a cross, so that no one could disprove their claims about the resurrection. They could just claim that he fulfilled the prophecies and performed miracles, although "Yeshua" didn't necessarily do anything what they write about him. So why would they do it? Perhaps they wanted their beloved cult leader back so much that they decided to make him "immortal", maybe it was their plan all along or maybe they just were delusional. Or maybe somebody just completely invented the story about the Jewish messiah. How do miracle stories usually begin? I guess we just need gullible people and someone to tell the stories.

[@itsJPhere]

@The Comedian What do you mean by "destroy infinity"? If Jesus was just a human being, why wouldn't it be possible to destroy his remains?

[@somerandom3247]

Yer, he starts from the wrong position. He should be starting with disbelief untill there is sufficient reason to believe. When you start from a position of believing, you leave yourself open to believing things that aren't true.

[@electricspark5271]

Atheists go to church...

[@d3faulta]

There's even atheist priests/pastors

[@electricspark5271]

@The 99% Google Sunday Assembly atheist church. There's one right down the street where I live as well. Many in NA and England

[@incredulouspasta3304]

It's nice to get together with people... Christianity isn't the originator of regular gatherings.

[@electricspark5271]

@@incredulouspasta3304 So when Christian's get togeather and worship Jesus you call it organized religion. When atheists get togeather and worship nature. What do you call that?

[@incredulouspasta3304]

@@electricspark5271 I'd call it weird, and have a good chuckle.

[@evangelistkimpatrik]

Frank Cox, or whatever he likes to call himself, is here trolling again 🤣

[@treasuringthetruth1371]

Ah, our good friend. Don't worry, his search for truth will bring him home soon enough 👍🏻

[@mizmera]

:). He is just making a fatal mistake. Let him. The more you dwell on Jesus, the more you attack his followers... the more you get into contact with the Word. This always ends up with their eyes opening. Let him.

[@thumbnailguy756]

mizmera The more I listen to these evangelists and interact with their followers, the more reasons I find to not believe.

[@thumbnailguy756]

Evangelist Kim Patrik Hi Kim, can you remember why Francis Collins considered evolution to be a fact? He explained truncated genes really well in that book. Maybe god used evolution to create the species?

[@mizmera]

@@thumbnailguy756 thats good. Just keep it up. Search for things in the bible to show us all that we are following a lie. Go in deep and dig it out.

[@regularstan6212]

I'd agree with Frank, if Christ never rose them it's false hope. But their is just so much evidence, I don't know where to start sometimes.

[@somerandom3247]

Start with the most convincing evidence maybe? I'm curious what it is

[@eliasasitetsoangami7497]

Y so much quarreling on this... It's Paul who founded the new religion call Christianity. Even Jesus worshipped his father Yahweh. Blasphemy to those who worshipped biside one God. Bible clearly written... Even Jesus told Satan to worship his God

[@eliasasitetsoangami7497]

@NicoCoco rightly said he is god but not Almighty God.

[@user-cr3db7cb8n]

First

[@PockASqueeno]

If I wasn’t a Christian I’d probably be Jewish. If Jesus didn’t rise from the dead, then He would just be a false prophet, and we’d still be waiting on the Messiah.

[@blastingcows5024]

14th

[@D123-f9k]

seconD

[@teamelectroteck]

morons countdown is over Sorry guys just a joke :)

[@thumbnailguy756]

Frank is so wrong here. How can you disprove Jesus rose from the dead or was god? You can’t so Christianity is not falsifiable.

[@thumbnailguy756]

Lunar Night Great. If you can not prove nor disprove something, then belief is not warranted.

[@kevo11438]

Can you prove that?

[@Melech77]

Do you consider eyewitness accounts as a reliable source of information?

[@d3faulta]

Lol, he gave you the answer and you still don't get it. If you find the body then he obviously didn't rise from the dead.

[@thumbnailguy756]

Melech77 I don’t consider an old book of stories about gods and dragons remotely trustworthy. So even if you had eyewitness accounts in it they’re not trustworthy. But you haven’t even got that. Even if we were to assume the bible was true, you don’t have one eyewitness account that you could take into a courtroom.