The Cheapest Aluminum LS! Pro Touring Triumph Build - Project GT6R - Ep20

[@FanatikBuilds]

It's been a lot of work! What do you think? Thanks again to Scott Costanzo for pioneering this setup! (Copy & paste this link, it's not working otherwise for some bizarre reason!) forum.britishv8.org/read.php?6,37035,page=11

[@andylewis7360]

Great job with fabbing that little lot together dude! Keep it up!! ;-D

[@FanatikBuilds]

@@andylewis7360 Thanks for the words of encouragement Andy! Really appreciate it! 😄 we will certainly try to! 👍

[@Scott68B]

Michael, thank you for calling me out, I really appreciate it. I shared what I did in the hopes it might help someone else and I suspected that my idea would be improved upon with another set of eyes on it. You certainly did that!!!!! Very nice work on the starter!!! Very nicely engineered! It looks factory. Can't wait to see it on the road. You're really going to like the LS4.

[@FanatikBuilds]

@@Scott68B Scott, you are entirely deserving of the credit! Thank you for all the effort you put into the design and documenting it so we can benefit! So glad you like our take on it, that means a lot and I hope it works out as well as yours in the end! How has the solid style clutch worked out for you? The centerforce unit we got is rated for 358lb/ft which should be adequate, yet still has springs and one side is full face so I'm hoping it will be very streetable. Trying to plan for the future in case we have issues though! Cheers sir 👍

[@Scott68B]

@@FanatikBuilds Michael, sorry for the delay in getting back to you on this. I had trouble with the original clutch, which I was never very happy with, and ended up replacing it with a sprung hub style that is still a 6 puck disc. It's a Spec Stage 3 clutch. I'm much happier with this style but it doesn't have a marcel spring so it chatters slightly sometimes during engagement.

[@thedukeofarchibauld]

Seeing the fly wheel spin at the beginning and end of video had total different levels of appreciation. Great work men!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Haha, yeah, it really does! 😅 Cheers man, thanks very much! 👍

[@darrylbarger3795]

Absolutely a great build. I owned a spitfire or two and many MGs. My Buddy had a GT6 we were the rebels who could corner when all our friends had muscle cars. I still have my 62 MGA 1600 MK2 my Dad and I restored in the mid 70s. It's never going to be a concours car so I have been toying with an engine trans swap now that I'm retired. Your perseverance and engineering working with you Dad is priceless. My Dad's passed now and our days in the garage were the best and most fondest memories. Carry On! Can't wait till next episode which oh how I know will take much time when in nearly uncharted territory. Learn all you can from your Dad.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks Darryl for the great comment! Love the MGA - glad you still have yours and the memories of your Dad along with it! Hope you will enjoy what's to come here and please stay in touch! 👍

[@andrewd2046]

Hey, this is dad and you’ve given me a fantastic chuckle!! I am learning everything from him ... and enjoying building sweet memories along the way. Thanks fir your kind thoughts & encouragement for Michael.

[@howardwhite9773]

This is precisely the setup my 1970 MGB has been sitting and waiting for going on 20+ years!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Be sure to check out the link in the pinned comment to Scott's thread, this package fits really nicely in an MGB! Cheers Howard 👍

[@kuakkacam]

The boys at Bad Obsession better put you on the top shelf in the Deboss ICS comp. You deserve the win with your Binky-esk Frankenstein build. Very clever build. Very nicely done engineering the solutions. Nick Blackhurst would be oozing looking at this car!! Go LEAFS. 🇨🇦

[@FanatikBuilds]

Haha, that would be amazing Cameron! 😄 No idea when they're posting their video but I'm waiting on baited breath! Really appreciate the kind words of encouragement, and hope you'll enjoy what's to come! Cheers! 👍🇨🇦

[@toosavvy3504]

You use 'basic tools' but 'exceptional planning' = basically, exceptional outcome! Respect, from an old-skool modder :-) tooSavvy @UK

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks Mr Savvy! 😊 Appreciate it!

[@brucehodges7889]

Crazy amount of engineering just to mount a starter, job well done! I really enjoy your perseverance.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Haha! Any other starter install will seem trivial to me after this! ... Though... I don't envy anyone with a Northstar V8! 😬😉 Cheers Bruce, appreciate it very much! 👍

[@brucehodges7889]

@@FanatikBuilds I forgot to mention all the thought you put into what's going on inside the bellhousing...Good stuff!

[@FanatikBuilds]

@@brucehodges7889 Thanks Bruce, it's all come together pretty nicely eh! We're pleased with the result 😊

[@rkstewart9585]

As a Millwright and fabricator I've used Everlast for years for all my shop and on-site equipment. You did well and their customer service is second to none. I have one machine that's a multiprocessor tig/mig/stick combo that's been beat up and down stairs, around equipment and in and out of lifts that's 7 years old without one failure. Not one. Just found your channel and you're definitely my kinda car-crafter. Best of luck!!!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Awesome! Great to hear your first hand experience, hopefully my unit will prove to be just as reliable.🤞 Thanks also for the encouragement, I hope you will enjoy what's to come man!

[@2ToneWalt]

Hey, blind stubbornness is what made this world great, I'm well known for it. 😁 That's some fine engineering with basic tools. Congrats on the 3rd place man, well deserved👍

[@FanatikBuilds]

Where would we all be of it wasn't for the unwillingness to conform to what's known as the "only solution"?! 😂 Thanks very much Steve, your support means a lot and I always appreciate hearing from you!

