The Card Magician: A Flavorful Melee Bard Build | D&D 5e

Today we're building a character all around the Cartomancer feat, mainly focusing on the flavor of a closeup Magician. This build utilizes the Cartomancer feat, the College of Swords Bard, and the Storm Sorcery Sorcerer to create a very fun and high octane Gish Bard.
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[@gabrielyzaiah7069]

If you add a level in warlock with the genie patron, you can pull yourself out of a hat, with the hat is your genie vessel.

[@jAfr0Thunder86]

😂😂😂 Infinity hat pulls, like Robin Williams Genie from Aladdin in the intro song.

[@mrjek01]

I had this character up to level 6 before the campaign fell apart. Harengon air genie patron named Harry O’Hare magician extraordinaire. Sprite for my familiar “lovely assistant” it was a very fun character. I hope I can replay him someday.

[@somerandomginger9938]

Cartomancer feels like a slightly different mizzium apparatus option for that feeling of "i can cast any spell " vibe later on. Honestly cant wait for more people tp really look into bomt character options. The backgrounds are insane

[@collinw9792]

They're mostly in line with the newer backgrounds starting since I think spelljammer, but yeah WoTC is Def leaning into 1st level feats for all

[@williamtaylor6886]

Love, love, love all the flavor choices here. Mechanics are important but putting them into brilliant flavor builds like this one is what makes them a thrill to play.

[@jacobyullman5005]

Something to keep in mind, the Cartomancer feat states "While the card is imbued with the spell, you can use a bonus action to flourish the card and cast the spell within. *The card then immediately loses its magic.* " You can only cast the spell as a bonus action from the card once per long rest, it doesn't allow you to continuously cast the imbued spell as a bonus action. Once the spell has been cast from the card, the card is no longer magical, and thus no longer imbued with the spell. It's essentially just a single free Quickened Spell per day, but you have to pick what spell you wanna quicken at the beginning of the day.

[@jAfr0Thunder86]

Agreed but it still uses a spell slot AND one level in a class gives you access to the entire spell list, correct?

[@Davidtaylershow]

​@@jAfr0Thunder86 Correct

[@Nempo13]

Depends on the version of the feat. One of the versions the card never loses magic until used. Meaning if a month goes by before you even get into combat...you could have 30 cards stockpiled.

[@darcraven01]

if cartomancer gives you access to the whole spell list just from one level, take divine soul sorc to get both the sorc and cleric spell lists from one lvl dip.. also take one level in genie warlock to get the warlock list and also lets you pick a genie vessel that you can jump into. in this, you could use your hat as the vessel. since you can leave stuff you bring inside your dm may let you use the vessel like a bag of holding if you ask.

[@jeffreyweevers3919]

Its a once a day cast of 1 spell so its probably not worth iy

[@darcraven01]

@@jeffreyweevers3919 but if you're already making a build around it like this video says than you'd already have it, worth it or not..

[@haiclips3358]

I don't think it works like that. DSS let's you use the cleric spell list as a subclass feature, but you're still a sorcerer. You don't actually have the cleric spell list because you're not a cleric.

[@collinw9792]

Unfortunately I don't think it would function that way. The divine soul sorc lets you, when you learn a spell/cantrip through your spellcasting feature choose from the cleric or sorc list. It doesn't say the cleric spells are added to your list. Similar to how some features that grant spells just say you learn them, such as fey touched/magic initiate, and others say it is added to your list, such as the ravnica and strixhaven backgrounds. Since it isn't added to your spell list, but rather simply another option only when selecting spells through that specific spellcasting class feature, it wouldn't work the way you had imagined. Does that make sense?

[@mkohlhorst]

I built a similar character, for a game that never happened. Bladesinger (sword cane) Harengon, Cartomancer that was also a white rabbit that had a top hat (Artificer in the group was going to make it a bag of holding), dressed in a Victorian suit. Planned to take a couple levels in Rogue (prof. in Performance and slight of hand). The animal/Alice in Wonderland "Gone Feywild". The whole party was animal themed. Tabaxi was an Arcane Trickster based on the Cheshire Cat. Owlin Order of Scribe (named Hootie w/ a Blowfish Manifested Mind). But alas that's as far as it got, planning.

