The Case of the Business Butcher - Shadows of Doubt

[@calastrophe.]

I just had a CRAZY thing happen. I was at an apartment on a stolen item case. I had just arrived to talk to the guy about what was stolen and get fingerprints, etc. I noticed while poking around that the partner of the guy who hired me had some of those diary pages and notes about being stalked laying around. Of course, I was immediately thinking "oh no, this isn't good." Moments later the partner on the other side of the room has words over her head saying "What are you doing?" I turn to look and there's a person right up in her face, and then red is flying. This person came in and killed her right in front of me! I followed them outside and handcuffed them in the stairwell before the "New Murder Case" message even appeared. Quickest case ever. But I felt horrible I wasn't able to do anything to stop it.

[@LauraSti]

I've had that happen, but worse. I was in an apartment I didn't have permission to enter, and someone came in and I couldn't find the vent and she'd locked the door, so I couldn't get out. So I'm doing this crazy desperate in-the-dark please-don't-kill-me version of ring around the rosy trying to figure out where the vent was, and then suddenly the lady chasing me started doing pain dialogue all the way across the room from me. I just kind of crouched there, hoping that whatever was happening would keep her from chasing me, and then she fell. She'd been poisoned. I was playing ring around the rosy with a dead woman and neither of us knew it. That case scarred me, man.

[@bearnuggs]

this is WILD thanks for sharing

[@bearnuggs]

@@LauraStiholy crap that’s horrifying 😭

[@jazzybee_s]

so a couple days ago i was playing, and i was going down the street minding my own business. and i see this lady just absolutely sprinting, so i'm like "thats weird" and i stop her to ask her if she saw anything unusual. she says yeah she saw someone dodgy looking and starts to walk away. then i hear the loudest freaking gunshot ever and the lady just drops and i spend several seconds irl sitting completely still in stunned silence. i also had an enforcer kill someone and then, when asked why, say "if the enforcers won't uphold the law, i will". like my sister in christ thats you

[@VTWam]

I had an enforcer kill too, except she killed 3 PEOPLE, each every 5 mins irl, in the process of me trying to figure out where the hell she was

[@lennonbarbosa5192]

>I had a room in a hotel. It was 801 >After sleeping I decided to talk to a random stranger and asked if they've seen something suspicious >They said there's someone angry at 701 >The moment I got out of conversation, the murder case is announced >The security door was shut and opened short after I arrived >The killer was beaten to the ground by the victim's partner >I arrested her, checked her and she had the weapon >I got her fingerprint from all over the house. >Speedrun complete

[@Venoxium]

1:44:41 That is the sound of a sniper case. I heard it before in my game and they killed the dude in an awkward spot. The case wasn't reported for over 12hrs. But I heard them shoot like 6 times, so must've not been too great of a shot

[@owlgeist]

ok

[@arongann]

I could watch you play this game for hours and hours. The potential is insane.

[@FoxHound0985]

You can do an arrest case, turn it in, and then immediately go back and uncuff them. You get your handcuffs back and they're usually completely cool with it. Thanks for getting me into this game! It's one of my favorites now.

[@alexdh2001]

hey insym!! when the client says they wrote down all the information for you, you can open the job listing and select the "Details" tab next to the "Connections" one to see a transcript of your conversation with them. on other cases this section also gives you a transcription of any phone calls you did to get the job. also! the sync disk for exploring new areas can be better if you choose the vent one but it heavily depends on how many vents generate in a building. i picked up blueprints for one huge apartment building with a lot of vents and got like 3.5k crows.

[@catman6089]

I think it would be so interesting to have extra little businesses where you could find a database of citizens with unique characteristics, like a hair salon / barber shop for hair, optometrist for eye color, tax office for income / job, etc also, more distinguishing features for citizens would be nice too, like favorite restaurants (check a business ledger for frequent customers), hobbies (someone who likes nature will be standing near parks), or even some kind of tattoo / scar feature (like how some citizens have a bionic arm). they could also have hobbies listed like painter, musician, gamer, and then their apartment would have corresponding decor I 100% agree when you say this game has the potential to be one of the best games ever made, there is just limitless possibilities depending on how far the devs take this idea! love these videos ❤

[@Skeleton52925]

The hobby idea is actually in the game, if somebody likes chess for example they will have a chess board in their house

[@Funtime2UwU]

OMG YOU'RE SUCH A GENIUS, YES! I'd love to see those too!! I think the hobby feature is kinda half implemented because some citizens have painting tools and chess boards at their house, but the shop feature is GREAT for all of the useless info that you can't search!

