The Booster Pass Is NOT Actually Solved

Honestly, I was not planning on making any more videos about this subject because Wave 6 seemed really obvious. It's not that I am just trying to make something up for content. But I thought about the idea of this really being solved. If I were to be wrong about something after I told everyone how it was going to be, I would be mad at myself. And then I saw the path toward an alternative solution for Nintendo. A sneaky, unpredictable route that was left open. BC3 or not, I will not allow a world where they fooled everyone to happen. Let's talk about a potential last surprise.
0:00 A Wave 6 Conspiracy Theory
1:28 What Tracks are Safe?
2:57 Is it actually?
5:42 What are the Alternatives?
8:46 Hard Reads
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♪ Last Surprise
Outro: • Sweet, Sweet Victory (...

[@rcdr898]

I had never checked out the Tour remake of BC4 until this video, and DAMN is it a stunning track. Definitely would like to see it in Wave 6 instead of BC3 or Airship. And I agree with your city placements, as well as your Piranha Plant track placements. It will never not be funny to me that Wave 6 is getting 2 Piranha Plant tracks which probably have less than 10 piranha plants combined but whatever. Great predictions, we shall see what happens!

[@ShnoodleMc]

I know 100% that Wuhu Loop will not be in the DLC, it doesnt make sense whatsoever. ... But I still want it so, so much

[@NoctarYT]

It would be so epic if they put it in place as a city track

[@rustyshackleford234]

Wuhu loop, wario’s colosseum, double dash’s rainbow road, and toad’s factory are a bunch of tracks that I kinda wanted in the BCP. But… I can’t complain as they’ve given me almost ALL of my favorite tracks lmao

[@ComedySpike]

If Nintendo planned to drop AF this whole time but delayed it and has us speculate it to be another track, I'd die.

[@chrisp5148]

I like what you did at the end by leaving it up to speculation. Don’t let the discussion fade out!! Looking forward to your Wave 6 reaction, and everything up until then.

[@robymammon610]

If Bowser Castle 4 does get into Wave 6, it would be the first time a Mario Kart Super Circuit Special Cup track has appeared in any future subsequent title other than Tour.

[@HDRookie]

If I'm not mistaken, it's the last cup to never have a returning course as well.

[@robymammon610]

@@HDRookie You are correct

[@biondigiacomo7176]

Mario Kart Tour?

[@Avriel_Mimiga]

@@biondigiacomo7176 did you not read the full comment?

[@biondigiacomo7176]

@@Avriel_Mimiga i probably didn't. Sorry. It still doesn't explain why people just refuse its existance

[@SaulTeeNutz]

Here’s what I’m thinking as of typing this comment: We’re most definitely gonna be getting two Wii tracks again like with wave 5, replacing GCN Mushroom Bridge. Wii Rainbow Road has been the obvious finale to the entire dlc ever since its remake in tour, due to that track getting the single best remake in the entire game by far. I feel like SNES Bowser Castle 3 was definitely made with the booster course pass in mind, due that that angled part of the track near the beginning of the track, which is perfect for anti-gravity. As for the rest of the wave, the cities are obviously guaranteed, but I’m kind of optimistic about two of the Piranha Plant nitro courses being in the game, but that’s just me. GCN DK Mountain I would absolutely LOVE to see the track return, but that’s just my Wii nostalgia talking for me.

[@thatfroggyguy]

I'm a big mushroom bridge fan :(

[@militor_207]

I feel like ppl shouldn't automatically assume bc3 is gonna be in mk8 just cuz of one U turn that could be anti gravity

[@MYSTmke]

​@militor_207 we haven't had a single bowser castle, it looks like and plays like it was made for 8, and it's that or... vanilla lake or some shit.

[@pokemaniac9001]

...They turned it into a section track, Chief. I wouldn't call that "the best", certainly not "by far".

[@SaulTeeNutz]

@@pokemaniac9001 that was only for tour, due to how slow the game actually is. It looked way too over scaled and would’ve been very long. They only split it into two sections because again, as mentioned previously, the game is way too slow. Wii Rainbow Road had one of “the best” remakes in the entire series “by far” with how much effort they put into into it, same with SNES Bowser Castle 3. They didn’t go _that_ hard with their remakes only for one of them to be replaced for an over glorified shroom ridge (GCN Mushroom Bridge).

[@IanJulian02]

I have actually been saying this since I saw GBA BC4. It’s too polished. It looks fantastic, and I would be more hyped over it than SNES BC3! I was a big believer in Rosalina’s Ice World takin over the final GCN, but seeing how the most recent tour remakes get a lot of preference, I do believe BC4 really has a chance!

[@sladelucas5531]

Same, it felt impossible that this course could exist without it being a BCP course. And like, it feels especially weird that every other GBA Bowser Castle was remade using BC1 as a base, including RMX Bowser Castle, and yet BC4 got a full remake. Not just that but a remake they barely marketed on its debut Tour despite it clearly being the higher effort remake. It feels like the Tour addition of BC3 was meant to be it's time to shine, a massive return of the one Super Mario Kart theme that had gone completely unused since Super Circuit, and they were saving the GBA BC4 fanfare for the BCP.

[@vroom0925]

Bold prediction! Another thing that supports your theory is that when BC4 was released, people noticed there were three stars instead of two on the design of the banner where lap two starts (since BC4 is long and split into two). Could that have potentially meant it may be split into three sections? Is it even that big to fit in three sections? Great video as always!

[@SB2749]

It's not. They did that to fit with Tour's 2 lap model as the track would otherwise be too long for that game. They did the same thing to Wii Rainbow Road where they also made it a 2-lap section track

[@De_an]

I might be the only person in the world that wants BC3 over BC4, because like, the SNES tracks deserve at least one win. It's about time they became something more than the "filler" courses.

[@SB2749]

Make that two, I've always wanted them to actually try with a SNES track remake and they've finally done it. It helps that the Tour remake is actually pretty fun in that game

[@FireSonicYT]

i honestly agree. SNES never had a bowser's castle remade yet outside of tour, while GBA had 3 of them as retros.

[@Alatorre05]

I wouldn't be too sure about those Piranha Plant nitros. On one hand sure we haven't missed a tour nitro yet, but on the other they'd be filling in the two blank slots in Wave 6 meaning they were always meant to be in the same wave together and that they were always meant to be in the final wave. I guess it's subjective, but personally i don't think either of these tracks garner as much hype as Yoshi's Island or Squeaky Clean Sprint did, so it's weird for them to have always been planned to follow those up. And I don't see why they would both be planned to come in a wave that's already lacking in variety with it doubling in Wii tracks as well (Remember even before Daisy Circuit, Maple was planned to be there with Wii RR). Not to mention that'd mean they consciously made the decision to put Petey in Wave 5 knowing there were two Piranha Plant tracks in Wave 6. Realistically, I'd still bet on them coming but it's something to think about is all. I think SNES BC3 is safe tho, that one section is screaming anti gravity I just cant imagine them not adding it.

[@HDRookie]

Conversely, They can't add both BCs. But both feel designed for MK8. We have to give the SNES one the advantage because of the prefix leak, but Nintendo is weird. PPP is called Pipe Canyon in Japan fwiw, so they may not classify them identically. Thematically they're pretty different.

[@shadeblackwolf1508]

I do think at this point it's a coin flip which bowser's castle stage makes it in and that's exciting

[@HDRookie]

Probably a weighted coin, but yeah

[@natk205]

Wave 6 could either be the most predictable wave thanks to Tour ending soon, or it could throw another curveball straight into our balls like it did with Daisy Circuit.

[@noahnovemm108]

GCN rainbow road is coming to wave 6

[@yang6642]

@@noahnovemm108It’s really not

[@noahnovemm108]

@@yang6642 we will see at the wave 6

[@yang6642]

@@noahnovemm108 Nothing to see, it didn’t come to Tour so it has no chance, Tour’s time for new content has ran out

[@noahnovemm108]

@@yang6642 GCN rainbow road is coming to wave 6 for the 20 years of Mario kart double dash, we will see at the wave 6 !!!

