The Brainewave | Richard Braine Interview

[@Liam-uh3pr]

This guy seems good enough to be leader, but I still think batten is the best man for the job.

[@srs5933]

This chap will handle the media better, not one of Gerard's strengths unfortunately..

[@Bushflare]

Batten should be allowed to stand on the sheer principle of it, however Mr. Braine here is also a fantastic candidate (and he looks a lot less evil than Batten does, which is sorta petty but since when has optics been anything but?)

[@Bushflare]

@@pennybunny I would argue that there is a limit to how far we can go on principle alone. If we are unwilling to fix that which we see as broken then what is even the point of Politics in the first place? If we want to do right by Batten then fixing what is broken in UKIP is a better goal to fight for than jumping ship the moment the party doesn't seem to be going your way. (Which is what Farage and all the people who said UKIP is far-right did, btw.)

[@flintflyer575]

@@pennybunny Richard Braine has been ardent in his support of defending Tommy Robinson and Gerard Batten

[@MrDanno2]

Screw your optics we're going in!

[@tzuyd]

Less evil looking than Batten?!? This guy literally looks like a Bond villain.

[@lauren1655]

Richard has recruited Gerard to be his deputy should he win the leadership of UKIP.

[@hazzardalsohazzard2624]

My parents told me they'd throw me out if I voted UKIP. I'm not sure if they were serious.

[@d4n4nable]

Move out.

[@tdannyboy]

Your parents are terrible people.

[@HFamilyDad]

I've got a spare room if you need it

[@Young-wx4ux]

What party are they, labour?

[@quackhouseproductions5572]

My wife said she’d divorce me if I ran for UKIP.

[@michaeljames4904]

I love Gerard, but anyone who knows anything about the top of UKIP, will tell you that he oscillates between being inspiring and quite understandably dispirited, after three decades in politics, longing for retirement. Braine is the perfect candidate because he’s a Battenite, and will allow Gerard to coach him.

[@heronsdoor4658]

He's also said he will make Batten deputy.

[@Nocure92]

He seems like a good guy. If Batten won't get to run, Braine seems like a good choice.

[@cmikles1]

Nocure92 it says a lot about him that he will not stand if Batten is standing. He seems to be loyal to Batten. If Batten isn’t allowed to run, I think Braine would be a good bet. He was on the BBC once and the anchor was trying to put UKIP into the far right box. He would have none of it. He kept batting her points down and kept that slight smirk all the while. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4ebnHyYr7eSo5I

[@whyzen2081]

Richard has eyes that make you feel like he stole one of your chips, and you think you saw him do it, but you're not too sure, but he slyly confirms it with a glance.

[@apanda0299]

Oddly specific but I like it

[@lewisreynolds5283]

This won the Internet for the day imo 😂😂

[@Matmus]

What a comment. 👏

[@dylbob9000]

is someone trying to make balloon animals quietly in the corner?

[@loken9124]

I actually feel better and more intelligent after listening to this which is rare these days when listening to politicians

[@JesusFriedChrist]

_B R A I N E W A V E_

[@NJRanirishnirvana]

BRAINETRAINE!

[@crackmastergeneral]

Great memes on the horizon.

[@talleyrand3551]

Why isn’t this guy running for leader? No shade on Battern but he actually looks that he wants to be here.

[@EmanuelHoogeveen]

He *is* running for leader - from what I understand he entered the race when he found out that Gerard got prevented from running.

[@heronsdoor4658]

He said he will make Batten deputy if he's elected.

[@cmikles1]

I saw on his Twitter that he would not run for leader as long as Batten was willing to run. I think Braine thinks Batten is the best for the job, but if he cannot stand then Braine will.

[@kdemetter]

'Youngsters' like Carl Benjamin.

[@LiquidSwan]

K. De Metter Karl Boomerman

[@clownworldcartoons]

He is a youngster in political terms.

[@VileVeil]

Get on the Braine Train and get Batten as deputy. Screw the NEC!

[@davidbrinnen]

I would have voted for Gerard, if he'd have been allowed to stand, but this fellow Richard, well... he speaks well and I like a lot of the thing he says.

[@sunnyjim1355]

I didn't disagree with a single thing he said - especially on the north/south working/middle class divide and outright bigotry, which I have been subjected to all my life.

