The Coming of White Raven

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[@puckmugwort3954]

"sometimes humans tend to just think about to things in similar ways!" Yeah Carl Jung specifically wrote extensively about that lmao

[@NordicAnimism]

He certainly did - But in contemporary scholarship you won't find many Jung fans.

[@ravenestrella2310]

@@NordicAnimism Really? That’s surprising! I’m a huge Jung fan myself, and know tons of others who are as well. To hear that he’s fallen out of favor with contemporary scholars is startling to hear! I thought he was still quite well loved!

[@polymorfik]

Jungs work wether people acknowledge or not is integral to our current understanding of subconscious and cognitive studies. And any “Intelligent” person will continue to see connections and truths over differences and lies. Even though over-all most people are quick to point out what’s different, and who is lying, who’s wrong…

[@evabekesi8263]

@@ravenestrella2310 true, all of my younger friends who study psychology love Jung a lot. Perhaps this is also a good sign.

[@autumngrace8541]

Carl Jung is a tool for the masses.

[@ravenestrella2310]

Thank you for this awesome discussion of the white raven and his symbolic meaning! It’s strange, but while I’ve never had the privilege of seeing one IRL, the white raven as this very archetypal, mythical motif is one that’s come to me, over and over again, ever since a very strange spiritual encounter I had with Crow (who himself holds deeply spiritual, ancestral connections for me), right around the time I became Heathen, now a good many years ago. However, I never knew what to make of this constant reappearance of the white raven upon my spiritual journey. Your discussion of what he means spiritually helped shed a great deal of light on this matter for me, and is very much appreciated! Thank you! Best of luck to you in your own creative, spiritual work with Raven!

[@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger]

Hopefully you know of Wardruna's music and their Kvitravn song/video! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJnMhpSZfN98nZo

[@epiphanyx3705]

Raven calling to me so strong lately.

[@epiphanyx3705]

What synchronicity, I cant stop thinking about Ravens lately. they are messengers ❤ The native American call us 'younger brother'. Man seems to perceive back to front &:upside.

[@GMc-iw2fy]

I've been drawing ravens and crows and kookaburras...., serendipity

[@alentjes]

The White Raven as an Earth-shaking event that nobody saw coming is also called a Black Swan, or the return of the Dragon King. For me, the image in visions of dramatic change in ways we could not imagine or foresee is that of a dragon. And indeed, it is GuanYi riding the dragon to reset the Earth in ancient Chinese lore, protecting the sanctity of life and removing those who do not honour this sanctity and abuse nature or kill their brothers and sisters.

[@jihangearon]

I dreamt of a white raven last night and landed on your video. I appreciate your teaching. Ahehee'. Also, I am Dine’ and often role my eyes when people say "native american" stories, myths, teachings, etc. because "native american" is a made up generalization and we are hundreds of peoples connected to many different lands. Ahehee' for doing your work and naming the actual tribes these stories come from.

[@raymaine2931]

Past few days have seen a white Raven, definitely not a crow, frustrating never have my phone

[@erikhoff5010]

Thank You! Very insightful and informative. Skal

[@dustinpeters5082]

I am the white raven, I am the moon; literally.

[@irishelinac]

Thank you, so interesting ! The white raven is also in Greek mythology, he was the "eye" of Apollo to see the world and come back to inform him. One day he saw the lover of Apollo cheating on him and came back but said nothing. When the god realized the raven didn't told him, in punishment he turned his feathers in black. That's as you said about the broken relationship (twice in this myth, as ancient Greeks always did - evoking twice the main concept). Raven are very clever social animals and close to humans as well, even though they can eat their deads. I had a dream about a big white raven landing on my arm, it was years ago but it meant a lot to me and now, thanks to you, I clearly understand his symbolic :)

[@dallassegno]

links?

[@irishelinac]

@@dallassegno the link is a book about mythology you go buy at the library. Help yourself.

[@danielazc2757]

I've had a dream of a white raven

[@valeriy8502]

Garmarna and Hedningarna were the soundtrack of my teens 😍

[@shadowfiresociety]

Same here!

[@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger]

And Wardruna and Heilung today!?!?

[@valeriy8502]

@@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger It's still Hedningarna and Garmarna 😄 I like a few songs by Heilung and Wardruna, Einar's solo music with the lyre is more my style.

