The Civil War: American Masterclass with Historian David Barton | Louder With Crowder

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@True77
@True77 6 ай бұрын
I'd listen to this guy all day long talk about American history. This series has been fantastic. Genuine thank you for making these.
@muchadoaboutkovu
@muchadoaboutkovu 6 ай бұрын
It’s weird.. I have lived in the north all my life and we were always taught that the north were heroes by ending slavery and they tend to demonize the confederate army. But to say “many men in the south joined the fight not for slavery but because the north invaded the south”.. that is what I’d expect my family to do if we were invaded. Policies aside, that is such a tragic yet heroic thing to do.
@SoloRenegade
@SoloRenegade 6 ай бұрын
which makes it all the more brilliant that Lincoln pardoned the South to heal wounds and get back to being a united nation. And after WW1 the US advised UK/France to likewise forgive Germany, they refused....giving us WW2. After WW2, the US once again followed Lincoln's example and forgave the Germans and Japanese and ushered in the greatest period of peace and prosperity in human history. All due to the legacy of Lincoln.
@nunyabusiness6691
@nunyabusiness6691 6 ай бұрын
​@@SoloRenegadeLincoln was the one who goaded the South into firing the first shot despite several in his cabinet instructing him to leave well enough alone. You talk about him being brilliant but he was a tyrant who had entire Southern cities burned to the ground. The legacy of Lincoln led to the normalcy of the rise of the power of the federal government and then overstepping their bounds.
@GTGibbs
@GTGibbs 6 ай бұрын
@@SoloRenegadeThanks for sharing it with us.
@Luke23453
@Luke23453 4 ай бұрын
SoloRenegade makes an excellent point. However we have countless letters from ordinary confederate soldiers who professed that their reason for fighting was the potential abolition of slavery as they saw it as an insult to status of white supremacy even if they didn't own any slaves themselves. This doesn't change the fact that most of the north was also heavily racist and white supremacist at the time but you're deluding yourself if you don't think most confederates knowingly and willingly fought to defend slavery.
@freezypop3496
@freezypop3496 6 ай бұрын
You all should read "fourteen months in American Bastiles" It will definitely give you a different view on Lincoln...
@GrowLLLTigeRRR
@GrowLLLTigeRRR 6 ай бұрын
Lincoln was a tyrant.
@JoshWise1010
@JoshWise1010 6 ай бұрын
Written by the grandson of Francis Scott Key while imprisoned for being a journalist in the same Fort his grandfather wrote the Star Bangled Banner about.
@calebbearup4282
@calebbearup4282 6 ай бұрын
It's also important to remember that several of the states didn't leave the union until the North declared war on the south. They felt that the best course of action was to stay within the union until the North broke what they thought the law was prohibiting what the federal government was allowed to do Ok adding for clarification. When Lincoln called up troops in order to send them into southern states in order to suppress the "rebellion" several states also then opted to secede as a result of them believing that the federal government had no legal authority to do so. Was it an official declaration of war? No It was however the action of engaging in warfare against the states that were what triggered the second round of secession
@9doggie12
@9doggie12 6 ай бұрын
Huh lol now that is fake news the north never declared war on the south.
@JCRascal14
@JCRascal14 6 ай бұрын
Confederacy started the war, attacking fort sumter first.
@nophlast4237
@nophlast4237 6 ай бұрын
Confidiots really like making random shit up just like their democrat counterparts today.
@noneyabuisness7742
@noneyabuisness7742 6 ай бұрын
Interesting, February of 1861 was the confederacy, April was Fort Sumter. Then after that in April, Lincoln did a blockade, which you might be claiming as a declaration of war.
@noname-oe9jy
@noname-oe9jy 6 ай бұрын
@@9doggie12 Says who? You're 8th grade history teacher?
@ArcherBro
@ArcherBro 6 ай бұрын
Raz0r Fist's videos on Lincoln and his war explain in better detail on how slavery was merely A reason and not THE reason and how Lincon was willing to make slavery permanent to bring the South back in.
@RobertNutbar
@RobertNutbar 6 ай бұрын
RazörFist’s civil war video is legendary 🤘
@ws-ss8ks
@ws-ss8ks 6 ай бұрын
The Corwin Amendment and Morrill Tariff are all you need to know about Lincoln's motivation. He wanted the South to pay the tariff to fund his buddies in the steel and railroad industries.
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 6 ай бұрын
Dude, the South itself told us the war was largely about slavery. The historian explained that by pointing out that in what were essentially their declarations of independence by seceding states, they gave slavery as a cause. The tariff business was mostly sorted out by 1860.
@ArcherBro
@ArcherBro 6 ай бұрын
@@ZIEMOWITIUS And as Raz0r Fist explained in greater detail than I can give here, that's misleading.
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 6 ай бұрын
@@ArcherBro Dude, your argument is misleading. Here is a quote from _Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union_ issued by South Carolina, the first state to secede and the state that attacked Fort Sumter, triggering the war: "The right of property in slaves was recognized by giving to free persons distinct political rights, by giving them the right to represent, and burthening them with direct taxes for three-fifths of their slaves; by authorizing the importation of slaves for twenty years; and by stipulating for the rendition of fugitives from labor . . . [t]hose States [the Northern States] have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection." In this document, which was essentially South Carolina's declaration of independence, no mention is given to any issue aside from slavery. The document pretty much does two things: explain the legal rationale for secession, and give their reason for secession in the first place. Nothing said about tariffs, only slavery.
