The Brilliance In How Oda Protects Strong Characters | One Piece

[@natureboyOP]

8:25 Something I meant to mention in the script but somehow forgot: this works so well with Shanks because for all we know he could possible one shot an admiral or yonko as crazy as that may sound (and I'm not saying it's the case) the point is we don't actually have a clue where his limit lies. The majority of the fanbase thought it wasn't possible for Shanks to one shot post Wano and Big Mom Kid before chapter 1079 released. And it's not only that he one shotted Kid but he seemingly did it with no effort, so the possibility of doing the same to characters significantly stronger than Kid is a real thing, once again due to how Oda handles Shanks in each situation giving us the bare minimum.

[@GOldenPROdigy115]

You're delusional Crocodile for example had no haki but was declared to be mihawk level

[@Immmboreddd]

Bro, are you insane? Shanks went all out against Kidd, if he didn't, Kidd would have destroyed everything. Beckman tells Shanks "it looks like you've seen hell" in his future sight. Shanks has more feats than Mihawk, Mihawk still ranks above him. You feat obsessed fans are crazy. Nobody is one shotting an admiral.

[@yazid6024]

But he lost to Took.D.Arm tho

[@idkagoodname6287]

Ok chill Bro, Shanks is strong but I don’t see him one shooting Kaido, BM, BB, Luffy. Maybe a glasscanon like Kizaru. And it was not easy for him to destroy Kidd

[@niftylittlename]

People are taking this as a literal powerscaling statement rather than a show of how the narrative gives Shanks strength freedom and uncertainty. I hate you powerscalers, all of you

[@paddy3819]

Oda had the end of one piece planned since the beginning. Many shonen are limited by the fact that they don’t know if they will be canceled, so those that succeed lack direction by the end. Oda, on the other hand, had the beginning and end planned out, just not the middle! It embodies the adventure of one piece in a way. It’s not about the end or beginning, but the adventure along the way

[@noahdlee6646]

Beautifully said brother

[@swanhtatnaing1137]

one piece was suppose to end in 5 years.

[@noahdlee6646]

@@swanhtatnaing1137 and?

[@vadersfist1775]

I heard that the arc after Alabasta or Skypia was already meant to be the final arc initially. Don‘t know if it‘s true though

[@ShatteredGlass916]

Oda may have an idea how it ends, but he keep it easily maliable and easily changed. This is why initially he only planned up till Robin and Alabasta, and 7 Warlords be the final opponents.

[@FuneralProcession]

Blackbeard avoiding Admirals may look like he's too weak. But... Teach is a strategist! If it wasn't suitable to kill an Admiral, he refrains no matter if he's too weak or even strong enough...

[@FuneralProcession]

Example: After killing an Admiral his chances, to get Hachinosu become a Kingdom, may drop 😮

[@woosh1342]

Yea admirals would get clapped by Bb if they went in close like they usually like to do overwhelm/suppress/donut their victims especially abusing their unusually strong df powers. Black Vortex and that shit's over 😂

[@higharchbishopofteatasting6217]

​@@woosh1342Black vortex then a nice little quake bubble directly to the face.

[@leviuzumaki3903]

Think about it like this, why take a fight you don’t have to take? Or a fight you might not win, or a fight you might win but the loses would be to great to recover from and you gain next to nothing from it? He just simply picks his battles and picks his fights, for example he had to fight ace, ace left him no choice on that and it was the only way for him to become a war lord, and he knew whitebeard would try and save him, so he would get his devil fruit. All of that he had to do, there was no other choice and no other option for him. The admirals are probably weaker or similar in strength to him, but the fight to him just wouldn’t be worth it, he’s got greater aspirations than fighting admirals and his goal is the spot imu is holding, being king of the world, and the first step in that is getting a foot in the door and being named king of his island.

[@josephmother2659]

@@leviuzumaki3903he’s definitely a lot smarter than he looks

[@johnphillips4909]

Whitebeard’s crew is another way Oda handled his strength. We got to see Marco, Ace, Jozu, Vista and Blackbeard in action before we ever saw Whitebeard step onto the island, all of whom were his direct subordinates. On top of his declining health, Whitebeard didn’t have Ace or (pre-Yami) Blackbeard with him, leaving him down two of his most powerful fighters, something that mattered at the time because we were seeing his best men in combat with the Admirals and Warlords. This is especially relevant because Whitebeard was incalculably stronger than anyone else on his crew and quite possibly stronger than the whole of them combined. And I mentioned this in my last comment, this all serves the larger narrative purpose of establishing Gol D. Roger. Regardless of who you have as the strongest of the old generation, Roger has been around since page 1 and is the literal gold standard for every other character to be compared to. Whitebeard was the unwilling ruler of the Great Pirate Era that Roger started, and his own death was necessary for the world to begin true change into a different era, mostly unrestricted by the influence of the legendary, dying out old generation. And as we go farther into the story, we realize more and more how impressive it is that Roger was doing this without a Devil Fruit.

[@Commanderparks]

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[@ZackdasBohne]

Plus he was missing Thatch. Of course we don’t know for sure what his capabilities were (other than the he had no df) but as his 4th Commander he probably wasn’t too bad.