[@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger]

@@valeriy8502 Do you listen to Gealdyr? He has Einar's voice but his music is softer IMO. He is an amazing singer. I'll try to think of others for you based on what you said you prefer. I have a list of over 100 artists who are neofolk Germanic/Norse Heathen and who only use traditional instruments, so no heavy metal guitars or keyboards or anything modern.

[@valeriy8502]

@@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger Oh I like metal 😄 Even Hedningarna is on the heavy side for folk music. It definitely doesn't need to be soft music.

[@fateape7501]

I love the way you pronounce the nordic language

[@eaenki449]

I'm surprised you didn't mention the parallel to Prometheus, I think that's the most obvious one. I made the connection between Prometheus and the white raven as the harbinger of the New Age, the Aquarian Age - something which we may see in our lifetime. Also, do you know about the raven paradox/Hempel's paradox? The white raven signifies something impossible, or at least what the western intellectual mind deems to be impossible, but now all sorts of "impossible" things are being revealed to us such as in quantum physics, and the limits of modern society and our thinking and lifestyle is deconstructed.

[@Rossion64]

#Ea Enki Yes, Prometheus- but also Inanna taking the 'Me' from you! 😁

[@eaenki449]

​@@Rossion64 Yes this is also a good one, especially since celebrating Inanna/Ishtar was the OG easter (?), a rebirth of life and identity. She also journeys to the underworld, like a white raven that becomes black.

[@stuart6478]

there's two in the area i live in

[@Sheepdog1314]

actually, in US Northwest Coast Mythology, Raven STEALS the sun by means of turning into a pine needle, floating on the water where a young woman was drinking - she ingested him, and became pregnant - she gave pregnant to a boy who actually was Raven...one day when no one was looking, he turned into Raven and opened the treasure box of the household, which was not allowed, and the moon escaped...he was punished, but he did it again, this time he took the sun, and the world was plunged into darkness....Raven in NWCoast and Alaskan stories is considered a "trickster"...but no mention of a "white" raven

[@NordicAnimism]

There are different myths in different groups. Raven being white is certainly a motif

[@melissaklemm9976]

I have one that comes..has white feathers on each side. Only white can been seen if she spreads her wings. She is beautiful. Never seen one like it before

[@merlin6140]

Ka-kaaah! Great Vid

[@metamutualguruist65]

I was visited by a man sized raven in a dream. in the dream i had been living in a log cabin and was trying to befriend a crow. I left food out for it and waited for it by the doorway of the cabin, it came and ate, i told it i would be back this time tomorrow. I went and lied down on a bed or cot in the cabin and a man sized raven came in, it started dancing and oddly cawing, rocking its head back and forth to eye me alternating with each of its eyes. i remember being fearful at first then trying to understand what it was trying to say as it was not violent. the last memory i can conjure was thinking it was trying to beatbox, then beatboxing with it but being unsatisified with my own performance, letting the raven take the lead, i danced with it as it made its way from what now seemed more of a hut or yurt, with a great fire in the center. as it left i felt sad that i had felt scared of it and wondered if it had picked up on my negative perception and if i had ushered it off. typing this out i now remember one more thing, i was supposed to return to my dream at the same time to commune with my crow friend and see if i could apologize to the giant hiphop raven.

[@K_E_Robin]

Hi Rune! I'm just recently started watching your videos after I've heard about you by a friend of mine and I've listened your animist perspectives through his podcast. I have a question for you that I think you could lend a new insight for me: Has jackdaws ever being referenced in any spiritual, animist or religious context? I know most people talk about ravens or crows in myths and spirituality, but never heard of other corvids like jackdaws being mentioned. Not what I've found on my own. Why I'm interested in the topic is because I have very personal and spirtiual relationship to jackdaws. To me, they're the most sacred of animals in my life. When I'm in the prescence of just a single jackdaw, it feels more like I'm meeting a person than with an animal(even though all animals are people). There is a connectedness that I feel when I look into a jackdaw's clear blue-grey eyes.

[@suebrokke2220]

I woke today at 444 seeing a white raven in my mind's eye. Listened to Wardruna upon finding their song White Raven...found out they are Norwegian..as am I...now I found you! What an amazing morning!!!

[@suebrokke2220]

I am artist..lol!! The world is about to flip from dark to light..this appearance of the White raven is confirmation!! Cannot wait to paint them!!!