[@wiredDeath]

To complete the trash part of the case, it will only count when you use the bags of trash that are next to dumpsters

[@melissamonge4461]

It works if you throw food from the fridge too, I've used synth beef and it works

[@sharingheart13]

Every time you submit a printed email as evidence, it fails. I think the game is just not programmed to accept emails as evidence.

[@jessschwarze8126]

Yeah it’s annoying it 100% should

[@DemonicSmurfette]

I suspect emails are categorised as information instead of evidence. It's not too difficult to find the poem/flowers so it's not an issue for people who know the quirks of the game but it's definitely something that the game should make clear to new players.

[@highelo4359]

Because ppl can create disposable email

[@barcoded-babexo]

and & it says on the poster, some of them at least that emails are valid to be used as evidence though LOL

[@CilantroGamer]

It would be so cool if you could actually buy an use an office. You could maybe go there and choose a special 'pass time' option and it would generate a case for you when a person walked through the door. I really hope they don't just add more case types, but also add more immersive things to make the simulation part that much cooler.

[@NIKSEEN]

I actually did buy a 1-bedroom apartment in my first city to use as an office. It looked really cool and I could hand in cases there because of the tray you can buy but otherwise it was a bit useless. I wish people could call you or something to offer a case

[@TLSandrock]

Firstly I adore this series, i bought this game ages back and was too intimidated to play it until watching your vids and now i am so addicted. Thanks! I dunno if anyone has mentioned it, but when you hold tab while moving it pops up a little city map tracked to your character (the level of zoom matches your map on case board screen), it's really helpful when going through air vents, especially if you've already grabbed the blueprints. Also the cameras and people can't see you if the lights are off, unless you have your flashlight on. If the little circle is only an outline you're hidden. *edit cause I accidentally hit send before finished typing lol*

[@dracaesilverwing9561]

I had paused and zoomed on your map at one point and I was SCREAMING about the chemical plant hahaha I'm so glad you found it!! Yes, you can have multiple plants. Factories and chemical plants are considered separate building types but both are considered industrial!

[@samwisegamzy]

if you do a new campaign just a little thing you can do that i thought was fun: 1. at the start turn off murder cases 2. give yourself 0$ 3. 0 lockpicks it's interesting starting with 0 cash, you literally have to bum off of people to make a phone call for you first case. You could also do those mini cases where you have to find a lost item in apartments that give 30$. with 0 lock picks you'll have to break down doors or pick a case where you don't have to break in anywhere. early game is the most fun part of the game tbh so anything that makes it last longer is better. once you have ur foot in the door metaphorically you turn on murder cases. As if by lore your character feels up to the challenge of it now.

[@patonnight]

23:20 that briefcase had money in it, even if it was meant to be destroyed. Interesting.

[@aliakseiyukho2554]

Insym, when you have a task to cause vandalism using trash, it means you should throw something like food remains (like something that is left after you drink coffee or eat a burger)

[@novice7418]

Just got back from working then doing grocery shopping and come home to Insym being a detective of chaos

[@Th3_a_g4m3]

A fellow nightshifter I presume

[@Embarrassed_Book_8584]

Not even done binging the older playlists and there's even more content to watch! Some days I'm busier with work/study so watching these really helps me scratch my itch.

[@Vexurayr]

Completed a sniper case today, could only locate the killer using the ledger of the underground gun business. When asked, their reasoning for murder was pretty meaningless, just a "Cleaning up the streets," but seeing the notes around his kitchen was fascinating. Detailed documents tracking the movement and actions of two different people, plus an award from the special police service for distinguished marksmanship. That kind of history is really cool to see.

