The Book That PROVES Jesus was REAL | Joe Rogan

In this video, we break down a clip where comedian Chris Distefano confronts Joe Rogan with Historical Evidence for Jesus.
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[@CoxInc_3]

Case for Christ, Lee started writing that book to not prove but disprove Jesus Christ and Became a BELIEVER in CHRIST!!! True Story!!!

[@derekanderson5805]

It's a great book! I read it a few months ago and have been recommending it to people.

[@codyparker6861]

But why did the old testament have animal sacrifices and regular offerings? This has always confused me

[@tannerbuckley2037]

@@codyparker6861 Hey, forgive me for jumping in here; I hope you dont mind. The Old Testament had animal sacrifices and regular offerings to deal with their sin. Remember, the penalty for sin is death, and in Leviticus, we learn that life is in the blood; this is why death and blood play a crucial role in Old Testament Judaism. Today, those sacrifices and regular offerings are no longer needed since we have the blood and sacrifice of Jesus Christ the Lord. I hope this helps a little bit or opens up a line of thought for you to consider moving forward. Great question!

[@johnmurphy3349]

​@tannerbuckley2037 yes he was basically the last sacrifice, thats why the bible says we cross over jordan, they also couldn't eat certain foods, but now if we bless and pray over our food it will not harm

[@bridiebarry8778]

​@@codyparker6861was done to atone for sins.

[@bullyboy131]

Joe talking to so many Christians! May Christ continue to draw him closer.

[@Marabarra94]

nah he is too down to earth for a cult.

[@ChrisG313rd]

That guy getting interviewed didn’t know what he was talking about. All you have to do is read the Bible and get a copy of Josephus but everyone is too lazy.

[@The.xBULLDOGx-vw2zy]

He was a big time scoffer....thats far from belief....but pray he's enlightened for sure...

[@hc5327]

@@Marabarra94Christians is not a cult. Cults aren’t capable of explaining the Creation, the world and humanity like God and Jesus did. Christians are followers of Christ, spiritually connected to Jesus Christ. Research the amount of time and documentation of putting together the Bible and the fact it was perfectly made. It was God breathed to those who wrote it. Scriptures verifies scripture plus it’s all about creation up to the end. The prophesies fulfilled 100% by Jesus. There is so much documentation to prove, define God’s Divine existence with the whole Bible pointing to Jesus, the Savior of the world, which was prophesied and 100% fulfilled right down to the very details. Satan can still convince humans there is no God or devil. That’s called deception. Man has definitely lived up to that deception because God told us this would happen. God is omnipotent and omnipresent.

[@TeranRealtor]

Joe is a great interviewer, because he allows his guest to explain their point of view. He does not approach an interview for the purpose of click bait or "gotcha" moments. Still, the question of Jesus is a hard one for him, because the answer is life changing.

[@wordsoffire2416]

“If the world hates you, remember it hated me first” Jesus

[@sues3218]

I don't see Joe getting any closer. I just see him constantly looking for excuses to disprove the bible. He has done it with every Christian he has had on his show. (Just sayin')

[@spicedxxx4814]

😢🙏✝️

[@joyjeffcoat8711]

They put soldiers at the tomb to make sure the disciples didn't steal the body

[@Del-Scent]

Truth.

[@dusteymaynard2255]

Great quote. ❤️🙏🏼✝️ Anything good in this world came from God.

[@AvaSmith-fe8kw]

Hallelujah!!! I’m favored and blessed with $60,000 every week! Now I can afford anything and also support the work of God and the church.

[@PatriciaHenderson-ry7qb]

Oh really? Tell me more!

[@AvaSmith-fe8kw]

This is what Ana Graciela Blackwelder does, she has changed my life.

[@AvaSmith-fe8kw]

After raising up to 60k trading with her, I bought a new house and car here in the US and also paid for my son’s (Oscar) surgery. Glory to God.shalom.

[@AndrewJackson-lp2ee]

I know Ana Graciela Blackwelder, and I have also had success...

[@AndrewJackson-lp2ee]

Absolutely! I have heard stories of people who started with little or no knowledge but managed to emerge victorious thanks to Ana Graciela Blackwelder.

[@robertwessels9827]

The book that did it for me was The Bible. I listened to many sermons by Chuck Missler. He explained so many things I didn’t understand from the Old Testament. The Old Testament prophesies about Jesus were 100%. I thought the Case for Christ was wonderful, too. But, Chuck Missler is a fabulous Historian, and he made the Bible his life. Great teacher.

[@britdaughdrill8149]

Chuck missler was very wise

[@PennelopeWhitmore]

I found a pastor on here Allen Nolan. He studied Greek and Hebrew and he translates a lot from original. He can make mud sound interesting. He has a bunch of series on end times stuff. The comments are full of people saying he's the most gifted pastor they have ever heard and I ai agree.

[@Marabarra94]

the prophesies are off. you should read your bible.

[@Maxtana5]

chuck is the best bible teacher I've ever found, I've heard he had a 187iq

[@TiffanyT-LaDolceVita]

Love Chuck!

[@JoeSchmoe-mp3pm]

The Romans didn’t hate Christ. They didn’t want to kill Christ. They didn’t love him either. Read what Pontius said about Christ when he wrote a letter to Caesar.

[@christopappageorge827]

Pilate “washed his hands” of the whole thing.

[@wms72]

That letter was proven false. The protestant pastor who forged it was judged and punished by a group of fellow pastors and forbidden to be in ministry for at least a year afterwards.

[@michaelzintzun1693]

@@wms72lol I’m sure they did. The church doesn’t even teach the Moses sacrificed children. But numbers 31:40-41 says otherwise.

[@joshjacobson8573]

Most did you are talking about an entire culture. It’s the same with every race and culture even hebrews and all people hated Christ

[@googoogaga6850]

@@michaelzintzun1693 moses decides to sacrife them but god aint responsible for the stupidity and sin of man

[@Tyler-xd9rb]

What I would have added to this, besides where the conversation ended up, was what I took as the BAM statement from Lee's book. Many will die for what they believe to be true. No one will give their life for what they know to be a lie. Yet the apostles went to their deaths for refusing to deny our Lord's life, death, burial and resurrection. On day, every knee shall bow, and every tongue confess, that Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@tenmilesfm]

'No one will give their life for what they know to be a lie.' - assume you're familiar with suicide bombers and kamikaze pilots? The apostles need not have knowingly lied or been deceptive, any number of scenarios in which they genuinely believe are plausible. As for most of the apostles being martyred for their beliefs, I encourage you to actually read up on that, and you will find that there is evidence for perhaps two apostles having been martyred. The rest are either narratives from church tradition, or narratives that originate from apocryphal gospels and not considered historically accurate.

[@sweatt4237]

@@tenmilesfm " for what they *KNOW* to be a lie" Read it again very slowly.

[@tenmilesfm]

@@sweatt4237 I'm not sure what you are trying to point out here? Maybe you can explain it for me. Slowly.

[@trollpeis]

Amen brother!

[@jesusisalive3227]

Amen!

[@teriross3779]

It was explained to me that the Jewish Rabbis didn't just memorize the words, but they sang the words. Singing is a well known way of memorizing something without worry of it getting changed thru the generations.

[@TeranRealtor]

Right. Wait until you are in your 60's. Go into a place and hear a song from your youth, that perhaps you have not heard for 30 years. You will still know the words!

[@zealot777]

Agree. Psalms is pretty much exactly that.

[@harrysmith8338]

@@zealot777 Psalm 82

[@sundayoyedele2862]

Spot on! 😊❤

[@NMemone]

Eastern Orthodox readers all sing the Bible readings during services. Many Orthodox sing/chant certain prayers and Psalms as well. I could even sing you the Nicene Creed! You are right, it is a very effective way to memorize these texts, especially the Psalms, which tend to be longer and more complex.

