The Civ 6 Hero Tier List

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@jb_a_sentient_bot5149
@jb_a_sentient_bot5149 4 жыл бұрын
hercules is best known for building 3 of the most prominent spaceports in greece
@burstcity3832
@burstcity3832 4 жыл бұрын
@@alex2005z nice!
@lekanske3816
@lekanske3816 4 жыл бұрын
Tbh I don't think Hercules should be able to instant complete spaceports. Like that's too much production for two charges
@Abazzaar
@Abazzaar 4 жыл бұрын
​@@alex2005z Remember that you can resurrect heroes, you just need to spend some faith for next 3 districts. Potentially you can resurrect him each era, so he could build as many as 24 districts for entire game.
@jb_a_sentient_bot5149
@jb_a_sentient_bot5149 4 жыл бұрын
@@lekanske3816 i think it should be 0 charges so he can build all the districts
@jdog7797
@jdog7797 4 жыл бұрын
I think he should be able to insta kill anything
@brianhammond4494
@brianhammond4494 4 жыл бұрын
Hercules's Rage ability not only destroys districts and their buildings, but also destroys Wonders and puts those Wonders back into the able to build chart.
@jessie4351
@jessie4351 4 жыл бұрын
@@alex2005z Oxford too, there are so many possibilities
@marcelomaldonado2011
@marcelomaldonado2011 4 жыл бұрын
Are you serious? that's completely broken. I actually don't think that should be a thing in my opinion. He would still be S tier even without being able to destroy wonders.
@lekanske3816
@lekanske3816 4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, he would be even better
@ed1659
@ed1659 4 жыл бұрын
Is it intentional? Not a single word about wonders in his description. But i think it makes him THE best hero for sure
@joofbing
@joofbing 4 жыл бұрын
Wow this is good info.
@parkerdoole7029
@parkerdoole7029 4 жыл бұрын
Beowolf can delete defending units inside of cities, making him incredible for dealing with crossbows or catapults
@gunzakimbo
@gunzakimbo 4 жыл бұрын
And if you have a bunch of melee units that are just weak enough to get owned by the city he can make it so you can pretty much take the city in one turn!
@joshcoup6440
@joshcoup6440 4 жыл бұрын
Also good at killing other heroes
@Melchior11
@Melchior11 4 жыл бұрын
This is definitely my favorite application
@tiagozortea
@tiagozortea 4 жыл бұрын
I was about to post this here, I really think Beowulf is one of the very best offense heroes, cities become so weak when they have nobody garrisoning them.
@joofbing
@joofbing 4 жыл бұрын
Especially range units usually def have lower combat strength than him 👍🏻
@williamrosa4005
@williamrosa4005 4 жыл бұрын
Maoi has a hidden benefit. You can move him around your borders and see where you CAN'T use his ability. There will be a strategic resource there 😉
@noahboone524
@noahboone524 4 жыл бұрын
That's like 90% of why I get him in the early game. See like three empty spots he can't use his ability on? Settle there immediately.
@marcelomaldonado2011
@marcelomaldonado2011 4 жыл бұрын
woah that's actually really cool never thought about that
@Jay_Johnson
@Jay_Johnson 4 жыл бұрын
Did this on culture Indonesia and was able to settle/district over coastal aluminium giving me more sea side resorts and the strategic resources without killing the appeal
@equilintogo5378
@equilintogo5378 4 жыл бұрын
Turns out to be leylines......
@ultru3525
@ultru3525 4 жыл бұрын
@@equilintogo5378 That'd suck, but in my experience, like 95% of leylines are within 3 tiles of someone's starting tile, or in the tundra or snow. Pretty rare to find them elsewhere.
@MattSuttonVA
@MattSuttonVA 4 жыл бұрын
"Hippolyta. Very flexible. Best for domination play." -- Potato, possibly talking about CIV6. Maybe.
@kingcrow6913
@kingcrow6913 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@Nitrile7
@Nitrile7 3 жыл бұрын
Huh...?
@wastelanddan7388
@wastelanddan7388 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@The_Voluptuary
@The_Voluptuary 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nitrile7 r/woosh
@jacksonwittwer8842
@jacksonwittwer8842 3 жыл бұрын
Took me a second
@ryansrnka1131
@ryansrnka1131 4 жыл бұрын
Anasi's biggest value is yeeting the ai's luxeries which forces them to either buy yours or their cities rebel
@ChiefmcNuggets
@ChiefmcNuggets 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah i came across that by trying it. It's a funny trick to do! Haha yeet yeet!
@jordydexter
@jordydexter 4 жыл бұрын
I found that they still keep the resource in the diplomacy screen though, even if they have no copies in their empire or from city states. At least it reduces the tile yields in their strong cities.
@snootycapybara3683
@snootycapybara3683 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's understated how impactful his ability to get rid of a luxury resource that's in a sweet district location is.
@shaolo6006
@shaolo6006 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, very satisfying to get an open borders treaty with an AI and then cruise around their empire deleting all their luxuries (even ones they've already improved) and without incurring any attack penalty!
@Wargasmo
@Wargasmo 4 жыл бұрын
It's pretty funny to delete the AI's resources; I think there should be a diplomatic penalty though, at least. Deleting the AI's strategic resources is hilarious and game-changing in the right situations as well.
@joelpierce1453
@joelpierce1453 4 жыл бұрын
Sinbad is extra useful with Norway because he can coastal raid. He's a naval melee unit, so if you have used all his charges you can still get more value!
@alantremonti1381
@alantremonti1381 4 жыл бұрын
Oh SHIT that seems ridiculous.
@Ritualist89
@Ritualist89 4 жыл бұрын
Oh fuggg
@dlaferri
@dlaferri 4 жыл бұрын
It's obviously specific to later eras, but parking Hippolyta next to an airport with four bombers/jet bombers in it is a pretty incredible way to just wreck your enemies because they ALL get their attacks restored.
