The Canon R5 MK2 - It's a great update but is it better than the R5C?

[@Joebloggs4817]

I’ll probably keep my R5 and spend the money on some new glass. To keep things in perspective, the jump from 5d4 to R5 was a different planet. To R5 II though as someone who takes photos as a hobby and does a little video… the R5 is still fantastic. Apart from long exposures, mine is riddled with hot spots. I was actually thinking of complimenting my R5 with a Panasonic GH7 because it opens up a world of cheaper lenses. And when you’re not making money or claiming VAT, money matters.

[@DreamReleases]

You waited until the R5II was released to get $4200 worth of new glass? Really? Why even post that?

[@eyeidea]

All the little things add up! Thank you Hugh, real world and real use overview.

[@Veltrida]

thank you for this, good god, no one on youtube has even spoken about the video on the r5 in depth

[@Malick333]

Years ago I had an R5 and then it overheated on a shoot. It wasn’t good. Got the R5C and filmed in scorching heat for hours with no hiccups. Ever since, I’ll sacrifice image quality or dynamic range or other non essentials for reliability. But I get others aren’t in the same situation as me. 😉

[@HuFilms]

And you're not really sacrificing image quality either. Maybe in certain high DR situations but in a lot of normal use, the R5C's DR is sufficient.

[@Malick333]

@@HuFilms exactly. If I can’t tell a good story well, no viewer cares about my DR. 🤣

[@robertm3951]

I will be getting the R5 II and C400. I currently have both an R5 and R5 C.

[@HuFilms]

You sound like me! 😂

[@fintanmctiernan8284]

Hi Hugh, I enjoyed watching that video. Like you, I have the R5 and I have ordered the R5II. For me, there are serious improvements in a lot of areas when it is compared to the R5, which is still and will continue to be a great camera. I recall watching your video in relation to the RF 200-800 and as far as I can recall, you cancelled your order. I have one and it is an outstanding lens for wildlife photography and videography. I traded the RF 100-500 against it and I have no regrets. I use the RF 1.4 extender with it at times and it works really well. I have it since April and even of these dull cloudy days I have no difficulty shooting images at 1600 iso or even 3200 iso without any issue. I thinks it is a fantastic lens. It took a bit of getting used to in the beginning. Regards and thanks for the video.

[@teejaysimon]

As someone who has the R3, bought it when it first came out, I'm getting the R5MKII. It does all the things I love about my R3, but it's in the smaller body which is preferred on a gimbal, plus it has better video than the R3. The only concern is battery life - the larger battery of the R3 is fantastic and I love how I can easily get through a day with just one battery. The tradeoff of the smaller body and lighter weight is worth the tradeoff of battery life.

[@HuFilms]

I wonder if it'll be better than the R3, honestly.

[@teejaysimon]

@@HuFilms my R5MKII arrives tomorrow. Planning to use it this weekend for some photo and video. I'll try and remember to follow up with some initial feedback vs. the R3.

[@stillinmymomsbasement]

@@teejaysimon how does the video compare???

[@sammurphy3835]

Thank you, Irish Jurgen Klopp 👍

[@HuFilms]

He's a handsome man, I'll take that as a compliment!

[@TheDominicballard96]

I will be getting one when it comes out. This will be my first mirrorless camera.

[@HuFilms]

Wow, what an entrance into the mirrorless world!

[@TheDominicballard96]

True. But I've used them all and this seems like the best of each one.

[@DavidWaldrip]

Same for me! Upgrade from Canon 90D DSLR. Let’s get it 📸

[@TheDominicballard96]

@@DavidWaldrip I've been shooting on that old 5DSR for so long.

[@DavidWaldrip]

@@TheDominicballard96We are the upgrade bros! First time mirrorless camera. Will you be shooting more pics or video? I’ll be doing mostly video. I will however challenge myself to take more and better photos with this new camera! 📸

[@i.norman]

Pre-ordered the R5 MkII today. Anticipate that the AF and its low light capabilities will be a great improvement over the previous version, though it's a little pricey

[@HuFilms]

@@i.norman nice one! It’ll focus amazingly for sure. Can’t wait to try it!

[@MocFilmmaker]

Love that you can make content about a camera without that camera in hand. Awesome !

[@HuFilms]

@@MocFilmmaker I guess you don’t watch ordinary filmmaker or any of the ‘big’ KZbinrs talking about new cams then?

[@MocFilmmaker]

@@HuFilms Nope I dont . How’s it?

