The Chainsaw Man Problem

[@JinxsFishbones]

Hardest thing about being a CSM fan is being a Makima fan without people thinking you're just simping for her

[@mangaaddict3056]

She's a good villainess, fucking hate her simps though.

[@RedLogicYT]

Hardest thing about CSM is I'm hard 🗿

[@bazie9469]

Don't worry man. Makima it's still perfect character❤

[@JustCookieHead]

Embrace the makima simping

[@WeebGuru6]

If u like her as a villain I will not clown her but I hate her with a passion and that’s a good thinng

[@Intothefunko]

Man brother I read CSM part one weekly from like 10 on, so in regards to your first part even as a weekly reader it just hit differently. I was so excited to see what happened next, it was crazy fun and exciting. Everything you said is spot on, i feel im forcing myself to read pt2 at times just cause im so invested. Still praying it builds to something and pays off in a big way.

[@vectorbarreiro4632]

Same, I began reading chainsaw since the beginning of the Bat Devil arc and I enjoyed it from beginning to end. I don’t feel the same with Part 2 I enjoyed the first half of the first arc until Fakesawman appeared, to me the story took a deep dive until the falling devil arc which was kinda cool. Nowadays I feel that the story doesn’t have a clear objective like part one had with the Gun Devil. I’ll keep reading it but if a part three happens I probably won’t be reading it.

[@cedricspencer720]

Fujimoto completely changed the formula, its not bad per say but not what we expected

[@UltraIDDQD6DOOM]

I feel like the problem is that a lot of people read it for A fast-paced series. Part 2 is much slower so that's why so many people are hating. I don't really mind though since I'm okay with fast or slow pacing if it's good, which I think CSM is very good.

[@derodomtommy3716]

but compare the formula to anything else literary or manga

[@villain9482]

​@@UltraIDDQD6DOOM I truly don't get the hate. Like these are the same people who love one piece and what not so idk HOW they're hating.

[@erenyeager6210]

@@villain9482 basically they want it to be like part 1 fast paced action packed shit

[@tee-p6f]

part 2 is setting up asa/yoru and denji for fami and the death devil. we still dont know alot about both of them and we still dont even know fake chainsaw man. the direction is more focused on their character than anything because of this. denji is being torn apart again slowly bc it feels more natural and i like that better than just jumping the gun.

[@bubbajoe117]

Yeah okay but we have like 32 chapters left and we still haven't even acknowledged the Fakesaw-Man, let alone everything else Makima was talking about at the end of part 1, at the rate things are going I halfway expect to spend the rest of the story waffling about until the final chapter and the final panel is just "the death devil shows up and everyone dies the end"

[@epicanime009]

@@bubbajoe11732 chapters left? That confirmed?

[@alextherulaa]

@@bubbajoe117who told u there were 32 chapters left 😭

[@globurim]

@@bubbajoe117 this is just pure assumption tho because you compared it to part 1's chapter count. Also we're still not considering it having a part 3

[@xcxmafai]

Bro there’s been 70+ chapters and part 2 has been going on longer than a year and your still saying YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THE MAIN CHARACTER THATS A BAD SIGN 😂😂😂

[@cloudbloom]

I think part two would feel more coherent upon a full readthrough as opposed to reading a new chapter every week. However i agree that it's a huge shift from part one in many aspects

[@kryterseretgwrf9823]

Reading ongoings sucks.

[@aria7571]

yea, he's said in interview that's literally the reason he specifically calling it "part two" , because he wanted readers to see it as different things.

[@Wyrm7774]

We can't keep giving mangas this excuse, they're written specifically to be weekly

[@xomi9722]

​@@Wyrm7774 they're written to be in fucking books

[@UltraIDDQD6DOOM]

THIS. I feel like the reason so many people are hating on it is because they're reading it weekly and it's much slower. Part 2 is definitely way better if you read it all together. Like bro I keep taking breaks for weeks on end and every time I binge 10 chapters in a row it's so much better.

[@NinthShinigami]

I think Part 2 has been solid for the most part, Asa has been interesting enough and I think what Fujimoto has been trying to explore with Denji is fun too. At this stage in Part 1 tho, I was definitely getting more out of the series and characters, and while we’ve yet to see it, I’m hoping Fujimoto does cook in the end. I’d defend Part 2 and the funny thing is I’m not even a big Chainsaw Man fan lol

[@sirnonsense5033]

I realized I love Asa when we got the focus back to denji and I realized I wanted more of her as well. I think the problem is that we aren’t at the same stage as part 1 yet. We may have the same chapter count but fujimoto is taking his time with this more so we will probably take more time to get there. I expect part 2 to be longer in chapter count.

[@kyero8724]

Well you're not a Incel like the KZbinr.