[@damieno3470]

Another thing overlooked here is the Roman guard placed there, were not 2 guys like what is commonly depicted today. I think there could have been upwards of 16 well trained Roman soldiers guarding that tomb, of which faced a very terrible way to die if they failed at their post! A few untrained apostles that couldn't even swing a sword definitely would not have been able to sneak past, open the humongous stone that is designed to be easy to close, hard to open and steal Jesus's body from the tomb!

[@tenmilesfm]

There is absolutely no evidence that 16 well trained soldiers would have been guarding the tomb, I have no idea where you get that nonsense from. And ironically, if that was indeed true, it would render the narratives of the women finding the tomb entirely contradictory.

[@LucyLindwood]

@@tenmilesfmhe probably got it from somewhere people typically don’t make up random facts out of thin air

[@oblitorix21]

​@@tenmilesfm Typically there were at least one soldier responsible for a prisoner..Jesus was a high value target and thus there had to be more guarding his tomb.. I dunno if 16 is accurate but soldiers who misplaced their assignment took their place so rest assured heads were rolled post this finding.

[@tenmilesfm]

@@oblitorix21 You 'dunno' if 16 is accurate? No, 16 is not even remotely within the realm of accuracy. Also, what do you mean by 'Jesus was a high value target'? For the Pharisees yes, for the Roman's not at all - it doesn't even remotely follow that that they would have identified a need to guard the tomb beyond what the Pharisees asked. One or two, as the Gospels state, is a reasonable assumption. You're basing your assertion about 'heads rolling' off of nothing. We don't know if any guards abandoned their posts outside of what ONLY Matthew tells us. Anything beyond that is just baseless conjecture.

[@ztimbo]

Roman crucifixion is designed to keep you on the tree, pole, cross and alive for as long as possible. After the crows eat you alive, your corpse is thrown in the city dump to burn with the trash. A traitor would never be killed that day, or given a tomb with 16 guards. The entire story is made up BS added much later to Luke and Matthew to correct the original tale in Mark which has no birth or resurrection narrative.

[@dconndannyconnolly9829]

CHRIST JESUS NEEDS NO ENDORSEMENT FROM ANYONE

[@strattuner]

CORRECT,HE IS THE ALPHA AND OMEGA,me,i've seen too many things in my 73 years to convince me totally he is the real deal,he's my GOD,THINGS THAT DEFY LOGIC,thank you lord for your tender mercies

[@KingKongbabe]

You are missing the point. It’s what witnessing is all about.

[@randywise5241]

Why did he command us to spread the gospel? For people would know of Him. That is promotion.

[@KingKongbabe]

@@randywise5241 you are embarrassing yourself with your ignorance

[@Eye_of_a_Texan]

Indeed, Christ does not need anything. Not like we need things to sustain ourselves. God is self-sustaining, however He does want things from us. Describing what He wants and why He should get it is kind of the entire point.

[@nomad7631]

Here is something.. I realised the bible to me seemed ligit after wanting to disprove it. So Jesus being who He said He is, can hear you right now. In fact knows your every thought and being but let's set that aside. I went straight to the source and Jesus Himself confirmed everything to me.. I had no understanding really but I gave my life to Him saying if the bible is real and He really died for me my life is His. Lot's of things happened and I asked a youth pastor whom I played soccor with why he was so passionate as I could not understand it. He asked me what do you believe? I was like confronted as it made so much more sense than what I had believed but it wasnt "real" to me yet as I had no "experience" of Jesus but I said I believe I guess as it makes sense but it's not real to me yet at the same time. SO I believed in my heart and confessed before men without me realising. long story short, Holy Spirit entered in me POWERFULLY that night and next night I ended up face to face with Jesus (couldn't make out His face as it was like radiant like the sun, didn't hurt my eyes tho) and I just knew everything on the spot in that place, no doubts. God is so good and so patient, how He put's up with me is beyond me but He does.. Search for the truth and you will find Jesus.. Yeshua, who died for us on a cross to break the curse of sin that is on us. ONLY through Him can you come to the Father.. it is true

[@Jona-cn3le]

Thanks, this was something i needed to hear.

[@user-gf3op7kr1p]

Excellent testimony. So many don't realize it's not about "being good" but about what the Lord can do inside us. He is real and "imputes His righteousness to the believer" and we become a "new creation!" Most people are concerned about"what they have to give up" and I promise you what you gain is so much better than what you lost you can't even compare the two! Praise the Lord, Praise the Lord, Rejoice in Lord always and again I say rejoice! Amen be blessed.

[@earlforeman7682]

WOW THE STUPIDITY IS STRONG IN YOU THE BIBLE IS FROM THE SUMERIAN TEXT OVER 200,000 YEARS AGO MOST OF THE OLD TESTMENT WAS COPIED FROM THE TEXT WORD FOR WORD!!! THEY JUST CHANGED THE NAMES!!! WITHOUT RESEARCH STUPIDITY ABOUNDS!!!

[@user-mh7ek6ud8e]

jesus was not who he was claiming to be: "the messiah". Why? For he had failed to fulfil the 'prophecy', which said that the true 'messiah' will unify the jews and take them BACK to the 'promised land". In case you haven't, and it is clear you haven't, read the 'bible', since the jews were already in the 'promised land', what sort of "messiah" was jesus hallucinating to be????? The jews saw through his delusions and hallucinations and chose the appropriate method of dealing with the unbalanced, self-appointed 'prophet'. He also claimed that 'yahwe'/'jahwe' was not HIS 'god', yet the actual inventor of 'christianity' Saul/Paul in his letters to corinthians states clearly that the jews (later re-named into 'christians' by Romans) follow only one of various 'gods' roaming around. 'yahwe'/'jahwe'. So, who is lying between the pair? Both. There is no 'god' in the 'bible'. Only an owner of that one tribe of the jews. They were slaves of some vile and brutal slave owner that called himself 'yahwe'/'jahwe'. That's pretty much all there is to it.

[@lisagreechan9088]

Beautiful testimony brother how beautiful praise you Lord God for ever and ever 🙏

[@elkhuntr2816]

The gospels started 35 years after Jesus death (Mark). And the oral tradition source dates back to within 5 years of Jesus death. There is no history more verifiable and accurate in that time frame than the historical evidence for the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

[@Marabarra94]

we don't know when Mark was written and we don't know if there even was an oral tradition. no proof for early oral tradition

[@elkhuntr2816]

@@Marabarra94 "we don't know when Mark was written and we don't know if there even was an oral tradition. no proof for early oral tradition" Of course we do. Its pretty well established what the time frame was when the gospels were written. The oral tradition dates back to within about 5 years of Christs death. Paul refers to this tradition in his writings which includes the 500+ eye witnesses that all saw Jesus at the same time. Most of those witnesses were still alive and could be interviewed directly when Pauls writings came out.

[@ronaldmorgan7632]

@@Marabarra94 Ummm, oral tradition was tradition back then.

[@russell2910]

Nothing like waiting five years after someone rises from the grave to say something about it.

[@leojmullins]

The Apostles Creed was in place within days of Christ's resurrection.

[@greghaa]

Jesus' brother James became a follower after the resurrection. That along with being witness to Jesus' life was enough to convert him.

[@Maxtana5]

I often imagine what went thru his head when he saw his brother raised from the dead!

[@dannylinc6247]

Yes, he believed, James the just, right? And he was martyred?

