On episode #15 of "Low Hanging Fruit" Charlie Marlow & Brenden Schaeffer analyze the St. Louis Cardinals! Subscribe to Brenden's YT channel as well @bschaeffer12! #mlb #stlouiscardinals #detroittigers
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@turdferguson93733 ай бұрын
The headline of this video should be: “Tommy Pham was right”. He called out the front office 10 years ago saying they weren’t developing talent and giving the right guys opportunities. The BFIB rolled their eyes as Mo showed Pham the door, because the team was still riding high then. But it turns out, he was right.
@michaelallen11543 ай бұрын
@turdferguson9373 - Bro, that sounds like a book title.
@bradmccurdy61253 ай бұрын
Tommy “Rod Tidwell” Pham ruined his future when he did that Sports Illustrated interview. He pushed himself out of town. Hes not a star. Maybe if he could control his own ego, and realize no one held him down, he might be a happier person. In his own mind he is a hall of famer.
@ACErob-me9ss3 ай бұрын
Man if the Cardinals were half as good as these videos they'd be undefeated. Absolutely great job gentlemen
@CharlieMarlowSTL3 ай бұрын
thx ACE!
@robertcrist57473 ай бұрын
Yup! Love the different views
@MrGgabber3 ай бұрын
We redid the pitching last off-season. Now we just need to redo the entire offense and we will be good!
@CharlieMarlowSTL3 ай бұрын
haha
@robertcrist57473 ай бұрын
.......We'd be fine if this Coach and friends was gone and we had another solid starter......But this organization rewards last place with contract extensions now. 😑👈
@carryparavello77223 ай бұрын
Think about this Carpenter, Wainwright, Pujols & Molina were already on the team before Mozeliak got the job and he has yet to prove he can establish core players he only proved he can tinker with a core that was gifted to him so my point is how much credit does he actually deserve for that 2011 championship and the 4 good years after that?
@userAsh21253 ай бұрын
Exactly they pushed out Tony so they could have a manager who takes lineups and orders from the front office.
@tonyc87523 ай бұрын
Mo took the team over 2008 and in 2022 he was still relying on Waino, Yadi and Pujols to carry the team. even in 2022, Jocketty was still more responsible for the division title than Mo
@robertcrist57473 ай бұрын
Walt Jockerty Baby!
@henketooraw3 ай бұрын
Entire rosters don’t just all underperform at the same time unless there is major catastrophe in coaching
@ACErob-me9ss3 ай бұрын
💯
@robertcrist57473 ай бұрын
ABSOLUTELY! This experiment should be over.....But they give last place extensions these days?
@henketooraw3 ай бұрын
@@robertcrist5747 Mo should start trying to save face and can Oli. Pin the blame on him. Worst case scenario it lights a fire under a player’s ass, we all know this team could use an energy boost
@scottsmith26873 ай бұрын
Totally agree 👍
@YouMama17773 ай бұрын
Can we finally have Winn hit lead off now? Let the dude hit doubles and steal in front of Burelson. Arenado. Contreras.
@robertcrist57473 ай бұрын
Right. I'm not a fan, but I'd go Rah Rah Brittlebar behind Winn because even though he's slumping now.....He does draw walks. Contreras hitting two is a joke because "Yes" he does hit bombs.....But he strikes out alot too.
@YouMama17773 ай бұрын
@@robertcrist5747 my ideal would would ... Winn. Burelson. Arenado. Contreras ... Gorman. Goldy ... then stack Noot Donovan Siani ... yoi have speed in the one. Contact in the 2 and 3 ... power in the 4 and 5 ... guys who can walk in Goldy Noot and Donovan in front of Siani ... who can move them over ... so maybe you also get guys on base in front of Winn and Burelson.
@greatone2753 ай бұрын
@@robertcrist5747what is wrong with his lineup ? He's got Contreras hitting on the cleanup spot
@stephenboehm51853 ай бұрын
This is much deeper than Oli (not an Oli fan). This has to be an approach /development issue. There needs to be a purge of this front office.
@michaelallen11543 ай бұрын
@stephenboehm5185 - I made this comment in reply to another post, but here it is again... "this organization does _not_ have the personnel with the ability to forensically analyze their players."
@georgesouthwick70003 ай бұрын
Hey, the offense might suck this year, but we have lots of “veteran leadership”. That has really made a big difference……lol
@BrianB1233 ай бұрын
You know why we “needed” veteran leadership? Cause it’s cheaper than a leadoff hitting CF, lefty power bat or a top of the rotation piece that misses bats.