[@Chris-rj4bt]

Haven’t finished the video yet but Mihawks introduction was genius in establishing the vague power ceiling of the verse. Then seeing Shanks be casual and have playful banter with Mihawk told me all I needed to know about Shanks level of power

[@huntershurley4331]

With only one arm no less… bro is a fucking monster

[@oliverp3545]

I think the fact that early into the series that Blackbeard's low pain tolerance played a key part in him struggling in fights is why we can accept he's strong, we the readers can accept that he must have something to make up for such a weakness so we don't doubt it when he shows his feats.

[@crocworks]

Crocodile is the character I'd be most interested in this context. He's the first Warlord Luffy beat, and it seemed like it somewhat tarnished the idea of "how strong" a Warlord really was. And then, we have Crocodile still pulling his weight in the Marineford Arc and becoming a part of Cross Guild.

[@natureboyOP]

Yeah, Crocodile is very interesting in that regard. I didn't talk about him here because one of my most recent videos is dedicated to mostly discussing him in that aspect. Here's the video incase you're interested kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHuxhp2Qrs2eoZIsi=RGaK5Upfqtpb-ulB

[@Kidkinsey]

I hear you BUTTTTT we still need to see some type of action from them. Mihawk was Introduced in 1998 jordan was still in the league and we’ve yet to see him serious😭

[@natureboyOP]

Putting it like that with the Jordan example is CRAZY lol

[@Kidkinsey]

@@natureboyOP 😂😂😂I had to make a mihawk defense video a few months back so I had to see when he was introduced and was like DAMN

[@joy4themightydonutchainsaw620]

Also Oda has the scale of destruction down pretty well instead of just escalating every arc

[@natureboyOP]

Absolutely

[@draganarto13]

That's the nice thing. If he kept just blowing things up with Buster Calls every arc it'd get boring. But things like the bird cage were so cool to me.

[@draganarto13]

That's the nice thing. If he kept just blowing things up with Buster Calls every arc it'd get boring. But things like the bird cage were so cool to me.

[@phatpat63]

The core difference here is that in One Piece the main character isn't beating these strongest characters and requiring the power levels to surge up and up exponentially. There's almost always something that the crew's trying to accomplish beyond just defeating the next strongest guy who shows up when they'd all rather just be staying at home.

[@anstorner]

The only exception i believe is Crocodile, specially with how important he became and his influence right now and that he used to be in New World before alabasta (Also meaning he 100% should been able to use Haki, which he didnt use in alabasta). and that his bounty now is 1.something billion, so he is near Yonko commanders in that department (bounty dosent mean power level), so him being beat by alabasta Luffy would be impossible. At least this only happened once for now.

[@FiendishXP]

@@anstorner wasn’t it said that he got too comfortable though? It’s not like he was training, he was running a whole organization and a plot to overthrow the ruler of a country. So I feel it makes sense that he was weaker than what you would expect a prodigy like him to be.

[@ABoredGod]

​@@FiendishXPyep if you stay in a weak sea you become weaker

[@TeddHy007]

Good stuff my dude👍. It is impressive how oda has made characters over 25 years ago aka Shanks, and we still are so curious and excited to see them on screen and not getting ``tired`` of getting them in the manga

[@kevinphilip1957]

Good video, bro. I still remember the one post on the power-scaling sub where you predicted Kidd would get one-shotted, and literally everyone in the comments was disagreeing. Funniest thread ever in retrospect.

[@natureboyOP]

Thanks brother those were good times lol

[@yazid6024]

​@natureboyOP you really predicted that...damn you're goat

[@rovin9721]

Love these types of videos where someone takes a different perspective of powerscaling and story, definitely get a new sub😘

[@natureboyOP]

Thank you 🙏🏾 alot more videos like this in the works

[@Mosaic-xerox]

Admirals going all out is already shown to us or atleast insinuated - akainu vs Kuzan. The ultimate clash of ideology and power

[@Blitzkrieg0321]

I really like the content and thought process. My 1 complaint is the audio volume. My headset usually deafens me with its audio, but i have you turned all the way up and it still sounds like your whispering.

[@natureboyOP]

Thank you I will make sure to fix that on future videos. I've been experiementing with the recording audio recently to try to better the sound quality but it looks like I made it too quiet in the process.

[@Blitzkrieg0321]

for you responsive to the subject you earned yourself a sub

[@natureboyOP]

@@Blitzkrieg0321 Thank you!

[@dwightalexander2648]

New subscriber here. How come you only have below 3k subs when you're uploading these banger of a one piece analysis videos, man?

[@natureboyOP]

Haha thank you! Hopefully we hit 10k sometime soon 🙏🏾

[@sosolawson6587]

Love the piano playing, makes it so relaxing 😌

[@natureboyOP]

Thank you I'm glad you enjoy it!

[@tiltltt]

one piece's power hierarchy is really good, even though the powerscale arc to arc is a bit wanky it's really noticeable how the top tiers keep passively getting stronger just cause they need to be to maintain the hierarchy, like beerus in dbs

[@Rony049]

Great video! Whitebeard is just built different 🐐

[@natureboyOP]

There will never be another Whitebeard!

[@4552yye4]

deserves more views! :)

[@natureboyOP]

Thank you I really appreciate that

[@lennartweinrich7381]

Short defense of Bleache's Byakuya. Bankai makes a soul reaper 5-10 Times stronger. So this Byakuya was at only 10-20% of Power while As Nödt got the bankai buff

[@jmnizgr8]

Excellent storytelling and pacing in this vid!

[@natureboyOP]

I appreciate that, thank you!

[@spacer-lx5pq]

audio is really silent but good video!