[@tylorgovero2256]

Told my friend I wanted to do a stage magician character and they immediately sent me this. I'm so happy 😭

[@troydejong6206]

Hat that is a bag of holding is an easy tweak its just where you keep your partys bag! Every time the party asks for an item poof, you pull it from your hat! Love this build!

[@rhylin26]

11:23 I have a genie warlock with a magician theme that uses a hat as their vessel.

[@jensschmidt4847]

Yes! I think this is the best build you did so far, as far i seen them! Very nice and flavourfull! Very nice roleplaywise for sure i think! Great!

[@studynot757]

I love the idea of doing this with Conjurer Wizard and 2 levels of Artificer just for the hat nag of holding and then you can call your self a “CONJURER OF CHEAP TRICKS” and make the whole table laugh

[@TheKilogram1000]

Some things to note about the Harengon. You LOSE Jack of All Trades on your initiative, because Jack of All trades only acts for ability checks that don't add your proficiency bonus. Harengon is the only race that adds its proficiency bonus to its initiative. Also you don't get advantage on initiative at 1:48

[@mikecarson7769]

i like your bonus idea of the "hat of holding"

[@josequiles7430]

The card flavour is really cool and the gish gameplay plays well into the feat, but personally if I were to play a magician bard I'd 100% have to go for the Creation subclass so that I can literally pull stuff out of my hat

[@DracosDiabolis]

Ohh. Dude. If Wild Card Rogue was not classified as 'Homebrew" lmao oh the flavor. But ..... Soulknife... just reflavor the blades and cards.

[@KevShaw808]

Super flavorful build, really fun to listen to all the descriptions

[@collinw9792]

I believe that is the most accurate reading of the feat lol. Fun build! Harengon is a super fun lineage, I made a harengon build that has prof in every skill including initiative, very fun.

[@geoffshetler9553]

What an awesome build! Keep up the great work and videos.

[@Itachi45481]

I completely agree with your choice how the feat works

[@cptfreedom6038]

Love this idea! My dm is running a superhero campaign down the line and with my PC dying last session I can now channel my inner gambit while I wait for the supe campaign. With that said here is my spin on the build. I'm at lvl10 during this pc build. Background: witchlight hand cause it made sense Flavor and mechanics wise. I choose old blink dog for an extra fighting companion. I followed the same lvl progression. Lvl 3 I went college of creation over college of spirit. It just fits the magician them way better. Instead of storm sorcerer I went wild magic as you already have other means of disengaging and I'm all about the flavor and utility over damage output. For spells I chose most of what you recommended but also took some flavor spells and some spells for in the case you get swarmed without any disengage options left. Spells to note: Cantrips: sword burst flavored to card burst Spells: feather fall so you can jump/disengage out of danger even if it's off a cliff. Cloud of dagger flavored to cloud of cards. Glyph of warding so I can make card glyphs to use later and also fits right in with the cartomancer theme. Mirror image for extra defense and because it fits flavor wise. Greater invisibility for a just incase. Other spells I picked were support and utility spells that revolve around my pcs mechanics and flavor/personality/Background etc in the carnival. Being in the carnival i also picked up prof. In animal handling and took the speak with animals spell to really round out the idea of a Harengon carnival card magician/animal trainer. Having a blink dog it also made sense. Side note: I'm gonna use a staff instead of rapier. Yes, of course it's because gambit had a staff. 100% pilfering the bag of holding hat thing lol. Almost went with college of spirit cause of the tarokka deck but my dm is the best and still let me use that deck because of my witchlight background. A big thanks for this idea and chassis to build off of. Keep doing what yall do. Love the content.

[@isaacthek]

This reads like an actual Bugs Bunny build and I love it...

