The Citröen C6 Was an Ultra-Quirky French Luxury Sedan

[@jgodin312]

I remember Jeremy Clarkson complained that the C6 wasn't weird enough, for a big Citroen. He said things like, "it's front wheel drive, when it should be side-wheel drive"

[@carstenweiland7896]

Ah Top Gear S08E05 when James met that Scottish lady who taught him how to drive, bought a C6 because of that, love it still.

[@Mr.Marbles]

^front left wheel and rear right wheel. "nous avons toutes les roues motrices à la maison"

[@patrickmartin3322]

@@Mr.Marbles that’s diagonal wheel drive, not side wheel drive

[@coolstorybro9946]

Ahah! Funny bro

[@Mr.Marbles]

@@patrickmartin3322 i know. that would be even better. rear engine too because why not.

[@lordjohnpp]

Dude you've missed a lot of cool options when you talked for this car. The head lights are turning when you are turning the wheel. There is a sport mode for the suspension if you don't want to roll so much. When you gain speed the car automatically become more stable and the wheel - more direct. There is also sport mode for the transmission and a snow mode for it too. All the seats are heated including those on the back with a separate control for each one. I'm personally own the model from 2011 twin turbo V6 3.0 liter diesel with 240 hp. and the heads-up display can show the speed and navigation information together. It has also 10 gb hard disk for music storage and of course very good sound system with 12 speakers. And for the airbags, they are 8 in total and also covered backseat passengers. There are also other things like backseats cupholders, interior lights including such for the floor also. And the external lights you wander about are just for emphasis of car silhouette at night. But you are an American we can forgive you. 😄

[@muvit817]

there's the hood airbag aswell for pedstrian safety

[@arride4590]

@@muvit817 😆

[@arride4590]

The other features he did not mention because its common features.

[@imnotamechanic3491]

@@arride4590 He spent ages on the 'novelty' of the middle seat belt, which was commonplace on hatchbacks/MPV's in Europe at the time (might still be tbh), as they banned lap belts in early 00's and a roof mounted belt was the best option, but being a hatch you needed a clear load bay when seats were down. The only unsual thing is that this is a saloon (sedan) and has this feature.

[@shithead4767]

He is reviewing the 2005 model

[@NismoakaNismovsky]

Adding to what Doug already said (as a C6 and Vel Satis owner): - top tier versions had electrically reclined rear seats - xenon lamps move along with the steering wheel, enhancing visibility in the corners - hood has explosive materials near the hinges and in case of hitting a pedestrian they lift the hood few inches, providing a softer hit for the pedestrian - pneumatic suspension had a camera below the front bumper and it was helping determining how to damp a certain pothole. Additionally, the computers controlling the front axle were sending signals to the rear axle, so even if the front passengers felt a bump, rear seat occupants were even more insulated from any road imperfections Also, Doug - this weird rear window really helps with rain :)

[@khalidacosta7133]

C6 also had Peugeot's AMVAR suspension system... electronically variable dampers. Doug never pushed the Sport button :@ Also suspension is double wishbone and multilink, all aluminium including subframes!

[@guille19981998]

Wow a Vel Satis! My neighbor had one and I loved that car when I was a kid, let’s say I found its design interesting :) Another Renault I loved was the Avantime, I really liked the rear lights that looked like hourglasses

[@costinteodorovici1501]

The rear spoiler does have an aerodynamic function, but it’s intended to create better air flow for enhanced fuel economy. I’m always watching my rear view mirror when hitting 130km/h to see it pop up - and it stays up until you go down to 90 again. It is really quiet inside as Doug noticed as all windows are laminated. Steering wheel is power adjusted.

[@gracz24PL]

Everybody know what c6 was better than w221 because unique design and legendary Citroen suspension. Sadly Citroen is not making cars with that suspension anymore. Last generation C% is very last of cars that used this suspension. btw. Old Rolls-Royce after 59 had citroen suspension.

[@costinteodorovici1501]

@rasa porosangue can’t really say for sure, but it never bothered me while driving in the rain.

[@sisyphus1811]

Living in Europe, I love how Doug takes cars that are everywhere here - our everyday cars - and tells us how quirky and strange they are. I guess those terms are relative!

[@marcelhannover3]

I just bought a C6 - it is even for European standards very quicky, but so is the Roadmaster I had before that (again for European eyes). I guess if you want a normal car just buy a BMW.

[@somosdeamstrad]

Most American cars are weird for Europeans indeed. Sales numbers prove it

[@earlburns4431]

Doug's a loveable automotive idiot. At least regarding the Citroen DS. That car was about 40 or 50 years ahead of it's time. My parent's had some friends who owned one. I was a kid in grade school but still recall how quiet and smooth the DS was to ride in. Front wheel drive, five speed all synchronized transmission and hydraulic suspension system: no body else had that in the late 60s to early 70s.

[@BellaAndrea4]

Well. Europe is kinda uhhh yeahhh so. Doug’s right.

[@MitchZero9]

Even a German would find a Citroen wierd!

[@wa2804]

Citröen C6: "I'm the quirkiest guy around" Renault Avantime: "Hold my champagne"

[@jordanseay216]

I’d love to see an avantime review.

[@bsosmoove]

Early 2000s European automobiles were something else 😂

[@vibingwithvinyl]

@@bsosmoove Well... French automobiles. Germans were quite serious, as usual.

[@bsosmoove]

@@vibingwithvinyl yeah thats true. France was making cars that I used to doodle in elementary school

[@lytho9542]

wait until you see the Lancia Thesis

[@orvarino]

As a Citroën C5 owner I can attest: Citroën has the best solutions for problems that do not exist.

[@fernandogimenez7520]

The c5 v6 and the alfa Romeo 159 jts are my dream cars.

[@lies137]

we had a 2002 c5 2.0 hdi.. that car is out of this world ..

[@JokubasCmieliauskas]

@@lies137 same here, i had 2.2 hdi c5 2003

[@JustinAEgan]

Not fair.... You made me laugh!

[@timlolxP]

@@lies137 I hated the automatic transmission in the c5. 4 gears such a peace of junk. The suspension tho was really good. The c6 is a wonderful car, my father has it in a garage stored away. When I had the chance to drive it, especially on the autobahn, it was a joy. It had so much tech in it and clever ideas for the time. The white/creme leather looks also so good on this car.

[@ManAcadie]

When it comes to Quirks Citroen is hands down the winner ever time.

[@franciscomartins6354]

Renault Avantime entered the chat

[@jomaoliveira7949]

@@franciscomartins6354 Avantime is all about design but luxury Citroën is just QUIRK (design, concept, technology and mechanical) in the last 100 years (TA, DS, SM, CX, XM, C6).

[@heroforhire6921]

@@franciscomartins6354 Saab hold my Swedish beer

[@mabs503]

SAAB says hmmm... if it still existed. The C6 cupholders are actual SAAB parts, and the dark instrument panel mode was first introduced on SAAB 9-5 in 1997... but SAAB had fewer ashtrays of course.

[@AutoAutopsy]

@@mabs503 my exact thoughts when watching both of those parts of the video, lol

[@deanbarnes1252]

I love Citroens so much! Yes, they are weird and quirky, but in a charming way. They have so much character. They have personality. They were so advanced but in a subtle way.

[@bestattitude]

As a french guy, I've been waiting to see this review coming out ever since I saw a snippet of it at the very beginning of one of your other videos, months ago during the Caaars And Biiids advertising thing. 😁 I'm sooo thrilled you've finally released this very awaited C6 review! As you said, the Citroën C6 is a very quirky car (even for us) and certainly one of the strangest of French cars! French makers were never able to compete with the Germans on the upper market segments, and the C6 is one of the biggest failures in the history of the French car industry. Only about 23.400 units were made during the entire production run, which is an insanely low figure. Shamingly so. The Renault Vel Satis was another huge failure on the same segment, and both models were on sale during (roughly) the same period of time. Both were good cars, but too weird to attract E-Class and 5 Series buyers. Of course, the brand names also did come into play, as Citroën, Peugeot and Renault are just mainstream manufacturers, far from the hype and the strong reputation of Mercedes, BMW and Audi. But still, you missed quite a few interesting features on the C6, and some things you've said are wrong. First, the wood trim is real wood. Then, the climate vents can be closed by just turning their wheel all the way down, which makes them go flush with the dashboard and kind of disappear (or blend in, if you will). Those other wheels you've turned on the sides of the center screen, they control the upper vents designed to redirect the airflow towards the windshield, allowing for a softer air conditioning experience (not to be mistaken for the windshield defroster, which is yet another thing). Then, the head up display can indeed display the speed, the navigation directions and some other informations, all at the same time. The higher trim levels were equipped with all-around double glazing for even better sound deadening, and with directional bi-Xenon headlights. Those higher trim levels could also come with optional electrically adjustable and heating rear seats (but then you would lose the folding capability). Did you notice that the "infotainment" system is the same as those you would find in a Fiat, an Alfa Romeo or a Maserati? That's because PSA and Fiat Group had a partnership at that time (they built minivans and commercials in common). And you also missed out quite a few important things in the suspension department. The 4 cylinder models came with an already sophisticated system, but the 6 cylinder models had all the bells and whistles in terms of suspension : the Hydractive with AMVAR (AMortissement VARiable = adaptive damping). This last generation of hydropneumatic suspension system is the most advanced Citroën has ever made, and it allowed for both high level comfort and excellent handling, although, of course, the C6 was no sports car by any means. It was "la pièce de résistance", truly a very refined suspension and a key feature of this car. But it was expensive to build, expensive to maintain, and Citroën no longer makes it. The C6 is the last big sedan Citroën has built in the true "Citroën fashion" with all its weirdness (and poor reliability), and even here in France, we don't get to see one all that often. But C6s in good condition, with low mileage and with the petrol V6 engine, are becoming more and more sought after, and their market value tends to go up! Some say that this car is a future collector! I almost bought myself one, but then... nah! I rather went for an E-Class, which is my daily driver and never lets me down. Anyway, thank you Doug for this great video! I can tell by the smile on your face, that you had a great time reviewing this very unusual car.