@michaelallen11543 ай бұрын
Our two veteran infielders Goldie and 'Nado are not leaders in any sense of the word. And they are also not clutch at all.
@enoughisenough37103 ай бұрын
I would have traded Goldschmidt in the offseason but other than yet - yeah, it's pretty shocking so far how bad this team has been.
@robertcrist57473 ай бұрын
He would have to approve it. No trade clause.
@billbayes32613 ай бұрын
Charlie, I've got questions. What is the general overall attitude of the players in the dugout during the games? Are they all working together and encouraging each other? Is this something that you think they're going to break out of or is this going to continue for the remainder of the season?
@CharlieMarlowSTL3 ай бұрын
I'm not at the games but they just gotta hit!
@billbayes32613 ай бұрын
@@CharlieMarlowSTL yes!! That's what they get paid to do! They need to stop the strikeouts and put the ball in play!
@bschaeffer123 ай бұрын
The word from Oli has been a lot of encouraging conversation in the dugout. Take that for what it is worth but that's what has been described by not only Oli but a number of players, when asked.
@greatone2753 ай бұрын
No bunting, working the count, stolen bases, hit and run, sacrifices, typical baseball
@robertcrist57473 ай бұрын
.......Still on the Marmol train Greatone? Cause its not going to happen with him. "Station to Station" for this guy means "Uber to Uber". 😑👈
@greatone2753 ай бұрын
@@robertcrist5747 you have me confused, I've never been on the Oli train name one time that I've defended him ? My comments have been simple which is players are paid to play and some things like hitting are not in his control, you are responsible for the things you control right? You of all people as a military man should know this
@TheJenargo3 ай бұрын
As a history nerd I appreciate Brenden's triumvirate name for the end of the bullpen. Gave me a good chuckle.
@drubizzy3 ай бұрын
All those dudes working for Mo when things were going good went to work for the Astros and we see where the Astros have been for the past decade trash can banging not withstanding. Also now there’s no TLR and maybe more importantly no Yadi.
@eddiejenkins76133 ай бұрын
If no pitching it effecte the off fence it gets in there head
@ScottyPeabody3 ай бұрын
No no no BSchaeff, they’ll NEVER win the Arozarena trade. Dude won the ROTY. LCS MVP. Should’ve won WS MVP, Almost won WS by himself. His postseason OPS over 128 PA’s in 5 seasons is 1.103. If he never gets another hit the rest of his career we got stroked. Enjoy the 2 of you very much.
@bschaeffer123 ай бұрын
Not win it! Just would hate it less if Libby becomes World Series mode of Andrew Miller in relief.
@patguido58103 ай бұрын
Could it be Mo has known he’s going to be done soon so his time and effort looking into these players or trying to find great deals has dipped significantly? Performing to keep/succeed in your job is a completely different mindset then knowing your job performance doesn’t matter much anymore as the end is coming either way.
@drewpballs22763 ай бұрын
Just when you think the Cardinals might be turning it around, they seem to take a step back.
@Mizzou17223 ай бұрын
I think what hurts that no one really talks about is the draft. You have so many years of drafting poor, as is pick 20+. That adds up. high draft picks help
@georgesouthwick70003 ай бұрын
And all we hear is what a god job Randy Flores is doing. I’d hate to think how bad things would be if he was doing a bad job. The Cardinals rarely make a good draft choice, and when they do, they do a terrible job of developing young talent.
@deedunn19893 ай бұрын
Baseball is the one sport where draft pick is probably one of the least important. The draft is so long and deep you can find talent anywhere. You just have to evaluate it
@Mizzou17223 ай бұрын
@@deedunn1989 ask Baltimore and Cincinatti, Pittsburgh, heck even Miami. it is easier tell how good a Pual Skenes is going to be then a Tink hence. And i am just talking about Farm system and High caliber prospects.
@charliesmith42293 ай бұрын
Charlie, because the dewitts are low ballers when it comes to trades and acquisitions. Facts.....I just think and want the dewitts to sell the team as well as its library. It's time ⏲️. This team is like watching 👀 paint dry and as exciting as having a root canal surgery without a pain killer. You guys are awesome, and congratulations on all your success
@nickelliott11743 ай бұрын
Looks like a low scoring series this weekend, so it will probably be 10 to 8 every game.😃
@samemtp3 ай бұрын
Charlie, I know I always say fire Marmol, but you guys finally have made me realize that because of the Tyler O'Neill fiasco, that is solid why he should be fired.