[@villain9482]

Exactly. I really don't get what his problem is. Especially when he mentioned the train scene. It just seems like he wants to see some edge. Idk man. I thought Part 2 has been sick so far

[@dynaspir1492]

One thing that's not talked about enough, is in the interview before Part 2 began serialization Fujimoto had stated that Part 2 was inspired by this movie had watched called Green Grass roads, which had audiences confused because the main villain was defeated early and the cast were doing random things that made no sense whatever and felt aimless, until the last stretch or ACT III.

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

I couldn't find that movie anywhere

[@YaBoi906]

I thought that was for Part 1, because they beat the Gun Devil early.

[@Vanillie261]

I can't find anything called green grass roads, wtf is that movie

[@SeaofbloodkiTheens]

@@Vanillie261 i found it with a vpn I'm just different

[@Vanillie261]

@@SeaofbloodkiTheens 👁👄👁 I was searching it on google to see the Wikipedia page or whatever, any information about the movie, but found nothing. I don't even want to watch the movie, I just wanna see what movie is that

[@nahomthegeek4014]

I'll be honest Csm part 2 feels super slow and incredibly random. The last 20 chapters of this story could've been condensed to 12 tbh.

[@Oneforruu]

Nah 12 chapters would've made all the info we got indigestible due to how much we learned, yall forgetting chainsawwman is meant to have 3 parts. let fujimoto do his thing

[@nahomthegeek4014]

@Oneforruu learned? You mean that katana man's prostitute establishment was destroyed? Or how we wasted an entire chapter on two people jerking it. Not much information was learned in the past 20 chapters. Nothing about the death devil or even nayuta's whereabouts

[@adi2005_]

@@Oneforruu is there a official confirmation of a part 3? genuinely curious

[@ericbehrendt50]

@@Oneforruuthere are no sources confirming what you just said, though it would be cool to have a part 3 about denji as an adult like age 30-50

[@deshawnwilliams6939]

​@@Oneforruu Source: trust me bro

[@dudemgee]

I personally think Fujimoto is cooking hard. I'm loving part 2. It's taking its time to set up and get to know the messy situation which is Asa's entire character, she's like a walking emotional hazard and I enjoy seeing it be played out (no I'm not a simp I ain't downbad). It feels very character oriented at the moment, the most recent chapters hadn't had a fight scene in ages but I don't think it needs one.

[@Isukiri544]

You’re probably going to get hate for this but I agree with you. I’m more or less considering dropping CSM. Part 2 has been too inconsistent for me. Guess I’m sticking to Choujin X and Dandadan.

[@wamaschawama5178]

I'm with you. CSM has lost its sauce that kept me invested. Everyone is saying ,,let him cook" but for how long have we been hearing that now? For almost half a year!

[@FiDjable]

Drop it then lol

[@Isukiri544]

@@wamaschawama5178 exactly I’m really getting tired of the “let him cook” argument. It’s staring to become coping at this point lol

[@villain9482]

​@@Isukiri544🧠 💀

[@Damuworld]

​​@@Isukiri544Ngl reading this 3 months later, that man has cooked. The latest chapters have been dope as hell

[@Secret_Doves]

I agree with the art point but hard disagree on the writing point. The problem with your analysis is you are analyzing it in “arc” terms but there are not arcs proper in the sense of other series. It is one long story. All the aspects of the past chapters are always in play. This makes it basically incomprehensible as a weekly read, because everything is building to one final payoff. The falling arc is a build to the church is a build to the raid is a build to this sushi arc is a build to the next is a build to the conclusion. There won’t be catharsis until it all comes crashing down. This is not how people write usually because, well, if you don’t give people some intermittent satisfaction, they’ll walk away. But I’m locked the fuck in.

[@Secret_Doves]

Also the paneling and layouts are still cracked

[@Kashi-qo8ik]

None of what you just said about the arcs is exclusive to Chainsawman

[@treeoflife8060]

Agree with this take, I really love part 2 over part 1, but i prefer story over fights anyway

[@pspsmallz]

Finally people who gets that csm isnt written like a generic battle shonen and yeah I prefer good story over cool fights too, although cam has them here and there I guess

[@Garvant_]

​@@Kashi-qo8ikthey didn't say it was? They just said it wasn't typical of shounen manga

[@ben99ny69]