[@macho4x4warlock98]

You are a talented engineer with all those card board templates!!!!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Haha, thanks very much David! Good old CAD 😊 (cardboard aided design) Bad Obsession Motorsports is famous for it if you have never seen their videos! Hope you'll enjoy what's to come here, cheers man! 👍

[@tylerbarrett6652]

I LOVE IT.... I learned to drive in a 73 Triumph Spitfire..... and so I told me brother... and he told his kids.... and they told friends.... you should have at least 20 new subscribers as a result. Anyway.... I ALSO love that you were inspired by Binky. My brother learned of that from me.... and his first car was a little toyota that he called "Binky... so we are having lots of fun keeping up with that and THIS.

[@FanatikBuilds]

What an awesome legacy Tyler - and thanks for sharing this project with them, I really appreciate that!! If every one of our subscribers would do the same we'd be where I need to be! 😂 Nick and Richard are a huge reason why I was driven enough to take on a project of this scale! Without their videos, I really don't think I'd have had the guts... It's not what we set out for ~7 years ago, but I'm so glad we are where we are! 😄 Stay healthy, and all the best! 👍

[@jiveturkey9993]

Just stumbled across this channel. This dude is super smart. This is definitely one of the coolest builds that I've ran across on KZbin.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks Bill, means a lot 😊 glad you found us and I hope you'll enjoy what's to come!

[@jiveturkey9993]

@@FanatikBuilds there's a lot of really small channels on here where guys like you are just doing all kinds of fantastic stuff that's every bit as good as the billion dollar builds. I consider this one right up there with the best of them.

[@FanatikBuilds]

It's actually fun working with a budget - keeps you on your toes and makes problem solving more interesting! The billion dollar builds are fun to watch though :) Cheers Bill 👍

[@fritzmeynejr2983]

First-class "make it fit" Garage kings!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Haha, very kind of you! 😊 Thanks Fritz!

[@davidm6134]

Brilliant piece of engineering. A true quality installation. Cannot wait for next installment

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks very much David, really appreciate that! Hope you'll enjoy what's to come :)

[@leuvenlife]

Probably my second favourite car build on KZbin. Coming second only to Binky, is quite an achievement, as I'm sure you'll agree. By the way, you made me smile when you got your funk out Top job.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Gosh, second only to Binky?! That's a huge honour! 😊🙏 Thanks man! So glad you and enjoying it, and thanks for the encouragement! 👍

[@markwoodger2]

I agree This is my favourite car build from the perspective of the DIY. I put binky in the category of professionals showing us engineering porn in their spare time. yours is my only patreon build.

[@FanatikBuilds]

@@markwoodger2 That's incredibly high praise Mark! Thanks so much for your continued support and I hope you are doing well! 👍

[@bart9859]

Hey Guy, New I'm a subscriber, found your channel by accident. But really like your continent(sp--Don't know if Seri is spelling this right, but KZbin does have a pretty good spell checker, since it caught a few of my misspellings). I'm looking forward to go back and watch the beginning of this project to this point where you are at now. So keep up the good work, and we can learn along with you. Bart

[@FanatikBuilds]

Welcome Bart! Hope you will enjoy the older episodes (we've tried to improve the quality along the way) but I also hope you will like what is yet to come! 👍

[@jasonroberts4029]

Just found you guys while on a youtube-rabbit-hole-odyssey, I'm doing a similar thing with a foxbody mustang and am in Alberta - so nice to see a Canadian channel with such class, hats of to you and your Dad. Keep it up eh!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Welcome Jason! Glad you found us! Very cool, an LS4 and T5? You're probably the only foxbody with that setup! Appreciate the support and encouragement - hope you'll enjoy what's to come ... Eh! 😄🇨🇦👍

[@jasonroberts4029]

@@FanatikBuilds Not similar in power train crazyness (sorry for misleading!) just in the 'rustoring' and modding - lots of composites are planned. I have a rebuilt 302 which I'll use. Or the 5.3 LQ4 I have. Depending which day you ask. Incidentally I also originally hail from Britain by way of New Zealand.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Missed your reply, sorry Jason! Those are quite the options to have to choose between - either one will be great though! I've also wondered about replacing some sections of the car with composite... specifically the rear fenders as they were a bit of a patchwork and I'm overall less pleased with them than the rest of the car. We'll have to see though! Cheers man, and enjoy your Stang! 👍

[@sbf_fox2434]

@@jasonroberts4029 I am interested in how to put a Ford t5 behind a regular LS. The QuickTime bellhousing costs $1000.

[@herbiederby3394]

The pioneer give you a start.....but man you really did your homework on Mounting that starter cool engineering but best of all you had fun doing it....💯👍

[@FanatikBuilds]

Cheers man! We wouldn't have even tried it if it weren't for Scott, but I do really like the way our mounting plate turned out! 😊👍

[@dennisthemenace49]

Change the extension housing bushing. Any slop there will cause premature transmission failure. Loving the build. Can't wait to see it running.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks for the tip Dennis, we'll make a note of that and replace the seal at the same time! 👍 Glad you are enjoying the project, hope you'll like what's to come!

[@dennisthemenace49]

@@FanatikBuilds You are welcome sir. Have a great weekend.

[@FanatikBuilds]

You too man!

[@lancewatt8514]

There are “car guys,” then there is the guy that knows how everything works… why.. how. Wish I knew a fraction of what he knows. Amazing work, amigo!

[@goodmanmatt]

Okay, update- THIS is my favorite bit of the build so far. First it was the frame and then it was the sway bar and mounts. But THIS. THIS is clean. Mad props to you guys

[@FanatikBuilds]

Haha, thanks Mr Epic! 👍 Really appreciate the support and encouragement!

[@BWGPEI]

The spirit of your build reminds me of me and my brother way too many years ago, with make it work technology and lots of parts that no dealer ever saw. Best of luck to you!

