The Boys Season 4: It's Not Bad Because It's Woke

[@handsome_head_injury6011]

My biggest complaints would be that season 4's story seems aimless, and the world feels smaller.

[@nuhwannnun]

anybody who says this does not look at the show on a deep enough level, everybody that understands that this show is a case study of narcissists in a grey area appreciates the show for many reasons

[@JordanLittle-bb3yq]

You're full of shit.

[@dfqgoing_on6899]

@@nuhwannnun nah.. its surface level garbage at best

[@austinwhalen8217]

Pay tf attention

[@austinwhalen8217]

@@dfqgoing_on6899cuz you got the media literacy of a fckin rat 😂

[@Grayson-Rosen]

Wow someone actually having real criticisms of Season 4 instead of just complaining that its “woke garbage” I respect it

[@lockhunter6956]

Vocal minority my friend most of us just want the show to go somewhere and not be a flat circle I personally thought this was going to be the scorched earth season but instead it feels like a filler seasonbefore the stuff actually happens

[@lockhunter6956]

I say this BUT my gut says they'll kill atrain at the end of the season so he finally gets his real first save

[@meeleeman6311]

​@lockhunter6956 I get what you mean, in the trailers leading up to it I was expecting a full war, and what we got was... well, its just felt kinda underwhelming.

[@reedbecker]

Wait... you think woke writing is good?!? Fascinating

[@labbetuss]

@@reedbecker Shoehorning it as "woke" because you can't understand satire or irony is both hilarious and sad. Must be strange to be someone who's proud of their own ignorance, lmao

[@tommy_swim243]

The part with Homelander and being annoyed with being surrounded by yes men and then being mad at the fact that he isn’t is the whole point. Homelander doesn’t know what he wants. He wants people who challenge him but when they do he gets mad because them challenging him hurts his ego.

[@farlonmuentes6004]

The whole point which defeats the established character that he had in earlier seasons. He is well aware of what he made in the company grounds hence the character assassination mentioned in the video. He is growing backwards because being aware should be the pinnacle of homelander, not reverting to being insecure or a confused child. HL was formidable because he knows what he can do while backed up with his unmatched strength. He is now less threatening than when the series started.

[@madratter7031]

Media literacy is dead Man. It ain't even that deep

[@crowd175]

I thought killing his lab "buddies", the split personalities, being a "father" figure actually means something, I felt like that was the implication but it looks like if homelander a little bit become more competent a writer can't handle the character so it getting reset go for that easy, he's ruining things cause he's dumb dumb & unsecure with ego. Then here is the big brain girl with the magical we actually did it cause you aren't changed & still incompetent yey clap clap clap for you breastmilker

[@franchescooneto1932]

He’s only human after all

[@dewolf123]

​@franchescooneto1932 Hes not human at all 😂nothing about him is aside from feelings but even then he was hardly born one either

[@khato111]

My real problem with The Boys is that… nothing has happened… In season 1, they killed Translucent. In season 2, they killed Stormfront. In season 3, nothing ended up happening, but it has an awesome cliffhanger that made you think Homelander would change in season 4 to become more openly ruthless. But in season 4 that didn’t happen. There are no stakes anymore. We know the main characters aren’t going to die. We know that Homelander isn’t going to die (even though that’s the whole point of the show). So what’s the point? There’s only so many times the writers can make us think “ohh Homelander’s gonna snap” before it loses its impact. I honestly lost it at that battle between The Boys and The Deep/Black Noir in the penultimate episode. I thought that somebody might die, but no it was a pointless battle. If they aren’t willing to increase the stakes and actually remove this stupid plot armour, then this show is done for. They’re just stretching out this show for too long. The Boys, originally a satire of superhero franchises like Marvel, has basically become exactly that. At this point, just kill Homelander already.

[@CineBites1]

damn, wish i heard this before i made the video. it'd be the conclusion lol

[@thepillowhead2453]

To be honest, the finale kinda proved you wrong on that front.

[@LordRotule]

Battle in the Boys HQ made it so A-Train had to save everybody and expose himself as the leak. Plot moved forwards. You don't need to kill a character to move the plot.

[@Schlex]

@@thepillowhead2453not really, if anything it proved it. they kill off a character that had so much background building up that led to nothing. a pointless kill for shock value, which is all that season 5 will be, one after one after one meaningless death. Not to mention not one of “the boys” actually died when getting arrested, why would homelander want even one of them to survive. It makes absolutely no sense to kill only Neuman other than to clean up a loose end of a character they had no idea what to do with

[@thepillowhead2453]

@@Schlex True.

[@haversidne3658]

This is all fault of Eric Kripke, all the things he couldn't do on Supernatural bc of Cw restricted content rules, he is doing it on here, he just wants to put crazy shit bc the sake of it at the expenses of the plot

[@CineBites1]

damn i wish i had thought of that. great point

[@Shome2049]

Couldn't agree more. I miss season 1&2 level of quality.

[@srensen9948sander]

I miss valid criticism with actual good points .... Like open your eyes

[@hetzertankdestroyer]

​@@srensen9948sanderIf you think the new season is on the same level as the first 2 you might have brain damage on the same level as butcher

[@MajungasaurusCrenatissimus]

​@@srensen9948sander This video was literally entirely valid criticism. The fact that you choose to say it isn't without backing your own words up feels pretty immature. Maybe instead of whining about how this video is totally wrong, analyze the main critiques and provide why they are false accusations so that you can prove your point. Don't make claims that you can't even back up, c'mon.

[@cdcm17]

I think season 3 was superior to season 2. Soldier Boy was a more compelling secondary villain and side character than Stormfront.

[@shreeshanthkadam]

​@@cdcm17 Yeah season3 was peak.... I just wasn't fully satisfied with the ending tho

[@hjc7429]

Why do people think that the boys or edgar would've recruited Sage. She's clearly a supe supremacist

[@CineBites1]

i still think she's playing a double cross. she's just going deep undercover. i dont think they would write a smart character without a twist in mind.

[@chefito1211]

@CineBites1picking her up as a member of any team is a dangerous game to play tho cuz she can help you in the short term sure, but at the end of the day her goals are what matters most to her in the long term and nobody can even comprehend what she’ll be willing to do to accomplish them and how she’ll do it

[@MacenW]

She just got fired lol they didn't even kill her ​@@CineBites1

[@emiofnnc]

@@CineBites1 Of course but the issue is trusting her, You cannot trust her at all and I think Edgar and even Butcher knew that, she is always self-centered and looking to screw over everyone because she thinks of herself as not only a supe-supremacist but she thinks she is superior to everyone else.

[@jonathanolivaamaya5686]

@@CineBites1still doesn’t change the fact that she outwardly shows herself as a supe supremacist

[@Shouten707]

One of my biggest disappointments with the season is how they completely abandon the compelling cliffhanger of season 3. Homelander killed someone in BROAD DAYLIGHT, and he just goes to trial and gets let go. My issue isn't that he was let go. I get that the show is supposed to show the rich and powerful get away with everything, however, you CAN NOT convince me the rest of the world would see that and just let it slide. If supers are killing people in America, other countries would not feel safe or happy about that, and would be taking SOME kind of action to make sure their country doesn't become a target.

[@IllusionDX]

That's what bothers me the most about the show, it's that the public lets so much shit slide like it's nothing, piled on season after season, and they still believe Vought, like you can't be serious lol

[@saucevc8353]

I feel like you might have missed the point, the scene is meant to show that Homelander WON’T face consequences no matter what he does because the people are on his side. As for the rest of the world, they didn’t do shit when Homelander was actively interfering in overseas wars back in season two, why would they suddenly be so shocked that Homelander killed one American dude?