[@FidGame450]

I was thinking over this topic and just remembered a theory I saw earlier this year. I don’t know how widespread this is, but I’m making a separate comment on it anyway. This doesn’t involve any datamines, btw. If you take a look at all the retro Mario Circuits, Bowser’s Castles, and Rainbow Roads in Tour, a pattern emerges. All of them either appeared in 7 (SNES MC2 and RR, GBA BC1 and 3DS MC, BC and RR) or are a variant of the one that appeared in 7 (SNES MC 1 and 3, N64 MR and GBA BC 2-4). All except for three: SNES BC3, DS MC, and Wii RR. When you take a closer look, you also realize some things. They all are strangely well detailed for a Tour track, they aren’t the best controlling in Tour (Wii RR is the most prevalent), they have assets that aren’t used in any other track there, SNES BC3 and DS MC are all totally revamped in a way, SNES BC3 and Wii RR even have potential anti-gravity sections when Nintendo tries to stay away from that stuff in Tour. So why do they even exist in Tour? Unless, they were being made specifically for 8DX. Then everything I just mentioned would totally make sense. This is something to think about, especially since DS MC is already in… Of course, things can change during development. Who knows, maybe BC3 got scrapped before the Tour remake even released, but they released that anyway because it was too far along in development, or maybe these three tracks were the only tracks aside from the Tour ones to be a lock for the BCP and cannot be replaced, or maybe I’m overthinking everything and this is all just one big coincidence. Who knows. We’ll just have to wait and see…

[@AcetylCoA605]

I'm wondering if, like the characters, there will be a hidden "Bowser Cup" explaining why we don't have any Bowser courses, and will include BC3, BC4, 3DS BC, and Airship Fortress or Luigi's Mansion

[@HDRookie]

A favorite theory for me is that there's a secret cup unlocked by beating all the other cups, totalling the game at 100 tracks.

[@JohnSmith12648]

You know, I think this is possible, it would also make it so that every wave has a Wii and GBA course in it which is something they wanted to do with Wii but randomly leave one wave without a GBA course, also SNES Bowser Castle 3 is a short course and GBA Bowser’s Castle 4 is a lot longer, also in Tour the mechakoopas from the course are not there since mechakoopas aren’t in tours files and also the possible reason the course never got its T or R/T variants, perhaps they will include them for the 8DX version since mechakoopas are in this game

[@eeveeprotect3004]

Before the outlandish predictions I felt like GBA BC3 or BC4 with airship fortress could work out. But eh hard to say if that would even have a chance on happening. But eitherway looking forward for tracks we are getting.

[@mailpaper7754]

BC4 would definitely be the better option track wise, but I still hope BC3 gets in. It’s the only SNES remake to get a proper glow up instead of just visual changes and it’d suck for that remake to eventually die out once Tour does shutdown. BC4 is definitely a better track, but SNES deserves a fantastic remake to get in.

[@Gabezcube]

It has been a tricky war on which retro track will be in or if a dd track has been replaced. It's hard for me to decide which side to be on. Of course tour ogs & cities are guaranteed. And now with daisy circuit revealed, there's only 3 retros left, & it can go either way depending on whose side you're on I for sure think that something unexpected is going to happen in w6. Every wave has had a unexpected surprise after 1. 2 with snow land, 3 got maple treeway early, 4 got ds mario circuit, & 5 got moonview highway. So something's for sure up that we don't know about with w6. I know most have already decided on what will show up in w6 because of pfx leak & what goes where, but this is nintendo. They've always done the unexpected every wave, & we'll never know until w6 is completely revealed

[@noahnovemm108]

GCN rainbow road is coming to wave 6

[@cheesy2929]

Remember the thin pillar roads you could jump on after the first jump in Athens Dash? In Tour there were 3 I think and they reduced them to 2 and made them wider. Well, the walls on Snes BC3 also look too thin for MK8DX. I always thought that part wouldnt play well on MK8DX

[@YellowMindset]

Wario Colosseum confirmed 👌 🙌

[@chucke.cheese2212]

Yeah and a new course “Diddy Kong’s Pancake” is coming to Wave 6.

[@WritingCountingOriginal]

No. It’s not in Tour so it’s never coming to wave 6.

[@wryglitter4186]

@@chucke.cheese2212 and don’t forget about Funky’s Flight School,You literally drive in a airport but it’s way better than Sunshine Airport

[@wonkthedonk]

​@@WritingCountingOriginaland " Paulines Puberty lesson" where you drive around a school.

[@WritingCountingOriginal]

@@wonkthedonk what the fuck?

[@deci2002]

This whole time when I thought people were talking about SNES BC3, I was picturing GBA BC4 in my head. That's how unfamiliar I am with the tour remasters, but now that I actually see the two different tracks, I want what I was picturing all along. GBA BC4 would be so cool in wave 6

[@Riodile]

You raised some good points there about GBA Bowser's Castle 4 possibly being in in exchange of SNES Bowser's Castle 3. Besides Wii, GBA have been getting a lot of love from BCP. It'll be nice if they include BC4 instead of BC3. And IMO, it could solve the placement of the courses for Wave 6. If we were to assume GBA Bowser's Castle 4 to be added instead of SNES Bowser's Castle 3, these would be my course placement for Wave 6: Acorn Cup * Tour Rome Avanti * Wii Daisy Circuit * GCN DK Mountain / Dino Dino Jungle * Piranha Plant Cove Spiny Cup * Tour Madrid Drive * Piranha Plant Pipeline * GBA Bowser's Castle 4 * Wii Rainbow Road I'm putting it like this because Cove feels too long to be put in the middle, yet Pipeline feels anti-climactic if it's before Wii RR. GBA Bowser's Castle 4 would solve all of that dilemma in one go.

[@zacharylandrum4789]

Love that you used Last Surprise from Persona 5 throughout the video, it felt strangely fitting to hear during the discussion.

[@PixelShiftss]

Honestly we should’ve had both Bc3 and BC4, I didn’t even realize that MK64 MKDD MK8/DX all shared the fact of lacking Bowser castles, 8DX obviously being the least justified. BC3 should’ve been in Over MC3 let’s be real, put Rock Rock Mountain in place of MC3 in wave 2, and put BC3 in moon cup right before 3DS RR, move peach gardens back to the rock cup like it was intended and have BC4 in wave 6. Boom perfect scenario.

[@HDRookie]

Definitely want to make a "fixing the Booster Pass" video when it's all said and done

[@abbyzies]

Is there any possibility for the final track to be GCN or GBA Rainbow Road instead of Wii? Mostly everyone I've watched hasn't even given a mention to GCN Rainbow Road, but because Daisy Circuit has been announced (and if I'm right wasn't there only one Wii track expected?) I was wondering if a different game's Rainbow Road is what to expect.

[@HDRookie]

Almost zero. Would be a truly incomprehensible twist.

[@FireSonicYT]

every track in the BCP is in tour, so there's basically no chance for them, since tour won't have any more new content.

[@BanksHicks]

I’ve been making this prediction for a while and everyone I know calls it outrageous. Nice to know that others have the same mindset!

[@HDRookie]

It is outrageous, and that might just be why it's the perfect solution

[@jasperstuart5745]

@@HDRookie,Because There are 2 Pipe themed Nitro Tracks left,it would be More fitting to add GCN Mushroom Bridge due to the fact there’s a Green warp pipe at the Begin of the course in the original GameCube version,so Nintendo should Make this Choice & Mushrooms are Fall/autumn season Veggies/Healthy Food therefore I Know for sure Nintendo throw this track as a Curveball just like Wii Moonview Highway in wave 6

[@XPGrindDeathking]

​​@@jasperstuart5745 The tour version doesn't have the pipe anymore, also putting it in either means Rainbow Road or 1 of 2 better GCN tracks isn't coming which I doubt. And getting rid of a Bowser Castle track for all 3 in wave 6 also sounds pretty stupid.

[@koopaperson101]

​@@jasperstuart5745Nah dawg you reaching 😭

[@GregTP]

DD fans doing the worst takes ever

[@wes186]

If I get to hear a MK8D remix of the GBA Bowser's Castle theme I would be so happy.

[@squidkid419]

I honestly hate sunset wilds in mk8. I don’t hate any other tracks, idk, it just feels not like sunset wilds at all, there’s no sunset, idk why they added it if they couldn’t do the sunset. I guess all I can do is hope they’ll figure it out and fix it along with the patch for wave 6

[@skymixel]

It'd be interesting for GBA Bowser Castle 4 to come to the game instead of SNES Bowser Castle 3, yet I do think the latter has more of a chance, considering it's the only SNES course in Tour with a massive overhaul. Also, if your curious on my other Wave 6 opinions, my thoughts on the GCN jungle course would be DK Mountain, due to how iconic it is; for the final two non-city Tour nitro courses, Piranha Plant Pipeline would be at the Acorn Cup, and Piranha Plant Cove would be in the Spiny Cup; and for the Tour cities, I'm placing my bets on Madrid Drive on Acorn Cup, and Rome Avanti in Spiny Cup.