When I was reading part 2 weekly I wasn't into it as much as I wanted. I still looked forward to the next chapter but something felt off. Upon taking a break and binging from the beginning, I loved it. Part 2 is just different to part 1. In fact, it's different to not only other shounen manga but manga in general. Manga are typically separated into arcs, cause its easier that way. It's hard to tell a single narrative over many years. Part 2 is a singular narrative that isn't separated into arcs. There aren't the climaxes you'd typically get in a story arc structure. Characters don't have their character development completed in the middle of the manga. It changes over the course of the entire manga, and that could be said for Asa and denji. BTW, it's actually incredible that fujimoto is able to bring in a new protagonist where denji has to share screen time with. I can't even think of another story where that happened. Maybe Game of thrones but seaaon 1 was developing other characters. Asa came in and took much of the spotlight and everyone loves her. The new villain (forgot his name) from the church is a great villain. His actions are comprehensible and very diabolical. He brought out a side of denji that we haven't seen. He's so detestable due to what he did to nayuta (which shows that fujimoto did nayuats and denjis relationship perfectly) and has such a presences when he's on screen. I really do like the church arc the more I think about it. It's kinda a deconstruction on superheros. Instead of the hero placing their values, instead the fans forced their values onto chainsaw man. Disfiguring what chainsaw man is about. which frankly is simple, but I think there's something there. It's just another way on controlling him. Where not only can his actions be controlled but his whole identity. It's why he had such a reaction to the TV screen, cause he's being controlled which any contact. Nailing Denji's and Asa's character was 80% of the battle to make part 2 good and fujimoto is doing just that. Fuck, I'm liking part 2 the more I think about it.

[@scorpee684]

i defenitely think the high paced abrupt style of story telling in part 1 is absent in part 2, something im sure got many fans hooked on the manga. but i think part 2 still brings a lot of new and interesting elements, it's more of a slow burn style, with more intricate dialouge and character dynamics i suppose. besides it'll take time for part 2 to build up momentum again after the ending of part 1, its naturally gonna feel a bit lackluster compared to the endgame of part 1. i would've liked to see more callbacks to part 1, wheres power ?? what about kishibe ?? kobeni ?? but overall i still think part 2 is different, but still entertaining.

[@Darian-sama]

That thumbnail had me rollin 😭😂

[@DJMilez]

7:20 why is THAT so accurate. Like if you would have told me the entire "gang" that I'm going to be invested is those handful you referenced Asa, Denji, Yoshida, etc I wouldn't have believed you. Sure Asa, Nayuta, and Denji makes the most sense and I want to explore those characters but hell Yoshida, Fumiko, etc I'm just so over with. Ultimately you bring many good points and what should have really ramped up CSM part 2 post Falling Devil arc, has faltered or have been lackluster. When you throw that stuff in with the art being iffy and the bi-weekly devil barely giving us anything to chew on, well....it makes for a bumpy ride. Here's hoping chapter 169 and beyond we start picking up the pace.

[@xcxmafai]

Facts

[@ДюсековИльяс]

So.... Did part 1 give the same amount of characters? Like literally. Denji, power, aki, makima, kobeni and that's it

[@xcxmafai]

@@ДюсековИльяс not only are those characters fully developed unlike part 2 copy and pasted new characters you forgot bout himeno yoshida Kishibe beam quanxi ima even add darkness devil 😭😭like are you dumb goofy

[@deshawnwilliams6939]

​@user-uv6qu3wb5d Like part 2 is any better

[@dagrumblers]

One thing for me and more than a few others is that even if you look at the Part as a whole, it's a lot slower paced and Fujimoto doesn't work well with slow pace. It's not just his release schedule, as one arc everyone I knew loved as it was coming out was the Falling Devil arc. It still had the same release schedule as Part 2 as a whole, but it felt like Part 1's insanely high speed pacing.

[@yvngtyreeofficial]

Watching this a month later 💀💀💀what you think now???💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

[@villain9482]

Watching this two weeks later. What do YOU think now WE ARE COOKING EVEN MORE THEN BEFORE 🗣️💯

[@steezuschrist0999]

@@villain9482watching this NOW, we most definitely ARE cooking🔥🔥🔥

[@Damuworld]

​@@villain9482 I think we all underestimated fujimoto, I didn't think he could cook this hard.

[@keithdavy7346]

Is it weird I like part 2 more than part 1? Part 1 had alot of moments that had me hype all week but part 2 gives me a throwback to the vibes of those classic horror manga. It goes into Denji's progression as a human alot more and how it deals with traumas. We can see him slowly get himself together and 'almost' fix his life.

[@mhous3]

The series fell off when Power died in Part 1.

[@scrambledeggs-rc5ij]

the phrase "let him cook" can only work for so long

[@Isukiri544]

For real. It really starts to lose if it’s taking too long for the pay off. This applies to CSM for me right now.

[@pspsmallz]

It worked for part 1. I remember when people thought csm sucked until the international assassins arc happened even

[@dreamcastdazia4753]

​@@pspsmallz It did not take that long for people to like csm back in part 1. What are you misinforming for. Reze arc is where people started to HYPE it up. People knew they liked it during the katana man fiasco

[@UltraIDDQD6DOOM]

​@Goetia544 saying "it's taking too long" is actually kind of a brain dead take. Literally the point is that we're building towards something. So you're telling me jjk is bad cuz it spent a hundred chapters building up to shibuya? You're telling me one piece is bad because it spends a whole bunch of time building towards things? Most of y'all just want fast pacing and I understand that, but bro at least try to understand what the author is doing. It's clear hes taking his time and building towards something. It takes time to build to the good parts. I'd much rather him take his time than just rush things.