[@cgk1276]

They constantly set up huge cliffhangers with disappointing payoffs

[@anjubala560]

The best of Season 3 was Soldier boy.

[@Cory_Jad9024]

Season 3 was hot garbage it's true Soldier Boy carried the Season hard

[@thealiminop7571]

@@Cory_Jad9024no it wasn’t bruh cope harder

[@ElPresidenteMargz]

@@thealiminop7571S3 is def better than this past season but it was mainly due to Soldier Boy who carried. Take SB out of S3 and it be hands down the worst season of the show

[@KingAshtray]

​@@Cory_Jad9024agreed

[@justsomeguyontheinternet5898]

@@ElPresidenteMargzWell if you take out soldier boy the entire season is completely different.

[@jay21789]

Finally someone who doesn’t dick ride this show and actually calls it out for the blatant BS it pulls every single episode. Also glad I’m not the only one who hates Sage.

[@tonithetiger6226]

you hate her because shes black and you know it

[@yolokuulyop1]

A-train redemption was great

[@midwesterner563]

I think season 4 has been alright but the show has lost its nervousness factor like in season 1 or 2 where any main character could just die and homelander was so unpredictable, but now we haven't lost a character in like how long and the plot doesn't seem to progress besides the supe virus. season 5 could probably save this but that is my only problem

[@daoyang223]

They copped out a lot i know what you mean. Just like how they didnt kill soldier boy or ryan at the end of season 3. One of them had to die. Neither did. Maeve didnt die either. Neuman died but now theres leaks that it was a shifter neuman. Like i hope not. A train got his redemption arc and didnt die. MM didnt die. Butcher didnt die (and they teased his death), Annie realistically should have died in season 4 and she didnt die either. Oh and Firecracker is still alive. Why? What will they do with her in S5? Is she gonna spew more alex jones rhetoric and have another starlight sub arc which leads to her death? If so, why even retread that water right away when it just happened? Theres no stakes. Its terrible. I hope season 5 shows more better writing.

[@joroed]

Ive been liking season 4 the only bad this is that I think the plot is not really moving foward at the pace of season 1 and 2 instead a similar pace to season 3.

[@6-dpegasus425]

I agree with this, it felt like mostly buildup, which did payoff in the last 2 episodes, but wish there was a biti more

[@darkswaggboss9059]

Well it’s a setup for szn 5

[@Tristanwoods20189]

The boy's fandom can't handle criticism, some of these comments section is proof

[@ellementisinyourwalls]

This aint criticism its not the show can do this to improve its...this is bad half of the complaints are stupid shit like "This is woke trash" I think the pacing is a bit off its not as hype as season 3 but thats pretty much it rest of it is pretty much fine talking about its bad is crazy when its better than most of whats on television is crazy

[@TedHatesCringe]

And most of the Orange Man's simps really hates people who's enjoying the show.

[@Tristanwoods20189]

@ellementisinyourwalls things coming out of nowhere like starlights pregnancy and butcher using blue compound v, also everything that happened to Hughie in episode 6 after Hughies dad died, most of the villains are just racist white trash because the creators ran out of ideas, Frenchies arc being recycled from season 3 but with a boyfriend that has no personality and is in it for 5 minutes, some of the dialogue sounds like it was written by Twitter user, also the creators said Hughies sa was played for laughs, yes some people that don't like the season say stupid shit, but people saying the show is still peak is crazy. Homelander, butcher and A train carry the season hard

[@ellementisinyourwalls]

​​ @Tristanwoods20189 So your argument is things coming out of nowhere aka new information like none of the information makes sense we see starlight and hughie having sex like since season 2 without protection sorry if you didnt know this but WHEN YOU DO THAT YOU CAN BE BECOME PREGNANT also there was so many theories about how butcher could survive if he took compound v so he just took it and to his suprise it didnt help not too big a revelation its actually tragic the stuff that happend to hughie was done undercover worse shit has happend before in the show idk if yall remember this but didnt homelander rape becca like this aint new for the show at all noone laughs at hughie for this except the writers its seen as deplorable and they kill tek knight and torutre him for it the villians have always been inherently racist homelanders been racist since season 2 I can see where people are coming with frenchies arc but as a character driven show you have to find something to do with him alot of this seasons theme is facing the mistakes you made in your past and frenchie did kill a ton of people and its never gone really punished for him besides externally so they tapped into it for him its barely even that impactful on the season and dosent mess with the run time either so who cares shows dosent have to be peak but the scale isnt PEAK or SHIT show can still be good and just not be the best shit ever idk why everyones tryna act like the boys is so bad now when its literally fine

[@ellementisinyourwalls]

@@Tristanwoods20189 explain how starlights pregnancy the compound v shit with butcher came out of nowhere havent starlight and hughie been fucking without protection since season 2 and didnt they get compound V to give to kimiko around the end of season 3? please dont tell me you dont know where babies come from

[@PilloTheStar]

Kripke must REALLY hate hughie. Dude's abuse has become comedy in the later seasons.

[@GustEdgeOfficial]

I’m convinced at this point he has it out for Jack Quaid for voicing Superman 💀

[@Jkjoannaki]

Hughie got raped and the writers saw it as a joke. And people call this show woke? Nothing woke about laughing at rape victims. Kripke is everything he criticizes. A hypocrite. When starlight was raped, he showed it as a horrible thing (it is), but now hughie was raped and its hilarious????

[@looniemoonie5955]

Remember: he said that Hughie getting SAd was "hilarious". But if we reverse the genders? Uh-oh, what's that, Starlight situation from season 1??? Not so hilarious anymore?!

[@AleTitan]

​​@@looniemoonie5955he even had to "correct" himself in later interviews and "clarify" he meant the MEANS that were used to SA him were funny. Not the ACTUAL SA So Kripke thinks all portraying all BDSM people as rapists is top tier humor. Not sure that's not any better...

[@Missjunebugfreak]

​@@GustEdgeOfficialWouldn't be shocked if this is the reason. Kripke seems weirdly sadistic about Hughie's suffering.

[@williamfrank962]

I glad someone else is critiquing the show for poor writing and not just going on about the “woke” aspects of it. A prime example to me of bad writing and missed opportunity was the that firecracker was a creep. It’s used in one scene and is never mentioned again after the fact. They could’ve done something with it to make us dislike the character more or could’ve done a good commentary female predators and yet it’s never brought up again.

[@bigbluebuttonman1137]

The show also mentioned a chick who "froze a guy's dick off," so the show seems vaguely aware that they exist. But just that; vaguely aware that they exist.

[@WaterCarrier07]

I agree that more should have been made of this but equally it’s another on the nose critique of this populist-conservatism that the US has. You can totally see a public figure to the right of the political spectrum sexually assaulting a child and being able to get away with it by just using the words “woke deep state”, hell one of the two presidential candidates is a sex felon

[@ey1615]

The woke aspects are inherently tied to bad writing though. The words nuance, honesty and subtlety are definitely not part of Kripke's vocabulary.

[@hasan_1888]

@@ey1615 "The woke aspects are inherently tied to bad writing though" no they are not. Its just pathetic attempts by youtubers to get views on their videos. the show has been woke from the start. the problem is s4 lacks a strong storyline. s4 was mostly satire.