[@calastrophe.]

Insym went a little bonkers at the end haha. Mysni villain arc. Please keep these episodes coming!!

[@SuperS0ul]

Got into this game because of you, and the first murder case I managed to solve yesterday was also titled The Business Butcher, which is a funny coincidence.

[@IXPStaticI]

Door wedges are almost as OP as kicking the door in someone's face. Lock the inhabitants in a bathroom and you get full access to the apartment almost for free. Even better because no one will sound the alarm. And its even reusable if you pick it back up before they manage to break open the door.

[@Max-jq2ju]

1:00:00 Yeah I got the version were they just give you a picture of a random place in the city where a briefcase is hidden. For me it was actually more common than the other options. One time the picture wasnt rendered properly, so it was almost impossible to find the location...

[@chromium_ink]

Maybe the next run could have the following rules?: 1. No stealing. 2. No breaking down doors. 3. No knocking people out. 4. No illegal activity (like handcuffing innocent people or trespassing except on murder scenes; alternatively this could also be enforced on murder scenes). 5. No beauty disk. It makes gathering information and cooperation way too easy- These rules made the game a LOT harder for me. ; )

[@anondecepticon]

51:41 My first case was a theft where the perpetrator was the partner. Here I am going from room to room gathering every scrap of information like an overzealous noob, only to find the stolen item sitting on the kitchen counter with the partner’s fingerprint on it. The file updates to label the unidentified prints I took off the safe with the partner’s name. I opted not to “cause $900 damage to perp’s apartment by breaking their windows” for obvious reasons. 😅

[@MrSeligas]

57:46 Technically throwing the can around isn't putting trash in the room. It's the same type of vandalism as the tea kettle. You would have needed to go out onto the street and picked up crumbpled cans or napkins or something off the street and dumped them on the floor.

[@caffeinefiend3720]

Ah yes, my favourite serialized crime drama: "Insym Plays Shadows of Doubt". :D

[@menacingjack]

I'm literally watching the third part of this series right now, great timing, watching this one immediately after!

[@settsu7836]

Nah I want this series to feed me for a while to come don't end it please! I cant really play the game cause it doesn't run that well for me and so this is a way for me to enjoy this game!

[@Jaymacks1234]

I used to play this game a lot during your first twitch play through, but i stopped and now i’m back into it, so i’m now happy. also, a quick tip i’ve learnt from playing, before you buy an apartment, you can break into it to see if it’s good and how you will organise it

[@NoeDactyl]

I don't have the game and I was actually wondering if you can do this, thank you!

[@AlexTheSkjegg]

1:44:41 that was definitely in the game! Probably a murder somewhere. You can "discover" the murder and start it before anyone reports it by inspecting the corpse as you normally would!

[@koquarian]

The biggest apartments are the single room mega suites at the top of the standard apartments. They're around like 35k and the one I got in my first playthrough had a massive L shaped living room/dining room, a big kitchen, 1 bathroom, a huge bedroom with an office en suite. Unfortunately the decoration tech was really jank back then, so it basically had a bed, a phone, a case tray, a shower, and a couple vending machines. 😅

[@Hughsie28]

I found a tip when I was playing - If you enter a business and they have no pictures on the wall, every single business has one of 4 items: 1) Stack of papers (use scroll wheel to inspect each one) of employee files (faces/fingerprints) (found in drawers, cabinets or on surfaces/shelves) 2) A filing cabinet or box with employee files 3) A pin board with faces/names 4) A PC with a list of employeese (if you did "[space] A-Z" to search by all surnames depending on how patient you are)

[@BradleyHeat]

Pro Tip: if you are being pursued, you can enter the elevator. You are the only person who can enter an elevator and you become completely invisible to everyone while inside. Your pursuers will act like they lost you. It feels like a cheap exploit so I can understand not wanting to use it but it can be very useful when escaping someone shooting at you.

[@robinroekens5653]

Discovered that if someone leaves their cruncher on, you can get their password in their profile without having to look around. It'll often happen in companies.

[@jessschwarze8126]

Yep it’s super handy!