[@FanatikBuilds]

That's awesome! 💯 ... Obviously having a budget makes you think outside the box, but I think even if that situation were different, I'd still default to this way of building. It's just way more fun finding solutions! 😄 Cheers man! 👍

[@ourhandsbuilteverything7461]

This has to be the most amazing auto engineering work I have seen on KZbin - ever. Congrats! I will tell many friends. BTW, my first car at 16 1/2 was an old 1969 GT6 +. I loved it, and it reciprocated by needing work done on her by me, on a weekly basis.

[@FanatikBuilds]

This has to be the most amazing ...comment! Thanks man, there are a ton of great builds out there, but I'm glad you like what we're up to! Thanks for sharing with your friends, that is a huge help and very appreciated. 👍 Haha, maybe that was just its way of getting you to spend quality time with it! 😉

[@wirefree90]

I had a Mk3 GT6 in Yellow ...it makes me want to get another, great work and with an episode of Binky being released later today who needs Netflix/amazon/Apple when you guys produce such great material.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Wow! I really can't imagine any higher praise than that! 😊 Thank you Andy, you're very kind and I'm glad you are enjoying what we're up to, cheers! 👍

[@johnkeeney9717]

Don't give up.keep digging , your doing a good job !

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks John! We'll try, hope'll you enjoy what's to come! 👍

[@MoDawdy]

Fantastic work on the starter mounting

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thank you Morgan! Glad to have it crossed off the list now! 😂

[@BobPegram]

Given this advance on your way to an LS powered GT6, the fact that you didn't win your classes in DeBoss Garage's InterNETional car show this year will be just a vague memory when your car wins. 8-)) Your entry needs to be in a "limited tool" category. Glad a commenter straightened out your explanation from the previous video and especially that you had the guts to run the corrected explanation in this video! Mistakes are how YOU learn, correcting them in another video is how WE learn from you! Thank you!! Hurry up and put the guts into your LS 4, I want to hear it run!! It'll also be good for you when new, seemingly intractable problems crop up. Just run the engine for a bit, saying to yourself: "We WILL make this car run just as the engine does!"

[@FanatikBuilds]

Haha, thanks Bob! 😄 It would have been nice to win something but it was cool just hearing what some of the judges thought about the project! And the gents from Project Binky still haven't judged yet, so maybe there's still a chance? 🤞😉 Oh we join you in the eager wait to hear it run! It will likely be a while yet though as I'm planning on getting most of the car done before any new parts go into the engine - just makes sense not to have them sit and potentially rust or deteriorate from lack of use (thinking seals etc)... still though, I want to hear it so I may not be able to wait that long! 😂 Cheers and thanks for the kind words of support, I really appreciate it! 👍

[@phillipthethird42]

Kudos, right when I thought I had finally learned everything there is to know in the world, I find out 6 more things. 5 of them in your video. Good job. I'll be paying attention to more of your other videos.

[@FanatikBuilds]

"3/4 dentists recommend seeing a dentist... not sure what the 4th guy is thinking!" Your 6th "thing" is going to bug me!! Cheers Phillip, glad you found us, and I hope you'll enjoy what's to come 😊👍

[@TravisFabel]

Dude. I love this build. It reminds me so much of when I started building. You use what you have to get it all done. Couple small things. I've learned never to use those stupid white bi-metal hole saws, and instead I buy those Diablo red hole saws from home Depot. So whenever you go to get a replacement one because that one burns up, just get one of those ones and I guarantee you it'll work better. While you're there in the plumbing department you can get a deburring tool meant for pipes and it will still work on those steel plates. Much easier than trying to do it neatly with the Dremel.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks so much Travis, appreciate the words of encouragement! Also, thanks for the tips, the bi-metal ones we've got were on sale at Canadian Tire ... but never again! I do think the belts on my drill press could use a replacement too though, they were slipping when I started to apply a bit of pressure. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Grabbed some carbide burrs finally, gosh should have done that years ago! Lol Cheers Travis, hope you'll enjoy what's to come man! 👍

[@dh2360]

Just found this video and I’m hooked on this build. Thanks for posting this project, it’s enjoyable to watch the engineering behind the project.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Glad you found us man! Appreciate the encouragement and hope you'll enjoy what's to come! 👍

[@jeffarchibald3837]

A soft steel flywheel will shed tiny flakes from wear. These will stick in the disk which will then cut away at the flywheel. This will happen rather quickly. Either harden the flywheel or relieve it and add a friction surface. I learned this the hard way. Best of luck.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Hey Jeff, thanks for expressing your concern there, it's 1045 billet which is what I found to be a highly recommended material for building a flywheel. Should be ok as it is and certainly don't want to harden it, as it would then need to be machined again which will likely remove more material than we can allow for. We did at one point consider an aluminum flywheel with a replaceable friction surface but decided against it as even the steel one only weighs 16lbs! Putting a replaceable friction ring on what we've got though is a good fallback, thanks for the suggestion! 😊👍

[@idriwzrd]

Cool build. Glad I found it. Fun fact: the LS4 bellhousing pattern also matches a stock Isuzu Trooper V6 manual trans. Always wanted to replace the anemic 3.2L in my Troop, but could never find a motor.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Sounds like a match made in heaven! :)

[@BuilditUK]

Where would we be without angle grinders... Top work guys, getting that started fitted is impressive

[@FanatikBuilds]

It's a very good question! :) What would we do! Thanks very much, it's appreciated!

[@ernieleithes6545]

You and your dad are truly engineers amazing work it will be so worth it when its finnished.