[@tonypereira2054]

Amazing reply. Merci beaucoup

[@Hattonbank]

You sound like you wish you had one. Yes, the reliability might not be a good as other cars, but the passion that you get with a C6, the pleasure of owning it, the look of it, these things are worth trading some reliability forIf you have a beautiful woman she may spend more money on clothes, hair, jewelry, but the result......................!

[@bestattitude]

@Jack Torrance Wow that's very kind of you! Thank you very much Jack 😊

[@bestattitude]

@@tonypereira2054 Thanks to you Tony! 😀

[@bestattitude]

@@Hattonbank As I said at the end of my (loooong) comment, I almost bought a C6. In fact, I ordered one a few years ago, but the dealer wasn't able to deliver the car within a reasonable delay. In the meantime, I had read lots of bad feedbacks about this car's reliability, and I decided to cancel my order and to buy a Mercedes E-Class. But I'm with you on what you said Bernard! It's a very special car, and I'm sure it's worth the few tradeoffs. 😉

[@marcosperezotero2637]

Doug, you forgot to talk about some features, like the "active front hood" that the C6 has. This car has a special hood hinges with a pyrotechnic charge that in case you hit a pedestrian, rises the rear part of the hood to minimise the injuries to the pedestrian. This C6 also has directional xenon headlights, wich turns with the front wheels when you are cornering It also has frameless windows with laminated glass in all four doors

[@9.5.9.5]

@@yungboicontigo9278 bad bait

[@bonzobonanza]

Doug got distracted by all the quirks! 😂

[@donkmeister]

@@yungboicontigo9278 It's not Doug hate... he has to keep his videos moving, keep them snappy and interesting so doesn't always get to demonstrate every single quirk or feature, I don't think he claims to. But, the comments below a Doug video are always worth reading because someone who has more intimate knowledge of the car will come up and say things like "that feature you thought was weird - here's the reason they did it that way" or "also it has x, y and z". I like that, it's knowledge sharing from car person to car person and I've learned stuff from it.

[@simasbieksa1995]

Also a sport mode! 😁

[@rickc303]

@@yungboicontigo9278 easy there, go rub one off and try again

[@khalidacosta7133]

I think Doug missed a few features out. The C6 was the only car that combined Peugeot's AMVAR system with Citroen's Hydroactive system. The dampers AND suspension was adjustable, over 50 times per second. The wallowy ride is what gives it comfort... but if Doug pushed the "Sport" button, the dampers AND suspension would stiffen to give it far more cornering prowess... courtesy of it's all aluminium front double wishbones and multilink rear... with all aluminium subframes. This is to simplify the suspension, it's far more complex, the hydropenumatic system can actually reduce body roll massively when in sport mode and also helps you change a wheel too! Other notable facts is the car has cornering headlights, which swivel when taking bends. All the glass is double glazed to reduce road noise. The infotainment system will automatically dial the authorities and give the position in the event of a crash, which it even has a battery backup system! Of course, if you pop a simcard into it, then you have a full onboard phone too. HVAC system has individual automatic vent control for passenger and driver, which works superbly. There's far more but all I can think of right now. How doug drived it without pushing the sport button... is beyond me... this is a french car, the sport button actually makes it sporty, unlike modern german cars which just makes the exhaust louder!

[@Bogdan00]

I appreciate your comment, I totally agree with you and I'm happy that other people appreciate this car as much as I do. I don't know how he could gave this car a 7 in comfort if Rolls Royce literally used the same suspension patent.

[@michelbeauloye4269]

Thank you very much Khalid! You rightly pointed out qualities of this marvelous car that Doug just missed for the simple reason that he is not used to such sophistication. Lack of power: to ride in comfort on the French "autoroutes" at the speed limit of 130 km/hr, you do not need a 6 liters engine. For info, the max speed is around 200 km/hr and max fuel burn 12 liters/100 km (Those who want to convert those figures into their local ones are free to do so, I am free NOT to do so).

[@denalisiomontpellier4064]

2005 jaguar XJ c.a.t.s. was better anyway, better comfort and better handling. I drove back to back a C6 3.0 V6 and an XJ 3.5 recently

[@Bogdan00]

@@denalisiomontpellier4064 There is no possible way a classic.suspension to be more comfortable than a hydropneumatic o e

[@georgidimitrov5225]

As a former XM owner I can confirm about the Hydroactive suspension and the sport button. It really makes a difference on a mountain road.

[@gregthompson7018]

Doug, I own one of these. Along with a S 55, a 740 2000, and a Audi S8. The C6 is the smoothest to drive. It’s quite, cheap to run, it floats. The Head Up display DOES show speed and nav at the same time. Mines travelled 270,000 ks and is still a pleasure to drive.

[@gbrnr]

The last true Citroën 😍

[@TheJetJONES]

And now there are Citroën AND DS

[@TheSkyline35]

Tu te fais du mal, la souffrance du sauvetage de ta C6 !

[@romainfe]

C666 !!! 🔥🔥🔥 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqKrqJqOfJxredk

[@edwardvalivonis23]

Definitely, this was the car that I choose from a dealer

[@DexterSkelter]

Exactement!! J'ai pensé à toi directement quand j'ai vu la vignette. Doug avait l'air heureux de présenter cette ultra quirky C Six.

[@artemkatelnytskyi]

Citröen really lives up to its slogan, "Creative technology".

[@242Evangelion]

Citroën and Saab made it their way. No matter if it was cost effective to make. They made cars for everyday drivers.

[@denalisiomontpellier4064]

Used to

[@TheBarth79]

That slogan minds -car mechanic must be creative to repair it.😁

[@Secrecy30]

Not anymore unfortunately since PSA decided to keep the brand as a low budget producer. They are using DS as a "luxury brand" with questionable success

[@artemkatelnytskyi]

@@Secrecy30 Actually, I haven't heard about Citroen in a while now.

[@madearl]

With regards to handling, German magazine auto motor und sport did a comparison with the BMW 5 series, and the C6 was actually so much quicker on the test track that they felt the need to write an op-ed on how this is not a real Citroën any more what with all the sportiness. I've been owning a C6 for 11 years, bought new, and this car continues to amaze me. It's not built for traffic light duels, it's one of the best cars for long Autobahn or highway journeys. It does 240 kph, and at 160 kph my wife can still adjust her make-up, that's how good the suspension is. The styling is somewhat art deco with a theme of straight lines and half-circles plus citations from former styling icons in the Citroën family, like the DS, the CX, and the SM. I think it's gorgeous. It's a car built for the Citroën enthusiast, of which unfortunately there weren't enough. It does not have the aggression cars of that market segment usually display, it has elegance and understatement.

[@Emppu_T.]

It's so much more interesting than anything the germans put out there.

[@JAILUTB]

Exactly! Citröen's Hydroneumatic suspensions seem too soft because they seem to be intended to be comfortable. But when you actually push them to the limit they show they hold the car on the turn much better than stiffer springs sport suspensions.

[@ΙωάννηςΑθανασόπουλος-η4ι]

@@JAILUTB Many French cars had body roll but they had very good handling. Citroen 2cv , Citroen Cx .

[@blairwilliams136]

The styling is simply beautiful, I love the art deco look. I wish we had these here in Canada, I would love to daily one of these.

[@BP-cx6kk]

Autozeitung tested C6 V6 hdi on their test track and its slower than most german car. Its veeery slow. Its slower than mercedes X 190 hp diesel pickup by 2,2s and nissan navara dci by almost 2 secs, its absurd. XD 5 series will crush this in race track to the bones and stop spreading bs.

[@airsoftcliff]

I am french and I have this car. This car is the most comfortable car in the world (she has some awards for that, for real !). This car was not à big success, but in the future she will take à good value. 👍 I paid my car about 8% of it's original price (in good condition)

[@WLFYBEATS]

Well, at least the technology is sold very well. Rolls royce even uses technology from that car. Props to citroen for the technology, but the look is very, as he would say, quirky. 😅

[@erikgranqvist3680]

The highest setting on Citroën hydropneumatic suspension also means you have zero suspension. It becomes rock hard at that level. About reliability: Citroëns suspension was actually quite good. They held together way better the just about any air suspension out there. My twin brother is a Citroën nerd.