@swedishguyonyoutube4684
@swedishguyonyoutube4684 2 ай бұрын
Words cannot express how important this content is.
@joshpantner8686
@joshpantner8686 6 ай бұрын
Just wanted to say thank you for not playing loud music in the background while doing these three video interviews
@Mark-zk3gu
@Mark-zk3gu 6 ай бұрын
How do you still watch this wife abuser?
@stevetucker2403
@stevetucker2403 6 ай бұрын
I like the loud background music :)
@joshpantner8686
@joshpantner8686 6 ай бұрын
@@stevetucker2403 well my friend you are part of a very few that do. Yes the music is nice but not at the same time as the interview.
@stevetucker2403
@stevetucker2403 6 ай бұрын
@@joshpantner8686 oh, I didn't mean during an interview, I just meant his intro music to Louder With Crowder show. That's my bad I read it as intro's not interviews :D
@Yolbosun
@Yolbosun 6 ай бұрын
The war of “ northern aggression “
@sebsignat8286
@sebsignat8286 6 ай бұрын
My god, why do we say Canadians are the nice people when they invaded America thus becoming northern aggression
@Yolbosun
@Yolbosun 6 ай бұрын
@@sebsignat8286 🤡
@aidenfurry471
@aidenfurry471 6 ай бұрын
which is odd considering the conflict started with the south attacking a Union Fort to steal weapons and supplies
@josiahtheobald689
@josiahtheobald689 6 ай бұрын
@@aidenfurry471 you talkin' bout Sumter?
@Yolbosun
@Yolbosun 6 ай бұрын
@@aidenfurry471 yeah Same fort the reinforcements were headed to🤔 It was a now or never …… Or false flags
@sethjones5250
@sethjones5250 6 ай бұрын
Having been to Gettysburg, and seen the shattered bones on display at the national museum of health and medicine. I don't particularly care for crowders tone here. The deeper you dig into the subject, the more you really understand about what happened. The more you get just how utterly horrific what happened was. This is not something to joke about. This is the bloodiest conflict ever fought on american soil. A great many men lost thier lives in it. Many lived with dibilitating painful wounds for the rest of their lives.
@Darthtommy774
@Darthtommy774 5 ай бұрын
I love when listening to people who really know the history from that long ago in extreme detail. Fascinating.
@thecaneater
@thecaneater 6 ай бұрын
Tim Pool jizzed his pants during the opening of this video.
@cranbury25
@cranbury25 6 ай бұрын
Show this to Razorfist
@bojackbojackbojack
@bojackbojackbojack 6 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking. The Whigs infiltrating the south and then proclaiming slavery was THE issue.
@mike6331
@mike6331 6 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@bojackbojackbojack
@bojackbojackbojack 6 ай бұрын
My comment got deleted. 6 hours ago.
@stanleyshannon4408
@stanleyshannon4408 6 ай бұрын
The razor was right about Lincoln. Barton isn't.
@mike6331
@mike6331 6 ай бұрын
@@stanleyshannon4408 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌🏻
@loganross1861
@loganross1861 6 ай бұрын
Crowder gets a lot of points for introducing us to this guy. I didn’t know about him or about our history
@jefflovespigs
@jefflovespigs 6 ай бұрын
I really like all of the series and this guy is good to hear this guy speak he is full of energy
@lisaletto7337
@lisaletto7337 6 ай бұрын
You asked the right question because Davids explanation was the best ever
@FeelinFactsForReal
@FeelinFactsForReal 6 ай бұрын
Man I was trying to take this seriously but Crowder had me cracking up loooool 😂😂 ok ok I did take it seriously BUT IT WASN'T EASY😂
@MIKE_THE_BRUMMIE
@MIKE_THE_BRUMMIE 6 ай бұрын
History is more complex then a comic book
@James_Barr
@James_Barr 6 ай бұрын
His statements about slavery are very misleading. I’ve just been reading Virginia’s secession document. It mentions slave states, but by no means declares it THE reason for secession. The reasons given are the perversion of the constitution by the government and the abuse of the citizens of the slaveholding states. Any number of issues, including slavery topics, are present in that statement. Even in South Carolina where their document mentions slavery, slave states, etc, the main focus on secession is the tossing aside of the Constitution itself and the northern states declaring an economy war on the slave states. So much going into that in addition to the institution of slavery. He should have said that slavery could not be EXCLUDED as A cause. But his statements were very misleading. I don’t think anyone is saying slavery has NOTHING to do with the Civil War, but what little research I’ve done in only a few minutes has undone his rhetoric.
@causticchameleon7861
@causticchameleon7861 6 ай бұрын
History is written by the victors. So you are only taught what the victors want the public to know. He’s just repeating talking points and going not much further.
@nophlast4237
@nophlast4237 6 ай бұрын
Standard Confidiot response. Playing down slavery like it wasn’t THE issue. If it was about states right why the hell didn’t the confederacy allow the confederate states to ban slavery on their own accord? Not that they even would but the confederacy would not ALLOW you to join if you banned slavery in your state. Just admit it was about slavery.
@YouTubalcaine
@YouTubalcaine 6 ай бұрын
The articles of secession weren't declarations of war, and Lincoln's declaration of war didn't mention slavery at all. He didn't declare that as an objective of the war until 1863. The reasons they _left_ the Union wasn't why they _fought_ the Union.