[@FanatikBuilds]

We're not, but thanks Ernie! 😄 Looking forward to that day but enjoying the process in the meanwhile! Cheers! 👍

[@b9pat]

Absolutely brilliant gentlemen!!!! Your work is right up there with the professional builders!! And to do it all in that TINY garage is amazing. Keep up the great work. The only bad thing is that it’s taking so long to get it done! Can’t wait to see it on the road. Thanks for the great content!!!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Awe shucks! 😊 Thanks very much for the kind words man, means a lot! The small work space is certainly not ideal, but it's actually been kind of fun to see what all can be done if you just think outside the box a bit! ... I can't wait for a bigger shop someday though!! 😂 Cheers!👍

[@Shl0kk]

The amount of thought and diligence is incredible. I know whatever hurdle you'll find a way over ... or through it 😀

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks so much man! Means a lot! 😊 Haha, I enjoy the challenge! 😄👍

[@palmermonsen9098]

Love the project and your ingenuity! Anyone can make something cool with a lot of money but it takes skill to do it on a budget.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks Palmer! The style of building may be necessitated by lack of budget, but I don't see any reason to change... ever! It's way more fun figuring things out and saving some cash at the same time! 😄 Cheers and thanks for encouragement! 👍

[@jamesfragomeni8287]

Might be my favourite build on YT. I've shared your channel with several car guys. Keep it coming.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thank you so much James! 😊 We really appreciate that, if everyone did the same we'd be where we need to be! One step at a time though and you have helped a lot! Hope you'll enjoy what's to come, there's lots left to do! Cheers 👍

[@maxbrouggy3126]

Love the way you think your way around the problems on this build

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thank you Max! 😊 Really appreciate the encouragement! Cheers 👍

[@MarioFunk]

This build just keeps getting better and better. Love the solutions you're coming up with. Keep up the good work, sir!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks so much man! Means a lot and I appreciate the encouragement! 😄👍

[@OEMishGarage]

Excellent work. One measurement you may want to also check is the bellhousing concentricity to the flywheel. This will ensure the transmission side of the bellhousing is lined up with the crankshaft and reduce any sideloading on the input shaft.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks Jeff, yes, I don't have the equipment just yet, but that is something I'd like to verify before we call it finished! 👍

[@Fran-fc9vt]

Awesome everything, the editing, the vídeo, the work. Thanks for sharing this project with us. Greeting from Argentina👏

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks so much Fran! Really glad you are enjoying it all, seriously, it makes it so much more motivating when I know people like what we're up to! Stay healthy and all the best from Canada! 🇨🇦👍

[@jdwxly]

Great job mixing available parts and smart fab work to get that power train together!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks Dennis! It's been fun! Glad to have it crossed off the list though 😅👍 cheers!

[@lynnvogel7316]

Your problem solving skills are simply impressive!!!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks very much Lynn! We really appreciate it! 😊👍

[@Alex138bhp]

Great to see another episode. Signed up for the Petreon plus today as i felt i wanted to show my thanks for keeping me entertained.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks so much Alex, I've finally connected you and the designsaw logo I see elsewhere 😂 sorry I'm so slow! Your support is extremely appreciated and I really hope you'll enjoy what's to come! Feel free to reach out anytime 😄👍

[@Alex138bhp]

@@FanatikBuilds yeah Designasaw is my maker "thing" just finished up a Aston Martin powerwheels build for my daughter, added speed controllers, lot of 3d printing and wrapped it. Fully RC for parental control.

[@FanatikBuilds]

@@Alex138bhp That sounds awesome, lucky little kid! 😄 good idea on the radio control too, nice little safety feature. As she gets older you can also swap in a brushless motor and LiPo 👌😉 Thanks again Alex!

[@davidyates748]

Another great episode guys! I like your approach, adapting and overcoming instead of hitting Summit and blasting your credit card - men after my own heart! I've shared your channel on my facebook for what it's worth, I hope the youtube algorithm starts giving you the promotion you deserve!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks so much David! Haha, indeed, that would have been easier, but it's nicer not having debt to pay off! 👌 Really appreciate the sentiments and also taking time to share with your friends! That's so helpful and I join you in hoping the algorithm starts working with us soon! 😄 cheers sir!

[@rona1144]

That is some great engineering! I have been waiting to see how you were going to do it and you didn’t disappoint. Congratulations on the success.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks very much Ron! Means a lot, we appreciate the encouragement! 👍

[@dustinthecouch2466]

Every video is informative and the work is really good, especially considering the tools at your disposal. Great Job!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks very much man! Really appreciate the encouragement! 😄👍

[@outwrite11]

Great work man. That's a lot of work figuring all that out. Pleased it worked so well.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks man, it was some fiddling, but really happy with how it turned out! Cheers! 😊👍

[@young11984]

Really appreciate the home made manufacturing of needed parts for the starter, 100% precision is not needed to start it but good to see you outsource the flywheel😆. Pretty wild a Jeep bell pattern fit the GM engine and the Mustang T5 was the right input length. Cool build so i subbed.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks man! Haha, yes, AMC owned Jeep at the time and they commonly used engines and running gear from other manufactures - thus this weird bellhousing! Glad to have you along for the ride, and I hope you enjoy what's to come! 👍

[@landyandy9617]

Just found your channel, working through the back episodes. Great build and progress, I’m at the end of a 10 year (3rd) rebuild of my 100” Defender with a LM7, NV4500 and so many custom parts the wife says it’s not even a Land Rover now... keep the updates coming as I’m thinking the LS4 combo would be an ideal drive train for a Locost 7 build.... 😉

[@FanatikBuilds]

Congrats on seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, that's a welcome sight after 10 years! Sounds like an awesome Land Rover, and I have to agree on the LS4 Locost 7 idea 😄 We'll definitely keep the videos coming 👍 Cheers Andy!

[@heartbreakandmotorjive1867]

This is one of my favorite videos from your channel. Really love the starter solution.