[@KurterinoVD]

Not only was it more reliable than probably any other mass produced air or hydraulic suspension, it's also way cheaper to repair when something goes wrong. The main part (the spheres that replace the spring and damper) cost just around 100$ and take less than an hour to install, whereas other brands like Mercedes and Jaguar will sell you replacement parts for their systems (like hydraulic dampers) usually for thousand or more...

[@TheEtno81]

I would say that a japanese air suspension is more reliable..Lexus 😏

[@russjiao-long5387]

you are french? citroen peugeot are amazing unique cars.

[@valentinexristov8915]

@@TheEtno81 Air suspensions are never reliable. And,who cares? Air is not coming even close to Hydropneumatic! I've driven air Mercs (new and old) and they are not good as my C5. Neither cheap or reliable.

[@chrisdavidson911]

@@russjiao-long5387 more reliable than range rover air suspension, but that's about it

[@dr_skipwith]

I've never heard a more funky seat belt chime in my life. Had me grooving.

[@bojned]

Quite common for PSA cars in Europe (Peugeot and Citroen). They share a lot of components too.

[@strahinjakerezovic104]

@@bojned moj 308 se tako čuje,meni ništa neobično

[@beamy.6622]

Not joking that chime is burnt into my brain FOREVER. We had a Peugeot 207 and whenever someone had themselves unbuckled or we put heavy stuff on a chair and detected that "someone" is sitting there, it just started beeping. Firstly it was subtle, then it got louder went on for 2 minutes then it got the loudest. So yea, it's definitely funky but I'll never forget it. Edit - I stopped at the part when he started talking about the chime, didn't know that he mentioned the chime getting louder

[@bojned]

@@strahinjakerezovic104 Nemaju oni to u Amerikama 😁

[@lucabeckr]

@@beamy.6622 It stops after approximately 3 minutes after all…

[@AlbertSpice]

That "hidden" door pocket is so good I'm surprised more companies don't implement them into their cars. This would look so good in something like a RR or a Bentley.

[@dapprman]

think the springs have gone on that one as well as it's a soft close cover, what we saw in the video was too fast.

[@petercrosland5502]

Advanced years mean that I now drive Xsara Picasso - through choice! It's 16 years old. It's door pockets are designed to hold a 1 litre bottle of wine in all 4 doors, party time when you get home. They have actually put a picture of a wine bottle on the trim panel - lest we forget.

[@paulsonjeff]

You could put your weed in there

[@seba_fr]

The main issue on this mechanic when we developed it was... The grease... Really bad. It works fine in tbe beginning and year after year.. the grease will lose its characteristics. And keep the constant speed was a nightmare.

[@AlbertSpice]

@@paulsonjeff Police does uno reverse with Papa Dougs video

[@TheCat1132]

That audio control behind the steering wheel is very common for french cars, Peugeot and Renault also have it. It's actually very comfortable and easy to use once you get used to it. My dad had a C5 for 13 years and it also had a lot of the c6s features. I found the adjustable height of the suspension to be very cool altough if you raised the height, the car would automatically go back down if you drove above 50 kph. Also the dashboard was huge, it had like 8 dials and instruments. It also had a lot of equipment for a car from the early 00's like automatic wipers, rain sensors, automatic ac, a colled glove box... most of the stuff we can today get only as extra option and in top trim packages.

[@cubejoeri]

My 2000 ford focus had the same, and I still think it's a lot more ergonomical than buttons on the face of the steering wheel. When holding the wheel, your fingers are more or less in that position, and the fact that they don't rotate along makes them easier to locate. Not sure why all manufacturers went to steer buttons these days. Also the chime getting louder if you ignore it is like that in any care I've driven in the last 15 years...

[@damilolaakanni]

I have never seen that in a Peugeot or a Renault before...maybe they weren't in the models I've ridden in.

[@albertoascari2542]

I had the C5 2.2. Lovely car

[@jkbm]

Doug: "Look how weird and quirky and French this is!" Me, a French person: "For a Citroen, this is quite a normal car. I would have loved a few more quirks." I really hope that Doug also reviews the Citroen Ami and GS that can be seen in the background!

[@gebezeira]

Doug would be impressed with the C4 fixed center steering wheel and all that buttons around it... LOL

[@emilrijsemus4178]

The new Citroen ami or the old one? I'd say both

[@Arachnosoft]

Even for us French folks, the C6 was indeed a very bizarre car... 😂 François from GBnRR will agree with that! 🤣

[@itsg4el]

Doug hasn’t seen the new C4 yet for sure 😂

[@itsg4el]

@@Arachnosoft it’s not bizarre… it’s unique and I truly love it

[@Firebolt1729]

Doug has been incredible this year, really stepped up a level, if that was even possible. Keep it up Doug!

[@Firebolt1729]

@T a t s u h i s h a©🌹 Ban this bot

[@LITTEULCEVENN]

Wait for the Clio V6 review !

[@PanLukash]

Doug is one of this guys that can only be better.

[@johnnymichael1804]

He just had a kid. I think it's safe to say, he's keeping "it" up.

[@johnnymichael1804]

I want Doug to review Jimmy Hendrix 69 Cadillac Eldorado, just so he can say "aand those are the quirks and features of Jimmy Hendrix Cadillac Eldorado, now it's time to get it out on the road and see how it jives." 😏

[@MagicNash89]

Please do more non-German, non-British, non-Italian European cars!!!

[@randalica92]

What's left? Frenchies, Dacia, Lada, KTM, and the practically-german Seat and Skoda? Also note that some Suzukis are basically hungarian.

[@neovenom9833]

It would be impressive if he can review a Donkervoort D8 or Gillette Vertigo.

[@WolfgangMahringer]

Yes please, for instance the NSU Prinz to be seen in background here 18:51

[@eded9202]

@@randalica92 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automobile_manufacturers_of_Europe

[@Josh-hv5ni]

@@randalica92 Volvo and Saab

[@henryhawthorn8849]

One thing that Doug failed to mention about the Citroen C6 is that the wheel arches don’t protrude into the rear seats. Instead, the wheel arches are adjacent to the trunk; which I think it’s a clever design because it gives the rear passengers a more spacious, and less intrusive cabin. Also not mentioned, is that in some Citroens the steering wheel instantly centers itself each time after a left or right turn. But perhaps that particular 2006 Citroen C6 had a conventional steering.

[@darthbandi3026]

This"notmoving" center was in C4 and C5

[@aaaabababa]

the self centerin system was last used in the CItroen XM:

[@jgjunior19]

@@aaaabababa and it was called DIRAVI

[@Hipas_Account]

I am extremely happy seeing the C6 get a review. From seeing it in a small bit during one of those Cars & Bids bits, i have been waiting daily for this video to pop up. Keep up the great stuff, especially from the Lane Auto Museum.

[@joaocerqueira9902]

Same!!!!!

[@mariosp6393]

I owned one of these in rural England and Doug, you do this version of the Hydropneumatic Activa III Suspension a real disservice. It had the ability to dynamically stiffen the suspension and roll bars to improve cornering over versions of the suspension seen in previous models such as the CX, BX and XM. Couple of quirks you missed: Swivelling headlights with the steering. The suspension makes it easy to change the (massive and expensive) tyres. Full height on the suspension, insert jack, couple of turns and the wheel is off the ground.

[@cra_55]

There's a lot of similarities between this car's styling and this new age of electric sedans. It was truly ahead of its time.

[@katzicael]

Almost all Citroen are ahead of their time :)

[@Reckefisch]

@@katzicael Well, they were. Nowadays, Citroën and their upscale DS-variants are as boring as they can be because PSA wants to attract a wider audience, that doesn't care about neat little gimmicks and instead just looks for rather affordable, mediocre and unsurprising means of transportation. The introduction of the DS-series and the discontinuation of the hydropneumatic suspension, that went along with it, really marked the downfall of Citroëns charming weirdness and drove a lot of their fans away from the brand. I'm really glad, that my father still has his Mk. III C5 and his old XM, these things are just something else. The C5 especially, which is basically a less "artsy" looking C6, is a fantastic cruiser that made trips across Europe feel like taking a stroll.

[@milosstepanovic336]

@@Reckefisch actually DS and in turn citroen itself still uses hydropneumatic suspension, for the top of the line models, the difference being that the driver no longer has control over the suspension like the older models, such as this C6, nowadays it's totally automatic.

[@automation7295]

@@Reckefisch I guess you also hate people who drive Citroën and their upscale DS-variants? I bet you also yell at other people for driving cars you don't like.

[@erander7879]

as someone who has owned and still have french cars of that era in family, these were near all ahead of their time and more features than you'd expect, reliability is brought up as their issue, but if you avoid few engines usually they are very reliable just gotta make sure to have someone that knows how to work on electrics

[@celebrityrog]

A lot of France is extremely dark with a lot of countryside and mountain areas. Keep in mind, while Paris is massive, most major cities in France simply aren't that big as American ones. So having a cluster of screens that can be dimmed or turned off except for the most necessary information helps a driver see better in the night in these areas as the light isn't brightly reflecting in their eyes and preventing from seeing through the windshield as well. It's like a silent safety feature.