[@AstralGremlin]

Got my food looking for something to watch, went to rewatch last Shadows of Doubt video. Surprise Pikachu face when new video was uploaded. Pogchamp

[@hana_re]

i love how u can see when Insym completely enjoys the game that he is recording tho, love to see more of this game myself too

[@patfre]

Another good tip is that for phones and computers you can actually use your keyboard to input things. For phones it works fine but computers are a bit buggy where sometimes it works just fine however I have noticed that when looking away from the computer (normally cancels input from keyboard) it still inputs another thing is sometimes when pressing hotkeys it will still activate them even though your looking at the computer. Which is just minor things they need to fix other than that it works just fine

[@michaelfanton205]

So far from what I've encountered while playing, the factory is absolutely the most dangerous place in the game. Lots of security cameras with guns and almost all of the employees have guns. I got lost in there once and it was hell getting out. Even when I went up a floor or two to the office areas of the factory building, you're still trespassing in every room.

[@bellzhellz5922]

I believe for the "throw trash" in apartment you need one of the garbage bags from the street, not the trashcan. The game is a little finnicky on what ticks the trash the apartment box.

[@n1njat0rak47]

1:44:40 that was what it sounds like when the sniper killer actually dose the kill

[@jelly_witheredrose8864]

I absolutely love watching you play this game, can't wait for more! Last episode was really insane.

[@lawlietgaming9621]

If you dont know camera footage only last for last 2 days. And always take finger print on the job before u take it. It comes handly lot of time knowing who posted the case

[@jessschwarze8126]

Omg I actually never thought of this🤯

[@PantheraWolf]

Was hoping you'd upload some more Shadows of Doubt today! Super happy you did!

[@alexdh2001]

i had one of those love-themed murders where the killer ended up being the janitor in the building where the victim lived. the time of death was during the work shift so i thought the janitor's alibi for being on the security footage was airtight. once i solved it i noticed the killer was the second name from the top in the victim's partner's part of the address book, so it made for an interesting after-the-fact story reveal, like the victim's partner and the killer were best friends once before he chose murder.

[@real0hcruelfate]

Also, every time you have a stalking murder case (i.e. when you find "it's just your mind, take the pills" notes everywhere or something like that) always look underneath their bed, sort of towards the top of the bed. 9 times out of 10, there's a diary/journal there that can have different entires that give info on the killer or just contains dialogue from the victim that makes the cases feel more personal and realistic!

[@kitglitch]

Yes please, all the series! I can't get enough of this game. I've played it for so many hours as well. Love it!

[@yanmarcus6128]

That "it's f*cking one of yus, digustang" Cracked me up so bad

[@jessschwarze8126]

23:20 you can see this briefcase had money in it not a bomb! So it doesn’t look like they only get you to throw bombs in the ocean. Also I wonder if the amount in the briefcase changes?

[@Splxyl]

I think for the trash around 58:00 (not exact) you need to open it and put the trash in there, the stuff spread was extra effects I'm pretty sure

[@antiwolfer8691]

a smart person would go to the street vendors and figure out whos spouse is a safety officer, work backwards

[@Insym]

There are like 50 street vendors. But only like 3 safety officers. Clearly this is a better strategy.

[@packmaster6249]

Insym, you've gotta recommend character classes to the devs. All of the sync discs should still be available to every class, but you could have very specialized detectives. Like a super stealthy sleuth or a really intelligent tech head.

[@bambusak_]

1:41:18 POV: You are just a normal citizen and Insym is trying to solve a case. (Insym turned into a NPC and new player has joined the world)

[@neat24]

this game has to be my favorite series from you! all 3 seasons 😂

[@shinyfirefly5034]

I don't know if this works, per se, but there's sometimes a note on a table in the diner that says 'Book club sign up' or 'Book club meets here' but I've never seen a time/date on them. I think it might be possible to actually see these clubs meeting, though it might not be fully implemented yet.

[@ks-sq4jy]

Your apartment is sick! You definitely deserve it for your hard work! I love this game and watching you play it, waiting for new series:)

[@lizzrds22]

I love these videos and I've really been enjoying this game in particular for off-stream recordings! It's fun to watch you deduce everything on your own!!