[@DrLars77]

@@dannylinc6247 Yes. He become the leader of the church in Jerusalem and Jewish leaders had him thrown off a tall building and then stoned to death for proclaiming Jesus's divinity.

[@dannylinc6247]

@@DrLars77 and I heard he was the first guy wearing the special hat like the later popes wore early on. He didn't die when they threw him off the high corner, so they beat on him till he was dead. Source:CSN radio

[@joyceletterman2506]

James is my favorite book in the Bible. ❤

[@truthserum9157]

The Old Testament is in the New Testament concealed, the new New Testament is in the Old Testament revealed.

[@spectreshot8536]

And they're both equally wrong, contradictory, have zero accurate portrayals of anything. Soooo...

[@strappedfatman7858]

The New Testament writers quote the Old Testament! If Paul didn't write Timothy! Then, who was the inspired writer. (if) the Gospels were written before 70 AD or after. 1 Timothy 5:18 For the scripture says: Paul supports what he said in the preceding verse by using two quotations. (Compare Ro 9:17) The first is taken from De 25:4. The second may be an allusion to Le 19:13. However, it is also possible that Paul is here referring to a text in one of the Gospels. His wording is almost identical to what Jesus said as recorded at Lu 10:7. (Paul’s quote is also similar to the wording found at Mt 10:10) Therefore, this may be an early example of a Bible writer’s quoting from a Gospel, confirming that it is inspired Scripture.

[@strappedfatman7858]

The Canon Ezra 7:6 This Ezʹra came up from Babylon. He was a copyist* who was well-versed in* the Law of Moses, which Jehovah the God of Israel had given. The king granted everything he requested, for the hand of Jehovah his God was upon him. The expression “Bible canon” came to denote the collection, or list, of books accepted as genuine inspired Scripture. The term “canon” is derived from the Hebrew word qa·nehʹ (reed). Reeds were used as a rule or measuring device. (Eze 41:8) Fittingly, the Bible canon, or catalog of inspired books, enables the reader to “measure” faith, doctrine, and conduct. The canon of the Hebrew Scriptures was established by the end of the fifth century B.C.E. According to Jewish tradition, the skilled scribe and inspired Bible writer Ezra began the work, and it was completed by Nehemiah. (Ezr 7:6, ftn.) The writing of the Christian Greek Scriptures was completed during the time that the gifts of the spirit were operative on Christ’s followers. (Joh 14:26; Re 1:1) Some Christians had the gift of “discernment of inspired expressions.” (1Co 12:10) Thus, they could, without referring the matter to a supposed church council, determine which of the letters the congregation received were inspired of God. With the death of John, the last apostle, this reliable chain of divinely inspired men came to an end. Therefore, with the book of Revelation, John’s Gospel, and his three letters, the Bible canon was closed. The testimony of later, noninspired writers is valuable only as an acknowledgment of the Bible canon, which God’s spirit had guided and authorized.

[@strappedfatman7858]

(If) The Gospels was written after Jerusalem was destroyed. The Apostles were writing letters to the congregations before the Gospels was written. Because after the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD. The Jewish practice of animal sacrifices ended when the Romans destroyed the temple in Jerusalem. With the temple gone, there is no longer a place for the sacrifices to be offered according to the Mosaic Law. Did they make the Gospels up because they had no temple no more. No they didn't. The Gospels are proof of Jesus the Lamb of YHVH Yehovah Jehovah God! The need for animal sacrifices no longer existed, for Christ had fulfilled the righteous requirements of the Law (Matthew 5:17). Animal sacrifices were merely a type of the perfect Sacrifice-the Lamb of God (YHVH Yehovah Jehovah) who takes away the sins of the world (John 1:29). The sacrifice of Christ paid the debt of sin for all mankind, both Jew and Gentile (Romans 1:16; Hebrews 9:12-15). John was an eyewitness to Jesus and the destruction of Jerusalem and he received Revelation for the congregations of Christ! The First of John 1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have observed and our hands have felt, concerning the word of life, 2 (yes, the life was made manifest, and we have seen and are bearing witness and reporting to you the everlasting life that was with the Father and was made manifest to us), 3 that which we have seen and heard we are reporting also to you, so that you too may have fellowship with us. And this fellowship of ours is with the Father and with his Son Jesus Christ. 4 And we are writing these things so that our joy may be complete.

[@strappedfatman7858]

Like in the Gospel of Mark the short and long conclusion was not originally there. The NWT ends at Mark 16:8 Jesus is the Lamb of The God of Abraham YHVH Yehovah Jehovah Mark 16:8 In the Gospel of Mark. If the women tell no one then, Who is ! What each Gospel story is about. The four living creatures! Matthew Who was! Mark Who is! Luke Who is Coming! John The Lamb of YHVH! The four gospels are associated with the four living creatures: Matthew, the man, Mark the lion, Luke the ox, and John the eagle. John has Jesus dying on a different day. It's the Day of Preparation, not the Day of Preparation for Passover. It was the day they prepared the lambs for sacrifice. While at the same time, Jesus is prepared for sacrifice. Jesus is the Lamb of YHVH Yehovah Jehovah a man, a lion, an ox and an eagle. The man symbolises the prophet; the lion, kingship; the ox, priesthood, and the eagle, fatherhood.

[@bankimmun8621]

If the apostles steel the body and they knew the resurrection is a hoax -wha nearly ALL of them (except John) was killed the most horrible and they accept this with free will. the only thing would be to say : sorry it was a lie and then they would be free and alive. So imagine if you was Judas Thaddeus (they ripped of his skin alive !) if you had the chance to stay alive -would you accept this torture if you know its all a hoax? they KONW the ressuraction was true, therefore they accept death.

[@RudyCarrera]

All of them except John did indeed die horrific deaths, and if they thought this was some charade as atheists claim, they would have cowered and saved their necks. They did not because they witnessed God on earth, and knew that death had already been conquered. Their legacy lasts.

[@bankimmun8621]

@@RudyCarrera 100% agree

[@JohnSmith-cf4gn]

I've known Jesus is real. He come to me and saved me when I was 8 years old. I was really born again. God adopted me.

[@lilbitofsouthernspirit7788]

I was saved at a young age too. A few times in my life I knew Jesus &/or my guardian angel interveined on my behalf

[@FindTheTRUTH337]

You’re the kind of Christian I want in the church that I go to.

[@lynncantrell2782]

Acts 2:38 Repent and be baptized everyone of you and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. That’s how you are born again. Just by saying a sinners prayer does not make u born again. Hope that’s what you did, just like the 3000 who were water baptized and was added to his church in acts

[@lilbitofsouthernspirit7788]

@@lynncantrell2782 THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER IS THROUGH ME, JESUS CHRIST! Baptism is not what saves a person, belief in Jesus does

[@FindTheTRUTH337]

@@lynncantrell2782 according to the verse that you quote, that is how “….you shall receive the gift of The Holy Ghost.” No mention of being born again in that verse.

[@randomname2366]

Thank you for doing a reaction video where you let the original video cook for a few minutes before jumping in. So many commenters interrupt every 10 seconds and you never get a sense of what the original video was saying and it adds so much run time unnecessarily. Thank you for adding in quality meaningful commentary.

[@JW-lw8pc]

Jesus is Christ is Lord!

[@patiux1980]

The Lord of lords. Died and after 3 days resurrected. Glory to God!

[@mileslong4061]

Lord is Lord and she sang mediocre songs.

[@wenmar3837]

​@@mileslong4061Are you referring to the mediocre singer Lorde?

[@jefffreeman1118]

Jesus was never a man. It's the placenta cut from every baby entering this realm from fertilization.