[@TheJetJONES]

The C6 is on more example why I consider Citroën as "Art on wheels" 😀

[@JokubasCmieliauskas]

agree!

[@javathehut7285]

“Art” 😖 It’s about as beautiful as a donkey in my opinion Maybe I’m being to harsh. But I still wouldn’t buy it.

[@wojciechmuras553]

An audio stalk was the de facto norm in all French cars of the era. Actually, I can't remember any early 2000's Frenchie I've owned that didn't have one!

[@ixcutamp8059]

put on your seatbelt PUT ON YOUR SEATBELT *_PUT ON YOUR SEATBELT_*

[@ixcutamp8059]

My parents used to have a Renault Megane II and the seatbelt chime got louder and louder. It was so annoying you HAD to put your seatbelt on.

[@LaFritePerreGoat]

Actually citreon and peugot still use this stalk currently. Must be a bargain to produce for them. Look definitly out of place with this 90s round biodesign in their new interiors

[@ixcutamp8059]

@@LaFritePerreGoat I have a Peugeot partner van and it uses the exact same chime

[@vicmanvalfre96]

@@LaFritePerreGoat Well they're really well designed, I'm glad they've kept them.

[@dantoes1]

The Doug score was not right, -4 Styling? this car is truly timeles and beautiful; 3 Handeling?, no it isnt a sportcar, however you didnt talk about sport mode. That siffer tbe suspension/steering Less cornering etc - 5 for features? You missed on a lot of stuff. Like a lot op peple addressed in the comments, the airback under the hood for pedestrian crash, dubble glace windows, moving lights, active roadscanning for better suspension, heated seats, buildin harddrive for music, etc etc. 7 for comfort? The hydro pneumatic suspension eats speedbumbs for breakfasts, and is superior on the highway. Should at least be a 8.

[@Bylov6812]

He fucked up. Probably not the first time. But it's his score, so I don't necessarily care.

[@goncaloterrivel1]

Doug would not know how to rate a bike even if it's life depended on it...I guess he rates stuff according to his own tastes...Just listen to the 760Li review...the guy says that 440bhp is "ok" not super powerfull...I mean sure...maybe if I drove a huge muscle car everyday that would be ok...But speaking to a global audience that's not the kind of stuff you should say...I mean for most europeans cars usually have 100 to 150 bhp...that´s the norm over here. And whats up with the 0 to 60 times?? 8 seconds in a almost 2 ton car is great!! Given the power that it has is fine! And yes he missed most of the importante features of the C6...and I do say that to give a 3 mark for handling...this guy clearly does not know what he's got in his hands...But yeah...I bet his Defender rides better...LOOOL or not...

[@Adotsupplythehood]

doohg

[@yigithan3713]

beautiful? cmon man...

[@mohamedansary3478]

Average fr*nch(🤮) car fan:

[@augustosoler1636]

This car could come out today as a new model and still look modern and amazing

[@ericrose3978]

Minor corrections: - The climate vents: the top mounted wheels are for the draiftless air dome behind the entertainment screen which was a major advertising point, if you want to close the normal dashboard vents, you just turn the wheels next to them all the way down, they shut like blinds. -The HUD can display speed and navi info at the same time, the navi stuff is situational though, it just shows them when you cycle through the modes. -the dark button also kills the dashbaord lighting on the highest setting, great feature. Also, yes, the chime gets louder and louder.

[@emilrijsemus4178]

Yes, Doug really has never had a Citroen cuz it's normal to have these things, but this is high spec.

[@fredgien]

Some cars have adjustable rear seats.And the bonnet goes up in case of a collision with a pedestrian and, and….

[@emjayay]

Doug often does not understand various details of cars he reviews.

[@jean_sebastien]

@@fredgien Yeah that's knowns as Loung Pack, the one of the only two option, the other is a glass roof

[@crabbypadty393]

Did you own one?

[@TheHadrian54]

I think what Citroen does is truly remarkable. It's like they're constantly throwing new ideas on the wall but they don't wait to see if something sticks, they just keep adding new ideas and removing old ones. It's almost like they don't care about capitalizing off their innovations, they just want to innovate for the sake of it.

[@PoloDaBear]

These days their cars are actually engineered quite normally, they just have cool funky designs instead. (see the new Citroen C4)

[@arthemis1039]

They also shyly drive innovation. For example, in 2014 they made the Cactus that had an LED band that looked like a front light bar (which you find on concepts) while hiding the headlights lower. Now you will find this design on the Hyundai Kona, and even BMW is copying it on their upcoming X7

[@TheHadrian54]

​@@PoloDaBear True their latest/upcoming generation is pretty much a mildly quirkier version of Peugeot but the last one was still quite unique. The whole Cactus thing was really cool and I'm kinda sad it didn't catch on...

[@automation7295]

@@arthemis1039 Why do people complain when manufacturers "copy" each other when you people don't mind copying other people?

[@dncviorel]

They used to be this way, not anymore, Citroen lost its soul, now they're all in for the $$$$$$

[@TheGSxChannel]

I never clicked in a Doug video so quickly. This car is certainly weird, but it's so weird that is cool! I live in Portugal and even here is a rare even seeing one. But when I do, oh boy it's a treat. My father has a C5 from the same era and the pneumatic suspension makes it the most floating in a clowd veichle I ever been

[@kevmagill5163]

I miss Portugal...beautiful country with beautiful people...having this car and living in Portugal would be a fantasy life.

[@LucianoMMatias]

Também não perdi tempo e assim que pude vi o vídeo! É sem dúvida o último dos grandes Citroen. Isto é sobretudo um carro para quem não quer a monotonia dos carros alemães.

[@Nabeel1717]

I still have my C5 and it drives smooth as butter

[@kofib3]

I loved the curved rear window of the C6 but I'm sure it would of been very expensive to replace..

[@WeMuckAround]

The ‘don’t power wash’ sticker - is not to stop people washing the engine, it’s to highlight the fuse box which you definitely should not shoot water into.

[@gupadre8255]

Why not

[@WeMuckAround]

@@gupadre8255 have a think mate

[@АртёмСмык-л7я]

This car is a masterpiece, truly unique piece of engineering

[@open-minded-oldie]

Yes, i agree. But why did this man say it was "Weird" about 500 times? Would you want his company on a long road trip?

[@yesterdayschunda1760]

Looks like a terrible car to me.

[@frazzleface753]

lol, not really. It's just pretty standard PSA fare piled high with extras to justify the price. It does have some quirky Citroenesque features but it's all quite pastiche at this point. Sort of what PSA thinks a Citroen should be rather than real organic Citroen.

[@karstenmesenholer3063]

@@yesterdayschunda1760 it is haha

[@martsteegh4122]

@@karstenmesenholer3063 Are you speaking out of experience? I've had a Peugeot 607 V6 (which is as far as I know exactly the same enigen was that used in the pertrol verion of the C6) which had some of the "quirks" of this C6 and it was a great car for the money (much cheaper than a german car with the same kind of engine and luxury options).

[@jesusb9562]

Despite how weird the styling is, the interior actually looks quite nice and the technology is impressive even for today's standards.

[@CodewortSchinken]

The interior is relatively thamed down. I was a bit disappointed that it doesn't have the quirky fixed hub steering wheel of other contemporary Citroen models.

[@geoffoakland]

i think the storage compartements in the doors are really cool. Also, the rear tail lights are actually somewhat like the Audi A6 from the early 2000s, a bit weird but..

[@milosstepanovic336]

Well considering that it came with HUD as standard on all C6 models at the time of it's production is a quirk in of itself... Also the fact that ac was always on, where you can turn it off if needed, unlike the other cars where you actually have to turn it on, what is amazing about citroen is that every single detail, was designed toward creature comfort... Be it a C6, C5 or even smaller models...

[@andyt8216]

At least to European eyes, this car is sleek, stylish and for 2005 futuristic. Yes, most people were not willing to spend big money for a Citroen and that rear may now have dated, but what a handsome beast indeed. A friend's dad here in the UK had its predecessor the XM. Your scoring was unnecessarily harsh IMO.

[@mistreku]

he's american, he doesn't get this sort of cars.

[@cawashka]

as a european, I never really liked the design of citröens lol

[@mistreku]

@@cawashka yea, you're allowed to be wrong. although your username makes me doubt the "European" part. and the "a European" sounds more American than European.

[@TheSunkissedmein2000]

@@mistreku I'm European and that car is distasteful in design but to each their own.

[@russkisteel]

given that c6 styling is pretty much spot on from 1999 lignage concept car, it would have been pretty stylish at launch and still is in my view. It was severely let down by lack of equipment that was already available to its price level competitors at its launch in 2005. i've owned one and it needs to be seen in person to be appreciated. i was 100% satisfied with the styling, but not the rest of the car. I had an XM, which I also enjoyed.