[@DreamReleases]

@@HuFilms They are pretty redundant now that the cameras are released, and pretty much say things that don't make much sense having never touched the cameras. Pure speculations

[@HuFilms]

@@DreamReleases I’ve used an R5 for 4 years and an R5C for 2 years as my main cameras. I’ve also had the EOS R before that for 2 years and over the previous 5 years had various Canon DSLR’s. I’ve ordered the new R5MK2 and if I feel like making a video about it, I will. Im actually going to make another video before I get it, maybe more. So it could be a good time for you to exit the building.

[@kurtdewittphoto]

9:32.- That's a common occurrence working with dogs in my office. Anytime I'm holding a memory card, they think its food lol.

[@HuFilms]

😂

[@EliasLopez]

I’ll order until I know for sure the 4K 60 is not line skipped, that’s what I use the most on my R6 on my wedding shooting, I’m very excited about C-Log 2 and upgraded AF performance, with 4K 60 over sampled this camera will be a beast!!!

[@infinityfilms2517]

It is line skipped.

[@HuFilms]

120 I think would be great for weddings too. The RAW 120 in S16 mode on the R5C looks really cool. It's a 3k image. If you don't have an R5C, maybe look into it as an option also.

[@EliasLopez]

@@HuFilms I’ve done 120 with the a7s3 and the R5 both rented for different projects and in my opinion it doesn’t work for me is too slow, I think 60 is the sweet spot for what I do, the continuity feels much smoother and engaging or I don’t know how to explain it you know, I just hate Sony colors, and I love the 4K 60 better on the R6 compared to the R5s, is much sharper and better in low light performance, I might have wait and try it out once it comes out, but for the damn 4,500 price tag with taxes, we shouldn’t expect promises in firmware updates,

[@iliaskapatos]

If you want 8K-RAW 60fps, then the R5MKII is not the way to go. It overheats in this mode after 18 minutes, and after 24 minutes with the ventilated BG. For everything else, I would prefer the R5 MKII, but because I like 8K-RAW 60fps, I think I'll skip the MKII, and keep my R5C.

[@StarLightDotPhotos]

Source?

[@HuFilms]

So, according to this, the €820 grip with the cooling fan, only gives you an extra 4 minutes? I would only ever record short snippets of 8k raw in 60 anyway. I guess we'll know in due course.

[@ChristianChavez3]

Can the Canon R5C film 4K-Raw?

[@iliaskapatos]

@@ChristianChavez3 it can shoot 4K RAW 60fps by using an 35mm part of the sensor and it can also shoot around 2.8k RAW when using 16mm from the sensor and this in 120fps.

[@ChristianChavez3]

@@iliaskapatos I appreciate the quick reply. Well since it can do that I think I’ll go ahead and purchase the R5C instead of the R5 MK II. I’m not really to worried about the IBIS. I like using a gimbal in general so that should be fine to me.

[@wadesweeney2200]

Hugh, I thought the r5c does film audio in 4k120 in a separate file right? By the way love the color what are you using for a lut?

[@justinuriahphoto]

LOL, the Arnold and Billy voice over at 10:00. Perfect!

[@HuFilms]

Ha ha, I'm gonna try this one again!

[@DreamReleases]

Eventually the R5C will become history and retired. It was Canon's answer to the overheating. Its became a mere place holder while Canon worked on the R5II and improve it with a new stacked sensor. Makes no sense for Canon to use resources to manufacture another R5C. Canon has paired the R5II video menu system to the their C400 series cameras. I suspect there will be time code via HDMI since they chose for the full size HDMI vs a dedicated time code port.

[@GabrielScindian]

More usable dynamic range than the R5c. If you want to replace the R5C wait until 2025 for the R5C II.

[@HuFilms]

Yes, but I need to replace the R5 first!

[@GabrielScindian]

@@HuFilms I am replacing my R5 with the MKII due to my R5 being used as a toy gun when the nephews came by the house when I was out on a shoot using my C70 last year. Apparently it was dropped or thrown down the stairs with my 85 1.2 attached

[@pickleydoo]

Do we think an R5 C Mark II is coming?

[@HuFilms]

@@pickleydoo It's unlikely the R5C would have sold as much as the R5, I would imagine. I'm not sure if Canon have a plan to update it but they really should. At best it'd be next year. They wouldn't have to do much, all they really need is to put the new sensor into it and maybe include the c-log. But when the R5 2 is now more capable, the lines are crossing a bit, so it's pointless having a camera that's almost similar. They should maybe make it bigger, with a larger fold out screen and more capable battery solution.

[@wildpatagoniafilms16]

I don't think it will be an R5c 2... 🤔

[@TimLaytonDarkroomDiary]

I am most interested in wildlife video work. It would be good to hear your thoughts about comparing the R5C to R5 II for this use case.