[@Mt554.]

​@@hasan_1888 s4 is way more political than s1, s4 is basically republican and chritians r evil and democrats good, thats s4

[@trentster8908]

this is actually the same exact idea i got while watching all the episodes high yesterday but wasnt able to fully explain out to myself in words 😂😂

[@CineBites1]

lol

[@michaelhawkins7389]

@@CineBites1 season 3 of the Boys is still great and has high reviews , from critics and fans....... but season 4 is very tame , I heard the writers and and showrunner wanted to make it more charter driven then in season 5 all hell breaks lose ( so season 5 which will be the final , is suppose to be like seasons 1 -3 ) I hope so , as season 4 is weak. Season 3 was still great

[@mr.kool-aid5011]

@@michaelhawkins7389I really hope season 5 will be like season 1 that season was gold

[@JBD915]

ima disagree with one thing, I HATE the comic ending. its so trash and im glad the show is doing something different. HOWEEVER, this season sucks lol

[@ControllerAkimbo]

Did you read the comic bro? you npc just watch a youtube video by alternatehistory and decide the comic is trash without reading it

[@zeynaviegas]

HL is still gonna try to take over in the show, actually. i just dont think theyre gonna kill every one. make kimiko and MM will survive, but i dont see frenchie survivng at all.

[@raptorjesus7563]

@@ControllerAkimbo The comic is widely known as being complete dogshit, especially the ending. You're allowed to enjoy things, the wide majority prefer the show over the comic because it's well, better.

[@ControllerAkimbo]

@@raptorjesus7563 this is such an odd take, the comics are a critique and parody of the early 2000s comic scene and the TV show is more of a contemporary parody of the modern MCU while also making fun of day politics, the show and the comic are nothing alike, I ask again have you actually read the comic? People say the ending is dog shit but Billy Butcher is x10 worse in the comics the the point of multiatling and killing kid supes, so his descent into madness isn't entirely out of left field.. if you have read the comics... I'm really sick of people trashing comics they just haven't read "the boys comic is trash" has the same energy as "spider verse fixed Miles" a trash generalization made of the comics by people who have never read them. The early Stan Lee and Steve ditki spiderman is a rough read but you don't see anyone calling them trash, because no one has read them, yet it's popular opinion that the comics eere good, kind of like how.its the popukar opinion that the boys comic is somehow bad

[@Shazam1998]

@@ControllerAkimbo I read the comics. I think its actual garbage compared to the show. And thats that.

[@samuellandin]

The only point you seem to be missing is the A-train’s story arc. No, he doesn’t go for the “I wanna help them but I’m also scared of Homelander so I can be a good guy boohoo 😢”, he gets ups and downs like any real person would do, and in post seasons he doesn’t care about helping the boys more than anything he wants to screw them over just as the other Seven. It was the events in season 3 (his brother getting crippled) that made him rethink his actions and consequently start a change of character. It seems like you’ve watched with such bad faith that you missed the entire point of his participation on that season

[@icequeensamwich9309]

The A-Train redemption arc is one of the most genuine and best parts of this season imo. I kinda wish that they hadn't had to spell out the moment with the little boy when he dropped MM off at the hospital though. It happening spoke enough for itself, and I feel like in previous seasons, they respected the viewers intelligence to know that we'd figure it out on our own.

[@vDeadbolt]

On top of that, he ignored why A-Train really went in a redemption arc. When he saved MM from a heart attack and put him on a stretcher, the reaction of that kid being starstruck seeing A-Train save a human being got to him. It made him reconsider everything up to that point and doubled down instead of just screwing over homelander and vought. Thats why his redemption arc is so well recieved.

[@immortaloser847]

Me personally i don't think s4 is bad. I think they're handling it well.

[@CineBites1]

Im glad you're digging it. liking things is just better than disliking them so we should treasure the media that gives us joy :)

[@fizban974]

With all the respect, i cannot see how you can say that

[@srensen9948sander]

😢sad that this was so much yapping without good criticism​@@CineBites1

[@Xeiruxx]

@@fizban974 Because certain people are able to think for themselves, they enjoy the media presented to them rather than criticize it for not aligning with their pseudo-idealistic political views.

[@fizban974]

@@Xeiruxx never mentioned anyone else reviews or any referencing to political views. I was just discussing the quality of this season (very poor, in my opinion). Your comment shows you are either a troll or paid to discredit criticism. There are better ways to earn your life, you know...

[@speeddemon5339]

I’m glad someone else believes that The Boys has fallen off. That whole ice rink scene was just dumb, especially when you consider the fact that Hughie should have been dead at the end of it. While Homelander didn’t know exactly where Hughie was along the section of vent he was crawling across, he did know which vent Hughie was in, which is why he lasers across it, but for some reason, Homelander doesn’t just cut that entire section of vent in half with Hughie in it, and just conveniently stops at random areas. Then there is also the fact that A-Train can just pick up Hughie at 900 mph, make a dozen turns, and have Hughie be completely fine. Remember how in season 1 there was a scene with a support group of people who were injured or disabled by supes, which established how fragile a human is in comparison to a Supe in The Boys universe, and how you can’t exactly expect a superhero with super speed or strength to just swoop you up, and you be absolutely fine? Well that scene, and every other scene that established how incompatible a normal human and getting saved by a super powered being are, were negated by A-Train being able to pick up Hughie and him being fine without ending up like wheelchair lady, or a person who stuck their head out the side window of a plane traveling at 700 mph. (Tek Knight breaking a woman’s back)

[@ralfderwerwurm6960]

A-Train picking up MM to take him to the hospital is this shit too. Mass inertia at those heigh veolcities would rip a human apart^^

[@dr.bright5670]

@@speeddemon5339 Maybe Hughie still has temp v in his blood?

[@enol1466]

​@@ralfderwerwurm6960 who...the fuck...cares? They always do this in the show??

[@raptorjesus7563]

@@ralfderwerwurm6960 Easiest answer to this questions is what If A-train's super speed defies the laws of physics. Homelander flying doesn't make any fucking logical sense, so neither does A-train's running. And it's a show about Superheros. Who gives a flying fuck about inertia

[@ralfderwerwurm6960]

@@raptorjesus7563 yeah, like a bubble around him ... but in the end, hard to explain logically^^

[@slackstarfish8133]

It’s definitely getting way better in the second half but the first half was by far the weakest the shows ever been. The stuff with frenchi has been awful and it ain’t because I’m homophobic, they just threw in a random character nobody even knows and expected us to care so much about it. It was just lazy, seems like they ran out of ideas

[@lowdistortion]

I agree with what you said, but the clear culture tone in how the director wanted to show his clear hatred of people on the right was annoying too. Coming from someone center left.

[@CineBites1]

i'm very far left and i found it annoying but there's already too much "the boys is woke" videos out and i thought the critique of the season deserved another angle not wieghed down by identity politics.

[@lowdistortion]

@@CineBites1I agree with you.

[@zeynaviegas]

GOT Season 1 & 2 -- The Boys season 1 (amazing) GOT Season 3 & 4 -- The Boys season 2 (amazing) GOT Season 5 -- The Boys season 3 (overall enjoyable, but has some noticeable flaws) GOT Season 6 & 7 -- The Boys season 4 (has some good bits, but has taken a turn for the worst) GOT Season 8 -- The Boys season 5???