[@user-mh7ek6ud8e]

Funny that. jesus himself categorically denied that claim. He, also very categorically, stated that he is just another ordinary human like everybody else. I gather you have never really read the bible, else you would have known that little detail.

[@williammelear2906]

Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

[@kyaxar3609]

That sounds narsistic to me!

[@gregcrockerroofmd]

John the apostel was alive when he wrote john and revelation 70 yrs' I'm 65 I could write all about Kennedy who was killed when I was 4, in fact, I could tell you the real truth about Kennedy now better than when I was 20!!!

[@davefiano4172]

Go oooon!

[@katherinefitzpatrick446]

Cultures with oral traditions weren't like a game of Telephone. Their history was important. They selected children with the sharpest mental abilities to be the storytellers & they spent years preparing, memorizing, ensuring accuracy. It had to be right.

[@RudyCarrera]

There is also a continual witness from churches like the Orthodox, Catholic, Oriental Orthodox and Church of the East. Unlike the Evangelicals or other Protestants, there is no break from Christ to today.

[@mikebroadway8643]

The “Telephone game” is a weak argument. It is the comparison of two cultures that are not the same. The first century Jewish and Greek cultures were not distracted by TV or social media. The accuracy of news depended of information shared from person to person to be factual. When it came to historical information the information handed down from generation to generation was taken very seriously and fabrication was not tolerated. Also, as stated previously these oral traditions cultures had a verification system to prevent errors.

[@rockinmissionary9502]

Case for Christ Movie was great! If you want to hear about his two years of research, why don’t you have Lee Strobel on & ask him yourself!!!

[@reginapontes5672]

Good point! Get the man himself on for yourself Joe!

[@eltomas3634]

Absolutely beautiful video. This is the beauty of podcasts and other small network giant audience platforms. Rogan is very relatable, he has the classic doubts that most people have and the same barriers to belief in Christianity. The beauty is the pursuit of truth and not letting uncomfortable feelings get in the way of truth. Rogan wants the truth and he is properly going about finding truth. I welcome his guarded approach, he is discovering with caution. He will become a believer, it's in God's hands and it is the truth. As long as he has truth as the ultimate goal, he will become a believer.

[@kungfuchrisconway]

Which episode of Joe is that? Who is the guest? I want to watch the whole thing

[@stefan1998]

Chris DiStefano

[@timmorales1569]

I think the disciples wrote these books a lot earlier than people realize and I think I can prove it and it’s simple. The reason why they had to write them earlier is bc the temple was still standing and if it wasn’t, then guess what. They would have wrote about it being destroyed and the fact they didn’t is proof it was earlier. Many references in the Bible from the New Testament and even the old talk about many things from the past and let us know the things they are talking about were still the same in their time. Like David’s tomb for example. They say and it’s is still there to this day.

[@user-mh7ek6ud8e]

Except for the fact that the 'temple' too is a conjured up a thing. Oh, and for the second fact too: no one knew how to write. Most certainly the "disciples" since they were the bottom of the plebs strata. You religious fanatics idealise and venerate these poor baggers as if they were all highly educated, with a couple of university titles for a good measure. They were the poorest of the poor and had zero idea about writing. Probably did not even know that the writing skill existed. And you follow the blabbing of such primitives... Go figure...

[@p3rryn]

Fun fact: there isn't a single grave for one name in the Bible on the planet Earth. To say the disciples wrote the book let's me know you are ignorant to the councils; most Christians are. I challenge you to really research them and then research the similarities amongst all religions..and the timing of the 1st printing press and the near end of the Dark Ages. It's telling bro

[@marwood1969]

The book of Acts was written in AD62 and Acts is essentially 'Luke 2' which means Luke was written some time in the late 50's and Luke was not the first Gospel, which moves the date right back to the time of Jesus.

[@litigioussociety4249]

Pretty much most Christians date Matthew, Mark, and Luke to before 60AD. It's only non-Christians that push the post 70AD date, because of Jesus' prediction about the temple being destroyed.

[@chasecarswell39]

pretty sure book of Acts is estimated between 80-120 AD

[@ronaldmorgan7632]

@@chasecarswell39 Nope. Not at all. The last Gospel was John, written about 90AD.

[@litigioussociety4249]

@@chasecarswell39 The only people who put it that late are the ones that claim Luke used Jospehus as a source. Textual criticism, Paul's epistles, and many other things reject that theory. Disputing the dates is not necessary for someone to reject the theology of the bible. That's why Bart Ehrman style criticisms are weak.

[@chasecarswell39]

​@@litigioussociety4249 I'll have to look into it more, thanks for the info. All I mean is that all this is basically impossible to prove/disprove. Very certain Jesus existed, but most other things I think are up for debate. Definitely not trying to offend anyone or state anything is outright false. Just that this is all debatable for good reason. I digress because I am certainly no expert in this area.

[@matthewadamson4687]

Glad to have found your channel! Great work!

[@Faith_Walker]

I'm so happy I found this channel!

[@nicl8749]

Would you die for a lie, all of the disciples died bar John , died bad cruel deaths for their faith, was it for a lie, no, they seen Jesus die and resurrected, if the disciples stole the body what was in it for them to lie and die cruelly, remember Peter he asked to get crucified upside down because he was not worthy to die as his lord and saviour, what for a lie.

[@aaronkristo858]

I am a Christian, but need to point out that every Muslim "martyr" has died for a lie. I believe in Jesus 100%, but this might not be the best argument.

[@nicl8749]

@@aaronkristo858 a lot of those Muslims that had martyrdom believed sincerely that they got taught they would go to paradise for their martyrdom, But the disciples if they stole the body of Jesus and made up that Jesus got resurrected, then they would be dying for nothing. Not knowing there would be paradise at the end of their deaths, It’s different.

[@tenmilesfm]

@@nicl8749 There are numerous reasons the disciples may have continued to believe regardless of whether they genuinely witnessed a resurrection or not. CS Lewis' nonsense argument of Liar Lord or Lunatic has been debunked for years already. Why don't you actually read up on where Strobel gets his evidence for the disciples all being martyred? Only a few of them have what could be considered historically accurate narratives around their deaths. The rest is all church tradition or apocryphal.

[@ronaldmorgan7632]

@@aaronkristo858 The point is, they believe what they are dying for. They are not dying for something that they believe to be a lie.

[@aaronkristo858]

@@ronaldmorgan7632 I get that. But Muslim martyrs think they are dying for something that isn't a lie. But it is. That is my point.

[@Harpadzo]

I ask people, "What's the date?" I mean, our year dates are based upon his passing on the cross. "Evidence That Demands A Verdict" is my personal favorite.

[@tenmilesfm]

And our weekdays are based on Roman and Norse deities. Your point?

[@Harpadzo]

@@tenmilesfm You missed it entirely How is the Norse or Roman deities fixed to a particular date in history? Also, Rome could have have produced a body, if it was there, and stopped the Christian uprising and probably the fall of Rome. They did not, could not, why?

[@tenmilesfm]

@@Harpadzo No, you missed it entirely. You're claiming that because our calendar is based on the supposed birth of Jesus, this is somehow evidence. I'm pointing out that simply because we base a common concept on a religious figure doesn't make it evidential. Technically it's not even accurate since Jesus was likely born between 6 BCE and 4BCE. 'Also, Rome could have have produced a body, if it was there, and stopped the Christian uprising and probably the fall of Rome. They did not, could not, why?' - because there was no Christian uprising at the time. The Romans could have cared less who Jesus was, this was a tiny religious sect at the time. Why do you think Pilate based his judgement on what the Pharisees asked? This is such a silly argument - how exactly do you think this would have gone down? Who would they have paraded the body for? Who would have recognised the body? By the time Christianity was enough of a nuisance for the Romans to bother worrying about what may or may not have happened to the body, it would have been decades later. And this is presupposing the body was even interned in a tomb.