[@HuFilms]

@@TimLaytonDarkroomDiary for wildlife, the R5C can be good as it’ll let you shoot 120fps Raw in 3k and it looks fab. Also, you have good high frame rate options which might be better quality than the mk2 frame rates. We don’t know yet. If you want to do photos and video then the R5 will be better as you can record video in photo mode but the switchover in the r5c takes ages.

[@HuFilms]

@@TimLaytonDarkroomDiary focus will be better in the r5 and mk 2 but manual focus is nice with the r5c

[@szilagyipeter6698]

5:15 is pure class there.

[@HuFilms]

I hope you aren't being sarcastic!

[@agelesspics4556]

Thanks for this video. I’m still using my EOS R 😅. However, I was looking into the R5C as I’m now more into video than photos. The two downsides for me on 5C was low light and the HDMI oh and the battery 🪫 😫. So now I’m really considering R5ii, R5C or stay with my R until R5C ii arrives while I presume Canon will fix those issues. Video mode for specific things I use Ninja V when recording. Certainly looking forward to real world tests and not canon sponsored folks reading off a script. 😅

[@HuFilms]

Honestly, you're gonna love both coming from the Eos R, it's a giant step up. The 5C is gonna be a lot cheaper than the new R5 and it included the built in fan. Great cam.

[@agelesspics4556]

@@HuFilms Yep, it's just figuring out which one to choose. 😅

[@BrucePhung]

R5C here I come over R5 ii. Cheaper and better in video. In Photo mode, R5C AF is good enough for me.

[@HuFilms]

R5C is the same really as an R5 in photo mode other than the IBIS. The video capabilities of it are very good. I think it won't be beaten by the R5MK2 in anything other than dynamic range.

[@DreamReleases]

@@HuFilms Actually a stacked sensor will improve performance in all modes by about 20% over a regular CMOS sensor. The ceiling for the R5II is much higher than the R5. It has an accelerator component which the R5 does not. The processing speed is simply on another level that the R5 will never be able to achieve.

[@halimmohamad8255]

I'm so obses with your visual framing. It's like my eyes are stick to it.

[@HuFilms]

@@halimmohamad8255 thanks! Glad you like it.

[@ElMacho0423]

Did I just watch you vlog on the R5C? Which lens did you use?

[@HuFilms]

@@ElMacho0423 Er yeah… the 24-70 2.8 RF.

[@Sothishappened1001]

I just got the R5C. What setting did you shoot this in? Also did you use a lut?

[@HuFilms]

@@Sothishappened1001 nice one. 4K HEVC 10 bit 422. 24fps mostly, then maybe 72 or 120 fps 4K for b roll. Graded using a canon log colour transform lut in Resolve.

[@Sothishappened1001]

@@HuFilms Thank you!

[@typorosz]

Unfortuantely MII version doesn't feature IBIS High Resolution mode, so it is very limited as it doesn't use the multi-exposure IBIS function of the camera any more. Also, the former batter grip isn''t compatible with this camera (same size tough).

[@Mr.Zen_73]

The R5II is a great upgrade for the R5, but not the R5C. For video I don't think there's going to be a massive improvement and for all modes from 4k50p up the R5II is line-skipped and not downsampled like the R5C (except 120p). Looks like the only improvements over the R5C is autofocus and IBIS, but then you lose so much eg cinema OS, no overheating etc. And I wonder if they'll have the face only priority AF mode that the R5C has I rely on that all the time for my talking head video. I'm hoping there'll be an R5CII at some stage p.s 'get to the choppa'!

[@HuFilms]

Yeah, I agree, but some official sources are saying the higher frame rates ARE downsampled. Including the official Canon video on the CVP website, here in Europe which is the biggest outlet I think. Fingers crossed! Glad you liked the impression!

[@Mr.Zen_73]

@@HuFilms According to Josh Sattin on KZbin the 4k50p and above is all line-skipped. I tried to link the Canon pdf file here but for some reason it won't let me. I think CVP might have made an error here as the documentation Josh was referring to is an official Canon document

[@ItsBerg]

Subbed. Hue how do u grade your videos? Also what are your export settings?