@JohnDoe-dr9ff
@JohnDoe-dr9ff 4 жыл бұрын
Dr Mathishard That seems wonderfully buggy. 😅
@111ch1a1d111
@111ch1a1d111 4 жыл бұрын
Until the next patch
@JohnDoe-dr9ff
@JohnDoe-dr9ff 4 жыл бұрын
@@111ch1a1d111 Unless working as intended! 😬
@michaelibrahim9275
@michaelibrahim9275 4 жыл бұрын
Do they? By the wording it looks like she can only pick one unit, unless she just picks a tile and everything in that tile gets it’s movement restored
@dlaferri
@dlaferri 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelibrahim9275 That might be the wording, but I can confirm that every unit in the tile she picks gets its movement and attacks back. I have tested this on airports as well as a city that had an artillery and a bomber stationed in it.
@shmaughn
@shmaughn 4 жыл бұрын
Just like in real history, only Beowulf can actually kill vampires.
@jasonk.
@jasonk. 4 жыл бұрын
Omg, I never thought of that, waoh, finally can say goodbye to enemy vampires
@eyeborg3148
@eyeborg3148 4 жыл бұрын
Also good against opposing heroes
@bigfudge2031
@bigfudge2031 4 жыл бұрын
does he actually kill them for good?
@paulosergioribeiro7200
@paulosergioribeiro7200 4 жыл бұрын
Does Beowulf knows hamon?
@denniscain7218
@denniscain7218 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Beowulf the Vampire Slayer!
@guanxizheng1418
@guanxizheng1418 4 жыл бұрын
Potato: C is good Me in college: good indeed
@ehaslage
@ehaslage 4 жыл бұрын
C’s get degrees.
@Oberon4278
@Oberon4278 4 жыл бұрын
@@ehaslage Except at Harvard. Gotta get a B average there. They've got to be special in every way apparently.
@Oberon4278
@Oberon4278 4 жыл бұрын
@Egg T Be a millwright.
@mawile3037
@mawile3037 3 жыл бұрын
Credit is credit
@liampouncy7808
@liampouncy7808 4 жыл бұрын
Favourite thing to do with Maui: prepping a Petra/ St. Basil's Cathedral city. I've realised that often the great thing about the desert hills tile isn't the extra yield, it's the ability to put tile improvements on tiles you otherwise couldn't. If you can get him in done just before an era ticks over you can turn 8 tiles into incredible ones for a tundra/ desert city. It's nuts. Also, these cities are less likely to take the tiles you want to use him on (flat desert etc.). Using his ability where you plan to settle is also ridiculous -> you can just get free culture from a new jade etc. Also, you can't override strategy resources, so you can use him to scan for things like uranium. I think it's criminal to put him in B. :P EDIT: Make sure to check the comments to this too, other people have had great ideas I hadn't even thought of!
@bigfudge2031
@bigfudge2031 4 жыл бұрын
also amazing for buffing harbours or if you are playing new Cathrine for her city project.
@liampouncy7808
@liampouncy7808 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigfudge2031 Damn, I hadn't thought of that dude. Thanks for the tip.
@ed1659
@ed1659 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigfudge2031 Can also be useful with Cree. And for any civ with Great Zimbabwe. Not the most efficient hero, but really fun one
@Jay_Johnson
@Jay_Johnson 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigfudge2031 can also use with Indonesia for infinite kampungs which require/gain a tourism from adjacent fishing boats
@metroidnerd9001
@metroidnerd9001 4 жыл бұрын
Another thing I like about Maui is that the resources he provides are usually ones you don't have, at least for the first time you use him, so you're almost guaranteed to get a ton of Amenities out of him.
@8roomsofelixir
@8roomsofelixir 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine using Hippolyta's restore movement and attack ability on a Nuclear Bomber.
@nope2603
@nope2603 4 жыл бұрын
Rename her ability to "I'll fuckin do it again"
@aaronszukalski6121
@aaronszukalski6121 4 жыл бұрын
It gets even better man I've used it on bombers and it restores the movement and attacks for ALL of the ones in that district 🥴🙃
@ss5gogetunks
@ss5gogetunks 4 жыл бұрын
@@aaronszukalski6121 whoa that's bonkers!
@z0mbiefied611
@z0mbiefied611 4 жыл бұрын
gandhi approves this.
@Jondiceful
@Jondiceful 4 жыл бұрын
@@aaronszukalski6121 What about aircraft carriers?
@gudotermaat2926
@gudotermaat2926 4 жыл бұрын
Literally tried Sinbad for the first time 3 hours ago, and I laughed so hard at how stupidly broken he is. He generated about 3000 gold in total ON ONLINE SPEED which means he gains half the gold he normally gains. I insta bought markets and universities everywhere and was suddenly by far the strongest civ in the game!
@jojol.2630
@jojol.2630 4 жыл бұрын
Bro same
@leandroTRA
@leandroTRA 4 жыл бұрын
truly the one who found the most precious treasures Sinbad the be rich button
@andrewnewell8217
@andrewnewell8217 2 жыл бұрын
I love getting Sinbad just in time for a early golden age. Choose monumentality and then print settlers! You can easily double the size of your empire.
@Butterfinger314
@Butterfinger314 4 жыл бұрын
I love using Anansi on enemies’ luxury resources the reduce their amenities as well! Super fun to push early like you said
@bigfudge2031
@bigfudge2031 4 жыл бұрын
I like using him on "allies" luxuries.
@111ch1a1d111
@111ch1a1d111 4 жыл бұрын
He also removes improvements. Used him to crush production on an enemy city who I hadn't declared war on yet. Wiped out maybe 12-14 production and then moved my other military units in and wiped out the civ.
@bigfudge2031
@bigfudge2031 4 жыл бұрын
@@111ch1a1d111 that's kinda counter intuitive though, unless you are razing the cities you would want to keep those resources around.