[@CineBites1]

goodness, i hope not but also wouldnt be surprised. good comparison though

[@tristube]

The boys becoming game of thrones is actually the most perfect comparison I've ever heard someone draw

[@almightyegg8667]

Season 4 had some really good moments sprinkled in. I think because this is the first season they're really working off the script there's gonna be a few growing pains. But the season finale convinced me they got their shit together and are ready to wrap it up in season 5. Can't wait.

[@OperatorOG]

feels like nothing has happened this season

[@andrewsmith78926]

😂 then you didnt watch it

[@utterlybeef649]

Bruh hughies dad died (probably the best episodein the show), butcher is dying, Ryan's close to breaking himself off from homelander, starlights past gets brought up, HOMELANDERS past gets brought up, new interesting characters are introduced, atrain gets an atonement arc......just open your eyes or something man

[@OperatorOG]

@@utterlybeef649exactly. not much happened. But I guess the season did its job which was to setup season 4.

[@ryansteiner8858]

@@utterlybeef649Butcher was dying last season too and Ryan has gone back and forth and we don’t have anything conclusive. I do love A-trains arc though

[@Shome2049]

I too noticed the overabundance of male nudity and absence of female nudity, and got annoyed by it. They never miss a chance to include male nudity, I've been observing this pattern since season 3.

[@fizban974]

It is called subverting expectations

[@KiTY89]

No, it’s called Welcome to 2023.

[@dfqgoing_on6899]

@@fizban974 yeah expectations of a good show

[@pmb2054]

HAHAHA WELCOME TO WHAT WOMEN HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH SINCE THE BEGINNING OF FILM LMFAOOOOO

[@dfqgoing_on6899]

@@pmb2054 so how does reversing things make it any better?

[@TheSlick447]

I don't know man, The Boys doesn't seem like it's changed all that much to me. It's always had gross, over-the-top gore and humor. There's been some fun reveals and good acting bits, but I don't think I'd ever praise it for phenomenal writing, even back in season 1. Your examples are a little off too. Robin was DESIGNED for the audience to like her because she's murdered so early on. They want you to empathize with Hughie's loss. So comparing her to a future sub-plot romance of a completely different character is a bit irrelevant. Also, terrible take on Game of Thrones. It ended poorly, sure, but it was the biggest show for years and effectively changed television culture. Diminishing its impact because the ending was bad kind of reflects poorly on your opinions. "Forgotten like Game of Thrones"? You mean the show HBO has a current prequel series based on and two more in the works because they're desperate to recapture the success of the original? Totally forgotten...

[@dfqgoing_on6899]

dude GOT S8 will always be remembered as one the biggest fuck ups in entertainment history that will never have the cultural mainstay as something like BB. And also what do u mean by "designed" u mean well written ? Frenchie's fuck buddy comes out of nowhere to only derail the plot and all the BLM shit in S3 only further proves that this show is written hours before filming

[@zeynaviegas]

except that thing with colin is the whole reason a main character was absent through an entire episode. i dont think the colin thing was well written at all, i honestly found it really annoying. we all knew right from the beginning it wouldnt work. maybe if they didnt reveal it from the start! but left some clues along the way.

[@TheSlick447]

@@zeynaviegas Exactly my point. The writing is and always has been just alright.

[@Jkjoannaki]

The show treated rape differently in the first season than this one. First season rape is something serious and sad. This season, it's actually hilarious, haha hughie is assaulted, so funny

[@dfqgoing_on6899]

@@Jkjoannaki also notice how the gender is reversed

[@zibertcorumm]

5:22 YES! Why the smartest person in the world should be a nerd in a stuffy room and not the head of some company?

[@soggetbean987]

she stated that she didnt care for humans or helping humans hence why she isnt curing cancer or heading a company bc she simply dgaf forgot what ep it was she said that though

[@zibertcorumm]

@@soggetbean987 she still can carrying NASA or something

[@AleTitan]

​@@zibertcorummbut if she doesn't CARE, why would she bother?

[@abubakrakram6208]

@@AleTitan Boomer mentality: if you can, you should. Not wanting to do something, not being motivated towards it, is something some people just can't process.

[@TheBlueArmageddon]

She stated why in a scene... pay attention to the show

[@julianbalenzano6432]

“What impressed me is the Acting and writting” Season 4 Episode 4: AM I A JOKE TO YOU!!?? Antony Starr deserves a F*cking EMMY for his performance in that Ep, he was truly Psychotic!! 🥶🥶

[@enol1466]

Yea not gonna lie this video is yapping

[@TheSubsman23]

For real dude ​@@enol1466

[@zeynaviegas]

honestly, i dont think that excuses the problems. in later seaaons of GOT, there was good acting still, but the things happening were so ridiculous, we couldnt even pay attention to that.

[@JKBDTS]

​@@zeynaviegasBut acting specifically was mentioned

[@Fearlesskid123]

One great episode

[@FoxyGuyHere]

Final episode was crazy tho. Can't wait for season 5

[@grave_stne0]

I get your criticism but it's far from bad, yeah maybe it's the weakest season but it's definitely not bad

[@EntrEsprit]

i'd say it's pretty average as of now; it's hard to really call seasons of prestige tv bad (unless they are very obviously wasting time) because they'll always have some good bits and a couple of good episodes in the mix

[@showtime6310]

season 1 was good, everything from then on was slop. I think if you rewatch season 1 you will see how much the writting has degressed

[@grave_stne0]

@@showtime6310 i think the show's only got better each season, except season 4

[@showtime6310]

@@grave_stne0 media is subjective and all that so dont let me opinions affect your enjoyment of the show. But serisouly that is probably the worst fucking take i have ever heard on this platform, there are objective merits a good show can strive for and without a shadow of a doubt, these are not present post season 1

[@grave_stne0]

I won't let your opinions affect my enjoyment of the show, but THAT is the worst take I've heard

[@KnaYami]

Childish Gambino my beloved 0:05

[@cricketben6742]

Agreed in every aspect. It pains me to see so many people claiming the show got bad because it got "too woke". Its very nice that some people still understand the actual writing issues that sadly slowly ruin the show, not "wokeness". In my opinion they should have just wrapped it up with season 3 and killing homelander there. The issues of him not just murdering all of the boys got a little ridiculous in season 2 already and sesason 3 was stretching it very far with the ending. Now the boys is just a shallow boring shell of what it was in the beginning with the plot just going in circles forever. The corporate greed of capitalizing on a franchise that got big sadly almost always outweighs the possibility of an amazingly written story i suppose.

[@recklessnotion1899]

Damn sucks you see it that way because I'm enjoying the hell out of it, despite some of that bad writing choices. I guess I just don't look to deep into it since this has always been a goofy toilet humor type of show

[@jakehayward1993]

THIS!!!!! Since Season 3 ending, my appeal to show has dramatically dropped. However watching Season 3 back, I think my appeal actually dropped with the expectation the ending was going to go somewhere for it to just go back to the issues the protagonist had in Season 2. I'm not a fan of the amount of the humour either. It feels less funny and more questionable sexual activities which I end up just skipping now. I missed the shock factor, the fear, to now just 'ugh not this again.'

[@rudyh721]

Yeah, this is a good argument. I felt this earlier where it seems like they’re writing backwards. Writing backwards isn’t inherently bad, but it becomes obvious, kinda breaking the fourth wall. And the Frenchie/Kimiko and Ryan’s daddy problem are both drawn out. The one improvement I feel from earlier seasons is that they’re toning the blackmail down a bit. When the only way that the boys can win against vought is blackmail, (season 2 is where this shit peaked. Blackmailing noir away, blackmailing homelander away at the end, and more.) and It’s a bit different here.

