The Cedarstrip Canoe - What You Should Know Before Buying or Building a Cedar Strip Canoe

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@frankie1956
@frankie1956 7 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video , l did watch the series of videos on your cedar strip canoe build which was brilliant. Thank you Jason for sharing this fantastic insight into the cedar strip canoe 👍👍👍
@TrailguidePictures
@TrailguidePictures 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment. :)
@davidmartin5179
@davidmartin5179 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 54 years old and have wanted to build a cedar strip canoe since I was 15 or 16. I’ve enjoyed watching your videos. I’m gonna do it. Great work and inspiration on your builds and videos.
@NivaldoThimoteo
@NivaldoThimoteo 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Brazilian and I thought your canoe was fantastic, congratulations, I wish I could have one made by my hands and as beautiful as this work of art!!!
@TrailguidePictures
@TrailguidePictures 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@stevenlarose7325
@stevenlarose7325 4 жыл бұрын
I must say watching these videos has made me "not so intimidated". I have been watching your videos since about 9am yesterday.. I am not a novice in woodworking but when it comes to strip canoe/kayak building I was intimidated mostly by the fiberglass and lofting ( I have never worked with it before) we never used it in Cabinetmaking.. Everything else I pretty much have done, just in a different form.. So THANK YOU..
@pheebelikes3500
@pheebelikes3500 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful craftsmanship. I love your paddle sticks on the wall. Nice collection.
@rogberube6422
@rogberube6422 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, Jason.
@nickjan67
@nickjan67 6 жыл бұрын
It's been said multiple times, but let me repeat: a well-made and informative introductory film to the cedar strip canoe. You have inspired me to complete my own cedar strip canoe still on the strongback. Looking forward to a launch this June!
@TrailguidePictures
@TrailguidePictures 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you... and yes, get back to it! They look much better in the water than on the strongback.
@bradleyjohnson452
@bradleyjohnson452 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos. This gives me hope to be able to construct my own someday. I found this very relaxing although I am sure at times it is stressful. You make the process look forgiving. I always thought I needed the skills of a master craftsman and a little magic.
@TrailguidePictures
@TrailguidePictures 5 жыл бұрын
They are easier to build than most would think (but don't tell anyone - makes me look skillful).
@scotyfilms
@scotyfilms 5 жыл бұрын
I still have a 1970 Lakefield cedar strip varnish tripping canoe. In my youth I raced that canoe and won everything my a mile. The canoe is also very durable. I scraped numerous class two water rocks numerous times and it survived very well. I think the oak ribs spaced every 2 inches on centre had a lot to do with this. The canoe still hangs in my shop and is used for a couple of weeks every year.
@SomeStrangemysterious
@SomeStrangemysterious 5 жыл бұрын
Sea Eagle 380x Inflatable kayak is the way to go! 35 pounds. Stability and durability is unreal. Inflates in less than 10 min and packs down to fit into your trunk or rear hatch.
@null2470
@null2470 5 жыл бұрын
What a soulless pushbutton alternative.
@bertschoneveld9835
@bertschoneveld9835 6 жыл бұрын
Super video and a good explanation off with is important to make one, thanks Jason
@syedali-kr1fj
@syedali-kr1fj 4 жыл бұрын
The best tutorial among all. Thank you for sharing with us.
@JoeOsChannel
@JoeOsChannel 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video Jason. Enjoyed watching this one over a couple glasses of wine at the end of my work day here in my woodshop. I build canoe and kayak paddles full time that I ship throughout North America, Europe, Australia etc. Really enjoyed watching this. Got the original forms here in my shop for a 14' Prospector solo canoe. They were used for building the plug to make the mold for the composite Clipper Canoes Prospector 14. Designed and built by a very good friend of mine who passed away a few years ago.
@TrailguidePictures
@TrailguidePictures 6 жыл бұрын
A Prospector 14 eh? Nice. I'd love to build and paddle one of those.
@avit719
@avit719 6 жыл бұрын
Somehow made stapling emotional
@alphonsobailey7260
@alphonsobailey7260 5 жыл бұрын
It's a proper built Canoe.. congratulations. .