@AUTvillacherboyAUT
@AUTvillacherboyAUT 4 жыл бұрын
only do that to allies when they are infront of you e.g. when you goibg for a cultural victory you can crush your allies tiles:)
@BraghDaMan
@BraghDaMan 4 жыл бұрын
As long as you have open borders you can use him in any civ's tiles with no repercussions. The AI just don't care!
@tripdandelion
@tripdandelion 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite use of Maui is in the mid-game, to make what would otherwise be a relatively unimpressive harbor into a completely bonkers one. If you have Hercules too then all the better. Step 1. Settle a new city Step 2. Place your harbor Step 3. Use Maui to add up to 3 new resources adjacent to it. Step 4. (optional) Use Hercules to finish the harbor immediately. If you already have a decent economy and have shipyards unlocked, that city can get going right away and will have extremely fast early growth.
@bigfudge2031
@bigfudge2031 4 жыл бұрын
Just want to point out that you can delete any of these heroes when you are done with their charges and you don't want them anymore so you can get the relic earlier.
@yngfljm2277
@yngfljm2277 4 жыл бұрын
This sounds like a Jebait
@alcatraz160
@alcatraz160 4 жыл бұрын
@@yngfljm2277 I tried it on my 1 turn left hippolyta. Can confirm it works.
@ShaqPlaque
@ShaqPlaque 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like an idiot missing this previously. I think the other important thing with this is since you can only recall once per age, you might want the hero dead & recalled now, especially for Sun Wukong who's extended lifespan might span multiple ages
@moon_wizard1250
@moon_wizard1250 4 жыл бұрын
This is interesting, but if I'm not playing a war game I like to keep them around as long as possible for the extra military strength. Having 2-3 heroes gives you a sizeable strength boost and allows you to keep a skeleton crew army without the AI wanting to declare war on you.
@possiblybanana7495
@possiblybanana7495 4 жыл бұрын
If you sacrifice them to a volcano I don't think you do though.
@logankrohn1472
@logankrohn1472 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows the the best hero is the Venetian Arsenal.
@logankrohn1472
@logankrohn1472 4 жыл бұрын
Neat
@ed1659
@ed1659 4 жыл бұрын
I really think Himiko might be most powerful early Hero. In one of my games, i met a lot of city states first and had some easy quests to complete. Long story short, i was able to levy 3 city-states armies at about turn 20-30 and got myself 3 more cities and 1 less neighbor essentially for free (for like 2 turns of production to get Himiko). Also she really helps to get and keep every city-state suzerainty much earlier into the game. Also she can get easy pantheon if you don't have any faith generation and don't want to waste 25turns with godking card. She is excellent scout. And she has longer lifespan than most heroes
@gunzakimbo
@gunzakimbo 4 жыл бұрын
I like Anansi for that same reason, aside from religion victory, he can just propel you and get you where you need to be for the winning stretch! Himiko is very similar like you said, she can be game breaking with Sid if you can use him for the money! I definitely wanna try Himiko Hungary run now that you mention it! xD
@Alexander_Chase22
@Alexander_Chase22 4 жыл бұрын
You know when you can dominate your neighbor without building any military something is busted.
@crypticmrchimes
@crypticmrchimes 4 жыл бұрын
@@gunzakimbo I would argue that Anansi is the best Hero for the Religious victory because his ability allows you to invest in holy sites and getting a religion while making sure your keeping up with science and getting to the key civics like Theology and Reformed Church faster. Secondly, you should DEFINITELY try Himiko with Hungary the ability to use her charges to either gain suzerainty over city states or get free levy’s along with two envoys is phenomenal, especially the latter since you can save up on gold until you get the Foreign Ministry. That and her acting as a great general on top of the bonuses Matthias gives levied units makes him borderline impossible to stop!
@ed1659
@ed1659 4 жыл бұрын
@@Alexander_Chase22 Exactly! You can continue playing as you would normally (although its best to escort your civilians now, who knows where enemy scouts are) Wanted to go for religion? Great, build settlers! Wanted to build early campus? Nice, make yourself a settler. Why settlers? Depending on situation, your conquered enemy could have already built holy site/campus, so you are getting them great people points. And if you are going for domination, you can build your army and send them to other neighbor, because when you are done conquering with levied troops, you can teleport Himiko back to your capital for that huuuuuuuge +10 cs for easy conquest (which has 2 tiles range, same as great general, potato though it was only for adjacent) I had lucky Macedon game with early Himiko and i also had Wolin's suzerainty even before her. Game ended very-very fast
@lekanske3816
@lekanske3816 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed, also Hungary with Himiko is very strong
@danielkinney6518
@danielkinney6518 4 жыл бұрын
As others have said, Beowulf is incredibly valuable on the offense because he can delete units that are inside of districts. This makes sieges incredibly easy, since you can kill xbows and other units that would normally be invincible inside the the city until you've captured it. Another thing I'd like to point out is that Beowulf's ability doesn't count as a normal attack, which means that, if he has enough movement left, he can do a normal attack in addition to deleting a unit. Personally, I'd say he's A tier if you get him early (early rushes can be a very good way to boost one's economy, and this guy can make any civ effective at them), S if you're going for domination victory, and B tier otherwise.
@kenlove574
@kenlove574 4 жыл бұрын
one part of Maui that i noticed is that he can give you info on undiscovered strategic resource locations, if you try to use his ability and it doesn't let you then it means there is a resource there already. so if you are willing to save scum then you can scout out future locations for industrial zones, which is great for the Gaul. might also show leylines but i haven't tested that on secret societies mode
@lordofhunger5175
@lordofhunger5175 4 жыл бұрын
While Hercules and Arthur are great, Potato is my hero in Civ 6 XD
@burstcity3832
@burstcity3832 4 жыл бұрын
Potato gives you knowledge! by far the best hero...followed by Heracles
@ncteeter
@ncteeter 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a way we can petition Firaxis for a PotatoMcWhiskey information age hero?