[@avaraz6941]

I don't understand how this car is "weird", it has place for things in the doors, behind a nice little wood circle, thats better than any normal car, even by nowadays standards

[@Sqwr]

People like to say Citroen are weird cars. When in fact they're among the best. When they were bought by Peugeot, the brand lost its reputation due to major costs cutting. For example, they always had top notch suspensions and I can take a speed bump 50kmh not feeling it in my Xantia or my C15.

[@brahim119]

*@Avaraz.* Forgive him he is an American.

[@timoonn]

he's used to armerican cars: big, bulky, no refinement, no style.

[@zollotech]

Would love to have a Doug museum for educational purposes 😀

[@crystallautner907]

Same

[@essentialtech388]

Happy to see you watch Doug!!

[@bonzobonanza]

When his Mercedes G-Wagon cabriolet goes on display, I would definitely pay a visit

[@VloneUchiha]

Zollotech!!!

[@brianlee7738]

@@bonzobonanza I agree, or his E63 AMG wagon that he recently sold.

[@nachogti2918]

I love when Doug reviews "normal" European cars. For him being American everything is weird lol

[@automation7295]

This also show that Americans are missing out a lot of cars.

[@MultiWalrus1]

This isn't a normal European car. A normal European car would be a Mercedes E-class or something similar. This is weird wherever you come from (unless you are French).

[@nachogti2918]

@@MultiWalrus1 that's why I typed "normal" lol

[@MultiWalrus1]

@@nachogti2918 gotcha 🤓👍

[@milosstepanovic336]

@@MultiWalrus1 as a European, not coming from france, I personally don't see this car as weird, I see it as a normal luxury sedan... A little bit eccentric like most French cars, but still not strange, odd, nor weird... This is what I expect from the French auto maker, which is why to me, it's not weirder than competitive E class or A6 or BMW 5 series of the era... And also due to the size and other features, this one was marketed as a competitor to the F segment of cars (S class, A8 and 7 series), and like I said that comes from an European who's not French...

[@HeadPack]

The last Citroen. Well put. Marks the end of an era in which cars still had character, and unapologetically so.

[@NavGTI]

Citroën has had a bit of a non inspiring phase after the C6 but if you look closely, they still had a fair share of quirky cars. I think most of all the Cactus, which was just hilariously Citroën-y. Even the new AMI One is a type of car not many brands can get away with in terms of daring decisions. And most of all, here in the Netherlands at least they are very affordable for what they are. People bought loads of Cactuses.

[@jayartz8562]

C5 is less quirky but still has the same suspension.

[@DominikoPL]

If by "character" you mean that every single person that enters the car inevitably asks "what the fuck is this?" then perhaps it's a good thing

[@ballisticmissl7919]

@@NavGTI the c4 Picasso and the citroen ds5 were also truly citroen too

[@r.thomassen6285]

I had a 1991 Citroën XM. It had a fun feature. You could diagnose the car using the radio. It worked like this: You had to tune the radio to a channel called Radio XM. And then start to drive, use the brakes, turn this way and that way and do all sorts of things. And the radio would tell you if things were working or not. It was like listening to a modem, sort of. And when you for example accellerated the sound would change. I think that the radio diagnose was connected to some magnetic valves or what it is in the hydropneumatic system which controlled the steering, gearbox, brakes and suspension. And you could listen to the radio to hear if those thing gave the right sound or not indicating if it worked as it should or had errors. Anyway it was very fascinating and very quirky. Probably very useful and very innovative in those times before computer diagnosis was invented. Citroëns are by the way wonderful cars! I now own my third Citroën.

[@The_Noctu]

I cannot wait for the day when Doug reviews a Renault Avantime

[@wardtmar]

I love that car: grand air!

[@Jiyeonieeee]

I want him to review a Toyota Alphard

[@oguzt.7868]

8,557 were built from 2001 to 2003, a figure that makes it one of the worst-selling cars of all time. LoL

[@bonzobonanza]

Doug said that the Lane Motor Museum had an Avantime. Unfortunately, it broke down when he arrived at the museum 😔

[@tomasdekkers8038]

No, a Fiat Multipla

[@egold2071]

Ah, my folks went to Paris and asked what souvenirs I'd like. Without hesitation- Get me a Citroën brochure! It's so cool to see the quirky stuff in the parallel universe of the European market.

[@jkbm]

I'm from Europe (half French/half German) and I always love to see people from the USA react to "our" cars and what we consider normal!

[@budus2]

I cannot agree with Doug about the suspension system. Actually, it's extremely simple and reliable, if you think about it and learn how it's designed. It's a technological marvel.

[@zwerker]

Servoelectric steering - OK Electronic fuel injection - OK Variable valve timing - so? Automatic transmission - whatever Cruise control, satnav, automatic steering... - Zzzzzzzzz Suspension *NOT* 19th century buggy coil springs - OMG NOOOO!!! HOW ODD!!! IT'LL NEVER WORK!!!

[@timlolxP]

My father had a c5 and c6 over a long time. the c6 is in garage and waits to get an Oldtimer. Many things broke on these cars but the suspensions made no problems whatsoever. Combined I would say 450.000 km on both cars.

[@Av-ks8uc]

@@zwerker americans will never be able to understand how beautiful French cars were, are, and will be.

[@vince207]

he may also have mentionned mercedes copied the system for their S class in the 80s and that for some time Rolls Royce were using Citroen patent on their cars

[@nicolasbocchino3761]

@@vince207 considering the technology is from the 1940s to 1950s is amazing

[@TayebMC]

Accelleration low 8 sec 0-60, Doug gives it a 1 !!!, This car is 100% better than anything made in the US in its time. The cabin is one of the nicest places to be this side of an S-class while traveling across Europe. Doug just didn't get it.

[@arzvaelkerbourch380]

He would give the same score to a Trabant

[@juanmartincorrea9652]

For Doug everything innovative is 'weird'. I'm sure that if there was a Doug back in the 1900's he would've called having an engine instead of horses 'weird'

[@latvija222]

But…in 1900’s having an engine WAS weird. Weird as unusual. Today having a hydrogen car ir weird just because it rare.

[@mikolajmichalak334]

that is not weird that's just Citroen only just like some movies on netflix and that isn't weird at all, just good and free capitalism

[@klapsigaarenbasgitaar1931]

Doug is one of these people who, when his local supermarket changes the layout of the store, complains to the manager that all the new locations of departments are 'weird'.😂

[@rosen9425]

yes, because having an engine in the 1900s was literally all sorts of weird xD

[@tarekben5524]

Couldn't agree more. I'm sorry to say that he's also annoying. He couldn't stop repeating "French are weird...", and all the usual stereotypes. Awful.

[@TheDomeHepot010]

THISSSSS….was the moment I’ve been waiting for

[@Firebolt1729]

When will KZbin ban these bots

[@ykd0011]

@@Firebolt1729 when we will report them enough

[@Firebolt1729]

@@ykd0011 I have reported accounts like these multiple times, and I am sure others have well, but nothing happens😐

[@MarkSmith-io3qd]

I have the C6’s predecessor, the XM. The early XM’s were properly weird, which Citroën eventually toned down. I also own a Citroën BX 16 Valve Gti.

[@mudskipper0075]

Love the XM still stands out today ,preferred the MK1 opposed to the facelift model funny enough….👍

[@red00eye]

How did that escape the great GTI transplant holocaust of the late 90's?

[@MarkSmith-io3qd]

@@red00eye Only one previous owner to me buying it in 2010. He’d bought it new in 1989 and treasured it. His wife referred to it as ‘his beloved Citroën’. It was put up for sale because he’d become too ill to drive it unfortunately.

[@KarlHamilton]

Loved the XM. Shame we never got DIRAVI in the UK.

[@jackwarren3080]

My dad had a 1989 1.7 naturally aspirated diesel BX sold with the Gti trim because Citroen had ran out of those performance engines so just sold it new with a Diesel engine. It had all round disc brakes. Alloys and a largeish rear wing. Loved it. Hydraulics failed in the end.

[@KubanKevin]

Had one as a rental in the mid 2000s in Spain. Excellent car with outstanding fuel economy.

[@gregorytimmons4777]

Citroen is one of the most innovative brands across the automotive landscape. I wish the DS had remained in production to the present day. Same goes for the SM. One of the most fantastic GT cars ever produced.

[@superbcdva]

They make new ds's tho

[@Nightwolf2595]

@@superbcdva They became standalone in 2015, they just aren't making them under citroen.

[@superbcdva]

@@Nightwolf2595 yes i know

[@masterphoenixpraha]

I bought it, because I loved the styling... Unless you drive with for a while, you won't understand the car... BTW - you could have speed and navigation on the head-up display... You could turn on sporty suspension for better handling...It was much more stable, just the huge weight was kind of issue in tight curves. The back spoiler was needed for high speeds stability... Tested the maximum on German highways - 242 km/h... Very impressive and still stable (with sporty suspension turned on)... Still pretty quiet, only wind noise from the frameless doors. Loved its 10 GB internal hard drive to load all my music there... BTW it was the first car in Europe to get homologation for daytime running lights (next to the front blinkers)... And for the tail lights - if you'd seen them in the dark, you'd know how efficient they were... Of course judging it in studio lights of museum doesn't show much... I know it is your style of videos, but maybe taking the car more seriously would show your fellow Americans that luxury car doesn't have to be boring comparing to its peers of that time, yet it can be functional and really make fun to drive... And yes, many cars from those days had pleeenty of buttons for all their features, because digital was not yet the thing...

