The Business of Painting. How to market and writing painting bids.

How to take your painting business to the next level. Marketing, branding, bidding, invoicing and more with The Idaho Painter. My bid package: t.ly/JNQ0
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[@jasonb5898]

The information you provide based on your years of experience are much appreciated. You really have one of the most informative channels I have ever come across.

[@lexandersantana8089]

Let’s say you are a single person painting crew, you are the business owner and the only painter. A lot of solo painters screw themselves by selling their work almost for free. Most painters could double their prices and stay just as busy. You’d HAVE to charge the customer $50/h to run the business at a minimum(depending on location), that gives you the ability to pay yourself, the only painter, anywhere from 15-25/h The rest of the money goes to running the business/profit I budget 4 hours to paint the walls in a medium sized bedroom, that means I have to charge $200 per bedroom, add trim and that’s an extra $100-150, add ceiling and it’s an extra 100. Ad a door and that’s $50 a door. Now with a 2 person crew that allows you to predict how much it’s going to cost in labor to finish a job/how long it will take. Charging 400 to paint a room would give us 8 hours to paint that wall, that may seem like a long time but you have to include set up time/drive time/clean up, and if it’s a 2 person crew then you’ll be done in 4 hours and should be able to paint 2 rooms in a day. If you finish faster then predicted then you just copped a bonus, and that’s how you incentivize fast workers Something to consider is sales/closing rates, the more employees you have the more sales you want to close, but if you are solo then you can close 20% and be fine. That allows you to charge a bunch. Labor should be 40-50% of the total price a painter tells a customer, paint should be 15% unless it’s a fence.

[@lexandersantana8089]

A single solo painter should make 100k per year, that’s a little over 2k per week. Or $400 a day, that’s an 8 hour day at $50/h. For every employee you hire expect your income to increase about 16k per painter after overhead/taxes. But you must have your pricing down before hiring someone. Some people will say “I got a guy that will paint this room for $100” well frankly, that’s an illegitimate business that’s doomed for failure and probably won’t be around for 10 more years. Does he offer a warranty? $100 per room is long gone! We want to work for people who understand the value that we painters can bring.

[@Idahopainter]

Interesting

[@colestaples2010]

@@Idahopainter yeah nobody understands you can’t charge such a small amount and succeed. Then customers start to think that’s the going rate and it goes south for all of us

[@theartofdustlessmediablasting]

@@colestaples2010 I would tend to agree, understanding Chris has been in business for a long time and has many avenues of revenue it all helps his bottom line. The estimating equation seems to have a lot of secrets for everyone and they all seem to be different.

[@ensurepaintingplusllc]

Great compilation video, lots of hidden gems sprinkled through out… For the “Life Time Warranty” regarding the yearly questions/checkboxes this would be a great tool to offer our clients and worth the purchase. Put it in the store👍🏻 Many Thanks

[@alfonsorivera7449]

Gracias por tomarte el tiempo en hecer este video. Excellent job.

[@arielamaya9969]

Yo dude! Been watching for a long time on insta .. now watching it on youtube.. You are a major inspiration.. I've been struggling, but am devoted painter .. love the positive attitude.. keep on keeping on 🎨 🖌

[@Idahopainter]

I appreciate that!

[@dannymartin5129]

Thank you so much for all these videos, i’ve been wanting to work for myself for two decades but never made the leap till now

[@Idahopainter]

Best of luck!

[@patriciabuenrostro7268]

I SUST SUBSCRIBED,NEW TO THE BIZZ GREAT TIPS THANK YOU FROM CALI

[@garykintzler4273]

Thank you for all of the information.

[@Idahopainter]

Our pleasure!

[@ChrizoPrime]

Great insights for pro painters and for those starting out!

[@Idahopainter]

Glad you think so!

[@ashleymlagan4189]

@@Idahopainter do you bid interior jobs by the square foot or?

[@nenaddzananovic6624]

@@Idahopainter hi there greetings from Australia. True professional. I em painter as well .same professional approach as well as your self .keep up good work

[@elonmusk7442]

I like the videos allot can you do a detailed video on how to care for sprayers cleaning and set up maybe a couple different kinds of sprayers

[@DayStarQuality]

Thanks for the good instruction, clear concise! Do you hire help for your channel...video filming editing? Thanks again!

[@Albert-fe8jx]

Overspray & oil based interesting points at 49:00. I wondered how you actually calculated your base amount. Wondered about liability coverage or how you cover in contracts (if you use them). You covered so many areas: interior, exterior, epoxy flooring. Enjoyed the workshop portions. John 3:3 is a great verse. It would be great to have it on your company t-shirt. Thank you Mr. (and Mrs.) Berry.

[@lexandersantana8089]

His bid packages is extensive and includes a contract that references the bid pckage.

[@Idahopainter]

Thank you!

[@ashleymlagan4189]

What point in time in this video does he talk about interior estimating?

[@beau1406]

I thought I was the only one with some arms and some chest out there LOL good s*** man thank you

[@tikabella21]

Hi can’t you just roll out an oil based paint fence no spray just brush or roller? (just curious)

[@sweett8244]

Very professional thank you

[@Idahopainter]

Thanks for watching!

