The British aristocrat that joined the Nazis - BBC REEL

[@Michael_HS]

It's funny how many personal insults they make.... And they think they are objective? lol

[@amydamjanovic9183]

Edward Vlll belongs in this category as well.

[@prettypuff1]

You aren’t kidding

[@Luke_-_]

I like how the video isn’t about Edward VIII you still have to include him…if you do your research properly then you’d understand why he did what he done, instead you’d rather just be ignorant to the truth

[@prettypuff1]

@@Luke_-_ there is no justification for nazi anything. Anyone who thought hitler “ was on to something “ with his ethnic cleansing He also gets mentioned because Britain does not have clean hands when it comes to handling hitler No debate; conversationa

[@andyf10]

@@Luke_-_ We understand perfectly well what he did what he did. He was a nazi sympathiser, anti-semite and wanted Britain bombed. We don't have to sugar coat it and pretend otherwise.

[@iangascoigne8231]

@@pastyannoconnell5706 ?

[@awkwardsean5141]

Oh God, I was sure the rich kid was gonna get away with it.

[@iowabyslipknot]

@dhakishang9640And there you go projecting your classism all over the comments section. Tsk tsk tsk.

[@richardelson3261]

Initially I thought this might be about a certain member of the Royal Family but I suppose that is so well documented it needs no retelling.

[@ianmayes8072]

I still think that it is easy to forget, and difficult to put ourselves into the mindset, of people (Europeans rather than Americans perhaps) between the two world wars. In that period post-war euphoria (The Roaring Twenties) contrasted with personal and familial loss, social and physical displacement on a massive scale. Visit any churchyard in Britain to see memorials covered with lists of names of those who never came back from "The War to End All Wars". Those who did saw the old order of things, apparently collapse into chaos as national borders were redrawn, populations displaced and old certainties questioned endlessly. They no doubt shared with Wilfred Owen the certainty that the old maxim "Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori" was, when it came to the reality of the thing, just an empty succession of syllables which had no relation whatsoever to modern warfare. (An earlier example of the trauma which the Vietnam War revealed to Americans brought up on the idea that John (Marion) Wayne could take a bullet yet continue to swagger around!) Probably in those circumstances a 'strong man' offering cloud cuckoo land solutions is attractive whatever your place in the social order. Hope is the last small thing left in Pandora's emptied box. PS Amery was, it seems, just another amoral, arrogant and opportunist member of a very privileged class who was devoid of moral judgement,

[@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic7810]

@Guttural Tuttle you've just spammed this vids with edgy comments haven't you. You're so cool. How can I be as cool as you?

[@paulfrank9047]

Lol which one? I remember there being a photo of the deceased Queen Elizabeth making a Nazi salute. Then there was also King Edward/Duke of Windsor, whom I believe abdicated to marry an American.

[@ianmayes8072]

@@paulfrank9047 Think you are way off on the first one.(She was probably reaching up to pat one of her horses). The Queen Mother hated Wallis SImpson as she believed (rightly I suspect) that by persuading her brother-in-law to abdicate and thrusting her husband into the role of monarch she hastened his death. Edward does seem to have been totally unsuited to the role of King. But like making a third rate New York property developer President of the US!

[@y2kelly66]

America had its Nazi sympathizers too. Some companies were sanctioned for helping Nazis. One of those companies was run by George Bush Sr. I believe. We have a lot of German heritage, back then many were within a generation or two from immigration to America, so they spoke the language. Britain had many Germans in your own Royal family.

[@MarkHarrison733]

We fought the wrong enemy.

[@Mike20216]

There were loads of people like him with the same extreme views at the time and still are today.

[@josephsolowyk7697]

Yet you have a Ukrainian flag a place where Nazis are killing civilliains.

[@neddyladdy]

And there forever will be.

[@TesterAnimal1]

Plenty in the aristocracy felt that way. And plenty still do. And they’ve now discovered that by culture warring, they can get the plebs to vote for them.

[@robertduluth8994]

It's been that way since the British empire. Y'all are not so different to Adolf.

[@TheHelge57]

But the British Empire did'nt take genocide against white people. I think that's very important, to understand that shock-effect after the war just ended.

[@danieldravot341]

I still believe that, after Edward, Oswald Mosley was the most prominent British fascist.

[@stoggafllik]

Britain lives, and marches on!

