The Bully’s Trap | Andrew Faas | TEDxChathamKent

[@clint120]

Good employees, competent, eager to do their job, these are the first to be bullied .

[@garryatkinson815]

Yep,all I wanted to do was do a good job, 2 chaps are suspended right now(bullies),some of their sympathisers giving me stick now though.

[@scott8151]

I agree, you are correct.

[@calvinlong1265]

@@scott8151 now you tell me. . . I agree completely.

[@someonecurious9437]

Exactly. They are the best ones!

[@Bellasie1]

Yes. Worldwide.

[@hughsuckleberg7534]

I lost everything to bullying at work. I can tell you don't go to HR department they are not there to protect you they are there to protect the company ,and the more proof you bring them and they realize you are right,they will turn on you to protect there interests,so when you go down that road don't be surprised your fighting with the bully and the company.

[@TheHeartOne]

EXACTLY, Hugh! You are describing my experience perfectly! Pathetic.

[@Amanda-de-Panda]

I'm afraid I tend to agree on this having worked in HR and the reason I left that career.

[@mimsi4]

I lost my baby as a result of a monstrous level of stress after a year and a half of bullying including during my pregnancy. I deposited complaince with HR and they brush everything under the carpet. I suffered PTSD and felt suicidal after. The Union couldn't help me. I left that job few months ago. The bully is still there and thriving. I've been told a group of employees deposited another complain against him and again no actions has been taken.

[@curiousone6435]

@@mimsi4 I just lost my job and income, career, security clearance, health insurance (I've just been diagnosed with PTSD and desperate to alleviate the symptoms so I can function -- now I wonder how I will get the care I need, since this has destroyed my ability to cope and function each day). I am so sorry to hear you lost your baby and that nobody you would've relied on was there to stand up for you. I don't know what I'm going to do now (will I become homeless? I don't have much of a support network to rely on or help me through this). I know you wrote this a month ago (I got fired last week). How does an individual cope or pick up the pieces after this sort of thing? I hope wherever you are, that your health is recovering, that people in your life are supportive and caring, and that you feel optimistic this will not tear you (or others) down. The subject is gaining more attention and if enough people complain, maybe policies and laws will be created to deal with this appropriately so that nobody has to go through something so senseless and needless like this. Wishing you all the best.

[@foxieedee8435]

@@mimsi4 , I am so sorry about your loss. I hope you are on a path to healing...

[@scott8151]

The victim does not not become a bad employee. They are redefined as a bad employee by management and HR.

[@tahwsisiht]

Yes. When you work with people for many-many years, you just don't wake up one morning and become narcissistic. You were managing yourself for years and then overnight: you become someone with personality disorder. One day you wake up and you say: I will take down my workplace. You will not think that you alone will start to manipulate from a position where you are not on top. You will take down the whole shebang. It is much more likely that you actually spoke up for the injustice, people in position and power over you decided to silence you and run a negative ad campaign. In my case, it is very hard because I see many opportunities that fits my qualification, but that long time employment with those people who will not gave positive reference is just years of hole in the resume. I experienced such of abuse that I can recognize an environment where the structure is unhealthy and ego driven. I also learned how much time and energy can be wasted on workplace politics at the expense of creativity and sufficiency. I believe that a group of people who have passion for their job, dedicated to the task, have respect for each other, open minded and listen to their coworkers can move mountains.

[@allkindsamusicchick]

@Supercollider If employees are committing suicide over the tarnishing, then, I would consider mobbing/bullying a True Crime that ought to be prosecuted!! Legislature is greatly needed to minimize/eradicate these occurrences.

[@999timepass]

@@allkindsamusicchick Absolutely. The CEO of France Telecom wassent to jail, however, after 10 year trial. It was a high profile case as over 30 employees comitted suicide in a span of 3 years.

[@dadthegreat3076]

HR is so complicit in this position issue. Making the victims the villains is so true.

[@tamikadriver36]

Yes, Embassy Suites as housekeeping was framed after going to human resources for help from a man harassing me there , of coarse she took his side he was there b4 me, had all the friends ,I hate I ever went to human resources,

[@chriscunningham8807]

DARVO..deny abuse reverse victim and offender. Common in much abuse and harassment. The victim appears crazy and the perpetrator acts calm and reasonable.

[@ZoeGoldenLife]

Yes, I was the victim of bullying at the work place. The bully portrayed herself to be the victim & sounded like the victim. Everyone believed her lies. I was new & everyone believed I was the bully. HR did nothing about it.

[@Syed.S.A]

Very true HR is a political cover for business they don't care about victims.

[@lesleyelalami2562]

@@chriscunningham8807 How true this is..... The Switch..... offloading their toxicity, because of course they're perfect aren't they?!! LOL

[@beautifultruth3114]

All of this resonates. I've been bullied, then changed jobs only to work with friends of the bullies who then began to bully. I did have PTSD for a spell. Not long lasting. I now work as a healer of people who have been the target of bullying. It's a nightmare that very few adults understand unless they've gone through it.

[@999timepass]

God bless you

[@nathlieandrews6256]

He said management is behind bullying and it is true.

[@portimolia]

The management did nothing. felt that table turned on me instead. PTSD...he's sure right about that.

[@scott8151]

Absolutely. And HR supports management.

[@MissUnderstoodasAlways]

Nathlie Andrews wow. 😡.

[@pedinurse1]

they want to bully in order to control people

[@lemostjoyousrenegade]

@@pedinurse1 EXACTLY!

[@deirdre8744]

One way to deal with a bully is to get yourself a bigger "bully" in the form of a strong union or an experienced lawyer. It is important to remember that having taken such action, you will no longer be able to work for the organization. At least, you will leave with your dignity, having fought the good fight, and might even make life easier for those workers who remain.

[@sumeet07oct]

A victim is a victim because he/she don’t know how to bull back. And they don’t go with legal actions bcz the bully guys play very cleverly and diplomatically.

[@2Ryled]

Lawyers can't do much. There aren't a lot of laws in the books

[@allkindsamusicchick]

@@sumeet07oct We're not interested in getting in the mud with the pigs or stirring up the dust. We want to work. We want to go home.

