The Brutal Philosophy of Jund

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DiceTry

DiceTry

Күн бұрын

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@neminem233
@neminem233 Ай бұрын
As much as I'm not a Jund Person, the Red Center of Jund is something I can *really* appreciate The consistent desire, nay need to do something, anything, at all times is something that I can understand wholeheartedly I especially enjoy the word choice of "the restless need to keep the body busy" is something I was really wowed at
@DiceTry
@DiceTry Ай бұрын
For me that's the one that made me appreciate jund more as well
@heirofheart766
@heirofheart766 Ай бұрын
i rly love playing jund but i think i am more a naya person ghireds sentiment towards the selesnya conclave and the gruul clans resonates well with me i kinda like the untamed wilderness of red green playing it with black is rly fun but i dont think it represents me as good as it does i like the "community/family" aspect of white and pairing it with red and green is just my jam i rly like the Cabaretti of new capenna and Naya would be my first pick for a mtg world to live in
@dathore
@dathore Ай бұрын
"Ultimate freedom, understanding the price one has to pay for it, and the willingness to pay it, always in motion and always wanting more"
@shellfire6931
@shellfire6931 Ай бұрын
As a proud Jund player, I can already tell I'm gonna enjoy this video. Edit: loved it, very much. If I might be allowed to summarize: Black-focused Jund is "history is earned." Red-focused Jund is just the poem To the Stonecutters, which is already my favorite poem. And green-focused Jund is Zane shouting "I know who I am!"
@pyrflie
@pyrflie Ай бұрын
Jund is Rakdos with gasoline(liquefied dinos). It's the War Boys from Mad Max. "Witness Me" is the motto of the entire playstyle. It's my favorite of the 3 color pie just for how much fun it is to play and play against.
@brandoncreek5709
@brandoncreek5709 Ай бұрын
As someone who's constantly worrying and overthinking everything, i have a huge respect for Jund's ability to just jump in and rage 🎉
@Rararahul1313
@Rararahul1313 Ай бұрын
I am glad you revisited Jund. That colour mix always puzzled me in the meaning of the green inside it, and the sense of wisdom and knowing one's place you talked about reasonated in me :)
@lucassmith7770
@lucassmith7770 Ай бұрын
May not play Magic anymore, but Jund will forever be a part of my philosophy. A small token from such a big part of my life now past.
@TotallyACat
@TotallyACat Ай бұрын
Amazing! Definitely a massive improvement over the first Jund video, and incredibly nuanced! I’d like to add some perspective of my own if that’s acceptable: I honestly see the Punk Movement as very Jund. Green manas acceptance turned towards the self by Black and made direct, loud and passionate by Red. The Punk movement is centred greatly around counter-cultural acceptance of one’s self fuelled by the dissatisfaction of a socially conservative (Azorius) society. The desire to be free from the chains others seek to put on them and others, along with a distain towards authoritarianism and blind acceptance of often oppressive authorities that always have ulterior motives. A lot of those who would be considered society’s outcasts are Punk; Racial minorities, LGBTQ+ folk, etc. The character of Hobbie Brown from Into The Spiderverse (literally called Spider-Punk) I find fits this description perfectly. Thanks for another amazing video Dice!
@heirofheart766
@heirofheart766 Ай бұрын
also sounds like the metal community altho i think punk and metal community also lean into naya since their strong sense of having a community
@edocor8081
@edocor8081 Ай бұрын
I just want to say these 3-color philosophy videos are amazing, you bring to light a really layered understanding of how we can interpret these combinations. I really hope you keep going with these, I can’t wait for the next one.
@DiceTry
@DiceTry Ай бұрын
You're in luck I'm working on the next one as we speak
@UEENavy
@UEENavy Ай бұрын
Jund is my favorite color combination!
@gaia9020
@gaia9020 Ай бұрын
Jund is honest, direct and willing to make all the sacrifices necessary to have fun, fight or protect, what ever it is it wants to accomplish :)
@Rei-wu5yv
@Rei-wu5yv Ай бұрын
For me, Jund represents the philosophy of Nietzsche's ubermensch - a man of action and passion (red) for self-serving interests (black), all while staying true to the earth (green). Fantastic video!
