The Brooklyn Dome would've changed everything

[@cmdrflake]

Robert Moses did not want the Brooklyn dome. He insisted on a stadium in Queens, which was built as Shea Stadium.

[@jimmynickelz]

Ol Bobby Moses. Smh.

[@davidlafleche1142]

Walter O'Malley hated that idea and said, "They're not the QUEENS Dodgers!" Let's face it: Brooklyn barely had enough room for a basketball arena. There was no way they could have found room for a huge baseball stadium.

[@ec1628]

A dome in LA is ridiculous. Being in the stadium on a summer night is spectacular. A dome would absolutely destroy one of the best things about baseball in Southern California.

[@bobbowie9350]

In LA, it maybe gets unbearably hot 2 weeks the summer. Night time isnt hot at all. Any type of a dome is ridiculous for baseball. Its a summer sport anyway!

[@howie9751]

Can't take a game in a domed stadium seriously.

[@ousamaabdu794]

Dodger Stadium will definitely make it to 100 years. When we come back to this video in 2063, let's celebrate!

[@willmack5909]

If the world, I and youtube are all still around by then, I will be 97 years young. Would be a hoot and a hollar to still see this message by then.

[@subman721]

Hey Depressed Ginger; I lived in L.A. for 38 years! IT’S NOT GETTING HOTTER!! My first Christmas there is was 90 degrees in 1985! Hasn’t been anywhere near that since! It is more humid now! But not really hotter! So pushing the climate change, bull S!!

[@vagrante13]

The project in Brooklyn was scrapped when they were denied building in Brooklyn but were allowed to build in Queens. The original plan for the Dodgers was for them to play their home games in Wrigley Field from Monday through Friday but have double headers, Saturday and Sunday games to be played at the Coliseum. That was nixed because it wasn’t practical. Plus the neighborhoods around the Coliseum and Wrigley Field were starting to decline at the time.

[@manuelgrothe608]

You know why I vote Brooklyn, New York for the New York Mets with the Brooklyn Dome, New York Islanders, New York Jets and New York City FC might rejoin Queens, New York

[@mhbbej1]

@@manuelgrothe608 The Islanders have a new home in Elmont. The played a couple of years at the Barclay Center. I went to a few games there. The Barclay Center is a great venue but it's horrible for hockey.

[@manuelgrothe608]

UBS Arena in Perfect in Queens, New York where the US Open Center and Citi Field stands

[@manuelgrothe608]

Both Mets and Islanders are both White Orange and Blue

[@vagrante13]

Dodger Stadium was built to last.

[@richiemartinez103]

As some one who grew up in Brooklyn and born 2 years after the Dodgers vacated Brooklyn I can tell you Walter O’Malley fooled the public with his Brooklyn Dome, in my opinion he had his eyes set on a new market as early as 1953, the Brooklyn Dome and its location would not soothe O’Malleys parking issues in a Downtown Brooklyn area which was quickly deteriorating, this isn’t the Downtown Brooklyn the Nets walked into, along with the fact that his plan to acquire the land was outright illegal in attempting to get the city to condemn the meat markets on the land to build his dome, and he would’ve most likely had to condemn apartments similar to what the Nets had to do, that would’ve incurred the wrath of the community in that are, another little known fact is that O’Malley proposed sweeping renovations to the LIRR Atlantic Terminal which would’ve been underneath the Dome and O’Malley was a shareholder in the LIRR, he knew Moses would never go for funding a renovation for a Commuter railroad terminal, as Moses was very anti railroad. I will always contend that the Dodgers had a few other sites in Brooklyn, especially Southern Brooklyn, I.E Canarsie, or the current area of the Kings Plaza shopping Mall l, or north of Floyd Bennett Field and he would’ve had land for all the parking he desired, he would’ve made Moses happy as it would’ve been right near Moses Belt Parkway and it would’ve allowed the Dodger Fans who moved to Long Island an east drive along the Belt Parkway, because the LIRR during the 50’s was a shit show, so most of the Long Island fans would’ve drove and driving into Downtown Brooklyn has always been a nightmare. You would’ve had ample land for charter bus and city bus parking also, this all leads me to believe O’Malley was either stupid or knew the Dodger Dome at Atlantic was never happening, a lot of revisionist history has been put out since to make Moses who usually is the villain, a villain in the Dodger situation.