[@BlaqBarbz]

This happens in Australia also

[@jnazzise]

Bring unions back!

[@sieracki001]

Bullies are everywhere in organizations now. They are used as the "attack dogs" for senior management. They have been in effect given a license to kill, and what they do is manage out employees who they think are threats, or occupy positions that they would like to see filled by one of their confederates. For the most part, they attack and see the response. Then the response is made the issue, not the initial attack. So the target will be seen as a "difficult employee" if they cannot handle "frank criticism." They keep attacking until they get the response they want. Your job is not to given in. You will be tested at some point.

[@PersonWConscience]

Yes, not to give in. Be strong, outwit and document until you have enough to shove in the faxe of the management to do something about it.

[@sjc04d]

Moraine LAKE exactly

[@thoughtentity]

Moraine LAKE very well put.

[@chriscunningham8807]

This happened to me. I thanked them and sent a smiley emoticon when they sent a text stating I was fire for unacceptable conduct after being harassed for weeks, snubbed and bullied by peers and backstabbed for being difficult. Once the rot sets in it is wise to jump ship.

[@cacatr4495]

@@chriscunningham8807 What, in actuality, were your responses that they labeled "being difficult?" It would be interesting to know the truth from you, and how they labeled it.

[@matilda4406]

I've come to learn that bullies are deeply insecure and create trouble and fear and suffering for others, never give in to them!!!!! There are many ways to deal with them (sometimes not dealing with them is the right way), however, just having knowledge that this is who they are is the first step.

[@Miniweet9167]

Matilda I was fired because I stood up to 6 months of cyber bullying and non stop teasing by an associate and a junior coordinator. I was fired with cause even after presenting my complaint. It’s been sent in front of a workplace arbitrage agency. I am awaiting mediation. I spent a week in a 24h suicide prevention unit away from my family and have had to have my wife take out of her retirement fund to help me pay the mortgage. I am seriously medicated and am suffering from chronic anxiety and ptsd symptoms. I was a top performer and was fired 2 month before the law would have required the boss to pay me compensation for several months of burnout. The bully is still an associate.

[@saumitrsharma2816]

@@Miniweet9167 Hey! I feel sorry for you. Hope you get ok

[@bliss4383]

@@Miniweet9167 oh, wow. I forgot. For a very pserful video on cyber bullying to support your case, watch the TEDx Talk - MONICA LEWINSKY - THE HIGH PRICE OF SHAME. She, too, was put on suicide watch. That video will put the proverbial nail in the coffin on your case. She became the spokeswoman in the battle against cyber bullying.

[@allkindsamusicchick]

You are a wise woman, Matilda!

[@mariclarosorio41]

Omg! This exactly what I've been through with these bullies!!! So I stood up. I fought! I reported them to EEO, OIG, OSC, JCAHO, Board of Nursing, Board of Medical Examiner, District Office, Congressman and Senators. I also reached out to our community to get support. I'm still waiting for the result. I'm ready to fight. I kept all my evidence and I'm so ready to face them. The Union has been supporting me 100%.

[@deborahgillette-youngblood9953]

Mariclar Osorio you are very lucky to have the union’s support. The Union President in my school district was very concerned with keeping his connections with the administration. So it was easier to ignore and allow a teacher to be destroyed than take on an administrator.

[@DoubleRainbows-fp6ih]

Sounds like )like me) you are in the nursing field. Crazy for a so called caring institution. Things are changing now Thanks to our new anti-abuse laws and some very serious cases. But we still need more coaching about Emotional abuse. The anti-abuse coaching we all got (in the UK 2018) focus mainly on physical focus rather than the horrendous psychological and emotional bullying.

[@ironempath7261]

Mariclar Osorio I, too, would appreciate learning how you are doing and how your case has unfolded. Your attitude is just plain inspirational and appears to have touched many here. It is in No way comforting to find so many sincere comments here from working heroes in so many different fields. I read too many stories here of bullying roots resting comfortably at the managerial level. I believe this will be stopped in part by never remaining silent. This bullying plague must be eradicated. Care for yourselves well, lovingly, as you would another enduring the same trauma. Please continue to speak. Your testimony is a powerfully effective tool for digging up workplace bully mobbing and ostracism, and bringing them out into the light where they cannot continue to thrive.

[@TheHeartOne]

I am going to pray for you that you win!!!!

[@tutsecret499]

Sue them employment lawyer and/or Work Compensation lawyer. And they will stop abusing you. keep writing down everything. Even in 3rd world country has law to punish the mobbing and protect the victims.

[@Nikki8828]

Happening right now and I have confronted..will keep doing so and won't back down. Narcissistic people are cowards. I learned through many experiences how they work and that's my armour

[@PropertyVlogsUK]

Spirit Warrior you need to leave, and make notes and take evidence of the bullying.

[@PersonWConscience]

Working at an environment that is free and save from from bullying and violence is a fundamental right.

[@beckycollett917]

I realize I am seeing this presentation months after presented and commented on, but that is the beauty of the venue. I am a former Elementary School Teacher. Yearly our classrooms had presentations by the School Psychologist and performed role play examples of bullying. It was enlightening and effective not only in educating the students but teachers as well. I learned so much about the issues and how to identify bullies. One of the responses to a bully was to have a friend that will stand with you and refuting the bully's words by saying the opposite about the bullied person back to the bully. It kind of defuses their power. I am now, a Senior Citizen, working for a Multi- million dollar foreign car company and see bullying going on from supervisors and team mates in the open office. Working in this Call Center environment you are EXPECTED to take bullying from the customer calling in as well. So Bullying by way of over supervising and managing, intimidating by way of public exhibits of performance levels(daily emails showing where you rank with everyone else's daily performance- in the effort to promote competitiveness- to everyone on the team), just a few ways and managing you by way of threats of being fired if you don't measure up in one area of competency when you excel in other areas constitutes bullying in my book. Leading to open bullying verbally by team mates and belittling their value or rights for the sake of a laugh from others, within earshot of the Supervisor who only comments "Now come on guys." It hurts my heart to hear and see and experience this in the world. I've been trying to find another job, but am finding that "Ageism" has kicked in and past experience as a manager of up to 30 students in a classroom doesn't constitute the ability to work in the business world as a manager, so I take entry level positions, where you have to prove yourself in a call center meeting NUMBER metrics not Person metrics(performance on customer surveys, of which the majority are All 10s). Business Values NUMBERS not people.