[@balwindergill7041]

Yo the stories all line up since they are all true. Thank you Dear Lord Jesus 🌹🌹❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@Raiden_Ei_Narukami_Ogosho]

So close.... Yet so far away. Keep learning, you're only a quarter way to the truth.

[@melissaklemm9976]

Heals the reeper indeed

[@grimgonz0407]

It's funny you're talking about different people independently conjuring up similar ideas. The reason I initially clicked on this video was because I'm writing a novel in which white ravens appear as a motif. After doing some rudimentary googling, it turns out I'd probably be accused of copying George RR Martin if I kept going on with the idea, even though I've never read A Song of Ice and Fire books lol, nor have I seen much of the show. Experiences have happened like this to me multiple times throughout the outlining and drafting process, and I'm having to balance not accidentally copying someone else while still staying true to the themes, story, and world-building I find compelling.

[@michaelcostello3460]

I feel like I had a dream one of those flew in my window and I woke up

[@evabekesi8263]

Rune, your content is really inspiring on Patreon, thanks for your undertaking X.x It's like a cosmogonic continuation of Ymir's myth, which was creation. The bird is surely a frequent fatechanging symbol. In an Akkadian story, the Zú bird (Anzu / Imdugud) steals the tablets of fate so that he can control the fate of everything. In Rg-veda IV.18-27, Indra recovers soma (drink of immortality) for mankind on the back of an eagle. As for the Inuit version of the white raven - due to Spencer Well's genetic research (and Beringia), I can't let go of the direct connection with Indo-European myths, (but this could just as well be diffusionism). It was exciting to hear about the Mansi parallel (I'm Hungarian with Ukrainian roots). A film about the folk traditions of the Mari people: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWOthHtmo8Rjb68

[@pauladee6937]

Yes Rune, thanks. So the story of Raven and the Ark is written in Modern KJV of Bible. Its funny, Raven is left out of the Ark story in believers minds, yet their told myth of the evil black Raven. Great example of people taught' believing' and don't really read it! Als, Native Americans all have beautiful stories/ depictions on Raven!

[@wiccanmoon0001]

Hi there, I had a dream about a white Raven. I painted them on walls, and from that paint it somehow turned into their food. I woke up say white raven. I’d love to know what it means.

[@jrsgarage7623]

I have a white raven on my left hand . my veins outline it completely and a tiny mole is its eye. I'm full blooded sami Finn..

[@erikandersson1668]

Jag uppskattar verkligen din tagning på hedendom.

[@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger]

You mention muncie people from Siberia. I used to live in Muncy, Pennsylvania, USA, (I live about 5 miles from Muncy now) named after the Munsee tribe of Native Americans. The youtube closed caption spelled your word as "Muncie." Not sure what the correct spelling is. And also not sure of the connection between the Siberian tribe and the Pennsylvania tribe who is now in Ohio and Canada.

[@noahtheshipbuilder]

There is also a Muncie, Indiana!

[@thelonelyarrikirri4575]

He’s saying it wierd but they’re the mansi people

[@chaosxchrisx9461]

Yo the stories all line up since they are all true.

[@MorgannBjoerkekraake]

Thanks again for this series! I like this Inuit version about how the white raven became black. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aanLiIqafNJrnKc

[@davidward9927]

I just like you to know i am the white raven im the light of the world

[@dallassegno]

i debunked your white reaven theory. supposedly a white raven helps elijah but the white raven on the arc is not verifiable

[@NordicAnimism]

The Abrahamic myth of white raven in the Arc is not from the original Bible. It is from an early Arabic transtation of the Bible, and it is hinted at in Talmudic-Midrashic literature, where Raven is said to be black because he did not return to Noah. Check this article: - Return of the White Raven: Postdiluvial Reconnaissance Motif A2234.1.1 Reconsidered - ANDREY KOROTAYEV YURI BEREZKIN ARTEM KozMIN ALEXANDRA ARKHIPOVA

[@pauladee6937]

Yes Rune, thank you. So the story of Raven and the Ark is in the Modern KJV of Bible. Its funny, Raven is left out of the Ark story in believers minds, yet carry on because they've told myth of the evil black Raven and a great example of people taught how people don't really read it! Also Native Americans all have beautiful stories/ depictions on Raven!

[@pauladee6937]

How debunk? The Bible specifically says Raven is associated with the Ark... so how Debunked? Before the White/Black Raven bring Elijah food, in KJV, 1st Kings.

[@pauladee6937]

​@@NordicAnimism Rune. I replied to you comments