[@Pauliex33]

@@tenmilesfm so are the celestial bodies in the visible night sky; names for days of the week änd the names for most months of the year were derived from the names of the planets and the Sun in our solar system which were visible to ancient folk with naked eye. in my language there are only two days that are named in a VERY distant relation to any god or deity. more questions?

[@tenmilesfm]

@@Pauliex33 I think you're replying to the wrong person? I'm supporting your position.

[@roymerritt348]

The gospels were written by the men who knew Jesus and worked with Jesus. They were written some 20-50 years after Jesus Ascension.

[@Mghol1968]

Great stuff. Lee Strobels book and the movie were amazing. I use it as a source for a lot of people questioning about Jesus. Love the fact that he was absolutely relentless looking to prove his wife wrong only to become convinced that everything lined up and was accurate.

[@wichitadisciple9874]

Of course Jesus was real. No scholar disagrees.

[@markb3786]

Well that's not entirely true🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Marabarra94]

sure just a guy

[@paulangeloff400]

Not even close to true

[@ronaldmorgan7632]

@@paulangeloff400 Lots of mention about Jesus outside the Bible.

[@paulangeloff400]

@@ronaldmorgan7632 please cite them. Also it doesn’t mean that some scholars disagree

[@dougg1075]

I’m 55 now and I can never remember a time or I didn’t know Jesus Jesus was God. I have never had a doubt.

[@chazaqs9109]

Guess it is time for someone to create doubt. The Hebrew Messiah, whose name was Yahshua (not Jesus), would not have been able to carry out and fulfill the contract written between Yisrael and God (Yah) if he was not in fact a flesh born human of the tribe of Yisrael. AFTER the fulfillment of this contract he was the “First born of the dead”, thus the first person to be resurrected to eternal life because if you fulfilled the contract that was the promise. He was NOT God, yes he is a “mighty one” (Elohim, little-g god), who will be the future king over mankind, but he is not the Father. Anyone who believes or says otherwise are violating the very first commandment.

[@user-mh7ek6ud8e]

@@chazaqs9109 Except for the fact that the old testament never spoke about no 'god'. If you knew hebrew, you would know that. But even if you do not know it, there are plenty of interlinear (hebrew and whatever your language, word for word) translations of the old testament, and when you read those, an entirely different story unfolds. One of a slave owners caste of which 20+ 'elohim' are mentioned by their name in the old testament. To call them 'gods' is to talk utter and absolute nonsense because the word 'el', singular and its plural form 'elohim' are not hebrew words and no one on this planet knows what they mean. From the tone and from the old testament we know that these were not 'divinities' because they are born, they eat, they drink, they sweat, have sex with their own and with little dark-skinned arab chicks, and they die.

[@chazaqs9109]

@@user-mh7ek6ud8e I am more than familiar with Hebrew and the word, ‘Elohim’, which means ‘mighty one’. Elohim is even used in reference to humans, such as kings, so looking at it from the perspective that these are ‘mighty ones’ whom deserve one’s worship is the question at hand. In that respect, the Torah makes no such reference, and only says that one is to be worshipped, YHWH. I use the term ‘God’ only in reference on forums such as this so others can comprehend, as most do not understand Hebrew.

[@user-mh7ek6ud8e]

@@chazaqs9109 "elohim" means NOTHING. "elohhim" is NOT a hebrew word. It is most likely a noun from some other language since it has the suffix denoting male plural. It resolutely does NOT mean "mighty one" since it is plural. And it resolutely means nothinng since it is not a hebrew word.

[@chazaqs9109]

@@user-mh7ek6ud8e So what would you say in regards to this? Is this looked at incorrectly, and if so why? אל (el) אלוה (elo'ah) אלהים (elohiym)

[@chadhouck8167]

What gets me about this video is that I love Joe Rogan. I love his videos and all the amazing guests he has on his podcast. The thing that gets me though, is that he has tons of very intellectual people telling him all sorts of crazy facts and unbelievable things about various topics and he’s always like “whoooaaa” or “that’s crazy” (in a good way)… But every time someone is telling him about Christian facts, he’s so unwilling to accept what they say or has to try to disprove it in his mind. I pray for Joe, because you can tell that he’s mentally fighting the acceptance of it 🙏🏻

[@josephaney]

I just wanted to clarify a couple of things. In the first place, I get the idea of a memorization culture, but that is not to say that the people were illiterate. Reading and writing were taught in the synagogues, just like it is today. Among the Jews, everybody knew how to read and write and everybody was expected to memorize. . Just because the oldest "known" manuscripts have been dated to the third, fourth or seventh centuries does not mean that there were no older manuscripts. There were people who made a living, copying manuscripts. For example, let's say that I have an original manuscript of a book on paper, and it is the only book I have, and I carry it with me and I read it all day, until it wears out, so I take it to the copier, and get a new book and use the old book to start the fire in the stove. I am sure if people looked hard enough, they would find older manuscripts in a place like; Oh, let's say, in Qumran, where they have found manuscripts that date back to the time of the apostles, but the people who control information are not letting those manuscripts be released to the public because they destroy their godless narratives. There are other eyewitness accounts of Jesus Resurrection among the dead sea scrolls that will never see the light of day. The second point I would like to make is that it is not our job to prove Jesus. It is Jesus job to prove himself. How did Jesus prove his resurrection to his disciples. He appeared to them, right? If Jesus appeared to his disciples in ancient times, then he can appear to his disciples in these times. I know that that Jesus is the Christ the son of the Living God and my personal savior because Jesus himself proved himself to me. He has given me undeniable proofs. I have seen his face, heard his voice and felt his touch. He is alive and well and he does visit the earth often, and he is proving himself to the true believers in these days. Jesus is the resurrection an the life. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life Amen

[@CSUnger]

Someone has posted that 62% of Joe Rogan’s guests are outspoken believers.

[@Sphynxs]

but we are not believers in "I read it, or someone said it.." it completely possible that Mauro Biglioni is right, Bible is a book about GODS...or semigods

[@CSUnger]

You do understand, I hope, that most Christians come to Faith FIRST, and only THEN begin to study (not just read) the Bible, right? In other words, we don’t believe because we read about it in a book. Something else propelled our beliefs and then we began to understand its complexity through reading. Right?

[@Masterdebator881]

Believers hate to know.

[@lowrider4886]

So? 98% of Bidens supporters are lost souls. What's the point?

[@tornadochaser1969]

The t shaped cross flying in the sky 1 night before A battle.The battles won...This is how the pagan Rome turned christian in 1 day....true.

[@wenmar3837]

The evidence is everywhere, but like Adam and Eve in the garden, people today want to hide from God...which, of course, is impossible. Praise God, He took me into his family 27 years ago...He knows every sinful thought, word and deed I have ever had...and I am OK with that!

[@queenbeedat8726]

I bought and read this book years ago. It made a believer out of me. Before thst I did not believe. I now know Jesus and the experiences I've had are personal and beautiful.

[@kencoakley8366]

Lee Strobel started writing The Case For Christ as a means of tough love for his wife, who became a Christian. After talking with theologians and skeptics alike, he changed his mind and gave himself over to Jesus. In fact, 2 or 3 of his offspring are pastors. Another interesting Atheist turned Christian is James Warner Wallace. He's a retired police detective with the LAPD. He wrote a cold case book that was supposed to be set during Jesus' time on Earth. He debunked the theory that the apostles made it up. He said that the more people are involved, the conspiracy starts to unravel. I heard the same thing in a Documentary about JFK. Also, 10 of the 12 apostles were martyred except for Judas and John. I never met anyone who was willing to die because of a lie. The reason the Watergate investigation was successful was because participants were singing like canarys when they were threatened with 3 months of jail time.