@burstcity3832
@burstcity3832 4 жыл бұрын
@@ncteeter We'd need someone with a bit of influence that Firaxis are aware of and watch....hmmmm, who can we get to point it out to them?
@brianhum8765
@brianhum8765 4 жыл бұрын
@@burstcity3832 Just need to disguise it as one of the videos of him and Brit breaking the game.
@yihadistxdl951
@yihadistxdl951 4 жыл бұрын
@@ncteeter not sure but there should be at least
@Phlebas
@Phlebas 3 жыл бұрын
A few games ago, I had a devotion to Sinbad going in a coastal city. It was the classical era, so I was determined to devote all of my resources to get him so that he can explore the map. I was really annoyed when a rival Civ claimed him first. Even more so when I discovered that Civ (it was France) and saw Sinbad pacing back and forth in a two-tile lake.
@Thoran666
@Thoran666 4 жыл бұрын
I misread the title as "The Civ 6 Potato Tier List". Then I realized Civ 6 doesn't have many potatoes and I'm disapointed.
@lekanske3816
@lekanske3816 4 жыл бұрын
Civ 6 doesn't even have potato resource smh
@vascosassettipintoleite8506
@vascosassettipintoleite8506 4 жыл бұрын
@@alex2005z there’s a mod for it, look up south american resources
@vascosassettipintoleite8506
@vascosassettipintoleite8506 4 жыл бұрын
@@alex2005z é bem fixe mano, tem coca, capivaras, lamas
@samvimes9510
@samvimes9510 4 жыл бұрын
@@vascosassettipintoleite8506 I was about to mention that! It's Latin American Resources by Leugi, it adds llamas, capybaras, coca, potatoes, yerba mate and quinoa.
@theplasmawolf
@theplasmawolf 4 жыл бұрын
I'm doing a Mali run right now, and Hercules completed 6/7 of my earliest Holy sites. The 5th, 6th, 7th had a completion time of 100+ turns when I started their construction. Desert cities are notoriously hard to develop so having the Holy sites with desert folklore and work ethic solves the production part of development at least.
@111ch1a1d111
@111ch1a1d111 4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@o_groupie
@o_groupie 4 жыл бұрын
Hippolyta's Comand can target a full Aerodrome with Airport building for 8 bombing attack per turn.
@111ch1a1d111
@111ch1a1d111 4 жыл бұрын
Wow.
@alantremonti1381
@alantremonti1381 4 жыл бұрын
Wooow.
@ThatGuy-sk2nc
@ThatGuy-sk2nc 4 жыл бұрын
21:11 Well I mean technically Sun Wukong is a monkey but sure we’ll call him a shark
@wafflehaxxx
@wafflehaxxx 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Wukong can transform into a shark if he wants to.
@mitochondria6247
@mitochondria6247 4 жыл бұрын
@@wafflehaxxx yea, but he doesn't do well with water, so it cancels out.
@ThinkBeyondTheBox
@ThinkBeyondTheBox 4 жыл бұрын
4:07 That is what I needed to hear going into exam season
@jaydenliberty9536
@jaydenliberty9536 4 жыл бұрын
I can speak from experience: you can use Anansi’s Tricks INSIDE OPPONENT BORDERS to delete their luxuries and force them to buy yours for exorbitant prices Easy S everything else included
@press_x_tojason
@press_x_tojason 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was the first thing I thought to do.
@z0mbiefied611
@z0mbiefied611 4 жыл бұрын
trembles in aztec
@ShaqPlaque
@ShaqPlaque 4 жыл бұрын
Do you need to be at war or can he do this to a neutral/friend/ally?
@grjjboy
@grjjboy 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShaqPlaque It can be anyone, he just needs to be on top of the resource. As far as I know you don't suffer a penalty from doing to an ally either, they just let you go around and destroy their resources.
@jaydenliberty9536
@jaydenliberty9536 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShaqPlaque all you need to do is have open borders. Relationship doesn’t matter, and doesn’t *seem* to be affected (although I play on Prince)
@nimrodarsenal
@nimrodarsenal 4 жыл бұрын
Reading the comments, there are so many hidden abilities which are waiting to be discovered. I’m waiting for the updated list in 2 months
@Pasakoye
@Pasakoye 4 жыл бұрын
Beowulf removes crossbowmen and ranged ships from walled cities. Not C tier.
@finduin
@finduin 4 жыл бұрын
I'll send him alone to clean the field for others, that was amazing, and I believed that Anansi should be on B tier, cause that 1 range exposed him so much
@mathdemigod8162
@mathdemigod8162 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think that's enough by itself to get him up past C. The fact is he's still only really useful in a domination victory, which makes him niche
@equilintogo5378
@equilintogo5378 4 жыл бұрын
@@mathdemigod8162 nope, he's useful for conquest, which can benefit any victory. Civs with early conquest games can benefit from him a lot and dont recall him after the conquest is done. He is B imo.
@jan-lukas
@jan-lukas 4 жыл бұрын
@@equilintogo5378 conquest is bad when doing culture (at least when killing Civs)
@stecon5
@stecon5 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s the one thing I wished he mentioned. Being able to take out ranged units in a city is insanely powerful. Also if you want to push any non-domination win, I think he’s arguably top 2-3 strongest defensive hero too.
@olechristianbrsum9453
@olechristianbrsum9453 4 жыл бұрын
One thing to remember about Maui is that his ability also tells you where bonus resources that are not discovered are located by telling you that you can NOT place anything there, which makes it easier to place cities in locations which will get niter, coal, uranium, oil etc. in the future eras.
@caleblittle27
@caleblittle27 4 жыл бұрын
Beowulf is honestly really good on offense, when I found out that he can kill units in city centers it made me start prioritizing them early game. Especially when archers can just sit in a city center and crush any early game army, Beowulf makes clearing out a civs city much easier.
@justinsmeer9539
@justinsmeer9539 3 жыл бұрын
Something worth noting is Himiko is an unbelievably good 1st hero because getting suzerainty of multiple city states early will discover other heroes faster. Allowing you to likely get any hero you want as your second.