[@stuboy261]

I didnt know what to expect going into this interview but god dam this blew my socks off

[@cmikles1]

stuboy261 check out him on the BBC a while back. He handles himself well. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4ebnHyYr7eSo5I

[@lamb_link]

Oooh, this is big braine time.

[@Woodzta]

Love Richard Braine. Glad you had a sit down with him!

[@milpertitchalot6432]

Richard has Clint Eastwood eyes.

[@taffythegreat1986]

Milpert Itchalot and Lee van cleef

[@kevbrav]

The hell he does... Lol

[@scatton61]

David Essex eyes

[@sevenproxies4255]

If economists could really predict the financial future as much as they'd like us all to believe... Then why aren't they all massively rich and successful stock brokers or currency traders? By their reasoning, they should be able to predict all market trends and purchasing behaviours before they happen, and so would know EXACTLY in which stocks or currencies to invest their money in to turn a profit. Yet remarkably few economy professors actually trade in any stocks or currencies.

[@Warphorn]

Richard: "... they end up inevitably surrounded by 'Yes Men' …" Carl: "Yup."

[@jamesbraine]

I wonder if I'm related to him. Braine is a rather rare surname. If you read this Richard, my grandfather was a politician so you should know if you're related in some way.

[@LiquidSwan]

James Braine Bernard Braine? Baron Braine of Wheatley?

[@thehubbabubba667]

Was he mayhaps Ser BigBrain Mc Braine of Brainchester?

[@lewisreynolds5283]

Was it a certain. Mr Braine, most famously known for his World domination antics with a so called, Pinky?

[@jamesbraine]

@@thehubbabubba667 spot on

[@jamesbraine]

@@lewisreynolds5283 No that's my cousin

[@MrRABC1]

If Gerard isnt allowed to run for leader again UKIP is finished. *WE NEED GERARD AT HELM*

[@kreature6618]

Gotta say this guy seems a good equal.

[@MrRABC1]

@@kreature6618 I agree he seems pretty awake to many of the important issues that Mr Batten was also concerned about but Mr Batten *DESERVES* to be able to run. Its the *corruption* that I cant stand and the injustice of some privileged few deciding what can and cant happen when the *MAJORITY* want the opposite. Everywhere we look these days there is corruption and injustice.

[@ReddwarfIV]

Vote for a new NEC.

[@DammedMan.]

The only thing i ind hard to get behind is the idea that zero hours contract are a good thing, if you work on a zero hours contract then you normally can't get a mortgage or a loan because you have no guaranteed income. This make any kind of higher purchase very difficult and if you can't work when asked you might not get asked to work again. Zero hours contracts seem far to heavily weighed in the employers favour.

[@Havensand]

It works better for people who can afford to do so . May not for working class people as much

[@Havensand]

Don't forget seasonal work ie farm working .

[@jetnavigator]

Interesting that he asked Carl his opinion. How many politicians ask other people what they think?

[@gibertusalbans1779]

Trump does

[@Zenn_Chan]

"Lots of people who work on zero hours contracts do so because they want to." Mate, you are not going to enjoy coming up to Newcastle......

[@Lanviku]

I did until labour interference now I am self employed.

[@seanrobinson2270]

If you don't want a zero-hour contract just don't take the job m8

[@anothercynicalbrit6451]

Well he said lots of people, its being exploited right now but the whole point was that you were under no obligation to work, but could if you want. But ofc the big greedy company's decided to use it in replacement of real contracts because they did not have to pay as much tax, insurance etc etc. That was his point.

[@DeadEyeDucky79]

Pkmn_guy The people who are working Zero Hour Contracts and want to be working more hours are a minority within a minority. Not saying I don’t sympathise with them, but they are a tiny amount of people relative to the employed population.

[@kreature6618]

Okay if this guy is running the helm I might start my UKIP subsribtion again. Him and Gerard for the win.

[@heronsdoor4658]

Well I wasn't expecting that! What a terrific interview.

[@kroninn]

I didnt know Sargon knows Victor Matelin from "Beverly Hills Cop".

[@wolffang489]

I recall TL;DR breaking down the pink tax "same product" thing and pointing out that usually the female products are actually using slightly different ingredients and manufacturing methods and at the very least, pink colorant used in plastics are more expensive to get and handle. That was years ago so I may not be remembering exactly correct. Look it up, it's one of his better videos.