[@austinstewart2312]

That is amazing and it’s always the flavor for me so keep this up man. I’m one of your favorite fans and love watching you grow each week with builds. The way you show me different ways to look at 5E is amazing! 🎉 hoping we can get you some more subs

[@lars_vs]

I actually have a build with this flavor, but as a swarmkeeper ranger. The ‘swarm’ is several decks of cards, and he uses reflavored darts as cards to throw with. Not a close-combat character, but definitely a card fighter!

[@CivilWarMan]

For me, if building a suave card-based fighter, I'd go with a Spirits Bard, since they can use a deck of tarot cards as a spell focus. To make them a melee combatant, then, I'd put a few levels into either some kind of Paladin or a Pact of the Blade Warlock. So, with that in mind, I'd make a Dhampir Pact of the Blade Undead Warlock/College of Spirits Bard, drawing inspiration from the Dandy Man from Hellsing.

[@collinw9792]

The feat also allows you to use a deck of cards as a focus, but that sounds very fun too!

[@sleidman]

I literally just made a melee Cardomancer Bard for the campaign I'm in! I decided to go Variant Human Paladin 2/Whispers Bard 8 with Cartomancer and Aberrant Dragonmark (Shield and Booming Blade). I can use Cardomancy to get find greater steed and then most days I'll load up my card with Hold Monster for a bonus action paralysis and then a crit booming blade with a 4th level divine smite and 3d6 psychic whispers for a total of 10d6+12d8+4 or 93 damage on average.

[@haiclips3358]

Cartomancy requires the spell to be an action. Find greater steed is unfortunately a 10 minute casting time and doesn't count for this feat.

[@sleidman]

@@haiclips3358 Oh damn you're right. At least I can cast Circle of Power with it when I know we're going up against a spellcaster.

[@charliebear2048]

One build I would recommend going over is what i affectionately call "The Fastpass". Basically ensuring you get first in initiative every time Start with Harengon so you can add your proficiency bonus to your initiative Then you take Rogue as your class and make it to 3rd level where you can take swashbuckler and get another initiative bonus based on your charisma For 4th level, take the Alert feat as part of your ASI for obvious reasons When you get you get to 11th Level for Reliable Talent. If your DM allows it, then because you are technically proficient with initiative checks, any initiative roll of 9 or lower becomes a 10. The other 9 levels can be used for whatever you want.

[@elliotbryant3459]

Watchers paladin 7 could get you an aura of prof mod bonus as well. And with twilight cleric 1 you could get advantage. with 20 cha and 20 dex you would have a minimum initiative of 37 and a maximum of 47 with only your features. It's a little overkill though, it might be worth the initiative hit and swapping swashbuckler for assassin or thief which can have more benefits from a high initiative. Or you could swap out paladin for sorcerer [quickened spell to set up of a powerful spell] or whisper's bard [full caster progression with a limited sneak attack like feature using its inspiration]

[@jamestaylor3805]

Level 0 Variant Human +Skill(Cards) +Feat(Cartomancy) Rewarded Background + Lucky 1 Level Rogue Expertise in Cards and Sleight of Hand. Go Arcane Trickster to level 11 for Mage Hand Legerdomain and Reliable Talent(take 10 effect). Now a nearly unbeatable card shark. Other levels into Artificer for Armor of Tools, Flash of Genius, Guidance and Enhance Ability. You will never ever ever loose a game of cards.

[@JamesFicken]

I've been playing a character for 4-5 years now that has a hat that is basically a bag of holding. I wrote this story back in 2007 or 2008.

[@bringitonbatman]

Man I've been thinking about Cartomancer for the last few days specifically for a Bard, but kept coming back to the Spirits Bard that can use a Tarot Deck anyway.

[@TAPSDOC]

This is freaky, I just made a magician lore bard with cartomancer, only I went variant human (misty visions) and dipped two levels into wizard illusionist. He uses Find Familiar for his rabbit. Wristpocket is great for this build too, and Tiny Servant and Animate Objects flavor those cards even more.