[@ThomasPrior-wv6zn]

@@stoggafllik LIFT UP YOUR VOICES WITH ME AND SAY BRITAIN LIVES AND MARCHES ON THE GREAT SIR OSWALD MOSLEY HAIL SIR OSWALD

[@ThomasPrior-wv6zn]

EDWARD WAS A TRAITOR TO BRITAIN SIR OSWALD WASNT

[@watermelon_cat6056]

@@ThomasPrior-wv6zn cringe

[@NazriB]

Lies again? Nazri Germany Beautiful America

[@celticman1909]

There is a "Foyle's War" episode that borrows from this story. Historical fiction with creative license. A good show.

[@Dabhach1]

Although in that episode... SPOILER ALERT...SPOILER ALERT... the Amery character was not guilty.

[@TheSaltydog07]

"The Hide." The reason I love "Foyle's War." Most episodes have a WWII history lesson.

[@suzylovesmambo]

Are you thinking of "The Hide"? Or that one where Laurence Fox plays a Nazi-sympathizer?

[@celticman1909]

@@suzylovesmambo I think "The Hide" It was the one about the son that witnessed his abusive father murder his mother as a child and never resolved the matter. His public trial in Britian for being in the Nazi "Free Corps" was a kind of revenge against the prominent father.

[@williamcobbett4943]

At least we aren't speaking German

[@Abdullah_0083]

That is just a historical myth, its the same kind of absurd myth as "Hitler killed everyone without blonde hair and blue eyes". Just look at Vichy France which was a Nazi puppet state, German was not the official language and the citizens spoke French. If Britain capitulated to the Nazi state English would still remain as the official and commonly spoken language

[@AaronTheGreat________]

We wouldn’t be alive look up generalplan ost for Russia and they wanted to exterminate 90% of the British isles they didn’t want to make people speak German they wanted slaves

[@mathildejensen3285]

Viscountess Nancy Astor, (1876-1946) american born but adopted into the british aristocraticy by marriage to Waldor Astor, was Englands first woman to take seat as a mp. and reportedly antisemitic and a supporter of fascism and nazism. As a member of the Cliveden set, british aristocrats that subscribed to fascism, she invited Joachim von Ribbentrop ( Hitlers foreign minister) in 1936, to get an angelo/german collaboration going. She saw nazism and Hitler as an antidote against bolsjevism. A viewpoint she shared with then american ambassodor in London Joseph Kennedy, John F Kennedys father.

[@gavinslater2047]

Truth is Hitler reached out to England on so many occasions fir peace..the last which was rudolf Hess flight...but the powerful interests that controlled Churchill (focus group) wanted war because Germany developed an economic system that was way ahead of its time and threatened the the debt driven system that the western world finds itself under tiday ...as Churchill said himself “ Germany’s unforgivable crime before ww2 was to extricate itself from the international money exchange thereby denying international finance the chance to profit”...Germany knew the threat of the Jewish bolsheviks and did its best to shelter Germany and the rest of Europe from it..unfortunately after America entered ww2 that had no hope of achieving that ..

[@martinwarner1178]

So, that is why John F. got the bullet then? Peace be unto you.

[@chrisrogers3457]

I THINK NAZIS IS NOT COMPLETE DISAPPEARED STILL ERE IN LOVELY LAW PART OF PRESENT GOVERNMENT

[@andycandal5934]

Guess Nancy Astor was a very enlightened woman. She was right after all. Just take a look at England now...

[@meredithisme3752]

Yes unfortunately America pollutes

[@antispindr8613]

But how many of his lordships class had then, or have now, such attitudes?

[@luluah1198]

The queen’s husband did

[@evanhadkins5532]

Britain traditionally disliked France, rather than Germany. There were fascist movements in European countries and their colonies (like Australia where I'm from); so they were some in all those countries advocating an alliance with Germany.

[@ianmayes8072]

Don't forget which class Winston Spencer Churchill came from...

[@thefirm4606]

More than anyone really wants to admit

[@SunofYork]

@@evanhadkins5532 Are you a Fascist /Hitlerist?

[@lairddougal3833]

Rhys-Mogg, John Amery. Same man? No one has seen them together.

[@tendrosstoodross2976]

Wonder if the BBC will do a video about the traitors within their own ranks?

[@davidhoward4715]

Let me guess, traitors are people who don't support your god-king Putin and his crusade to save Europe from homosexual Jewish Nazis. You pathetic puppets never change or learn.

[@tendrosstoodross2976]

@@davidhoward4715 Traitors are wokeist filth.

[@kingfivexan7864]

They are too busy at attack Former Soviet republic for attacking country that let banderite genociding Russian.