[@1kbmahan]

Imagine that this is a weekly series and it’s his story to tell and being impatient isn’t really gonna tell him what do with his story. Just saying. Mfs think he has to care about y’all not enjoying the story or something. I think this really stems from liking part 1 and let’s be honest this isn’t part 1 and these are new characters and a new story.

[@ontheriseav]

I agree 100% maybe it’s because we can’t binge it, but the manga is definitely at low point right now story wise. However I have faith in Fujimoto

[@roadkillxer7]

i honestly don’t mind these recent arcs. the story is going more towards typical shonen rather than chainsaw man. once part 2 finishes and we get a full read through, i think it’ll be seen in a better light

[@mrsninis_0477]

csm part 2 does not resemble much of a shonen and hasn't for a while.

[@roadkillxer7]

@@mrsninis_0477 shonen is broad so it’s kinda hard to say it’s not much a shonen when these past arcs have been fights, a cult, a raid, and then an entire arc about a relationship between two teenagers

[@michaelurmo7984]

Fujimoto is just setting up for probably the biggest arc yet for Part 2 rn, Death Devil and such. For now, we get some sweet character deconstruction and reconstruction with Denji and Asa.

[@cornbread9398]

I am actually loving part 1 and part 2 equally both are great in my eyes but everyone has different taste

[@Heavenlyscenario50]

Agreed

[@chicken1456]

I admit I don’t agree with most of what you said in the vid but I respect your opinion. But YOU BOUT KATANA MAN, him being back has been great

[@nafolktales]

Wild to say Asa and yoru had no characterization during the arc 😅😅

[@seujroge]

"Aimless" In my opinion, ChainsawMan's second part is lacking an end/main goal. In the first part of the story, there was always a clear end goal that seemed planned from the start, which was to defeat Makima. However, in the second part, there doesn't seem to be a planned ending for it.

[@mahkicarter]

Man, part 2 can feel like a slog when reading weekly, but i was surprised at how fast it is when on a binge. And with the art, i felt like there always have been dips in quality even in part 1, but it has been low this recent arc (raid arc) There's probably something going on his side, but we would never know.

[@mhous3]

The series would have been better if part 2 had a time jump or Chainsaw Man grew up instead of becoming a high school student.

[@Geijin1]

I think that part 2 has to be read with all the chapters out. Like, whenever I get caught up to a manga, they usually feel slow due to the weekly (or biweekly) wait.

[@sixfromtokyo]

Verified Check.

[@BrokenRonin]

Bout time

[@METAsMETAs]

Damn straight

[@Mcheeserton]

All of the goats over here

[@Diavolo]

Finally 😂

[@xcxmafai]

@@Mcheesertonong

[@krishnaparmar23]

It is more lineant towards Denji's character development, and these arc is amazing not gonna lie.

[@liamerasmus8592]

I think a lot of your issues are an issue of expectation. Part 2 is fundamentally different from Part 1, not just in pacing but in storytelling. It’s not your flow, which is fine. Personally I like it and find it incredibly interesting.

[@Byakkoya11037]

I'd say "Aimless" an a very apt way of putting it. There are numerous moments in the story post-Falling Devil where the story just seems to lifelessly drag itself along. It's not as exciting as it used to be, or as funny as it used to be, or as good looking as it used to be, all current Chainsaw Man has going for it right now is drama and even that feels handicapped by the lack of investment I have in the current cast of characters. The stakes are higher than ever, and despite that I'm nowhere near as interested. I don't hate Part 2, and I don't think Fujimoto's fallen off or anything like that, but if I'm being completely honest I think the ending to Part 1 could have been THE ending to Chainsaw Man and it would have been just fine.

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

If part 1 is the ending of chainsaw man Part 2 is the reboot Edit: personally I feel like if fujimoto wanted the second part to be more character focused while the main plot was more behind the scenes he shouldn't have killed yuko right at the beginning of part 2

[@murderman8578]

Nah Part 1 still Has Denji unresolved and Mysteries that Fuji has planned

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

@@murderman8578 has it?

[@Fluminox-]

It's been almost 2 years since part 2 first came out and it's clear that it's nowhere near as good as part 1. That said, it seems to be building up to something big, and I can't wait to see what happens

[@SilverSaw988]

Man, this video is a huge miss for me. But props for being honest with how you feel about it. I wonder if a reread would help? I think the church arc is great, I think the focus on Denji not being able to transform WAS some extreme justice. I think Barem is a genuinely super fun villian, with incredible dialogue and a real dramatic presence whenever he’s on screen. I think Denji and Nayuta’s relationship is beautiful and that all the subtle storytelling through the art, in their apartment, and in their mannerisms together display a bond better than words could. I think the rescue Denji arc was a little weak personally, but upon re-read, it’s light-heartedness is a nice break between how depressing all the story surrounding it was. And the current content is extremely strong as well, though I don’t think it’s fair to bring it up. Since it came out after this vid. Either way, I’d love to hear what you think after a re-read. Or how you are feeling about the manga now. Thanks for the vid, even if I strongly disagree