[@Guillaume9]

Hello, finder is not bigger just look at the specs, the R1 is a lot bigger but not the R5II 76% FF sensor view is not the much still lower than everything on the market. the haousing is for sure bigger and confortable but just to accomodate ir sensors from the eye af, just say that so you don't find that it is actually the same image size in the viewfinder, so it is actually the same size as the R6 R6MKII R5 R5C R3. Hope the brightness increase is really a thing on the R5II

[@restlake]

always appreciate your R5C content! just curious, why don’t you consider the S&F mode + audio mode on the R5C the same thing as 4k120 with audio? it’s not ideal that it records to the SD slot for the audio but it works fine . also, I actually prefer it pre-slows down the footage (vs the 4k120 in the R5II shooting 4k120 as “realtime” 120 and requiring slowdown in post, from what I’ve seen) anyway, after almost two years with my R5C, it would take a lot to get me to upgrade to a new R5 camera. really hoping this new battery unlocks a bunch of power improvements for the R5C 🤞🏼🤞🏼

[@HuFilms]

Yeah, good point here. The pre-slowed footage is a nicer way to work, I agree. To be honest, i completely overlooked that SD audio feature you just mentioned.

[@restlake]

@@HuFilms my bad, was assuming you knew the audio option was there 😉 works pretty well! it is buried at the end of the shooting mode options though. man I love this camera

[@antmarobel2592]

I wonder if the new battery of Mark II improves R5C performance..

[@eccproductions]

I’m curious to see if it will have 16 stops of dynamic range

[@HuFilms]

@@eccproductions so am I!

[@RichAesthetic]

What is the value of you speculating about the overheating issue if you haven’t actually test the camera. What is the value of that? You are just spreading more cynicism and people may not actually be willing to try due to a misguided distrust? Peter McKinnon has recently put out a great video after ACTUALLY testing the camera in a hot attic and said that he did not run into overheating issues.

[@HuFilms]

@@RichAesthetic you’re sounding biased yourself. Go with Peters opinion then and forget about what I say.

[@matthewjames4268]

Predator is excellent

[@mrdamiansingh]

You could have used the right camera in the thumbnail lol epic

[@HuFilms]

Ha ha, I actually had a few images copied into the Photoshop file and I must have used the wrong one. Will fix it later, thanks!

[@mrdamiansingh]

@@HuFilms I’m just pulling your leg

[@rodrigodeantonibrito]

Awesome color!! Are you using Canon lut conversion as start point to color?👏👏👏

[@HuFilms]

Thanks a lot. Yeah, I'm getting nice results with colour on the R5C. Always use the col. conversion node and sometimes I'll drop the range a bit on a node before it, to make sure all the highs and lows are intact.

[@rodrigodeantonibrito]

Awesome! Thank you! The compositions in the forest area are also very cool! I'm afraid to sell my R3 and switch to the R5 Mark II because I shoot a lot of night street photography and don't know how good the R5 II is going to be compared to the R3.

[@davisone76]

@@HuFilmsso the R5C shoots in CLOG2?!??

[@robinmc123]

Love that predator skit 😅😅😅

[@HuFilms]

It is only my favourite movie!

[@amrtoukhy1915]

Good talk

[@kentcurrie7326]

Why are you holding that mic? It sounded just fine when you clipped it to your backpack strap.

[@HuFilms]

Thanks but lately a few times I felt it sounded richer when it was positioned like that. Yeah, it's probably fine on the strap, I don't think it matters hugely.

[@WhereToFind]

Prices were released incorrectly for grips. It’s like 399USD for fan/Ethernet so should be like 370euro

[@HuFilms]

Interesting. Something weird going on there. Lets' hope you're right.

[@MoisesBowe]

2:16 Because the one with the Fan does not have the vertical bottoms.

[@ManuelVisconti-m5e]

Get to the choppa!

[@HuFilms]

😂🚁💪🏻

[@genxtechguy]

The answer to the video title question is … No

[@HuFilms]

I kinda suggest that too in the video.

[@genxtechguy]

@@HuFilms yeah, I know … that was just my answer 😆. The R5 II isn’t enough for me to give up my R5C.

[@thedeliveryman2064]

The R5 mkii seems to be a nice evolution from the mki. But there is still a need for a R5C mkii with zero overheating.

[@HuFilms]

All Canon need to do is a few small things and we can all have an incredible hybrid cinema camera.

[@thedeliveryman2064]

@@HuFilms 💯👌🏻

[@NoLifeWithoutTime-d2u]

Hugh, Great that you explain by aural communication and not by physical comparison of output, which for YT viewing is pretty pointless. Excellent info delivery, thanks!

[@HuFilms]

Thanks a lot!

[@wilfri14]

Turkey frames per second 👀!? You mean 30

[@Kuliginvitalik]

Please tell me name of your bag

[@HuFilms]

@@Kuliginvitalik lowepro reporter style bag

[@wayneyang9733]

You need change job if you shoot 30 frames per second!

[@HuFilms]

In photo mode or video? I was on about photo mode.