[@billlee6855]

It would be great , but no

[@jordandavid8653]

The lives we live help determine our capacities for anything.

[@liam.4454]

How many British soldiers died in world war 2 and if we won the war, what did we actually gain from winning?

[@siredith8846]

4:26 “You wouldn’t want him running a bath for you” 😂

[@SuperGreatSphinx]

THE MOST HONOURABLE ORDER OF THE BATH

[@reinadegrillos]

Al menos fue coherente y aceptó su muerte como lógica consecuencia de su traición.

[@CaesarsLegion1]

Based

[@stephenholmes1036]

Albert Pierrepont was infamous? He was a state executioner and very efficient and unlike his American counterparts none of executions were botched and nobody was strangled to death.

[@staffanlindstrom576]

No normal person would choose to be a hangman.

[@TesterAnimal1]

The Nazis deserved that though.

[@ianmayes8072]

@A1Kira Did what better?

[@ianmayes8072]

@A1Kira You are losing me here somewhere, Are you saying that the American did a better job of botching executions? As I understand it, the Americans after the Nuremburg Trials insisted on having their own executioner share in the business of dispatching the Nazis convicted of war crimes but the man they selected had no experience of hanging as a method of execution having only used the electric chair. Pierrepoint was the third in his family to be an executioner (after his father and his Uncle Tom) and says, or at least claims, that he saw the process as a craft which he had mastered, and his function as providing a method by which the despatch of the condemned prisoner in accordance with the sentence handed down by the courts of law should be as efficient and humane as was possible and carried out in a manner which caused the least possible distress to all involved, including the prisoner. The whole process, from entering the condemned cell to the prisoner being dead in the execution cell would occur in the time that it took for the prison clock to strike eight.

[@ianmayes8072]

@A1Kira Interesting moral question here which goes to heart of the whole Nuremburg trials event. Extending the courtesy of a legal trial to mass murderers was seen as a way to maintain a superior moral standpoint. This extends also to the method of execution following a guilty verdict. To condemn them to a slow death on piano wire would be to sink to their level. Pierrepoint says that he extended to these criminals the same treatment as he extended to others. At the end of his career, which seems to have ended as the result of a squabble with the Home Office (his employers) over expenses, he would not give an exact number of executions he had carried out as he said that was a private matter. He merely said it was 'some hundreds'. He also said that at the end of his time he had come to the belief that in his opinion carrying out the death penalty had not prevented a single murder but had merely represented society taking revenge upon those it condemned to death.

[@peterjones3557]

Albert Pierrepoint was not 'infamous', he was a very proficient and effective civil servant.

[@GrumpyAustralian]

Typical BBC putting a negative slant on Uncle Albert!

[@ClarinoI]

And a fine publican, by all accounts.

[@ianmayes8072]

@@ClarinoI Popular with coach parties so I understand.

[@christopheraliaga-kelly6254]

Efficient and Celebrated would be more appropriate. Check out the excellent film "Pierrepoint", starring the fine actor Tim Spall.

[@TheMangoDeluxe]

A sad end for a man whose efforts at high treason were completely pathetic.

[@vanmar5074]

Fck queen and Churchill

[@iowabyslipknot]

@dhakishang9640There you go projecting your racism and insecurity all over the comment section. Tsk tsk tsk.

[@sakkra93]

"Well, Mr Amery, that's very interesting and very nice, but you are in Germany, when your country is at war with Germany - and most of the countries of Europe - then aren't you a traitor?" Well, my good friends: only history will be able to judge whether I am a traitor or not. - John Amery, 1944 He wanted to stop a great brother war, wanted Europeans to get up and fight for our civilisation and fight Bolshevism, and because he was concerned about Defence Regulation 18B being a descent into tyranny. Is that so treasonous?

[@Mshi-]

He resisted against Bolshevism

[@Paulstrickland01]

And the queens uncle supported them too. Even invited the mustache to dinner at the Palace and he had her sig heiling on the front lawn.

[@luluah1198]

Her husband has a nazi connection . His own sister married a nazi so makes you wonder what his beliefs were

[@neddyladdy]

I think many in the royal family had sympathy with the Nazis. King Edward, for instance, was sent to the Bahamas in a attempt to make him irrelevant/avoid embarrassment..

[@olgierdogden4742]

At the time there were a lot of fascists in the Royal Family but fortunately most of them apart from related ones like (sir) Oswald Mosley and his black shirts were kept out of the sphere of influence.