[@assessor1276]

Beautifully done - as always!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks man! We really appreciate the feedback and motivation! Cheers! 😊👍

[@phlodel]

@@FanatikBuilds You're a wizard with an angle grinder with a cutoff wheel.

[@FanatikBuilds]

@@phlodel Thanks man, very kind of you! 😊

[@chestrockwell8328]

Great work, I'm in the midst of putting an American v8 into a Japanese sports car, wish I'd seen this a year ago...though it didn't exist a year ago. I'm using a SBF vs the LS platform due to cost and not needing over 400hp. 2 grand for all the big parts is a hell of a deal. You could have a nice side business selling the how to and brackets for the cheaper Ally block LS and T5 combo.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Sounds great Chest! Which Japanese car are you swapping into? The SBF platform is a great option and we might have gone with it if it wasn't for hood clearance! Their intake manifolds are much taller. Ha, some other people have suggested the same thing, maybe I should consider this more seriously! Cheers 👍

[@chestrockwell8328]

@@FanatikBuilds I'm installing my SBF into an 04' RX8. My research shows the 302 8.2" deck engines are a touch smaller front to back and side to side than either the older SBC or the LS platform. An Iron block SBF only gives up about 20 pounds disadvantage to an Aluminum block LS engine. The LS is without question the better platform for higher HP, anything over 400, not that the SBF can not make over 400 but they have a history of not holding up long; although there are also many people who have made over 500hp and rev'd beyond 7k with great long term success so maybe there is a little more to the story. I'm not looking for much more than 400 crank and even 375-ish is fine for my project. For fitment, the pros/cons of SBF and LS are in height, as you have mentioned. There is no intake manifold for a SBF that compares to how low the LS intake is. Additionally the SBF oil pump hangs off the bottom of the block and about the shortest oil pan depth you can go is 5.75 inches, a touch less. Where as all newer engines use a crank snout drive oil pump and skirted blocks so you gain 2-3 inches below crank center line. I'm not using the OEM ford intake due to height and power output limitation vs cost. No idea how much space you have to work top to bottom. A tasteful hood bulge would be far easier that the path you have taken...though you have done a great job that I'm sure will encourage other to follow suit in there projects.

[@FanatikBuilds]

@@chestrockwell8328 Ooh an RX8 eh! That'll be great! ... And a bit more reliable than the rotary 😉 (Rob Dahm just entered the chat) We're only shooting for around 300-350hp as the little GT6 will be roughly ~2200-2400lbs so it should be plenty for a fun ride! Yeah, the factory hood has a power bulge, but it's still pretty tight under there. We're actually clearing better than the original straight 6 so that's nice, still can't imagine there would be room for a carb though. Modifying the hood was a no go from the start for us, we want the car to look factory! Cheers man, have fun with your project and I hope you'll enjoy what's to come here too 👍👍

[@patireland9408]

Very impressive fabrication. Looking forward to the next step in the process.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks very much Pat! Always great hearing from you! Hope you're keeping well and stay tuned for ep21! 😊👍

[@patireland9408]

@@FanatikBuilds Always amazed with your grinder skills, impressed with the welding ability that you have developed and intrigued by the design considerations, research and implementation with only plate material and cardboard patterns. Looking forward to seeing the TIG at work. :)

[@FanatikBuilds]

@@patireland9408 You're very kind Pat, thank you 😊 Cheers!

[@mry82]

Found you via DeBoss' ICS... This is a cool project I look forward to following... Now, back to episode 1!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks man! Glad you found us! Lower your expectations on the early episodes, we've been at this for a while and things have improved with time 😂 lol, hope you'll enjoy all the same though! Cheers 👍

[@mry82]

@@FanatikBuilds Haha. I am sure you do a lot better than my introverted self would. I've watched some other channels evolve and that is always fun too! Cheers (good timing, I just cracked another beer!).

[@FanatikBuilds]

@@mry82 Haha! I'm introverted as well - I really don't love being in front of the camera, but I'm starting to get more comfortable with it! Scripting helps ... and editing! 😂 Enjoy man, cheers!

[@mry82]

@@FanatikBuilds I still haven't managed to get back to it. I am sure I will post some comments to give you some extra "traffic" when I do. I saw the new episode in notifications and need to get started! :)

[@mry82]

@@FanatikBuilds p.s. working and teaching from home during quarantine and being on camera all the time certainly changed my relationship with it!

[@joyota2345]

You guys are my kind of people. I've mated a 1UZ to the same T5 much the same way. I'll be watching and good luck!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Awesome Joe! What are you putting that in? Thanks for the encouragement and I really hope you'll enjoy what's to come! 👍

[@SimpsonsClassics]

Great update love seeing how you guys get round the issues you face with this build. Keep up the good work 👍

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks very much, the encouragement is really appreciated! Hope you'll enjoy what's to come! 👍

[@jakespeed63]

Ingenious old school Hot Rod style build. Impressive techniques being used along the way. You and your helper aka Dad??..must have an engineering background. Subscribed Another car that should be on Jay Leno’s Garage when finished.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks Jake! I really appreciate that! Haha, we're not engineers, but I am a trained industrial millwright so picked up some skills through that 👍 most of what we're doing here has been learned online though. It's a dream to be on Jay's garage someday! To bad there's about 3800kms distance between us 😂 cheers, and welcome to the project!

[@paulmyfinger8272]

Excellent work. Engineering wise and on the video. Need a bigger like button.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Haha, thanks man! Means a lot! 😊👍

[@MrNigel1340]

Excellent work, tidy fabrication and a well executed video, I do know how happy you feel as I had to do the same thing mating a Vauxhall Carlton gearbox to a Peugot turbo diesel engine and had to do the same thing with the starter motor on that conversion, regards Doc Cox.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks very much Doc! You definitely do understand 😄👍 we're glad to have this checked off the list, and I hope you'll enjoy what's to come for the project!