[@simonacerton3478]

So a Haregon party : Echo and the Bunnymen : Tram Leader Echo Knight with performer background Bugs and Babs as Rogue Arcane Tricksters this guy here as support and a Barbarian Path of Giant, a very Vorpral Fellow Run away run away!

[@tirionpendragon]

I love this character, well done as always man! 🤩

[@troydejong6206]

Instead of hopping for mobility, focus on misty step, deep dive into close up magic! The ultimate build to attach a cape of billowing!

[@ebjgtravel2100]

Name suggestion: David Hopperfield I helped design a similar character, harengon conjurer wizard with minor illusion (to start a performance of pulling himself out of a giant hat) then using conjuration to literally pull a magic rabbit out of a hat. Telekinetic to round out intelligence and for invisible mage hand to do tricks as well. I’ll link a full design (was only a level 5 oneshot) below for those interested!

[@ebjgtravel2100]

Name suggestion = David Hopperfield (The Rabbit Stage Magician) Race = Harengon (Rabbit out of a hat gags, bonus to initiative, rabbit hop bonus action to escape melee enemies without opportunity attacks, lucky feet for help on DEX saves) Background = Urchin (Slight of Hand proficiency for card tricks, stealth to do sneaky stuff) Abilities (point buy) = 15 (+2 racial) INT for being a wizard, 15 (+1 racial) constitution for CON saves & health, 14 DEX for armour class, sleight of hand, stealth and initiative, 10 wisdom for saves / perception, dump strength & charisma because a stage performer with no charisma is funny Class = Conjuration Wizard, ability to constantly pull things out of your magicians hat out of combat for quality RP Feat (Level 4) = Telekinetic - increases INT, gives bonus action ability to move people with your mind (enemies into fireballs, allies out of danger), gives mage hand for free and its an INVISIBLE mage hand for slight of hand shenanigans (Later levels - cartomancer for flavour!) Spells: - Cantrips Create Bonfire (by request, smoke bombs) Mage hand (as above from telekinetic) Minor Illusion (gotta have illusions for a magician, can also conjure illusion of a giant 5ft hat to hide in which will give full cover from spells requiring line of sight) Prestitidigation (Card tricks and magician stuff) Toll the Dead (needed some damaging cantrips, highest damage, also doesn't have a visible effect so can flavour it however you like, maybe throwing a playing card at an enemy that explodes into confetti doing damage) - Level 1 Find Familiar (ritual)- gives you a pet to help with magic shows, can give the help action for advantage on attacks, can pop it in and out of existence for magic shows, is a ritual so doesn't use spell slots or prepared spells Mage Armour - need it for AC and could be a magical costume change Shield - need it for AC and could be a wall of playing cards or something Absorb Elements - essential spell, can capture fire and channel it Disguise self, disguise on stage, magic trick Unseen servant (ritual)- invisible helper, useful for magic tricks, also ritual spell so don't need to prepare it Magic missile (not prepared) - Good reliable damage spell, could flavour it as playing cards Detect magic (ritual) - very useful, doesn't need to be prepared - Level 2 Mirror image (not prepared) - illusion to fit the theme, plus very powerful non concentration defensive spell Levitate - minor flight, also can immobilise melee enemies in combat, fits theme of levitating magic trick Suggestion - very useful utility, magically forcing NPCs to participate in act or do other things PYROTECHNICS - same as fog cloud but no concentration, also can blind things in combat, very fitting of theme (never used this spell but thought it would be perfect for the concept) - Level 3 Fireball - great AOE damage, can flavour it as wand of fireballs Summon Fey - Pull a fairy (or could flavour it as a magic rabbit with wings) out of a hat, summon in combat, high damage, extra protection, tricksy form does it's own magic tricks - Other spells to consider (would need to change them out with above spells) Hideous laughter, bad stage joke to force fits of laughter Fog cloud - worse version of pyrotechnics with concentration Invisibility - useful utility, magic tricks Knock - by request, occasionally useful Rope Trick - literally a magic trick, gives 8 friends a safe place to take a short rest for 1 hour Misty step - Bonus action teleport to escape, also on theme for disappearing acts Enhance ability - just very useful utility, advantage on any skill check for an hour Enlarge reduce - Not very suited to character but cool magic trick Blink - Cool magic trick, strong non concentration Counterspell - essential spell if optimising Dispel Magic - Key spell if optimising Lightning bolt - equal damage to fireball, easier to not AOE hurt your allies Phantom steed (ritual)- free spell, magical mount with 100ft move speed Tiny Hut (ritual) - free spell, protective place to long rest, could be magicians tent I may have gone way overboard, but I think it's not only a strong character build - but also I made a lot of non optimised choices to fit the flavour and theme - let me know what you think!