[@timbragg9684]

Thoughts as I watch: John Cadbury was a Quaker. It was his son George that founded the Bournville estate - and in the manner you describe. It is now owned by an international firm (I think - Kraft?). I DID hear that their products are now 'halal certified'. In this case that would mean non-alcoholic based cleaning products etc. A shrewd business move I guess but I think there's some link between 'halal products' and funding of terrorism. Sorry I'm being vague here but others might know more. The nineteenth century saw many philanthropic business owners...But there was also the opposite of that as we know only too well. Absolute exploitation of all forms of labour (and the Truck System for instance). Recently I was also discussing the 'cottage industry' which pre-dates the Industrial Revolution. Workers would take in work as it suited them. Now I shall continue watching.

[@osian3854]

I've come back to congratulate Braine

[@cptmachine]

What paint is this guy huffing when it comes to zero hour contracts. Thousands of low skill workers are trapped in zero hour contracts; not knowing what there next pay check will look like and if they should keep looking for work beyond getting a contract of enployment just to cover the bills as they have to wait weeks to claim benefits if there is a shortfall in their earnings.

[@Matmus]

Captain Machine yes I agree at the moment it’s in the employers favour but supply and demand should mean if there’s less people going for the jobs the wages will rise as wages are slowly doing atm.

[@devinanni8117]

The production quality is strangely high.

[@JesusFriedChrist]

No Boomer Audio!

[@rossholt9352]

I mean, it's not 20 minutes of a muted mic but it's okay I guess.

[@LiquidSwan]

Regulations just protect existing businesses at the expense of new and potential businesses

[@JesusFriedChrist]

19 06 20 braine

[@LaurentumEclectic]

What does UKIP do after Brexit? Simple: make independence great again.

[@flintflyer575]

hell yeah dude,individual rights,the blind application of law,to be free like the USA where you are also free to fail,to not have the government breathing down your neck because they are giving you your money back.also having a UK wide 1st and 2nd amendment. the government should fear the people and the 2nd amendment is the only way.

[@LaurentumEclectic]

@@flintflyer575 There's a lot that needs fixing, and although I think the UK needs to rediscover its own identity rather than borrow from the US, looking to the US for example and inspiration could be a useful start.

[@taffythegreat1986]

Lewis Lawrence Brexit isn’t going to happen. T May is hurrying up the unification of our arm forces. Once that happens. We’ve only left in name only but we’re really tied in.

[@LaurentumEclectic]

@@taffythegreat1986 I don't see the future; I see futures. But yeah, the future you describe seems a distinct possibility, so maybe I should have said "if" at some point in my original comment.

[@taffythegreat1986]

Lewis Lawrence that’s ok. Exciting times we’re living in. Ultimately I want to see another Nuremberg trials and all these traitors accountable for their actions

[@metalquintessence6963]

Patriotism is an interesting word, but I'd propose that for those younger ppl/members their patriotism is probably rather motivated by a sense of survival, tho a more appropriate term would probably be self-preservation. :3

[@HFamilyDad]

Yes, I like Mr Braine

[@andrewgardner5354]

He articulates well. He should do well being interrogated by BBC/ Ch4. UKIP will need a solid performer going forward. His seems diametrically opposed to Hookems tbf

[@SH1T3RR0R]

You can't act as a king maker Carl. You have to interview the other candidates.

[@zo1dberg]

This is another candidate.

[@jrrkulp]

Can't is just another word for I don't like it.

[@SH1T3RR0R]

J W Kulp This guys got my vote but the more info I have the better. You are right. I don't like it. A decision should be made with as much info as possible. You could win any election if you showed only one side. I want the guy to win despite how good the other candidates are not because of the lack of exposure.

[@jrrkulp]

@@SH1T3RR0R I don't necessarily disagree, but word choice is important. "You can't do that" often leads to "watch me."

[@gavinearls2935]

well 0 hour contracts are not good for the workers but for the business and it makes sense for the business to have this style of employment but it does not allow the workers more freedom

[@Havensand]

Yep it does need looking at

[@pawelmacpoof5687]

When have people had freedom when working zero hour contract, freedom for work to cancel work at the last minute, but it did get me a job without an interview for a year which was good.