[@steveboatronics]

‘Wrong’ about the air vents’ closure, Doug; the edgewheels that you referred to are to control the ‘Air Curtain’ airflow - a vent that deflects HVAC air off the windscreen via outlets atop the infotainment screen “hump”. The face level vents are shut off by rolling the vertical flow slats all the way downwards… 🤗

[@gebezeira]

And that audio control is very common on Peugeot/Citroën cars, same with that seatbelt warning chime . Not that quirky... LOL

[@steveboatronics]

@@gebezeira Absolutely correct.

[@uyhu24]

@@gebezeira audio control is very common for french cars in general, Renault's had it for years. For a person like Doug i expected him to say "common for french cars but weird so see in us" or something it felt like he had seen such thing for the first time

[@dapprman]

On mine I kept those vents closed as the air curtain worked so well and you never felt the air flow. Never been in another car that did it even close to this well.

[@franciscouderq1100]

That ‘s what I thought

[@glorf1234]

I had one for two years. Flawed but also perfect at the same time. Hates twisty roads but loves the open road. Great seats, especially the back seats. Hydractive suspension is even more comfy than modern air suspension. Most comfortable car I ever drove in, love this car.

[@doctorweile]

I don't recall having seen anybody gesturing so extensively when they talk. The whole car rocks from side to side.

[@tyraela115]

Yeah thats because he didn`t even bother to look up the sport button at the gearbox and then press it. :)

[@InternetNewZealand]

Scotty Kilmer: "Hold my beer"

[@roberthindle5146]

Italians....

[@MrCarGuy]

Citroën's hydropneumatic suspension was the one great differentiator for the brand. Too bad they don't care anymore.

[@Jeremy-ff7gv]

If u own a citroen u wouldnt say this...i owned a vw polo,a mercedes e200 and a bmw 625i but now i got a c3 as i live in a very busy city a hatchback is easier...it beats all the cars i owned previously,it just oozes class from the toc tic sound of ur blinkers to the build quality and the AMAZING suspension...yes citroen nolonger makes hydro pneumatic suspensions but they got a type of shock that goes above ur regular shocks which just smooths out any and all bumps in the road and trust me,belgium has ALOT of potholes lol

[@MartijnterHaar]

The rise of air suspension made it obsolete. Remember that the hydro pneumatic system dates to the 1950s. Citroën did make a new system based on the experience with hydro pneumatic suspension; it's called 'progressive hydraulic cushions': kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYiydWCBnMqsprc

[@aaaabababa]

@@MartijnterHaar even air suspenion doesn't come close to the hydropneumatic suspenion...

[@ecavity]

@@MartijnterHaar I'm not sure wether the rise of air suspension made it obsolete. Hydropneumatic still may be better, or have certain advantages. But it is more expensive to make. Less complex alternatives may be 'good enough' or do the job. I suspect the technology can line up in a collection of technologies that survive for a while, then the market, manufacturers, and too low consumerdemand, decide it isn't a economically viable option anymore. The new system provided by Citroen is.... at least far cheaper too make, but certainly lacks certain properties that the hydropneumatic system has. Its good for marketing though. Citroen can say, we are doing hydraulics again, yay!

[@gracz24PL]

Even Rolls Royce were using Citroens suspension because it was so great. Today's citorens doesn't have that suspension, for this they re not worth buying.

[@VinayKapoor]

This is definitely charming

[@leonardotapiamarrero1783]

As a European, I can say that this car is France at its finest

[@Firebolt1729]

Looks ugly imo

[@ericschwartz100]

@@leonardotapiamarrero1783 yep yep, I definitely have to agree with you 100%. France At it's finest as far as European cars are concerned.

[@wojciechwilimowski985]

THIS... is definitely charming

[@maya00795]

I am from India 🙏🙏@ Vinay kapoor

[@rainbowwarrior2635]

What he leaves out is the 65mpg with the diesel, and the fact that they have a 2liter 4 cylinder diesel with 201hp and 380ft/lbs of torque. I like luxury cars, I really appreciate a smooth riding, easy going car with a diesel motor that is quite, effortless and gives great fuel economy. Plus it's front wheel drive which makes good in the snow and gives it a lot of interior room. Honestly these french cars are to advanced and sophisticated for americans to understand

[@hanefar11]

Again with the Citroen inaccuracies. The wobbling in the rear is due to incorrectly adjusted height on the front. Causing the pressure to be uneven across all four corners. If the C6 is not driven, or has not been calibrated in years that will happen by itself. The ''mushiness'' is really just a neglect thing, a proper C6 feels like it's floating, with no real body roll. it's planted and almost feels like it's hovering. It's hard to make videos on Citroens, because the only way to know about these weird things is being around them for years. The CX video Doug made really got alot of things wrong, and forgot A LOT of the really cool quirks and features.

[@matthewhaddon599]

Doesn’t he waffle on !!

[@SDH-g8g]

@@matthewhaddon599 Waffle is fine....if it's correct.

[@aymaneoubad5057]

Agreed !

[@Karjis]

The body roll should be there unless the sport mode valve is stuck. As right and left side is the same exact circuit when not in sport mode it will have even pressures and no other possibilities. But the question is does this one have the road scanning suspension with the valves on top of each sphere or it might be ”just” regular 3+ as it only has the 2.9 petrol V6 and not the top end HDI. With regular 3+ there is not much hardware to have any calibrations that would actively effect ride except just some suspension parts being slighly stuck.

[@biglightball]

@@Karjis Every regular Hydractiv III+ has suspension computer with firmware and possibility to adjust it's behavior by reprogramming. One of my dailies is C5 with Hydractiv III+.

[@jayvette8936]

If you've ever owned a hatchback or a station wagon, the way the center rear seat seatbelt works isn't very unusual. Although I will say that's the first time I've seen it work that way on a sedan.

[@just_justin_11]

My mom's buick enclave has this and I was really confused when he said that

[@SupraStar29]

Definitely very common. My family had a Corolla Verso, same exact design.

[@ballisticmissl7919]

@@SupraStar29 yeah my family has a verso. Same thing so can't be too unusual

[@debrzo1]

It is the empress of the road, I own it for 12 years, covered big distances without backbone ache and with no dizziness after driving for 6 hours in a row. Just overhauled it and I would not exchange it for my wife's newest S90. It is still a head turner. Wow wow 👌

[@Rico-oz4ct]

are you french?

[@debrzo1]

@@Rico-oz4ct no, I am not

[@TehAlekzi]

I sometimes forget that NA doesn't get the french cars. It was so weird seeing Doug wonder the third stalk for radio control, when pretty much every PSA group car had the same stalks. (My most basic trim level '05 307 has the exact same stalks)

[@johanfalk2875]

Mexico has French cars. French automakers began to sell in the US/CA in the 70’s and 80’s but that was the worst possible time to try their luck here. They got walloped by Japanese brands and their cheaper, more reliable alternatives. It’s too bad. The french just got the timing wrong.

[@ZoulousProductions]

@Paol Vrobel i hate because you can't actualy see the buttons

[@serdarservet]

@Paol Vrobel Totally! We have a '12 C3 Picasso and the radio controls at the back of the steering wheel (and also the cruise control at the left side) is the one of the things that I cannot give up on among other things such as center orange gauge cluster thingy. It really makes you focus on the road because of its placement, what a genius idea! C3 Picasso is even more quirkier than C6 inside, the Spacebox design was one of the best things that Citroen made in 2000s. Such a small car, yet, surprising amount of room in the interior.

[@MichaelBosley]

My ‘94 Renault Clio had this also. When most small cars didn’t have any remote controls.

[@RustyPetterson]

@@MichaelBosley Yep, I had it on my 2003 Clio as well, it was brilliant! Such an intuitive place to have the volume control, every car should have it there.

[@v1ncenz0cennam0]

Since we’re talking about weird 2000s sedans, why don’t you look for a Lancia Thesis? I think it'll be even more difficult finding one in the US

[@MetalTrabant]

Oh yes, I love that sculpture on wheels! Although I don't think it's very quirky other than the styling... but I haven't been in one so far.

[@NenadTrajkovic]

Alfa Romeo 166 too

[@MetalTrabant]

@@NenadTrajkovic That's nice, but a pretty normal car, as far as I know.

[@baselhs]

Lancia Thema 8.32 with a Ferrari V8

[@scuffediceposeidon9178]

Pinzgauer 4x4 suisse offroader which looks like a scuffed Unimog

[@dandanduro4314]

Hi Doug 🖐. Citroën C6 is a very nice car. I live in France and the car is, or was, very popular with Taxi. It is constantly used as an elegant Uber VIP passenger limousine for example. Great video, Merci 😅

[@jareknowak8712]

There are no vechicle age limitations in Uber?

[@stephans1990]

A 15 year old high middle class car as an Uber Black limousine is kind of a rip off though. I would complain if someone shows up in that and I'm paying more than I would pay for a standard taxi.