[@desmondharney1185]

Fantastic work.. you make it sound so simple !

[@FanatikBuilds]

Haha, well, the concept is simple enough! Finding the right parts and getting everything working together was a bit harder though 😂 thanks Desmond, appreciate the kind words!

[@denis9450]

Looking good young man

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thank you Denis, appreciate it!

[@alloutofbubblegum8165]

Well, after seeing the amount of time and diligence that you went through just to mount that starter and all of the corresponding issues involving it. I must say congratulations on a job well done. I have always felt that the LS with that bolt pattern arrangement was much better for swapping into cramped spaces. Now if someone would come up with a affordable swap kit that would do wonder's.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thank you, really appreciate that! Agreed, the 60 degree pattern does make it quite a bit more compact. Still not a LOT of room to work with in our car, but it fits better than a traditional 90 degree pattern would have! A few people have suggested I offer a kit, the bellhousing is the hangup for me though, ideally it would be included but they are not exactly common. Finding someone to cast reproductions would be ideal ... need to give it more thought! Cheers man! 👍

[@alloutofbubblegum8165]

@@FanatikBuilds You might not need to, was the only reason that you used the jeep bell housing because it fit the ford T5? What's stopping someone from using the GM style one? Is the starter on the opposite side? I haven't checked yet, but i wonder if there is a aftermarket bell housing available. I am not all that familiar with the GM family of 60 degree engine's.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Good point, not supplying a bellhousing would allow for different applications. Likewise not sure of every variant available, but the 2.2l S10 unit has the starter bump on the drivers side, and is still setup for a Ford T4/T5 so no real reason to use it over this Jeep one! The 2.5/2.8l S10 unit has the GM T5 pattern and starter on the passenger side, but just not sure if it's the same location. I feel trying to solve every solution will be more of a headache than it's worth! If I do anything, it'll probably just be for the setup we have, as at least I can be confident it works! :)

[@guywilson187]

What another treat to see. Epic problem solving and solutions. I know that you have your hands full creating this masterpiece but I for one can't wait for the next update. All the best to you and your Dad and keep it coming. 👌

[@FanatikBuilds]

Appreciate it Guy, hope you're keeping well!

[@wesuriV8]

Hi, Awesome work! Cool project. There is one thing with hydr. throw out bearing and centerforce counterweights. If you are making shifts around or above 6krpm. Those weights bends pressure plate "fingers" at higher rpm and bushes TOB away from the clutch. Then you need to pump your clutch pedal to move TOB close enough to work. You may want to remove the weights or change different pressure plate. Just for your information.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Hmm, didn't look like there was any cause for concern with our exact parts, but thank you for drawing this to our attention, we'll look into it! I'd love to keep the centerforce pressure plate if possible - the extra clamping force will be important as it's a pretty small clutch for our power level! Cheers man 🙂👍

[@peterclark659]

Well done, looking good, if a lot of work! It will be worth it. Can't wait to see it completed 👍

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks very much Peter! It has been a bit of a puzzle, but that's all part of the fun! 😄 Couldn't agree more on seeing it completed, though the build is a huge part of what I enjoy! Cheers! 👍

[@dmjunqueirarv]

Great content guys! Amazing build. Thanks for Deboss Garage for pointing out this channel!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks so much Danilo! Really appreciate the encouragement! Glad you found us through Deboss and I hope you'll enjoy what's to come for this project! 👍

[@manosfarfarelos8666]

Lovely piece of work! Do remember to balance flywheel, crank and clutch kit all together to minimise the rotational losses and potential wear and tear 🙂

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks Manos! We definitely will - though tell me - since the LS crank is already balanced from factory, is it really necessary to use it as well, while balancing the flywheel and clutch? Just unclear on the benefit! 😬 or is it just best practice? Cheers! 👍

[@manosfarfarelos8666]

Good question indeed. It is considered best practice as it's one of the moving parts of the whole assembly so any unevenness of any individual part should in theory be counterbalanced and make the whole assembly balanced correctly. 6 and 8 cylinder engines are far better balanced to start with than 4 cylinders, so it shouldn't be a difficult job I don't think.

[@FanatikBuilds]

@@manosfarfarelos8666 Good to know! There's a local shop I found who does balancing so I'll see what they recommend, but will likely just get it all done as you say! Thanks for the advice! 😊

[@manosfarfarelos8666]

@@FanatikBuilds sounds good! Look forward to the next video!

[@xmo552]

I love this so much. You're doing stuff the same way I've done things: basic tools and lots of brains. I don't know why it's in my recommended, but it's great. I've got a Northstar I've considered swapping around to rwd. I'm the middle of adapting engine to trans to t-case in a Jeep. You would hate my next build.... I'm thinking Olds Rocket in a TR3A. 👍😁

[@FanatikBuilds]

Welcome! Glad the algorithm brought you here 😄 The Northstar was another option I looked into for this project but sadly the DOHC just made it too bulky, pretty cool engine though (once it's studded!) Lol Sounds like a cool Jeep, have fun! As for the TR3A, I say go for it! Though try to get the rocket as far back in the car as possible, as I'd expect the ~670lbs to change the car's handling somewhat 😉 Cheers man! 👍

[@andrewharpin6749]

Good coverage of stuff that is generally avoided by the more mainstream car programs. Probably as A it's complicated, so they don't want to turn off viewers and B it takes a long time, so for a single car per episode show it would consume most of the show. Keep up the good work! 👍

[@FanatikBuilds]

Haha, they'd rather spend more to make more! Not an option for us 😂 Thanks for the kind words of encouragement Andrew, hope you'll enjoy what's to come! 👍👍

[@stevesimons6333]

Very nice work and it will be a great car.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks very much Steve! I sure hope you're right! 😄👍

[@philtucker1224]

Another wonderful episode! The starter motor assembly actually looks real! ( erm, - did you want it to revolve that way? ) Ha ha, only joking! .... best regards to you and your Dad, stay safe and well both of you 👍🇬🇧😊

[@FanatikBuilds]

Haha, don't do that! 😅 Cheers Phil, we're really happy with how it turned out, glad you like it too! Our best regards back, hope you are keeping well! 🇨🇦👍

[@martinmessersmith2900]

Nice fabrication work. You two hove amazing ingenuity to do an amazing job with some tough issues.