@TheMightyBattleSquid
@TheMightyBattleSquid Ай бұрын
Basic farmer is a very interesting idea for Jund I never considered. Like we've certainly gotten Golgari "Rot Farms" before but it's also very true that regular ol' crop rotations fit into a very Jund philosophy.
@PagoAoE2
@PagoAoE2 Ай бұрын
This was a great video. I am an artist who is determined to succeed in the art world. I play a Jund dragon tribal deck in modern. I understand the Jund philosophy well, this was a great video. I would say that I am Jund weighted in Gruul, in other words, Gruul splashing black.
@mrpinguimninja
@mrpinguimninja Ай бұрын
the riveteers are the peaky blinders of magic
@jakepatterson2659
@jakepatterson2659 Ай бұрын
I hope one day they explore a jund culture similar to the Celts - essentially a rock solid belief in reincarnation to the extent of living as fearlessly and as passionately as possible. Vaevictis Asmadi the Dire fits the philosophy of that so well.
@czairkolmoslink5952
@czairkolmoslink5952 Ай бұрын
I love this video, Jund doesn't get understood but this video speaks to what Jund is. The fears attack the willingness to sacrifice to be stronger, be one with oneself and land, and build in the simplest ways. Also creature type I think also represents Jund are Lhurgoyfs I look at the Jund deck from 2020, there was so much that it imbraced even though it was still missing some of the ideas it was Jund. Thank you for this video
@trashtyphoon
@trashtyphoon Ай бұрын
Man, I just finished your old video on Jund from a few years back and was kinda hoping you'd remake it with the more in depth perspective you use today. This video was great!
@just1nb46
@just1nb46 Ай бұрын
Perfect video to watch after making my Slimefoot and Squee EDH deck 🥰
@The_Dying_Rose
@The_Dying_Rose Ай бұрын
Slimefoot & Squee is by far my favorite deck that I've built.
@arrowrandoman
@arrowrandoman Ай бұрын
Jund is one of the two only shards I relate to that have black in them, the other being Mardu. I'm most connected to the ideals of Naya, but the aggressive individualism of Jund helps with certain obstacles that come into my life. I love the approach you've done with this new line of Shard/Wedge Philosophies.
@friendlyshadow6857
@friendlyshadow6857 Ай бұрын
This made me want to play Jund. Good joob❤
@Bigtasty1908
@Bigtasty1908 Ай бұрын
I'm a super new magic player I've always been interested but your videos on the color pie have really drawn me in your videos are so cool thanks for introducing me 🙏
@ArcanayTSG
@ArcanayTSG Ай бұрын
I've never really liked Jund and the color combination, but this honestly got me to respect and start liking it. Thanks for the awesome video
@davidperkins7782
@davidperkins7782 Ай бұрын
Within the past month, I've come to view Jund as representative of a variety of "primal truths" that are inherent within life; truths that contradict cultural ideas. One can recognize these truths just by paying attention to the world around them, but we are more often than not blinded from them by our own deeply held beliefs. These truths are embodied in black (self preservation), red (carnal nature), and green (earthly existence). As opposed to the ideological fanaticism of white, and the over complicating machinations of blue. I also think it's time we get a new +1/+1 counter commander for Jund; a strictly +1/+1 counter commander. And no, vazi doesn't count.
@-Banoffee
@-Banoffee Ай бұрын
Mad respect for green center Jund.
@airesbattleblade732
@airesbattleblade732 Ай бұрын
One of the first magic cards I ever got was a box of Jund shard cards my dad bought for me off of Facebook, with it I tried to build a commander deck with Kresh the Bloodbraided. It never worked well for me, partly due to me being inexperienced, and partly due to me being much more mono-white who sometimes borrows other colors as a person. Even though it should be my anathema colors, I still respect Jund and look on it fondly.
@TheKreve
@TheKreve Ай бұрын
Can't wait for Naya. Naya is so much more than Dinosaurs!