[@fumbuswumbus]

I really enjoyed this video, but want to share that I still really love chainsaw man part 2 lol Denji and Asa's relationship whether it ends up good or bad, is a dynamic that always kept me invested and I love the slower, yet more character driven feel of part 2 even though like you said some arcs don't always do much for certain characters like the raid for Asa. I actually prefer the pacing of part 2, idk something about it feels very controlled and I love how every chapter has unique set up and makes every chapter feel like a definded segment of an arc unlike chapters of other manga that simply just pick up where the last chapter left off. If you don't know what I'm talking about Shonen Ouji talks about this in depth in his 'What Chainsaw Man Does BETTER Than Jujutsu Kaisen' Video. There are certain aspects of the story that admittedly i don't feel too strongly about like the fami stuff and all that, but I feel like part 2 doesn't spend too long on certain plot points and I always feel like chapters will transition into the next thing or story beat pretty smoothly. I'm extremely excited for the upcoming chapters genuinely As for characters or gags you don't like, there's not much of a defense I have for them. I like them just fine or at worst just am unbothered by them. I genuinely don't feel bothered by any of the narrative or character decisions Part 2 has made up to this point, but to each their own. Two points that I think I can't deny tho are that the chapter release schedule is causing fatigue and that the art has honestly gotten worse. Especially the presentation, like damn I can't hear to music to most of these scenes tbh they don't have that cinematic feel. But yeh that's what I think

[@imsentinelprime9279]

I have to agree with you. Csm just isnt as interesting as it used to be.

[@JimboS1ice999]

Idk if anyone has ever experienced a premature ejaculation...but that's the plot. It's going to leave you unsatisfied and with a huge mark of shame on your ego...the perfect summary for this series.

[@smcdonough1427]

CSM part 2 is definitely weaker SO FAR, than part 1. Part 1 was basically perfect. But we cant really say whether or not part 2 is good, UNTIL IT'S REACHED ITS CONCLUSION. I'm so sick of everyone jumping the gun and being so over the top about everything

[@DCyoutube4]

CSM pt2 is also a lot better the more you learn about fujimoto and after reading his various one-shots/short stories. I think pt2 on a binge/reread when it’s complete will be looked at as fondly as pt1. Pt2 also suffers from people expecting it to be something that the author clearly doesn’t want it to be. As pt2 goes on we see that CSM isn’t a comedy action anymore, it’s something much more meta and serious

[@almac5446]

I think is the factors that's slower pace and character focus and no bombastic as the first one but that was more lacking on character focus as well

[@purpleponteran2805]

I’m not trying to put out my opinions on part 2 before it’s finished, because it feels to me like Chainsaw Man is just not built for week to week reading. Once it’s done & I can reread it end to end like part 1 I think I’ll have a much different view of it

[@firstdw]

For me it’s just like there is nothing happening in chapters most of the time we are getting short chapters that don’t change the direction of the story in any way and the worst part is we are getting them every other week like if ur gonna give us bad chapters atleast do it weekly

[@couthkarma3536]

Imo it’s not aimless it’s just that things are happening around Denji as he tries to live a normal life

[@therealcat2048]

Honestly I agree with the rescue chainsaw man arc sm. Because part two has been very hot and cold, but this most recent arc was just so underwhelming. I’m really hoping that Fujimoto locks in, 168 is really promising and I hope it stays like that

[@MatchofJarcomb]

I think I agree with your points on Part 2’s (or the second half of it really), in a way that’s more objective than I usually see. Seeing the art back-to-back definitely kinda opened my eyes to it. Art and chapter pacing/content are the main problems. One of the biggest things about Chainsaw Man is that it functions best on a binge, and the weekly format obviously doesn’t help. They work hand-in-hand, and really fall short. I wish Fujimoto did it like Sui Ishida with Choujin X, releasing chapters on his own schedule with more progression and solid art. All that said, in terms of writing I’m…satisfied. Not bewildered like Part 1, but definitely not asking for too much more. I’ve always liked fictional stories that feel grounded, street level, and mopey…and that’s exactly how it feels now. Im also an art/writing geek, and Fujimoto’s rough style kinda feels like I’m watching a friend work his craft or something. As somebody who aspires to do the same, even if he’s not at his best, I love Chainsaw Man all the same… …and I hope the best for its author.