[@powderedaura2656]

In the medical field, syringes are weapons, like scaples and other stuff. The reason why they're classified as such is because of particularly violent cases or suicidal patients.

[@falconawesome]

Tip for the address book! I also had a case where the person and their partner had the same handwriting. And I thought about it and realized you could start at one end, and then go to a house and check the OTHER person's address book and that will tell you which partner they know. Then you can just continue from the correct end (front or back). So far I've had it be accurate and the other person always has the right partner in their address book

[@joshanmarcusyuanregencia345]

I only discovered you last night through this game but now you got me hooked. I was so bummed out a few hours ago when I finished your latest episode of this series cuz I thought I was gonna have to wait a while but it looks like I got lucky lol, keep it up

[@AlexTheSkjegg]

You need to add a Hi-fi system to your apartment so you can chill with some appropriate music in your apartment

[@Hollyhocky]

58:00 I think the bug happens because you try to cause vandalism before putting a stolen item into the mail box. Not sure if it counts if you do the things in order though.

[@h2oQueen]

This series is my new addiction! I can’t wait for more game updates and further episodes. I would love to know the complexities behind the coding. Man this game is so much fun especially since you are playing it!

[@AriSheeran]

Ohhh my god lol right at 2:02:00 has me genuinely laughing, never seen someone go flying from being hit lol

[@Egg.gineer]

I love Detectivesym. This series could go on forever and I’d watch every video.

[@DracoSuave]

So let's say they give you a case where theyonly give you a fingerprint. You also have the address of the place you're supposed to drop the photo off. In those siituations, you can investigate the client, and that is your intended lead. The client is always connected somehow to the target.

[@Hollyhocky]

1:56:00 If you take the document it breaks the case for it, sadly. What I can recommend is to right click on a document and pin it to your case board, so it will add to the database. When you get a case to find the document in the future, you can search in your database for the documents you had found before. It will say where you've seen them in the "connections".

[@Hjuchia]

you can use the numpad too to type in passwords and phone numbers. but it is only just faster, and you need to accept the fact that you might check your watch and scanner in the middle of typing in passwords :D

[@oldmanmarsh2528]

1:52:00 In one of those places I managed to get into the locked door by knocking. The receptionist nicely went over and eventually unlocked it for me, because the AI for door knocks is hilariously simple. You can do the same with enforcers to make them aggressively knock and shout at the locked door.

[@MrM4rcYT]

When you know where someone lives, and dont want to chase them around the city or risk beeing pursued, you can use a picture of them from the surveillance cameras as well

[@NoeDactyl]

This is good advice 😮

[@jinn5666]

I literally just wait for you to drop a shadows of doubt video.....I even started watching all the previous episodes 3RD TIME THIS WEEK already......just Love your gameplaysss💓💓

[@jamila0019]

When they update their dialogues and scripts, I hope they don't change the "Hair Hair" part.

[@VTWam]

I hope it stays as an easter egg or something, it's so stupid it's funny

[@totallynotprom1036]

I would totally watch another series of this if you make another! I just picked up the game. I'm falling in love with it :)

[@thatguyc4700]

I love this game, I discovered because of your first stream of the game and get it myself is so good I'm loving this series

[@ZoroIsGone]

Lets goo! More shadows of doubt!

[@ruffunity6938]

Didn't think I would enjoy videos about this kind of game , found that I do enjoy them and am considering getting the game on the future

[@BenOnYoutubeZBOYZ]

1:37:30 Famous last words, I bet I could survive a fall from this height.

[@yebo3061]

I would be all in for another "season" of shadows of doubt, these are my favorite videos to watch and honestly my favorite game as of late!

[@ShockedCaucasian]

What a great start to my morning before work! Love watching you play this game :)

[@M.Ochasan]

1:44:40 i dont know but this so close to get sniper murder case which you haven't got it yet

[@V00doo1Xim]

i thought he had already got a sniper case?