[@TheHeartOne]

BEAUTIFULLY SAID!!! WELL DONE!!!

[@captain758]

Thank you for this lecture! I have endured this for 26 years as a female in the fire service, where I believe many Type A Bullying personalities lie. I have made it through, with constant bullying, back stabbing, and derogatory statements. I have PTSD due to this as well as issues with confidence but I know now that I am okay and I will be the better person because of it. I loved the statement that the CEO is also the bully because he/she condones it and often is one. My organization has so many of them in the command staff that it would be difficult to talk about just one of them. Ironically, now some of the bullies are being bullied by younger bullies. Thank you God for a pension and a way out.

[@samantha6670]

Why didn't you look for another job ? I mean its not a month or a year, it's 26 years...

[@amelittaberretta9109]

When we finally die, we will no longer have to fear others. Looking forward to a time of “Lack of fear of others and having to please people.”.

[@flyfreebirdy7017]

I've had depression and anxiety already from child hood trauma then put in a place where bullying is highly excepted even cheered I was getting so so sick. There was no understanding of my afflictions in the first place just ridicule and abuse.

[@saumitrsharma2816]

Same for metoo... However we should fight back with tooth and nail.

[@godisgood9820]

They're murderers. I'm going through the same thing.

[@TheHeartOne]

"Fail to honor people, and they will fail to honor you!" Lao Tzu

[@IamSMWISD-qq6uk-p8x]

This is what I call real INFORMATION! This is so important today.

[@erik-charlesscott2989]

I’m really so glad to have found this video. I have been bullied now for over 4 years that I have hard evidence to prove and it is exactly as he describes and is just as devastating to experience. It really does take a hard working energetic employee and turn them into a frightened shell of a human being. It’s literally horrific and definitely has the potential to make one consider taking their own life when they are truly the victim of bullies.

[@allkindsamusicchick]

Never take your life due to being bullied by morons. Really! The worst they can do...is have your job.

[@allkindsamusicchick]

@Supercollider Yeah? I take notes, and IMO...they're not so sophisticated.

[@allkindsamusicchick]

@SupercolliderI understand, but I leave with my integrity. A respectful employer is what I deserve. I have endured much with bravado. I know who I am! Happy Holidays!!

[@andrewc.2952]

Thank you for speaking for me. I just came out of a year long battle with this. My bully was a gorgeous woman. Which made it even more unbelievable. She sucked the life out of me. I felt like I had the side of my head blown off by the time she had me fired after her previous long term attempt had failed. God it was terrible. That was two weeks ago. I'm feeling better every day. I hope for a better job soon.

[@chrissolon5165]

Thank you for confirming the very thing I have been saying for years. The company that finally understands what workplace bullying and harassment is and eradicates it and all other "office politics" (weak terminology for workplace harassment), will be the company that attracts and retains the best and brightest employees, and thus will be the most efficient, innovative and profitable company. Regrettably, I do not think I will ever see this in my career or lifetime, as it seems that sociopaths in the workplace is on a steady increase with no signs of any reversal. I have been the target of a workplace sociopaths (workplace bullying) at my last three places of employment. As Andrew had mentioned, the main reason for the sociopath to target me was that they saw me as a threat. The workplace sociopath (bully) will always target those that are more talented, knowledgeable or hard working, unless the more talented, knowledgeable or hard working person capitulates to the sociopath (bully), often doing the work and coming up with innovative ideas, yet allowing the sociopath (bully) to have the credit and recognition. I believe that some people are born a sociopath (narcissistic and having little or no empathy) and some learn sociopathic traits (I have read books that call this learned psychopathy). Many colleges / universities today instill the sociopathic ideals to students. Interestingly, I had seen video from Harvard Business School that taught people who to better "play the office politics". What Harvard should be teaching is how to eradicate office politics from the workplace.

[@Julie-7605]

Shared this on my Facebook wall so my 700+ friends can see it. It is a first step towards doing something about it. Education the masses.

[@PersonWConscience]

Excellent. I will do the same

[@unclerob3474]

Raising awareness

[@thoughtentity]

Thank you for this, after six years of work-place bullying supported and encouraged by management I completely agree. It's not just what's right, it's smart business. We must change the systems that promote bullying.

[@ared9169]

No HR department can protect you from bullying if it comes from (or is condoned by) top management. Trust me, I know. I worked as a HR manager for a company like this for seven years! It was terrible and my health suffered as a result. I tried everything possible to try and make a difference and to effect change, but I ended up being the one with a target on my back and eventually resigned.

[@jeffroberts1649]

Thank you Andrew Faas. I thought to myself many times I was suffering from PTSD and I can first-hand validate every word you spoke to be true. Not only is it true it is the tip of the iceberg! More than six years have passed since I was terminated from my position after 5 years of dealing with a multitude of attempts to discredit me by the "bully" and his entourage of stooges, saddest thing is they can be so good at their manipulation they can even convince the owners of companies.

[@lesleyoxspring7202]

I wish I'd known you 20 years ago. I've had great jobs and great bosses, but I have also had bullies. I've felt that bullying in the workplace is like domestic violence. It's done with no witnesses or before those who couldn't/wouldn't fight back. One boss came in whilst I was on the phone to a client, explaining their case to them, in a manner instructed by my other boss. This individual who stormed in said: "You're here to take messages, not to talk to clients" and whacked me on my left arm. I later discovered my rotor cuff had been displaced and had to go for physical therapy. On a later occasion it was the end of the month when the accounts tapes had to be transcribed. I had got in early and stayed late (not claiming overtime) to complete this task but my other boss had a very urgent tape which needed to be done immediately. This took an hour and a half out of the time I'd planned. I did said tape then resulted the accounts work when the above mentioned individual started shouting at me, that I was not trustworthy etc., etc. Me, exhausted and having taken much from this person I "had at it" with them both. They were shocked. They hadn't seen me respond (I hadn't told anybody about the assault because I wouldn't have been believed and possibly would have lost my job). The end result was negotiation and no further bullying occurred but this needs to be dealt with.