[@markstruckmeyer9193]

Love this build. Keep up the great work

[@Xanderriggs]

Love this build. Thanks for sharing

[@mariop8852]

Super cool! I'm working on a Cartomancer Clockwork Sorcerer thats basically Doc Holiday.

[@trevorlaw128]

building from you sleight of hands focus, the humblewood material gives opportunistic thief, that helps with this kind of thing

[@a.z.pantera5577]

Quick aside for this character: have them worship a god of luck (or make a bet with one), and take that Sorcerer level into Wild Magic. It adds actual randomness to your "card draws", and could be seen as a bad draw or retribution for stacking your deck. Also taking summoning spells with Magical Secrets. Summon Draconic Spirit is right there!

[@roninhare9615]

The Deck of Wild Cards would be perfect for this build.

[@Dragonofdawest]

Nice vid. This is actually a build I’ve been tinkering with for my next character this summer so perfect timing. I think I’m probably gonna go wild magic sorcerer just for that extra little bit of chaos and maybe spirits bard for the card themed stuff. Though some of the comments got me rethinking with the possibility of a soul knife rogue 🤔

[@collinw9792]

Flavor is free ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ if you like the flavor of one subclass but the mechanics of another, you can easily change the flavor to match

[@ItsMeCassius]

Question, what about the wild card rogue

[@patrickslayter9946]

So basically the Cartomancer feat allows you to cast a spell of 1 action as a bonus action so long as you have the appropriate spell slot level for the spell, and so long as that spell is on your spell list even if you don't have that spell prepared or known.

[@collinw9792]

Yes, you just need to choose and prepare the spell early, not in the moment. It's a fun feat

[@glitchking666]

I like the idea of taking the crossbow expert feat and using Tasha's mind whip as the ace spell as for the sorcerer subclass I'm going with my favorite subclass of the game aberrant mind the telepathy fits the theme very well reading your audience's mind is very fitting for a stage magician although you do have to take 6 levels for the psionic spell casting feature . But you do get a little more flexibility when spell casting some extra spells. You could also achieve a very similar build with hexblade warlock and eloquence bard to be a smoother talker, or hex blade and creation bard to be able to magically create some of the items for your tricks

[@collinw9792]

What is crossbow expert contributing to the build?

[@glitchking666]

@@collinw9792 it allows ranged attacks to be used within 5 feet without disadvantage

[@collinw9792]

@@glitchking666 ok I thought that might be it. If you aren't going to be using the attack granted by CBE, gunner is another option that does the same thing but also boosts your dexterity, so it can be more valuable than CBE

[@glitchking666]

@@collinw9792 very true but not every dm allows that feat , but if you can get it use it

[@collinw9792]

@@glitchking666 fair, I've never met a DM that wouldn't allow the feat, but yeah if a dm chooses to not allow a character option it would not be allowed lol

[@chrishicks1737]

I have a couple of ideas I'd love help with. One is a Warforged Path of the Giant Barbarian using a battle axe and shield that possibly multiclasses and the other is a order of the mutant blood hunter strength build.