@Raqdolll
@Raqdolll 4 жыл бұрын
I used Beowulf in offence, and it has a good use in it. You can target cities with Beowulf's challenge, and destroy the defending unit from there. It really helps if the target has crossbows etc.
@artemi7
@artemi7 4 жыл бұрын
Maui has amazing synergy with things like Marshes. You can't put a farm there normally, but he's very likely to put something like rice on there, allowing you to keep the marsh and still build farm triangles. Try him out with Lady of Reeds and Marshes, trust me, it's really fun!
@instructorbixby5719
@instructorbixby5719 4 жыл бұрын
King Arthur's is best used on a Levied City States army and becomes incredibly powerful if used in synergy with kimiko.
@jonathangalle8639
@jonathangalle8639 Жыл бұрын
This is smart, I generally pop out scouts to turn into knights I'm going to give this a try the next time it presents itself.
@JCMiniPainting
@JCMiniPainting 4 жыл бұрын
Yaaay the tier lists are coming back!
@gumbycat5226
@gumbycat5226 4 жыл бұрын
I like Maui because you can build amazing harbour adjacencies.
@alexwilliams8365
@alexwilliams8365 4 жыл бұрын
I just thought about a King Arthur lead Byzantium and that thought both excites and frightens me.
@Azzaciel
@Azzaciel 4 жыл бұрын
Wait. If Hercules Rages on enemy Theatre districts. If he yeets their great work slots low enough that they don't have enough for all their great works, does he just delete them?
@JohnDoe-dr9ff
@JohnDoe-dr9ff 4 жыл бұрын
Azzaciel I believe great works lost to a district being destroyed (either Hercules or razing the city) result in their permanent loss.
@t3hmaniac
@t3hmaniac 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-dr9ff "Show's over, Shakespeare."
@JohnDoe-dr9ff
@JohnDoe-dr9ff 4 жыл бұрын
@@t3hmaniac 🤣
@joelpierce1453
@joelpierce1453 4 жыл бұрын
Note about Beowulf: his unique ability works with units *inside* cities. Which means if there's a troublesome crossbowman or something sitting in an enemy city and sniping your units, Beowulf can run up to the walls and delete that pesky unit. This alone makes him very valuable on offense.
@ironchef8000
@ironchef8000 3 ай бұрын
Another note about Beowulf: his ability works on Sanguine Pact vampires! Situational, yes, but also the most absurdly powerful ability when you have some angsty vampires coming at you (or protecting enemy cities).
@drewmarr3315
@drewmarr3315 3 жыл бұрын
Anansi is absolutely fantastic for taking luxuries from other civs to skyrocket you through eras
@jamariscott
@jamariscott 4 жыл бұрын
PMW: Domination is a snowball and these heroes don't have use outside of a domination victory. Also PMW: SunWuKong is awesome at pillaging S tier
@SephK13
@SephK13 4 жыл бұрын
You see, there is war to subjugate the enemy population, and war to take away the enemy's toys. Potato only wants their stuff, then he can come by after they have fixed it and take it again! :P
@ecclesiaandune687
@ecclesiaandune687 4 жыл бұрын
you dont need to actually go for a domination victory to get value from Wukong though. Regardless of your victory type, you can put the raid card in, declare war on someone you have no intention of actually conquering and just wander through their empire pillaging, getting insane gold/faith/science and putting them behind
@paulstelmack4354
@paulstelmack4354 4 жыл бұрын
If Hercules Rage works on Government Plazas then you could really gimp an opponent.
@thewonderdoc2999
@thewonderdoc2999 4 жыл бұрын
One thing really great about Maui though is that his ability lets you also scout future strategic resources, because he can‘t use his ability on tiles that have strategics even if they aren‘t revealed yet. Also he can use it on coastal tiles which isn‘t immediately obvious I feel which could buff your harbours for example.
@BraghDaMan
@BraghDaMan 4 жыл бұрын
I always try for him second if I can for that reason. He just does everything. Even if not at war, he just roflstomps barbs once his charges are gone, and there are always places to use his charges.
@brettgrossman1113
@brettgrossman1113 4 жыл бұрын
I would have put Anansi in S tier personally. The sheer amount of culture and science you can generate early with him is insane, all the while sabotaging an enemy's tiles. You can easily get 5 full techs and 5 full civics with him.
@remlapwastaken8857
@remlapwastaken8857 4 жыл бұрын
He's probably going to get nerfed. Potato's logic is solid too, he's insane if you discover him early, but loses a lot of ground later in the game.
@brettgrossman1113
@brettgrossman1113 4 жыл бұрын
@@remlapwastaken8857 Early game is king though in civ and I don't think anyone does as much for your early game as him. And its not like he's useless later
@KingMJAH
@KingMJAH 4 жыл бұрын
Supper powerful, the only slight downside is that the districts cost more.
@brettgrossman1113
@brettgrossman1113 4 жыл бұрын
@@KingMJAH That's a downside of science and culture in general. That's like saying using a great scientist is bad because it'll make your districts more expensive
@KingMJAH
@KingMJAH 4 жыл бұрын
@@brettgrossman1113 just meant that you should get the techs you need for some key districts and place them down before you activate him to lock in their price if you have the time.
@gumballking5479
@gumballking5479 4 жыл бұрын
anansi is also useful for getting rid of a luxury which blocks perfect district placement
@jgrferreira09
@jgrferreira09 10 ай бұрын
Hippolyta can also restore civilian units' movements, like builders. Because her ability doesn't have a charge limit, she's great to boost tile improvement (especially when you have some builders dropped in a hilly/forest terrain or you want to chop all your tiles to build a wonder)
@colesweed
@colesweed 4 жыл бұрын
Arthur is astounding early game: make 5 scouts, get 5 questing knights, win
@bkd_riptide2610
@bkd_riptide2610 3 жыл бұрын
Pair him with Himiko and you can turn city states units into questing knights
@jamesm27
@jamesm27 4 жыл бұрын
I love the distribution between the tiers!!! Thank you Potato! :) I still have ~4 of the heroes to play with and I'm excited to see them in action.