[@CineBites1]

that's a fair point. if the show was just three seasons it also woulda helped avoid hitting the same points like blackmail over and over again

[@PoxFilms]

Not gonna lie this entire video felt like nitpicking. Homelander is not stupid, he knows this is the work culture he’s cultivating. He’s trying to change that and empower his team so he can have more people on his side when he goes to overthrow the government. The show isn’t aimless at all and by introducing the supe supremacist in Sister Sage they further pushed this along. The show doesn’t feel aimless, They are pushing straight to the grand finale where Homelander tries to over throw the government. Butcher was also only asking MM if Sage had any physical powers, it doesn’t make him look dumb at all. Ryan is a child clearly he would still be struggling over this turmoil. A-train has been going on a redemption arc for a while now, why are you complaining about that. Yes Collin and Frenchie was handled poorly but a subplot that has maybe half an hour put into it shouldn’t make or break a show. Homelander is not one note, in fact after episode 4 we gain a much deeper understanding over the mind of Homelander and why he is like he is. He’s not being cartoonishly evil or anything. He is simply acting the way he has always wanted to, ever since the start of the show. He just wasn’t allowed because of societal norms. The comedy and writing is still top notch especially in today’s climate. I don’t see why you would complain about the grotesque scenes either given that that has always been part of the charm and appeal of the show. My personal theory is the only reason the audience scores are dropping is because the commentary is getting a little too scathing for a curtain side of the community

[@dizzlegrizzle1919]

SPOILERS (so dont read) sister sage feels like a convenient plot tool. when things go right it is because her. when things go wrong it is because of her plan. yet she is the smartest person in the world because they just say she is. and speaking of conveniance butcher looking like he is gonna die the entire season just to look great in the end. starlight losing her powers until the end. This show is about the boys wanting to kill homelander but they seem perfectly fine with his existence and vise versa. homelander knew where they were and sent the friggen Deep? after all the shit and rage he could not spare 10 minutes to whack them himself? The plot armor is insane. How many times can kimiko die and then not die. same goes for everyone. They get in impossible dangerous situations and are all just fine. Why the bisexual love triangle and then jail and blah blah with Frenchie just to return to same dynamic. I feel like so many pointless things happened. spinning its wheels and lazy writing all over. Also what message is this show giving? abusing women is wrong but its ok for a guy to get raped for a whole episode after his dad died

[@sabgogo7393]

homelander is soooo stupid

[@dasavagecabbage9483]

@@dizzlegrizzle1919 with kimiko its seemed clear to me since season 3 the only real threat to her survival is losing her powers

[@master_shakem3291]

very good comment i agree with most everthing you said

[@PoxFilms]

@@dizzlegrizzle1919 I have a problem with most of what you said here. Number one, Sister Sage’s plan made a lot of sense. It was explained fairly explicitly and I don’t see an issue with them saving the reveal of her full plan until the last episode. How else are you supposed to write someone who is literally the smartest person on the planet. Her motive is just being bored and “seeing if she could” take over the world and that makes complete sense for a character like that. Number two, I feel it was pretty god damn obvious that that is where they were taking Butcher’s character since they introduced the blackouts. Kessler taking over was set up and foreshadowed throughout the entire season, idk why you have an issue with it. Number three, Kimiko’s powers have not changed since the start of the show. She has regeneration, it’s one of her powers. Why the fuck are you complaining about Kimoko’s Super Powers working like they always have. That’s like complaining that it’s unrealistic and boring to That Deadpool or Wolverine keep coming back from fatal injuries. Of fucking course they do, it’s one of their fucking powers. Number four, Homelander sent the Deep and Black Noir to deal with The Boys because A) he was busy and B) The Deep literally just asked Homelander the scene before that to prove his loyalty so of course Homelander would send him. Again I agree the stuff with Frenchie was handled fairly poorly but again it wasn’t bad enough to make or break the season and the Frenchie plot only took up at most like half an hour of the total runtime of the season. So yes it’s a fair critique but it’s not bad enough of a plot point that it should be torn apart by every single person who brings up this season. Again it just sounds like nit you’re nit picking if you ask me

[@lorm5439]

Season 3 with Solider Boy was BIS though. I loved it

[@VideoEssayWatcher5484]

By far the worst thing about this video are when you imply the show was better when it “stuck to the comics” or would be better if it “stuck to the comics” considering it only manages to be as complex, hard hitting, and satirically poignant as if is because of how DIFFERENT it is to the comics. As everyone who knows about the substanceless edge fest with a side of baby-eating cesspool (yes Homelander actually does this in the “source material”) that is the comics would agree. But lets get into why everything about this video is wrong. The gross out became more extreme because the show started playing more into its comedic elements, its not always meant to make you disgusted it’s absurd black comedy because the show is not JUST a drama it’s also very clearly trying to be a comedy, which if you don’t like is completely subjective. Having “the same bored tropes” isn’t reusing previous plot points it’s SLOWLY CONTINUING THE ARC until it reaches a conclusion, such as Atrain SLOWLY deciding to become good until SPOILERS after he felt like a true hero that was looked up to by a kid, and ends up being the man who convinces M.M himself to keep helping The Boys in the name of protecting his family from the world politically deteriorating. Ryan is NOT in a will they wont they, he started building a relationship with Butcher whilst slowly starting to hate Homelander more and more while having scenes showing some of Ryans corruption under Homelanders wing, it is continuing the complex ongoing development of BOTH of these relationships and if he just up and left Homelander for Butcher he would want to kill Butcher but at the very least take Ryan back even if it was against his will. Him being upset at the fact that he’s surrounded by ass kissers just shows you don’t understand how sensitive and complex of a character Homelander is, back in season 1 we see how he appreciates Maeve because of her bluntness he mistakes for honesty, and we still saw him sometimes get visibly offended or uncomfortable by her snarky or aggressive comments.

[@nerooyeye2196]

Thank you🙏

[@thejackal9834]

Holy fuck dude, would it kill you to break this into paragraphs?

[@BertyMcBertBert]

​@@thejackal9834bro cant read

[@VideoEssayWatcher5484]

@@thejackal9834 fine its in paragraphs now 😂

[@thejackal9834]

​@@BertyMcBertBert I'm sure he can read, he typed it out didn't he?

[@icequeensamwich9309]

S4's finale was incredible, and personally I'm a fan of A Train FINALLY getting his redemption arc, but honestly, the rest of the season was pretty mid. It's nice to see someone with genuine critiques, because I feel like I've got this weird necessity to defend this past season, because of all the "The Boys have gone woke" bs that's been all over the internet, as though the show hasn't always been this way. (Like people being mad about Frenchie and Colin, not bc the relationship is poorly written, with low stakes that never go anywhere, but because Colin is a man, completely ignoring that Frenchie has been openly bisexual since S1. Like, anyone with eyes could tell he wasn't fucking up watching Mallory's grandkids for "just a friend".)

[@Katetanic]

No. Season 4 isn’t bad because it’s woke. …..But being woke doesn’t help.

[@Vilgax00]

Yeah,that is sumps it up.

[@anieltavares7991]

It’s woke since day one 😂 wtf

[@Vilgax00]

@@anieltavares7991 politics in first 2 season advanced the plot. But in season 3 and 4 it feels like a chore to get through. They should just cut to the chase and focused more on Soldier boy in season 3. And Butcher's tumor in season 4.