[@politedonut2637]

Honestly i dont even know whats going on really but i still enjoy reading it every once in a while

[@nerdcorner2680]

In my opinion it really came from the Aquarium arc-ish time period. It felt like we were going threw the same loop for awhile. Yoshida is mysterious -> hint to fakesaw man -> Fami appears and does nothing -> Asa and Denji will they/won’t they dynamic. That just repeated for a good bit. Now that the story is doing a lot of new stuff it feels like too little too late (plus with all the breaks you mentioned making the loop feel a lot longer than it was)

[@zineprixmenu4373]

Im sure part 2 will slap on a binge like part1

[@xcxmafai]

Nah I read the last 2-3 arcs of part 1 weekly and yeah it’s better

[@weebb]

@@xcxmafai he never said it was worst

[@dudeman6888]

@@xcxmafai mans read the best part of the manga week to week. Of course its better than setup comparatively. We will get our craziness for part 2 all I can suggest is either hold out or take a break and binge at once when it's done.

[@xcxmafai]

@@dudeman6888 no I like part 2 I’m just saying the pacing was better in the other part

[@mrsninis_0477]

@@xcxmafai the pacing is one of the main problems with part 1, it's too fast which makes a ton of scenes lose its impact and we don't feel like we get to know characters as much as we should have. the pacing of early part 2 is much better, the reason why its worse now is beacuse the pacing of current part 2 is very inconsistent

[@samflood5631]

I’m kinda disappointed that both Reze and Kobeni have not once made an appearance in part 2 when the story has made several attempts to do so. But I hope that they’ll make some sort of appearance in the final arc of Part 2.

[@yomicry-ed3697]

All y'all want is cameos . Marvel has rotten your brains. It hasn't been a single reason onto why Reze or kobeni would show up yet

[@mrsninis_0477]

lmao what would Reze do in part 2? Denji completely forgot about her directly after the reze arc finished and never thought about her again

[@shamarbarrett9958]

Huh, When did it do that ?? 😂😂that why you don’t like part 2 because Reze and Kobeni haven’t showed up that’s so dumb

[@shamarbarrett9958]

@@yomicry-ed3697exactly 😂😂

[@xHollow.]

@@yomicry-ed3697 Reyze was a crucial part of Denjis character development along with Kobeni in a way. We dont want cameos we want to know where the character left off which is not a bad thing. Go outside if you're this triggered dawg

[@pingus5417]

i love the chapter that just released tho. denji has only said one thing ''do you love me?'' and got no as a response. now the whole chapter he just has this confused traumatized look on his face

[@rogovnin]

And where exactly he was traumatised?

[@NOFOCUSS]

@@rogovnin you just ask where DENJI was traumatized? how about the last 168 chapters

[@rogovnin]

@@NOFOCUSS i haven't seen it in the last chapter

[@HailDarkseid]

Tbh idk wtf going on in chainsaw man pt 2. rn for me, it’s hard to follow , visually for sure, I can’t tell who is who or what is what

[@deshawnwilliams6939]

Prison Break arc is CSM at its worst in my opinion

[@doublebbastard7514]

167 is my favorite chapter in a while, because it felt like a true chainsaw man chapter, can you imagine mha or jjk having a chapter like this? It felt unique and the right kind of out of the box experience.

[@JimboS1ice999]

The author doesn't care and it's bad. Happy you were critical of it.

[@anonymoustroll2432]

Things are about to get disgusting if Denji-Man ends up with Kobeni

[@casmachinaa5223]

Peak Csm art was early part 2

[@CJ-qv4sd]

CSM part 1 was an easy 9/10 While CSM part 2 is a 7/10 so far. What made part 1 so good was the fast pace story, likable side characters, great antagonists, better artstyle, chaotic fights, and decent worldbuilding and lore info while with part 2 it lacks all of these good qualities because fujimoto is spending all of his energy focusing on denji and asa instead of other aspects like making good side characters or making good antagonists and ever since the falling devil arc we haven’t seen any good action even during arcs where we could have such as the prison break arc to show off how much better Asa and Yoru have improved but fujimoto instead drew “fights” that lasted only a few panels at most with a bit of comedy that honestly felt mediocre and the arc as a whole felt a bit wasted cuz of how short it and with how Asa’s reaction to denji being chainsaw man feeling underwhelming.

[@bazie9469]

For me part 1 it's 8/10 And part 2 it's 7.4/10 Well Chainsaw man still pretty good.

[@walnutstudio502]

@@bazie9469please don’t use the: 😊 emoji it makes me so mad

[@bazie9469]

@@walnutstudio502 Alright

[@walnutstudio502]

@@bazie9469 thanks😊

[@murderman8578]

Well the whole point of part 2 is being characters

[@diego_585]

its really hard making people care about new characters after the ones people loved are gone forever, reminds me of the MCU and how it just basically fell off after End Game, only character worth saving from Part 2 is Asa/Yoru and i honestly think Fujimoto couldve written a whole other manga with Asa and it wouldve been better.

[@thespadeking]

I'll prolly reread part 2 when it finishes but for now I think it's like a 6/10. I think its really only been recent arcs that have been kind of a slog for me but I trust fujimoto to pick it back up. Ch. 168 was good and I hope it's only up from here

[@shadowtheworld4201]

Broken Ronnin can you do a video if a inumaki reached his full potential.