[@natureboyOP]

Thank you!

[@LinkcarioX]

This is the first video I find from you and it's great. Keep it up, man!

[@natureboyOP]

Thank you very much!

[@deanthonypatton1791]

Admirals holding back is true. In the holy land green bull flat out said they couldn't fight because the celestial dragons were in the way. In mf its clear if the admirals went all out not only would the destroy everything but would also just murder the weaker marines. Yea they are soldiers that have to follow orders and structures. They don't just let loose and use everything like the pirates can because that comes with consequences for marines.

[@louiswalusimbi8006]

One Piece is probably the only shonen I’ve read that’s been immune to power creep. Like Luffy beat Kaido, and we still have loads of people who are a threat to him

[@djtwister6997]

Buggy crew 5 goresei Admirals Blackbeard Imu Still lots of strong characters left

[@TheeKing7]

The reason we say they held back in the holy land is bcuz Celestials were present. They had to lower the range of their attacks. That's a fact

[@scapeshiftmeta]

These are such good takes. Definitely earned the like and subscribe.

[@natureboyOP]

Thank you very much! Stay tuned for bigger and better videos to come!

[@maggiiopgott8975]

I love the idea that oda is building up characters in a way that technically doesn't alow powescaling logic

[@Hugo_Tate]

surprised you didn't take into account that whitebeard went toe to toe with Roger again and again. and saw him use his haki in the battle with him in that one episode flashback

[@Aceflow442]

Great video man

[@natureboyOP]

Thank you! Working on the next one right now

[@foxos7776]

Ngl would be dope if like Mihawk or Dragon took out green bull, I wouldn’t be opposed to having green bull be killed to give someone else hype. Plus if they find an admiral replacement it could be like a mystery until the final arc

[@alaeleam3791]

Cool video. Really well thought out. Dope

[@natureboyOP]

Thank you!

[@karma8430]

Just a counterpoint to something you said here, Ace definitely had haki. In the novel (which is canon according to oda) ace was well versed in all three colors of haki long before he ever even met white beard, and even outside of that novel he clashed relative with Blackbeard who we know is and was in the highest tiers of haki comparable to shanks (even gave him his scar). And beyond that what do you think the odds that the 2nd commander of the whitebeard pirates really didn’t know about haki? We just didn’t see ace using haki because pre-timeskip haki was invisible

[@spacer-lx5pq]

LMAO THE BRAZILIAN TRANSLATION OF THE KIZARU V LUFFY FIGHT KKKKKKKK

[@zsmith4853]

Good video. How strong do you personally consider Luffy to be right now? Also, when Luffy and Shanks meet up again. Do you think that they will fight?

[@draganarto13]

I like the idea that it'll be a Davey Beck fight. Cause there is no way he is going to simply run the ones to the death with Shanks.

[@tomatelord8126]

I think Luffy is still below Kaido and even Big Mom, so like Admiral or Low Yonkou tier

[@ivanbluecool]

Gotta disagree on the holding back argument in the holy land. We clearly hear how fujitora wanted to drop a meteorite but it was played off as a joke since the admirals have to protect the celestial dragons. We see the difference between green bull in wano and the holy land as while the Revolutionary army is strong they'd be wrecked by the admirals especially seeing what kizaru is doing right now Marine ford it's less on holding back and more on fighting the foe at the time of odas writing since he was still exploring haki at the time. Feat wise the admirals were going crazy so they were showing what they can do especially with akainu Scaring Blackbeard as oda shows he's still a threat to even Blackbeard who just got two fruits and was happy to sink marine ford

[@lucabertani225]

all the arguments were pretty sound, except for the one against fujitora and greenbull in the holy land of Marijoa. We quite literally saw how Greenbull was getting scold, by the people he blindly worships no less, for using his powers too freely, and how Fujitora actively started working against the government's interest and was indirectly helping the revolutionaries

[@abdelazizhamza4978]

you're underrated

[@natureboyOP]

Thank you that means alot 🙏🏾

[@Eniggma39]

Nice video. Word of advice get closer to mic or raise the volume of the video.

[@natureboyOP]

Thanks. Alot of people so far have been saying this. Im working on the next video right now and already upped then volume alot higher

[@YayoHernandez-b1j]

to be honest Nature Boy Dragon should be a part of that video as well because we all know dragon the father of Luffy son of GARP is even much more stronger and powerful than shanks and we all know Shanks is the God of haki and he can manifest a new left arm may entirely out of haki

[@natureboyOP]

I explained in the intro why characters like him and Mihawk wont be in the discussion

[@HellobroHellobro-ni5rl]

Shanks > dragon or Shanks = dragon.

[@kjk607]

Man we don't know shit. 😂

[@iszaachopper]

@@HellobroHellobro-ni5rlmaybe but there’s 0 evidence

[@Travis.556]

We literally have no evidence for that. How about we just wait for confirmation

[@professorannefaire7233]

Bro I just finished this video and thought that this was Mr Morj the entire time

[@yournumberonepal]

Whitebeard impresses me to this day. He was a total champ.

[@natureboyOP]

Such a great character aswell

[@jazzburrell8870]

The greatest power scaling issue in the story is the wanted posters. Crocodile was 80 mil WHAT

[@pandaman1331]

While it's true that the strongest characters are often still the same by the end in One Piece, it also often creates power level inconsistencies. Like Vista stalling Mihawk who apparently is Yonko level.