[@MohamedShou]

@@olgierdogden4742 lmao people always forget where do you think the Nazis learned all their crazy theories and racism from? They didn’t come from a vacuum 😂. From the their *of course* German scientists and philosophers, British philosophers and scientists, French philosophers and scientists and American philosophers and scientists 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@TesterAnimal1]

@@MohamedShou whereas you learned your fascism where?

[@drakeybryter5997]

The time-travelling love-child of Keith Floyd and Michael Portillo has let himself go.

[@SavagesInMyTown]

based amery

[@Casket1488]

I guess if being a patriot is extreme? Look at the state you’re in now U.K.

[@heinzdelf]

A man who knew his time was up 👆!!

[@daniels.2720]

Thought for a minute it might be Mosley...

[@ianmayes8072]

Just missed him sir. Should be in later.

[@ThomasPrior-wv6zn]

i can tell you have been brainwashed sir OSWALD was not a traitor he loved ENGLAND a true ENGLISHMAN GREATEST P M WE NEVER HAD HAIL SIR OSWALD MOSLEY AND THE BUF

[@ianmayes8072]

@@ThomasPrior-wv6zn Bullshit.

[@winkieblink7625]

A terribly sad story. But he met his end truthfully.

[@nikopoulos5241]

He wanted what was best for europe and western civilization. Namely to europeans

[@sakkra93]

He warned us about an incoming dark and barbarous era. And how right he was...

[@salimattal2864]

​@@sakkra93cry

[@dylandavos9645]

@@salimattal2864found the immigrant

[@salimattal2864]

@@dylandavos9645 cry about it

[@deeznutz8320]

​@@salimattal2864Yeah were doing that now right? Parasite

[@sispugaloma9625]

Amery would be proud of today's British leadership...

[@martamilutinovic6172]

You are so savvy...I am impressed by your comment.

[@dufus7396]

Like Russia now calling Ukraune terrorists

[@ianmayes8072]

Today's terrorist is tomorrow's freedom fighter. But only if they are on the winning side. Things are rarely as black and white as they seem, and the creation myths of nation states are drummed into populations. Mythic national heroes are invented and a false narrative preached as something which belongs to 'us', to evoke a pretence of unity. Putin is trying to do this with Russia, ignoring the fact that Ukraine was for far longer under the sway of the Lithuanian and nordic states than it was of the USSR. The US does it in spades, and England has promoted the most unlikely people to be national heroes with a unifying brief (Robin Hood, Richard the Lionfart(he used to eat a lot of meat and very few vegetables), Hereward the Wake - known in his own time as Hereward the Exile, etc etc

[@Parasmunt]

I wish he could live to see how wonderful Europe is now so that he could see how he was wrong.

[@y_ffordd]

Yes but there is the BNP, Brexit and others that would have served his ideology, he would have lived to continue in his racist ways.

[@Parasmunt]

Well at least they don't speak German in London.

[@SpitfireMLG]

@@Parasmunt i know your comment is satire but I love how you can’t tell hahaha

[@Man_fay_the_Bru]

You’re joking right😏

[@letsdiscussitoversometea8479]

@@y_ffordd Gosh, you really know a lot about him. Don't you.

[@gailcrowe727]

We’ve always had nutters all through history, most of them now.😢

[@felipesoares5900]

Well, revolting against a father figure comes in many ways I suppose.

[@bobtudbury8505]

let's not forget mosley, married to churchills cousin. he spent the war in a womans prison hollowell, with his wife! with other inmates acting as servants ffs! edit ,sorry holloway

[@seangannon6005]

I mean to be fair he hadn't committed any crimes, they were just (rightly) suspicious he'd collaborate with the nazis. So while it may have been for the greater good to keep him locked up during the war, it wouldn't exactly be fair to mistreat the man. Once you start throwing people in gulags for their political leanings, you're no better than the nazis

[@alastairgreen6783]

Mosley, Churchill's, Holloway. Proper nouns.

[@bobtudbury8505]

@@alastairgreen6783 wow you must be so educated.However it is not a sign of intellegence

[@TheSaltydog07]

@@alastairgreen6783 People hate it when you correct writing. It's like a personal affront, which it isn't. I hate split infinitives, which are rampant.