[@micycles1200]

I can't see any future in which Dodger Stadium gets demolished - barring some type of disaster like an earthquake. It's an icon. It's legendary. Believe me, the fans wouldn't let it happen. Southern California may be the home of progress, but let me tell you we are steeped in tradition. The fans wouldn't allow Dodger Stadium to die. And we probably wouldn't allow a roof over our home. We'd fight to keep it alive. I always do wonder what would have happened if Robert Moses had approved the Brooklyn site. The Dodgers stay in Brookyn. The Giants move to Minnesota like they planned. Maybe Los Angeles gets the As or the Braves or even some expansion team. Maybe the Hollywood Stars become an MLB team and Wrigley is still standing. How does all of this change my life? I mean, the Dodgers have been a big part of my childhood and my life, same as my dad. What about the city? What does LA look like without the Dodgers? It's an interesting thought but could have been a very real possibility. All Robert Moses had to do was say yes and the world - not just for baseball - looks a lot different

[@johnunderwood1196]

Love your stadium videos. I’d like to see you do one on the Truman Sports Complex in Kansas City. The two stadium complex (baseball and football) was way ahead of it’s time, and since the complex is now 50+ years old, it has outlived a whole lot of stadiums, both football and baseball. Keep the great videos coming!

[@vagrante13]

They will NOT build a dome in LA for the Dodgers.

[@rockyracoon3233]

No need to, not with Dodger stadium looking so fine. 😊

[@jr_subz3ro]

Agreed, our weather is fine so no need for a dome or retractable roof, even when it comes to the day in the future DS needs to be replaced.

[@ec1628]

He’s said this before. Obviously he does not live in Southern California nor does he know much about us. Being outside at night in the summer in LA, Anaheim, or San Diego is fantastic. A dome would absolutely ruin the the experience.

[@haysbrickell9579]

I've been to Dodgers Stadium once and thought it was great. It really is a classic ballpark.

[@principalmcvicker6530]

A video on the Kingdome would be fun to see. I wanna hear your hot takes on it lol

[@ronpeacock9939]

A dome in LA… Why? First, it’s not really that hot there.. not like Texas or AZ… and Yankee stadium has probably had more rainouts in 1 season than Dodger stadium has seen in it’s life… A dome in LA is a waste of money. and I also think many cities/states are not so blank-check to teams as they used to be.. (see Oakland).. Hell, even So-Fi was built with private funds because the city wouldn’t step up. I don’t see the Dodgers ponying up the funds to build their own stadium. (Which I believe MLB and NFL teams should be forced to do…NHL and NBA arenas have so many uses beyond the sports… MLB and NFL… not much beyond what they were designed for.)

[@jeffreythomson2979]

The old story has it a Brooklyn fan was asked what would he do if in a room with Hitler, Stalin and Walter O'Malley and had a gun with two bullets who would he shoot? O'Malley twice.

[@jcngokai-76]

That survey should have included Robert Moses

[@waynetietz380]

The city of LA offered the land in LA to the Dodgers for $1.00. An offer O'Malley couldn't walk away from. Bill Veeck always said the move to LA by O'Malley was simply a land grab. Former MLB Commisioner Bowie Kuhn said he would not have allowed the move to LA by the Dodgers if he would have been the Commisioner in 1957. He didn't think it was in the best interests of MLB to have the Dodgers leave Brooklyn. The Brooklyn Dodgers were the 2nd most profitable team in MLB during that era. The move was wrong.

[@DveDveSold]

Great find. Never heard of this one.

[@a.williams1945]

The idea of LA getting a domed stadium is completely laughable. Yes, it occasionally gets over 100°F but that's rare and not enough to merit the cost and money needed for a dome.