[@natureboyOP]

Thats always going to happen here and there for the sake of plot unfortunately

[@Thejigholeman]

i gotta wonder about blackbeard. how smart is he? i mean, he's clearly smarter than the average bear, but is he some kind of tactical genius or something? he specifically wanted the yami yami fruit, the one fruit that would allow him to use more than 1 devil fruit power, and if he studied it that much, he must've learned about the lack of logia protection from physical attacks. so if he knew about that, but still thought it was 100% the fruit he had to have, he must've been thinking really far ahead. what's his endgame? like, what does he really want?

[@natureboyOP]

Blackbeard is character we need answers to the most!

[@penggu9152]

Meanwhile Dragon is looking east for the 500th panels

[@woosh1342]

@ natureboyOP Made this more than 14 months ago lol. Still holds up better than anything else I've seen.Face the facts. Spread the truth. I did not waver in the face of all the bs the admiral wankers gave and now here we are. Said this over a year ago and I'll say it again - every major fight that has happened in the story can be explained thru this such as Garp stalling Aokiji, Yamato being a contentious match up back when GB pulled up to Wano, Shanks scaring off GB, Rayleigh stalling Kizaru, Garp launching Marco with 1 punch, etc. Yonko/PK/Gods : 90 and above Admirals : 85 - 89 Yc1+ : 80 - 85 Yc1 : 72 - 79 Kaido - 94 Luffy - 93 Shanks - 92 BM - 90.5 BB - 89.5 Akainu - 89 Garp - 87.5 Kizaru - 87 Aokiji - 87 Rayleigh - 86 Fuji - 85.5 GB - 85 Yamato - 84.5 Sabo - 83.8 Law - 83.5 Kidd - 82 Zoro - 81 (85 with asura for a short burst) King - 78 Sanji - 77 Marco - 76 Kat - 75 Killer - 73 "Guys they're monsters stronger than yonkos so the god knights must be yonko lvl as well ...Kaido got powercrept...Akainu will be a final villain for Luffy, so he's stronger than Kaido, Shanks came after Kaido so shanks must be stronger than Kaido"... sit tf down ppl. Oda wrote around powercreep perfectly and had Luffy nerfed appropriately till needed as well. Like having Luffy use g5 twice in a row. 2 is the maximum no. of times we have seen Luffy use g5 in a row even back on Wano. The second time he uses g5 he has to put everything he has into that last attack and even risk punching through the island till Momo moves it. After which, he literally falls to the ground from the sky and Yamato has to catch him...JUST LIKE how Franky has to help him out in 1094. Unlike WCI, where Luffy had to use g4 and then run around for 10 mins to recover haki till he can use g4 again, now he can use g5 (again which he only did the 1st time on Egghead for info dump purposes from VP and to show Lucci his new form and play around. Luffy just had 0 clue that someone as strong as Kizaru and SJG were on Egghead island or he wouldn't have done that) and, once he runs out of g5 stamina, he can now fight in base/g2 with acoa,acoc and acoo or go back into g5 once more for a final offensive (which again would have worked had SJG not jumped him after keeping his presence there a secret for that long). Don't even get me started on the lasers or Luffy just trying to bfr Kizaru and not actually attack him till the end. Like I said, there are ways to write around powercreep, you're just blind and straight up vacous if you're saying Kaido and other yonkos got powercrept.EVERY single damn time a yonko appears on screen they're nerfed in one way or another. Maybe now, you finally have an inkling as to why Yonko are always narratively held back through various debuffs - WB (you already know what happened at MF) , Kaido (come on really, the island, multiple enemies, multiple g5 plot armor breakthroughs and several different haki blooms and even then he had to try to tank Bajrang in his much weaker dragon form and tries to 'melt' Luffy's hand before it punches through the island, which otherwise posed no risk to him, he could have easily dodged that if he dodged lightning point blank), BM (suddenly not knowing what acoc or acoa even was in her fight with the supernova duo) and ofc what happened with Luffy (who's also struggling from g5 stamina issues as of rn so it's even more easier to hold him back). 3:45 Luffy wasn't using acoc against Lucci..even the Doffy clash and Kat clash looked like that. YOU srsly think Luffy can equally clash with an acoc weilding g5 Luffy. Luffy goes toe to toe with normal hybrid Kaido in base with acoc yo. Chill, Oda knows how to write around powercreep although that Van Augur anime bs against Cracker was definitely surprising, maybe the biscuit soldiers were weakened by the extreme cold idfk lol. Now about the Shanks acoo feat against Kid, did y'all forget that Luffy did a very similar feat back in Udon during his training. Go back and count the seconds on it and see if he was or not. That very same Luffy had to improve then go up on the roof only to use acoo and still get hit by a base Kaido.. Luffy then had to improve his acoo and all haki types by so much from then on. We haven't seen any killer of observation stuff yet but Luffy ain't that far off from Shanks even in acoo. Chill

[@mbsissef8815]

Great video! But the volume was too low could higher up a bit.