[@bobtudbury8505]

@Dhaki Shang tell me again when you sober up

[@sakkra93]

"...And we shall be plunged into a dark and barbarous era because we will not have shown ourselves capable of defending that civilisation - because we will not have been able to add our own little link to the long chain of progress than our ancestors have handed on to us...If, Ladies and Gentlemen, we have not the courage, all of us, to get up and fight for civilisation, or at least to _help_ civilisation as much as we each individually can, not only will our civilisation disappear, not only will we all be dead - but we, ourselves, our terrorists, our bankers, our bourgeois and our intelligentsia will only leave to history a vague memory of decadent and purblind imbeciles quarrelling amongst themselves - unintelligible quarrels and stupidities...And we shall leave to history a record so pusillanimous, so vain, and so incomprehensible that the barbarians that will have smashed us will hold in history a name a thousand times greater, a thousand times more prestigious than ours." - John Amery, 1944 The man was a visionary!

[@Snowshowslow]

This was interesting, but the narrator was so much louder than the interviewee that I found myself constantly wanting to adjust the volume.

[@andrewhoward7200]

I don't know why Mr.Weale is being so coy 'No link between Bolshevism and Jewry.' The Imperial War Museum claims 8 from 13 original Bolsheviks were Jewish, the Jewish encyclopaedia YIVO proudly acknowledges the crucial role played by them and state that they were still disproportionately overepresented until the 1960's. That the 1917 revolution was substantially funded by the Jewish bankers Kuhn Loeb under Jacob Schiff can hardly be unknown to this historian. These facts are crucial in understanding Amery's fateful decision to collaborate with the Nazis. Correctly identifying the ghastly nature of Bolschewism he chose the Jews as a focus for his own self-loathing .

[@connorglaze538]

Schiff only funded Kerensky's provisional government and immediately stopped approving loans to Russia when the Bolsheviks ousted it

[@14rnr]

Ahh, the days when England was worth fighting for.....

[@farzanamughal5933]

Most things are worth fighting for if the alternative is mass genocide

[@letsdiscussitoversometea8479]

We fought the wrong enemy.

[@sakkra93]

@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479 Just as men like John Amery were trying to warn us!

[@anthonycaruso8443]

John went to the Nazis.The Cambrige 5 went to the Soviets

[@gustavmeyrink_2.0]

So this is not about Edward VIII as I assumed.

[@rougebanker4554]

Ironic that we blame him, considering that fascism was so popular back then. To now demonise him is an indication of our hypocrisy or our collective amnesia.

[@TheSaltydog07]

"Blame him" for what, pray tell?

[@jmlaw8888]

Believe it or not these werent people basking in their own evilness. They were simply arrogant people who thought they knew what was best. Sound familiar? Not at all unlike todays leftwing virtue mob who think they have the perfect human morality now and foever. In 50-100 years people will not look back on their "evil" kindly either.

[@PantheraKitty]

He said that history will be the judge if he is the traitor or not to his own country. _British people becoming a minority in their own country this century_ ...Yeah.

[@sideshow4417]

Anyone ever listened to what he had to say, or do they only listen to the words of the worlds biggest tricksters and serpents, those who must not be named.

[@JK-br1mu]

1:36 instead of always acting like it's some mystery why people connect Jews to Communism, just say something like, "while it's true that Jewish people have always been strongly represented among the highest ranks of the Communist movement, fascists like Amery neglected to mention the numerous Communist leaders from different ethnic backgrounds"...........anyone with a brain and basic knowledge of the topic knows that Jewish people were vastly over-represented within Communism, but also knows that non-Jews like Stalin and others were at least as numerous.

[@temptemp4174]

Jews don't believe in communism they believe in capitalism. For Hitler they believed in capitalism so much that he wanted to kill them

[@rogerengland7692]

Marx was a Jew. His family were even married to the Rothschild family. Other very prominent Jews. Lenin was rumoured to be Jewish. Trotsky was a full Jew. 75% of the cheka secret police were Jewish. 80% of the original Soviet government were Jewish. So yeah, pretty much a Jewish movement, hardly a secret yet we're expected to not notice it. It like how we're repeatedly told that Stalin purged the Jews but if we dare mention that Jews were there before the purge, well it's anti-Semitic. We're meant to believe the Jews only exist when they're being persecuted.

[@nobbynoris]

Anti-Jewish paranoia. Get over it. Stalin 'loved' Jews so much he actively encouraged them to leave the USSR altogether.

[@rogerengland7692]

@@nobbynoris no paranoia, just fact. How could Stalin have purged the Jews if the Jews weren't there in the first place?

[@PantheraKitty]

@@nobbynoris Offended, rabbi?

[@ClarinoI]

I rather assumed this would be about Lord Halifax. I hadn't heard of John Amery before.