[@Jobrosfan44]

i think the "problem is that part 2 is about asa and denji. the main plot, which is death devil & apocalypse, is coming later.

[@itsstarryyea]

It's pacing confuses me to an endlessly unbearable degree-- A LOT happens that should be very plot important such as: Denji and Nayuta's argument and all of the fights that break out from Barem, Denji's pets dying, Asa VS Yoshida, the public completely turning on Chainsaw Man, almost entirely ruin Denji and Asa's relationship and even introducing who the final villain is going to be is all really big news and things we should care about. Yet... it's pacing manages to still feel sluggish and its characters outside Denji, Asa and Nayuta haven't really changed much which makes me feel very unmotivated to read its current arcs. Which sucks because I loved Part 2 at first with all of its early stories and ideas but now it feels like a challenge to go through And before people tell me about how reading it all at once will feel better I already have, I caught up to Part 2 not even that long ago and it was during the Church arc

[@f135-m2s]

please can you bring back jjk vs and full potential videos. (I'd love to see naoya full potential video)

[@Dalton_needs_a_fastcar]

When is the next live stream dropping?

[@daltoniospizza9175]

I dont think people are paying attention at all to part 2. Barem and Fami are both really incredible villains, on track to being on par with Makima. I also don't think the art has dropped in quality save for some minor inconsistencies, but chapter 152 was one of my fave chapters to come out recently. Denji sawing himself in half along with spear before chowing down on him was AURA idc what anyone says.

[@BRUHIMG0THDR0P]

If you get the “let him cook” mindset away, it’s genuinely sad how different it is compared to part one, not even a better different, just, flat, like bland and empty.

[@BRUHIMG0THDR0P]

And I feel like some of the cast are just so boring, compared to part one

[@pumpkins1557]

@@BRUHIMG0THDR0P Not just writing wise or character wise, but the art seems to encapsulate that fall as the comparison of the part 1 art style and the part 2 art style and the fall off of said style is clear as day

[@Not_Jojo815]

OK calm down Part 2 as a whole isn't ''flat" and ''empty"

[@BRUHIMG0THDR0P]

@@Not_Jojo815 opinions are fair to have, but it’s definitely a step down from the novelty part one had, I mean the cast is flat as all mess.

[@willemdaho3]

i viewed it as the school arc. change of setting, new characters. death devil > gun devil.

[@QuickThekidd]

death as literally done nothing

[@cooluno_9]

My thing is im just tired of seeing denji get taken advantage of, and it kind of getting written off as a joke

[@Garvant_]

That shit wasn't played as a joke what are you on 💀

[@Ariviste]

There is literally a panel in Ch. 166 of Denji screaming that this isnt funny, which is addressed to the audience directly. Fujimoto is not making panels like Katana Man kicking Denji in the nuts so the audience can have a laugh.

[@cooluno_9]

@Garvant_ I should've clarified myself I'm not caught up csm partv3 I don't care about spoiler either so I watched the video,but from where I'm at rn I'm not rocking with what I said

[@EmiTalksGames]

I think people expect something very different from fujimoto than anything he has actually delivered. Fights are always just set pieces to Fuji, and slow burn character work is kinda his forte. The series will never have the pacing of an big battle shounen like JJK. While yes, this part is significantly slower than part 1, everything is super cohesive on a binge and we're nowhere near the end. I think dedicating yourself to a long form story in a weekly medium, then calling that story disappointing because it hasn't reached its climax halfway through is just kinda ridiculous.

[@CJ-qv4sd]

It still has problems outside of pacing though

[@cokesucker9520]

@@CJ-qv4sd Name one

[@G1TRYPTICON]

Yall just need to wait.

[@1922_kinda_girl]

This video so accurately put out my frustrations with pt 2 thank you

[@luigionvacay4287]

yeah your so right bro keep it up

[@SamTheGumMan117]

Not for me, it hasn't been disappointing while I do love part 1 more overall. Still that doesn't mean part 2 is bad to me and the art is still quite good to me but after what just happened I think the dynamic between Asa/Yoru, Fami and Denji feels like it's gonna be really good soon.

[@overhaul.-.]

At least this week’s chapter was pretty good

[@alanviniciuswanderleytavar4399]

My man, i never disagreed more, i bench read and it's amazing, it probably is this

[@Nitnert1]

So I've been off the chainsaw man story for like 50 chapters and I recently re read the entirety of part 2. To me it never really felt incoherent, binging it was definitely better than waiting every week, it flowed a lot more as a story and I enjoyed it a lot. I can definitely say that the characters aren't as compelling, the only interesting dynamic with the hybrids was sword mad and human decisions. I wish Fugi did more with them. I have enjoyed it but there are some pretty big flaws. I do worry for how the story is going, but no matter what happens Chainsaw Man will forever be my favorite manga

[@Ialone1]

Haven't finished the video yet,but I already agree with u

[@SawGoodMan]

Honestly after today's chapter I can't keep giving Fujimoto the benefit of the doubt CSM part 1 was my favorite modern manga for the longest (recently JJK overtook that) but Part 2 is just losing it for me especially once the Falling Devil stuff ended, after that it just went down in my opinion, made very prominent once I realized it's almost surpassed the length of part 1 just 12 chapters shy.