@lelysio5688
@lelysio5688 4 жыл бұрын
HELL YES. i TOTALLY agree with your decision about sun wukong.he is AMAZING. i just say it like this: the norway pillaging spree is ON FIRE. ITS BROKEN.
@TDFuhringer
@TDFuhringer 4 жыл бұрын
Total agreement! Also can't wait to see your reaction to today's Dev Video and the final words... "One More... YEAR" :D
@LifeforDreamable
@LifeforDreamable 4 жыл бұрын
Just realised that Hercules doesn't just pillage all buildings, but actually DESTROYS them
@adamgajda7096
@adamgajda7096 4 жыл бұрын
I played with the twins on deity. The Maui decided to march a total of 5 settlers and ~20 units through my territory in ancient era. He got them all. Insane.
@dannydeng3640
@dannydeng3640 4 жыл бұрын
When strategic resource spawns on inca UI tile: Anansi: Y E S.
@BraghDaMan
@BraghDaMan 4 жыл бұрын
He doesn't do strategics though.
@dannydeng3640
@dannydeng3640 4 жыл бұрын
@@BraghDaMan still same result
@BraghDaMan
@BraghDaMan 4 жыл бұрын
@@dannydeng3640 How? Anansi can't delete the strategic from under the terrace farm, so how does he matter in that case?
@dannydeng3640
@dannydeng3640 4 жыл бұрын
@@BraghDaMan it still works for luxuries...?
@BraghDaMan
@BraghDaMan 4 жыл бұрын
@@dannydeng3640 luxury and bonus
@ashaf3561
@ashaf3561 4 жыл бұрын
Anansi is pretty undervalued. If you get this as your first hero you are probably generating maybe 10 science/culture a turn by then. This unit walks up to your neighbor and extremely sets them back while giving you 360 science and 300 culture. That launches you so far ahead in tech and science that even if I had hercules offered to me I would get this guy first and resurrect him first too. If you get him 1 era later you might be generating like 30 of each a turn by then but he increased by 30 and now gives you a total of 540 science and 480 culture. This is absolutely broken and way harder to achieve than building more districts. Who wouldn't trade 1k faith for that much science and tech. Lets say hercules builds 3 +4 campuses. That would take nearly 100 turns to pay more than what anasi gave you. Much later in the game I would take hercules over anasi because grievances matter more and districts cost way more. The timing pushes you can do with being able to leap in tech is insane as well. Not to mention the exponential growth from gaining things like feudalism/apprenticeship sooner gives you too.
@nugget7892
@nugget7892 4 жыл бұрын
Potato you should consider one thing with anansi, you can use him on enemy tiles which makes him like 100 times better, he could be s tier too
@111ch1a1d111
@111ch1a1d111 4 жыл бұрын
And the AI doesn't generate any grievances from him doing that.
@BraghDaMan
@BraghDaMan 4 жыл бұрын
They don't even have to be enemies! As long as you have open borders it's free real estate
@jtrips476
@jtrips476 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a really big fan of Maui, especially with the new game mode. The ability to magic more luxury resources into the world and get another or improve an existing corporation is pretty cool
@Ninjadude784
@Ninjadude784 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot about the s tier Venetian Arsenal
@TheDanorte
@TheDanorte Жыл бұрын
Himiko is the most powerful hero by far. Only Hercules gets close. Her +10 ability is completely busted, it's literally 2 great generals. With only 4 units it's 40 strength, but can affect up to 17 units. The ability to suzerain and levy for free can give you 2 extra armies before you even have a settler. Plus, she is the best scout in the game. Getting the free envoy from finding city-states first is amazing early game. With her 40 turn lifespan, 4 movement and sight range she can reveal a whole map in the ancient era. Nothing comes close. It shocks me that this isn't engrained in the mind of a seasoned Civ6 player. Himiko is the best combat hero even in a game without citystates.
@eamonbell6378
@eamonbell6378 4 жыл бұрын
Sinbad is crazy good. He combos super well with Babylon because Babylon quickly gets advanced units and Sinbad helps you pay for them
@Abazzaar
@Abazzaar 4 жыл бұрын
Seems he can solve the essential Babylon problem - how to get 750 gold to upgrade that 3 archers on turn 20.
@bernardo-x5n
@bernardo-x5n 4 жыл бұрын
8:38 If so, that would be actually broken, since a combat outcome depends on the difference between combat strengths, so 2 units with 110 and 120 CS have the same result in a battle as 2 units with 10 and 20 CS
@equilintogo5378
@equilintogo5378 4 жыл бұрын
She does not scale unfortunately
@joelpetersmedia
@joelpetersmedia 4 жыл бұрын
18:35 "Do not pass go. Do not collect $200." No, collect 500. Multiple times.
@uzernamefail
@uzernamefail 4 жыл бұрын
Some fun combos: - Hungary/Himiko: Wait, you mean I can have +14 units with +2 movement, for free? And I can do this with practically every city state around me? You can basically win the game off of recruiting her once if there are enough nearby civs. Oh yeah, and the free levy still gives you the bonus envoys. - Norway/Wukong: haha pillage go brrr - Maori/Maui: All water bonus/luxury resources use fishing boats, so you always get the culture bombs and food - Babylon/Hercules: Get a free district AND a free building! - Mongols/Arthur OR Hippolyta OR Oya: Questing knights count towards Mongolia’s bonus, captured cavalry normally can’t move and have low health Need to test Scythia/Twins still though
@ed1659
@ed1659 4 жыл бұрын
Scythia + Hippolyta + Hunahpu & Xbalanque
@michaelchu7641
@michaelchu7641 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Potato, I would bump up Hippolyta for its support capabilities. I’ve been playing her in domination games and she can basically double the efficiency of your bombards. That means taking down walls faster and earning xp faster. Very good in mid game when you mainly have 1 attack front. Definitely better than the twins, twins are good early game especially if you can get the units needed to trigger eurekas. However, loses effectiveness as you tech up because the base attack tends to be lower and you need to wait for heals, which eats into lifespan.