[@maryvaltierra3944]

Just went through this and left my new job after 1 month, my feelings were not recognized by my superior or HR. I left the hostile work environment to save myself.

[@jamessoucy3740]

Thank you sir! I had an experience lately that is very similar to what you stated. I turned in my manager for years of abuse and now I have been given a final warning and he is sitting pretty while I look like a overly sensitive liar! It is good to know that I am not alone and that there is hope for those who are taken advantage of and harassed.

[@SoulDelSol]

As a supervisor i stood up for someone who was bullied and i became a target as a result

[@scott8151]

Would you stand up for someone again?

[@SoulDelSol]

@@scott8151 i left a 6 figure job and now make a lot less. The person i stood up for got fired a couple months before i put in my notice. Financially things hsve been tough and grass isnt always greener but im working for much healthier and more supportive people which is important to me for my own mental health. What ive decided to do for time being is avoid middle management positions as that dynamic is really challenging (literally stuck in middle between advocating for my team vs enforcing my boss's policies). I have to believe that if i do what is right I'll be ok but that includes what's right for me too. Another technique i have implemented to avoid being in that situation again is not making my job my whole life to degree that im not so emotionally invested in debating management decisions that i disagree with. Pick my battles i guess. I wouldve handled it differently in retrospect but i did best i could at that time

[@chickletmonstah]

Thanks for standing up for someone else and for sharing your perspective.

[@samantha6670]

​@SoulDelSol You were right standing up. You paved the way for other to do the same, trust me.

[@juliedusenberry9450]

bullying is a very serious problem. I work for the state of California and the management gets away with alot. through my research , I have noticed unless you fit in a protective status you cannot get help from the inside of

[@PersonWConscience]

I am sorry that you could not get help. We meed Anti bullying law

[@j.a.fligor97]

omg...i just made this very comment this week.....

[@rfreeman5012]

Yes you can document it all and call the union. Trust me.

[@MsKerrina]

That Tedtalk by Andrew Faas says it all. It's a great summary of a complex problem. I live in Australia and came across this video just this week ( Aug 2017) I am over in England trying to forget the trauma inflicted by bullying and harassment over a period of several years. I was medically retired in the end Jan 2015 because I stayed until it was too late, as I loved the job and the kids I taught. The depression that comes from PTSD can hit you anywhere any time. I have come a long way in my recovery but being asked what work do I do or have I retired yet can be a trigger as has happened over here. Bullying is so rife in Australian workplaces too. I was bullied by the senior office manager, the principal and a couple of his minions in a primary school. Unblemished record until the principal got it in for me because I dared to report him for code of conduct breaches. I was targeted big time after that. He spent his July holidays concocting a 28 complaint report on my behaviour and conduct and that alone, with no previous blemish to my record in over 30 years was enough to get me medically retired. I was unwell by then but on reading that fallacious report did not return to that school that I'd dedicated half my life to (28 years) I am still working on getting some justice and would love for all people who have experienced serious long term bullying in Australian schools to work together to make change. Also want to challenge the teachers federation who were complicit in the whole problem because as I was told in no uncertain terms, represented the principal too. I WAS ADVISED BY MY UNION CASE MANAGER TO RETIRE IF I WISHED TO FINISH MY CAREER WITH DIGNITY. Please contact me via Facebook kerrinalaraineswords if you wish to join me in communicating with the Australian Education Union re the lack of support for teachers being harassed and bullied.

[@TheHeartOne]

You are describing what happened to me! YES, IT HAPPENS IN SCHOOLS TO DEDICATED PROFESSIONALS WHERE WE TEACH CHILDREN!!! Absolutely sickens me to this day. But I recognized what was going on and left....but not before I lost over 30 pounds and still suffer from symptoms of PTSD and sleep deprivation....STILL! And that has been almost 10 years ago! Pathetic cowards!

[@strengthnhope7]

Kerrina Swords+ Welcome to England the home of bullies ! It's everywhere. I work for the nhs and have the same problem. HR are there to support management, the Union are useless because the hospital pays their salary and Restructuring is being used as a tool to get rid of people the managers don't like. It's dog eat dog, sick and toxic atmosphere and that's just the nhs. Bullying is everywhere; look what happens in the House of Commons and how MPs bully one another and they are leading the country by example. ZERO TOLERANCE is the way to go, but unfortunately it is not happening. Welcome to England.

[@chriscunningham8807]

Bullies thrive in Australian schools. Instead of seeking justice aim for coping skills to regain some peace from the nightmare.

[@vaughanzh2647]

I heard from my last work place that one lady was humiliated by her boss the day before she died from heart-attack... People (those bully) should regularly check with psychologists to see if their mental health are on the right track.

[@deliagil5635]

Los actos de Bully deben de ser catalogados como actos delictivos.

[@apickard3975]

Great job. It is good to know that we have individuals who will speak up for others. Keep up the good work. Thank You!

[@nomoretears4345]

This is a serious problem, but what's being done about it? Nothing...... I've lived this twice and it has destroyed my life. Who cares? No One...There is no integrity at the workplace. I was told that the company had a policy against harassment, but what good is it when the person who is suppose to report it, is apart of it. I can't even tell the truth in a interview about why I left my last job because I will be considered a trouble employee and they won't hire me. Where does the bullying end even when you are forced to leave? The answer, it doesn't....

[@lalouloune6156]

I just went through the same thing. The sad part is that now I am scared it happened again.