[@ianshaw6997]

While I don't entirely agree with all of this I appreciate an actual critique

[@goatbrook9065]

Its crazy i swear i remember people saying season 2 was kinda mid but now people are saying season 2 was great, thats interesting. Hell i think season 3 is better than 2 easily and season 4 is still pretty good i think more people maybe are just getting tired of it or something. And i think that is the point of homelander, getting upset that no one woulda stood up to him but he kills them if they do, thats why he is insane, he says he can handle criticism but he really cant, his ego wont allow for that to happena and he cant see that. I dont think thats a writing flaw thats his character

[@gyounce1]

I agree. Season 2, I actually have a hard time remembering because it wasn't very impactful. My issue with season 3, however, was really mainly about the amount of stuff shoved into 10 episodes. I thought it would have benefitted from being a bit longer so we could focus on the individual plots more easily. All in all, I liked it, though. Season 4 seems to be doing the opposite of the previous one and instead dividing its story between the last two seasons (haven't seen the finale yet, so I could be wrong, but the story seems to be stretching the plot carefully). I personally don't like season 4 too much, and it's due to the inability to focus on any plot (because there are too many, and because none of them seem to go anywhere, right now), and also that I don't care for those plots. I think I'm happy to have the characters get individual and personal stories, but all at once is awkward. Anywho, regardless of what any of us feel, we're all likely going to still be excited for the final season. I don't have high expectations for it, but I'm committed to completing the series.

[@jayontemorris4454]

Why is no one mentioning that characters in the show knew information they shouldn’t

[@jeremyhall2727]

Season 4 is bloody awesome. I'm loving everything about it so far

[@Padlock_Steve]

you like the action sequences you dont like the show

[@aboba2095]

@@Padlock_Steve ure white, no soul at all

[@jcbgamez]

You like she hulk don’t you

[@finixmoon127]

These replies, I swear to God... Are you guys just straight up incapable of letting someone enjoy something that you don't personally enjoy ?

[@197cm_chad]

@@Padlock_Steve there is little action this season😭tf you mean

[@ulysses847]

What I miss is supes being threats. Remember when homelander was actually scary, we knew barely anything about him. Now he just has casual chats with the boys and isnt scary

[@undriftedpop788]

Dude idc how much hate it gets im still enjoying Season 4

[@CineBites1]

Ok

[@undriftedpop788]

@@CineBites1 uhh .. sorry for not agreeing with you ?

[@naveedahmed2417]

😅no need to apologise man, You do you ​@@undriftedpop788

[@andrewsmith78926]

​@@undriftedpop788😂😂😂

[@CineBites1]

@@undriftedpop788 sorry? i said ok. you're allowed to like it.

[@PixelSubstream]

I never understood how Sage was able to tell that Homelander was washing his hands too much or his hair was being dyed more often. Like is that something you can actually see visually or did she just know?

[@puchiperez1113]

The worst part of season 4 so far is Homelander’s lack of urgency when Hughie was in the vents. He could have easily flown up there and used his laser vision to finish him off. Instead he shoots his laser beam aimlessly because… plot armor?

[@finixmoon127]

It's veryyy in character for him to be too lazy to use anything other than his laser eyes

[@Vitou777]

@@finixmoon127 he could've used his laser eyes to kill him tho? He even has x-ray vision too, so there's no way he could miss him

[@finixmoon127]

@@Vitou777 It's already been said a million times at this point, but most vents are coated in galvanised steel which contains zinc - that explains why Homie was aiming like a Stormtrooper during that scene.

[@Vitou777]

@@finixmoon127 zamn, didn't know that.

[@bruhmomentos5203]

@@finixmoon127could it have hurt to have a 3 second line mentioning that tho, like homelander saying “fucking zinc” or something? Otherwise it looks like a cop out that they expect the fans to know the make up of vents and that they happen to be zinc. Literally a 2 second throw away line fixes that

[@buniondaas2428]

I think you're missing a big part of the show. Yes some plots take time or become old but they become evolve. A-train has been part of the seven for years, it wouldn't make sense for him to turn back just because one supe crippled his brother. The show takes its time to show us their motivations towards their actions. If it was rushed, there's wouldn't be any suspense and there would be a major event every 2 seconds. You gotta keep in mind multiple characters are living simultaneously. There was only 1 out of those 3 "hallucinations" that was an actual hallucination and that's butcher. The deep can litterally talk to animals, that's one of his powers, not a hallucination. Homelander's mental breakdown is not him hallucinating, the mirror breaking is a stylistic way of showing us his different faces and thus, makes it easier for us to understand his inner conflict. Butcher has super-brain-cancer, which give him proper hallucinations on which he can project, once again, his good vs evil side.

[@goldenspeedguyyt3633]

Can you please bring up how they nerfed homelander from not being able to see theough walls, when he catches hughie in S4 when hes in the vents, homelander cannot see him for some reason even when he left the vents and got on the roof. And instead of seeing Atrain with Hughie on the roof he instead walks slowly and opens a damn door, yk youd think if you have superman powers and your enemy is right on the other side of the wall, youd probably just fly through it.

[@goldenspeedguyyt3633]

I cannot reiterate how dumb the fight choreography is. Like the scene in S4 Ep7 where Black Noir starts flying and a machine gun...pushes him through a window???? Like bro wtf was that bullshit.

[@CineBites1]

yo, obviously the vents in the ice rink are all made of zinc. the only metal he can't see through lol

[@goldenspeedguyyt3633]

@@CineBites1 ig the walls and scieling and the door could have been made of zinc

[@whackyzachy1482]

@@CineBites1do they even make vents out of zinc?

[@CineBites1]

@@whackyzachy1482 lol no

[@MATI640]

I don't understand the argument like The Boys strays too far from the source material The Boys was different from the comics from season 1 because the comics are crap

[@CineBites1]

i was just saying they coulda ended season 3 by using the comic ending. all the pieces were set up to end it that way.

[@harukakonishi6129]

You sound like cinema sins. Youre complaining about a lot of stuff that you half understood. A lot of your complaints feel half assed and petty.

[@trevorsamuel1114]

GET OUT

[@asoggypankcake2019]

I personally think season 3 was more of a world building season with the introduction of soldier boy and i think why ghe plot hasn't moved foward is mostly because they need to tie up loose ends on characters to give them more depth. I personally like A-train this season

[@youngflamemp3]

I don't take The Boys seriously, I just watch it & have fun doing so

[@megapistol64]

I still don't understand how any fan of the show can call criticisms like these "shallow", they just cope honestly

[@zacyrocks7908]

Ths was an awesome critique of a show that though i think is worse than the early seasons is still definitely gpod and worth watching. With A-train i think his redemption works and its notnold he was always just bad never ‘will they wont they’ this is a new arc for him. Frenchie i completely agree with his relationship with Collin is terrible and adds nothing to the actual story whether he was a guy or girl, however, the critique with Kimiko is invalid because it is strongly outlined in season three that they are just friends. Ryan has been going on for ages, however if its just between homelander and butcher its inly been a seasons worth. Season 4 is far from perfect but i don’t personally find it ‘played out’ but regardless thankyou for providing actual thought provoking criticism unlike the bulk of people calling this show woke garbage. I really enjoyed this video dispite the fact that i don’t necessarily agree with it.

[@CineBites1]

i think we disagree on a few points but this stuff isn't math. at a certain point our feelings are going to be vibes based and thats going to be personal to each person. i'm glad the show isn't turning you off.