[@heronsdoor4658]

There's two sides to the argument.

[@honestjohn6418]

Very likable and solid chap. He would make a good leader

[@farcough2850]

I thought Sargon interviewed Julian Assange! :-)

[@sebastianrosenheim6196]

Glorie to the Boomer-Millennials Alliance

[@76not84]

Ignore Gen X at your peril. Sargon himself is X, boomer audio notwithstanding.

[@jamesowens7148]

Fug. I thought there was Assange in the thumbnail. RIP Assange.

[@DavidKirwanirl]

Excellent interview thanks

[@FranLuckyflute]

In the 60-70s choice of jobs at several Job Agencies in one road = many people were proud to work. I Loved the life so much better then for us working class = we had pride and purpose in life. Life then was not easy, but we wanted to work for what we wanted with two jobs or more for many families per person, but now many don’t look forward to a future = many are dissolution disappointed - just bumbling along with life and lost pride. Nice to listen to a person then full well understands.

[@trollop_7]

So clearly a good guy.

[@rsgamer-gy5ey]

If you want Batten don't leave follow his lead,he'll either want you to keep backing Batten's legal challenge or back Richard Braine as the only Battenist leadership candidate.

[@sarahblackburn1]

With chatting privately, some of us are in agreement to the following We are too late for Brexit and of course this now depends too on what Gerard does We have an option to dump UKIP and leave it to be a non party at best ....OR ..... Everyone that supports Gerard should stay or rejoin to do the following >>> Vote in numbers in the AGM for what is right The NEC Election come up ..Let's stay and vote in only anyone that supports Gerard and the main issues we need to back and then Gerard is soon leader again and the cancerous rot will go away...We can then also rid UKIP of the spies and lefties within To do the above though would mean we all need to stick together and do this and I am in if you are....We will have something worth fighting for and can make real huge change ...It's called people power and it works and I would stand need be But also to do this we need to get this message out to everyone to please stay for now and/or rejoin ... Let's do this people and let's give Gerard the boost he needs Get some emails off to him too with these suggestions so he will stay ...let's make UKIP ours again and good for this country :) If you stay vote for Richard just to keep NEC failed Tory boy convict Ben Walker out too before he does any damage and Richard is a good guy too and a great friend of Gerard

[@beefjerkythesecond]

Cadbury were Quakers. That's a great tour!

[@Birkarl_]

The latter half of the interview makes me want to scream "Mises!" at you both.

[@Zidana123]

Meanwhile the cameraman had just eaten a huge bowl of cabbage & bean stew for his lunch and is now desperately regretting his life choices.

[@Amesang]

I kip, you kip, we all kip for… fish 'n chips?

[@Cunnysmythe]

Much more impressive here than he was in the hustings, on stage he was like a Jeb Bush figure, nice but retiring and ineffectual

[@philliprowe9473]

I like this Richard guy

[@nickcronin5867]

Carl I really appreciate these interviews and discussions you record with very interesting people and they're always worth listening to. However.... unfortunately a lot of you videos are let down by poor audio, or in this case that bloody annoying creaking chair in the background.

[@Zidana123]

I'd like to think the cameraman had just eaten a huge bowl of cabbage & bean stew and is desperately regretting his life choices.

[@taffythegreat1986]

Maybe I got this wrong if Richard Braine thinks that people likes zero hour contracts because they can chose their hours. I thought people didn’t like it because it leaves them insecure . Try buying a house when you’re in a job with zero hour contract. I don’t think I would vote for him.

[@d4n4nable]

Try buying a house with no job at all. Telling people what contracts they may and may not agree to is peak authoritarianism. Get this commie BS out of here.