[@nomoretears4345]

+La Louloune I wish I could tell you it won't. What I will suggest is that you document everything that crosses your boundaries. Keep it at home and make sure you have dates and times and who was involved. It's also important to keep communication with supervisors in writing. Human Resources works for the company and that's why it's so important to be your own advocate. Never give them any information they can use against you. As long as they think they have the upper hand with the abuse they will continue it. Documentation is a very resourceful way of proving harassment to those who can help with this type of abuse. Until laws are passed where business are held accountable and penalized then workplace harassment will continue. Try not to allow it to consume your mind but be mindful and protect your rights. Wishing you the best.

[@fourcats4448]

My bully destroyed my career and even my ability to do most jobs. I had a huge case of PTSD. I'm glad that I'm finally retired but the effects stay with me even though I quit working for the bully in 2004. I still have dreams of being in that job and the constant fear I lived with every day. Back then. nobody knew what workplace bullying was. My bully was a judge elected by the county's voters and he had no oversight. There was little I could do. I tried but my union and the state administration refused to deal with the problem. At one point, I had a breakdown. Still, there was no remedy. When he sabotaged my attempt to transfer out, I knew I would never get away from him unless I quit. After I quit, he made sure nobody in the legal field would hire me. I became homeless, went on welfare, finally got a job making $8.00 an hour. And this guy is still on the bench.

[@jasminflower3814]

Shocking story. ;-(

[@ObjectiveIncision]

I'm absolutely certain that the mentally ill seniors (and all their minions) in question consider the $1 trillion 'loss' a worthwhile _investment_ to nurse their incurable addiction to recreational stupidity. Such people live the life of destitute beggars, because their terminal addiciton (to seeing someone else suffer) is irreversible, hence *The Day When That One Special Employee Devastatingly shoves their asses back into their mouths, that will be the start of their sad ending ensuing sleepless nights and rotting deterioration thereon, during which none of their previous successes (in harrassment) will come to their rescue!* .. Right now, as I write this, many of them are dying a slowwwwwwwwww rotting decaying death.. so each day is a celebration! 1

[@JackVox]

Very insightful, this is exactly how the workplace bully operates.

[@kaworunagisa4009]

HR are not just part of the problem, in many cases they are exactly the problem. I've been systematically bullied by HR in 2 different companies, both times I quit when I couldn't take it anymore and then spent several months nursing myself back from a severe burnout.

[@annaw5604]

My workplace was rife with bullying. HR was well aware: numerous stree leaves, workcover claims for psychological injury. Results of surveys indicated the problem. How the HR reacted? They organised annual 2 hours "training how to recognise bullying". Everyone could recognised it all right, the bullies' names were public knowledge. At one of the training sessions, a young HR man told the audience: "if the work situation is so awful, why bother to stay, to cling to the job. My advice: quit". One graduate on placement asked:"Isn't is the HR's role to prevent such cases and deal with situations". The HR man did not respond. He just left. The graduate was not hired. I find it hard to forget. Especially, as 1 work colleague committed subside, another suffered a heart attack at work and died. Employees were forbidden to speak about those deaths. A partner of the second man was pushed out of the organisation.

[@bibolcs]

This is everywhere, anytime in any single place here in America, even in your own home with your own family.

[@corinadanaeca4778]

Excellent speech. I was bullied at work recently, and now I am unclear about the future. I was bullied into doing something I wasn't comfortable with doing, and now I am the one who is in trouble. I'm scared, and hope everything goes well for me and my daughter moving forward. I sincerely hope that legislation puts laws into effect to protect employees rights. Because, it's scary to have something bad happen to you, and no one in your corner. I appreciate this man's speech a lot.

[@rejects101]

I totally agree with everything you have said including the collusion of HR. I recently left a global software organisation after 6 years that professed to be people centric and for work/life balance. It could not have been farther from the truth particularly within middle management. I know this because I was subject to bullying on several occasions by different managers, it is rife!

[@ryr1974]

Thank you so much for this work and for your thorough and dedicated commitment .

[@shellytaylor4292]

This is exactly what happened to me I was severely bullied in my workplace.

[@thechildsupportspecialista3008]

I just went through a classic example of this on my job. inwasbgig recently promoted to an executive level position and had to face a known bully in the company. He bullied me and changed a company policy on interim positions at the company that had been one of the good things about working at this company. After he literally fired me, demoted me, and sent me back to my original position, I lodged a complaint with HR that got no results. HR acknowledged his behavior and basically told me thanks for bringing it to their attention so that they can keep it from happening to anyone else. This bully had his entire department brainwashed and afraid of him. What's so surreal is the fact that many people warned me about this person so people that have tenure there know about his shenanigans. I'm going to do myself a favor and just find a job with a better company...listening and viewing this video helps me digest this travesty and move on with my life and career. I advise anyone going through this to leave the company if HR doesn't do anything about the bully...

[@actsrv9]

If the workplace is effectively a gutter / sewer, you simply have to get out. :)

[@DoubleRainbows-fp6ih]

Agreed. Our health is more important.

[@ajc2208]

Thank you. You so described my own personal situation of being targeted at work when I tried to expose my sadistic bully. I left that place with severe health issues including ptsd. Good luck with your informative campaign.

[@DoubleRainbows-fp6ih]

Only a bully would give this one of the 17 thumbs down! Maybe it is to close to the Truth for a bully. I'm sick of them they blighted my school years....My mother most of my life. I thought of suicide but now I want to help others like me to thrive. They are absolute cowards....or why else would they need to isolate us, triangulate and spread gossip....They are the troubles ones and not us. Very sick individuals.

[@allkindsamusicchick]

Judith, Those worthless pieces of slime are not worth your precious life! True and do not forget that, or succumb to hurting yourself even further.

[@TheHeartOne]

Judith, you are absolutely correct regarding the "thumbs down" cowards! But your life is very special....you said it right: "Very sick individuals." YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THEM!!! DO NOT LET THEM WIN!!! Blessings!!!

[@loveevynn5042]

Yep they are miserable and extremely insecure

[@gailwells2505]

SpiritualLight 4 Am

[@c.t5136]

Thank you for giving this talk. You have defined my experiences and that has helped me feel a little relief. I wish you happiness and I hope you continue your excellent work.

[@hermione3muller674]

they bully because they can. so true.