[@noahnovemm108]

GCN rainbow road is coming to wave 6

[@cheesy2929]

@@noahnovemm108 Lol, give up

[@noahnovemm108]

@@cheesy2929 we will see at the wave 6

[@sladelucas5531]

I am so glad I am not the only person theorising this. That said, I think really there are a bunch of different possibilities for what could happen. Obviously the first is the Bowser Castle swap, which I think is the most likely scenario if things are changed. Wii Roanbow Road is assumed to be a lock but is it really? Like, Daisy Circuit being our wave 6 Wii course is still a very real possibility. Considering how far out from release those original prefixes were, and the fact that they were not meant to be seen by us, it is more than possible that the last wave wasn't entirely fully formed and the actual course order in that wave didn't mean anything. Additionally, Airship Fortress absolutely could have been swapped in for it. On balance, Fortress is the more popular course so I could see it. We can probbaly still be sure that either Dino Dino or DK Jungle will appear, but we don't know which one it will be. Mushroom Bridge looks to have been replaced, but we can't say for sure. Even Piranha Plant Pipeline I think is potentially not a lock. People take for granted that all the Tour courses will be added but is that really necessary? After all, of preserving the courses is the goal, they have completely neglected the RMX courses. So it clearly isn't their utmost concern. And it would actually make a lot of sense for them to want to have at least one Tour course for the next game. It may be that this course wasn't going to be ready in time to be added to the BCP thanks to hope late it was added to Tour so they replaced it with something else. So Pipeline being replaced actually like it could happen. I also think Frappe Snowland is not considered a possibility nearly enough. Why the heck was this course added to Tour when it isn't that popular and it would have to be fully remake rather than ported from 7 or built off the bones of another? Plus it is winter themed. It has a decent chance of swapping in for soemthing else. I am not saying any of these Sr likely, but I do think it is more likely than not that at least one of these will happen.

[@HDRookie]

I think the thing with Wii RR is different. It showed that they had an intent to end wave 3 and 6 with a Rainbow Road. That's the type of intention that you build the Pass around, not replace

[@sladelucas5531]

@@HDRookie we are assuming that based on he breadcrumbs we have but we don't really know. And like, does it really make sense for them to have two Wii courses in two waves in a row? Like, people think Mushroom Bridge is being replaced because having two traffic courses in back to back waves seems farfetched, but don't even consider questioning having four Wii courses in two waves?

[@HDRookie]

We can't ever know for certain, but logically speaking, 3DS RR just makes no sense as a Wave 3 closer makes no sense if the last slot isn't Wii RR. Like, zero.

[@sladelucas5531]

@@HDRookie but my point is that I don't think 3DS Rainbow Road makes much sense as the closer for wave 3 even IF Wii Rainbow Road is the closer. Why would they ever plan this whole thing out, but plan for their most popular Rainbow Road to be the midway course, and their second most popular to be their finisher. That just doesn't feel all that logical from a planning perspective. The only real way to top what they did in wave 3 is by including a course more popular than 3DS Rainbow Road. With pretty much every other likely candidate, Like Waluigi Pinball and Maple Treeway, already gone, Airship Fortress is the prime candidate. In the end it probbaly will be Wii Rainbow Road, but actually trying to consider the mindset behind the developers she making this pass, Wii Rainbow Road doesn't make as much sense as people seem to think.

[@HDRookie]

@sladelucas5531 Bringing the more popular courses earlier makes sense. You get more people on the fence early to cave. The recent waves have been more solid imo but have been lacking the fan favorite element the first 3 waves had. I think this was intentional design. People will still be happy to see Wii RR and find it to be a fitting conclusion I reckon.

[@SB2749]

Well, a curveball certainly happened, but not the way we thought it'd be

[@chedder_chandlure4363]

After finishing this video I watched some footage of BC4 and damn... I think I would prefer it over the snes one.

[@Jetliner]

8:54 that banana was wild

[@vengeance6801]

I'll be brutally honest I don't watch your content because it's just where I find peak entertainment, but I watch you because you know what you're talking about as opposed to these other bcp "speculators" (they literally just explain their wishlist)

[@HDRookie]

Well, we all have different tastes. If I am a good resource for you and nothing more, I'm glad that I can be a positive in some way. I do think I am slightly different in how I approach these topics I suppose. I think a common error that many make is taking leaks too literally. There has been a lot of evidence to suggest why certain decisions are being made, and many people seem to ignore the clues/hints. The prefix leak has been debunked for months now, and people still see it as infallible, strangely.

[@vengeance6801]

oh my god no I just realised how mean my comment sounded, you're entertaining with how you present your videos is what I was supposed to say. You take into account that this whole bcp leak thing happened about a year ago and obviously things were going to change in the long run (as we've already seen). You give tour its credit which not a lot of other content creators do as well as referring to tour for extra analysis and data. You're also not repeating the same things just reworded every 10 seconds so I appreciate that as well. As a genuine viewer and consumer of this booster course pass topic, I can safely say you know what you're talking about and you don't bore anyone. You're awesome

[@eeveeprotect3004]

@@HDRookie I'm most likely one of these people rip. All I can see is that I don't want to be bias on one side, I rather keep in mind on both moving away from the prefix leak itself and feeling I have to use common sense sense here on not following it and simply following the prefix leak to the very end not having common sense. I rather take both into account because they both have their reasons to suggest it happening that People are looking into. I'm simply applying both to just helps me see the full picture that I felt people just wants to ignore one of those sides and be bias for that side only. Which I feel is off putting. I rather be prepared for both the good ending or bad ending for the bcp. Good ending with Wii Rainbow Road and SNES Bowser Castle 3 making the cut or bad ending only getting one of those or neither of those. It just helps me analyzing this whole alot to be honest. Plus its kind of fun in a way too tho.

[@UltiMachina]

My Wave 6 Track Predictions: Acorn Cup: Tour: Rome Avanti Wii: Daisy Circuit GCN: DK Mountain Tour: Pirahna Plant Cove Blue Shell Cup: Tour: Madrid Drive Tour: Pirahna Plant Pipeline SNES: BC 3 Wii: Rainbow Road Grand Star Cup: 3DS: Rosalina's Ice World GCN: Dino Dino Jungle DS: Airship Fortress ?: GP Rainbow Downhill + Coaster or Dreamland from Kirby I have no idea what the grand final track could possibly be, but these two options would truly be amazing for the final track. I am also thinking of a third final cup to make up for 100 tracks and you'd need to unlock this cup by unlocking all three stars for each BCP track in that CCC. Sorry Toad's Factory :(

[@HDRookie]

No winter course in Wave 6 with 2 cups makes me really think the extra cup could be possible

[@UltiMachina]

Agreed so it's best it would be put in the hypothetical secret cup

[@JKV2500]

@@UltiMachinaI just have a thought, for an extra cup maybe have Cove be the first spot, since it’s kinda like a city. You could disagree though.

[@DavidMalcolm]

I'm hoping they do wave six with the two promised cups... and then add six more for a whole extra row and put in all those tour remakes that can't fit in. No city courses on top of them or anything, don't even have to make them fancy. Just throw in Yoshi Desert, Rosalina's Ice World, etc.

[@El_Omar2203]

Crazy prediction that I'm not really following, just throwing out: - Wii Daisy Circuit is the actual last MKW track and Wave 6 is finishing the Spiny Cup with GBA Bowser's Castle 4, while SNES Bowser Castle 3 stays in Acorn Cup.

[@HDRookie]

That is a madman level prediction I think. But you never know with Nintendo

[@Peppizza73]

My problem with your theory is that (GBA) Bowser's Castle 4 isn't a hype up track. Every final track in the cup that isn't a Tour or Nitro track is always the hype up tracks like (Wii) Coconut Mall or (DS) Waluigi Pinball. If the third track is next to a Tour or Nitro track, then it is the hype up track like (GCN) Waluigi Stadium or (Wii) Moonview Highway.