@davidr.massey419
@davidr.massey419 6 жыл бұрын
Your workshop is organized, and the instruction is right on. Nice work! I have been building strip canoes(along with patternmakers foam boats, and some unheard of build materials) now for 53yrs. Do my own full size marine achetecture( on rolls fo tempate paper) with complete old school, on hands and neehs, water lines crossing form lines. Info measurements from point plotting fills a 2ft. x2ft. jammed up form by form table of measurements from which each form is draftmans tooled to finish grade plywood forms. If you would like to see some "Etreame Canoe building" plug Extreame Canoe building in your searchbar. Doing linear Balsa core( coped not bent, 1/2" sanded to 3/8"), on the slickest set-up you will ever see. Using vac bagged supper thin linearly applied Ziricote and Spalted Chen Chen. Will cover with 7oz. fiberglass outside&4oz. inside,using System3 epoxy in 4 or 5 layers. See first of 3 vids( so far) called "001 Dave Massey Masterbuilder, Canoes, Kayaks, Paddlecraft"
@kennethwagner3866
@kennethwagner3866 5 жыл бұрын
Love your video you do great work and explain everything well
@TheVinny360
@TheVinny360 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing what a lil time an craftsmanship can do, o an I love sanding it’s the best part awesome video an commentary loved it
@jimdent351
@jimdent351 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome documentary Jason. Your daughter needs to be commended too for her videography.
@TrailguidePictures
@TrailguidePictures 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I've passed on the compliment to her. I agree, she did a great job.
@janusnri56
@janusnri56 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work, sir! Cheers from France
@noahsgamingnow8435
@noahsgamingnow8435 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome canoe video. Looking forward to more
@daverdking11
@daverdking11 6 жыл бұрын
This was very interesting to watch! Thank you for your video.
@TrailguidePictures
@TrailguidePictures 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@simonablokeinthewoods
@simonablokeinthewoods 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason - a lovely video! I was inspired to make my own cedar strip canoe by your other series, and it is a joy to paddle!! I used plans from Gil Gilpatricks book, but built it based on your advise and methods. I totally agree about the functional rigidity - she’s a fast boat and glides through the water with minimum effort. Unfortunately I cracked the fibreglass on the outer hull, going over a small weir here in the UK, the stress at the tipping point was just too much! - a stupid mistake on my part and a lesson learnt! It’s not a play-boat!! The crack is small and along the grain of the strips, so I can repair it easily enough - and that’s the other great thing about cedar strip canoes - you can repair them if needed! Thanks again Jason - really enjoy your work! Cheers from the rivers of England! Simon.
@TrailguidePictures
@TrailguidePictures 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Simon, Thanks for the kind words. Crap news about your canoe but yeah, sounds like you can fix her up easy enough. I've had a few mishaps over the years and have always been surprised at how well a strip boat can be repaired. Thanks again
@David-pk9be
@David-pk9be 6 жыл бұрын
Nice vid, beautiful build and great looking boat
@RetrieverTrainingAlone
@RetrieverTrainingAlone 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 12 foot crack in my 1989 16 foot cedar strip. Should I repair by belt sanding and then epoxy a new sheet of fiberglass cloth over the bottom hull?
@edwardcolley7226
@edwardcolley7226 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice 👍
@BlackWarriorLures
@BlackWarriorLures 6 жыл бұрын
nice! If I had the time. money and facilities, I'd build a Grand Laker Stream canoe.
@jeffclyma5274
@jeffclyma5274 4 жыл бұрын
Curios about the plans you used and performance? Did you make you own plans or are they available for after your Algonquin trip how do you feel about the performance? does it balance with no weight from gear like a trip fishing on a local lake?
@TrailguidePictures
@TrailguidePictures 4 жыл бұрын
I love this boat. If anything I would perhaps design it a little bit narrower to get a bit more speed from her, but as a tripping/fishing/photography boat she is ideal. Yes, due to the short length and seat position there is a good balance. Sorry no plans are available.
@MrWheelieMan
@MrWheelieMan 5 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to build this with cheaper pine wood?
@b767greg
@b767greg 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you for sharing, makes me think as a life long woodworker I can do this. Very inspiring! Do you sell plans for this canoe?
@putitondummie
@putitondummie 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever had the fiberglass/epoxy separate from the cedar after using canoe,
@kcricrac
@kcricrac 6 жыл бұрын
Very very nice budy
@johnjbish
@johnjbish 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's been covered, but is there a particular reason why fiberglass goes on the outside first and then the inside- and not vise versa? Thanks for the video
@TrailguidePictures
@TrailguidePictures 6 жыл бұрын
Yes. The canoe is built upside down on the building forms, so applying the fiberglass to the outside of the hull is the only option. Once the fiberglass is applied the canoe is rigid and strong enough to lift off the building forms. Then the glass is applied to the inside.
@kinniguy
@kinniguy 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for doing. What kind of wood filler do you use?
@TrailguidePictures
@TrailguidePictures 7 жыл бұрын
For cedar strip canoes I usually use epoxy thickened with wood flour. I've used wood filler in the past on wooden canoes but prefer the thickened epoxy.
@wdwrxco
@wdwrxco 5 жыл бұрын
I am seriously beginning to contemplate tackling making one of these, it's what brought me here, today. What are rough material costs to make one of there? A high end canoe runs about $2500 CDN. (roughly $2k USD). Is is comparable?