[@gemellodipriapo]

PG Wodehouse made similar broadcasts and indeed refused to leave France and return to the UK during the German invasion. Wodehouse ended up in Berlin for the duration of the war. and made several broadcasts. He wasn't executed. I suppose it's who you know ... or how popular your books are ... I mean imagine the shock of executing a national treasure like PG Wodehouse? Typical English hypocrisy ...

[@99somerville]

Wodehouse’s broadcasts were not really political and he never professed support for Nazis/Fascists. Big difference.

[@gemellodipriapo]

@@99somerville Not really. Germany was an enemy state and Wodehouse chose to make broadcasts for them. He was an employee of Nazi Germany at a time of war. Moreover when Germany invaded France Wodehouse refused to leave stating his dog Mungo was ill and so ended up in Berlin.. You must either be ill informed or disingenuous ...

[@ianmayes8072]

Two glaring inaccuracies in the hanging sequence. Pierrepoint did not use the 'hangman's knot' shown nor did they use a black cap to cover the prisoner's face; it was in fact white.

[@ianmayes8072]

@Arbane's Sword of Agility Not sure what point you are making. I do not know the name Leuchter but suspect him to be American. I do know that Albert Pierrepoint, the third Number One Executioner of that name, was disgusted and horrified by the performance of the American executioner after the Nuremburg Trials who used the 'cowboy' knotted noose which resulted in strangulation of the condemned men and women, whereas Pierrepoint's use of the calculated drop and British 'hooked' noose meant that the neck of the condemned person was instantly broken, whereas the American executioner was having to replace a blood stained noose at frequent intervals following strangulation. I understand that the American executioner was inexperienced with any method but the chair. Who was this Leuchter?

[@MohamedShou]

@Pangur Ban lol I’ve heard plenty of stories throughout history of people before being executed being “brave”. And tbh when Emery got hanged he got hanged in the most “humane way” possible, so I wouldn’t call that being “brave”. If this was a 1000 years ago where treason had a much more horrific punishment let’s see how brave he is then 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@theseeker4642]

@@MohamedShou Are you obsessed with trying to prove people wrong ! Dosen't matter whether it was a beheading by axe in Mediavel times or a more humane hanging in the 20th Century, the fear the condemned person felt would be exactly the same ! Just a suggestion, but instead of throwing theories about by different Western people, tell us about the people & their attitudes in the country of your ancestor's, so that we can see any similarities or differences !

[@alastairgreen6783]

@Pangur Ban Amery.

[@alastairgreen6783]

@@MohamedShou Amery

[@NightDocs]

That looks nothing like Edward

[@andyb.1026]

Not just the King, but many members of the Aristocracy,, thousands of them

[@dianasitek3595]

I recommend historian A L Rowse's book, 'Appeasement: A Study In Political Decline, 1933-39'. Leo Amery fought Baldwin and Chamberlain tooth and nail against their appeasement policy, which directly facilitated Hitler's aggression.

[@MarkHarrison733]

Amery had been bribed like Churchill.

[@chrismac2234]

We had a few that flirted with the Nazis. Jock Lewis the legendary founding member of the SAS. Or how about Eric Winkle Brown a diplomat and our best pilot, also a world record holder. And countless others. And then there are the thousands that helped Stalin's russia

[@minui8758]

I feel sorry for him really. Clearly a deeply troubled attention seeker who ended life so depressed he didn’t bother fighting to prevent his death. Deeply upsetting story

[@PantheraKitty]

@Dhaki Shang Yep, all leftists in a nutshell. They have serious issues as a whole

[@iowabyslipknot]

@dhakishang9640Based on your comment history you should be placed on a watch list quite frankly.

[@gerardferry3958]

where do i sign

[@yusufibrahim7916]

Wow like they say history is written by Victors. How about the queen, her husband, uncles? How about Benjamin Netanyahu's dad working with Mussolini when he was attacking Ethiopia? No no no sorry it's anti- Semitic to say that even though he aint a drop of ancient Hebrew blood but hey ya'll doing a good job distorting the truth!!

[@Airships]

John Amery was not an aristocrat. You might think the BBC would know the definition of a "British aristocrat," but no.

[@jameswright2974]

98 % of Uk didn’t give 1 iota what was happening to the Jews

[@GriefTourist]

He was half Jewish wasn't he?

[@albertito77]

Is this man the one they called "Lord Haw Haw"?

[@ghengiscant538]

No Alberto , Lord haw haw was William joyce another guy who thought he had picked the winning side . It ended badly for him also .

[@clarkewi]

The fear of bolshevism was great in the west at that time.