@Carlos-bz5oo
@Carlos-bz5oo Ай бұрын
Yes its also Baylen the non-binary rabbit
@SFTortoise
@SFTortoise Ай бұрын
No! Hush that thought! Lol jk. Naya is pretty good in auras, combat and big beasties
@ubylux3329
@ubylux3329 Ай бұрын
It is also for the best boy voja
@dekaw9138
@dekaw9138 Ай бұрын
⁠@@SFTortoiseand 1/1 counters
@SFTortoise
@SFTortoise Ай бұрын
Jund is a ravenging beat stick combination to me
@MrPhilGee
@MrPhilGee 29 күн бұрын
Very cool & unique video, bravo !
@relicking9207
@relicking9207 Ай бұрын
The thing that comes to mind when I think of Jund is Spiders(Yes I play them with Thantis as the Commander, why do you ask?)
@henlohenlo689
@henlohenlo689 Ай бұрын
land destruction, mana ramp. artifact destruction. big beefy creatures for the casting cost. also great at removal in general. also versatile. cards i like to use in jund in vintage: fracturing gust creeping corrosion shatterstorm kird ape ragavan, nimble pilferer gorilla shaman simian spirit guide violent ultimatum casualties of war desecration demon abyssal persecutor sheoldred the apocalypse dwarven miner dwarven blastminer orcish settlers wake of destruction helldozer army ants wall of roots overgrown battlement axebane guardian wall of tanglecord goblin vandal fanning the flames fireball crackle with power archfiend of the dross rakdos, lord of riots sandwurm convergence crush of wurms baleful ammit vampire nighthawk curse of leeches unnatural growth fiery emancipation grothama, all-devouring
@Caseyuptobat
@Caseyuptobat Ай бұрын
Wrong kind of philosophy
@charleshammel8541
@charleshammel8541 Ай бұрын
This makes me think of sun tzu, haste may be folly but there is seldom wisdom in delay
@dragonarchive7443
@dragonarchive7443 Ай бұрын
Would love to see Sultai next!
@dely9999
@dely9999 4 күн бұрын
Jund is war crimes. The combination of the 3 most fun to play colors Like cheese, tomato and pepperoni on a Pizza
@RidleyIgnatiousAero
@RidleyIgnatiousAero Ай бұрын
What's everyone's favorite Jund deck? Mine is Xira, the Golden Sting.
@eliasfett8165
@eliasfett8165 Ай бұрын
Vaevictis Asmadi. Insidious Dreams in hand + Seize the day + Fiery Emancipation + Avatar of Slaughter. A beautiful warzone if I ever saw one. Morris Guile is a perfect 1 drop in that deck. I play it before I play sol Ring. What fun combo do you like in your deck???
@eliasfett8165
@eliasfett8165 Ай бұрын
Mirris guile. Sorry, spell check messed it up 🤣
@RidleyIgnatiousAero
@RidleyIgnatiousAero Ай бұрын
@@eliasfett8165 My Xira the Golden Sting deck is an Insect kindred deck. It is so resilient that I don't really need to run much more protection aside from Swarmyard.For the most part, the deck is build up an army of Insects, swing out, and put egg counters on the Insects most likely to eat a removal spell for free card draw and Insect tokens.
@crowejagerson3628
@crowejagerson3628 14 күн бұрын
My favorite color combo.
@felipepereira214
@felipepereira214 Ай бұрын
I'm looking forward to Sultai, my psichographic Magic type.
@EmpathNaga
@EmpathNaga Ай бұрын
Okay, I know that asking which card is which is probably a foregone conclusion, but of ALL the art, 8:55 is _gorgeous._ What is that? I must know.
@jkl8401
@jkl8401 Ай бұрын
Xira Arian
@steelcladCompliant
@steelcladCompliant Ай бұрын
Well this is exactly how my Thantis deck operates, both on and off games. I have a LOT of cards that could have a place in it, but they would have to earn it. Every time one of the cards that are in the 99 fails me and gets cut, I imagine the aspirants competing and fighting each other for the right to occupy its place, a place they would then have to defend And during games, the deck feels like everyone in it knows exactly what they are alive for, from the dragons and warriors that beat face, to the flimsy elves and spellcasters whose job it is to make that possible
@The_Dying_Rose
@The_Dying_Rose Ай бұрын
2:38 My boys.