@AbundantlyLimbed
@AbundantlyLimbed 2 жыл бұрын
In the late game make sure to pair the twins with medic units to speed up their heals
@ninjiinc.8883
@ninjiinc.8883 2 жыл бұрын
i like sun wu kong purely because of his historical context, which includes but is not limited to peeing on the pilar’s of the universe, graffitiing the pilar’s of the universe, rejecting a bunch of super powered weapons and instead just grabbing a massive size changing pilar and using it as a staff, as soon as he was born bowing to the four cardinal directions accidentally activating his laser eyes, and these are all just in the first 7 of 100 chapters of journey to the west
@vender68
@vender68 4 жыл бұрын
Himiko is S tier as hungary
@Monteath777
@Monteath777 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you revisit this with all the DLCs like Corporations and Monopolies and the others to see how they affect certain heroes (I believe with barbarians going into city state really nerfs Sinbad, for example). Be interesting to do a second take.
@nuhni-no4ks
@nuhni-no4ks 4 жыл бұрын
In one of my recent games I just spammed a few scouts, got arthur and turned them into a mighty army
@JohnDoe-dr9ff
@JohnDoe-dr9ff 4 жыл бұрын
nuhni0107 Instant peons to knights! Was wondering ways to use Arthur for early wars, and that’s a solid strategy.
@111ch1a1d111
@111ch1a1d111 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-dr9ff For a few turns. If you make 6 questing knights, the first only only has 6 turns left by the time the last one is created.
@JohnDoe-dr9ff
@JohnDoe-dr9ff 4 жыл бұрын
@@111ch1a1d111 🤔 Tidal wave of knights. Crank out scouts, knight them, send them to slam against a city. Don’t need to wait to send them all at once. They’re fodder for the Crusade! 😅
@BraghDaMan
@BraghDaMan 4 жыл бұрын
Kinda fixes Byzantium's early game while you're waiting to get to his knights, too. You can start conquering super early.
@jakobraahauge7299
@jakobraahauge7299 4 жыл бұрын
Tier means animal in German - and honestly watching you play around with all of these heroes has been beastly good fun! Love you very much ❤️ Merry Christmas!
@pazaldinhio
@pazaldinhio 4 жыл бұрын
I found Hercules can destroy wonders... feels good when they've sniped one from you!
@kappeee98
@kappeee98 4 жыл бұрын
Wait what? Really?
@vvalik
@vvalik 4 жыл бұрын
At first I doubted about Hercules as S tier, but after this I think he is the best hero. Another question, can he destroy unconstructed wonder?
@ajarnangus8837
@ajarnangus8837 2 жыл бұрын
A very helpful vid and ranking. After playing with the heroes for a while, (Immortal level) for me Sun Wukong is a clear NO. 1 - a massive wartime economy boost, devastating the enemy economy and storming weak cities (all game long with as many resurrections as possible) , Himiko & Aanasi (early game essentials, Himiko getting city states to form a protective layer from agressive neighbours) and Aanasi scouting and robbing their land to blunt their war effort AND catching you up in culture and science. Sinbad's gold boosts are great at any time. Arthur was dissapointing until I was once almost overun by Samurai and crossbow barbarians, those questing knights soon turned the tables. Agree with your ranking of Beowulf too... laughing out loud as he effortlessly destroys ranged city units.
@ChloyeFeraythArel
@ChloyeFeraythArel 4 жыл бұрын
Anansi is also great to use on your opponents' luxuries to deny them amenities and up your trade bargains. All you need is open borders.
@cherinator
@cherinator 4 жыл бұрын
And you can use him on luxuries that they've already improved!
@wolftotalwar
@wolftotalwar 4 жыл бұрын
Hippolyta is super useful in the early game as a settler link. You can keep using her to make your settler go double speed and forward settle the AI or rush a far away city
@111ch1a1d111
@111ch1a1d111 4 жыл бұрын
AI has no hero strategy. Using this mode is equivalent to playing one or two levels easier.
@Wargasmo
@Wargasmo 2 жыл бұрын
Trueeeeeee. The AI is already pretty damn bad. I mostly just turn on heroes when I want to have a fun, easy game. I was scared to run my army into Oya in my last game, but the AI promptly lost her like an idiot.
@Sinvare
@Sinvare 4 жыл бұрын
The update to this list is going to be a ton of fun. So many people have shared strategies I would never think of.
@popcultureotaku3761
@popcultureotaku3761 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, hippolyta's ability also works on civilian units.
@alantremonti1381
@alantremonti1381 4 жыл бұрын
@Brian Krog that's hilarious!
@leandroTRA
@leandroTRA 4 жыл бұрын
@Brian Krog that deserves a small clip with potato saying, ''perrrrrfectly balanced Yonk''
@GarvotheGreat
@GarvotheGreat 6 ай бұрын
Love to see wukong getting love. I feel like maybe there are dime tactics youve left out or might be unaware of with a couple of heroes, kinda like how most people dont use wukong correctly, as the pillaging master. Hypolyta: can conquer cities by herself quickly. Sticking a unit to her is great, but its the wolverine regen that is her best ability. She tanks like no other unit. She also has a glitch which gives an extra turn to builders, so you can use two charges with one turn. She cant target the builder, but parking it on top of the unit she is targeting will give that extra turn to the builder, too. Arthur: another guy who just bowls through cities in the early game. Another guy who, through the same target glitch, can turn a builder with one charge into a questing Knight. His glitch doesnt make two knights, it just makes the builder the Knight instead of the unit you targeted on the same square. Pop 2 charges, trade be third for a knight. Makes scouts useful military units. And if you save his powers for the end of his lifespan, youre really getting more than just his lifespan out of him. Ive taken like 6 cities before the year 2000 bc using just arthur and one charge builders. Beowulf: the hero killer. All the heroes are cool units, but they all fear one among them. It sucks to fight against hypolyta or the twins, but its terrifying to fight Beowulf and he gives you perfect protection from the other heroes. He drives all other heroes before him. Maui: lets you be the first to build all the corporations. Just get them all by using maui to put down those luxuries you're missing. He can really help you become the monopoly.