[@zacyrocks7908]

Spoilers for finale***** The point about Kimiko aged like milk lol but i stand by the rest

[@CineBites1]

@@zacyrocks7908 lol

[@JonesyCreations]

I can't really describe it but season 1 and 2 just felt different

[@codmvinesyt5865]

Y'all didn't realise that they were saving the best for the finale changed my complete opinion on this season

[@gyounce1]

Good to know. I haven't seen the finale yet, so I'm hopeful.

[@gyounce1]

Ok, you were right. The finale almost redeemed the entire season. Season 5 is looking really good already.

[@randomone4832]

I agree, it really picked up in the last two episodes. Particularly, the last 10 mins had me on edge.

[@anotherperson2730]

So just because they have 3 good scenes that redeems the 3 seasons of slop?

[@simplesim3534]

​@@anotherperson2730 if you think it's 3 seasons of slop, you have your mind made up and nothing we can say can change that. It's all opinions anyway.

[@hylianmango8272]

I think the biggest problem is nothing has even happened for 3 seasons, season 1 was important, and then after that nothing that changed anything happened, characters never change and always reset to how they were at the start with the exception mostly of Butcher. Literally the entirety of season 2, 3 and most of 4 other than the last episode can be cut out and nothing would different. They keep introducing something that turns out to mean nothing.

[@godyoutubers5936]

While I agree with most of the points in the show i think saying homelander being upset with the 7 isn’t character assassination we’ve been shown on multiple occasions that homelander is contradictory and insane like when he questions why a-train would kill his own kind and even more surprised when he finds out a-train is the leak in s4 and speaking of a-train I don’t think it’s fair to say his plot is played out because if he immediately jumped ship in s2 because a guy he didn’t give a fuck about said thank you rather than him feeling genuine remorse after his brother could have been killed is a way worse alternative but like i said I enjoyed the video and respect the criticism 👍

[@platinumbproductions8108]

The problem with sister Sage was well said, it’s important when adding new characters like “smartest person alive” that you give proper explanation for why it took this long for someone in the main cast to utilize that intelligence.

[@stinkydiapey2154]

Yeah there was no explanation of her plan either. They didn’t drop any hints at all as the season progressed. Shit just plays out and Sage goes “hehe my plan all along!” Lame

[@DreadfulJaxgames]

Season 4 is peak so far imo

[@rizvanzaman505]

I think season 4 was boring for me because of all the filler. I do think it's getting hate for the wrong reasons, if the writers want to include their opinions is fine. Also I don't like how bad the writing got. Inconsistent character development. It feels like a waste of my time.

[@catch21run98]

This shit is horrible lmao. To no one’s surprise the story is going nowhere.

[@Shome2049]

So according to you, s4 is better than S1,2&3?

[@yaboiii360]

@@Shome2049 Yes, pretty sure thats what they meant by ‘peak’

[@DreadfulJaxgames]

@@Shome2049 no 💀

[@CraxiPostazione]

Agree, season 4 is not "woke" , is just a copy of season 2 with the same boring joke of "right-wingers have weird fetish and they're racist" repeated in loop, it's not "woke" , it's just cringe and repetitive

[@worgenlord3424]

I always felt something weird about s4 but couldnt put into words. Now you helped a lot.

[@CineBites1]

That's awesome :)

[@snottiland]

Best breakdown of all the problems with the season ive seen so far🙏

[@kylejackson7913]

I love y’all have all these “criticisms” while never acknowledging what it’s doing good if not better compared to the original seasons. Am I saying it’s perfect no but none of the original seasons were perfect so I’m not sure why y’all are expecting perfection now. The show has always been like this so I’m not sure what the problem is.

[@wakandanbuttermilk4985]

Simple, the first 2 seasons had a good story as the top priority and these last 2 have shock moments as the top priority. It’s also a lot less subtle with its parody.

[@lewisjackson7221]

The main issue isn't perceived "woke" it's that they abandoned what Ennis wrote. Ennis KNOWS writing. They shouldn't have dropped his narrative.

[@Padlock_Steve]

the people who would watch every marvel movie are the same people who watch the boys

[@Devonlewis537]

FINALLY SOMEONE SPEAKS UP INSTEAD OF DEFENDING THIS SHOW

[@Bentancooker]

i genuinely love this new season

[@KingAshtray]

I don't see how you do

[@bingewatcherfanatic996]

Well while I do disagree with you on season 3 being bad because I think season 3 was better than season 2. But finally someone saying what I've been feeling about this season it's not woke it's badly written and a huge example is Gen V season 1 episode 7 and 8 which set up a huge plot that I thought The Boys season 4 would have tackled with which could've made season 4 fantastic.

[@fizban974]

Great review. It's GOT all over again: previously carefully crafted characters and motivations tossed in the bin, gross moments for cheap spectacle, plot lines going nowhere, overconfident writers in the almighty power of the franchise whatever (crap) stories they write, who cares of the source material. Season 4 is boring as fuck, but Season 5 will likely end as a turd. And it is GOT again. RIP

[@austinwhalen8217]

Lot of words trynna act smart for someone with zero media literacy 🤣 it’s ok to be stupid man wear it loud and proud

[@Airdog456]

Spot on

[@saucevc8353]

About the Homelander being an “idiot” for firing people who don’t support him but being surprised that all his supporters are sycophants: I think you’re misunderstanding what Homelander really wants. Homelander HATES people who challenge him and stand up to him and he still does. What he really wants is people who unquestioningly love him out of their own free will. Consider the people Homelander was closest to in previous seasons. He loved Mallory who he saw as a motherly figure, until he realized that she really just feared him. He loved Stormfront, who never feared him and truly did love him, until he realized it was just because she thought he was the Aryan ideal. He tries to give Ryan all the wealth and power and admiration that he always wanted as a child because he thinks that will get Ryan to truly love him back. He loved Black Noir as well, who always did what he was told because he really saw Homelander as a friend. Homelander didn’t expect that attitude from the normal humans working under him, who are no better than animals in his eyes, but he thought his fellow Supers in the 7 at least had a little bit of genuine love for him. The realization that even they only obey him out of fear is devastating and enraging. Maybe he should have expected that given how he has been treating them but I also don’t think it’s unrealistic for a character like Homelander to be intelligent in some aspects but delusional in others. Consider an abusive parent or partner who thinks of their manipulation as “tough love”and still feels entitled to the victim’s love in return. Are they stupid? No, many abusers are very intelligent, manipulation requires that. But their entitlement clouds their perception when it comes to the consequences of their actions. Homelander probably sees his abuse of the 7 in the same light.

[@camerontrofinoff4942]

This new season is great, you are nitpicking and biased. Bye bye

[@HallowzDev]

D1 glazer

[@yousawnothin]

I mean it’s entertaining but this season is no where near as good as the first couple of seasons. The show is formatted where continuity happens, but it never affects the core formula they have developed which is water downed to “the boys investigate a messed up superhero, we get shock value, homelander loses it. But no one dies.” Which is pretty entertaining and that’s what season 4 has been. The problem is that I feel like we’re getting bits of story lines that SHOULD have been covered earlier but were only saved so the writers had an excuse to keep the character alive. It’s extremely obvious that they’re afraid to kill off their characters because they all love working with each other and it would feel sad if they were left out. The show is not great but it’s still better than anything that’s been pumped out lately.