@derekjefferson6485
@derekjefferson6485 8 күн бұрын
Official plea to add a segment for equal parts of all colors in these videos
@wolfzafox229
@wolfzafox229 Ай бұрын
I fkin LOOOVE jund
@jacobwiren8142
@jacobwiren8142 Ай бұрын
"We recently reached 3000 subscribers..." You misplaced a 0 there, bub.
@DiceTry
@DiceTry Ай бұрын
Did I say that.... oh wow, selling myself short.
@eliasfett8165
@eliasfett8165 Ай бұрын
Jund all the way for me. My Vaevictis Asmadi deck always becomes the archenemy in every match. I don't even like playing it against my other decks anymore because it just blows them away almost instantly. It actually makes my matches boring. I can't learn much about my other decks because they're just annihilated. Every match becomes 3 on 1. Every match. I invest into all my decks equally. It's just simply brutal.
@GhostlyGhost333
@GhostlyGhost333 Ай бұрын
I can respect the red focused version of Jund.
@Ctrooper2011
@Ctrooper2011 Ай бұрын
Azorius is an ingrained part of my personality (though I aspire to be an R Lorehold), so I don't like Thunderscape (or Jund or Riveteer). However, I have a ton of respect for Green-led Thunderscape.
@witchBoi_Connor
@witchBoi_Connor 29 күн бұрын
"Bloody evolution"
@XmortoxX1990
@XmortoxX1990 Ай бұрын
After my first taste of Jund with the Disa precon, I am now a big fan of the color. Really love what this color combination evokes. I didn't play New Capena, but if I did, I would've played Riveters. Can you Sultai next or Temur next?
@heirofheart766
@heirofheart766 Ай бұрын
i think he does the shards first before doing the wedges
@czairkolmoslink5952
@czairkolmoslink5952 Ай бұрын
Recommend Prossh if you want a taste of one of the older Jund commanders
@XmortoxX1990
@XmortoxX1990 Ай бұрын
@czairkolmoslink5952 he's ons of the Jund Commander I'm interested. Others being Coram (altwfy have one for the precon) and Lord Windgrace
@DigitalinDaniel
@DigitalinDaniel Ай бұрын
The shard of Jund is my favorite world in Magic, sadly they probably ruined it by merging the shards together. Hopefully we can get full sets that take place in the original Alara and Tarkir somehow...
@eyezerocool
@eyezerocool Ай бұрын
I am watching these new shard videos and I realized that the mtg color philosiphy if paired with actual self improvement and motivation tools. it could be a force of good. A sort of secular self improvement philosophy that improves the world on the level of a religion. it seems to understand people better than any personality test. what drives us. what our motivations actualy are. it could be{as paired with actual tools of self improvement or guided} a forces that with that self knowledge help us change ourselves for the better. the irony being the hole thing coming from a card game not meant to do any of that... lol.
@eyezerocool
@eyezerocool Ай бұрын
I hate to ask you this. don't you have another channel where you did music for each realm. or am I wrong. could you add that channel to a list of channels here to help me and others find it if so.
@foney2000
@foney2000 Ай бұрын
Kick ass, now do sultai next
@QueenoftheSkunks
@QueenoftheSkunks Ай бұрын
I'm an agent of Azorius watching this to figure out how to defeat my truest enemies
@pokegard
@pokegard Ай бұрын
I would recommend a planet sized kindergarten, if you make it well enough they probably won’t leave
@GrinningNimbus
@GrinningNimbus Ай бұрын
Ah shit it's the fun police skeedaddle!
@dekaw9138
@dekaw9138 Ай бұрын
I’m a Naya guy watching this to learn about one of my friendliest enemies
@eliasfett8165
@eliasfett8165 Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 I like Azorious as well, but Jund is my favorite. One tip I suggest, force Jund to slow down. Jund is brutal the moment it gets off the ground.