[@scooble]

In my last role as Quality coordinator, I had to chair departmental management meetings. I remember in one, the head of HR stated, that Head Office has mandated bullying and harassment training. He emphasised that the only reason we needed to do it was to show "that we had done our bit" by providing the course. He also 'jokingly' said to one of the Managers (who was a bully) that it didn't apply to him. There was nothing about making the work place safer and less toxic. Sure enough, after the training was done, this (bully) Manager, would still continue to make unnecessary personal insults (weight/appearance) about other people (not in the room), whilst the other Managers laughed along with him.

[@Alex-gu2ws]

It astounds me how common and how many times I've encountered or seen this. It is way too accepted. That's why I'm going to graduate school, to hopefully have a little bit more choice in where I work. I'm also trying to make money on the side, and may go try to do my own full time business in the future.

[@lp-qr6lb]

This is what I did, I started my own business. I feel free, happy etc. I am not being monitored, used, bullied, overlooked. Best decision I have ever made!!!

[@ginaheaton2203]

Lilyann WTH? You’re in hiding? What do you mean by “ Advisor .” 18 years?

[@myroseaccount]

I have been reasonably successful reaching Director level in a multi-national IT company. But over the years I have been subjected to bullying and at times quite outrageously appalling behaviour. I recently led a major programme on behalf of a Global Bank. One of the Bank's senior management commented to my boss how impressed they were that I maintained my calm and decorum in the face of "outrageously provocative behaviour". This was standard practice. It should be said that I do have significant seniority and I saw outright bullying of Bank staff that I could do nothing about. This is more than a few Corporate Psychopaths. This is endemic behaviour that is characteristic of the institutions of corporate capitalism, and the power relationship that is wage labour. Until these are addressed this will continue.

[@shubhisharma4261]

Thank you. You have helped me. I agree the closure and PTSD still haunts me to this day.

[@rosannalantigua5769]

This made me cry 😢

[@khalidalzayani7072]

IMO this issue is so serious. I was a victim of this myself.

[@cynthiafeick]

Classic example: Nurse bullying (beginning with students in nursing school). Horrific abuse and definitely ignored, i.e., sanctioned/ condoned by nursing/ healthcare management and human resources. Interesting how inhumane humans are.

[@commonsenselucy5697]

Cynthia Feick.......AGREED. A nurse for years who was (what I thought) my "friend," has NOW put a target on my back. I guess she is running out of people to HATE ON. And, it's SO IRONIC to me because I have done NOTHING, but LOVE HER, AND LOOK UP TO HER, AND NOW SHE IS ATTACKING ME. SAD INDEED........😢

[@cacatr4495]

It's irrational.

[@christineclegg-delamare2694]

well done ,sad but beautiful talk .

[@ApotropaicV]

My sister just sent this. I’m packing to move and came across an old e-mail exchange with my boss. It horrified me because I always assumed that I exaggerated it. No. It was that bad. Humiliating. But I thought I was alone and that the failure was mine. Thank you for exposing this truth.

[@pedinurse1]

Yes management sees it as a strength. They are not insecure, they are overconfident of their behavior because it has worked since childhood.

[@newfielad47]

Thank you so much this helped but I am still dealing with a bully at work who has achieved my being the villan and not the victim. Sometimes I wonder about things you have mentioned and I see why they do.

[@meagantompkins2653]

I am being bullied by my rental agency, they are (I believe) harassing me into moving out. They poisoned my dog, I get notices all the time of fabricated lease violations that I have made. They have made me into the villian and gone so far as to say if I complain about the bully once more, they will evict me. She lives below me, creates noise all day and often far into the night, when I would like to be asleep. I am a nervous wreck, have PTSD symptoms, and sometimes don't leave my apartment for weeks. I will leave this wretched place as soon as I can. When I think of complaining to her boss, I am reminded of an old Swedish saying I once heard: "A fish rots from the head down."

[@chokkan7]

One of the comments made raises a major point here; in our worthy pursuit of making more opportunity available to more people, several protected classes have been created, and all too often, these become safe refuges from which unscrupulous thugs can lash out at accomplished, decent employees with impunity, often with support from management, sometimes unwittingly, but often in a collusive fashion. While it's understandable that the pendulum could have been expected to swing too far in the other direction, it's well past time that management not only recognized the problem, but took remedial action. The fact that they often decline to do so tells me that to some extent, they support this agenda...that is why there is so much emphasis on enforcing silent compliance...

[@j.a.fligor97]

Wow. you have presented deep and definitive insight. more than anything in all probability accurate.

[@tutsecret499]

I am victim too for the last 17 years. It so bad that I was begging the HR to put a camera over the mobbing group to see how bad they were to me. And HR refused to put a hidden camera. When HR wants to watch employee doing misconduct they watch them, but when HR doesn't want, they don't do it. If they put a camera there, they would have to fire many people. I am being mobbed by about 10 or more people.

[@lssantore]

Hello, I use to work for a community bank in NJ for almost 12 years. During that time I was promoted to a Head Teller position. Everything started off very nicely however as I got to know my branch manager I realize that they had no interest in helping me grow in my position nor assist me in my pursuit to make a career. I was constantly bullied, reprimanded and accused of things that I either did not say nor do it. From that point I did approach human resources and I asked to step down as a head teller. From that point it seemed that the company was targeting me to push me out. Watching your speech lecture it really touched very close to home because I know how it feels to feel like there’s no way out and that you’re trapped. In my final years at the company I was fortunate enough to find a new employment which I’m currently at now and much happier. I’m given the opportunity to progress and grow. Not all jobs are perfect there are some things I wish that were better at my current employment however I do feel I have the capability and liberty to either stay and progress or move on to something better without feeling hopeless. I think this lecture is a very big wake up call to all of the companies throughout the country and world, that it’s important that employers treat employees fairly. It’s a shame that bullying and promoting hostile environments are condoned and rewarded. I witnessed this throughout the time of my previous employment at the community bank that I worked for. To anyone that’s experiencing any bullying at their current job there’s always a way out and there’s always help available. Talk to someone, bring it to the surface and be vocal. You have the right to be heard.