[@afriendtoleanon3401]

First he is wrong on the dates of the Gospels they were all written first century . no one could ever convince me that a jewish author wrote a book after the temple was destroyed in 70 AD . the temple is one of the most important God things in the old testament . there is no way they didnt mention it ! so the first hand accounts were written by the people who saw the events of Jesus's day . ad the other thing he is wrong about is the old testament scribes didnt know how to write . thats a joke . they were so Perficient at writing that when they wrote a scroll people would come back and count the letters and punctuation . if it was off by 1 it was thrown out and they started over . This ensured the accuracy of the old testament . the Dead sea scrolls prove this fact .

[@voiceofreason162]

Right on both facts. Earliest copies of six New Testament scrolls is AD 68, stored at Qumran. Authors: Luke, Paul and James, Jesus's half-brother.

[@veridicusmaximus6010]

@@voiceofreason162 Wrong!

[@veridicusmaximus6010]

No one knows who wrote the gospels.

[@voiceofreason162]

@veridicusmaximus6010 Papias states that he learned the words of the Apostles from their followers but says that he personally heard Aristion and John the presbyter. He often quotes them by name and includes their traditions in his writings” (Eusebius, Hist. eccl. 3.39.7; trans. Maier, Eusebius, 127). The connection to Peter is also indirectly made by Justin Martyr (c. AD 150), who refers to Mark 3:16 - 17 ( Jesus’ naming of Simon as “Peter,” and James and John as “Sons of Thunder”) as coming from the memoirs of Peter (Dial. 106). For strong defenses of the authenticity of the Papias tradition. Papias (Greek: Παπίας) was a Greek Apostolic Father, Bishop of Hierapolis (modern Pamukkale, Turkey), and author who lived c. 60 - c.130 AD. He wrote the Exposition of the Sayings of the Lord. And elsewhere "For after all those who believed in Christ had generally come to live in Perea, in a city called Pella of the Decapolis of which it is written in the Gospel that it is situated in the neighbourhood of the region of Batanaea and Basanitis, Ebion's preaching originated here after they had moved to this place and had lived there." (AD 66) - Epiphanius, Panarion 30, 2, 7 "So Aquila, while he was in Jerusalem, also saw the disciples of the disciples of the apostles flourishing in the faith and working great signs, healings, and other miracles. For they were such as had come back from the city of Pella to Jerusalem and were living there and teaching. For when the city was about to be taken and destroyed by the Romans, it was revealed in advance to all the disciples by an angel of God that they should remove from the city, as it was going to be completely destroyed. They sojourned as emigrants in Pella, the city above mentioned in Transjordania. And this city is said to be of the Decapolis." (AD 70.) - Epiphanius, On Weights and Measures 15 Though regarded as a Heretic, his testimony does lend credence to existence of the Gospels he sought to "enhance". Spanish Jesuit José O'Callaghan Martínez argued in the 1960s that one fragment (7Q5) preserves a portion of text from the New Testament Gospel of Mark 6:52-53.[59] This theory was scrutinized in the year 2000 by paleographic analysis of the particular fragment. However, this faced some contention, and O'Callaghan's theory remains an area of great dispute. Later analyses in 2004 and 2018 lent credence to O'Callaghan's original assertion. Findings: Qumran fragment 7Q4.1. It contains a portion of Paul’s first letter to Timothy (1 Timothy 3:16-4:3). A Note on Textus Receptus and the Fragments of Cave 7: 7Q4.1 & 7Q4.2 - 1 Timothy 3:16-4:3 7Q5 - Mark 6:52-53 7Q6.1 - Mark 4:28 7Q6.2 - Acts 27:38 7Q7 - Mark 12:17 7Q8 - James 1:23-24 7Q9 - Romans 5:11-12 7Q10 - 2 Peter 1:15 7Q11; 7Q12; 7Q13; 7Q14 7Q15 - Mark 6:48 7Q16; 7Q17; 7Q18 7Q19 - A Commentary on Romans? There is a report on the forensic examination of the fragments. Summary: Gospel of Mark, 2 Peter, James, 1 Timothy, Romans, Acts. I have copies of the archaeological report findings. So... right. We do.

[@veridicusmaximus6010]

@@voiceofreason162 LMAO! I'm going to get to this crap later. All can be classified as hearsay centuries later and very controversial fragments of Greek scripts. I have O'Callaghan's book. 7Q5 is not settled at all and is 18 letters disassociated from each other. All found from cave 7 was less than 20 fragments. 7Q19 is on stone not from a scroll and is "unidentified". 7Q6 is 8 letters. LMAO. Like I said I'll deal with the BS in more detail later. You saying 'scrolls' and acting like we know who wrote the Gospels based on these late and hearsay 'fathers' is laughable!

[@afriendtoleanon3401]

Jesus's enemies agreed He performed miracles on the sabbath ! yes the tombs empty none of the disciples would be tortured for a known lie !

[@CrackedCandy]

In addition, the roman guards abandoned their post at his tomb. This was a capital offense. The angels showed up to let him out and the guards freaked out and fled. But we can know simply by praying and asking the Father, in the name of Jesus.

[@wms72]

No angel had to "let Jesus out". Jesus had already risen before the angel rolled away the stone to let the women see the empty tomb.

[@thewilman11]

I love your comparison of the disciples and a traveling band… we believe that a band can play their playlist or a pianist play for hours straight through…. The human mind is powerful if pushed to its potential. Sadly the majority of us (myself included) don’t come close to its potential.

[@GinnyandCats]

Read or listen to Pilate’s letter describing the death and resurrection of Jesus.

[@tenmilesfm]

Except none of these letters are considered to be authentic and written by Pilate himself.

[@Marabarra94]

that letter is a christian forgery. even the church denies it's real. do some research and don't just believe some fringe youtube channels.

[@Maxtana5]

Those letters are frauds unfortunately as much as I'd like em to be real there are too many inconsistencies

[@Pauliex33]

@@tenmilesfm yep, they're apocryphal, that's why they are not included in the Biblical canon

[@Adirondack1]

It is a very moving detailed heartfelt letter I find to be truth .

[@JohnJohnson-ds2gd]

I just watched the movie. I want to read the actual book now. Another great non-believer to believer book, "The Lost Shipwreck of Paul". 🤗

[@ResurrectionProphet]

I have seen Jesus face-to-face and had him talk to me. Two weeks after that happened the picture of the man who talk to me was on the back of a church wall in McConnellsburg, Pennsylvania,. And when I believed as a child I didn’t need any evidence. He spoke to my heart before I even understood.

[@neildignon3842]

Another aspect supporting veracity of the Disciples is that the more they spoke the Gospel, the more trouble they got into. People lie to get out of rather than into trouble.

[@TheTriplelman]

sorry this guys time element is inaccurate, acts was written in 60 AD thats less than 30 years after Christ Rose from the Dead. (aprox. 34 AD) and if they have copies of Acts written in 60AD - then Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John had to also be written BEFORE THAT - because - Acts or the beginning of the Churches, preached the Gospel. There are over 5,200 Original manuscripts from the 1st century written from EYE witnesses, who walked, talked, ate, and lived with Jesus, while other EYE witnesses of Christs miracles, and life were alive. These EYE witnesses could deny or confirm what the Gospel writers wrote. - thats why it is the MOST historically accurate book ever written, collaboration from hundreds of eye witnesses. - BUY THE WAY, - there was a roman seal on Christ's tomb that warrend EVERYONE break this seal, you die! Aso, 12 Roman Soldiers guarded the tomb. 4 awake on guard, rotating 8 hour shifts. - SO NO ONE "stole" Christs body.