[@taffythegreat1986]

Liquid Swan if it’s like with the uk government. I find whatever the government does. It’s never in the interest of the people. There is always another motive behind it. In this case with minimum wage. That’s not for your benefit. What’s that for, they set a low standard but there’s always a loophole where companies under certain circumstances. They don’t have to pay immigrants those wages. They can pay a lot less. If the standard is £7per hr they can pay them £4per hr. In the uk, it’s if immigrants enters under a student’s visa. This is how companies get away with it. The whole idea of this is to actually drive down wages and drive the indigenous into poverty. So you lose their homes and become dependant on the state. What pisses me off, it’s usually the Eastern Europeans that comes over and take our jobs. They pay no taxes as they get it all back. I know this from experience. As we had one working for us and he moaned that the tax office was dragging their feet. If you’re in a profession and the wages are £20 per hour. You leave your job. That job then goes to the job centre and it’s advertised as £10 per hour. If a person who is in that profession looking for a job. Then he sees that notice. He’s not going to take it. Because he knows what the wages should be. He will have expenses such as mortgage, loans etc. But an migrant will. That’s how it works. A lot of migrants comes over in big groups and lives 10 to a house. They send their money home as well. I personally understand this. I probably do the same.

[@taffythegreat1986]

d4n4nable my I bought my first house years ago when I wasn’t working. You can’t do that now as they closed the loophole. What a shame.

[@LiquidSwan]

Peppa pig damn, you guys should just Brexit to Canada or the USA, sounds like absolute hell.

[@taffythegreat1986]

d4n4nable my relative works for a supermarket. Normally you work 40 hrs a week. There’s times where they say to him and others. We only want you to work 3 days this week. Not a good position to be in. You wonder where’s the trades union in all this. They’re as bent as the government

[@quackhouseproductions5572]

Of course the Hispanics are pro brexit. Massive Morrissey fans! Riva la revolution!

[@rs.matr1x]

It's Sargon and Richard Braine, One is a genius, the other's insane. To prove their UKIP views, They'll brexit from the EU, It's Sargon, It's Sargon and Richard Braine Braine Braine Braine Braine

[@drdeadred851]

ohhhhhhhhhhh myyyyyy gooooooood those damn chairs!

[@marewhiskey1807]

He seems like he's got his mind right. I'm an American, but I still vote yes for UKIP leadership.

[@Dragon555]

Hey Sargon, is there any way to view your 2016 debate with Redpanels called Debating Classical Liberalism and Anarchocapitalism with Redpanels? Thanks

[@Tj930]

When you talk about "monolithic structures", contrasting it with the 12 Agile Principles might be worth a look? ('Flatter structures')

[@harryw2903]

Was impressed when Braine didn’t indulge Sargon’s ignorant about the Catholic Church

[@MrGaptech]

I hate it when people say "Going forward" when they mean "In future".

[@maxhstahl]

Sargon interviews Dick Braine! **demonetized**

[@hannannah1uk]

The UKIP NEC has refused to accept leader Richar Braine's recommendation of Batten for deputy and his choice of Chairperson. The NEC must go.

[@shawnski001]

Mr Braine might want to check his facts regarding the pink tax and razors. What he said is provably NOT true. Even if all other aspects of a pink and blue razor are the same, there is a difference in cost purely from the PIGMENT to make it pink. TL;DR did an episode on this. But there are also other differences, AND I call BS on it costing 4x as much.

[@amishverma8415]

Watch the Academic Agent's video on why cost does not factor into price

[@cptmachine]

“It should be easier to fire people” Lord this man is beyond the norm, he’s clearly never had to work up from the bottom rung.

[@AshyView24]

WTB a debate between Richard Braine and James O’Brien

[@thealgebearist7422]

Sargon, do you have a link to the polling showing that UKIP is #2 for 18-24s?

[@fuzzology]

Sorry when did zero hour contracts become a good thing?

[@taffythegreat1986]

It isn’t. The government does nothing good for the people. It’s all about the corporate companies.

[@DeadEyeDucky79]

Unlucky ihavenocash Zero Hour Contracts are fine. About 2% of the employed population are in them and out of them only about 30% said they wanted more hours. Not that I don’t sympathise with them but they are a minority within a minority. My first job was zero hours and it was perfect for me at the time.

[@taffythegreat1986]

DeadEye zero contract hours are no good if you’re trying to get a mortgage. My in law who’s on that doesn’t know from one day to the next, what hours he will be working. When business slacks off a bit. They just lay the people off. Not good at all for the employees.

[@DeadEyeDucky79]

Peppa pig Then don’t be on a zero hour contract when you’re trying to get a mortgage. I just said that most people who are on them are on them because they want to be. MOST people. I was on one back in the day because it was good for me at the time. It wouldn’t be good for me now. Besides there are people going on about banning them. You ban these things and the people working them who may only be making a meagre amount suddenly start making nothing.