[@natureboyOP]

Thanks for letting me know I'll raise it up more for future videos

[@iEnvyJay]

i agree with the marineford one but with the mariejoa one they had to hold back cuz the celestial dragons were present and even watching the fight a full scale attack would deffo hurt em

[@YayoHernandez-b1j]

Nature Boy do you believe Blackbeard will become even much more stronger and powerful than kaido and big mom when he gets his third Devil fruit and possibly conquerors haki the advanced forms

[@davidharner2481]

It is my current theory that Blackbeard does not have conq. It would be the perfect way for luffy to beat him because he has the one thing that teach does not

[@ryankohler5066]

4:30 oda says haki is based on how strong the person is not the number of people, so if there were a billion of the same fishmen standing there they all would’ve fallen to shanks

[@Gamesux421]

I loved whitebeard shittalking shanks saying people lost respect for him after hearing he lost an arm in the weakest of the 4 seas

[@dinosaurpolitician3663]

Blackbeard is one of my favorite characters in anime, because he’s really like a mirror world Luffy. He struggles in fights, he has a small core crew of powerful people who respect him but still shit talk him sometimes, he has a dream he wants to fulfil and an inherited will, just like luffy. But unlike Luffy, Teach is a bad person! It’s very fun to see.

[@natureboyOP]

The Sun God ability and the darkness ability They are so alike but complete opposites. As that first scene of them with the pie and beer in Jaya perfectly captures

[@logandodge9522]

Pretty good video. I wish you weren't so monotone tho 😂. And the sbs statement is an iffy argument for shanks and ray lol and if your distracted your not at 100% that's common sense but I understand where you were coming from with it

[@natureboyOP]

Lol thanks for the feedback I appreciate it!

[@zenfy5814]

Tbh i feel like Oda does a great job but he really messed when it came to Big Mom. In Wano, he presented Big Mom as extremely clumsy and had her lose to Kid & Law. Obviously sooner or later she wouldve had to be defeated(OP coming to an end) but Imo Oda should've had a more proper way of her going out.

[@natureboyOP]

Agreed

[@bromous1446]

Liked the video but have a few critiques from ur certified armchair debater so if that’s not ur thing, continue To call one style lazier than the others is just nonsense. Oda’s writing style has written himself into many corners, even if it’s less than others on average. He’s a great writer, but all of these styles have issues that weren’t covered. Making shanks’ limits unknown is a very good way to describe his strength, and make him a power that is obviously close to the top. Very good style of showing little to make a statement, and differentiating him from the rest of the characters in a very good way. I agree with all ur points on that front, but it’s not immune to its own problems. Making a character that just 1 shots all enemies, scares them off with a stare, and knocks out twice as many as the main character with his presence removes stakes when revolving around this character. Using ur own analogies, there’s nothing that stops him from just taking over the world because his limits are unknown and he can just 1 shot anyone because of implications, but it’s clear that isn’t the case because of written boundaries set. It just makes it seem like “oh, everything is over because *insert strongest character* is here.” Same is arguable with BB. Having a power well that can hold anything until it’s explained is a similar issue that a character like Sukuna has. He can ass pull things because his powers aren’t explained and it’ll make sense because the writer said so. I don’t think it’ll happen for Oda, and BB will likely have his powers explained before it gets to that point, but to just leave it like that still makes it a negative to the style of protection of said strong character. What’s to stop him from automatically knowing how to awaken the fruits he eats either. Or to mix devil fruit abilities making a DF cancelling shockwave. It’s a no limits fallacy that can just apply to most things that breaks the power system in the other way. (To jjk readers, no Sukuna’s ability against Gojo wasn’t an ass pull, that’s not my argument. His open/fuga thing is because we don’t know the extent of its ability because it isn’t explained. If Gege wanted to say he can just pull out a purple, or black hole, he could. It’d be an ass pull, but because it was never explained, the writer can still do it.) The admirals constantly holding back is lazy I’ll admit, but it’s still just as good as the others. They’re 1 of the 3 super powers of the world, and if one goes out of balance, the whole system falls apart. Of the admirals can’t contest the yonko with the assistance of all the warlords, the power system would be broken. However, they still can’t have them destroy every enemy with no difficulty because then the marineford war wouldn’t have the same impact, and the revolutionary army would’ve more than likely been dealt with long before currently. Instead, Oda makes it clear that between personalities and specific circumstances, the admirals are required to hold back in order to keep to their duties. Call it distractions, or a mindset nerf, it’s still resulting in them holding back their power, even if in destruction alone. WB’s is just as lazy though. His strength comes from his title of strongest, and being nerfed into the ground. Arguably worse. I don’t think WB is a bad character, one of my favorites, but his power was just ridiculous. If you are a man, he’s stronger than you (same with Mihawk, but his is more specified). The only reason he was weak enough to “give a chance” to the navy was because he was old, sick, had to hold back to protect his crew, couldn’t use any advanced haki, couldn’t use conq, and was stabbed before the fight. “If none of that happened, he would’ve been wiping the floor with everyone present.” That’s just unrealistic. The nerfs were drastic to him, but no one can say what affected him to what extent. You could argue that Sickbeard is 50% primebeard or 1% primebeard the same way u could argue that shanks caps out at 100,001 fishmen, or infinite fishmen using this video’s logic. My point in saying this is not to tear down an opinion or video, but to simply say that one writing style isn’t inherently better than another. The way that Oda world builds is one of the best in writing, and all of these ways are great, however they all have their own problems. A big one being a no limits fallacy. Removing all sense of tension with Shanks since he can just scare of one of the super powers of the world from miles away. Removing all sense of scale by making mystery the power of a character, cuz if u don’t know how it happens, anything could be the reason so anything can be the result. Making all sense of tension leave when dealing with the navy because they’re constantly holding back, so fighting them will never result in their win, and if they do win it’ll be close. And removing all sense of believability by just saying a person was strong, then stripping away a ton of their power to give the combined forces of 2 whole super powers of the world, and the entire navy a chance at victory.