[@marklittle8805]

You think a dome is coming to LA? If they wanted a dome it would have been built. It isnt like the Dodgers are hurting because of the weather

[@gymrat2647]

Haven't seen photos of Dodgers stadium being built before. That's pretty cool and interesting

[@manuelgrothe608]

If Citi Bank Field fails for the NY Mets, Brooklyn, New York for the New York Mets with the Brooklyn Dome

[@DanRustle]

LA IS NOT GETTING HOTTER AND HOTTER! it has been 70ish degrees for the last few weeks.

[@sddodger]

Love your videos, but where are you coming up with a domed baseball stadium in LA?

[@heofonfyr5089]

Why are you so bent on all stadiums becoming domes? Domes are no match for an open air stadium. I live in socal. It doesn’t get that hot. People enjoy the sky and vistas out here.

[@matthewkester3677]

depends on where in socal u are, there are parts of it that get very hot

[@heofonfyr5089]

@@matthewkester3677 who cares. We are talking about LA.

[@bobbowie9350]

@@matthewkester3677 it cools down at night in LA. unlike Las Vegas where its still 90 plus at 9pm in the summer

[@jeffthewhiff]

The rendering of the Wrigley Field in California looks an awful lot like old Tiger Stadium in Detroit.

[@KevinMiller-xn5vu]

To me it looks like Old Comiskey Park, or Sick's Stadium in Seattle.

[@mhbbej1]

Its a shame the Dodgers did not stay in Brooklyn. This location would have been great for the Dodgers right in downtown Brooklyn. A lot of subway lines along with the Long Island Railroad would have left people right at the front door of the stadium.

[@HighpointerGeocacher]

In my opinion, it was good in the long run for the Dodgers and Giants to move to California, back when California was a relatively sane and conservative state, to begin the expansion of Major League Baseball to all regions of the USA, not just confined to the Northeast and Midwest. New York City did get a new team (the Mets) just a few years later, and they became successful within a relatively short period of time (1969 World Series victory).

[@MrChristopherMolloy]

Great video! There was also a Phase-2 plan for Shea Stadium where it was supposed to be entirely encircled with seating and a dome would've been installed. Spitefully, the Atlantic Center shopping center adjacent to the proposed Brooklyn Dome was designed to resemble the facade of a baseball stadium.

[@manuelgrothe608]

I vote Brooklyn, New York for the New York Mets with the Brooklyn Dome, New York Islanders, New York Jets and New York City FC might rejoin Queens, New York

[@MrChristopherMolloy]

@@manuelgrothe608 I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that.

[@manuelgrothe608]

New York City FC and New York Jets might use Citi Bank Field as Football 🏈/Soccer ⚽️ Material when the New York Mets move to the Brooklyn Dome next door to New York’s Nets Barclays Center

[@mariagloriadelcarmen]

New York Liberty of WNBA

[@nortonhatfield7312]

The Dodgers would have stayed in Brooklyn if the Brooklyn dome got built.

[@robbarnes4744]

Nicely done. A couple of points from a long-time armchair Dodgers Historian. You mentioned that Walter had the Dome design drawn up as a ploy to get him to move. But think of the risk he took, taking perhaps the wealthiest team in the country completely across country without a stadium deal in place. If anything, IMO, he was hedging his bets that the Dome would get built. Blame Robert Moses for not being a baseball fan and stalling the stadium. Walter wanted to buy the land, and build the stadium himself. All he needed was the order to condemn the area, and the area was quite run down at the time. Walter also looked at the Rose Bowl as a potential temporary home for the Dodgers. To facilitate the move, Walter traded minor league franchises with Philip Wrigley - Fort Worth for Los Angeles. And lastly, I do think Dodgers Stadium will make it 100 years. Look at Fenway and Wrigley. As others have stated, the majority of games are at night, and LA has a very mild climate; yes I realize it's getting warmer everywhere. And no way do they replace it with a retractable roofed stadium.

[@hotwax9376]

What is the image at 0:25? It looks like a more recent rendering, like someone imagining what such a dome would look like if the Dodgers returned to Brooklyn now.

[@danielfernandez2513]

Depressed Ginger always surprising me with all these domes I had no idea off.