@ScottyPeabody3 ай бұрын
If u think there’s any chance at all, and I don’t think there is, but if u think they could have a 360 degree turnaround I’d keep Crawford. He’s probably going to get back into shape. If they release him the Dodgers will pick him up and he’ll win WS MVP. Y’all touched on a LOT that demands much much more exploration. Right now, let’s level with each other here: the St. Louis Cardinals are broken. Their farm system isn’t even Top 20, their team isn’t even Top 25, their payroll is Top 10. This is a mess. There’s TOO MUCH that needs fixing that isn’t going to happen this year or maybe the next several. How can Randy Flores be a hot candidate for Moz job when you look at the farm system presently? How can anyone in the F.O. even be able to anticipate being here next year?
@robertcrist57473 ай бұрын
The Crawford thing was a joke right?
@bschaeffer123 ай бұрын
Hour long podcast and we left much to be discussed! That's how much yall wanna hear about the Birds! lol
@charliesmith42293 ай бұрын
Wow, wait a second. Charlie, did Dewitt really say that his brand isn't profitable? Seriously! He bought the Cardinals from the Busch family for 175 million in 1996 and it's now worth 3.4 billion--- am I missing something here? Cheers man!
@CharlieMarlowSTL3 ай бұрын
he said it on Frank's show a few years ago!
@charliesmith42293 ай бұрын
@@CharlieMarlowSTL .. unbelievable my friend
@user-rh2ru2hz4y3 ай бұрын
Allen Craig his contract and non recovery from injury. Since then this team has been relying on luck. Built good enough for so many years, trading away the future to band aid those teams for hopes of a playoff run, miracle, year in and year out. What could have been if mo knew how to rebuild and did it in the mid teens.
@gei2z3 ай бұрын
You talk about Crawford, but did we see Matt Carpenter in action anywhere already? I forget.
@CharlieMarlowSTL3 ай бұрын
Gei! Carp is hurt
@gei2z3 ай бұрын
@@CharlieMarlowSTL Ah yes. Good point
@ryancairns1393 ай бұрын
One small credit to Mo: the Romero for Edmundo Sosa trade is looking solid. I didn't care at the time but Romero is killing it right now
@dillonhatfield77243 ай бұрын
Good/bad teams are not made in 1 offseason. Back to back bad teams are DEFINITLY not made in 1 offseason. This team is a decade in the making. Asking "what should Mo have done last offseason?" is 5 off-seasons late. "Alcantara and Gallen didnt get good looks" is not a good defense of the FO. Throw Hicks in to the discussion and Mo has traded away 3 top end starters before giving them a chance.
@hspg3 ай бұрын
We did better developing hitters than pitchers. Arozarena, Garcia, and O'Neill call came through our minor league system. Arozarena and Garcia never had much playing time before traded, and they couldn't keep O'Neill healthy at all.
@BrianB1233 ай бұрын
Great show. Listening to what you had to say it seems like the Cards are always trying to do things different from everyone else to succeed. If the league is trending to lefty power, we put together a lineup without any. If the league is trending to power pitching, we turn to soft throwing contact guys. It seems the Cards either think they’re smarter than everyone else or it’s just the cheaper way to do business. Either way, it isn’t fun as a fan all of the sudden. We’ve lowered our expectations as fans because it appears they’ve lowered theirs in the front office.
@CharlieMarlowSTL3 ай бұрын
yes Brian, thx!
@chrisweidner47683 ай бұрын
“They almost won the series.” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😳🤮Indeed. Yesterday. Bases loaded. Nobody out. K, K, K. Hoping this ends soon. Go Cardinals. “People are being fair about it.” True. Weary of the approach. These guys make millions of dollars. We are back in full excuse mode. Matz should have been ramped up prior to spring training.
@michaelallen11543 ай бұрын
Brendan, you mentioned Grichuk, and I'm going to tell you why he's one of my favorite players in recent Cardinals history. On defensive, he is perfectly capable. His offensive output has never been phenomenal, but he's been consistently average, and that is better than _anybody_ in the current StL lineup! His "hills and valleys" aren't as severe as other players too. In fact, for about a week last year, Grichuk had the highest season OBP for the NL, and that included above Luis Arraez from the Marlins. I've never thought Grich's bat was all that powerful - his swing is ugly as dog$hi+ and if he would spend an off-season in the Lou' and go see Aaron Judge's coach across town in St. Pete, he'd be phenomenal and that's because he can literally put a bat on any goddamned ball close to the zone - even if he doesn't barrel super well - it's his f_¢kin eyes that kept him in the major leagues, not his swing - but he can contact. As a result, Grich' won't "Tony Gwynn" his team in a pinch by refusing to swing and just taking a walk, despite who is coming up behind him in the lineup. Jack Clark thought Tony Gwynn was a piece of $hi+ when he played in SD b/c of Gwynn's obsession with his own numbers, instead of getting after a close pitch and trying to put a ball in play to advance runners. If Grich' played the Tony Gwynn game, he'd probably have a near .400 every year. But with 0 or 1 outs, the guy will slap at the ball to put it in play and move guys over.