[@deeznutz8320]

And it was very very Jewish

[@ChickenNugNugz2]

Remember when we had politicians who fought against the far right, instead of pandering to them. They'd be members of the government opposing appeasement because it's too harsh, rather than not harsh enough

[@HoIIandC]

How can you even type the words "instead of pandering to them" when looking at the state of our country? We are absolutely flooded with migrants and asylum seekers, hate speech can lead to imprisonment, and most major companies have diversity hire quotas. In what world does our government pander to the far right? Myself and many others could only dream of such a thing.

[@ThumpRat]

We have record numbers of legal and illegal immigrants and our prime minister and home secretary are from the Indian subcontinent. What on earth are you on about?

[@jonathangems]

The victors write the history. How many know that the Soviet Union under Stalin had 1 million paratroopers about to invade Europe in 1940? How many know that Germany had no interest in Poland? The incursion into Poland was to restore Prussia to Germany. East Prussia - a German province with a population of 1.5 million Germans - had been ceded to Poland after WWI. In 1938, the Polish government agreed to return Prussia to Germany in exchange for 10 million gold marks and a Polish corridor into the free port of Danzig on the Baltic. Under pressure from the British government, and a cast-iron pledge of protection, the Polish government reneged on this agreement. Outraged, the German people demanded their government take back Prussia by force. This was accomplished swiftly, despite Polish forces being superior in numbers and equipment. Poland wasn't conquered by Germany, it was invaded and annexed by the Soviet Union. And not only did the British government betray the Poles by not protecting them, it gave financial and technical support to Stalin. It aided the Soviet Union in conquering Poland! Later, Germany invaded Poland and liberated it from the Soviets. The Poles were deeply grateful. The Germans freed not only the Poles but also the Ukrainians, and were everywhere met by cheering crowds. But you won't find this is in the school history books.

[@ld7207]

Well German occupation didn't really go well for them after that

[@pipster1891]

Albert Pierrepoint wasn't "infamous", but he was famous.

[@obadiahspong2300]

Absolutely. A highly respected and kindly man who performed his duties impeccably.

[@raymondpulham1600]

Spot on that got me replayed it a couple of times to be sure what I heard

[@theseeker4642]

Albert Pierrepoint lost a lot of popularity, when he hanged Ruth Ellis, the last woman to be hanged in England !

[@cadicamo8720]

I don't know how to translate that damn word into Spanish. Now you make me think sometimes you English speakers disagree about its meaning

[@deniseelsworth7816]

No infamous is the correct word.

[@Sam-lj9vj]

Sounds like a good man

[@patmays7344]

He looks just like any other Tory!!

[@Johnconno]

'He was the rule rather than the exception.' Churchill.

[@OrSomeBricks]

Bring back Mock The Week.

[@col4574]

They all wanted too.Many still do

[@homewithemma42]

It should read WHO not THAT !

[@hrhcrab]

Could have done Lord Reith, but you do you.

[@jeffsframe9927]

As if there was only 1 LOL

[@guff9567]

Pretty normal son of an MP then

[@Lassisvulgaris]

No noose, is good noose....

[@nathaliedufour3891]

anger issues can lead to folly

[@papapa9106]

That's not a picture of Edward The Eighth!

[@sallee64]

Do you mean, "who" rather than "that"?

[@leviprice8306]

Why they talking about his childhood that doesn’t mean he’s guilty just because he was a naughty kid lol

[@kdorch75]

certainly in the 1930s, a British aristocrat siding with the Nazis would hardly have been unusual

[@the_grand_tourer]

The title should be 'One of the many British fascist aristocrats who unsurprisingly joined the Nazis', the title hints it's a one off, but it's endemic in their world.

[@TheSaltydog07]

Also called appeasors.

[@the_grand_tourer]

@@TheSaltydog07 I think you're too kind, on it's own that'd suggest political expediency. I believe it's simply a shared ideology of superiority to those who are seen lesser.

[@volvanochaser1099]

Not true. His case was exceptional. If you could draw up a list of all of them, it would be very short.

[@Clipgatherer]

Clearly, the Nazis didn’t need another Lord Haw-Haw, although they had a real aristocrat this time.

[@rnp497]

to be fair not sure how he was going to even try to argue 'not guilty' given the radio broadcasts and all

[@ThomasPrior-wv6zn]

hail sir OSWALD MOSLEY GREATEST P M WE NEVER HAD

[@pawshands9706]

Looks like that demonic Netanyahu too. Oh the irony.