[@MrHarshverdhan]

Don't know what you talking about mate lol. I been loving denji mental growth and his struggle as someone who does have a lot to lose as compared to season 1.

[@Dman-wv7sq]

So why don’t you drop it then if it’s so terrible for you?

[@nafolktales]

Weird than you don’t mention nayuta at all. I thought her moments with denji, the characterization and development for her was great storytelling. Besides providing a great conclusion to denji being saved by the control devil after his epic relapse. If that doesn’t please for a short 20 chapter arc. Maybe you should just stick to traditional battle shounen, cause that ain’t CSM

[@bazie9469]

Well i like humour in this part) A lot of very funny things i laugh so many times damn

[@zade8586]

Not a true fan. True Gs are waiting for the long cook.

[@samurai_riceboy88xd19]

fr

[@imaturechild24]

i just quit after the falling devil arc

[@justasinglesummon3912]

Since no one is gonna read an entire essay that I would type here I’m just gonna say some of these takes feel disingenuous. Comparing two random panels(the yoru ones) is an example of that.

[@BrokenRonin]

Comparing 2 random panels is the entirety of my point. Fujimoto didn't suddenly lose his ability to draw, but GENERALLY the manga looks worse

[@justasinglesummon3912]

@ I know, but you can also take a good drawing from part 2 and put it next to a bad drawing from part 1 and say he improved. There isn’t really a lot of credibility when comparing two random panels. Especially when one of the drawings is visibly meant for a smaller part of the panel compared to the “better one” from part 1. Now this may sound like I disagree with your take on his art declining but I actually mostly agree. I just thought your point would be stronger when giving more context in the comparison.

[@BrokenRonin]

@@justasinglesummon3912 If the climax of a battle that is capping off an arc in the manga (denji vs a bunch of fiends) constitutes "random" then so be it, but I'm not cherry picking for my argument. In any case, the feedback is appreciated it.

[@justasinglesummon3912]

@ I’m talking about the two drawings at around 5:17 of Yoru and Asa. Not the example with the fiends, since I agree with that example.

[@Triax1211]

I stopped reading after the falling devil. The series fell off pretty hard after part 1

[@Isukiri544]

Was that a pun? lol

[@Triax1211]

@@Isukiri544 hahahahaha it really wasn't 🤣 😂

[@mrblack9079]

Can you do jjk vs ds plss

[@arzentvm]

chainsaw man youtubers are starving for many months now, i feel bad for them, they keep making weekly content only to get a really slow chapter nothing happen, denjis semen is like a gift from god cause they can milk it for deeper meanings (content) 💀

[@Robj4y]

Sufferants😭😭

[@bubbajoe117]

@@Robj4y At this point coming up with adjectives for his video titles has gotta be more entertaining than the chapter he's discussing.

[@gerardomaldonado1558]

Yeah the quality can seem a little low compared to how it was, but I honestly believe it’s cause since there’s a movie coming out and he’s more focused on that at the moment. When it comes out or is done making, I feel like the quality and story telling will come back to how it was, or it’s still part of his plan to make it this way

[@Gotta_Lock_In]

Dude where tf is the unknown devil? Humanity has always had the fear of the unknown and the only reason people are scared of death is because they dont know what happens after it so in theory, the unknown devil would be one of the if not the strongest devil in Chain Saw Man. Idk what the fuck i wanted to prove with this but its something that ive thinking about for a while now.

[@Goji-C]

I miss kobeni

[@ayden2740]

To be fair towards the art fujimoto is currently working on TWO movies. So i can't blame him for the decline.

[@Fara_Ka]

I didn't get the hype about part 1 so this isn't new

[@xcxmafai]

I agree it’s a little disappointing but I don’t think it’s over the last 2 chapters if you think the last 2 chapters were CRAZY and diabolical then your dramatic and childish

[@NobuKage404]

Good stuff Ronin

[@dragonrulerbaby7926]

i loved every new chapter

[@BlackPhilosophy]

This aged soooooooo poorly😭 make another video praising the manga, just keep the same energy!

[@kdiin.]

chainsaw man had the best comeback of 2024, it went from falling off to peak within 3 chapters

[@BlackPhilosophy]

@@kdiin. I don’t think it was ever falling off, people are just impatient (and stupid)

[@kdiin.]

@@BlackPhilosophy i think it had a rough patch(post prison break), and the prison breaks ending was abrupt, but i still loved it

[@BlackPhilosophy]

@@kdiin. I can agree with than!

[@JimboS1ice999]

Bro the entire comments section is full of cope holy shit.