@Noosh_3 ай бұрын
I'm putting a ton of blame on Turner Ward and whatever his hitting philosophy is. Obviously he's not telling them not to hit but he's also obviously not telling them the right adjustments to make either. And something that would point towards it being a coaching problem is the hitting woes being a team wide problem. It's not just a couple players struggling or an aging player here and there it's a hitting mentality and philosophy problem at the core. It's on the players to perform but it's on the hitting coach to identify adjustments and set forth the game plan at the plate and Turner Ward is failing at that job.
@userAsh21253 ай бұрын
I was a big Lane Thomas guy thought with actual playing time he could be a very solid outfielder. You guys were talking about the players norms I believe the first 2 seasons these young guys have aren’t the norms it’s the seasons of average to below average play after the honeymoon phase wears off and that’s been a problem going back to David Craig. Not to mention all those young gun pitchers from 2012-2016 whose drop offs were unexplainable. As for O’Neil personally I would have moved him a couple years ago maybe could’ve got something for him It’s undeniable now all us guys calling for MO’s head were right no championships since the HOF manager was pushed out for this current model of just happy being a wildcard contender because it fills the seats.
@homespuncovers893 ай бұрын
Just like pitchers get mound visits to talk things over maybe this offense needs “BOX” visits where they could tell the batter to “make an adjustment” what you’ve tried through the first 30+ games hasn’t worked????
@kennethburruss44883 ай бұрын
The lineup is the problem, and whoever makes out the lineup is the issue. Ollie/Mo and owner are the common denominators to the last couple of years' failure. The manager is way in over his head. Look how he flip-flops the lineup like he is managing a softball team. If a player hits a homerun, the next day, he moves him into the cleanup spot. This manager going up against the better than average managers. You can chalk up an L. He doesn't know how to play situation baseball or utilize speed in the lineup.
@user-bg9oq1oe9p3 ай бұрын
We need another big arm!! Trade goldie!! Or at least bring tink hence up for a look see. He looks pretty dominant now!! Put burly at first. They got 6 guys who can play first!! What the hell do they do with luken baker??? If u dont play him trade him!!! Carp crawford experiment not looking to good! Carlson will be an improvement over siani. Scott really disappointed me.!!!! This team needs a major shakeup!!! Guys like goldie gorman nootbar are gonna have to be offered !!!!
@CraigHunt-mb4iu3 ай бұрын
Maybe not only the fans don't like Mo.But other gyms as well.Do not care for him.Therefore do not make trades with him
@bschaeffer123 ай бұрын
How did you break into Busch Stadium on an off day
@robertcrist57473 ай бұрын
70 - 92 this season. One more loss than last year. Nobody wants to address the Coaching or be proactive in another good starter so it's just a repeat of last year only this season it's minus "Wainopaloza" and a silly gimmick phone when your 12 games out of first.
@georgesouthwick70003 ай бұрын
Every team can always use more pitching, but the Cardinals pitching has been good enough if the offense would just provide some run support.
@Wilco19723 ай бұрын
@@georgesouthwick7000Do you really think that this pitching staff is built for the rigors of a full season? I will be shocked if two out of the four don't have significant time on the IR before the end of the season. That's when the wheels will really come off this season
@muthergoose40843 ай бұрын
Another great video gents. Keep up the great work. Overall from front office to the coaches to the team itself none of it is what we expected. If B wants a guy who we can pay 700k I know a guy in the Mexican league.
@ACErob-me9ss3 ай бұрын
Man you're right both these guys work great together. There both awesome reporters they work great solo as well 👍
@robertcrist57473 ай бұрын
@ACErob-me9ss....Give Charlie props all day.....Mr Schaefer on the other hand likes to delete your comments if he disagrees.
@ACErob-me9ss3 ай бұрын
@robertcrist5747 hey sir I'm not saying he didn't do that. But I had a couple comments deleted not on his channel but when I inquired about it I was told it was a you tube thing going on for some reason. Just so you aware
@arnoldkeen63933 ай бұрын
I am one of those fans who picked Gorman to hit 40+ homers this season. Now I think he can set a MLB record for strikeouts in a week. I bow my head in humiliation.