@factsoftheconfederacy7151
@factsoftheconfederacy7151 6 ай бұрын
I agree, he’s also either lying or ignorant on the fact that the confederate states had to have slavery. FALSE! Each state could abolish slavery, but congress couldn’t touch it. This is exactly how it was in the US constitution.
@PhthaloGreenskin
@PhthaloGreenskin 6 ай бұрын
The cotton states of thr deep south cited slavery as the number 1 reason for secession. The Cotton states like Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama, relied heavily on Cotton for the economy. The norther southern states like Virginia and the Carolinas slavery wasn't as much of a factor. Still a factor tho.
@anthonyminimum
@anthonyminimum 6 ай бұрын
7:10 Even if this was true, Washington in his will made Martha promos to free her slaves when she died, there’s the loophole the Virginia law never knew about
@THEPRESTIGEWORLDWIDE
@THEPRESTIGEWORLDWIDE 6 ай бұрын
THAT INTRO 😂😂😂 MOVIE TITLED “CIVIL WAR” 😂😂😂
@one-of-us9939
@one-of-us9939 6 ай бұрын
Good job!
@MENTALVisionGames137
@MENTALVisionGames137 2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@mayanboricua
@mayanboricua 6 ай бұрын
"A nation or people who will not use their intelligence, are no better than animals who do not have intelligence. Such people are beasts of burden and steaks on the table by choice & consent." -1979 IBM see eye aye
@Chris.8.8.
@Chris.8.8. 6 ай бұрын
Well played sir. I nod to what ya did there 😊
@terryhopp645
@terryhopp645 6 ай бұрын
I was thinking of doing mug club, maybe I wait till August? cause I really don't want to spend money for his vacation, or is there new content on it?
@tanrhd5089
@tanrhd5089 6 ай бұрын
Look I’m sure you don’t wanna get into this but Steven needs to learn a lesson on commitment to his brand and members so I don’t think you should join.. He has terrible work ethics, hardly notify his memebers on missing shows and reuploads videos from years ago while claiming he needs money to “create new content”. It’s your money but if you do pay for it wait till next month hes probably gonna be on vacation most this month just like last month..
@Hayhay0010
@Hayhay0010 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, it’s pretty funny he had this whole “Big con” initiative that fell flat on its face right before he disappeared for 3 months and then popped up like nothing happened. The reason I think it’s funny is because the daily wire goes above and beyond to provide content to paying customers. Crowder begs for subscribers, takes a bunch of time off, provides nothing particularly of value and doesn’t communicate or live up to promises with his subscribers. Sounds like he did nothing but project …🥴
@terryhopp645
@terryhopp645 6 ай бұрын
@tanrhd5089 you make a sound point, 10 dollars a month with over 100k followers and nothing for almost a month, getting paid a million dollars to take a month off is a sweet gig I'll give him that but to go and say it's us that make this happen and then stiff them is kind fcked up lol
@johnscarfe
@johnscarfe 5 ай бұрын
“Biting The Bullet “ was to keep from grinding and destroying the teeth while going through the pain of surgery without anesthesia.
@glacierfinancial
@glacierfinancial 6 ай бұрын
Phenomenal information. Thank you so much.
@alseppi5348
@alseppi5348 6 ай бұрын
David is amazing
@stanleyshannon4408
@stanleyshannon4408 6 ай бұрын
He is a liar
@alseppi5348
@alseppi5348 6 ай бұрын
@stanleyshannon4408 I'm sure you'll provide some proof.
@stanleyshannon4408
@stanleyshannon4408 6 ай бұрын
@@alseppi5348 he didn't.
@alseppi5348
@alseppi5348 6 ай бұрын
@stanleyshannon4408 then by your own standards, you're a liar as you provide none yourself. In which case one would have question why you would even comment in the first place. I would presume based on this interaction you're emotionally frail and immature. Also, cognitively shallow.
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 6 ай бұрын
@@stanleyshannon4408 You haven't provided any proof, only your own misinformed opinion. He gave the ordinances of secession, the cornerstone speech, as well as the Confederate Constitution itself (which included several provisions strengthening slavery).
@bryanduchane2371
@bryanduchane2371 6 ай бұрын
Can't imagine the value of these historical artifacts in his collection?
@ctsupergeek
@ctsupergeek 6 ай бұрын
I know you're going to be all over that assassination attempt
@DrummerJacob
@DrummerJacob 6 ай бұрын
Why are you re-uploading this? Its still available online. We can still just go watch it.
@tammycornejo9155
@tammycornejo9155 6 ай бұрын
Because we demand he show us
@b.a.hwyndham893
@b.a.hwyndham893 6 ай бұрын
Because the truth must be repeated until all the dumb normies hear it.
@JoshAintSoCool
@JoshAintSoCool 6 ай бұрын
It’s like when the teacher doesn’t feel like working so they just play a movie.
@calebw140
@calebw140 6 ай бұрын
Because he takes the month of July off and just uploads a bunch of shit he’s already filmed and tells us he takes the week of the 4th off
@theLeadGin
@theLeadGin 6 ай бұрын
How can you have so much history at your fingertips, but get so much wrong! Truly amazing 👏
@colbysnodgrass508
@colbysnodgrass508 6 ай бұрын
This guy needs a fireproof room so much memorabilia there and history it's awesome
@Majormusket
@Majormusket 6 ай бұрын
There was most definitely anesthesia usage during the civil war.