@JarenWelen
@JarenWelen 4 жыл бұрын
I'm curious about the wording of Arthur: "An adjacent military unit you control". Would this be best used on city state levies who have a limited time to use anyway?
@BraghDaMan
@BraghDaMan 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Precisely that. And if the game works as I think it does, it'll also remove the "levied" tag, thus allowing you to have them after the levy times out potentially.
@LordHammer33
@LordHammer33 4 жыл бұрын
@@BraghDaMan Questing knights disappear after their turns are up so doesn't really matter
@BraghDaMan
@BraghDaMan 4 жыл бұрын
@@LordHammer33 right but what I'm saying is if you Arthur levied units up in the last 6 turns of the levy then you could potentially have them for another 6.
@KnightofBretonnia
@KnightofBretonnia 4 жыл бұрын
A perfectly balanced tier list, you love to see it.
@jacksondowney4327
@jacksondowney4327 4 жыл бұрын
Vietnamese hero idea: Au Co (creation myth). Adds 3 population to a chosen city. City must be built on a hill. 3 charges.
@crixus9628
@crixus9628 4 жыл бұрын
Not the video I expected, but the video I needed
@snootycapybara3683
@snootycapybara3683 4 жыл бұрын
Sinbad 1) Archipelago 2) Edit Natural Wonders 3) Profit
@jacobweckerle3538
@jacobweckerle3538 4 жыл бұрын
Its always a good day when I get a new Potato video! Keep up the great content!
@LINKedup101
@LINKedup101 4 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched this yet, but Hercules is bae
@Cardb33
@Cardb33 4 жыл бұрын
One really good thing you can do with Maui is plop down a bunch of fishing resources adjacent to the tile you'll be building your Harbor on. It's a great way to get amazing Harbors. I used him in a recent game where I won a culture game as Japan and the cities would've struggled with production but I got the Habors to +6 or +8 base and then you double it and buy the shipyard so the city jumps up a lot in value. Other than that he's weak but that's a good advantage. Hercules is definitely the best the early game potential building 3 districts instantly and Sinbad is amazing too especially for Gold and Era score which has a ton of value on top of map knowledge. Great tier list!
@AliasAerius
@AliasAerius 4 жыл бұрын
If you're playing Indonesia, Maui jumps up to A or S tier. Each resource he creates on water can let you make up to half a dozen Kampungs when you settle a city there.
@humanplace4254
@humanplace4254 3 жыл бұрын
The base strength and abilities of Arthur and Beowulf are insane though, they are my go to for an early war straight up through immortal.
@locktock9
@locktock9 4 жыл бұрын
an interesting list, even if it writes off amazing combat heroes just cos they're combat XD Mulan for example, really turns into a god if left unchecked
@jamesdinius7769
@jamesdinius7769 3 жыл бұрын
It's like he said, they aren't bad, just rigid. Domination is already the most rediculous snowball in the game. They either get you started earlier, or are a win more button.
@danielfleming4551
@danielfleming4551 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Potato, you helped me so much!
@nicholasneyhart396
@nicholasneyhart396 4 жыл бұрын
Woah. Himuko and Hungary is broken.
@nicholasneyhart396
@nicholasneyhart396 4 жыл бұрын
Ok I am biased as a Hungary main.
@lorddracon8992
@lorddracon8992 4 жыл бұрын
you can use the twins against barb camps to get an army by just farming the barbs spawned using them as long as he is strong enough, oya could be paired with him to heal him
@ed1659
@ed1659 4 жыл бұрын
What i really like about heroes in deity games, is when in early game AI decides that you have played enough and surround your city, you are like "nice try, but my city combat strength will be 40 in 2 turns LOL"
@dmitritelvanni4068
@dmitritelvanni4068 2 жыл бұрын
7:02 in my last Russia tsl game I started in the classical and used my builder to chop out my Lavra. I was so far ahead of the AI on faith it wasn't even possible for anyone to catch up.
@brianhum8765
@brianhum8765 4 жыл бұрын
They misspelled his name; it's Sinsogood not Sinbad
@christopherjohnson1873
@christopherjohnson1873 4 жыл бұрын
A PotatoMcWhiskey tier list is an INSTANT click.
@potatoinga5629
@potatoinga5629 4 жыл бұрын
hold up i just realized that you can... you can make a crossbowman shoot 4 times with hippolita (promotion that gives +1 attack + restoring movement points)
@bigfudge2031
@bigfudge2031 4 жыл бұрын
yes, add Himiko for even more fun.
@winoodlesnoodles1984
@winoodlesnoodles1984 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly my plan. Haven't had a chance to abuse it yet, but I am sure it will bring a smile when I do. :)
@floor_tank_shanks4194
@floor_tank_shanks4194 3 жыл бұрын
As somebody who doesn't really play domination much, Beowulf and Arthur are fun to use and my go to for attacking cities. Beowulf's ability is awesome to help get stronger enemy units out of the way. Makes it much easier
@thefalloutguru
@thefalloutguru 4 жыл бұрын
maui is s tier when planning the perfect petra city or tundra city as peter
@Athereal750
@Athereal750 4 жыл бұрын
With everything I've learned from these comments (and there was alot of ways to use these heroes that I didn't realize) I think I would change the tier list as follows: S: Anansi, Hercules, Sinbad A: Beowulf, Himiko, Hippolyta, Sun Wukong B: Hunapu & Xbalanque, Mulan, Oya C: Maui D: King Arthur
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