[@arthemis1039]

@@stephans1990 I don't know, the ride quality and silence really counts. If you are going around Paris, I'd rather go around in an older C6 than a Megane

[@dandanduro4314]

@@stephans1990 Hi 🖐Now that's the asshole driving SaintGobain's deputy president. The French love their car classics. It is similar with the presidents of the Fr republic, Renault Vel Satis is driving there

[@stephans1990]

@@arthemis1039 Yeah, if you ordered a taxi. Almost all taxi's I have saved in my phone are older S-Classes for that reason. However, when we are talking about luxury transportation, I would say a young (

[@seinsmeld13]

I think it's a great, great looking car. Too bad they don't sell these in Canada anymore. Great review Doug. Keep up your great work.

[@CptBluto]

You can tell that Doug wants this car to be weird and quirky so bad...but actually it's not. It's a pretty normal European sedan with some good and innovative ideas for its time.

[@omarhajbi5207]

I understand his reaction since Americans don't encounter this, but I'm surprised at how weird he found the extra column stock for the audio controls XD It's something I expect from every European car I get into

[@maquesim4296]

Its very similar to the Jaguar XF honestly. Except the Jag is hideous and this thing is actually kind of handsome.

[@debrzo1]

It is not an ordinary car, it is one of its kind, the only one and undisputable empress of the road. I have covered more than 170k miles over last 12 years and I am still in love...

[@TedMechanic]

@@omarhajbi5207 Yeah, the middle seatbelt for the rear seats as well. They are exactly the same in my BMW E90, nothing weird there.

[@mar-cin]

Actually all models of Citroen for example C2, C3 (2002-2009), C6 from that time period had this radio shifter 4:31, nothing special. It might seems wierd but you would like it to operate that. 9:48 The "Dark" button was there in other models too. When you are taveling longer distances at night it's useful I must say - standard button for Citroen C2, C3, C6 on console also. 11:50 increasing Safty Belt alert - car plz let me go just 100 meters more! C6 would had great chances of sucess if not that overdesigned front including headlines and pricing. 19:30 Suspension - I love to use it, you are levitating over the ground but it's good I'm not the guy who repairs it.

[@andrejflajs2493]

C6 is a special car. 2 questions: Does Doug ever get fed up with saying quirky so many times? 😂 With 200-240 HP these cars could go up to 230 km/h - why wouldn't you want an active spoiler? Helps with stability and air drag 😉

[@3f241]

You can find a C6 with 3.0l v6 hdi 240cv (it's Citroën-Ford engine) it's the same engine that à Jaguar xf (2013). I'm french, i Work in Peugeot, and i can by a c6 v6 240hp for 6000€ with 76 000km...

[@theMrlaurentus]

Because the citroen have an active hydraulic suspension which allows the height of the vehicle to be lowered at high speed

[@stevenbodo965]

Bur he finally learned that it's quirk, not quark!

[@SDH-g8g]

Because when people don't understand a different way of approaching something, or they don't understand it, they label it as 'quirky', when really they just mean 'different'. Citroens get labelled as 'quirky' all the time.

[@russkisteel]

@@3f241 that's around the same price for slightly more mileage. but the initial purchase cost isn't the issue as used citroen residual is terrible (C6 isn't quite collectible yet) - potential maintenance cost is.

[@nothinghere7391]

I would've honestly given this car a 7, or 8 in styling. I absolutely love how it looks

[@szybkilewyprostyf231]

C6 i beatyfull! Love it.

[@benjaminblabla]

Same here, beautiful design

[@russkisteel]

10 out of 10 for its class, mate. it needs to be seen in person to be really appreciated - inside and out.

[@nomebear]

I want one. It's one of the few cars that I find interesting

[@marcarpadboncz7324]

and he didn't even show rolling the windows down. They are frameless, and also the rear windows roll down completely, which is a rear feat.

[@photolover6944]

Doug, you are definitely wrong about your appreciation of the handling of this car. Citroens are renowned for being always glued to the road, and this is also true with the C6. You can take turns at very high speed and the C6 will negotiate them without any problem.

[@palaricsebastien4148]

The third stock on the steering wheel is pretty common in french cars of 2000-beginning of 2010. The seatbelt alarm too. And you should try letting the key in the neumann while openning the door while the car is off. In the high setup, your speed is limited. The grill is also found in all the citroen lineup of this era

[@ThePceee]

Renaults still have them

[@RolfSAMA]

These are still relatively semi-common in Europe, but definitely sureshot youngtimer material. Fun fact: rear window is bent & profiled in the way that airflow around the car pushes water down, making a rear wiper obsolete.

[@MrTruth111]

yes, but numbers sold and on the road is extremely low.

[@paname514]

Good condition and well optioned units already sell for a hefty price.

[@Dasblublo]

I live in Sweden and I have never seen it before

[@davidpaterson2309]

Citroen introduced that rear window feature on the Citroen CX - in 1974.

[@janzdenek7548]

You could have easily shown the rear spoiler deployed. With ignition off, press the wiper lever down and it will deploy itself into a "service" position.

[@javierzila3200]

Style 4 ???? Dude you are wrong!! I am an automotive designer and I saw the development of the C6 and its concept, it is incredible

[@oliverstemp9132]

The more you look at the C6, the better it gets

[@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785]

It's weird, but the lines are smooth & clean and it has a nice curve to it...the front end especially looks pretty classy, in my opinion...I like the grille & headlights styling.

[@neoanto9345]

I've dropped EVERYTHING and clicked on the notification INSTANTLY when i saw the c6

[@jordanseay216]

I absolutely love the C6! It’s such a cool quirky car!

[@Firebolt1729]

@T a t s u h i s h a©🌹 Shut up

[@nickk9987]

@@jannie6605 no u

[@syxepop]

@@Firebolt1729 - just KEEP DENOUNCING those SEX BOTS until Doug "begins to get them KICKED OUTTA HERE"...

[@jordanseay216]

@@syxepop yes!

[@kevincarlson668]

Cracks me up that in a country that dreamt up Plymouth Prowlers,AMC Pacers,and 50's land whales(that indeed resembles finfish)this gets called "weird looking from the outside".Many French cars looked gorgeous(Citroen DS,SM,CX) ,Panhards,looked gorgeous to me.And I thought the ultra reliable Peugeot 505 I was fortunate enough to own was very handsome,if more conventional.

[@nicholasartuso4698]

This is the Doug content we all know and love

[@Firebolt1729]

F*cking hell these bots are going crazy

[@Firebolt1729]

L

[@nfc153]

"Sports" and "Luxury" are not the same thing - BMWs are sport sedans whereas the C6 is a luxurious experience. It's a shame Doug couldn't get out on the highway, it was like watching someone review a wine without opening the bottle.

[@damilolaakanni]

"Sports Luxury" is an oxymoron, IMO. You can do one or the other perfectly, but not both.

[@pinkraven4402]

@@damilolaakanni Yeah but you can have a compromise

[@grayrabbit2211]

It's like Mercedes' marketing team pushing "Sport" E-Classes... yay, a Sport taxi!

[@blue-tb2fd]

@@damilolaakanni You can do both very well in the form of a GT car (think AMG GT, 911, etc.)

[@extaza555]

Did you ever drive a 911? Trust me, the ride ain’t comfy at all.

[@2W3X4YZ5]

I remember learning when I was a kid: People who only bought (pre PSA) Citroens did not find them weird at all, and expected new strangenesses each time they upgraded. Hubnut in the UK can extrapolate-he _gets_ Citroen. Thanks for the video. Cheers.

[@2W3X4YZ5]

@@jannie6605 Callate su boca

[@gagd7351]

I'm quite sad to see what citroen has become now, as a frenchman. PSA turned it into a cheap entry level brand... it use to be a flagship of innovation with the xantia activa, this c6, or even long ago v shaped gears in gearboxes (the logo makes reference to that)... It was my only national brand i enjoyed i think.

[@wordsmith52]

@@gagd7351 but you have DS now n'est pas?

[@gagd7351]

@@wordsmith52 it's not the equivalent of what was citroen. first off, they separated ds from citroen. Then, ds's get peugeot engines and 'boxes, and then it's just luxury snobby crap imo. Citroen was a different philosophy, it was innovative, a typical "engineer car" with full of quirks and brand new things in the industry.

[@SteamboatWilley]

I was a big fan of the old Citroën XM, which was very futuristic for its time, and the C6 is a worthy successor.

[@DanielW124]

5:10 This has to be the coolest cupholder ever!

[@mikewestwood567]

I’m pretty sure they are copied from Saab. Along with night panel mode.

[@santiagosuarez8142]

HOLY SHIT YES!!!!!! I was praying for years for you to get this!!! the best car I’ve ever seen!

[@20luzer52]

"Weird", "Bizarre" - true American island thinking. Most of the things you say are "weird" about Citroens I would say are innovative and unique. This is the type of guy that I would expect to travel to other countries and say it's weird how those people don't speak English.