@JLMISR
@JLMISR 6 ай бұрын
PLEASE MAKE THIS MEME, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!! When LGB walks off the presser stage, the audience beaks out in laughter....PLEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Remnant1976
@Remnant1976 6 ай бұрын
Very good show!!!
@xtripsx11
@xtripsx11 6 ай бұрын
That saw bone stuff is so intense. Absolute bad asses
@sethjones5250
@sethjones5250 6 ай бұрын
Look up General Barnum, the guy who lived with an open bullet wound for the rest of his life, or General Joshua Chamberlain who became the last casualty of the war at the age of 90 something. Watch a video showing a tour of the national museum of health and medicine. Maybe pick up a lead civil war bullet if you can find one. It will really help you understand the kinds of injuries these doctors were dealing with at that time without an understanding of what causes infection, without antiseptics, limited anaesthetics. The large caliber lead bullets moved slow by today's standards, hit hard, draged sweaty germy bits of uniform down into the body and utterly shattered any bone it hit causing infection and necrosis if not treated.
@powertrioagency5795
@powertrioagency5795 6 ай бұрын
Oh It’s Popping Off🎯💯🪓.
@dstrate80
@dstrate80 6 ай бұрын
Why isn't your show on spotify?
@Bigsky1991
@Bigsky1991 6 ай бұрын
As a History major and Historian, it makes my head spin when ignorant people say constantly that Slavery was the reason for our Civil War. Nothing could be farther from the truth...at least initially. The REAL reason Gen. Lee resigned his Commission and agreed to lead a Confederate Army against his friends and Colleagues from West Point...and knowing he would probably lose his home, fortune, and life. The Financial tyranny of Northern States, and individual States rights were the core reason. Full stop. Slavery was " used" politically at the end of the War to motivate radical ( murderous) Northern political and activist groups...as well as raising Black Rifle Units...the idea of black units rampaging through the South wreaking havoc terrified the Southern population as well and actually prolonged the War. The Northern Armies and their leaders were notorious Rapists, murderers and pillaged. They committed Ghengis Khan caliber atrocities in the South. This is why I vehemently oppose tearing down Southern War Memorials and changing our Forts names. This is an AMERICAN story...and erasing our history is a tragedy.
@MSMNBC
@MSMNBC 6 ай бұрын
I once heard that New York controlled 70% of the money while most of the trade occurred in the Southern States. It wasn't fiat money but something seems off if that was true.
@Breakinwords
@Breakinwords 6 ай бұрын
Bait
@j.joseph5353
@j.joseph5353 6 ай бұрын
The 'slavery as a cause' nonsense was also sold to keep Europeans from intervening on the side of the Confederates and to harm their trade.
@MSMNBC
@MSMNBC 6 ай бұрын
@@Breakinwords not sure about the reference to 'bait', but are you saying that a power is baiting historians into the open?
@syncue5411
@syncue5411 6 ай бұрын
Well said
@Roh_Echt
@Roh_Echt 6 ай бұрын
Why? Because it is our duty to select our representatives to serve in "our Govt" on our behalf. It is also our duty to defend and preserve our rights from any infiltrators within our Govt...seeking to reduce our rights and have subjugation over us all. So when those who are selected, to represent us, misrepresent themselves and their intentions...it is up to us to defend what they swore under oath to defend, but repeatedly attempt to infringe upon instead. These very same infiltrators are now repeatedly saying they will only protect "their democracy"; a Mob Rules form of Govt w/o a constitution. Which we do not have. Ours is a republic with a constitution. So we have a domestic enemy problem.
@factsoftheconfederacy7151
@factsoftheconfederacy7151 6 ай бұрын
This guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about. The secession documents bring up slavery, but it was one of the reasons. Keep in mind there were Union slave states through the entire war! The Morrill Tariff act of 1861 passed and the Corwin Amendment was approved to be passed on March 2nd, 1861. The Corwin Amendment reads “No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give to Congress the power to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State” Abraham Lincoln approved of this amendment and rather have made more profit than freeing slaves. (Source: The Civil War Day by Day: An Almanac, 1861-1865 Book by Barbara Long and E. Long) Lincoln showed his support for the amendment and stated “Holding such a provision [the legality of slavery] to be implied constitutional law, I have no objection to its being made express and irrevocable” (Lincoln Unmasked: What You're Not Supposed to Know About Dishonest Abe. By Thomas J. Dilorenzo)
@nophlast4237
@nophlast4237 6 ай бұрын
I like how this is an attempted character assassination of a person desperately trying to get the union together by trying to find some form of middle ground. Meanwhile the confederacy (by their federal power) forced each confederate state to uphold slavery or be kicked out. (Not very anti government now is it?) It’s always the confidiots screeching about how “technically” some of the states didn’t explicitly say “we are succeeding because of slavery” despite each one mentioning it and/or taking on the title of a slave state in the documents they made. Making the statement As though that had little to no bearing on the reasoning the states left is some of the most disingenuous shit I’ve had the displeasure of hearing over and over and over again. TLDR: Shut up Confidiot
@nunyabusiness6691
@nunyabusiness6691 6 ай бұрын
This should be in one of those KZbin/Wikipedia fact checking boxes under the video.
@dustindodds2239
@dustindodds2239 6 ай бұрын
love these!!!!!