[@plainwhitepaper3898]

I think thousands of years old prophecy coming to fruition, Gives us all the proof we need. Only people are looking back. They are going to slam into a wall, not looking where they are going.

[@Pauliex33]

well said brother. i love how Chris is so passionate to share his thoughts on "the whole Christ is God fairytale" and debunk the nonsensical oral tradition/game of telephone/made up story/conspiracy narrative, but going on Rogan, Maher and all these huge platforms without proper knowledge of what actually happened, and the proper timeframe of these events are unfortunately, imo, more damaging than helpful to get the truth out to the world.. i will save your comment to have a new argument for the authenticity of the Gospels in my arsenal to use in the future, if you don't mind.. :)

[@plainwhitepaper3898]

@@Pauliex33 People debating things from yesterday... A Spiritual mind seeks tomorrow. A new day when the enemy and those who support it are removed. We look for new Kingdoms and earth. Isaiah 65:I7 If you want to know the Truth seek the teachings of Christ. How do we k ow the Bible is True? Matthew 24:25 Because Christ told us before hand. Its bible prophecy which proves its Truth. Not the debate of the history and artifacts. Which are good for those with a carnal mind. I was given these scriptures and question over the last week maybe. On another video I have been debating Father/Christ hybrid. -Jeremiah I:5 before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. -Revelation I0:6 Him who lives forever and ever -Matthew I0:30 the very hairs on your head are numbered. Question; Christ tells them He never knew them. Matthew 7:23 How could Christ not know them, If He is their creating Father? Or was Christ lying? I Corinthians I5:20 Christ was the first resurrected from the dead. Father Elohim lives forever and ever. Is the bible lying and Father Elohim was killed by His the devil? Or Christ is actually the Son. AKA The last created celestial Son in heaven, born of the Spirit, becoming a living immortal soul. REV I2:I,2 Building Revelation I2:5 Tent 2 Corinthians 5:I for we know that if our earthly house, this tent is destroyed, we have a building from Father God a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. A quick Prophecy from Revelation that is coming soon in real time. Revelation I3:I6 Agenda 2030 everything on the planet must be inventoried for sustainable life. PS 2 Peter 3:I0-I2 not such thing as sustainable life in this world.

[@Pauliex33]

​@@plainwhitepaper3898 i'm not sure what exactly to take from your reply, i guess the formatting is messing with my head to put everything into correct context - but yes, seeking the Truth = seeking Christ; unfortutnately it's hard to open peoples' minds with the Word of God, if they refuse to listen/read it themselves due to being convinced that man created God, and not the other way round.. secular-friendly, scientifically sound, logical and historical arguments with proper evidence are important to help people make their first step forward on the right path - that's why i like to save comments like these, they really do help :)

[@david-spliso1928]

We also read that the Holy Spirit gave them remembrance of all the things that had happened.

[@cowboyssawmillandwoodlot6343]

Disclaimer here. This fellow said the gospels were written 100 plus years after Jesus died. Sorry folks. Paul was executed in roughly 64 65 AD. All the other gospels were earlier or same time BECAUSE there is NO mention of the destruction of Jerusalem in the Bible

[@joePARKS]

The phone number example is great

[@doomsick8171]

Ancient writings by the Hebrews BC were not just by word of mouth and memory.

[@sues3218]

Correct, we even have a 2000 year old manuscript that was found on the book of Leviticus. They did BOTH oral and written.

[@petroflorence7962]

The first acount was first acount remember they were all filled whith holyspirit jesus reserection so holyspirit directing them verbaly and the story was told and if need to be interpreted by god

[@Sanford63]

Paul’s letters to Timothy always reinforce my faith.

[@bmom3191]

I love J Warner Wallac’s breakdown of the resurrection-He has a KZbin channel called cold case for Christianity. And he was a solid atheist as well. I’m hoping that Joe Rogan, with all his questions about the Bible are met with some serious answers.

[@rogerbritt7025]

I'm new please pray for my salvation!!!!!!

[@nancystreet6566]

Simply come to Jesus, repent and sincerely ask Jesus to become your personal savior. He has paid for you by His death but you have to come by faith. He won’t force you. You have free Will to ask for Him to save you.

[@kerrythomas6220]

The Kingdom of God is within you. God is within you. Jesus is within you. Salvation is within you. Pray for your own salvation, you don’t need religion to be saved!

[@andrewcrossman2165]

Praying for you

[@kerrythomas6220]

@@andrewcrossman2165 Pray for yourself!

[@SuspiciousActivity871]

The Resurrection is the key to all of Christianity. That is the absolute proof and that’s that.

[@Somewhereoutthere-wf8zx]

I never thought of that in that way. You're right if Jesus was not resurrected there is no Christianity. So in other words the evidence of the resurrection is Christianity.

[@foxmancometh]

There is no proof, none, not a witness, not one record and nobody ever made the claim. You all insist on lying for christ.

[@foxmancometh]

WTF is wrong with you people? If everyone believes a bullshit claim, it does not then become truth. Everyone believing a bullshit claim, without any proof, proves gullibility and a weak personal constitution.

[@ericmckenna4793]

I understand that the resurrection is key, however an empty tomb does not prove the resurrection. In other words nobody never saw Jesus get up and out of the grave. Anything could happen within 3 days for empirical claims needs empirical evidence

[@Somewhereoutthere-wf8zx]

@ericmckenna4793 They didn't see him get out of the grave. But they did say that they saw him ascend into the clouds. They did see him after he died. They said they ate with him, talked with him, and cried with him after his death. The empty tomb is a long piece of circumstantial evidence that these events probably did happen. Empirical claims do not need Empirical evidence. Let's say for example You had a blind friend who was completely blind since birth. He went to a prayer service. After hands were laid on him he was completely healed 5 seconds later. Would you need concrete evidence that prayer healed him? No. That should be enough evidence.

[@Jyanus6465]

I need no proof! Blessed are those who believe without seeing! Joe

[@user-sg5ws7zw5h]

I had a NDE and know Jesus loves me because he tld me so.

[@nikospaleologos3907]

Yes, Alexander the Great had an official historian with him during his expedition, Callisthenes, who was also a grand-nephew of Aristotle. Callisthenes would receive the army's daily journal after it was completed. Other contemporaries who wrote about Alexander's life include: Aristobulus: A junior officer who served on Alexander's campaigns Onesicritus: Alexander's chief helmsman Ptolemy: One of Alexander's generals Nearchus: One of Alexander's generals. I am Orthodox Christian, but this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

[@wms72]

I'm Catholic, and I agree with you. The level of ignorance in the presenter and in these comments is astounding.

[@geneimprov-uc9pr]

Look into Pontius Pilate's letter to Caesar. It is in the Vatican and must be there 100 years in a journal. He entire event is reported to Caesar. The guards said they didn't fall asleep!

[@wms72]

That letter was proven false. The protestant pastor who forged it was judged and punished by a group of fellow pastors and forbidden to be in ministry for at least a year afterwards. The Vatican has nothing to do with it.

[@nonhlanhlancube9527]

The wisdom found in the Bible can not be from an ordinary human mind.

[@jwelchon2416]

Remember the TV show ROOTS. There was a scene where James Earl Jones went to his ancestral village to research Kunta Kinte. He had to sit thru hours listening to the village elder recite the history of the village until he got to the part about Kinte. The story of the village was passed from elder to elder over the decades and each elder memorized it word for word. He could not jump around. He had to start at the beginning a let it rip.