[@natureboyOP]

Thanks for the comment. This was a good read and I'm glad you liked the video. Theres things you said which I agree with and others which I don't. But it was a really good read to see a different perspective on this topic.

[@isorstho7378]

I think the admirals never went all out on the holy land. The reason is that we may have never seen admirals going all out, but we did see the aftereffects of it - Punk Hazard. That island showed us just how destructive the admirals devil fruits can be. So if they went all out, there would be no holy land left.

[@erik-st9gy]

ace probably had some observation haki as shown in ep 101 6:50-6:59 when he threw a pebble at a bullet

[@its_hokori]

We literally saw green bulll holding back, The celestial dragon gave him a warning not to hurt them

[@porky1118]

11:13 There is a reason for us to believe there is a limit: If there wasn't a limit, he would already have eaten more than two.

[@natureboyOP]

Like I said in the vide there are already many popular theories out there that Blackbeard either will eat a third devil fruit or that he already has eaten a third and the yami yami was actually the 2nd and gura gura the 3rd.

[@Anticap17]

Can u do a vid about kaido putting Roger strength or haki on pedestal even above Whitebeard and Rocks.

[@nataneldemissew3426]

whitebeard is stated to be using haki. There were many instances of characters using haki pre-timeskip but oda hadn't decided on how to explicitly show armament haki

[@natureboyOP]

Haki was in Marineford but like I said in the video it was not yet a fully fleshed out concept

[@MoriohAnime]

Oda power system literally only works for the plot Luffy forgetting to use conquerors coating against the seraphim so Oda could stall Big mom not using conquerors coating against Kidd and law Law Devil fruit not being able separate Kaido and big mom because of Haki Zoro not using conquerors coating against Lucci Haki blooms literally happening only for the strawhats Luffy getting ryou, conquerors coating and gear 5 all in one arc. The list goes on, essentially the power system only works for the plot.

[@alexharris991]

7:00 I just wanna say that I can’t believe people scale like that. Saying Ace didn’t have haki is just highly disingenuous. Like dam he was far above smoker

[@robplaysstuff6029]

2:46 shanks has done so much less fighting than MiHawk, especially early in the series. Mihawk effortlessly dispatched zoro, a more meaningful feat than seeing shanks squash higuma and his nameless mountain bandits, and on top of that, Mihawk actively participated in the battle at marineford, giving the audience an even better taste of what he’s capable of, on top of establishing how he holds back earlier with his fight with Zoro.

[@robplaysstuff6029]

No way we’re saying using the SBS is good story telling.

[@JohnDoe-wt2zz]

my guy raise your videos' audio, im at 4x the volume i regularly watch things with and i can still barely hear you. If I forget to take it back down before the next vid imma get my ears blasted to oblivion

[@miguelmunoz5499]

Blackbeard was ready to fight Shanks… Blackbeards crew on the other hand was not ready to fight Shanks crew. “It’s too early to fight you Guys “

[@natureboyOP]

Blackbeard was absolutely not ready to fight Shanks

[@Dom-dw5fu]

meanwhile kizaru is getting bullied

[@raidenpainn1561]

Err actually, it was quite literally shown that the admirals had to hold back in marijoa due to fujitora not using his full range of abilities like in dressrossa, he wanted to nuke the place but he was reminded by green bull, besides, this was all according to plan for the revolutionary army, it's not like they would've won in a fair normal fight

[@ThisAintAStupidName]

I don't understand how this keeps slipping the One Piece community by: Blackbeards Yami Yami no Mi allows him to absorb and consume all things. Is it so hard to believe that this is what allows him to absorb and consume DF powers? He didn't bide his time for 40 years and aim specifically for that Devil Fruit for a mediocre Logia power, he knows something about that fruit we don't.

[@natureboyOP]

Very much possible

[@vastthebest124]

The admirals are not as strong as the emperors but if u dont count them the admirals are on top of the food chain.

[@rovin9721]

I just realised punk hazard looks like a pokeball

[@bruhmoment3980]

The only reason these guys look strong is because they're too afraid to fight people on their level. Shanks and BB waiting for Kaido to die before making moves against weaker crews, Dragon still looking east for 1000 chapters, Mihawk killing Level 1 pirates in east blue, Kuzan needed a jumping an 80 year old man... WB the only one shown to stand on business even with stage 37 cancer

[@fredlodexpo2011]

The most basic and boring blackbeard story; the reason why Luffy and zoro said “them” when they met blackbeard and why Blackbeard can eat multiple devil fruits is because the YAMI TAMI NO MI allow him to hold people and things in it and he can use the things in it. His special lineage will be that he’s someone’s son

[@seDrakonkill]

This seems likely to me.

[@alexnice2221]

Is bad writing imo. Oda will build up a clash with cligfhangers, build up hype for a char and then ruin them in the next chapter. E.g 1) Greenwood debut in Wano 2) Captain Kid rematch against Shanks pirates 3) Sanji and Luffy vs Kizaru in one panel, then in the next panel Luffy solos both Kizaru and Saturn 4) Saturn being punched by even Franky and being clowned by everyone. This is not how you protect strong chars especially in a final arcs. Most fights and conclusions make no sense.

[@prabinpaudel5572]

I expected separate section for kuzan.