[@Barooth100]

the funniest case so far was me just having the absolute general description from stalker mails (average average short, blonde) and a fingerprint, so my first guess was just going up to the camera room and check cams, so i went in there, PC was off so i was looking for the code, was skimming the files in the cabinet to maybe find something and found out instantly, that it was the buildings security guard

[@EnderDamat]

They should add murder cases where the Murderer has an accomplice and you must identify both of them, could be something optional but it would be nice having to look for two people for murder cases

[@factory6636]

I recently had a case that had me destroy a briefcase with money in it. So probably it's all just random? Love the series Insym :)

[@sappychan]

I'd love to see a few more episodes, put the perks you've gained along the way to good use!

[@dher-pv5qs]

Love this series and the game itself!. Something I learn lately is that for cheating case, it will count evidence for the notes found in the bouquet. I had my case with multiple v-mail but wasn't getting it correct until I had more case and selected the notes instead. Hopefully it gets fixed in the future or not lol

[@kamilo2222]

even funnier murder case i had was when i get to the crime scene and there was a cop and a guy that was RED from blood. and he was just casualy walking around. And surprise surprise he was the killer :V

[@kikushiki643]

YES! i was waiting for this, THANKS INSYM, love this series

[@Seelecon]

55:42 Look at the potential fines... 😮

[@bethanyk7475]

You gotta throw trash bags from outside. Totally trashes apartment.

[@jessschwarze8126]

That’s what I was thinking cause technically it’s just a trash can, not actual trash. Which is silly

[@fakesovl5030]

YAAAY new episode, so happy!!!

[@MrBlowJoey]

It's so cozy watching you playing this game. Nice to stay in bed and watch. Love the length too. Could be 24 hours long for my taste :)

[@D3ADSH0T20]

I was so bored but when i saw this video I was so happy

[@iratezebra1]

Something else to note regarding the tips at the beginning, I discovered that you can use the numpad to input codes, so you don't have to click each individual number!

[@jessschwarze8126]

Yes I also mentioned this! Super handy

[@real0hcruelfate]

I recently learned by playing this game that you can technically own and decorate as many apartments as you want -- so I'm currently trying to own every apartment and decorate them all differently. I have one main apartment which is on the 18th floor, and then own 3 different smaller ones right now where I've made lounges, cafe's, detectives hideouts, etc. In order to make the late game more interesting, I've been playing with a self imposed challenge where I try to treat the murder cases like real detective's cases, and not turn them in until I've exhausted every lead/found the most damning evidence possible, and come up with a possible motive. In my most recent murder case, I was able to figure out who it was pretty quickly based on stalking notes found at the crime scene. It was one of their coworkers. But based on v-mails alone, I couldn't figure out why the killer would want to murder them. So I go to the workplace, and find a probation notice on the suspect's desk -- they were under threat of being fired. Then I go to the killer's place and start tearing the place apart, and I find a piece of paper by their bedside. It's a diary entry that literally explained how they killed the person, and what they said to each other, and how it was all because the victim was outperforming them at their job. This must be new because in my nearly 500 hours of playing this game, I've never seen a confession letter like that! So you should definitely investigate killers as much as you can before you arrest them -- check out their place of work and fully tear apart their home. I've found so many cool new story-rich things that make the murder cases so much more realistic.

[@ShadowOmens122]

Yay more episodes! Every time I watch these I have to go play myself 😅

[@misskitiefantastico]

It’s worth noting that killers have to leave the crime scene. I was going up the stairs and a person was leaving so I pinned them to the case to check later and they matched the killer profile exactly! I was so proud!

[@swizzler]

I think a board of employee photos that would make more sense to have their fingerprints on would be an in/out board, where the fingerprint wouldn't be on the photo, but the in/out token they'd move when they leave.

[@V2K.04]

Ty for the video ☺️ I really love this game, I picked it up because of you ! 💙

[@valhatan3907]

This game need to utilize stuffs outside solving the crime when they even care to implemented those, like eating, drinking, and decorating the apartment. Ability to buy and put decoration where you can see your investigation cardboard in display would be really cool.

[@scroew1201]

You can sell the briefcases at pawnbrokers or from your home and they sell for 50c

[@jessschwarze8126]

That’s so funny