[@taffythegreat1986]

DeadEye I know what you’re saying. With my in law for example. When he took on the job. This is why he had a mortgage. He’s been with them for about 12yrs. A couple of Years ago they changed the policy to zero contract hours. Sometimes you might not have a choice of job, depending on where you live. The big companies will be zero contract hours and that’s you knackered for a mortgage or even a loan.

[@zo1dberg]

19 06 20 braine. I see your codes Sargon. I'm on to you.

[@vesavius]

A clear line needs to be drawn for the post bexit era, including maybe a new Labour style rebranding? N.U.K.I.P? New United Kingdom Independence Party?

[@MexieMex]

He seems a nice enough chap, but he's no Gerard Batten though is he.

[@silence6845]

On the difference in price for "the same products" TL;DR did a very comprehensive video on the differences between products designed for men and products designed for women that result in the final price of each product being different. Example being shampoo for example, women's shampoo has more ingredients and in different amounts for the same component than men's, and it is more likely for men's product to be a 3-in-1 body gel, shaving gel and shampoo. And about the super cars, men buy super cars so they can have beautiful women suck their D, and women suck a rich guy's D so they can drive a different super car each day, the women that buy super cars are outliers.

[@watchmyplaylist6673]

noice

[@ramons8908]

The problem with "Labor" both in the UK and Australia is a problem of voters for Labor not being politically engaged. This allows Labor to get away with the corruption that plagues it and the cancer of identity politics as well as the sheer ineptitude of it's members. It's hard to sell new politics to a people who's main interests are football and drinking and vote how their old man voted. This is the problem of the left, how do you tell people that their money is being flushed down the toilet, when they aren't interested in anything political. With conservatives it's easy, they count every dollar. With laborites it's a lot harder, because they just think money is something you spend as soon as you get it, and what you pay in tax was never your's in the first place (oh what fools they are).

[@ashleyashleym2969]

If this is the turn that the UK is going to make, I feel better about it. I'm British and I think the UK has made some very stupid decisions in the past of when I was a child to teenager.

[@captainmaim]

Well done, Carl!

[@bobboo1319]

Richard found Nemo....

[@ianinkster2261]

In London a whites only sign would literally be describing a minority quota.

[@ianjones3568]

I wish him well, good conversation but I don't see how leaving the EU will suddenly get more small businesses. We live in a corporatocracy. That won't change, unless the whole financial system collapses.

[@wianbason2984]

would love to come over to britin since im over qualified here in ZA but im in the same boat as you carl i wanna change my own ship instead of joining another fucked up one

[@Elmarby]

Tomorrow's Guardian: UKIP leadership hopeful proposes cutting people in half.

[@scatton61]

Cadbury founders were Quakers i believe

[@revanslacey]

If UKIP is the part for freedom and personal responsibility why doesn't it have a policy of decriminalising / legalising drugs?

[@hoodoooperator.5197]

His intonation reminds me of BoJo.

[@SWA81]

All depends on the child's age

[@BlueStarr86]

He's wrong about the pink tax bullshit, go ask Shoeonhead: those products are not the same and she has UTTERLY lambasted this bullshit.

[@wroot1]

Batten is a lad

[@ljttlebro3534]

The Easier it is to sack people the less job security lower paid workers will have.

[@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin]

Presupposition that labour theory of value is true, is just like the positive claim that god exists. This needs to be approached in the same way atheists did. The ultimate debunkathon!

[@BoB-th8wm]

LOLOL He believes the Pink Tax and Sargon didn't correct him on it.

[@kpjlflsknflksnflknsa]

When is the last time you debated someone you didn't already agree with?

[@curtiscurt]

0 hours is a load of shit, and making them easier to fire isn’t always the best thing, ask anyone who does agency work

[@kempjmk1]

0 hour contracts are absolute shit no one seeks out 0 hour contract employment it's all that is available

[@revanslacey]

Reckon he'll be popular with the ladies.

[@purple3832]

Economics is not pseudo-science, it is a soft science. I think it's easy for people to think it's psudo because left-wing universities peddle Keynesian economics which is flawed and wrong. Economics does have natural 'laws'. Look up Austrian and Chicago economics to get a grasp of them.