[@Journey_to_who_knows]

Slorp slorp

[@dillon7748]

I personally was out after season 2. It's been a while so I would have to watch it again to remember all the issues I had with it, but one huge example I'd point to was Starfire killing an innocent man for no reason, and explicitly saying she didn't feel bad about it, and the show acting like that was a morally understadable position when it was actually just murder. It seems like there were lots of character ruining issues like that, but like I said I'd have to rewatch.

[@garnetnelson1419]

This channel is bad

[@Euph0rical]

6:50 don’t forget about Frenchie’s random hallucinations! Out of nowhere he is hallucinating blood as balloons and other stuff 😂

[@CarlosHernandez-vx7ih]

He takes drugs before that scene lmao

[@Anakin_slywalker]

Its far better then the comics for sure tho

[@shieldgenerator7]

2:55 the octopus girlfriend bothered me so much. most people dont know this, but octopi dont reproduce until the very end of their life cycle. by f***ing the octopus, he could be sentencing her to an early grave. it seems to me the writers also didnt know this

[@ethanmcconnell647]

y’all trippin i’m loving this season

[@slimmcharles]

Cause you’re probably gay

[@dizzlegrizzle1919]

SPOILERS (so dont read) sister sage feels like a convenient plot tool. when things go right it is because her. when things go wrong it is because of her plan. yet she is the smartest person in the world because they just say she is. and speaking of conveniance butcher looking like he is gonna die the entire season just to look great in the end. starlight losing her powers until the end. This show is about the boys wanting to kill homelander but they seem perfectly fine with his existence and vise versa. homelander knew where they were and sent the friggen Deep? after all the shit and rage he could not spare 10 minutes to whack them himself? The plot armor is insane. How many times can kimiko die and then not die. same goes for everyone. They get in impossible dangerous situations and are all just fine. Why the bisexual love triangle and then jail and blah blah with Frenchie just to return to same dynamic. I feel like so many pointless things happened. spinning its wheels and lazy writing all over. Also what message is this show giving? abusing women is wrong but its ok for a guy to get raped for a whole episode after his dad died

[@NullVoid-rm7jm]

0:48 God it is heartbreaking that StormFront is gone.

[@zajko3113]

Thank god they do what they want with the show and don't listen to videos like this. A-Train redemption is great and Ryan being conflicted with which path should he choose is great too.

[@jeagous]

exactly, i feel like the op of this video is just bitching around

[@d4rkl3g3nds9]

@@jeagousit is

[@d4rkl3g3nds9]

people liking the show vs people who dont feels like starlighters vs homelanders

[@primenumberbuster404]

Same pinch. I feel this season is much more character driven. Season 5 would be banger and Season 4 was a decent character arc lore.

[@adwarriorlegend1]

Actually it is Although that’s not the only problem it is one of them

[@Mr.EFridge]

You literally had me in the first half with me agreeing with you through the frenchy arc, i was open to the idea of sister sage being recruted by the boys and warm to the Ryan thoughts, while disagreeing with the a train thoughts, but you lost it when bringing up Homelanders hypocrisy and the voices in peoples heads. Yes Homelander is a hypocrite we all know, he does not even know what he wants. even sister sage comments on how even if her plan goes through he wont be happy and despit saying he will listen, still punishes her for her plans. You can think its dumb but at least call it how it is. Regarding the voices, the deeps voices are literally real, he can speak to animals. Butcher is supposed to be homelanders opposit so it does not surprise me to see he also has his own version of voices gained from the mass in his head. They are even used differently with homelander having his own personalities speaking to him as butcher has his past demons being the devil and angel on his shoulder.

[@nightmare9163]

I really hope that in the fifth season Kripke focuses more on the plot than on politics and leaves it aside a little (And that we have a scene of Butcher killing supes with his powers)

[@dr.bright5670]

Season 4 is great, if anything boys season 3 was the stinker. The dialogue is 1000 times better this season than the last one. Last season it seemed like everything went downhill. But this season the dialogue is snappy and the characters feel like people again. Edit: Season 4 is going downhill fast

[@ProfessorJonathanWright]

This guy's a Dark Triad personality.

[@gyrozeppeli7869]

Homelander complaints are not legitimate sorry. He is shown over and over to be a psychopathic hypocrite so it makes sense that he constantly contradicts himself. He states himself multiple times that he can “do whatever the fuck he wants”.

[@KublaVeruca]

I'd have to agree with you on this one for the most part. Almost everything you mentioned... In addition to them really just hitting you over the head with the anti-right wing stuff... I mean it was always there, but never so blatant... And to be honest, I tend to lean to the left on about 80% of shit... cripes, man... One of the moments I did like was that Sister Soldier had to lobotomize herself to enjoy anything... But initially it was just hinted at. You saw a bloody instrument on a table, and kinda had to figure it out. Then in the next episode it's just a vehicle for extreme bullshit...

[@takeuchi5760]

Its so not. Yeah it was not as good as the other seasons, but the last episode was very good. Also, you bring up characterizing Ashley in s1 and the wig stuff in s4, but conveniently skip over her scenes with A-train in s4. Most of this video was nitpicking and straw-manning like that and not being patient with the story or not getting what it is. This is just riding the hype train of hating on the new season.

[@Dillondeitz]

Season 4 made me hate every single character I loved.

[@101.4ever]

your negativity is what makes the show bad

[@traiges414]

And your simplistic approach that criticism of any kind is just "negativity" is the reason the authors don't even bother to write something good

[@HallowzDev]

This was a really well made video

[@CineBites1]

Thanks :)

[@BiggestBirdonMars]

I hope yall take time to finish sesson 4 and review this show again Cuz this season has been a banger but yall just wanna hate everything

[@anthonyhamlin16]

This show is shit! Its all shock value, no longer good writing. How can you say this season was great? This entire season was filler and boring af!

[@CypraniusR]

@@anthonyhamlin16 watch the finale

[@nygmla]

Im tired of seeing reviews claiming wokeness destroyed the show, lol those reviewers live in their own bubble, where they obsessed over labelling everything woke for clicks. The crime for season 4, it has become boring. Gratuitous violence and sex scenes, doesn't compensate for the bad writing. Its clear the writers have run out of fresh ideas, even though they have a lot of source material from the comics. But they think their ideas are better. But they are recycling the same stuff over and over again from last 3 seasons. This show should have had 2 seasons only and ended on a high. Like there have been great limited series in the UK and people still remember how great the show is. But hollywood cant help it, they want to milk everything until its dry. Its boring now.

[@tailedbeastsai9282]

I’m confused yall watched it for the plot ?!?! Go watch breaking bad or something 😭😭

[@tailedbeastsai9282]

It’s a crazy superhero show as advertised 😂

[@dfqgoing_on6899]

@@tailedbeastsai9282 bro that's the dumbest argument ever

[@KingAshtray]

​@@tailedbeastsai9282Why can't we get both like season 1 😐

[@Lorentz_Driver]

They have become what they set out to destroy The worst inconsistency that made me stop watching was the hypocrisy. They want to not be like other hero shows, yet play out the same tropes. They want to be progressive and show the horrible truths of female life, then show a man getting sexually assaulted for laughs. It's a joke. Go watch Invincible.

[@thejackal9834]

I hate woke culture, but I can usually look past that. But my God. The writing in general is awful. There's so many plot holes now, the focus is on shock factor and the comedy doesn't even hold a candle to season one. I've not laughed or even smiled at a single joke this season. Truly a show!

[@user-gm4hw6uo9l]

I feel like the comics and later seasons of the show are what Watchmen could have been.