[@marycatherineann5624]

My boss is afraid of our office bully so nothing is done. I've worked at this place for over 20 years and my health has declined. I defiantly have PTSD. I see a therapist that is trying to help me but so much damage has been done.

[@DoubleRainbows-fp6ih]

I have C-PTSD too. Once the fog clears from counselling and deep work; in my case do we manage to start putting boundaries in place.

[@blackbecky2283]

Mary Catherine Ann Please leave this job if you haven’t already.

[@DerAua]

Leave ASAP.

[@ginaheaton2203]

Der Aua Easier said than done.

[@meloneymoore5102]

workplace bullying, harassment, organized gangstalking happened to me in the workplace by management and retaliation followed me outside the workplace, bad health PTSD, I lost everything including my place to live. It has continued and even blocked me from getting and maintaining employment. HR, law enforcement, and contacted a law firm. Guess what, no one would help me. I have been documenting it on my KZbin channel. It continues to happen to me accompanied with constant illegal surveillance of me even while I presently stay at a homeless shelter in Denver Colorado. My life and public reputation was stolen from me and my physical health.

[@kmcq692]

Cluster B in the C-Suite. Truly the era’s challenge.

[@drakekay6577]

I Applaud you, Andrew Faas!

[@mindandbodyhealing50]

Workplace =horror stories everyday...I am good now at home, no more work...in my life!!! Never more work!!! Your freedom and your health is more important than your work, at which you might lost everything...!!!!

[@marmadukescarlet7791]

Yes! I came to the same conclusion. I’ll never take another job. The majority of workplaces condone and even encourage it. I’ve been targeted because I happen to be a bit out of the ordinary. I’ve found ways to get by without having a “job” and hope to start my own business one day soon.

[@samantha6670]

​@@marmadukescarlet7791 that's the way. Same for me.

[@radwulfeboraci7504]

Third one of these on this topic I've watched and all the same. A detailed description of the bully, what makes them tick, the damage to the corporation, the emotional trauma of the victim's and validation that it's just not right. BUT not one despite the titles actually gives you hands-on, one on one interpersonal defense tactics.

[@tea-chip-cookies]

I was a student nurse in 2012 and I am still traumatised from all the bullying. I finished 1st year and never completed the rest of the course.

[@hunterandhollysstbernardco9365]

superb thank you amazing information very helpful

[@BeginnerDiva]

I will fight for Helen’s memory. Workplace bullying must stop now. We deserve to be treated with dignity and respect too.

[@999timepass]

Fighting back too. The employer that pushed me to the brink was a FTSE company with 2000 stores in UK. Shut down few years ago.

[@jimmyharwood6279]

I love my job but got a monster under my bed , that's what I feel like , my family now sees it and know something is happening to me that I've never been thru , I have a sister that just got her masters degree at Kentucky University in social works and is now a social worker in Hendersonville TN. And she now knows what I'm going thru at work , she knows I'm one in a million employees at work one with a work ethic like no other , and she know how giving and caring I am of others , but she has been helping me , trying to get laws to change in the United States because in every country there are laws in place now everywhere but here!

[@Myls50]

My husband comes back home everyday and described to me on his working condition at work. It is exactly the same as what has been described here. The one she bully has her contract renewed despit what she had done now is even more enpowered and making lots lots of people miserable at work. Again and again people has complained, people has left , people has gone sick and back and sick again and new entieusastic new worker soon got disallutioned of the project . This one she bully so being supported by the head! Is just crazy! Our family tugged along with my husband for his job and the time we had been here, it was difficult for all of us as a family, while his constand stand to his own integrity, we felt not only helpless but also we had to witness a person in pain day in and day out. We were a family in name. Our marriage was also in trouble due to his work this lead to confusion amongst our children and it hurt them too. Children then left after school and we were left just with each other. I since became a therapist and this has help us to stay together. But I do dread to think what our children must have gone through and how much impact this human unkindness might have affected them. I agree totally that bullying is being supported by management. sooooo true. There are lots of unhappy people around but bullies are the most unhappiest ones I have ever seen.

[@adeolaoke4165]

My story...my husband died suddenly at 45.l had advised him to quit but he couldn't cope without the job was seeking out an exit strategy

[@Myls50]

hello Adeola, I am very sorry to hear about your loss. It must have been terrible for you.

[@kimkeller8126]

Yes, this is me !!!! I have been with my company for 32 years, and out of those 32 years I have been bullied 26 of those years!!!! I am so sick of it!!! Did everyone know that “micro managing” is also a form of bullying? I hate going to that place EVERY 🤬 day. I have seen people report this person many times and EVERY-TIME, the person who is the bully gets to stay, while the person who is being bullied has to leave. It is hard to get a job that is going to start me at the pay I get now and I’m getting older, so who is going to hire someone who is close to retirement?

[@smoothiecutie2277]

Hi. Just checking in. Are you ok???

[@drakekay6577]

2:29 Perfection is an abusive con game, NO ONE can achieve perfection there for NO ONE should be neglected with the insistence that "Since you're not perfect(attendance, vanity, or otherwise) You do not deserve anything.

[@d1v1n3ju21ice]

Thank you Mr. Andrew Fass 🙏🏻

[@Syed.S.A]

Very crude reality explained in very good manner. I am going through the same scenario and fighting the bully back. This talk was very helpful.

[@numberstimes]

"You clocked in five minutes early, how dare you"! "Go in there, don't go in there. How dare you defy me and not go in there to do your job". These are the games they play. I always go beyond my duties to serve customers - regardless of how bad bullies behave. They write one sided lies about me so I can sue for slander. I contacted Corp and complained. There is a record now about the bullies behavior. I am a senior and know how to handle this. God is my pilot, so no worries, just forgiveness.

[@ExploreEmbraceExpress]

Thank you for being the catalyst to this important conversation.