[@Cyber_Cheese]

big mum got her devil fruit by eating another devil fruit user, i suspect blackbeards multiple fruit ability works in a similar way

[@natureboyOP]

That only worked for Big Mom because she didnt have a devil fruit already. Its basically the same as eating 2 drvil fruits youd still die

[@Wruthlessness]

you are too quiet. i didn't like having to blast my speakers to hear you and then getting deafened by ads.

[@natureboyOP]

Thanks for letting me know. Audio will be raided for the next video

[@KaelFarm]

Reason why i love one piece 🎉

[@planetmac8586]

Im sorry but your point about the revs bs the admirals in the holy land was bad. Did we really not read the same chapter? The celestial dragons were literally surrounding greenbull you really think he would go all out with the possibilities of him hurting them? Not to mention fuji was literally distracting him with the meteor. Like come on.

[@Anticap17]

Kaido thunder bangua barely makes a crater 😂so why do they need destructive attacks .So does that mean their haki is trash now ?😂😂😂😂😂

[@planetmac8586]

@@Anticap17 you sound dumb af. The celestial dragon literally were so fucking close to greenbull and was like protect protect me. I swear people just didn’t read the chapter.

[@woosh1342]

@@Anticap17 ngl that was good 👌 you got him (with the truth)

[@michaelduncan1516]

I hope Blackbeard doesnt get a 4th or a 5th But itd be interesting to see a 3rd Round him off with his theme of 3s

[@natureboyOP]

Agreed

[@redwings0142]

Blackbeard’s literally been going around stealing devil fruit powers and giving them to his crew. It’s basically established that there’s no limit to his ability.

[@michaelduncan1516]

@@redwings0142 yeah that's fine that's his vision for an all devil fruit crew.... I'm just saying he himself shouldn't get more than 3 In my opinion

[@redwings0142]

@@michaelduncan1516 It’s hard to say what Oda will do but I feel like he’s setting up Blackbeard to get some crazy powers. Even if he still only uses his first two fruits he’s absolutely busted.

[@Roman-fj9my]

I genuinly don't understand why people say Akainu lost to WB, he was sent down a hole he tunneled out of as quickly as possible, he wasn't even down for a chapter. The anime has completely skewed peoples' perception of the fight.

[@quezmiz736]

volume is very low btw

[@natureboyOP]

Thanks for letting me know! I'll work on improving that for the next video

[@jon_durham]

Anyone notice lucky roo went from like 5 ft to 10 ft at marineford lol

[@natureboyOP]

Something was in that chicken lol

[@jon_durham]

Ah luffy just been eating too much red meat. You’re onto something big sir

[@murksmitty]

I do know that blackbeard is gonna murder shanks before the story ends

[@timurjack8773]

If Shanks was much weaker when Teach scarred him, why Shanks was so certain Teach is going to beat Ace and warns Whitebeard? Ace vs Smoker thing is hilarious, did you not see Ace as a rookie was equal to Warlord Jinbe and Yamato, before that Ace beat also another Warlord as Saturn said so they made Kuma Warlord later to replace it? Ace had no reason to take Smoker seriously, he told him to get lost and Smoker didn't do anything.

[@timurjack8773]

Also prime Ace would give difficulty to Admirals as well, remember Nerfed Ace after beaten by Teach, still blocking Aokiji's attack from behind? Ace only lose to Akainu easily because his DF power was directly weaker vs Akainu's just like Enel's vs Luffy.

[@bearkerchiefton7428]

Test your audio. You already have a good balance between the music & your voice over. It just needs to be all around louder

[@natureboyOP]

Thanks for the advice. Ive upped the audio by alot on this next video Im currently working on, so when it comes out (hopefully this weekend) please feel free to let me know how it is as well as if the audio and music balance is still good

[@lorddarkrai5753]

Casually me spreading ''A man's cope wil never die'' at an One Piece video that will turn to powerscaling warfare.

[@timurjack8773]

9:30 ''WB casually almost kills him with 2 hits'' Not true, WB KOed Akainu with 2 hits, but Pre-TS Teach wasn't KOed with 2 hits, next page he was using his pistol to shoot WB, how can you almost lose but shoot a pistol right after? Teach wasn't even close to getting KOed while Akainu was KOed, that proves you wrong. ''BB directly states he is not ready for Shanks'' If Shanks was so superior to Teach at the time, why he didn't 1 shot him like you said he shot 3 billion Kid? If it was that easy why Shanks lets BB go and grow stronger? Pre-TS Teach at the moment was fighting Fleet Admiral Sengoku and Garp, if Teach was so easy to beat why they didn't beat him like you believe WB did with 2 hits? Because they couldn't. Because WB's 2 hits didn't beat Teach as well but you think it did. ''Runs away mere sight of Akainu'' Again baseless, Augur tells Teach that Marines are not going to give the ship, Teach asks why, Augur tells him because they send Akainu with it. It makes no sense to fight Marines + Admiral for a ship. Whitebeard retreated from Marines without Admiral before remember when Oden asked him they should fight, WB explains fighting Marines makes no sense because if they beat them they will keep sending more after. Why when even WB retreats from Marines without Admirals but Pre-TS Teach should stay there in useless island and fight Marines + Admiral for a ship? Marine Hunter Mihawk even left his home island when Marines without Admiral attacked him, that doesn't mean Mihawk would lose. Also you forgot Pre-TS Teach had to think about his crew safety there, Sanjuan was in trouble since they had no ship to carry him, and fighting Marines in that situation definitely would mean losing Sanjuan. You think every time Marines attack Pirates, Pirates should fight otherwise it means Marines stronger? Thats not how Pirates operates. Pirates have no business with Marines while Marines only job is to fight Pirates thats why even when Marines knows they are going to lose when they attack WB they still do it because its their only job it doesn't prove anything related to power levels.