[@deeznutz8320]

Dont ever equate this hero to that demon

[@Thumbs81]

Nigel Farage saw this man as an inspiration

[@Cromwelldunbar]

Strange that the commentary makes no reference to the fact that both Hitler and Stalin were for very nearly two years - all bar two months - enjoying perfectly harmonious.commercial and trade relation exchanges, even swapping people who had sought refuge in each other’s countries back the regimes they had fled from- and that had Hitler played his cards with a lot more intelligence he might have got the better of both Britain and America…As for John Amery, we can only have respectful pity, empathy and deep understanding for Leo Amery and his wife and other son…R.I.P. … Why does the narrator use the term ‘infamous’ as regards the public executioner Pierrepoint? Right, I gather that the opposite term ‘famous’ would not be appropriate or even ´relevant’…but ´infamous’…He was just doing his job…Iwonderif the job vacancy then ought to have been described as « infamous » ie « Candidates invited to become ´infamous’ …

[@anahill2366]

Infamous is not the opposite of famous, it means: well known for some bad quality or deed.

[@Cromwelldunbar]

@@anahill2366 Fair enough…I take due note…and with thanks for your correction…

[@anahill2366]

@@Cromwelldunbar of course! have a great day!

[@valmarsiglia]

The British aristocrat _who_ joined the Nazis. Come on, you're the bloody Beeb!

[@Airships]

Amery was also not an aristocrat. You might think the BBC would know the definition of a "British aristocrat," but no.

[@BanjoLuke1]

The... Speech-cadence-of.... The-Main-Narrator.... Makes-this-Quite.... Hard-to-listen.... To. Sorry-But-That..... Is so.

[@ralphwortley1206]

Strange but I had no difficulty. But English people don't tend to shout.

[@codyshi4743]

He reminds me of traitor like Benedict Arnold and Wang Jingwei.

[@rhodiusscrolls3080]

Nevertheless he was not voted the most Hated Englishman...

[@rhodiusscrolls3080]

That title was given to the man who broadcast in English from Hitlers Germany William Joyce and he was hanged for his pains.

[@TheRetromat]

Come on BBC - “The British aristocrat *who* …”

[@andyf10]

British aristocrat that supported the Nazis? Are we talking Edward VIII here?

[@albertothomasx]

The BBC couldn’t spell truth because if it tried.

[@maureencora1]

Reminds Me of a Episode of Hogan's Heroes. (smile)

[@fuckbankers]

The British aristocracy have always had a love of dictators.

[@9grand]

Same as for the brits . YES , while fighting the Nazi the Brits were oppressing the people they have colonized in Africa, Australia , India etc

[@TesterAnimal1]

@@9grand every people has oppressed another people at some point before they weren’t persuaded or forced out of it. Going back millennia on every inhabited continent.

[@thefirm4606]

@@TesterAnimal1 and this obviously makes it ok. Diminishing the heinous treatment towards colonies within living memory. But it’s ok, because the Romans did it a thousand years ago. Brava!

[@9grand]

@@TesterAnimal1 thank you to admit democracies do the same thing , but still give lessons to the rest of the world.

[@mudra5114]

@@9grand Oppressing the people? WTF?

[@clivebaxter6354]

Probably a mate of Edward V11 and his weird wife

[@abuhamza1970]

I think you mean Edward VIII? Edward VII was Queen Victoria’s son.

[@toolatehello3345]

He'd of been right at home in the modern day Conservatives.

[@metalboostable]

Sunak is the embodiment of Hitler.

[@OrangeTabbyCat]

Not of been, it’s have been…

[@antispindr8613]

@@OrangeTabbyCat A minor error that should not deflect from a major point

[@version736ha2]

@@antispindr8613 bullshit

[@antispindr8613]

@@version736ha2 Just like his Lordship, are not the Tories full of **it?

[@jacquietarr7280]

What about Oswald Mosley ? Diana Mosley nee Mitford ? Unity Mitford ?

[@marichristian1072]

Mosley was another such traitor. And although he was jailed during the war he continued his black shirt activities when he got out. He belonged to an aristocratic family and I believe that saved him from the gallows

[@iowabyslipknot]

@dhakishang9640 You have the self awareness of a small lizard quite frankly.

[@Skyfoogle]

@Dhaki Shang advocating for humans to coexist with eachother = racist advocating for the death of minorities = heroic please walk into a lake with cinderblock shoes

[@lucschoesetters4307]

And what about freedom of opinion?

[@katherinestevens6528]

The Astors are jewish