@hutchinsonsadventures4678
@hutchinsonsadventures4678 6 жыл бұрын
Great video.. I would love to build my own.. Would this method apply to building a one man Cedarstrip Canoe? Cheers Kev.
@TrailguidePictures
@TrailguidePictures 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, definitely. There are a few different ways to build a woodstrip canoe but they are all very similar.
@hutchinsonsadventures4678
@hutchinsonsadventures4678 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reply Jason. I will check them out. Cheers Kev
@midnightclub2972
@midnightclub2972 6 жыл бұрын
which length have the rafters?
@BlackWarriorLures
@BlackWarriorLures 6 жыл бұрын
What did they use before fiberglass and epoxy were invented?
@TrailguidePictures
@TrailguidePictures 6 жыл бұрын
Well there have been many different technologies used for canoe building including a tongue and groove style planking, ship lapped planking and canvas covered planking. Thanks for watching.
@TheSoloAsylum
@TheSoloAsylum 6 жыл бұрын
tight joints, and water swelling
@stevenlarose7325
@stevenlarose7325 4 жыл бұрын
Pine pitch and lots and lots of buckets
@WhereintheWorldisJosh
@WhereintheWorldisJosh 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome. This was a stemless build? I see your other videos on Cedar Strips but those seem to have a stem.
@TrailguidePictures
@TrailguidePictures 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh, Yes, I believe that cedar strip canoe was a stemless build. I'm leaning more towards stemless these days for most builds as it eliminates a bit of the process. The only issue I've found with building a stemless canoe is that its a bit more tricky to get the fiberglass cloth to wrap around the tight angle of the bow and stern. There's also a definite need to lay up a few layers of cloth at the ends to make it a bit more robust since there's no hardwood behind the glass. Thanks for the comment.
@nextcrispy
@nextcrispy 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason, i have finished my Caeder strip canoe he came out very nice. I was very inspired by the instruction films you have put in KZbin. Only the bottom feels a little thin I can see the water moving under neath the canoe is this normal? Did I make him to thin?
@TrailguidePictures
@TrailguidePictures 6 жыл бұрын
That is strange that you can see the water moving. But if you've sat in it and paddled and it worked I would say it is not too thin. Just be careful of rocks etc. You may want to add another layer of fibreglass.
@nextcrispy
@nextcrispy 6 жыл бұрын
Jason Eke , thanks, I will think about it. I am living in the Netherlands so rocks won’t be my problem we have none. It is just a bit scary to step on it.
@criartes3775
@criartes3775 6 жыл бұрын
Excelente trabalho, teria como você disponibilizar as medidas da canoa?
@markwiersma9300
@markwiersma9300 6 жыл бұрын
I am building a prospector but how to place the first strip. it should be place on the shear line but on images I see that this is not going to the top of the stern, it's kind of running parallel with the waterline. Why not bend it a bit , so fully following the shearline?
@TrailguidePictures
@TrailguidePictures 6 жыл бұрын
I've found it more easier to plank a canoe by running the strips in a straight line as well (to me anyhow) the strips look better when finished. You absolutely could bend them a bit if you wanted to, but I think you'll find the compound curves at the stems become a bit difficult later on.
@beaconflix6390
@beaconflix6390 4 жыл бұрын
Got canoes for sale?
@621littleta
@621littleta 6 жыл бұрын
How many coats of epoxy are you laying down over the fiberglass?
@TrailguidePictures
@TrailguidePictures 6 жыл бұрын
It depends on the build, how many layers of fiberglass and how the previous coat of epoxy went on. Usually the first coat saturates the cloth but leaves the weave of the fabric visible and a rough texture. A second coat of epoxy then fills the weave and is usually enough. The main thing is that you want the weave of the fiberglass to be full and a relatively smooth coat of epoxy. Later when sanding the hull (before varnishing) you want to sand only epoxy and not the fiberglass cloth underneath. So, if the weave is still showing and you can feel it then likely when you sand you will sand the cloth too. Hope that helps.
@621littleta
@621littleta 6 жыл бұрын
ok! Thank you Jason
@georgecuyler7563
@georgecuyler7563 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative, usually these videos just show a guy doing it with music over dubbed and they don't explain a thing.
@TrailguidePictures
@TrailguidePictures 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@ErniePantuso
@ErniePantuso 6 жыл бұрын
Old school cabinetmaker here. Planing two pack woodfiller = cringeworthy for my tools.
@stevenlarose7325
@stevenlarose7325 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing... And using a Chisel to remove staples?.. I know the time it takes to sharpen both when either has a "NICK"..
@GuitarraLisboa1977
@GuitarraLisboa1977 7 жыл бұрын
ahhhhh ....You jumb all the main part.. ball cheat
@paulmeyer8463
@paulmeyer8463 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video. I watched this before and during my build. Just finished my first and can't wait for the next one!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXSWdZedr6qrars
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