[@collinw9792]

If your campaign is likely to go to level 20 go straight barb, that capstone is hard to beat. If not, I'd consider a dip into fighter for thrown weapon fighting style, or picking up a feat to get it. Giant barb is the strongest barbarian, doesn't really need to multiclass to maintain reasonable damage. Honestly I haven't looked much into blood hunter, it's a quasi martial build, just go PAM/GWM, take some formulas that seem interesting to you, and you'll do fine. If you want your hemocraft mod to be anything at all either pick up a headband or intellect along the way (that's the best choice if you can swing it) or you'll be needing to sacrifice your AC and HP in order to bump your int. Depending on the fight you get into the potency and rapidity formulas seem to be the most useful in combat generally, just don't go up against something with a breath weapon or casting fireball and you should be ok

[@NINJAfries07]

I’m a little surprised that you didn’t even mention Spirit Guardians as an option for Magical Secrets. You could give yourself a swirling storm of cards to batter all enemies that get a little too close.

[@woutvanostaden1299]

He talks about a bag of holding hat. Sounds to me like something artificer could make. (Maybe bag of holding hat has flap so you can wear it like a hat or disappear into it) I could see an artificer dipping druid, cleric or of course wizard as decent alternate build that could work pretty well. 😊

[@LanceLaytner]

Use a tarokka deck with Spirits Bard for a grim dark variation - a shadowy fortune teller.

[@johncasebeer179]

Great video!

[@davidlosey431]

could this build work with a lore bard who throws cards instead of being up front?

[@jachaimay3737]

Bravo! Bravo! This build really drew me in. 😏

[@matalvis]

What if you went one level into Genie Warlock? If your DM is cool with it you can get your hat used as a Genie's Vessel. You can store things in it, put wards buffs or heals inside (that only heal or buff those in the vessel since it is a pocket dimension) and you can hide as a hat on a coatrack. You might not want to go 10 levels into genie lock, but if you do you can pull five willing people in with you. Main thing is, a genie's vessel acts as a bag of holding.

[@Arclight-Arcanum]

Now this will help me solidify making a Huckster from Deadlands…

[@kableedge9278]

Divine Soul Sorcerer is good for mitigating those saves, 2d4 (Admitted once a day) to a failed save is pretty good imo

[@haiclips3358]

Once per short rest actually. So a very nice option to dip into

[@kableedge9278]

@@haiclips3358 Thank you for the correction! I haven't dipped into spell casters yet, but would defo help with those wisdom saves

[@LawrenceDomkowski]

Fun build. Here's one for you: the Rabbi (a Bard/Cleric build). How would you build it?

[@collinw9792]

There are a thousand bard cleric builds that could work, making a specific build would need some more parameters. What's the goal of the build for example?

[@LawrenceDomkowski]

@@collinw9792 Great Question! A teacher, a story teller, a cantor and a historian. An Ethos driven champion for the continuation of a promise.

[@collinw9792]

@@LawrenceDomkowski you can flavor any abilities/classes as those things, I was more asking what mechanically you were wanting to accomplish. Maybe being good at history, maybe being good at religion, maybe being a pacifist, what are the mechanical goals for the character?

[@LawrenceDomkowski]

@@collinw9792 Mechanically, I don't know about mechanically, but the model I'm seeing is Gene Wilders character in the 1979 movie, The Frisco Kid. Starring Gene Wilder and Harrison Ford.

[@curlyfriesmack2710]

What weapon would we be using in this build?

[@collinw9792]

Probably rapier with the dueling style. It's going to be the best weapon for you, and also fits the gentleman rogue flavor of this build. Dual welding scimitars could work as well, but not on the round you use your card, and that makes your bonus action occupied every round for only maybe 1dpr increase. This character will not be doing a lot of damage in combat, it is primarily going to be doing spells. If you're able to reliably proc the extra damage from the blade cantrips as he said use them over extra attack, if you are not able to reliably do so and only get the extra dice every other round or so (maybe using your rabbit hop to make them want to move in to melee with you) then it will do equivalent damage at lvl 5, so really up to you. Not good damage either way, you aren't primarily a damage dealer, you're a bard.