[@natedawg19]

Ever since Moonview Highway and Daisy Circuit’s introduction in 8 DX, I stopped believing in the datamine leaks. But I am mostly confident that it is still SNES BC 3 in 8 DX and not GBA BC 4. If it is BC 4, I won’t be that surprised because it is such a massive glow up, but they [Nintendo] would miss out on anti-gravity potential on SNES BC 3 in W6. If Wave 6 DOESN’T bring SNES BC 3, there is potential of a new Mario Kart game (if there is one). But in all fairness, as long Wii Rainbow Road is in 8 DX, I’m happy (also happy for Daisy Circuit considering I am part Daisy-Stan)

[@senorlock5128]

I feel like GCN DK Mountain could be cut. Remember that every course in the pass that has anti gravity NEEDS it to work correctly. I imagine they could've possibly planned it but the collision of the road ended up being a nightmare. GBA BC4 is such a strange late addition to Tour that *for some reason* didn't even get a T or R/T version before the game shut down. The only course to do that, btw. I also think it's weird how they revealed Daisy circuit first instead of Piranha plant cove almost like they know we knew about the leaks.

[@HDRookie]

I just can't see them only going with 2 GCN tracks. Maybe they'd pivot to Dino Dino Jungle

[@topherpetrole1136]

It has to be SNES BC3 in Wave 6 since there is one last SNES placement and has to come now in this wave and I think they'd save GBA BC4 for the next Mario Kart game.

[@HDRookie]

We expected 2 SNES courses. This does not necessarily mean we we will get 2.

[@topherpetrole1136]

We already got the first one back in wave 2. We still need the 2nd one which should be BC3

[@fedoratheexplorar2143]

I am the only person in the world REALLY clammering for Shy Guy Bazaar to be in the final pack.

[@HDRookie]

It probably should've been in

[@Pokemichael]

Honestly it’s nice to see somebody else still speculating even after the Daisy circuit reveal. I’m in the same boat. The only course I could see getting replaced is snes bc3, and only by gba bc4; but I’d be happy with either of them.

[@battleworld2457]

I think there is a chance for GBA BC4 yeah, and for me it's a lot better to have this than SNES BC3. But I have an even crazier theory ? And if we have a bonus cup ? To end with exactly 100 tracks ? SNES BC3 would be in wave 6 vanilla, with the 7 others, and we have a bonus cup with 4 extra tracks, 4 tracks between GBA BC4 / Airship Fortress / 3DS BC / Lakeside Park / Mario Raceway / Peach Circuit / Luigi Circuit / Desert Yoshi / Dry Dry Ruins for example ? To avoid repeat of musics (so no Lakeside or Peach Circuit or Luigi Circuit or Mario Raceway, even if Waluigi Pinball breaks this theory but whatever), maybe a secret cup would end like this : Dry Dry Ruins / Airship Fortress / 3DS BC / GBA BC4 ! Dry Dry Ruins is very appreciated in Wii tracks and has a cool remake in Tour recently, Airship Fortress is a fan favorite with a Bowser theme track, 3DS BC and GBA BC4 would fix the lack of BC in the game and are very cool tracks too ! Maybe we can even call this cup the Bowser cup because a lot of Bowser presence in it (and impossible to have a RR cup with only RR Wii still in Tour, and probably added in wave 6) ! Or maybe Lakeside instead of Dry Dry Ruins to have an other apocalyptic track in this "Bowser cup" ? With a reorganisation of the cups selection, maybe five lines of 5 cups in one menu instead of two menus of 12 cups ?

[@HDRookie]

Secret cup would be cool. Also, Riverside and Lakeside have distinct themes, so your theory is intact if it makes it.

[@AWMonopolyMan]

Here’s the thing that blows your entire theory out of the water, Moonview didn’t replace a GCN track, its Course ID was Cnsw_63 (the Tour Nitro that never was), meaning unless something else gets replaced, Wii Daisy Circuit is our actual last Wii track from the old prefixes, leaving the 2 GCN tracks and an SNES track as the unknowns

[@AWMonopolyMan]

@@comfy88338 Considering everything else has been shuffled and only 1 actual prefix was changed (unlike this guy claiming they cut a GCN track for Wave 5 even though they didn’t), I rather wait instead of saying anything is certain in terms of Wii Rainbow Road, that track is in question right now, besides, what if it just ends up being a 2 lap or section track, what then?

[@AWMonopolyMan]

@@comfy88338 Meanwhile I don’t see why people are so absolutely certain that Wii RR is gonna make it in, when they’ve been proven wrong with Airship Fortress and Moonview Highway replacing a GCN track, so clearly, keep your expectations in check

[@AWMonopolyMan]

@@comfy88338 You can’t doesn’t mean Nintendo sees it the same way. They literally can include whatever they want for tracks, I mean they could include a Vanilla Lake or any other not used in 8 yet theme for an SNES track and not just BC3, they could do Mushroom Bridge and Dino Dino/DK Mountain or both DK Mountain and Dino Dino, only Nintendo truly knows what they deem is worthy of the BCP, besides, there was never any promise of even 3DS Rainbow Road making it in, it literally could’ve been say Wario Shipyard instead (if the music leak didn’t happen and tip the hat towards that RR being used). People thought Airship Fortress, they got Mario Circuit instead, people thought Moonview Highway replaced a GCN track, it didn’t, people were hoping for Sunset Wilds to actually have a working Sunset, it didn’t, people were hoping for moving cars in Coconut Mall, that didn’t happen (at launch) and it still isn’t a thing for Time Trials either, oh yeah, people were expecting only 2 characters due to remaining slots, we got 4 instead, literally guessing what Nintendo will actually do, is a futile effort

[@DarkPrince777]

@@AWMonopolyManOh great, I finish my morning workout and then I see you saying information that again…don’t make sense. Remember I said common sense and just being smart? Ok, think it through with me. What you are proposing is an idea that Mushroom Bridge, a Flower Cup traffic course that was slated for Wave 5. Moonview Highway, a Special Cup traffic course that was slated for Wave 6. The BCP devs made the "smartest decision" to swap the 2 courses. Ok, so we didn’t get Bridge. But we’re getting both DK Mountian and Dino Dino Jungle, so Nintendo did all of these swaps just for both Jungles to be in the wave from the same game, even though they share the same music and are thematically the exact same. Not only delaying an easy traffic course or even having a double jungle with no variety for Wave 6, but ALSO leaving Wave 6 without a Rainbow Road to end on since it’s the final Wave of the DLC. So they then decide to give us a very simple Circuit course. When after Wave 3, they closed the first row with 3DS Rainbow Road, a popular one and a fan favorite, and Wii's, The 2nd most beloved Rainbow Road from the series is available to take from Tour and by far one of the prettier remakes, was rendered with the COURSES that are in the DLC and are coming to Wave 6. The anniversary Tour was the end of new courses from Tour. So unless you think that another Rainbow Road or even a random Kirby course would miraculously show up in the DLC, despite a complete lack of leaks and datamines that are not only completed but have a VERY SOLID track record. We quite simply do not have any other options to end off the pass. I don't want to spend another 5 minutes going back to back to discuss this stupid topic. We're getting another 2 Wii Tracks for Wave 6. Whether you like it or not. Use common sense please, I am begging you.

[@DarkPrince777]

@@AWMonopolyManAgain, use common sense. Why would we go from 1-3-2 characters? I’ve been saying since after Wave 5, they’ll give us more than two. And look at that, I was right.🤦

[@kevinr.9733]

I can think of one other thing that would be viable for the last slot besides Wii Rainbow Road (though it probably will be Wii Rainbow Road). DS Rainbow Road would be so great in a game that can actually handle the inversions.

[@HDRookie]

It would be, just never came to Tour

[@thespeedyyoshi]

I think they’ll put a new course based on Mario Odyssey. Since Pauline is being added

[@HDRookie]

I don't think it is possible since Tour content is over 😔

[@crashcoaster3852]

I would swap your placements of the two Piranha plant tracks but aside from that I can buy this.