[@Del-Scent]

Christian brothers and sisters, if you have not seen Voddie Baucham's message , " Why I Choose to Believe the Bible." Available here on youtube. Great apologetic message.

[@Lorijay851]

All Glory To God! Show me Lord. 🙇🏻‍♀️🙏🏼✝️📖❤️‍🔥

[@denisejustdenise]

Chris Distefano was also a guest on Bill Maher's Club Random, available on this platform. "The wicked flee when no one pursues but the righteous are bold as a lion."

[@aarong8457]

The time frame he's using for when they were written is based on the fact that secular historians refuse to admit that Jesus predicted the destruction of the temple so according to them they had to be written after 70ad. That's all. There's evidence they were written before, especially Mark.

[@2011hib]

Yes! I thought that about oral tradition as well. They are not just telling stories randomly, each story is like a song or a poem. It has a specific set of words repeated specifically the same all the time. I think I read that oral tradition is one of the most reliable ways of passing on culture

[@prometheus9096]

Aborigines have done that for thousands of years. They can for e.g. tell which islands around Australia where once connected to the mainland. Science confirmed they are right.

[@saigurunet]

Believing that Jesus was real is not the same as believing that everything we read in the Bible was real.

[@reedndeed]

I think it’s the same. In the beginning was the “WORD”. We read words.

[@dianewarner7505]

God is not a fool he would not allow a lie be in his book

[@saigurunet]

@@reedndeed John's Gospel was written in old Greek. It is used the word "LOGOS" there not "word". LOGOS is much more that just a "word".

[@saigurunet]

@@dianewarner7505 In the Bible there are letters which were written by Paul. Paul was a man. It is normal for a man to make mistakes. That is why some mistakes made by Paul can be found in the Bible.

[@reedndeed]

@@saigurunet a word, a statement, a thing, or in this case the mystical item that is simultaneously or potentially all of those.

[@kingbubba8520]

Alright got another good Christian KZbinr to watch. Keep up the great content. God Bless.

[@henrygoboy8621]

good to hear a not so polished guy just speaking sense. getting past all of the smoke that holds us back and having the guts to say what you think.

[@coraliemoller3896]

Oral history was the way tribes told the later generations about battles won, heroes and villains, enemies, medical remedies, hunting strategies, etc. Pictographs, chants and dances captured the details of an historical event to pass on from one generation to the next. Writing was a novel skill acquired by a few to record those oral stories when they were important. Still some tribes exist that only use memorisation of oral traditions as their history today. Australian aborigines and New Guinea tribes only recently have borrowed script from English to record their oral history as there are fewer speakers of some native languages and the historical tales will be lost once the speakers are gone.

[@Andrew66632]

This a healthy discussion-oracle debate between two rational people who don’t believe the same thing. No defaulting to emotions just rooted in logic. That’s respect for one another.

[@thesupersquirrel100]

can you please review the Moroccanagels videos

[@ivankrushensky]

I always find it fascinating how non-believers so quickly question the legitimacy of any history related to the Bible, but the exact same people have no problem thinking of ancient Egyptian, Greek and Roman history as infallible. If you're questioning one- you should question them all.

[@TeranRealtor]

You NAILED it with the explanation that a band can play - many years later - a song they learned or wrote long ago, BECAUSE they played it over and over during all those years.

[@jtalley8191]

Play the game of telephone but instead of just saying the phrase once, you would ensure the phrase is accurately memorized before passing on to the next person and then repeat. If you play it that way, the phrase will be repeated accurately.

[@michaelscarlino1590]

Excellent description, 👏

[@wilsontheconqueror8101]

The Gospels of Matthew Mark,Luke & John were written within 40 years of Christ life. Mark may even be closer to 30 years.

[@squeaksohko5863]

I really like this explanation on how it wasn't a game of telephone. I've heard this argument before, and I've heard explanations similar to this but never quite articulated this way. It was always more, "these people had such a strong faith that they would take great care to ensure the message was relayed accurately and with integrity" .. though that's probably true, i feel like that's not a great way to say it, neither do i think it's convincing enough for an unbeliever. I like it explained in the video this way, and i like how you compared it to a traveling comedian and tour bands/ cover bands. That's something people can understand and find a better perspective with.

[@anoniukas]

The last Gospel was written in not more, than 70 years after the death of Jesus. This is what the newest archeological findings prooves us.

[@timothyvenable3336]

Just to add to that, Jesus spoke to so many people. If the disciples started saying other things, someone would have said “hey that’s not what Jesus said” or something. So many people have heard the message that if it changed, someone would have said soemthing

[@timothym2241]

The epistles predate the earliest written gospels, and confirm the beliefs of the apostles and early church.

[@Gambit22003]

Great point, and great vid! "Memorization Culture". I'll remember that in my daily mission of spreading His Gospel. ❤

[@annabambus6572]

More and more archeological findings are backing up the historical accuracy of the Bible. Some in the format of cold cases due to now incredibly more advanced technology and techniques in this field. Fascinating. Enjoy this journey of exploring. Always wanting to find out more 🎉🎉🎉

[@Mrs.Patriot]

There is a channel here on YT that reads copies of original writings from that time. One in particular is Pontius Pilate's official account of Jesus' trial and crucifixion that he wrote for Caesar. It totally matches up with what's in the gospels.

[@wms72]

That letter was proven false. The protestant pastor who forged it was judged and punished by a group of fellow pastors and forbidden to be in ministry for at least a year afterwards.

[@Mrs.Patriot]

@@wms72 Thank you. Do you know the name of the pastor or the channel, so I can read more about it? I remember it being a woman who was reading it.

[@johncostello2948]

Even though Joe is a non-believer, at least he is a very good interviewer and addresses the fantastical aspects of the story of Jesus, which many of us want to know about to solidify our faith. When he interviews sources to answer our questions, he helps draw many people closer to Christ.

[@JohnSmith-vw2zd]

The better book is (person of interest, why Jesus still matters in a world that rejects the Bible by J Warner Wallace)

[@Nick9Three]

Nah, i’m good. I stopped believing in fairy tales when I found out Santa Clause wasn’t real.

[@TalentedMisterHeat8]

As someone who believes in Jesus Christ and his message, I still find it sad that most people argument for him are based in opinion and bias not actual evidence

[@thankyoulorification]

the chain of reputable references like Josephus down to the history books. 500 witnesses all the way down to josephuses time

[@veridicusmaximus6010]

[@america1st277]

Awesome book ! Strobel does all the digging and hard research for you.

[@reeblesnarfle4519]

Thanks for the Fresh Air....❤😎👍

[@calebstone22]

“Telephone” is about teaching kids about how rumors work. Purposely designed to get bad communication. Basic checks and balances make that ridiculous on it’s face

[@CotyWhite-jm2ot]

Joe Rogan has come a long way, but I still feel he scrutinizes the Bible more harshly than other things on his show that are way more far fetched. He’s more open minded to the possibility of aliens than god.

[@blakemoon123]

The other thing is that everyone knows that the secret AIM of the telephone game is to screw up the trivial message. But people in oral cultures are not playing games. They are deadly earnest in memorising the important knowledge of their culture.

[@dametriesemcphie7800]

The key word for the game Telephone to work correctly is the word "whisper". The gospel was not whispered nor was the Old testament. It was shouted and spread loudly

[@MrMark-hm9lk]

How many 40+ people can tell me about little red Riding Hood, three blind mice, Humpty Dumpty, the boy who cried wolf, etc, etc? And we haven't read them in years. Joe imagine if we kept studying it

[@MartinMukatha]

You forget that Matthew, Philip,Thomas were the scribes 🧐 and wrote down accounts of the teachings and events.