[@20luzer52]

@@hunterrrdrives I sure as hell don't call them weird 50+ times. You should also look his videos up, he's seen and driven Citroens before. He knows cars, and Renaults and Peugeots are not like Citroens but he decides to label "French cars" in totality as some sort of freaks. Man up, the guy acted like a know it all condescending jerk.

[@dansanger5340]

@@20luzer52 His schtick is to find weird and quirky features on every car he reviews. He does that regardless of where they come from, including with American cars.

[@automation7295]

@@20luzer52 Doug find them weird because of unusual styling compared to most cars you typically he see in North America, full of SUVs and boring Toyota Camry's

[@automation7295]

@@20luzer52 *"the guy acted like a know it all condescending jerk"* I bet you say the same about everyone, even in real life. Also how would you feel if your dad calls you a "a know it all condescending jerk"? I bet some people called you a jerk when you were a child. You probably also go out in public the call everyone "jerk" for no reason.

[@20luzer52]

@@automation7295 Uh, you guess wrong but I'm sure your defense of Doug is appreciated by him. It's quite presumptuous of you to think you know my background but if that's your schtick, knock yourself out. The point being, if you only know your own little pond, then don't say other things outside it are "weird" time and time and time again.

[@kardondo]

Being a native of Morocco 🇲🇦 whenever you review a Citroen, it’s an instant nostalgia trip to late 80’s early 90’s (your CX25 review). In 2006 this car’s replacement parts were typically pretty expensive and hard to find.

[@KevBoy3D]

That deep purple paint with the light beige interior is pretty understated and nice.

[@melchorvincentagot1002]

Like how the exterior would be jelly and the interior peanut butter.

[@Yyyiiiweennnvvvscccst]

I think Doug would be crazy over Renault Avantime

[@bonzobonanza]

I heard the Lane Motor Museum has an Avantime, but it broke down when Doug arrived at the museum

[@techgeekout]

I want one of these badly, I honestly think they're one of the coolest cars "of the modern era"

[@carstenweiland7896]

Yes they probably are, but maintaining them is expensive even if they can be pretty reliable.

[@gestortdp3615]

The Citroen hydromatic system also assists the steering and brakes. In addition, the Citroen C6 has the latest version of this system that does not need to be replaced since it has multiple membranes in the spheres. It is also used to replace the wheels when you suffer a puncture since you only have to raise the suspension to the maximum, place the support and then lower it, simple as no other. It is also an addition to safety since if you are on the road and you puncture a tire, the car tends to stay level, preventing you from losing control of it. a failure in sales but a great car, the model you showed with the beige interior is one of the 1500 that were made with that color. Less than 25,000 were made in total from 2006 to 2012.

[@valentinexristov8915]

The Hydropneumatic does assist but on the older models! On the C5 (from 2000) the steering and the brakes are completely separated from the suspension. EU Regulations.

[@ghp0518]

Funny to say that the ride feels like a Mercedes S class, because Citroen sold their hyro-pneumatic technology patents to Mercedes which made it into the S-class

[@Bluepeter62]

... and not to forget Rolls-Royce also using the Citroën hyro-pneumatic technology.

[@KDkorMEvol2]

Any other citroen cars that had this technology?

[@boazspronk3819]

@@KDkorMEvol2 the absolutely beautiful Citroën DS

[@Hattonbank]

@@KDkorMEvol2 C5, both models, CX, GS, XM, Xantia. Check them out, all wonderful!

[@ghp0518]

@@KDkorMEvol2 Citroen Xantia Activa is a special implementation of this technology since it still holds the record for highest speed at which a car can complete the moose test (85 km/h) since 1995 which is amazing

[@sasuturunen6366]

A lot of "weird" stuff were actually standard in PSA cars those years. The dash controls for example look a lot like my old Peugeot 308 I used to have and HUD is similar to Citroen Xsara and C4 as I recall it. So I don't see this car very weird in European standards. It's a lot more weird to see an F-150 cruising in my neighborhood for example.

[@acoffeewithsatan]

My mom's 307 also has that same radio control. In fact, the cupholders seem weirder to me than anything else, I don't even think those are standard in most cars I've seem, at most just molded plastic in the middle console.

[@ahmadytanjung]

Another wierd feature in 9:22 , what he said is incredbly funny

[@Atombender]

Really the only weird things about this car are the storage pockets that open downwards.

[@jt6404]

But he isn't European. I assume Europeans would find plenty of cars that were never sold there odd.

[@PKMNFan4664]

"Weird" is going to be subjective based on what country you're originally from. Japanese cars may be popular here in the United States for example, but I've seen pictures of what it actually looks like in Japan, and the JDM cars there are often WAY different from what we get here. Different markets have different tastes-and I think cars, when driven, etc., need to be seen in that light.

[@vicmanvalfre96]

My first car was a Citroen DS3 and I have to say that the Sound and Cruise control stalks were one of the best ergonomic designs I have ever come across, Every button is distinct, easy to memorize, operate and super comfortable to use. I was very put off by them at first, but I fell in love with them after a week of use.

[@flori5548]

Cheers from a former 207 driver … :D Same, same…

[@stephencread]

If I may add something about the variable hight suspension that , at least in the 2 Citroen reviews I have watched so far, is the advantage of NOT needing to be jacked up to change a wheel. That involves the following sequence: Loosen the nuts, raise the car to full height. insert the jack or block, remove and exchange the wheel, start to tighten the wheel nuts, remove jack or block, lower the car, tighten nuts fully. Job Done. Advantage is no need to crouch or lay down to find and locate the jack - certainly an advantage in rain or snow.

[@michaelhendricks9462]

Hey, Doug, regarding the "no pressure washing" sign: In Europe with the higher population density and smaller, closer together and very old houses, it's not common to have outdoor faucets and big driveways, room to reasonably wash a car. For the same reasons, they don't tend to have big gas stations with drive-through car washes. So pretty much everyone who cares to wash their car does it in self-service car washes with pressure washing systems, one thing we commonly have that they DO have. The rest is obvious enough. "Hey, while I'm here, paid for the time, and the washer is still running anyway, I may as well hit that grimy engine right quick." Not something most Americans would think of, but happens all the time in France and Germany.

[@bn23dave]

What?! I live in germany, and of course most of our houses have driveways with outdoor faucets… Except in multi apartment buildings in crowded city centers of course, but I honestly doubt that a New York apartment building would have a driveway either… And in the cities (and even villages) almost EVERY gas station has a drive through car wash. There are even big drive through car washes that operate independently from gas stations in almost every city district. Yeah, there are also self service stations, but you mostly go there because it‘s cheap or when your car is only slightly dirty and just needs a rinse. Oh, by the way: Almost no one here is wearing lederhosn, either…. Especially in northern germany. There are also other drinkable beverages besides beer. 😉 What is a common thing here is that many people, when selling their cars, wash the engine bay to make it look clean and shiny. And some idiots do that with a pressure washer, which is not recommendable… Especially with modern cars with their complex electrical systems, that don’t like it at all when you pressure wash water into them. And THAT’s the reason for that warning sticker. 🤓

[@christopherdesbaux5950]

@@bn23dave I've been to Germany, and the craziest thing to me is that they serve beer at the gas stations on the Autobahn!

[@fezlergabor]

@@christopherdesbaux5950 why wouldn't they serve beer? It's not like only the driver can go into the gas station and have a drink.

[@christopherdesbaux5950]

@@fezlergabor it would be unthinkable in New Zealand. I love it, but it was surprising

[@BorutB]

This stickers, mean, just do not power wash this part, because under this plastic are electric components (fuses, comp....)...it is also some mistaker about hydravlic uspension, it could drive only in one position (above 20 mph)

[@jegor011]

Regarding the music controlling stalk, as someone who drove Citroen Xsara for ten years, this thing was a lifesaver and I think that it was a superior solution to controls on the steering wheel. It was a PSA wide thing at that time.

[@felipesancho]

My Peugeot has that very same audio stalk and another for the cruise control at the other side. I Believe it is a great solution since it is hidden behind the steering wheel, so you can't look what button makes what. You have to feel the buttons and learn what they do without ever taking your sight out of the road.

[@toucego]

@@felipesancho True! I drive Peugeots and Renaults and I love those controls there…it’s so f***ing intuitive!!!

[@jslonisch]

Yeah, my 2004 Clio has it and I love it.

[@oliviersikora3887]

I have one, absolutely love it. Mine has electrically operated rear seats and a button in the rear armrest that pushes forward the front passenger seat for more space. Doug also forgot to mention a hidden storage under the middle seat👍😊

[@dncviorel]

I always wanted to know if C6 was well built. My C4 from 2006 had issues after 3-4 years, the belt spring kinda broke, the door handle broke, the automatic pilot broke, my break sensor broke, the ventilation system is somewhat broke at the moment, overall cheap to repair, but things did go wrong every now and then. How was/is the C6?

[@djplonghead5403]

I think my family went to the lane motor museum. The massive amphibious vehicle, the only in the background of your filming, a car with a bubble interior, and the narrowest car- could even fit through a doorway.

[@pwatom22]

Hydractive suspension was fantastic. From DS, GS, CX to c5 and c6.. all brilliant and super comfortable mile eaters.

[@jean_sebastien]

Xantia too