[@muggy_xp716]

What if they just release 2 or more secret cups and more than four characters to pull off an epic surprise we would of never expected

[@HDRookie]

Would be very cool

[@scootssb]

I'm just hoping toads factory makes a return, there's still a bit of hope left in me for it to come back

[@HDRookie]

It's over for 8D. Will have to be next game

[@scootssb]

@@HDRookie i know but part of me still wants to see it come back haha

[@Sylvauraa]

A theory that might go against BC4... So, there's a notable pattern forming in a lot of the tracks. Mechanics. I feel it may be a prevalent reason as to why Moonview Highway over Mushroom Bridge... Consider one car, bomb, vs two, wiggler bus and mushroom cars. But, it doesn't just apply to Mushroom Bridge. Coconut Mall had the cars removed originally. Sunset Wilds legit doesn't have the Sunset.... well, it does, but it doesn't set, y'know. Another track we could potentially apply to this theory is Waluigi Stadium. Delayed due to not the anti-grav and graphics, but the Piranha Plant pipes... Notice how there's two Piranha Pipes now randomly facing upwards. I think this COULD have been an attempt to avoid the mechanics all-together! If this is true, then perhaps, we are more likely to get SNES BC3 over GBA BC4 due to those strange cannonball droppers in the middle of the course. They need to do the weird bounce in order to get to the lava pits. It works well for Tour, but for MK8D, it would look rather off. They have seemed to care about graphics more in the latter half of courses, after all. This might also be the reason of the strange inclusion of Wii Daisy Circuit. Like, its a circuit course, WHY is it in the final waves? To replace a mechanic, of course.

[@SilverCircle484]

This is a great prediction, but i just dont see them adding 2 of the piranha plant courses. If they were, it would mean that there would be 3 courses with practically all of the same names, with 2 of them being in the same wave? i dont think so. Also, according to the pattern, every other cup has had one non retro track into it (like sky high sundae and squeaky clean sprint) This would put only one of the piranha plant courses in, if true. It makes sense to add both of them if tour is closing soon, i just cant see it. With that, here is my prediction Acorn Cup: -Tour Rome Avanti -Wii Daisy Circuit -Ds Luigi's Mansion -Piranha Plant Cove/Pipeline Spiny Cup: -Tour Madrid Drive -Gcn DK Mountain -Snes Bowsers Castle 3 -Wii Rainbow road Yea, i know luigi's mansion seems like a stretch, but they dont have any luigi's courses in mk8 yet, let alone the booster course pass. It just fits perfectly. On top of that, they have had GCN Luigi's Mansion for the battle's, it makes sense that they kinda have a music soundtrack for it. Plus, it makes sense because Luigi's Mansion 2 got announced and is coming out soon, but idk if that would mean anything. I wouldnt be shocked if they didnt add it but its an option on the table, and no one is predicting this and its a fan favorite. And personally, i think DK mountain has the advantage as much as i like dino dino jungle, dk mountain hasnt been remade recently so it would make sense to add it to HD. Otherwise, everything else makes sense, and the order to change ofc.

[@HDRookie]

I just don't think they're adding 20/21 Tour courses. Easy to just put the last one in.

[@SilverCircle484]

@@HDRookie they did it to sunset wilds, why not this one? yea sure its easier but it just doesnt add up, like we didnt expect daisy circuit to come but we got it. nintendo can do anything they want to and just maybe they dont add both of them. but as i said, anything could happen

[@jayjones4175]

You know what would be cool a bowser cup since none of the tracks from the dlc have be bowser themed

[@mach8114]

Heh, I love how not subtle that persona 5 reference at the beginning was.

[@shadeblackwolf1508]

Nintendo's next hardware is now confirmed in the hands of developers thanks to the microsoft leaks, and the specs read like a continuation of the switch. IF it is backwards compatible, which similar nintendo hardware usually is, what would be your take on Mario Kart of the new system? Would it go back to normal? Do some wild gimmick to differentiate? or maybe skip the hardware for a BCP 2 on 8DX, with a graphics refinement patch bringing all the dlc tracks up to base game standards, and adding some new content on the edges? In my view, the obvious game that could stand against 8DX playable on the same hardware is Nintendo Kart, but i don't think a standard Mario Kart could get off the ground against a triple game sized 8DX.

[@HDRookie]

A non-new entry would be worth harsh criticizing, but I think they know that. Imo, keep it Mario Kart, do 48 tracks at launch. Keep doing DLC like 8D did it. MK should be more evergreen with content, imo. Tour recognized this, but now it's coming to a close. So we'll see.

[@eeveeprotect3004]

I suppose nintendo kart would be possible. But I am lead to believe the next mario kart game is going to be Mario Kart Double Dash Deluxe instead and essentially use all the scrapped chars and tour chars that missed out for that game and have everything essentially doubling from that game alone. Where the amount of racers per race would be in the middle of 10 since the roster is 20 in that game they can double it 40 instead then apply that to everything else and that might be nice new mario kart returning back to what made mario kart double dash as special as it is with 2 racers and doubling that aspect again. This is also why I feel we're not getting any more chars for MK8DX since it wouldn't make sense to include them if they could just save them for this.

[@Marc474R]

Hot take : They bring back waluigi's tractor and they scratch bc4 for dokan course

[@pluubooruu]

Wii getting way too much love in the booster pass. Feels kinda rude that they are passing up on such old maps for such recent ones. Could just be a resource thing too, I imagine it's a lot easier to convert assets from Wii to Switch. Also kinda annoyed how the last 3 cups all have a similar themed track (Koopa Cape and the two piranha plant maps, especially since pp slide exists already too)

[@matthewvandyk7773]

Honestly I just want another Bowsers Castle in Mario Kart 8. So I'm okay with BC 3 or 4. My dream would be BC Ds but that's never happening haha

[@HDRookie]

DS BC is looking spectacular for next MK. BC3 or BC4 will happen I believe. I can't see a world where one of them isn't selected.

[@chanwalk1659]

I don’t know, I feel like GBA Bowser Castle might be a little too long for three laps and I really don’t want it to be a section based track. I wouldn’t be against it joining because it’s another Bowser Castle and we need one, but I’ll just stick with SNES Bowser Castle 3 as my prediction.

[@HDRookie]

I think that's a completely fair take

[@Swiftjar]

Great video!

[@HDRookie]

Definitely rushed this one out a little, but wanted to make sure I could address the topic using just my own original thoughts. Thanks 🙂

[@ravssb]

loving the persona 5 music usage

[@ShirmaAkayaku]

Nintendo could do the unthinkable and put both BC3 and BC4 by replacing the other GCN track. I would prefer this since those two never got remade for a console Mario Kart.

[@HDRookie]

Really doubt that happens, but I wouldn't complain.

[@dtb4903]

If they do that they’ll replace one of the Piranha Plant nitros instead

[@WayBackYT_]

a version of rainbow road will arrive!

[@brandonkong4299]

I don’t think BC4 is gonna happen even if they want a curveball as here’s the thing, if they were to toss BC4 into Wave 6 how would the track play, would it be a normal 3 lap track or a 1 lap section track as the track was section base in Tour, meanwhile SNES BC3 is simple in its layout but still crazy enough to fit Wave 6 due to it being a Star Cup track from Super and while it’s not gonna be the simple track of Wave 6’s Acorn Cup it’s more likely to fit with the Spiny Cup to give off that chaotic vibes of a typical Bowser Castle track and follow the city track as not all retro Bowser Castle tracks have followed the pattern of coming before a Rainbow Road, as GBA BC2 was in the Banana Cup in DS while in Wii we had 2 GBA BC3 which was the 2nd track of the Leaf Cup while N64 Bowser’s Castle was the Lightning Cup finale and while SNES Rainbow Road was remade in 7 it was preceded by Airship Fortress and while it’s Bowser themed it’s not entirely a Bowser track as GBA BC1 was in the game but it was in the Shell Cup so who’s to say Nintendo are tempering people’s expectations that a Bowser’s Castle track has to be followed by a Rainbow Road only for it to be in the 2nd slot of a cup

[@HDRookie]

It would be hard to do well, admittedly. And I'm not saying it must precede a RR. But BC4 is different than BC2 for instance. It's more of a finale type of track. Same goes for BC64, which I think was a fitting last track in MKW. It could go multiple different ways for sure. And I do agree BC3 would fit well.

[@brandonkong4299]

@@HDRookieyeah especially since SNES BC3 could include more Bone Piranha Plants right before the incline as well as lava pillars coming out of the one turn after the 3 section hallways to show that it’s a simple track layout wise but it’s not easy

[@SneakyShadow10]

You know what I think? Captain falcon reveal. Thank you f-zero 99

[@Apollo_____]

Hear me out they are gonna do a secret cup, kinda like how they do with most other mario games. last 2 cups will have normal courses that got pushed aside. then they are gonna do a secret cup with two bowsers castles followed by two rainbow roads. Dont argue with me im trying to cope.