[@sweett8244]

@@Idahopainter Thank You

[@tikabella21]

Hi can’t you just roll out the fence on an oil based spray fence instead of spraying ( learning and curious)

[@jonathanmiranda412]

Do you have any videos of new Residental homes or duplexes? I'm painting walls doors and trim white, only any tips how to do it quickly and I'm a one man crew, I need help!

[@johnyork5138]

Chris, I like you and your company, looks good, only one thing, 20 some pages on the estate sheet, seems a little excessive to me.

[@beau1406]

Good shit bro

[@dalebaker959]

Im 54, semi-retired. means can't retire yet :) hope to start my own business soon. have many years of experience, only doing interiors, for my own homes. Just wondering if it's possible to be profitable doing only interior projects, not confident doing exterior. It will be just me, not going to scale up and start hiring (yet).

[@DUDDITTS2004]

Question I'm a painter near the South Seattle area and have come across a cabinet job that I would like to fit out. My question: are the prices of the cabinet faces and sides included in the door prices? Or do I charge those separately?

[@chancenebeker4481]

if any of your are watching this in california and have any questions about getting licensed im here to help

[@paulsmith1348]

Hey Chris thanks for the info. Does the $ 1.65 a square foot include materials? Thanks

[@Idahopainter]

Yes it does

[@carloscastro8400]

@@Idahopainter so on a 2,200 sqft at $1.65 ($3,630) house how much would you be spending on materials? paint, masking supplies, caulking etc. what would be the expenses and profit? roughly how much time would it take too?

[@marcelguarachi]

where can I find the tape holder you mentioned?

[@DAMON409]

Any paint shop.

[@jocelyncurtis8826]

Hi Chris, thank you for your videos! I am trying to bid new construction interior drywall in Montana. Do you have a base price for new drywall? About an hour drive 1 way. Thanks in advance ;)

[@jocelyncurtis8826]

Also, does that base price include material? Drywall is hand textured, do I need to backfill textured walls?

[@jocelyncurtis8826]

Backroll

[@SethCorbinMusic]

The best advice for you is to drop that job, not worth it. I don’t like to drive more than 30 minutes

[@TheMarathonomahos]

You do well mate. I work exactly the same way. I enjoy your videos. I disagree on some of your techniques, but in the main, we are pretty much the same. Maybe the only difference is I still make my own paint which costs around NZ$8 a litre to make. I've done this for 40 years, and I love what I do, and I love watching painters who are passionate about what they do. Good on you.

[@Idahopainter]

Thanks for sharing

[@DAMON409]

How do you make paint?

[@leer.9641]

Not sure I 100% understand. You said you bid ‘standard’ exterior at $1.65/sf. So a 2000sf house’s base bid is only $3,300? That’s supposed to include materials?

[@Idahopainter]

Yep

[@leer.9641]

@@Idahopainter Maybe it’s the geographical location? I’m in Atlanta. I’ve restricted my painting to residential re-paints, but I’m considering offering exterior painting. I’m not crazy about heights, but not paralyzed by them, either. Painters here are getting $3/sf for exteriors, and they aren’t doing nearly as high quality a job as you are. My neighbor just paid $4,500 for a 1500sf house and at least 30% of it is brick that didn’t get painted. They said they went with the low bid. The painters did a middling job. It’s a ranch house as well. Can’t believe I didn’t bid/get that job.

[@jasonb5898]

If you watched, he did say keep your bids in line with your geographical location. Makes sense.

[@renannascimento2423]

👍🏽

[@Idahopainter]

😀

[@ventures9560]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/raOvqHuraNCIqMU Chris, What do you do about various features of the landscaping when it comes to bidding fences and houses? For example, what about when there is a hill that covers part of a fence (half way up maybe) or a house because of the way the ground is where the structure meets the ground? Or what about various landscaping materials (bark, rocks, etc) and whether they cover parts of what should be painted? How do you address the issue with the customer? Are there options they customer can be given (such as not painting that part that is covered)? And what about pricing as well? And how do you respond when a potential customer asks you how you estimate a job? Do you start going into details explaining it to them or is there some better way to handle it? Are there any potential consequences for going into the details? And what about the difference between estimates and bids? Do you work (through the entire job) based on estimate only? Do you start with estimate then move to bid? Why? Why not? And what about changes to the scope of work (whether unforeseen or not)? How can that be handled? And should costs in a proposal be broken down or just a single flat price given? If so then how to break it down? How granular to break it down? What basis for the break down (eg: by category? by stage? by.. ?).. Why? Why not?

[@mannysilva120]

Damn Chris you be taxing people lmao

[@Brynden-Rivers]

Most of the houses i paint are 100-150 years old😂.

[@Idahopainter]

OL

[@the1bryanbowerman]

#educate #empower #equip

[@colestaples2010]

Just tell people how much your company is making hourly

[@jimeneazy5999]

Could you get your wife on to explain the cold hard numbers?

[@TheMotivationFallacy]

2500 Sq ft, 1.65...4125? To paint a house? Seems cheap.

[@jh4742]

That’s his base price as he explained. Color change, multiple colors, type of material are all going to play a factor in final price

[@TheMotivationFallacy]

@jh4742 still cheap.

[@Idahopainter]

How old is this video?

[@josephedgar7134]

Xxddèe

[@DarrenSeymour]

You are way too cheap on your pricing how do You make money ?

[@Idahopainter]

Simple

[@nancytorres7899]

Do you mind sharing what your price per sq ft is today for interior and exterior?