[@cstavro]

there is actually an all aluminum version of the 5.3 in trucks called L33. I'd think that would have the correct bolt pattern and starter mount you need.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Absolutely! A lot harder to find and a lot more money around here though! 👍 Plus it would need a new car style intake manifold which isn't exactly cheap either!

[@cstavro]

@@FanatikBuilds cost is always the thing :/ what would you have saved by using off-the-shelf parts? LS parts swap over so that's not an issue. My darling engine is the LV1 4.3L V6. 285 hp and 300lb

[@FanatikBuilds]

@@cstavro The only cheapish aluminum truck LS (vortec) I could find at the local junkyards (LM4) was about $1300 CAD all in, and an intake manifold on eBay runs upwards of $500-800 for a used one. The oil pan and accessory drive would also need to be replaced but so have our LS4 ones. I'm sure you can get some of this stuff cheaper, but these are the realistic prices we have in our area! We got the entire LS4, T5, bellhousing, clutch, throwout bearing, starter and flywheel for a little over $2k ... So it was a decent savings and worth the effort to us! Plus, it's a very small package which fits our tiny car well 👍 Cool, the LV1 is a pretty interesting engine! Have fun with it and hope you'll enjoy the rest of this project Chris!

[@Martmns]

Wow! Absolutely brilliant 'low buck/homebrew/backyard/ boneyard/ make it fit and make it all work' ENGINEERING! Subscribed!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks very much man! It's appreciated, and I hope you'll enjoy what's to come!

[@vernm6189]

I am using the same Center Force Clutch in my 65 mustang , there ball bearing tech makes the Clutch lite at a stop but has the extra clamp force the more power you apply through the Gears.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Yeah it sounds really cool in theory! Heard a few conflicting opinions on the weights causing vibrations after some use, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see! Good to know you like yours though, that's great feedback 👍 cheers Vern!

[@richardcasey7521]

Beautiful LS4 custom starter mount!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks Richard, appreciate it man! 😊👍

[@forestgimblett2364]

We stuffed a 260 and a c 2 auto trans into a TR3.And just toughened the frame up a little , N50-15,where a little too much traction . Leafsprings,rapped around the rear end first burn out . That was back in 1979.You have some good fun , be safe !

[@FanatikBuilds]

Yes the TR frames seem to be better suited to some additional power. Really had no idea when we set out with this car (nearly) 7 years ago, but the entire GT6 drivetrain is pretty much at its limit from factory! Hope you'll enjoy what's to come Forest - cheers! 👍

[@forestgimblett2364]

The car looked good , your's looks way better and more fun . Nice work !

[@jaysonfrank31]

I'm so glad you went this rout and made a video about it and links to someone else who has done the same. I've been working on making a VW rabbit truck rear wheel drive and went with an ls4 because it was aluminum, cheap, and I said "I'll make it work" somehow I stumbled on the same bellhousing And t5 set-up. Without ever finding any evidence of anybody else doing the same. Thank you!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Very cool Jayson! I think you're one of the very few people who've used the Jeep bellhousing so far! I've heard of a couple other LS4/T5 setups (including Scott's of course) but they were with slightly different bellhousing/trans setups! How are you enjoying it in the rabbit truck? Must be pretty spritely! 👍

[@jaysonfrank31]

@@FanatikBuilds well the jeep bell made sense because it was cheap correct bolt pattern and has starter pocket in the correct spot, same reason you went with it. I'm not sure how I like it yet because it's far from done. But I'm sure it will be awesome when it is! Good luck with the rest of your build!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Haha, I know the feeling! 😄 Thanks man, good luck with yours as well!

[@WickedMachineWorks]

Is the ring gear on the correct way? The chamfered side should be facing toward the starter motor. If the starter engages on the flat face of the ring gear it will chip grind and wear it down, and quickly! :)

[@FanatikBuilds]

Yep, this gear doesn't have much of a chamfer, but made sure it was placed in the oven right side up so I couldn't mistake the orientation when I popped it on the flywheel! 👍 Thanks for keeping an eye out for us man!

[@daviddavis1322]

That's an amazing amount of problem solving and direct fabrication

[@FanatikBuilds]

We're really happy with how it turned out! Cheers David 👍

[@daviddavis1322]

Get the adapter tested / cycle tested and you could take it to a machine shop, run it on the CMM, get the report out and model. Do the same for the starter mount block and you can make one or two billet aluminum parts for transverse 6 speed / F40 trans projects. Those transmissions don't have a starter mount too. Getting the LS4 / F40 into something like a fiero is difficult too.

[@l9jjp]

Awesome engineering.. what a clever men they are ... I love watching this build its so well thought out ..this inspires me but makes me realise I am not on their level sadly ..