[@johnlindsay8171]

I just want a Bowser Castle, they can't not pick a retro Bowser Castle because there's normally at least one of them

[@HDRookie]

Odds are pretty high we get 1

[@roryrainbow77]

That would be a WILD Spiny Cup if they made it that selection. I can't lie though I'd be pissed if the retro was from GBA again, when only it and N64 have gotten remakes which feels unfair to FIVE other games currently. (SNES, Double Dash, DS, Wii AND 7) That will be Tough to get over. But I did kinda bring this on myself for suggesting the possibility, and in the end it IS a well designed makeover for a retro track honestly.

[@HDRookie]

I think the Wii fans should have a full stomach. More on that next week though. N64 got the most shafted imo. Weird how it went from having the most amount of base 8U courses to having the least amount of DLC.

[@FunkyOverload]

N64 Bowsers castle would’ve been cool to see

[@roryrainbow77]

@@FunkyOverload I can't lie as much as I'm disappointed BC retros have so far only come from two games, N64 was one of the better choices and a fuego track. I'm not at all upset it was chosen on itself and I'd be happy with it again as long as other games get their chance too

[@danielfotheringhamproducti7368]

Honestly, as much as I did want GBA Bowser Castle 4, plus we’d have one retro from each cup being complete outside of Tour, I feel it would probably be quite risky. Yes, SNES Bowser Castle 3 is a short track, but it does have several more opportunities to improve it even more. And at this point, I‘m fed up with seeing GBA tracks if they can’t be found elsewhere, and with Sunset Wilds not using its original mechanic. If they brought back GBA Bowser Castle 4 and it wasn’t improved, I‘d complain A LOT. Sure, there isn’t much to the SNES track, but considering it’s the only remake of a Super Nintendo track to feature dynamic elevation, it would be a sin to not include it in Wave 6, and if it was, we’d at least have half of the variations of tracks remade between the different games. And don’t get me started on the prefix leak, I think Nintendo knows what they’re doing, and if they don’t, then everyone’s done for.

[@HDRookie]

I think GBA BC4 would be good on 8D. The Tour version was one of the few upgrades for gba courses imo

[@danielfotheringhamproducti7368]

@@HDRookie, yeah, it just depends on what Nintendo wants to do, and there are still a lot of courses left to be retros, mainly before 8/8 Deluxe, due to how many have appeared in Tour, yet also including those that have never had a retro appearance in any game. As long as they bring back a GOOD, Bowser Castle, either SNES Bowser Castle 3, GBA Bowser Castle 4, or even 3DS Bowser’s Castle, which is the least likely out of those three, then I think we’ll be all happy.

[@danielfotheringhamproducti7368]

⁠@@HDRookie, also, I expect both cities as the beginnings of their respective cups, Wii Daisy Circuit as the 2nd track of the Acorn Cup, and Wii Rainbow Road as the final course of the Spiny Cup and the entire pass. The rest of them really depend. Honestly, I‘d put Tour Piranha Plant Cove and GCN DK Mountain as the third and fourth courses of the Acorn Cup, and Tour Piranha Plant Pipeline and GBA Bowser’s Castle 4 as the second and third courses of the Spiny Cup respectively, unless the SNES track takes the latter spot… BUT THEY‘D BETTER NOT INCLUDE GHOST VALLEY, VANILLA LAKE, CHOCO ISLAND OR KOOPA BEACH FOR THE FINAL WAVE!! My rants aside, I am hopeful that this final wave will go out with a bang, and whether it releases Early-Mid October, Late October-Early November, or Late November-Early December, I hope we get more information soon.

[@ilikepurper1160]

heres an even more tinfoil hat theory you know how they added extra characters then the 2 we thought what if they are hiding some secret courses and add the courses people thought wouldnt come in

[@JazzyWaffles]

SNES isn't under-represented because it's "less popular", it has 4/20 courses because it doesn't have 20 courses, it has 8. There is absolutely no reason to add three separate remakes of Donut Plains, for example. So realistically, 4/20 is 4/8, or 50% representation.

[@HDRookie]

That's an interesting take actually. When considering the rest of the Booster Pass too, you have Choco Mountain, Snow Land, Boo Lake, and Koopa Cape now, which all kinda cover the theming of the other 4 track types as well.

[@ritzgamez]

My biggest fear is Wii Rainbow Road not making the last wave. It just has to come. But 8 Wii tracks seems like it’s cutting a lil. The original prefix leak revealed that the last track of the whole BCP was gonna be a Wii track. And we all expected it to be Wii Rainbow Road. It just seems like the perfect climax track. And then its inclusion in Tour almost confirmed it. It would just be disappointing if that was all a red herring.

[@HDRookie]

I don't see the benefit Nintendo would get out of not putting it in. It'll be there.

[@ritzgamez]

@@HDRookie I do believe Nintendo has one more surprise for us. But whatever it is might upset some fans. We can pretty much assume that the last 4 tracks from Tour are coming. And Daisy Circuit is already confirmed. Then DDJ or DKM coming feels like it has to happen. SNES BC3 seems like it was designed to be in the BCP. And WII RR just looks like it was planned from the beginning. But with Nintendo, we never know.

[@HDRookie]

@ritzgamez2007 They put 3DS RR in Wave 3 instead of Wave 6. There are no more Tour tracks. There aren't any other non RMX RRs. They haven't put in any RMX tracks yet. RR is much safer than BC3 because it doesn't have a BC4 leaning over its shoulder.

[@conmanay4563]

RIP my hopes of N64 bowser’s castle

[@HDRookie]

F

[@AWMonopolyMan]

Every game besides Super Circuit and Super are tied in main series for number of Bowser Castles at 1 a piece, retro’s don’t count since they are just reused, 7 has a 2nd Bowser track with Neo Bowser City, so it has a slight edge for unique Bowser themed courses, if we’re being entirely realistic, Tour actually has the least with 0 unique Bowser Castle’s to call its own

[@roryrainbow77]

When you say this I don't think you understand why retros are counted, because it's counted collectively among all of the tracks you can play in that game (which would include retros) So he is right

[@AWMonopolyMan]

@@roryrainbow77 Then by your own logic, Super Circuit has the most at 7 of the main 8 games. Why I don’t count Retro’s to the extent that I don’t, is because realistically, most Mario Kart games generally reuse the track with minimal changes most times (key word being most times, especially pre Mario Kart 8) as for Bowser Castle’s, each game has 1 unique Bowser’s Castle all to itself (Retros not included) meaning Tour has the least at 0, every game besides Super and Super Circuit have 1, Super itself having 3 and Super Circuit having 4.

[@roryrainbow77]

@@AWMonopolyMan You're missing the point. The fact is there is only a single selectible Bowser Castle out of 88 tracks, by comparison to a game like Mario Kart Wii that 3 choices out of 32. It honestly does not matter to consider super circuits retros it doesn't change this fact

[@AWMonopolyMan]

@@roryrainbow77 And ya just proved my ultimate point, you saying Super Circuit’s retros “not being considered” just makes me say, then why consider the rest of the retros, either they all count or none of them do, also why not play Tour if you desperately crave a Bowser’s Castle of some kind since there’s 6 of them in that game alone

[@roryrainbow77]

@@AWMonopolyMan you can feel free to respond but I'm done with this conversation as you have made an assumption by rewording what I said, I never said to not consider GBA I'm saying whether it's considered or not is not what the comparison is about. I will also say that is not even remotely how Mario Kart Tour works you can't just freely play whatever track is in the game. Lastly, it feels like you're framing me wanting a second bowser's Castle in the current console Mario kart as a bad thing. That's sad.

[@callumsmith5819]

plot twist, the last cup has 15 tracks in it

[@mrsocks8199]

piranha plant pipeline wont be in the pass problem solved

[@HDRookie]

Hard disagree. It is pretty distinct from Cove. It's more like Slide than anything else but if they can do 5 Rainbow Roads they can do 2 pipe courses.

[@mrsocks8199]

@@HDRookie I agree it's distinct enough, But it looks so much worse than all the other tour originals. It doesn't look like it was made for 8 deluxe Every wave so far has had a maximum of one non-city tour original.

[@HDRookie]

@mrsocks8199 Made for Deluxe is more of a discussion point for retro tracks I'd say. Because they don't just bring back all of them. So ones with more effort give us hints. Doesn't really apply to the Tour originals, I think. Pipeline will look good if it's placed in MK8.

[@mrsocks8199]

@@HDRookie Nintendo has never said they'll bring back every tour track

[@mrsocks8199]

That's just an assumption everyone made

[@djr.bklyn.ny.]