[@zegnol897]

Unfortunately my DM won't allow me to take lvl 4 sorcerer spells because in theory I didn't learn them with this build. Is it still interesting to multiclass then ?

[@DCC_Jeephunk]

I'm so confused, I was talking about this exact build with my roommate at like 2 in the morning the day this came out

[@julienmaillard277]

Bard of creation could be a nice alternative 😀

[@sebastianrojo8952]

This could work really well for my concept of my genie warlock, and if i went 1 level in soul sorcerer not only do i have 3 spell list to choose for the feat but also have low level spell options. My build was always first level of fighter for armkr and con prof, but with sorcerer I might forgo that and just start sorcerer for the con saves and rely on mage armor, way less armor but 1 less level to dip. Tho 1 fighter, 1 sorcerer and 8 warlock would be cool (ID be starting at level 10)

[@elliotbryant3459]

Oof, I forgot what a broken feat that is. I agree on your interpretation of it. Nowhere does it say you can cast it w/o a spell slot. For a magician bard, I would probably go college of creation, although glamour or spirits could be interesting too. But I agree there are a lot of interesting options. Aberrant sorcerer for discounted /7 subtle casting [as well as telepathy and more quickened/subtle spell]; soul knife rogue w/ the psychic blades reskinned as cards, rune knight fighter's cloud rune, etc. Druid 1+ could be nice to pull some conjure animals shenanigans as a magician

[@studynot757]

I would probably go Glamour or even Lore for the earlier magical secrets and additional skills

[@collinw9792]

How is it broken though? Except for specific multiclassing, it's not an overly powerful feat. I'd put it about on par with something like metamagic adept. This forces you to prep your spell you want quickened at the beginning of the day, metamagic adept can quicken whenever, and it's certainly not a broken feat

[@elliotbryant3459]

​@@collinw9792 Broken might be an exaggeration, but I'm thinking not and at the very least, it is unprecedented. It's problematic in relation to the current meta of how these things are normally accessed with multiclassing. It gets you a magical secret that you can change every day with only a 1 level investment in the other class. Previously you had to invest a bunch of levels in the other specific class [or committing a magical secret] if you wanted to gain access a spell, which over half the time is a fixed asset [a known spell], -and you also get to cast it with your regular casting stat if there is a DC or Attack bonus is involved- The free metamagic for it and the cantrip are the cherries on top

[@JeremieCampeau33]

Is it just me or I got some Gambit(X-Men) vibe with this built 😂😂

[@akmi1931]

You should have been able to store multiple spells as cards, and been able to cast all of your spells through the cards.

[@smilefox_exe]

Go divine soul sorcerer and have access to 3 different spell lists

[@haiclips3358]

I don't think that works. You would be limited to the only cleric spells you choose from the subclass as they become sorcerer spells for you. The divine soul sorcerer subclass feature let's you use the cleric spell list when choosing sorcerer spells. But you are not a cleric and therefore don't have access to the cleric spell list through this feat.

[@smilefox_exe]

@@haiclips3358 yeah, probably doesn’t work but imagine

[@michaelmuirhead910]

I just don’t know how to feel about being able to just grab whatever spell you want from another spell list with cartomancer. I totally get your flavor build, and it sounds like a lot of fun. Bards are so powerful with magical secrets alone, but giving any other spell casting class that ability (not fully of course, but 100% more versatile) sounds like a bad idea. A cleric with wall of force, a moon druid with tensor’s transformation, etc, etc… Every table is DM dependent of course, but this feat can break encounters (and the game) pretty easy, as early as tier 2. Really enjoy your content, but I have to disagree about allowing players to use this feat.

[@Dahaka-rd6tw]

Hey. did you see my comment in your "face stealer" video? Made another list for monster to look into from Tome of Beasts 2

[@troydejong6206]

Hate 8 hours... Should be till you take another long rest. The spell you imbue on a card.

[@NOYFB982]

Close up, not up close.

[@collinw9792]

Potato potato