[@user-ww9ww1pp2u]

He didnt casually ko him at all akainu wasn't event unconscious he just fell in crack and still able grab a rock to not fall in ocean. Those 2 punches wb hit akainu was mad bloodlusted and hit akainu from back by catching akainu offgaurd. While bb faught wb who was half dead with his entire crew he was already on dead bead the last hit was about kill bb but wb stop moving. Also the bb literally run away with his crew when akainu show up to fight him just day after marineford war.

[@timurjack8773]

@user-ww9ww1pp2u , Teach fought same WB that KOed Akainu, it was literally happened next chapter WB didn't fight anyone after he KOed Akainu and Sengoku said WB is still strong after face injury since he KOed Akainu in 2 hits. Akainu falling that means Akainu was KOed or paralyzed after 2 hits. Falling into rock stops people in one piece since when? S-Hawk send Teach under mountain after cutting mountain, Teach showed up seconds later inside the rocks. If Akainu wasn't KOed, he wouldn't fall like that he would attack him right after. Also I literally explained why Teach retreating from Marines (Akainu wasn't alone at all) doesn't prove anything read my full comment above.

[@timurjack8773]

@user-ww9ww1pp2u , Zoro run away from fodder Apoo, WB run away from fodder Marines, Mihawk run away from fodder Marines. Its about strategy. Why Teach should allow Marines with Akainu sneak attacking him when they don't even have a ship to fight on the sea and Sanjuan was vulnerable to Marines in that moment.

[@user-ww9ww1pp2u]

@@timurjack8773 dude wb already used whatever he had left on akainu and still couldnt even make him unconscious even with cheap hit from the back. Read the manga akainu literally blow half of his head his brain was visible even when wb attacked from behind. It was last wound akainu gave wb that literally moving and seeing impossible for him and bb attacked him with his crew his crew included shilew who was as strong as magallem who one shorted entire bb crew. Bb literally had panic attack and sweat dropping the moment aokij said I will take you all on at the same time. Even after frozing half of bb crew bb still didn't wanted to fight aokiji with his entire crew.

[@user-ww9ww1pp2u]

@@timurjack8773 also when running away from akainu bb said "I am not ready for this" it's literally the same line he said for fighting shanks crew.

[@PunyakirtiMishra07]

I don't know how powerful is BB against non DF users

[@natureboyOP]

We will have to see in due time

[@mayurmadiwalar8978]

i have this at full volume i still find it low anyone else?

[@natureboyOP]

Are you using headphones earphones or just speaker?

[@xnovablud2497]

Shouldve protected Trafalagar. THE GOAT, THE SURGEON OF DEATH, THE REASON LUFFIES STILL ALVE, spin back luffy.

[@jeremyO9F911O2]

I'm not sure he's looking at conquer haki on formal Fish man Island the way I do. It think it's more of a field and probability thing. But this argument treats it more like a feedback and drain thing. Now 150k people can in n theory take up more area and more powerful burst covers more area. But I don't think that's what happened on fishman Island. Which would imply the 50k closest to Luffy got knocked out. Which doesn't at all jive with Luffy's haki burst at Maine Ford. Where it was a mostly random filtering. I think more likely every person has a certain resistance, and therefore a probability that haki will knock them out. A stronger haki simply has a higher probability to knock a greater number out. Therefore increasing 100k to 150k assuming a similar pool of candidates should mean that 150k/150k would still be knocked out by Shanks.

[@natureboyOP]

I dont know where you got the idea that I was talking about the distance but thats not the case at all. Yes, each person has a threshold and thats what determines if someones conquerors haki is effective on them or not, we know this because of Jozu and Marco's statement about Shanks. All Im saying is those 50k fishmen whos thresholds were above Luffys haki at the time, would still fall short to Rayleigh and Shanks haki.. it has nothing to do with distance at all. They had a strong enough will to withstand Luffys but Shanks and Rayleighs haki would have been too much for them. So when I say "if there were 150k fishmen or 1million" I dont mean Shanks and Rayleigh would have the haki to "cover that distance" but rather the number of people who can actually withdstand their haki is so few that even tripling the number of fishmen there wouldnt make a difference. Whereas with Luffy only KOing half of them, we understand there is a clear limit to how many fishmen can and cant withstand his haki. Hope that helps.

[@jeremyO9F911O2]

@@natureboyOP only you just repeated my argument. You're the one who said 120k of 150k in your video. That's the quote of your's I'm basing my comment on

[@natureboyOP]

@@jeremyO9F911O2 Read my comment again

[@Calendar9]

Whitebeard the greatest of all time💪

[@indexator86]

Your audio is way to low

[@natureboyOP]

Thanks for letting me know. I'll fix this issue for the next video

[@nathandrian]

Bonne vidéo

[@GO_EZ]

protects or projects?

[@natureboyOP]

Protects

[@dionisiosmarinos4285]

All this work for "fans" to call everyone a fraud

[@natureboyOP]

Lol yup

[@enanebres6481]

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