None of this would have happened if they did one simple thing: Swapped Merry Mountain For Peach Gardens and put BC3 as the third track in the Moon Cup. Then Peach Gardens Replacing Daisy Circuit in Wave 6. Then we could have BC3 as the Third Track in the Spiny Cup

[@LD5316IO]

While I don’t think SNES BC3 is a lock, I think it has higher chances than GBA BC4 for a couple of reasons: - While it’s noticeable that both SNES BC3 and GBA BC4 got considerable overhauls, BC3 has the edge over BC4 because it has antigravity potential, that massive slope is begging for antigravity and suggests that it was made with 8DX in mind, BC4 doesn’t feature something like this. - SNES BC3 is the only SNES track to ever receive this type of remake while many GBA tracks got this type of overhaul so it isn’t something that special for BC4 - Related to the previous point, all the RMX tracks in Tour use as their source material their counterparts from SNES with the exception of RMX Bowser Castle which uses assets from the GBA versions, I think this suggests that actually SNES BC3 was not intended to be primarily remade for Tour, in fact this track hasn’t returned in any tour since its debut while BC4 has. It’s rather weird that if it was only remade for Tour, it isn’t used more often in that game. - Considering previous tracks placements in the BCP is very likely that Piranha Plant Cove and Pipeline will have the last slot of the Acorn Cup and the third slot of the Spiny Cup, Daisy Circuit probably will be the second of Acorn and the GCN jungle track the third one, SNES BC3 then fits better as the second slot of Spiny compared to BC4 I’m not saying SNES BC3 is a lock but I think is way more likely than BC4 considering the information we have. Maybe Nintendo’s last surprise was that there wasn’t any surprise at all and they just left everyone overthinking about these last tracks, just making everyone doubt because they showed early “the surprise track”. (Considering not everyone follows the leaks, any track might be a surprise for them)

[@HDRookie]

Everything you said truly checks out. I just don't know if we can trust that logic will win, lol.

[@LD5316IO]

@@HDRookieI’m with you, that’s why I said it’s likely but not guaranteed until the trailer 100% confirms it. Regardless, a Bowser Castle needs to be in wave 6. It’s criminal that among 88 tracks we have, only one of them is a Bowser Castle (the comparison you made with DD and 64 actually made it more shocking lol)

[@crashcoaster3852]

Yeah but also bear in mind that every Bowser Castle track comes before the Rainbow Road in the respective game (aside from SNES) which imo makes a strong case it'll be the 3rd track of the spiny cup and PPP will be the 2nd.

[@LD5316IO]

@@crashcoaster3852 That applies only to nitros, it has never been the case for retros

[@friendlyyoutubecommenter4527]

Don't we only have enough room on the board for 6 racers? And the bottom row is composed of guest characters, so... I think we may have more characters hidden.

[@JKV2500]

They could make Dry Bowser, Tanooki Mario, Pink Gold Peach, Villagers, and Inklings alts. However, the Villager and Inkling could’ve became alts that make room for the other 2 characters.

[@scmtuk3662]

The question is, according to the prefix leak, what's remaining is: 2 city courses 2 non-city courses 1 Wii course 2 GCN courses 1 SNES course Now, if Wii Daisy Circuit has taken that last Wii slot, then there's no Wii Rainbow Road But if Wii Rainbow Road is still coming, which of the remaining slots did it replace? One of the city courses, non-city courses, GCN courses, or even the SNES course? And if both Wii Rainbow Road AND GBA Bowser's Castle 4 are in, that means TWO planned courses were replaced. Did they replace BOTH GCN courses? Or maybe GBA Bowser's Castle 4 replaced the SNES slot, and Wii Rainbow Road replaced another slot, for example a GCN slot?

[@HDRookie]

Wii Rainbow Road isn't replacing anything. It has always existed. Wii DC and Wii MH are the courses that have replaced something so far. Moonview Highway (ID gap matching the replaced nitro) is the actual replacement for a GCN course (Mushroom Bridge). Daisy Circuit is the actual replacement for the 3rd Tour nitro of Wave 6 which we know is scrapped now (creating the mystery course). It's ID is likely lined up with the original Mushroom Bridge, but swapped positions with Moonview Highway. Like shown in the video, I believe that MT going from W6 -> W3 caused the following chain reaction: Waluigi Stadium: W3 -> W4 Daisy Cruiser W4 -> W5 SNES BC3 W5 -> W6 SNES BC3 has been part of the original MT move, but that does not protect it from potentially being swapped (The video is about BC4 potentially doing so).

[@scmtuk3662]

@@HDRookie Um.... Moonview Highway replaced the so-called "3rd Tour nitro". The literal filename is Cnsw_63, which was going to be the "3rd Tour nitro". The two remaining GCN courses are (or were) Cnsw_56 and Cnsw_66. The last SNES course is Cnsw_57. Cnsw_68 is a Wii course. But again, that doesn't matter. Since once again, you're not listening. _THERE IS NO PROOF THAT WII RAINBOW ROAD IS COMING AT ALL_ You're just SPECULATING. There is absolutely _NOTHING_ that says "Wii Rainbow Road has been confirmed". Everyone, and I mean _EVERYONE_ is just making assumptions because "it's in Tour", and "the last course was originally planned to be a Wii course", or "it has half-pipes". But absolutel _NO ONE_ has actually provided _PROOF_ that actually _CONFIRMS_ that Wii Rainbow Road is in. And for the love of all things bullshit, I mean _PROOF_ Not a bunch of speculation. I _DEMAND_ you provide me with something that literally says in _PLAIN ENGLISH_ the actual words "Wii Rainbow Road is coming to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe". None of this "it just makes sense", or "Nintendo wouldn't do this". I don't want a load of "it has to happen", "they can't not end it with a Rainbow Road", "Wave 3 ended with Rainbow Road so Wave 6 has to". I want _the actual_ confirmation, by NINTENDO THEMSELVES, that actually says RIGHT THERE, "Wii Rainbow Road is coming". _ACTUAL CONCRETE FREAKING PROOF!!!!_ And how the fuck do you _KNOW_ that Wii DC replaced anything? Why can't you just fucking accept that Wii Daisy Circuit _MIGHT BE_ that last Wii course? Why are you stupid KZbinrs so _HELL BENT_ on Wii Rainbow Road being in, that you'll absolutely _REFUSE_ to accept that it _MIGHT NOT BE IN AT ALL?_ Whenever another Wii course is added that's not Rainbow Road it's just "OMG IT REPLACED SOMETHING BECAUSE _SURELY_ THEY WOULDN'T NOT INCLUDE RAINBOW ROAD". But _they could_ Nintendo are _NOT_ your slaves. _YOU DON'T GET TO DICTATE TO THEM WHAT COURSES ARE COMING OR NOT!_

[@SB2749]

@@scmtuk3662 It's not that serious bro chill

[@scmtuk3662]

@@SB2749 It's not serious. So I don't know why people are _seriously_ not considering the possibility that Wii Rainbow Road might not be in. It has half-pipes, yes. It's the only remaining Rainbow Road in Tour, yes. The last course in Wave 6 was originally planned to be a Wii course, yes. But, well allow me to introduce to you, 1000 bags. You open 999 bags, and they all contain carrots. Does that mean the 1000th bag will also contain carrots? Not necessarily. Therefore, just because there are lots of things that _suggest_ Wii Rainbow Road is coming... it's still not a full 100% confirmation. It's more a of 99.999% likely scenario, but still not 100%.

[@greyowl3787]

Seems like nobody dares to even _consider_ that Daisy Circuit will be the only wii track in wave 6. The absence of Wii RR would probably trigger riots but I think this worst case scenario needs to be discussed more.

[@HDRookie]

I don't consider it a scenario at all, so it can't be the worst one. Everyone is reading the prefix leak too literally. There were 6 Wii courses on it. Moonview Highway was the 6th one. Yet, now we have a 7th in Daisy Circuit. If anything, Daisy Circuit proves that the amount if Wii tracks in the pass was never accurate.