@tashacooper1753
@tashacooper1753 6 ай бұрын
I think about that with one of the best doctors of his time was only cause he was super tall and could hold you down
@vernonkuhns3561
@vernonkuhns3561 6 ай бұрын
Sorry, you need to redo the research and the major points. For instance, most of the states seceded. Lincoln attacked the Confederates. The rest of the states we see as the south THEN joined the Confederacy. How can you say those states who didn't secede until Lincoln attacked fought primarily because of slavery?? Too pat. Too simple. It ain't like that.
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 5 ай бұрын
You're ignoring 2 things: A. Lincoln didn't "attack" yet, he called for 75,000 90-day volunteers. B. Lincoln did this in response to the State of South Carolina attacking U.S. Army troops at Fort Sumter, the first shots of the war were fired by the Confederates. The war itself was started over slavery, as that was the reason the Lower South seceded. When talking of the causes and motivations of the Civil War, the aim of the Upper Southern States aren't as important because the war was already underway when they seceded. And it should be noted that in some of their ordinances of secession, they give slavery as a cause as well. I suggest you read all the ordinances.
@vernonkuhns3561
@vernonkuhns3561 5 ай бұрын
@@ZIEMOWITIUS Lincoln agreed to vacate all the Southern land occupied by the Federal troops. He vacated all but Fort Sumter which he then reinforced and triggered the attack. He then INVADED the south. As usual you Big Gubmint lovers don't know history. Slavery WAS States rights as the norther war mongers kept taking actions threatening southern states. Killing 3/4 of a million people was not necessary to end slavery. Ensuring states rights and time would have ended it as the industrial revolution was already well on its way to do that. Stop making excuses for the war lovers.
@andurrs3411
@andurrs3411 6 ай бұрын
this is a cute attempt !
@TheRealRomansThirteen
@TheRealRomansThirteen 6 ай бұрын
Very old video. I remember this.
@lbwhiteblack3907
@lbwhiteblack3907 6 ай бұрын
I know Steven has more than 5.76m subs.
@oaaooaooaao
@oaaooaooaao 6 ай бұрын
Nice view count bro😂
@scythefarraday
@scythefarraday 6 ай бұрын
This is the only Crowder video that I have hit the dislike button on...twice. Anyone who does a rudimentary amount of research will realize that Slavery was not the central issue of the war.
@stanleyshannon4408
@stanleyshannon4408 6 ай бұрын
Even if it were, blaming the South for having the very slaves the north sold to them is one of the most hypocritical reasons for a war in human history.
@sethjones5250
@sethjones5250 6 ай бұрын
Until 1863 that is
@stanleyshannon4408
@stanleyshannon4408 6 ай бұрын
@sethjones5250 of course, one wonders what Lincoln would have done at that point if Davis had simply said 'Fine, we will free all the slaves and ship them all back to you. Your move.'
@sethjones5250
@sethjones5250 6 ай бұрын
@@stanleyshannon4408 it might have been easier for England,France, Germany etc to recognize the CSA at that point if Davis had done exactly that. Certainly seems Ironic that in seceding the south essentially created the perfect abolitionist storm they were trying to escape from.
@stanleyshannon4408
@stanleyshannon4408 6 ай бұрын
@sethjones5250 I agree. However, I'm not saying they actually needed to free anyone. They just had to make a counter offer as hollow as Lincoln's proclamation was to expose his hypocrisy. If he accepts, his army mutinies, if he doesn't , European support collapses.
@pokeyrebel253
@pokeyrebel253 6 ай бұрын
Don't take this guy's word for it, read the ordinances of secession for yourself. Yes, slavery is mentioned in some--not all--of the articles, but it is one of a few issues that are brought up. It is debatable whether it was the central issue or not. I'm not taking a position on this, I'm just trying to encourage people to study it for themselves.
@drewbarkley3690
@drewbarkley3690 6 ай бұрын
Just like every other war it was due to high tariffs and other economic issues, Lincoln used to the phrase “save the union” which really meant “to keep intact his economic and territorial monopolies”
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 6 ай бұрын
In all the ordinances where it is mentioned, it is either the only cause listed, or the primary cause listed. And it should be noted that in some of the ordinances that don't mention it, don't mention any reason for secession. Florida's, for example, only declares their secession, it gives no reason for them doing so.
@syncue5411
@syncue5411 6 ай бұрын
The north sold and profited the most off the slave trade & the agricultural industry it fueled. The New Englanders were overwhelmingly the ones transporting & selling the slaves to the south. Lincoln said in his inaugural address “I declare that I have no intention, directly or indirectly, to interfere with slavery in the states where it exits.” Lee & many others freed their slaves when the war began & declared it as a “moral & political evil.” The reason it was included in the confederate constitution was only to keep the status quo until the northern invasion ended. Brutal but this was a war. The only reason Lincoln declared the emancipation proclamation was for military purposes. Slavery is evil, no one is saying it was ok. It definitely would have ended without war, most likely within a generation. The abolishments came to the south & stirred things up to such an extent that their actions unfortunately extended the natural progression of slavery already coming to an end. Yes to an extent slavery was an issue in the American civil war but was definitely not the reason for it. Too much nuance to make that claim.