[@ExploreEmbraceExpress]

Also today I started my first video in a two week series on this topic. I have four people lined up to interview as well. I'm really hoping the ripple effect will make a change that lasts long after I'm gone. ❤

[@bruceb7464]

I have been quite lucky in my working life in that I have only ever struck one person that I would call a bully. I observed him target a number of people in the office that I worked with relentless bullying. I was lucky in that the bully did not target me - often. It is the biggest regret of my working life that I did not stand beside the victims and call the bully out and then support the victims and go with them to senior management or to HR to support their side of the story, to bear witness to the crime. There were reasons I didn't - I was a temp and could have lost my job very easily or I could have become a target of the bully - but on reflection the reasons were insufficient when compared to the victim's situation. I swore that I would not repeat the same mistake if I ever came across the same situation in a future job.

[@dontbelongherefromanother]

It's fear that prevents onlookers from speaking up. They don't want to be targeted by the bully. Don't feel bad because you were in a vulnerable position and had you spoken up, they would have terminated your employment. Also, you didn't have any rights to grievances like full-time employees, and they could have terminated your employment without cause as a temp worker. Some employers choose to hire temps because it provides a loophole for them to not pay benefits and full pay, and temp workers have limited rights.

[@christinahagglund8510]

Save life with stop bullying at work! A LAW against "Mental Abuse" 2023!!!

[@rhondabaldwin7529]

Andrew Faas, thank you for sharing "my story" After 38 years of civil service the bully has managed to convince senior management I'm worthless and I admit my confidence has been shaken...

[@PropertyVlogsUK]

Rhonda Baldwin you need to leave x

[@TheHeartOne]

Rhonda Baldwin, your 38 years of civil service needs to be rewarded! I applaud you and urge you to file a lawsuit! Don't allow them to "win!" Blessings!

[@rhondabaldwin7529]

Thank you for your support. Law suit filed!

[@lemostjoyousrenegade]

@@rhondabaldwin7529 YES!!! Much Love to you, Rhonda. Stay strong! XOX!

[@redcherry7485]

In Singapore bullying and Psychopath is at NTUC supermarket. They have a facebook where customers who are not happy with staff upload their photos..... These customers are cowards and encouraged by organisation. 🐕. They should be charged with slandering. 💰💰💰And the staff be compensated.

[@PersonWConscience]

What he said is right on the money.

[@pennykent5687]

I wonder if most of these bullies are psychopaths, and the like. These .,.. people like to get into power positions of authority and once they are in that vantage point they become the great one. Someone no one questions. So they are capable of great harm. especially when they aline their forces against you. My line of thinking is that they pick out their target and go after them. They don't stop till they cause great harm, and they just continue to move on to the next victim until hopefully SOMEONE, SOME HOW stops them.

[@thedemonfromhell3177]

Yes it is I am going threw this

[@jmk2530]

How do we end this problem? What group can I join to support ending workplace bullying? This has to end. No one should be treated like this anywhere, even their place of work. A few months ago, after reporting a toxic workplace to HR, i was let go due to “Workplace reduction”- I am doing what I can to fight it, but this is wrong. It is wrong that there is no recourse for the person who is bullied. I went through everything mentioned in this video. How can we end this??

[@YooYo963]

ThankYou...lnformative presentation

[@drakekay6577]

The BULLY NEVER identifies your inadequacies with the healthy intention of helping you, they target your strengths to diminish you!!!!!

[@ashleygriggs5747]

Yes

[@calvinlong1265]

The two situations I've ran into is either, management (including HR) in collusion with the bully, or management being afraid of them.

[@gailsmiley6038]

Thank you!

[@alicewargacki3543]

14 years at the post Office was a nightmare. I couldn't take it emotionally or physically anymore.

[@bonnie1097]

Explained exactly! Well done!!!

[@chriscunningham8807]

What a powerful talk.

[@girlygirl9766]

This has been going on forever and it needs to stop. I'm dealing with one right now. I think the bullies like to pick on the sensitve ones. I'm not letting her see me cry any more. I'm trying to be strong and today I told her if you don't like the way I do things then fire me... Be strong and try to look for a job as quick as possible. Even though it's not fair that you should leave.

[@naeru5810]

abusive power of bullying systemic OLDER age quit or firing for cause. 80 % problem is HR.

[@CDavis-re8di]

If you think HR is not experiencing bully themselves by management that uses them as a sheild and scapegoat, you are unaware.

[@caseyjoe232]

Bullying is very real in the workplace being targeted for reporting then the retaliation starts who can you go to when Hr knows about it and your new boss jumps on the bandwagon it's happening right now to me at work it doesn't matter if you separate yourself away from people some kind of way they still come for you and yesssssss I too felt PTSD of the workplace my Dr. Put me on meds yet it still continues at one of the Biggest Hospitals

[@smoothiecutie2277]

Same here. In the bully narcissists’ mind it’s “How dare YOU the employee complain about my mistreatment if you”. Sickos

[@adeolaoke4165]

Thank you for this.

[@2fast65]

I have worked for the same place for 16 years and I have delt with it the whole time it is getting bad enough my co workers see it I am not shure what to do about it I am out of vacation and sick time because of it I cant stand to go to work any more and my foreman sees it and will not back me up I am not shure what to do here.

[@PersonWConscience]

File with EEO (just to show that you tri to get help within) - write details - and send a copy it it to EEOC (you will get a respone) and Internal Affairs (just to show uou follow protocols as they wont do anything)

[@violetl.4615]

+PersonWConscience what's EEO and EEOC?

[@chrissolon5165]

@Pax - The EEO or EEOC in the U.S. is the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. The problem, is that the EEOC does not address or handle complaints regarding bullying or harassment if it does not affect the protected classes Title VII, which are harassment based on gender, age, religion, race or national origin.

[@mariclarosorio41]

+Chrissolon I hear yah. It's hard to prove discrimination based on these factors...it's okay. Just file. Then when the bully found out that you filed they will start retaliating. Then you can eventually file a case against reprisal.

[@yasminhabibti721]

You need to get out.

[@richardliu746]

Wow , I’m experiencing this right now, I joined the company 15 years ago , they set up the trap and force me to resign, I’m seeing the clinic psychologist now, I’m loosing my sleep and my health is getting worse every day