[@eeveeprotect3004]

yea I feel the same way to be honest I feel spiny is more bowser themed then having RR and this isn't the first time bowser castle was the last track. Bowser Castle from the MK64 was the last cup of the retros from wii so it could happen again in that regard. I Also doubt snes bowser castle 3 is goung to happen either and feel like we may get gcn bowser castle instead. I know bowser's castle is noi in tour at all and make the chances of it coming very low. But given this year is mario kart double dash's 20th anniversary, Nintendo could make an exception and give us a new course that's exclusive to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe with it being gcn bowser's castle instead. But we shall see I guess

[@greyowl3787]

@@HDRookie yes so thx for essentially confirming what I’m saying: it’s apparently “not a scenario”, except it can be. And if datamined acronyms aren’t reliable then that means nothing’s a guarantee, other than the Tour tracks. I can see Nintendo screwing it up big time by not including RR. To be contrarian, or to keep some bangers for mk9, I dunno, guess we’ll see. Hopefully I’m wrong.

[@poliwhirlking]

I think the last cup will have the GBA, GCN, Wii, and DS rainbow roads in them. Beacause they are the only rainbow roads not in MK8D. Also why wouldn't they make the Blue Shell cup full of the hardest levels?

[@HDRookie]

I thought this originally too but with the end of Tour's production it's looking like this isn't a possibility anymore. Would be a huge surprise.

[@SoemthingFishy]

I feel that Peachette is a big clue, like they are going to add a course that would fit her rather than a BC track. I dont like that.

[@HDRookie]

Trying to think what that could be lol. Only Peach Circuit comes to mind.

[@bingobo2551]

Imagine if we had an all rainbow road cup for the blue shell cup.

[@eeveeprotect3004]

technically already a thing if base game 3 rainbow road and 3ds rainbow road in the bcp is used together.

[@bingobo2551]

@@eeveeprotect3004 your not wrong but technically I mean with the gba, gc, ds & wii rainbow road.

[@eeveeprotect3004]

@@bingobo2551 ah right that be a very interesting ending too

[@HDRookie]

Thought about it for a while, but they couldn't possibly make a worthy followup to Deluxe if they did this lol

[@bingobo2551]

@@HDRookie to be fair they could definantly make some interesting changes in the next mk such as pulling a sonic rush & allowing the player to be faster by doing more tricks instead of using coins to be faster. Or maybe use mushrooms/stars to create 150cc or higher shortcuts where you can drive on top of the water for a few seconds. Or even maybe bring back some arcade retros or the third type of tour nitro which are the rmx tracks. Along side bring back new versions of certain tracks.

[@stikpetparty]

What happens if Daisy Circuit replaced Wii Rainbow Road and instead we got GCN Rainbow Road, Even though Wii rainbow road was already made in tour but who know

[@HDRookie]

That isn't going to happen without a miracle

[@stikpetparty]

@@HDRookie who knows it’s Nintendo they do whatever they want and it’s just my guess sense daisy’s circuit filled the last Wii spot I believe it was supposed to be in the game but switch it to daisy circuit and there’s 2 GCN tracks left and a snes so my guess GCN Rainbow Road will be in

[@eeveeprotect3004]

possible if they wanted to make an exception to mario kart double dash's 20th anniversary. I would be more happy just getting 2 gcn tracks this wave so I can properly do a gcn run of 8 courses from the first game I got to become a gamer in the first place

[@FunkyOverload]

@@eeveeprotect3004if Wave 6 comes out in November that’s Double Dash’s 20th on the 7th so I mean I think it would still take a miracle

[@eeveeprotect3004]

@@FunkyOverload true tho feeling its ending on late december instead tho november 7th would be nice too. So far making an All Cup Tour thing for mario kart 8 deluxe that I think nintendo is giving us to figure out

[@keeperfay9990]

I really don’t think they’re gonna add both piranha plant courses… doesn’t seem like a ‘lock’ to me

[@justoad]

You were right

[@keeperfay9990]

@@justoad Dang I forgot about this thanks for the reminder lol

[@jackdonsurfer]

Lol using “Last Surprise” was perfect

[@joshslater2426]

I just need DK Mountain.

[@FidGame450]

This is all very interesting, but while both SNES BC3 and GBA BC4 did get completely overhauled, GBA tracks were already getting this kind of treatment, so it wasn’t really that surprising in hindsight. SNES tracks, on the other hand, were never changed like this and the fact they did that for one SNES track and one SNES track only leads me to believe that SNES BC3 is coming. Maybe it’s not a lock for the BCP, but technically speaking, aside from the Tour tracks, no tracks are a lock.

[@HDRookie]

The Prefix leak is not indicative of the final product, but it certainly gives us a look at what their plans were at one point. BC3, without a doubt, was in the plans for the BCP at one point. Maybe it still is. But we do know there is a change involving it, so it can definitely be questioned.

[@bdt2002gaming]

Not me sitting in the corner thinking we won’t get Wii Rainbow Road anymore to begin with 😂 seriously, that would be SEVEN Wii courses if I did my math right

[@HDRookie]

Almost certain we will. It'll be eight courses!

[@bdt2002gaming]

@@HDRookie Wait, eight of them? What’s the eighth? -Mushroom Gorge -Coconut Mall -DK Summit -Daisy Circuit -Koopa Cape -Maple Treeway -Moonview Highway …oh yeah I guess that would be eight if they added Rainbow Road still, never mind then. 😅

[@JackDaSnack15]

Nintendo the most unpredictable company honestly they could just shock us all and add alternate costumes and shit

[@noahnovemm108]

GCN rainbow road is coming to wave 6

[@HDRookie]

It's not

[@noahnovemm108]

@@HDRookie if

[@bravelion9272]

I still think that we will get GBA Bowser Castle 4 instead of Wii Rainbow Road.

[@ElijahtheGoodra]

But what if, There's a DLC 2 for MK8D

[@HDRookie]

Definitely doubting it at this point. Would've been announced in the direct I reckon.

[@ElijahtheGoodra]

Well alright then. Still think the courses will make it into the final cups?

[@user-tm4tb5vf5b]

What if Nintendo were to give us Disney characters like Despicable Me and Star Wars and possibly Marvel, considering the fact that they might do volume 2

[@luckyboy7294]

Honestly, it's just a shame that they didn't brought back Wuhu tracks

[@beatziegraham6928]

While it’s not in tour, I want DS rainbow road. The loopdeloop and corkscrew would be perfect for antigravity!

[@klop4228]

Honestly, I know it'll never happen, but I'd love GBA Rainbow Road. There's so much potential with the most evil Rainbow Road in the series.

[@Peppizza73]

I still think that (SNES) Bowser's Castle 3 is more than likely (GBA) Bowser's Castle 4. The reason why is because (GBA) Bowser's Castle 4 would crash with Piranha Plant Cove for being in ruins. I still think that DK Mountain is more likely than Dino Dino Jungle. It just that I pretty sure that there's NO WAY that we're getting two ruins tracks in the same Wave. Piranha Plant "COVE" isn't similar to Piranha plant "pipeline." The only thing that is similar is the name.

[@HDRookie]

I don't think BC4 and Cove are remotely similar. That being said, I think it is still less likely than BC3

[@Peppizza73]

@@HDRookie I reason why I think it would crash is because they take place in Ruins. The Tour version of (GBA) BC4 is in a Ruins castle. People know that is because of the bomb just 💥.

[@Peppizza73]

​​@@HDRookieIf they're going to give us another surprise, I think the surprise will be that they're adding Battle Courses to the Booster Course Pass.

[@Waffletigercat]

I would honestly be down for GBA BC4 in the final wave. I’d feel a little bad for SNES only having 3 tracks in the entire game, but GBA BC4 is just plain a better track than SNES BC3. As far as other surprises in wave 6, I am kinda expecting more new characters to be revealed.

[@HDRookie]

Personally speaking, I'm fine with either. I think BC3 would be a better fit even if BC4 is more ambitious. Part of me wants BC4 at this point for the ego now though lol.

[@flamingphoenix1425]

Spiny Cup could have and should have been all Rainbow Road

[@eeveeprotect3004]

I guess feels more bowser eccentric then rainbow road eccentric to me but I disgrace

[@GregTP]

Hell nah

[@masonduck1226]

My big crackpot theory is that MAYBE wave 6 will include a third, bonus cup, so that the total number of courses in this game is an even 100 instead of 96. My evidence is that I made it up. I just think it would be kinda cool

[@JKV2500]

No, it has some evidence to it. Mainly Dry Dry Ruins being a high quality track that would stay in Tour. And we don’t have a winter theme track, so Rosalina’s Ice World is on the table.

[@masonduck1226]

Unfortunately I don't think any of that is enough evidence for me

[@JKV2500]

@@masonduck1226 your probably right, but who knows

[@masonduck1226]

We can dream lol