@Zetact_
@Zetact_ 6 ай бұрын
Don't forget that the emancipation proclamation didn't free a single slave and at the time it was declared did not free a southern slave, either. Even Lincoln's own Secretary of State William H. Seward, in spite of his potential to get persecuted for daring to criticize Lincoln pointed out how hypocritical it was. "We show our sympathy with slavery by emancipating slaves where we cannot reach them and holding them in bondage where we can set them free."
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 6 ай бұрын
The slave trade ended many decades before the Civil War began. You're using ancient history to attempt to justify Southern slavery and secession. As for the main reason of the war, it was slavery. In South Carolina's (the first state to secede) declaration of independence from the United States, they mentioned no issue other than slavery.
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 5 ай бұрын
The Confederate Constitution prevented any state within the Confederacy from abolishing slavery. What justification do you have that this was "temporary?" It's surrounded by other things that clearly weren't meant to be temporary.
@perrottarober
@perrottarober 6 ай бұрын
Crazy how smart this guy seems in so far as civil war knowledge then perpetuates a totally debunked myth about biting bullets.
@OneSquaredG
@OneSquaredG 4 ай бұрын
Do tell?
@RahDreamz89
@RahDreamz89 6 ай бұрын
I dare you to debate Sam Sorden Mr. Crowder. Grow some balls. 🎉
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 6 ай бұрын
Who?
@brandon_21ea
@brandon_21ea 4 ай бұрын
Leave the world behind
@bellfefe
@bellfefe 6 ай бұрын
And this is why they did not want the constitution taught in school because we would have known the truth
@jacobweaver6625
@jacobweaver6625 6 ай бұрын
No more live content?
@Usmc86
@Usmc86 3 ай бұрын
Lincoln was forced into the imancipation proclamation by cacious clay
@josiahtheobald689
@josiahtheobald689 6 ай бұрын
Half truths an lies
@stanleyshannon4408
@stanleyshannon4408 6 ай бұрын
Slavery had legal standing, it should have been settled legally not by an armed invasion.
@The-Almighty-Whitey
@The-Almighty-Whitey 6 ай бұрын
It wasn't about slavery this dude is wrong, they put that in their speeches and documents because they needed funding from the rich plantation owners
@radicalindividual7774
@radicalindividual7774 6 ай бұрын
The only people left, were Northern farm owners being starved to death by Northern Taxes, with assistance of Northern Owned Slaves, shipped by Northern Slave Ship Religion, Sold by the North, and sent South to farm Northern Owned Land. Then, selling the South's 80% Tobacco Production and Exports, and keeping 80% of the Finance.
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 6 ай бұрын
Dude, the rich plantation owners were the ones writing these ordinances and speeches.
@The-Almighty-Whitey
@The-Almighty-Whitey 5 ай бұрын
@@ZIEMOWITIUS yes exactly
@Luke23453
@Luke23453 4 ай бұрын
@@The-Almighty-Whitey So... you admit that they succeeded to preserve slavery then?
@fathersandMan
@fathersandMan 6 ай бұрын
What is the race of Thomas Matthew Cooks?
@fathersandMan
@fathersandMan 6 ай бұрын
He's a registered Republican right?
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 6 ай бұрын
@@fathersandMan Which means nothing in PA because you can't vote in primaries without being registered for the that primary's party. It's not unusual in PA for peoples' registration to not match what they actually support, so they can vote in the other side's primary.
@kenthegreat5782
@kenthegreat5782 6 ай бұрын
Say when you voiced Alan Powers on Arthur, what did you really say on that "Knitters" episode? 👀
@HankHammer-cp5px
@HankHammer-cp5px 6 ай бұрын
It wasn't about slavery, that's the winners writing history so they look like heroes, instead of awful oppressors, which they were.
@nophlast4237
@nophlast4237 6 ай бұрын
That’s an interesting idea, what were the core issues the confederacy were fighting for again?
@9doggie12
@9doggie12 6 ай бұрын
Succession documents lol literally said it
@vetamotesable
@vetamotesable 6 ай бұрын
States rights to what?
@nophlast4237
@nophlast4237 6 ай бұрын
@@9doggie12 blud didn’t even watch to 3:00 into the video to see this 😂
@ZorenToo
@ZorenToo 6 ай бұрын
As a Southerner I always believed that the primary issue was State's vs Federal rights. I can concede that it includes the "right" to own slaves as emphasized by the succession documents. But I'm glad he said the slave states admitted it would transition to an end in the years to come.
@Redeemedentertainment
@Redeemedentertainment 6 ай бұрын
9:40 Naismith was Presbyterian not Mormon lol
@3JM-oy5
@3JM-oy5 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely love Mr Barton’s work!!!
@GrowLLLTigeRRR
@GrowLLLTigeRRR 6 ай бұрын
Why then did slavery persist in the Northern States after the Emancipation Proclamation ended it in the Southern States? Why did Lincoln only insinuate slavery as an issue when France and England were about to aid the Confederacy? I could go on and on but I don't think it would do much good. Get that Yankee "historian" outta here.
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 6 ай бұрын
Because Lincoln was not a tyrant who could unilaterally seize property from people who weren't in open rebellion against the United States. The entire justification of the Emancipation Proclamation was that slaves in the South could be seized because they help the Southern war effort (indeed, the South began drafting slaves for labor before they began accepted volunteers for the army, slavery was so critical to their economy). It's quite ironic that the Democratic Party worshippers who call Lincoln a tyrant give as justification examples of Lincoln going out of his way to follow the law as closely as he could (which is arguably difficult considering the Constitution gives no guidance on what to do in internal conflicts of that magnitude).