@pierantonioparziale5536
@pierantonioparziale5536 Ай бұрын
please tell me you're doing Naya before Bant, chief
@DiceTry
@DiceTry Ай бұрын
I am currently editing the Naya video now, it should be out this Sunday
@opinionofmine3238
@opinionofmine3238 Ай бұрын
I must say I was very confused in this video. I'm not sure if it's something specific about how you worded this or if it's just that Jund is that much more of an alien mindset to mine that I'm struggling to comprehend even the gist of what you're getting at with it.
@putridblightking1697
@putridblightking1697 Ай бұрын
Fr me,jund
@mightythor-9286
@mightythor-9286 Ай бұрын
yeah the riveters garb aint it.
@matthewdaley4403
@matthewdaley4403 Ай бұрын
Have you done a Philosophy of WUBRG? I'm curious how you would capture that?
@maxmichalik4938
@maxmichalik4938 Ай бұрын
I feel that you leaned too Gruul and too little Black in your descriptions of Red and Green focused Jund. In Red you described a simplistic and emptional worldview, tempered with the willingness to build and the knowledge of one's place and the impermanence of things. But none of that is really Black. Green knows full well that what grows will eventually wither and what is built will eventually crumble. So your description fits just as well for a more settled Gruul person. For Green you took Green's standard outlook and gave it the will to act and to stand by its actions. Brashness and surety. Again, those are found perfectly well in mono-Red. So what you described is the Gruul wiseman and the Gruul leader. What I am missing is the reminder of how both of those are still more Black than standard Gruul. How a Green focused Jund still knows that its place is at the top or occasionally serving the top in order to become the top later. How a Red focused Jund still does what it does for hedonistic purposes and doesn't just accept that things are impermanent, but revels in being part of the reason for that impermanence. I think that one reason for such things is that the focus on the Riveteers is a distracting one. They are in my honest opinion a bad fit for their own color. Their own plane (New Capenna) drags them into the White-ness of functional city life. Here's what I mean: The Riveteers emphasize solidarity and service to a community. Those are distinctly White traits. They actively try to make life better not just for themselves, but for others like them, others who fit into the ingroup of rough, hard working people exploited by the elite. I see a lot of Boros in the Riveteers. They could have just as easily been Mardu if WotC had decided to make them that, without much in the way of reflavoring. I blame this on New Cappena's influence. It is a deeply Orzhov colored place and suppresses Green elements within. Both the Brokers and the Cabaretti care less about fate, tradition or nature than one would expect from Green and are willing to harm the outgroup and advance themselves over their fellow ingroup peers more than the supposed lack of Black would indicate. All leaders willingly participated in their own demonification and the draining of angels. They all set up the current system of crime and subterfuge. This is why the factions there, outside of maybe the Obscura and Maestros, are flawed examples to examine when it comes to tri-color organizations. Similar to how one should not ascribe a willingness to teach, learn and research to just any enemy pair just because they are institutions of learning and legacy in Strixhaven.
@fiendishmia506
@fiendishmia506 Ай бұрын
as a grixis enjoyer, i really dislike jund. i feel as if it takes every trait that can ensure one's thriving and happiness and throws it out for the moment, but even then i almost feel jealous of the fact that it finds bliss in (what i see to be) ignorance
@Brainlag7
@Brainlag7 Ай бұрын
I feel like you kinda sold short Red based Jund and especially in New Capenna. For me it is obviously showing the desire for freedom and better life for everyone because it also sees the power in unity. A rebel fighting against injustice. A union of workers who are ready to go to war for their rights. Socialism definitely played a big role of inspiration to the designers tasked with the Riveteers.
@loneoutsider8004
@loneoutsider8004 10 күн бұрын
F*** Socialism🤬
@Cvusmo
@Cvusmo Ай бұрын
As a Grixis player... i cannot stand anything with green.
@pyrflie
@pyrflie Ай бұрын
Jund is Rakdos with oil (liquefied dinos). I get the green hate, but in Jund it's just fuel.
@Grombrindal
@Grombrindal Ай бұрын
What comes to mind when I think of Jund? Mostly bad decks and bad players
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