[@manuelgrothe608]

You know why I vote Brooklyn, New York for the New York Mets with the Brooklyn Dome and New York Islanders, New York Jets and NYC FC might rejoin Queens, New York

[@LowKeyGod]

this guys videos sound better in 2x🤣

[@SteveGee1986]

Brooklyn or Queens, that Dome would have been awesome if it had any natural light.

[@johnisouth6636]

I'd love to see Brooklyn get a baseball team again.

[@dougadkins7006]

More research and less speculation. Learn the name Robert Moses, the devil himself.

[@nacho9482]

Olympique stadium Montréal

[@manuelgrothe608]

UBS Arena should relocate to Queens, New York

[@mariagloriadelcarmen]

the Switch

[@ikehammett5160]

That rendering of the Brooklyn Dome looks like one of the renderings of the new Las Vegas stadium. How does anyone really know if it wouldn't still be around today? The Tokyo dome is still a very beloved stadium in Japan. Went to Japan for baseball games and a few of the fans I was talking to, thought Tropicana field was the best in the USA, it was their favorite if they could visit one in America. These rankings are all subjective and probably crooked to make money for some owners. What exactly is the difference between Dodger stadium (great) and the Oakland Coliseum (trash)? It's almost the exact same thing. Dodger stadium is a version of those multi purpose cookie cutter parks, just not completed like they once did at Angel stadium. Both Angel and Dodger stadiums should be 100 year parks.

[@richardsantiago429]

They should build stadium in queens for dodgers like mets . they should not allow moves to la

[@samanthalucas8070]

Los Angeles has better weather than Brooklyn NY The NYY is in Brooklyn why they get a dome

[@kjay1022]

The Dodgers draw so well they don't need a new stadium. But If attendance went down because of the stadium, they would have an excuse to build a new one, and the fans would pay for it.

[@sjdrifter72]

Dodgers ownership is rich enough to privately fund a new stadium, which will never happen because Dodger Stadium was built to last and will never be replaced.

[@rentslave]

They should have moved to Jersey City and played in Roosevelt Stadium until something new was built.

[@kjorlaug1]

As soon as the Angels get their new digs, the Dodgers will quickly move to replace Dodgers stadium

[@markrodriquez3777]

Are you kidding me? A dome in Los Angeles? I work at Dodger Stadium and the summer nights are extremely comfortable. Temperature between 65-75 degrees nightly with zero percent chance of rain. LA has the best weather in the world. Why would you dome it? Also I'm not sure Dodger Stadium will be replaced in our lifetime. Fans have been going there since they were babies. One of the former owners hinted on replacing Dodger Stadium. He was shouted down by the fans.

[@sweetmapleleafs]

Ppl who knock the Dodgers for destroying the community of Chavez Ravine should realize that O'Malley built the Taj Mahal of sports stadiums that would last tje

[@danbratten3103]

They also need to realize that the people were kicked out before the Dodgers even considered moving to LA.

[@moboutmen]

Brooklyn was in serious decline. This may have saved it. Or not. In any case, the Dodgers should still be there.

[@mdit21]

The Dodgers will move back to Brooklyn.😊

[@KevinMiller-xn5vu]

No they won't.

[@sjdrifter72]

That would never happen. Brooklyn is a crime ridden dump like Oakland. And even if they did move back, the Mets would be forced to relocate to L.A. as compensation.

[@blf200000]

Do you think because the heat and other problems in LA, the Dodgers will move back to Brooklyn?

[@adanalyst6925]

Dodgers will never leave LA

[@mhbbej1]

The Yankees and Mets would never let it happen.

[@xl-in1sb]

It is not getting hotter out here in LA its always in the 90’s in the peak of summer and sometimes breaks 100 on a heat wave and a huge fun part of LA/Socal culture is being out at a concert or event or ballgame on a hot summer night. The mainstream media is pushing a false exaggerated narrative on this climate nonsense so the govt can tax more and have more control. If all these politicians and billionares really believed in climate change they wouldnt be buying and building ocean front property and flying around the world in private jets or using child labor at cobalt mines to dig into and destroy mountains for electric batteries.

[@manuelgrothe608]

You know why I vote Brooklyn, New York for the New York Mets with the Brooklyn Dome, New York Islanders, New York Jets and New York City FC might rejoin Queens, New York