@deminybs
@deminybs 6 ай бұрын
"live show Monday through Friday"..... good thing I never joined mug club when what they say doesn't match what they do
@drewg809
@drewg809 6 ай бұрын
I’d love to better understand the rebel flag! I know it has a lot of controversy. It was just glossed over in this video.
@Bigsky1991
@Bigsky1991 6 ай бұрын
There were several...and they all have distinct meaning.
@hensonsf2701
@hensonsf2701 6 ай бұрын
I see no fault in this video. No fault at all. No worries for any fault here!
@stanleyshannon4408
@stanleyshannon4408 6 ай бұрын
You should have Brion McClanahan on to explain that history.
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 6 ай бұрын
You should actually read a historical document.
@stanleyshannon4408
@stanleyshannon4408 6 ай бұрын
@@ZIEMOWITIUS I've read many. Including those involving my own ancestry. Far more than u, I would imagine. But then, I don't just get mine off of leftist web sites. That is why I know the truth.
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 6 ай бұрын
@@stanleyshannon4408 Then I suggest you read the ordinances of secession outlining the Southern justification for secession. The Cornerstone Speech as well. Slavery is the most common reoccurring theme found in Southern documents pertaining to their desire to secede.
@stanleyshannon4408
@stanleyshannon4408 6 ай бұрын
@@ZIEMOWITIUS What 'cornerstone' speech? As to the secession documents, I have read them and find them to be remarkable expressions of unassailable legal logic.
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 6 ай бұрын
@@stanleyshannon4408 Do you deny they outline slavery as their primary motivation? The Cornerstone Speech was a speech made by Confederate Vice President Alexander H. Stephens outlining Confederate reason for their "revolution." Here is a quote from it: "The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution." As for the legal logic, it is quite lacking because the Constitution gives no mention of whether a State can or cannot secede from the Union. It is mute on the issue.
@johnparker4484
@johnparker4484 6 ай бұрын
Taking the whole summer off again, Steven?
@lesley5914
@lesley5914 6 ай бұрын
At time stamp 8:35 it looks like Michael Richards from Seinfeld fame. It is funny because he is in black face due to the negative. Michael Richards is known for yelling at hecklers and saying the “n” word.
@Crystal-iy4si
@Crystal-iy4si 6 ай бұрын
Was about slavery, but slavery wasnt the only cause. There is never a simplified reason when it comes to war. The civil war was no different.
@nunyabusiness6691
@nunyabusiness6691 6 ай бұрын
It was more about money, taxation/sanctions, and representation which is what most wars are fought over.
@HoTrEtArDeDcHiXx
@HoTrEtArDeDcHiXx 6 ай бұрын
Alex Jones’s successor 😮
@joejuneman1460
@joejuneman1460 6 ай бұрын
Five years ago? Wasn't this released... maybe two years ago?
@maggieprice-g2j
@maggieprice-g2j 6 ай бұрын
I was wondering that
@TonyfromTO
@TonyfromTO 6 ай бұрын
Good eye pointing out abraham Lincoln looks ethnic, a lot of historical figures may have surprising backgrounds we arent aware of. Humans really moved around.
@stanleyshannon4408
@stanleyshannon4408 6 ай бұрын
Lincoln's ancestry is well known. Nothing ethnic about it.
@jamesmurphy8968
@jamesmurphy8968 6 ай бұрын
Appreciate the effort but it's well documented that while slavery was a issue it wasn't thee issue
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 6 ай бұрын
The first state to secede was South Carolina, and in their ordinance for secession they make no mention of any issue other than slavery as their reason for doing so.
@MrNtlman
@MrNtlman 6 ай бұрын
If we aren’t in one already I’m a monkey
@kendoWTL
@kendoWTL 6 ай бұрын
The platforming of this charlatan is very disappointing. Barton is a guy that has made up sources that don't exist, takes things out of context, and is driven by his ideology and desire to profit. There is a reason he doesn't have a university affiliation: A) his terminal degree is a B.A. and B) His so-called scholarship is a dangerous joke. That said, if you are a fundamentalist who is desperately looking for validation for your beliefs in the past, he's your man.
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 6 ай бұрын
What has he mentioned that doesn't exist? The Southern speeches and ordinances he talks about certainly do, I've read some of them myself.
@alericc1889
@alericc1889 6 ай бұрын
AND THEY JUST TRIED TO ASSINATE TRUMP.....................and the GOP is saying to IGNORE IT.........
@factsoftheconfederacy7151
@factsoftheconfederacy7151 6 ай бұрын
I can go further. The individual states could abolish slavery, but the confederate congress couldn’t touch it. This guy is either a liar or he’s ignorant. The CSA Constitution treated slavery exactly the same as the US Constitution.
@hudini2356
@hudini2356 6 ай бұрын
You should provide a source before calling someone a liar.
@factsoftheconfederacy7151
@factsoftheconfederacy7151 6 ай бұрын
@@hudini2356 I literally gave you my sources. The US and Confederate constitution. Sec. 9.4 of the CSA Constitution is a list of checks on congressional power, similar to its U.S. counterpart. The section only forbade Congress from banning slavery - not the states. This position was consistent with pre-1865 U.S. attitudes, including that of Abraham Lincoln, who in 1861 argued that slavery was up to the states.