@shanepage80413 ай бұрын
Charlie actually spittin truth this episode
@CharlieMarlowSTL3 ай бұрын
I wasn't before?! haha
@michaelallen11543 ай бұрын
Someone should do a case study on all the assets the Cardinals let go over the past 12-13 years and write a book about it.
@bschaeffer123 ай бұрын
Did anyone else realize Richie Palacios had an .895 OPS? :0
@Thatturtlebro3 ай бұрын
Nope, and it doesn't surprise me
@LAvsMVP3 ай бұрын
They just need to cast a line out to the Rays and see what players they bite on then say no thanks will keep them then trade the guys they don't want to other teams lmao
@CharlieMarlowSTL3 ай бұрын
haha, that's smart!
@Jeff767673 ай бұрын
Rotten organization. I keep saying it. They don’t know how to build rosters and the owner doesn’t give them much leeway to begin with.
@Jens-we3vg3 ай бұрын
Predicting sox sweep cards
@chrisweidner47683 ай бұрын
Holy crapppppp!!! Just saw the called 3rd strike to end the game. C. B. Needs to go. Tennis went to tech decades ago. MLB desperately needs to go to tech for balls and strikes.
@chiefs15873 ай бұрын
Perhaps it’s time for a coaching change!!!
@Curiousmuffin643 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@josephpolaster22713 ай бұрын
Hence for Arrozarina straight up
@jimhun13 ай бұрын
Charley, don't blame you for ducking this guy. He barely lets you get a word in. Talks so fast he should be a used car salesman. Lol. 36:10 36:11 36:12
@CharlieMarlowSTL3 ай бұрын
c'mon!
@jimhun13 ай бұрын
Reminds me of that cartoon duck......yacky. lol. Haha.
@CharlieMarlowSTL3 ай бұрын
haha, who?
@user-rh2ru2hz4y3 ай бұрын
I freaking told you richie was going to be better than Noot.
@michaelallen11543 ай бұрын
@user-rh2ru2h4y - I wasn't ready to say it out loud at the end of last year, but yeah... good call dude. As of this morning (5/3/2024) Richie is batting a healthy .310 with .430 OBP! Noot's at .185 with .293 OBP. Richie's BA is higher than Noot's f_¢king OBP! Let's just all admit what this is... this organization does _not_ have the personnel with the ability to forensically analyze their players.
@kpm28513 ай бұрын
This team looks like a little league team
@nealdefrees70683 ай бұрын
Cubs are far better than the cardinals. Cubs will finish better than the cardinals
@daryldixon36853 ай бұрын
Even if they are better they still suck!
@timmangan66813 ай бұрын
Why does Marmol/Mozeliak not play Burleson and Herrera at the same time rarely..Its either Burly and Siani or Herrera and Siani..Very rarely Marmol/Mozeliak plays Burleson and Herrera which Supplies more offensive than Burly and Siani or Herrera and Siani..Seems like the Cardinals or Marmol/Mozeliak would choose the more offensive route in which they could use the more offensive route.. Oli/Mo probably thinks something else is more important than MORE OFFENSE..
@jerryfranks11583 ай бұрын
I do not get the organizations obsession with Lars Nootbarr. He is a 4th outfielder at best but they talk about him like he is one of the best outfielders in baseball. They are banking on the marketability of his name. If his name was Jim Smith and he played the way he does, they wouldnt have so much faith in him.
@robertcrist57473 ай бұрын
@CharlieMarlowSTL.....Charlie! What's the chances of trading this Ms Schaefer for Alexa Datt? 🤣👍 Then you can go from "Low Hanging Fruit" to the old "Chicks still dig the Long ball with Charlie and Alexa!" As Jack Buck would say....."That's a Winner!" ✌🤣
@CharlieMarlowSTL3 ай бұрын
c'mon!
@robertcrist57473 ай бұрын
🤣👍 Always like the show Buddy!
@timmangan66813 ай бұрын
When Goldy leaves next year he will have a great season..Seams to be a pattern..
@michaelallen11543 ай бұрын
Sign Trevor Bauer now!
@user-rh2ru2hz4y3 ай бұрын
Hells hounds are eating well.
@bn28703 ай бұрын
Sell the team! Sell the team!
@bn28703 ай бұрын
That was kind of a joke, but now that I think about it, can someone entice some big spender tycoon to come in and buy the team from the DeWitt’s? This might actually be my new personal campaign.
@davidshowmaker44083 ай бұрын
Marmol is a cancer he doesn’t belong in the majors! Goldschmidt is old, Crawford is old, Arenado is getting old
@turdferguson93733 ай бұрын
Crawford is old AND he’s outta shape. Dude’s gotten paunchy. He’s not a big league SS. He’s a beer league SS.