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks for the kind words Jay! I wouldn't have a clue how to do this if it wasn't for the internet - I've learned most of what I know through reading, watching and trying to do the same! Don't get discouraged, run with your inspiration! 👊👍

[@jeffarchibald3837]

I used 1045 as well. Built a 914/Chevy 350 in the 80s. The composition of the steel makes little difference in particle transfer. That's why flywheels are made of iron as it does not transfer. I can't remember from 35 years ago if the parts failed or we just found the problem when we had the clutch out for something else. My current project is a 70s Maserati Merak with a GM LFX . Love your starter solution.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Very weird, it's something to look out for so thanks for letting us know! Sounds like a fun project enjoy it, and hope you'll like what's to come here! 😊👍

[@jayinmi3706]

Great epsiode! Congratulations on another milestone (and the TIG)!

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks so much Jay! Both for the sentiments and your very kind donation!! It will definately be put to good use, I've got a lot of practice ahead of me before you see any welds on video 😬😊 Cheers sir, hope you and your family are staying healthy! 👍

[@jayinmi3706]

@@FanatikBuilds No problem! We're doing fine, despite a coworker exposing me to Covid last week. I ended up quarantining in my bedroom for 5 days until I could get tested, which came back negative...thankfully. Hope all is well on your end.

[@FanatikBuilds]

@@jayinmi3706 Gosh, not good, glad to hear you are well though! Hope your coworker heals up fast Jay 🙏. We're doing well thanks, though Ontario just entered it's tightest lockdown yet as things aren't headed the right direction... Hopefully people will respect the rules and it will actually help this time as it's getting tiring! Lol Thanks again Jay!!

[@jayinmi3706]

@@FanatikBuilds Supposedly he's cleared to return to work. So, it's good cause he's a good kid and I'd hate to see anything happen to him.

[@jayinmi3706]

@@FanatikBuilds Also, congrats on the 3rd place finish in the Top 25 underrated channels category on the ICS.

[@daddosjeffery]

That's some fine work there can't wait for the rest

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks Adrian! Welcome, and I hope you'll enjoy what's to come! :)

[@zokusharuuku1091]

Very impressive job so far

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks man! Really appreciate that! Love your user pic by the way, I owned a very similar looking STI for a while before it blew up 😅👍

[@jap1378]

Very innovative work! I love your reactive engineering adjustments.True Hot Rodding..

[@paulwhite7475]

Awesome again . I told everyone I know about this build .

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thank you so much Paul, that's really helpful and very appreciated! 🙏😊👍

[@nigelblake5679]

impressive home engineering guys

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks Nigel! Fun to see what can be accomplished with basic tools! 🙂

[@nimblemotorsports]

Nicely done! Looks great, and well explained as always. So time consuming doing this kind of work. Have almost same issue with my Audi v8 mated to a 944 transaxle, or not mated...yet. Custom everything, and partly why it is still not even close to done.

[@FanatikBuilds]

You've got it Jack! So much time can be spent in seemingly trivial details, but it's all important! Sounds like an awesome project you've got there, have fun with it! 😄👍

[@1alex1311]

I've seen ppl take off those counterweights on the clutch because there heavy and can fall off. Great build love it.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Interesting, I'd love to keep them as the additional clamping force will be important... but I don't need them falling off! Hadn't heard that before so thanks for letting us know 👍 Cheers Patrick!

[@1alex1311]

If you get a chance check out danny Johnson's video. Removing centerforce counter weights.

[@FanatikBuilds]

@@1alex1311 Had a look, very interesting. Don't see how they'd fall off based on the design though!...? Maybe the interlocking section cracks over time. I really like it still so we may just try it out as it is, but it's good to know about this in case we have a vibration later on that can't be traced. Cheers man!

[@sbf_fox2434]

Their weight is how a CenterForce pressure plate works.

[@boothmotors5670]

Spec now makes a flywheel and clutch option for the LS4 with Fiero trans (Muncie or Getrag) as well as F23 trans which should work with the T5. Moroso and LS4king now also make an oil pan with starter mount. Both are used often for Fiero swaps. V6 firebird (3800) trans may also be another option for a manual transmission

[@fonhollohan2908]

Another great milestone, I can fully understand your excitement. Well justified for sure. Good Job..

[@MrCaprinut]

Awesome episode! Have been waiting on a new eposide since last time :-) It's a joy to watch this coming together. Keep rockin'

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks very much my friend! Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the encouraging words! Stay healthy and all the best! 😄👍

[@hbetz5300]

How convenient is that bell housing? Awesome

[@FanatikBuilds]

Indeed! Thank you AMC! 🙏😄

[@aussiebloke609]

Coming along nicely, my friend - nicely indeed. It vurks! :-)

[@FanatikBuilds]

It vurks indeed! What a relief I can tell you! 😄 Always great hearing from you sir, hope things are going well down there! We're currently in the tightest lockdown since the beginning of the Rona, and I've thought many times about how I should really move to "aussieland"! 😂 Glad you guys have your heads screwed on - stay healthy, and cross your fingers that we can all get back to normal soon! 🤞🇨🇦

[@andyplage6590]

Have hand iit to you as you have overcome a serious solution to fitting fwd LS into RWD installation great work

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks Andy! Wouldn't have tried it without Scott leading the way, but I think out take on the design turned out pretty decent! Hope you'll enjoy what's to come for the project 👍

[@keithsutton100]

Awesome work, really enjoying following this project. Very inspiring and informative.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks so much Keith! Really appreciate it! 😊👍

[@keithsutton100]

@@FanatikBuilds I have a 67 GT6 in the garage, all there but most of it in boxes. Already have the 302 roller cam block for a 'Shelby Triumph GT8' - keeping the hp down cause I don't want to have to build a whole frame :D

[@FanatikBuilds]

@@keithsutton100 Haha, I don't blame you, it certainly added to the project timeline! Sounds awesome Keith, keep us updated! 😄👍

[@koc2648]

Excellent work. Keep it up.

[@FanatikBuilds]

Thanks very much man, we will certainly try our best to! 👍😄