@TheGreyGhost_of43rd
@TheGreyGhost_of43rd 6 ай бұрын
Maybe he should read some soldiers journals, the men DAMN sure didn't fight for slaves they didn't have. They fought to save their country.
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 6 ай бұрын
I've read many letters from Southern soldiers. Many who didn't own slaves still talked about slavery. Many poor whites in the South still said they fought for slavery because if the slaves were freed, they'd have to compete with them for jobs. The Southern governments did a propaganda campaign telling them that, that keeping the slaves on the plantations was a guarantee that the slaves wouldn't "steal their jobs."
@SlydogFPS
@SlydogFPS 6 ай бұрын
WuZuP?
@TomNo0k
@TomNo0k 6 ай бұрын
First
@leninmercedes6567
@leninmercedes6567 6 ай бұрын
@Texan190
@Texan190 6 ай бұрын
4:36 BS. Slavery itself wasn't the reason. If it was, slaves would have been freed much sooner.
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 6 ай бұрын
Read the Southern documents declaring their intent to secede and their reasons for doing so. Many of them mention slavery as the primary cause, some list slavery as the only cause.
@Texan190
@Texan190 6 ай бұрын
@@ZIEMOWITIUS yea, no that's not it.
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 6 ай бұрын
@@Texan190 That's exactly it. Read South Carolina's ordinance, it is perhaps the most important because South Carolina was the first state to secede, and thus was the first ordinance written. It mentions no issue other than slavery as their cause for secession.
@Texan190
@Texan190 6 ай бұрын
@POCKET-SAND because of economic reason, and not to be forced to be crippled by the federal govt.
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 6 ай бұрын
@@Texan190 Slavery is explicitly mentioned many times in South Carolina's ordinance. Perhaps you would like this quote from it: "The right of property in slaves was recognized by giving to free persons distinct political rights, by giving them the right to represent, and burthening them with direct taxes for three-fifths of their slaves; by authorizing the importation of slaves for twenty years; and by stipulating for the rendition of fugitives from labor . . . [t]hose States [the Northern States] have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection." Besides, the Southern economy was heavily tied to slavery, which means that any economic argument regarding the South inevitably finds its way back to slavery, not that this is relevant in the case of South Carolina's ordinance, which makes no mention is any issue not relating to slavery.
@DebbieOnTheSpot
@DebbieOnTheSpot 6 ай бұрын
Our closest ene my is the cops. They think the civil war has already started and its them vs US
@shellyvonschtupp8618
@shellyvonschtupp8618 6 ай бұрын
@@DebbieOnTheSpot Debbie on the crackpipe.
@DebbieOnTheSpot
@DebbieOnTheSpot 6 ай бұрын
@@shellyvonschtupp8618 unable to attack my statement, you attack me.. you have already been defeated.
@shellyvonschtupp8618
@shellyvonschtupp8618 6 ай бұрын
@@DebbieOnTheSpot lol. You have no argument. Everywhere and I mean EVERYWHERE law enforcement has been decimated, it has been a complete disaster. The problem with you and people like you isn’t that you don’t need police- you don’t deserve police. Your policies and behavior don’t belong in decent society. You should be separated from the rest of us and left to fend for yourselves.
@shellyvonschtupp8618
@shellyvonschtupp8618 6 ай бұрын
And that mess of half words you tried to cobble together barely qualifies as a statement.
@DebbieOnTheSpot
@DebbieOnTheSpot 6 ай бұрын
@@shellyvonschtupp8618 it's not easy spreading truth on Joutube, fellow earthling.
@darkminstrel2041
@darkminstrel2041 6 ай бұрын
The podcasts are NOT propagating to Podbean or PocketCasts. Again.
@carlosmachado6921
@carlosmachado6921 6 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@gutsbiker
@gutsbiker 6 ай бұрын
When I was in school 55 years ago, We were taught the civil war was mostly about trade and state rights, and that ending slavery was important, but not the main cause of the war. Thank you for the clarification.
@theoldblood3804
@theoldblood3804 6 ай бұрын
Aren't you Canadian
@HavingCoffieWithMrSatan
@HavingCoffieWithMrSatan 6 ай бұрын
Mr Satan said the REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE❤
@mike210294
@mike210294 6 ай бұрын
rereleasing videos you have already done well being on vacation seems really lazy
@bellfefe
@bellfefe 6 ай бұрын
Yeah. Then look what happened in 1871... act of 1871
@chanzig1138
@chanzig1138 6 ай бұрын
Freed the slaves, and what did they do? Look at Chicago.
@fathersandMan
@fathersandMan 6 ай бұрын
Look at Thomas Cooks.
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 5 ай бұрын
@@fathersandMan That's a leftist problem not a race problem.
@ashentmariner
@ashentmariner 6 ай бұрын
Civility (civylite) Middle English The Art of government (civilis) Our state of Being Civilized: ~ )_@m ~ ~ Noah's Ark ❤️ Polite ☮️
@jimd8008
@jimd8008 6 ай бұрын
Didn’t ole Storm have a child with a black woman?
@darthmorgoththesecond9990
@darthmorgoththesecond9990 6 ай бұрын
I Wouldn’t let the Government and inside and out side groups too get there way in this Kinetic Civil War
@geoffchurchill5492
@geoffchurchill5492 6 ай бұрын
Pro Slavery?
@christiansmith-of7dt
@christiansmith-of7dt 6 ай бұрын
Its weird
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